can't wait until there is a ff comments plug in for Blogger. Would love to have every blog post I write incorporate the comments from FF.
- Thomas Hawk
Add your $$ to the bounty, Thomas. I put $250 on the table. It's small, but it's a start. Who wants to add on?
- Louis Gray
Yeah, I'd throw in $100 if it worked well and looked good on my blog.
- Thomas Hawk
Well hopefully someone takes up the offer by you and Louis
- Shey
Excellent post. I am a big fan of Marshall McLuhan's work. BTW, I tried to post on your blog to FF but it asked for my api. Where do I find that?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
"The Volkswagen Microbus is a classic - even to those of us born after its time. Arguably unlike the newly remade Beetle, this remake of a VW classic is remarkably true to the original on the outside - but on the inside it is a bio-diesel hybrid stuffed full of high tech gadgetry and eco-friendly innovations."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Very intriguing. How much steel is in that thing? Chris, that would be my next question after fuel consumption: how safe is this thing? And I agree, when we can go back to making transportation that costs less than a small home, we may have achieved something amazing. ;)
- Melanie Reed
However, I have heard (and I'm not remembering where at the moment) that there has been a movement growing of people seeking alternative housing and substituting things like this as the new "mobile" home.
- Melanie Reed
Everyone is loving this! We should have an FF one and use it to travel to all the FFers around the World (like Pea seems to be doing ;-)). Hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I've owned 5 VWs, two of which were split window vans. I'd love to have another, this is awesome!
- Rick Bucich
from twhirl
I have had more VWs than other cars...starting with a 71 Superbeetle, and a Split Window Microbus. I would LOVE to have something like this.
- Kreg Steppe
Good for grandparents to visit grandchildren and children through the European continent (or another one as well)...nomadism-revival!
- Isabelle Ayel
wow i posted this a while back and now can't seem to find it for some reason. friendfeed's search function really sucks!
- Cee Bee
I'd like to have something like this, something small. What do you really need? A bed, perhaps a TV and room for your computer. Then you can live anywhere you like, in theory.
- Kol Tregaskes
Who is this Canadian designer Alexandre Verdier? Seems like he is on Facebook, Linked In but I can't seem to find anything else about him.
- Brian Sullivan
We had a wesvalia built Micro when I was a kid. I loved that thing. It was a little flimsily built; but boy it was perfect for my family of campers and road-tripping warriors. Too bad this one is so pricey
- Bill Rawlinson
Heavy pc and crt, ok, but the subwoofer too? You know how heavy those things are? This would work in space maybe.
- Josh Haley
And I wonder where it's getting powered from. Is there an extension cord behind him, or maybe he's got a generator attached to his feet?
- Costa Walcott
But which way would it point? Or should there be two, one aimed at his face, and one on the visor of his hat, to see what he can see?
- Ordinarybug Heather
It's a 'Trojan Horse'!! The hollowed out tower contains 8 Macbook Airs, 25 iPhones, a G1™[product placement by Google] and a handful of Newtons - just waiting to be deployed!
- Micah
There is a distinct lack of cup holder.
- Rochelle
True... where does the Mountain Dew go? Or coffee or Jolt Cola or whatever caffeinated substance he drinks?
- Ordinarybug Heather
Rochelle: thats what the CD Drive tray is for.
- Roberto Bonini
Now, now, Jeff. I mentioned in the article that I typically prefer native apps or Web apps to AIR apps, but this one is very interesting, at least to me. I dig it.
- Louis Gray
im just trying to be funny...hehe good post btw.
- (jeff)isageek
Wow, twhirlscope down -- gotta try this out
- Shey
ah! and I was wondering why my twitter vanity search hit on that topic as I do not like the air apps. but grouping actually would be a reason to try it out. problem: as long as twitter decimates the request rates it is unreliable, but a first step in the right direction. will download it now ;)
- Nicole Simon
Louis, I think you're right - there is still innovation happening around Twitter, fortunately. The fact is there is still a huge audience on Twitter and that audience still has the potential to be monetized. I'm even building something around Twitter at the moment. There is still that threat though, that developers could leave if Twitter keeps neglecting them - it's in the back of the mind
- Jesse Stay
"feels" like Twhirl. Wish it had FF support...if it does it wasn't obvious from the website. I agree with others that I'd really like to see these Adobe air apps with some better skins
- Rob Neville
from twhirl
"Now, now, Jeff. I mentioned in the article that I typically prefer native apps or Web apps to AIR apps, but this one is very interesting, at least to me." - That's part of why I like the platform so much. Most people like native apps but AIR apps are pretty easy to build so there's bound to be a few that people really like. (Ryan - rstewart@adobe.com)
- Ryan Stewart
There's a bug in there. Where's the if statement immediately inside the if still_not_Crashed condition that checks "If(bootLog.BootsSinceLastCrash >2), throw new BSOD();".
- The Fat Oracle
funny - but i've never had a problem with Vista - in fact I'm a Mac owner who LOVES vista. take that
- andy brudtkuhl
Google searching Twitter? OneRiot does it already » VentureBeat http://venturebeat.com/2009... (Very cool, and very different from friendfeed/t search).
I think data mining via search is going to become so complex and so accurate that a price can't be set on it's value. Searching the worlds data is going to make it possible for systems to manufacture new facts and stories, will it be an accurate truth or a version of the truth? Still fasinating stuff.
- Owen Greaves
hey Robert - thanks for the shout out. new release drops at 9am (in about 30 mins). For those checking it out now... come back soon and give us your feedback :)
- Tobias Peggs
@Tobias Peggs: Look forward to that. Playing around with it right now. Will the change be noticeable?
- David Damore
check it now :) would *love* feedback.
- Tobias Peggs
Also playing with OneRiot and TweetMeme today...
- andy brudtkuhl
Was curious as to what a search for "oneriot" would turn up, unfortunatly site crashed my iPhone browser
- William
@william - ug, apologies, first day jitters. however, watch out for an optimized m. in the coming weeks!
- Tobias Peggs
I was about to take a look at OneRiot but then saw the Tweetmeme search. Hard to see how I'd move from using Tweetmeme for another site now that they have the same feature.
- Kevin Kuphal
"Jenson Button is giving his team-mate Rubens Barrichello a bit of grief over the Brawn team radio - he wants to put as much daylight between the two Brawns and the chasing pack as possible. "Come on Rubens you can go quicker than this..." he pleads on the radio."
- Alejandro
Justin.tv is shutting down channels for copyright. Right now I'm watching a german channel and listening to a spanish one (because it has bad resolution) :)
- Alejandro
Alejandro, shame you cannot get the BBC coverage. I had problems with Justin.tv yesterday the feed was OK for a bit then it started channel hopping then stopped altogether.
- Kol Tregaskes
Massa and Vettel are ahead of Button. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
yea, I was watching a nice english channel, and for some reason it stopped working. it has problems, but I haven't found another place to watch the races online. the tv is too far away. ;)
- Alejandro
Well according to the commentators but the stats yeah otherwise.
- Kol Tregaskes
is that f1 in brazil? if the winner finish do they still play that soft-porn tune? I love that. saw a Brazilian replay of massa's first win in brazil. (schumi last race)
- Remo
i don't remember that tune Remo. Now I can't wait for this to finish. ;) I'll let you know. :)
- Alejandro
barrichello still has fastest lap lol
- ralphsaunders
I like having each service as an individual contact. Much easier. Can we see the same for Pownce?
- Chris Nixon
Well, IMified has taken bot to a next level.. I even created a customized option to check my google calendar appointments for today (a quick schedule for today) by interacting with bot! Not sure, if they have one for Pownce..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
One year later. Just bumping this because it's the one year anniversary of the only item on FriendFeed to get more than 400 likes. (452 at the moment)
- Ken Sheppardson
This is where the movie "Richy Rich" was filmed. Built by George Vanderbilt in the late 1800s, opened in 1895. "Building Biltmore was, at the time, one of the largest undertakings in the history of American residential architecture and the results were astounding. Over a six-year period, an entire community of craftsmen worked to build the country's premier home. The estate boasted its own brick factory, woodworking shop, and a three-mile railway spur for transporting materials to the site."
- FFing Enigma
That's got to be Google Earth'd. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I can I just say: SIX YEARS?!? How in the name of all that is holy did they finish this in six years? I can't even get my garden planted in three!!!
- FFing Enigma
It is a nice place. I've been there a few times when we lived in NC
- RAPatton
It was also the location for the Peter Sellers movie, "Being There."
- Rebecca Lasley
w00t!!! Pea, Friday night works great for me, and if you're seriously thinking about going to Biltmore on Saturday I'll give Adam a call and see if he can get you a discount tour ticket (and maybe see if he can hook you up with a room in Greenville Friday night). It's less than 1.5 hours from here so you could head out early Saturday and have a nice day up there. And it's not quite their busy season yet, so bonus.
- FFing Enigma
If you want to stay at a B&B close by, I _highly_ recommend the Biltmore Village Inn! Pricey but very worth it!
- Paul Reynolds
Yeah i got forefathers that helped build that place in Asheville....I think Asheville is one of the most beautiful little cities in America....without the population that is....
- Racism Occupied
Recodnised it from the movie instantly :)
- Roberto Bonini
People around here often refer to Asheville as San Francisco East.
- Rebecca Lasley
I got reprimanded at Biltmore by a fellow tour-taker for taking photographs because the flash was "harming the antiques". When I pointed out that I was not using flash, she said I was harming them anyway. Sigh.
- Andy Roth
The Palace of Versailles is not impressed :-)
- Todd Hoff
Yeah, Asheville is a great town. Highly recommend Jerusalem Tree and The Lobster Trap for eats for anyone passing through there.
- FFing Enigma
I just visited the Biltmore In October when i did a trip to ATL and SC. Was able to get some great pics of the outside and the grounds. It's such and amazing place. I was bummed they ban camera's inside. Even tried to sneak a few with my phone. LOL
- Autumn Robertson
Where'd you go in SC, Autumn? I'm in Greenville, about 60 miles from Asheville.
- FFing Enigma
Tina, my dad's side of the family is from Canton, NC. That's near you!
- Rochelle
Why yes it is Rochelle! You should come visit the next time you... Well, the next time you're coming to visit =)
- FFing Enigma
I've never actually been to NC. One day, though!
- Rochelle
Secret: My Folks are from Enka Candler...We have a Mt named after our family there. Holloway Mountain and my other side is in Hominy Valley....
- Racism Occupied
I was in Greenville!!! I have family out there. I went and visited Carmen first in ATL and then drove to Greenville to spend the rest of my trip with family.
- Autumn Robertson
GAH!!! Well heck, let me know the next time you're through here. I have a standing offer to buy any FFer a beer/coffee/beverage of their choice when they're in town. 9 months in and someone is finally taking me up on the offer on Friday...
- FFing Enigma
Tina - Take a screen shot of this. Send it to the marketing manager and tell them you'd like the travel agent commission. (Sorry, can't help it). PS: Up in this region, it's the Mohonk Mountain House (Upstate NY) .... extraordinary! http://www.mohonk.com Views are incredible.
- Charlie Anzman
Yeah ... Been there when I was doing the 'travel' SEO thing. Nice fringe benefit :) They didn't put TV's in until just a few years ago. People preferred it that way. Also, your car needs to be capable of climbing a huge hill without overheating (really :) Near New Paltz, NY
- Charlie Anzman
seems like way too much yard work. i spend weekends in my yard as it is, how do they find the time?
- Lou Paglia
Lou, it's a privately owned property but they have a very full staff for the grounds and the house.
- FFing Enigma
Tina, I know. I was joking. LOL. (give me some credit) What do you think, they just pull their john deere out of the shed out back? :)
- Lou Paglia
Lou, I know people who would LOVE to try and tackle that space with their John Deere! =D
- FFing Enigma
I believe they would only try it one time. :) But guess you just put on the iPod and go back and forth. For some, it is probably peaceful.
- Lou Paglia
It is a nice place. They produce everything they need on the Estate...from Beef to Wine.
- Kreg Steppe
except it's not evidence of old media death, it's a change in policies which led to the replacement of these individual boxes with a different type.
- Chieze Okoye
President Obama vowed to try to stop the faltering insurance giant American International Group from paying out hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to executives, as the administration scrambled to avert a populist backlash against banks and Wall Street that could complicate Mr. Obama’s economic recovery agenda.
- grant fox
from Bookmarklet
"A.I.G. executives say that they are contractually obligated to pay the bonuses to their executives, including those who are part of the A.I.G. division where the company’s crisis originated." Hmm, what if that's actually true? No matter, it surely isn't actually true, at least not for all of them.
- ⓞnor
If you are contractually obligated to pay a bonus, why isn't it "salary"?
- Bret Taylor
Easy way around the contract problem. Give the folks who are set to get these bonuses a choice.... take the bonus and lose your job. Refuse the bonus and keep your job. AIG has failed so spectacularly that they need billions in bailouts so I can't see the problem with firing a few of the folks responsible.
- Jeff Jones
Yeah, 'cause we may as well throw out all of our contract laws also. Who needs them? The government will keep us all nice & cozy. Now run along.
- Craig Eddy
Contracts can be renegotiated. For instance, the gov't basically required the UAW to renegotiate their contracts when GM was bailed out, and something similar could have happened with AIG.
- Larry Greenfield
Corporate thieves.. come on lets call a spade a spade !!
- Peter Dawson
That's fine Larry. But what this sounds like it class envy, pure and simple. Just like we rarely see a definition of "rich" when we hear "tax the rich", I'd like to see what "executive" actually means.
- Craig Eddy
I rarely hear "tax the rich" at all outside of straw-man arguments. And being upset that people who work for me are being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for their abysmal performance has more to do with agency and accountability than envy.
- Jim Norris
Ahhhh.. you knew the right wing class warfare drivel would be spewed forth sometime in this discussion. Come on Eddy, after eight years of the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top 5% it's "class envy" to be outraged about taxpayer money going to pay bonuses for the people who caused the need for the bailout in the first place? Get another schtick.. no one is buying that one anymore.
- Jeff Jones
Bret: A contractually obligated bonus can differ from a salary because the bonus is usually set by some sort of performance metric, whereas salaries are fixed. Those metrics may no longer seem sensible to you or I, but the contract stands. Larry: You can only renegotiate if the counterparty has a reason to come to the table. The UAW did; these guys don't, really -- they will take their money and split no matter what. And unlike the UAW, these are many contracts with many individuals.
- ⓞnor
Jeff: "Take the bonus and lose your job" is probably exactly what they are hoping for right now. Wouldn't you, if the bonus was millions of dollars, and the job was with a pariah company in federal receivership? Unlike the UAW workers, these guys don't care about keeping their job.
- ⓞnor
"these guys don't care about keeping their job" ... amazing how some presume to speak for "these guys" and (more than likely) have no idea who the hell they're talking about. The worse thing to come of all this (besides the fact that we did it at all) is the de-humanizing of the corporation. This isn't some anonymous evil mastermind that's getting this bonus.
- Craig Eddy
Craig, who's demonizing who here? Contractually guaranteed bonuses are common at financial firms, but only for people making a very large amount of money. I'm just saying that it's very likely the recipients of AIG's contractual bonuses have no reason to want to trade their bonus (likely millions of dollars) for their job (which kind of sucks right now), and that's why the UAW comparison is not a good one.
- ⓞnor
But I am very happy to say that the wealthy individuals who engineered a system of "regulatory arbitrage" (fraud) creating one of the greatest concentrations of unaccounted financial risk ever known, which is now holding the world hostage and requiring hundreds of billions of taxpayer money, can do without their bonus this year. You can howl about envy and class warfare all you like, but they fucked up massively, the government bought them out, and they can now eat their damn crow and go home.
- ⓞnor
Again, let's not assume that "wealthy individuals" are the onces getting the majority of these bonuses. Especially since the Washington Post dispels that misinformation in a recent article: "some of the upcoming bonuses are relatively modest once they are divided among employees. About 4,700 people in the company's global insurance units are receiving $600 million in retention pay. In...
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- Craig Eddy
"AIG's top seven executives, including Liddy, already agreed in November to forgo their bonuses through this year. Last week, AIG agreed to restructure bonuses for the next 43 highest ranking officers at the company, who are to receive half of their bonuses -- which total $9.6 million"
- Craig Eddy
So it appears that MOST of this bonus money was offered to employees as retention bonuses: stay on board through these tough times. Those employees agreed to stay, and now they're promises are threatened by the very entity that was supposed to bail this company out. Would you stay?
- Craig Eddy
Every day I believe more and more Twitter is to microblogging what Compuserve and AOL were to the world-wide web in the early 90s. Those betting their hopes on Laconica being the solution are kidding themselves, though.
- Mark Trapp
It's strikes me as noteworthy that when Twitter was having issues a few months back, there was a lot of noise related to the fact that the blogging/publishing model obviously couldn't scale, and that it would be necessary to go to a messaging (e.g. XMPP) backbone. Then Laconica rolled out with a RDBMS publishing model on the back end, Twitter did whatever they needed to do to work around the problems, and now everyone just seems to be assuming once again that it's the proper model.
- Ken Sheppardson
...i.e. that all you have to do is slap a theme on Wordpress and you've got a scalable microblogging engine.
- Ken Sheppardson
The problem with this approach is it's all still working on a backbone that was built for blogging, not microblogging. I haven't looked thoroughly, but it would seem scalability would be tough with this approach.
- Jesse Stay
Also, how will it work with OMB? Or how are they working with others to standardize how it will communicate with other microblogging platforms?
- Jesse Stay
Ken: when everyone is creating their own microblogging service for their own purposes, the question stops being "how can I use Twitter to do X" and becomes, "how can we get all these services talking to each other?" Think Email: I can set up a mail server on some 10 year old equipment. Will it scale to 10 million people? Definitely not. But it serves a specific purpose and can talk to all the other mail servers without a hitch. Laconica, for the reasons you described (among many others) is not the solution.
- Mark Trapp
I don't care if you fake follow me. I don't define myself by who follows me, but I define myself by who +I+ follow! I follow smart people who teach me things and put interesting stuff in my view. If you stop, or prove to be a jerk or a troll, then I'll just unsubscribe.
All I can say to that is, you better enjoy a lot of good German brews while you're there. It's non-sequitor, and that is what you should expect from me.
- Pete D
Wait. Isn't Robert Scoble just Alex Scoble's older brother?
- Akiva
Pete, the correct spelling is "Mississippi." And Robert, "The Metro" and "Take My Breath Away" are really good songs. And I think you'd agree that the content that you obtain from your subscribees is more important than your subscribee count. It's a content game, not a numbers game.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Akiva: yup, Alex is my younger brother. You can't really blame him for how he is. I used to beat him up. Of course, he gave me my issues with authority. He told mom. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Pete: Rocky already found a bar that has hundreds of beers. I have a feeling we'll be seen there once or twice between now and Sunday.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, he seems to be doing all right so far!
- Akiva
Great example of being quality-centered instead of market-centered... do what you love and a market will find you...
- Justin Long
@Akiva, yeah, robert scoble uses his last name to get by on alex's gig.
- Morgan Warstler
Akiva- You are the man...that's the funniest stuff I've seen since the whole Korn of the Blog thing.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
@Pete - I just want you to know that your non sequitur above ended up inspiring dozens of non sequiturs on FriendFeed this evening. I hope you're Melvin about that.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
That's one of the many things I like about FriendFeed: how many people follow you isn't displayed at the top level. I hope that doesn't change. I think a lot of people on Twitter (and other social networks) only obsess over their followers/friends just because everyone else can see it. I also think that's why a lot of people don't like FriendFeed... you've got to give substance to get substance.
- Paul Reynolds
@Ontario I've stopped shaking my fist, just so you know.
- Pete D
Agreed - I don't think I'll ever "fake follow". I'd rather just unsubscribe - those I follow I try to pay attention to.
- Jesse Stay
How does one 'fake follow' a person? Is it hard? Is it fun? Can I do it?
- Michael Moran
I agree with you Robert as I don't see any valid reason for me as an individual to fake follow anyone!
- Joe Dawson
Yeah @robert, how or whats "fake follow" ?
- Arjun
Agree on this, though I think from a feature perspective it's a smart one!
- Vinodh Nandakumar
NEW (February 25): Of course two weeks ago I started auto following again. Why? Cause Direct Messaging on Twitter is broken. But here on friendfeed I have a different philosophy. I am using lists to follow specific people and segregate those out from other people. So I can keep the geeks who talk tech separate from my brother, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
That said, I assume everyone is smart until they prove otherwise. :-)
- Robert Scoble
i just wish people would stop talking about following in general :P
- Terry O'Fee
This would have more credibility now Robert if you protested the capping of manual follows at 2000 until you get followers of that number and can move on now. You got to autofollow with abandon; today normal people are capped on manual follows. Unfair.
- Prokofy Neva
Holy hell, this thread is 6 months old!
- coldbrew
I would agree with Garin, followers/following is not important, but discussion is. BTW, Loic is very good a starting this type of arguments (must be his French side).
- Jeremy Chone
dont worry, matt. there's about five or six conversations of the same discussion now.
- Terry O'Fee
lol - I really enjoy your posts and convo - I learn many things - and thanks for the laughs too : )
- Mark Harai
I'd respond to this thread but necro-posting creates zombie threads and zombie threads eat Brrraaaiiinnnnsss! :P
- MarkCarras
Robert you have alot to teach and you seem teachable also-sign of a good journalist.
- earlewallace
I won't hire anyone I can't find details in Google about. So, make sure you feed it good stuff about you. That's why I think it's necessary to blog now if you're looking for a job. But Seth's post reminds you to blog about what you want to do and make sure you think about the consequences.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
"Everything you do now ends up in your permanent record. The best plan is to overload Google with a long tail of good stuff and to always act as if you're on Candid Camera, because you are."
- V Mary Abraham
V Mary: at Microsoft we taught each other to always pretend that everything you said would get onto the front page of the New York Times.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: We understand this, but how do we help teens eager for an FB page understand this?
- V Mary Abraham
I agree, It's good to know what those people think you will be working with
- Helge V. Keitel
V Mary: my son, who is 15, was talking to me about that last night. He said he doesn't put a lot of weird stuff on his facebook or myspace pages because he knows other kids will use it against him. His friends bug him about that too.
- Robert Scoble
As a college student, I actually think a lot of "millennial" types monitor pretty closely what's on their social network pages. They may make poor decisions about which pictures are appropriate, but believe me, a lot of thought goes behind it. Just because there's Facebook, MySpace, and Google doesn't make drinking and drugs any less "cool" in college.
- James O'Malley
from twhirl
To bring this into real life, too, last night I was listening to two guys who were griping about being laid off. Both had weird punk haircuts. Both had bad attitudes. Neither were talking about creating something that would get them noticed in the global marketplace, just that they had been screwed by the system. They might have had a point, but it wasn't going to get their jobs back. Get a haircut that tells other people that they are professional and upstanding. Then go volunteer time somewhere. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
i've preached this to my teens constantly, what you do online lasts forever and even if you think it's in a closed network like fb that only you're friends can see it doesn't matter, it will surface - the frontpage of ny times is being replaced by search filters and bots - i'd rather see folks own their brands via ownership of their profile(s) and a domain that's theirs that maintains pointers to everything they want to publish/share about themselves and their interests
- mike "glemak" dunn
In the long run, all stupidity on Facebook (and like places) will be forgiven... There'll be so much dirt on everyone that nobody cares anymore. Private live doesn't say much about one's professional performance. It's just that everyone wants to pretend that they're very well behaved everywhere.... This masquerade will slowly disappear.
- Meryn Stol
"Get a haircut that tells other people that they are professional and upstanding. Then go volunteer time somewhere." Indeed. It's so sad to see people with a victim-attitude.
- Meryn Stol
"The best plan is to overload Google with a long tail of good stuff " I like that bit.
- Meryn Stol
+1 Meryn! Stop being so buttoned up and just have fun!
- Brad Williamson
There is no such thing as privacy anymore. Everything is public and saved for ever. It is harder and harder to control your personal brand. Bruce Schneier wrote an interesting article yesterday. http://tinyurl.com/c74rxa Here is a short quote : "Welcome to the future, where everything about you is saved. A future where your actions are recorded, your movements are tracked, and your...
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- Tapio Kulmala
I'd like to clarify that I think that one's personal life doesn't matter, *as long as* someone displays a good professional attitude. Hopefully this shows from your Google search, or similar.
- Meryn Stol
If someone's haircut is how you judge them, I believe that can be adequately described as superficial. Who decides what a "professional hair cut" is? I don't think a haircut has anything to do with a victim attitude.
- coldbrew
"a haircut has anything to do a victim attitude". Objectively, you're right, Coldbrew, but if your potential employers truly dislikes your haircut, it decreases your chances of being hired. Doing everything you can to adapt to the environment if you're in trouble is the only right strategy. Otherwise, you're just blaming the environment, which won't bring you any further. If you're in an environment where people don't care about your haircut, all the better for you. :)
- Meryn Stol
Robert, it sounds like your son has his head on straight. My impression is that is quite rare among teens who often seem to feel that they are exceptional (invincible?) and just won't get caught.
- V Mary Abraham
coldbrew: Malcom Gladwell and others teach us that job decisions are made in the first 30 seconds. So, having a professional looking attire may make the difference. It sure does with me. I don't want to work with people who look unprofessional. Yesterday I visited Cisco. I noticed that the guy who met me was wearing a suit and tie. He sure isn't going to hire you if you wear a ratty t-shirt, have tatoos showing, and have a punk haircut.
- Robert Scoble
Thankfully, in Boulder, it is seen as odd to wear a tie. It is exactly this type of attitude that makes me appreciate co-founding my own organization where we set the values, and they have nothing to do with appearance (ok, maybe the sales person's appearance is linked to performance).
- coldbrew
I worked for a CEO once that wouldn't hire people that were overweight because he believed it demonstrated a lack of self-respect. Obviously, we had to part ways :)
- coldbrew
Coldbrew, I like your "tolerance", but accepting others "intolerance" is part of life. That is, if you're on the needy side.
- Meryn Stol
coldbrew: exactly. But I bet you have your own little biases on hiring. I know I have mine. Of course I still hired Rocky, who rides a Harley, has tatoos, etc. So there. :-) Funny enough, though, he was sort of forced on me at Podtech and we found that we got along after a while.
- Robert Scoble
It didn't matter, he was judging by appearance like Scoble is suggesting is ok.
- coldbrew
Ok, Scoble, I should have guessed these were mere guidelines, but I'd rather encourage people to base their decisions on things like productivity, insight, creativity, etc.
- coldbrew
coldbrew: I'm not sure I quite got to the point where I condoned it, just explained it happens all the time. This is why you wear decent clothes to interviews. Me? I look at what you do online. Your online reputation is important to me if I'm going to hire you.
- Robert Scoble
Colbrew, I'm not sure he's suggesting that.
- Meryn Stol
Yeah, when you are hiring for the PR industry,I suppose image is important.
- coldbrew
coldbrew: research shows that people don't actually hire on anything but the first 30 seconds impression. The rest of it is justification. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I take it this is all hypothetical, meant as advice, since Rocky was laid off. I assume you aren't *actually* hiring... or are you? And another question... I have many other interests besides programming, and I do not own the I.P. developed on someone else's dime, thus cannot blog about it. Since my blog to date is "me minus programming," and there is a glut of good blogs about programming, I'm not sure this advice applies. Does my public LinkedIn profile solve this dilemma? Thanks in advance....
- Richard Walker
Richard: some day I will be in position to hire once again. Some day. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Richard: I'd rather you be able to point to a blog where you have demos, samples, and other examples of what kind of programming turns you on. That demonstrates to me that you actually know what you're talking about, rather than LinkedIn, which just is a resume.
- Robert Scoble
I have done that for several years. Now its quite more relevant because of all the social info, but even 4-5 years ago you were able in some cases to find a small crumb trail.
- RicardoSilva
Where are those days where you could just lie about who you are to get a job ? :) update: [/sarcasm] (Just in case anyone misses it)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Erwin: the problem is that if you advertise a job right now you'll get hundreds, or thousands, of responses. So you MUST filter them down to, say, 10, to have any chance of getting any work done. That's why the Internet is such an important part of your career plan. You won't get past the filtering stage if you don't work on that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert, I could at least go through all my programming-related items and feed them to tumblr...
- Richard Walker
@robert, you'd miss out on alot of prospects from entertainment biz, then. a lot of the industry doesn't want people to find them - it's more word of mouth, intros, relationships, etc.
- Patricia
Not disagreeing with you about first impressions counting, but I was hiring in late 2002 - early 2003 - when there were also far more candidates than jobs, and there were a huge number of candidates who wore 'professional' clothes and had 'professional' resumes, but no talent at all. Most of the people who were worth hiring stood out in some way. Not nose-rings and tattoos, but at least some amount of individuality, implying a level of confidence in their ability to perform rather than just conform.
- Robin Barooah
It all depends on the character of the company and the nature of the position. Personally, I wouldn't want to be associated with any organization that judged people so superficially based on tattoos, piercings, hair color or style. If I was a client and walked into an office with little variation in attire and personal grooming, I'd run away scared and really wonder about how such an atmosphere could foster much creativity.
- Tinfoil 2.0
We've surfaced thousands of people and brands using social media for branding. see http://media.tEarn.com/ Old media guys have terrible brands. New media has been very aggressive.
- DJ Chang
These factors should be evaluated in context. I might not hire a starving artist in a long-term full-time position but to clean my house every week or two? Why not? Otherwise that smacks of the sort of elitism that gives elitism a bad name.
- Kyle Maxwell
Observing this trend of googleing everybody is part of the reason why I started http://www.extendr.com. Among the many reasons it fits in this conversation is at least that most of us don't have the time or expertise to game Google to get the results we want. Why not create a page of your web footprint and start sharing that place? Your candor in my experience will not go unnoticed.
- Joseph Rueter
joseph - i think your site/product will be useful to some folks trying to create one location to point to & not have to create their own - i've been using using http://glemak.com for years for just that reason, but i wouldn't be in your demo ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'm a very open person; I post about many topics most people would consider private or controversial (or both) and often very publicly. I always do so knowing that I am posting ONLINE and that anyone could potentially see my comments. Any lesser awareness is either naiveté or stupidity. Be bold (and accept the consequences) or be private.
- fn (fairnymph)
I'm so tired of how blogs want to be treated like press but can't be bothered to act in a professionally responsible manner.
- Kevin Cheng
A lot of the press can't either; the nice thing about blogs is that the conversational aspects of the medium make it easier to respond publicly. (The downside is that page views count for more than a reputation for accuracy.)
- Jim Norris
Re-read the headline: "Did Last.fm Just Hand Over User Listening Data To the RIAA?" <sarcasm>Since the headline ends in a question mark, everything is clearly fine. It's a question, not a statement.</sarcasm>
- Matt Cutts
Matt - it is called link bait... and TC should know better/try to be better than that. The upside for Arrington is that it is still happening in his absence. See Mike - it wasn't you... it was TC's attitude that caused the invective - not that anything TC did made what happened to you OK.
- Brian Roy
I've heard about doing this before but have never seen pictures or even thought about the actual process. Filtering seems to be a key stage. I would love to try this with Sour Skittles!
- Tony Ruscoe
I'm a bit concerned that if this baby ever comes, I will want to spend my days as a new mom drinking... so many tasty friendfeed shares that I have not yet been able to try!
- Clare Dibble
Maybe if you start drinking, the baby will want to escape!
- Gabe
"Those anxiously awaiting the restart of the most complex machine ever built on earth will have to wait a little longer, as CERN today announced they were pushing back Large Hadron's restart to September."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Good. I can enjoy the summer before imploding to nothingness.
- Ontario Emperor
Integrated but un-deployed code is inventory. Eric Ries says that "Our eventual conclusion was that there was no reason to have code that had passed the integration step but was not yet deployed." http://bit.ly/7OMw / You can apply this thinking to every piece of work-in-process that is not yet in the customer's hands.
- Nivi
Definitely should have given credit where credit is due. It's fine to copy, even to be encouraged, but it would have been classier to at least admit to being inspired.
- DeWitt Clinton
Is I like patented to FF? I do not think so. I remember some forums and bulletin boards having it.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק