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PR and astroturfing on Twitter and other social media, i.e. why we need "social journalism": http://www.jsonline.com/watchdo...
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"what might look to consumers researching BPA on the Internet as independent information are often stories written by chemical industry."
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The document I've been reporting on: "Protect, Point, Pay — An Associated Press Plan for Reclaiming News Online" http://www.niemanlab.org/2009...
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@sivavaid The real fun in free comes if/when mesh networks make access almost free - and open, competing with ISPs.
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@jeffjarvis I'm just the wire service! Personally I'm with Lauren Rich Fine....
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@jiconoclast Use multi-string RSS news/blog searches, Google translate, and a decent reader (eg NetNewsWire) to build your own wire service.
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This paywall conversation is STILL going on. http://www.latimes.com/busines... For fucks sake, dead tree journalists, did you people just wake up?
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Citizen journalists will bring the what, while professionals bring the why | The Journalism Iconoclast - http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog...
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There is nominal value in news facts - value lies in the context. FT & Economist have this figured out.
- Bankwatch
Andrew Keen: Why give unwired people broadband access "when millions of them will be unemployed, disorientated and angry?" http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
Meryn Stol, Richard ¿digame? Walker, ~C4Chaos and 8 other people liked this
If we attend to basic human needs first, then we won't have to worry about the empowerment of unemployed millions and their susceptibility to the persuasive powers of would-be demagogues, or the organizing potential of the internet. http://www.politicalbase.com/profile...
- Vince Williams
from twhirl
There are two phases of this. First they get online and find conformation of the idiotic or crackpot theories they already believe, but then slowly they get exposed to the larger community, and reality slowly seeps in. Things get worse before they get better, but they do get better. I hope.
- Mr. Gunn
The problem is that it's too difficult to take Keen seriously. I have to get past that part
- Deepak Singh
No, it's that we have to take The Guardian seriously, and they are the ones who quoted Keen to meet their "gotta have a skeptic" needs. So what they are really doing is putting their needs for the appearance of innocence ahead of the readers' need not listen to trolls, opportunists, charlatans and the like.
- Jay Rosen
Andrew "Cult of the Amateur" Keen really is the poster child of the charlatan group he supposedly rallies against and the fact that the Guardian would cite him is proof that the 'professional' media is increasingly off track.
- David HC Soul
Jay, thankfully they chose Keen. Most people familiar with him--or familiar enough to find his bio on Wikipedia--know he's a crackpot. If this is all the criticism Guardian could scare up, I think it's a sound proposal. Or, Guardian is just showing us how lazily they report.
- Zac Echola
The Guardian's Bobbie Johnson on Twitter: "Watching people pick apart Andrew Keen after I republished the basics of his latest odd polemic in my Obama CTO article." http://is.gd/evDz
- Jay Rosen
Well Bobbie, perhaps you're having trouble getting the message: almost everyone is roasting you at the same time; some implied others direct, but roasting you.
- David HC Soul
Bobbie Johnson replied on Twitter as follows: "I've no need to show scepticism, but bad arguments deserve context just as much as good ideas do (perhaps even more so)." and "Keen still gets read, even if not by us. There's a fine line between disengaging and letting wrongness propagate." http://is.gd/ezcI and http://is.gd/ezcG
- Jay Rosen
Link in Guardian article related to quote: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
I don't care about AK and I am quite aware of troll logic. I do care about what The Guardian thinks its doing by quoting an anti-democratic voice in an article about extending the benefits of the Internet to poor people, uneducated people, rural people. If you think an anti-democratic voice has to be part of the discussion, at least make an argument for it. "I found a skeptic! I found a skeptic!" is not an argument. Neither is: "some people read him and agree with him."
- Jay Rosen
I really don't know any more about Bobbie Johnson than this one article and his weak as gnat's piss justification for running it with the Keen quote - but from having read Keen's book and many of his blog postings it is evident that Johnson's rationale is exactly the stuff Keen accuses ALL "non professional" internet users of doing. So now Johnson, and thus the Guardian, have become part of the problem - all by playing to Keen's rules of engagement.
- David HC Soul
More from Bobbie Johnson via Twitter: " *sigh* no agenda, not from the school of objectivity. Seriously think I'd pose Keen as a viable counterpoint to Cerf + Evslin?" http://is.gd/eBjG My reply: "Agenda? Who said you had an agenda? I said you were showing off how agendaless you can be. Answer to your second Q: yes, I do." To which Bobbie Johnson said, "Pretending not to have an agenda *is* an agenda in itself. And point 2, you're way off base... my intention was the inverse."
- Jay Rosen
Who isn't a social media strategist? - http://www.socialmedia.biz/2009...
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I HATE that everyone on the internet is a social media strategist.
- David Cohn
It doesn't even mean anything. Sign up for twitter! Sign up for Facebook! Start a blog! Post to everything!
- Zac Echola
There's a good comment on this post, too: "If you’re going to call yourself a SOCIAL media marketing expert, you’d better have a pretty good handle on understanding how people BEHAVE in social environments. Indeed, you should be able to PREDICT with some accuracy how they’ll behave in response to a campaign, Web property, interactive tool, etc. on the social Web."
- Zac Echola
@ruskin147 If in US, get a cheap pay-as-you-go phone. Forward your UK phone to Skype in and Skype Out to your US phone.
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Failure to link to original sources should be seen as failure of practice of journalism generally, not just online. http://blog.news-record.com/staff...
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Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo will now have a full-time reporter on Capitol Hill and at the White House. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archive...
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TPM is usually much more interesting than the New York Times and Washington Post these days. Ditto for Huffington Post. Thank God for all the intellectual fresh air and new blood.
- Sean McBride
Twitter is not one of those things kids used, then adults; it's one of those things geeks used, then real people - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I spend so much time talking to normal folks HERE IN SILICON VALLEY and it's all the same. Lines range from 'why would I want to do that?' to 'Sounds boring' or using pre-existing methods that work fine. Same with gadgets. You know how often I hear the notion that the iPhone appears hard to use? It's funny.
- Eric Rice
Not enough real people yet though, a lot of them are merely geeks in disguise.
- Prokofy Neva
my sister is an NYU student and only uses flickr when I force her. She knows nothing of twitter.
- Jason Toney
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