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Три центра деятельности: центр действия, центр рефлексии и центр методологии.
Jinger, Аква and Lilia Efimova liked this
Моё - про рефлексию, совсем немного про методологию. Действие дается каждый раз с воем, зона далеко не ближайшего развития, как ни пытайся.
- Urbansheep
from fftogo
В этом делении я пока что про действие. Но все больше приходится касаться методологии. А рефлексия, она по жизни.
- tobe
http://skitch.com/makiwar...
- Maki
Я застряла в рефлексии. Очень хочется выбраться в центр действия по собственной воле. А про что "центр методологии"?
- Аква
Методология, в этой схеме, про правила и технологии, их создание и применение. Рефлексия — про извлечение опыта.
- Urbansheep
Прокниги: Похоже, книгу этого года я все же успел найти и прочитать до того, как год кончился. Они каждый раз ощутимо меняют жизнь.
hostya, Lilia Efimova, Jinger and 3 other people liked this
а что за книга оказалась?
- marinka239
ну не темни уже, что за книжечка то? :)
- bifurcafe
Да, да, какая книга?
- Prometa
"Незнайка на Луне"
- Phil Smirnov
^^^, извините, но лайк.
- tobe
ужас, что френдфид животворящий делает. больше месяца не ходил на Слэшдот. тупо не вспоминал про него!
Igor Kuzmin, Egor Kunovsky, Juras Vetrau and 7 other people liked this
Аналогичная ситуация с dirty.ru - все заслуживающее внимания пролетает в фф на сутки раньше.
- andrei_c
У меня самые быстро-реагируемые вещи неуклонно переезжают из гугл-ридера в комнаты фрф (а я как раз думаю про то, как лучше описать три новые паттерна с комнатами). т.е фрф украл меня у блога, у жж и у гугл-ридера. радоваться или огорчаться -- не знаю.
- Urbansheep
from fftogo
Как бы мне тут ленту друзей из я.ру быстро тут во frf организовать? Сделать воображаемого друга?
- Двадцать
@rugevara: сервисы типа ЖЖ и Я.ру сюда не перетащишь — только по названиям там ничего не понятно :) Все читаемые РСС-потоки плавно перевел в воображаемых друзей, но в все равно ЖЖ нужно ходить отдельно.
- Juras Vetrau
Ну можно написать яхопайп, который бы к заголовкам из френдленты приклеивал имя автора поста.
- Двадцать
@rugevara: все равно не хватит :) Там ведь часто суть в паре фоток или коротких фраз, открывать десяток таких ссылок в новых закладках не особо удобно — проще выйти в ленту и быстро пробежаться, увидев все и сразу.
- Juras Vetrau
можно добавить как воображаемого друга, но открывать не все посты подряд, а просто ленту, когда несколько новых записей появляются. типа такого оповещения
- ur argument is invalid
@va1enok: я к тому что овчинка не стоит выделки :) Я пробовал последние пару месяцев читать ФрФ по такой схеме — ленты типа ЖЖ как раз в виде оповещений. Но это все достаточно бессмысленно — их цель в том чтобы ты открыл эту ленту и увидел свежие записи. Но если ты и так туда зайдешь, не сегодня так завтра — какой смысл им постоянно капать тебе на мозг, еще и засоряя ленту? :) По мне...
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- Juras Vetrau
угу блин. я жежешечку три недели не читал :(
- тут не место для
Can you help? Looking for recent post that argues against explicitly targeting collaboration as a goal for social networking. Cant find it.
Lilia Efimova liked this
Competition not collaboration http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2008.... Also take a look at http://lewisshepherd.wordpress.com/2008... and http://dontcallmetina.wordpress.com/2007... and http://www.web-strategist.com/blog.... I don't think any...
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- Robin Yellow
thanks Robin - useful links
- Lee Bryant
I’m So Totally, Digitally Close to You - Clive Thompson - NYTimes.com (nytimes.com) - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
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“It’s an aggregate phenomenon,” Marc Davis, a chief scientist at Yahoo and former professor of information science at the University of California at Berkeley, told me. “No message is the single-most-important message. It’s sort of like when you’re sitting with someone and you look over and they smile at you. You’re sitting here reading the paper, and you’re doing your side-by-side thing, and you just sort of let people know you’re aware of them.” Yet it is also why it can be extremely hard to understand the phenomenon until you’ve experienced it. Merely looking at a stranger’s Twitter or Facebook feed isn’t interesting, because it seems like blather. Follow it for a day, though, and it begins to feel like a short story; follow it for a month, and it’s a novel.
- Urbansheep
People are funny creatures that annoy you with their smiles and cheer and all - http://ffffound.com/image...
cyberpunk soul, Lilia Efimova, Jinger and 6 other people liked this
disambiguity - » Social literacy - does ‘karma gaming’ matter? - http://www.disambiguity.com/social-...
Lilia Efimova liked this
People gaming the system does bother me, specially when the results of the gaming are made visible (top xyz) and when people start using those results to make them mean something they do not. People love numbers and are seduced by them. I try to fight against that, to some extent.
- Stephanie Booth
from Bookmarklet
IBM Slides: It's 1975 And This Man Is About To Show You The Future - http://www.squareamerica.com/ib...
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Reinventing Knowledge: From Alexandria to the Internet - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Lilia Efimova, Barbara Dieu (a.k.a. Bee) and Leif Hansen liked this
realized why many disciplinary science folks aren't up in arms over open-access: they only need access to a handful of journals.
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Cleaning up my FriendFeed. I inadvertently imported friends from someplace and was following waaaaay to many people. Friend Clutter Be Gone.
Susan Beebe and Lilia Efimova liked this
Argh! You mean there is no effective persona editor in the market today to help you clean up your digital lifestyle environment? Are you telling me that VCs don;t fund innovative products?
- Marc Canter
funny, I found having more friendfeed people to follow was much more interesting than less...
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy, I was at over 300 people -- way too many to make FF usable.
- Charlene Li
I wanna make the cut - too!
- Marc Canter
Do you have the Friendfeed Facebook app installed? That's why.
- Steve Rubel
I have only 30-something. Even they can be noisy sometimes.
- Selim Yoruk
it is tough to rebuild that after you spend time hunting out the right ones to follow
- Chris Miller
from twhirl
to me it was enough to have one noise-lover (tm)
- A.T.
Having a small amount of contacts on FF is very effective. Unlike most other social networks, data from friend of a friend (FoaF) will show up on the feed. Keep it tight.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Ironic that she started the conversation on twitter then just sharing it via FF.
- Ralph Whitbeck
Do YOU have your own distributed Personal Knowledge Base? - http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2008...
Lilia Efimova liked this
А вики-воспитание было всегда, кстати: «it takes a village to raise a child.»
Lilia Efimova, Peter Fedin, Jinger and Jellicle Cat liked this
Урбан, расшифруй это для меня, пожалуйста. Разжуй, я не понял.
- denis
Социальные сети, кстати, тоже появились на несколько тысяч лет раньше веба (:
- dreikanter
Истину глаголешь. Но сейчас такое не работает из-за очень больших разногласий в религиозных вопросах между потенциальными воспитателями.
- Kolomeetz
@kolomeetz, ну так там, где институт сообщества выше, чем индивидуальность, там это и продолжает работать. # Штука в том, что старая "деревня" нужна была для выживания в агрессивном мире и агрессивной среде. Сейчас цивилизация смягчила среду, а НТП упростил мир, не нужно мириться с другими, можно спокойно выжить и размножиться без толпы сородичей. Но при этом теряются важные ценности,...
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- Urbansheep
from fftogo
в деревне 1.x соседей обычно не выбирают, в отличие от.
- 9000
Ага. В любом более-менее крупном сообществе соседей не выбирают. Всегда внутри любого крупного клуба-коллектива-сообщества возможны и возникнут трения.
- Urbansheep
Поэтому-то деревне2.0 нужно иметь внутри достаточно крепкий стержень, чтобы игра в группе была всегда ценнее, чем игра в одиночку. Точнее, чтобы в игре оставались только те, кто чувствует и знает, что этот самый коллектив даёт им лично больше, чем они теряют на неудобных соседях. ¶ И, собственно, задача в том, чтобы построить не просто одну игру, а устойчивое сообщество.
- Urbansheep
устойчивое сообщество ftl типа
- Noone
Awesome: Windows Live Writer gets auto linking - http://crueltobekind.org/archive...
Phil Ashman, Lilia Efimova, Charlie Anzman and 2 other people liked this
This is a feature I would love to see in Wiki editors - albeit in a slightly modified form: I would like to get suggestions for links as I type. It is no big deal, as in the Wiki there are canonical references to concepts.
- Lars Trieloff
I am trying to get tool makers like zemanta to do this, because f.e. zemanta already has what auto linking only barely does: give me more than one option around it. i expect that by 2020 I will be able to have better tools to help me get more productive. ;)
- Nicole Simon
I am thinking of auto-linking and automatic context providers like Zemanta as different categories. Auto-linking should point to the "right thing" automatically. Of course this only works when there is a glossary (either a real one, or the links you have been using before). Zemanta gives you additional input. Other examples of context generators are the Gnome Dashboard (this concept is already five years old, so your 2020-guess might be a bit optimistic) http://nat.org/dashboard/
- Lars Trieloff
lars: yes but learning over time (or import / export) could work similar to how you would use autocorrection. And in many cases I might not want to link to your blog (autolink) but one of your other venues. If you read German, you might want to link to my german address or my english one. Hence something like Zemanta with additional offerings would be nicer. :)
- Nicole Simon
remembering fruit I used to eat as a child. Fruit whose names I barely remember. Fruit for which I have no English words.
Lilia Efimova and Phil Wolff liked this
Proposal to Clean Up the FriendFeed Clutter « I’m Not Actually a Geek - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...
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Hutch Carpenter, Tsega Dinka, fbrunel and 72 other people liked this
Interesting and thoughtful ideas...
- Bret Taylor
Can this be implemented? It would be awesomesauce and a definite timesaver.
- Corvida
"Person-Centric or Link-Centric?": both?
- minus-one
Totally agree with what you have written!
- Joe Dawson
from Alert Thingy
i see the benefits, but also the problems behind it. (not saying one should not try!) It would also switch intentions. people do not post answers to you if you blog about something, but they will post because famous person X has shared that for example and they answered to *that* person. putting the comments to the 'original' changes the intent. so a listing like that would need to make a tree out of that.
- Nicole Simon
I think additional aggregation would be nice, but you'd open up a can of worms. For example, I often click like on the first one I see it, then may add it to my SU or other services. who get's the top spot? the one where it first hit Friendfeed which in some cases may be through twitter because they are pulled more often?
- Nicole Simon
www.friendfeedmachine.com goes some way towards alleviating this problem, with some more features due in a few days, especially around aggregation - via FriendFeedMachine
- Scott Goldie
Both :) IMO link-centric presentation is preferable, assuming of course UI and work flow related issues at the point of adding a link to FF directly are nicely resolved.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I think I'd prefer person-centric but link-centric is interesting too. I see link centric as a personalised memetracker...
- Andy Davies
+1 for person centric filtering first
- Alex Gawley
i prefer link-centric since it would clean up FF.. but thinking that rather than accumulating events like 'Shared on Google Reader' or 'bookmarked on Delicious', it should be shown as 'Likes' on the original feed. If there is some value add, like Comments or Tweets, only then, show it as an event.
- Vishy
FF already supports person-centric see http://friendfeed.com/bret/ but I guess one person at a time only.
- Shakeel Mahate
@shakeel - i think the purpose of 'person centric' is to group all of a single person's activities as they relate to a specific URL into a single entry. As such FF doesn't do that right now.
- Alex Gawley
I prefer link-centric. it would be great to centralize the conversation. There should be a priority tree, though. Blog>Google Reader>Delicious...etc. The item with the higher priority goes first.
- Alejandro
Person-centric could be used in the user's own list of activities.
- Alejandro
Whatever you call it, I want to be able to see what the content is about. Just don't tell me Person X has bookmarked a page on Site Y. I need to know the title.
- Mike Reynolds
I think link-centric is intriguing. An organic techmeme, built directly on users' actions and transparent. Biggest concern with centralizing activity under one link is the echo-chamber effect that could result. I suspect that can be managed - e.g. the meme is set up in a separate tab, away from the flow of friends' updates.
- Hutch Carpenter
I would always vote for link-centric. If somebody else shares it...add it into the comments.
- Chris Nixon
Person-centric is probably a better user experience, but link-centric is very attractive to content producers. Especially if they can search for links to their domain.
- engtech
One thing I would *love* is if FF unrolled tinyurls, feedburner links, etc. That would be necessary for link-centric
- engtech
I like the exploration of ideas. However, I echo @HutchCarpenter's concern regarding the echo-chamber. Would my friendfeed be cluttered? Woulid I have to wade through gigantic posts such as this one where a ton of people have shared, liked, or commenting on the same link? Would I lose my current feeling of community if I was sucked into a massive conversation? Would interesting tid-bits get lost and scrolled by to fast by these compilations of linking behaviour?
- Seek Ground
I have concerns about the merging of different comment streams (in the link-centric model). The same item from different people will have different subsets of people commenting, depending on the poster's friends. Different people will see different comments depending on their friend graph, their hiding preferences, etc., thus it would be hard to maintain a coherent conversation.
- Mihai Parparita
Interesting point Mihai
- Alejandro
Great idea - and it should be user-configurable all over the place. I post links to every article I write for InformationWeek in at least three places that FriendFeed picks up. As a FriendFeed producer, I should be able to configure my FriendFeed to designate which item is authoritative for duplicate links. And as a consumer I should be able to designate which source is authoritative for *others'* FriendFeeds, as well as whether to filter on a per-user or per-link basis (i.e. do I see same link from 2+ ppl)
- Mitch Wagner
To the FriendFeed folks. While you do listen to us, please also feel free to ignore us. Overall, I'm quite happy with the FF UI. I also trust that you're smarter than me and I look forward to the FFFuture.
- Mike Reynolds
I would love this!! Its a must have these days! Even I would go one more step further and say, it should combine same URL from more than one party (say person X and Y both dug same URL, why should discussion/comment/likes be different??) and combine them all!
- Jigar Mehta
cool idea, then it become a question of aggregating based on link vs. description, and it is nice to have all comments in one place. however, would it increase backend requirements that could slow ff down? i love the reliability and speed of ff now, (unlike twitter).
- Pokai
Well, in a way this will decrease the load on the system.. Imagine 100 duplicate stories being commented and liked (ff servers will get to maintain all of them and load them when user requests).. And also I, as a user will get to see more proper items on my page! (Say for example, i am not interested in a particular story which is shared by three different people in my network, I will...
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- Jigar Mehta
Well thought out and illustrated. Person-centric extends the current FF experience. Link-centric would make me feel like FF is turning into something like Digg...
- tagami
These are both great ideas. I'm not really sure whether I'd prefer the person-centric or link-centric models (maybe that should be a user preference?) but I do feel either one would help a lot with the duplication.
- Jason Wehmhoener
amen. especially with resharing going on. Hell, I wouldn't have had to write this comment twice if that were the case!
- Tim Hoeck
Very interesting proposal Bret.
- fbrunel
How about making it group-centric? Every additional person that submits the same link is added to the "likes" list... and just keep comments fragmented
- Rafael Robayna
And now this functionality is live! Cool.
- Hutch Carpenter
thinking of the many really nice people I have met through social computing and comparing the hit rate with the face to face alternatives.
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This has struck home for me many times: I've met more interesting people via social media than any other way, including face-to-face. Imagine what we can do with this fact when we stop doing it accidentially and start doing it intentionally. :-)
- Dion Hinchcliffe
from twhirl
I'm still not getting it. While I have met a bunch of great folks online (including my husband), it still doesnt compare to the face-to-face. Take Louis, for example. I liked him much better after actually meeting him.
- Cyndy
Couldn't agree more, Euan. Particularly with a large part of the group I interact with inline being in Europe and the US, with me in Australia, social computing has allowed me to meet (many in the flesh at conferences, etc.) some amazing people who all pass the "would I have a beer with them outside of work" test.
- Stephen Collins
Also strongly agree. On my recent trip to London, Twitter was absolutely a serendipity multiplier. How else to meet the real @monkchips ;-)
- Doug Neal
Cindy I didn't actually say that being with people online was better than face to face though in some cases I think that even this is true too!
- Euan
"Here are a few strategies suggested by experts to encourage innovation that might surprise you: Hire..." - http://steph.tumblr.com/post...
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FriendFeed Blog: Get a room! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
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Mitchell Tsai, gmarketer, CJ and 65 other people liked this
"It started when we wanted a better way to share feature ideas and product plans with each other here at FriendFeed, but not the rest of the world -- a mini FriendFeed of our own. We could have set this up on its own machine in the office, but we knew that we weren't alone in our desire and that the right way to go was to extend FriendFeed's capabilities for everyone. And so FriendFeed rooms were born."
- Paul Buchheit
I really dig on features I didn't know I needed or wanted until I saw them. Excellent work!
- Akiva Moskovitz
This is rad. And a half.
- Ginger Makela Riker
This is just.... I'm at a loss for words. I can't wait to see how people use this.
- Mark Trapp
Agreed - there's a lot of potential here. I can see this becoming useful for business as well. Which is how the FriendFeed guys were using it.
- Hutch Carpenter
very cool! awesome work paul and team. can't wait to start building my friendfeed house of rooms!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
this is so slick! Congrats. Really cool!
- Thomas Hawk
Oh thank goodness... Twitter moaning? Get a room!
- Vince DeGeorge
can't wait to geek out on the UI, but extra happy that a mainstream feature is making friendfeed less geeky for the masses. bravo.
- karl dotter
Liiiiiiiiike!!!
- April Buchheit
Great stuff!
- Aviv
very interesting. totally see the "commercial" aspect of that one. I need to think how that fits for the rest of geekdom.
- Rob Diana
Nice!! : )
- Selim Yoruk
Blew my mind a little bit. It is such a fantastic 'App' for friendfeed data and the friendfeed collection methods. Really excited about this. Maybe one of the first real community groups I use.
- Caleb Elston
Question: How can i integrate a rss to my room? I plan to use it for my blip.fm feed.
- Selim Yoruk
API request: authenticated Profile fetches should list the rooms the user manages or is a member of
- Aviv
Sounds pretty good. Though as a corollary, would it be possible to simply divide feeds without having to invite people into something? Is there a way to do that already and I just don't know? Make literally a "friend feed" plus a "stranger feed"... because, regardless of titular function of this site, I've ended up following a number of people I don't know. (Which has turned out to be one of the great bonus parts of this awesome service!)
- Ňicķ
Will have to look in to this...
- Colin Walker
Damn.....This made me remember the discussion about the new web been all about more "private" interactions between groups of friends.
- Gadiel Rivera
After playing with it for a few minutes, I really hope Friendfeed doesn't shift from being about who you follow to what rooms you belong to. I'd hate to miss out on an interesting discussion in Social_Media4122 when I joined SocialMedia1231. I think that's one of the worst features of Facebook. Here's hoping that Friendfeed doesn't go that way!
- Mark Trapp
Mark, I doubt that. Many times I've found myself wanting to share things that would only be interesting to, say, my wife. I don't want to clutter up everyone's FF with that. I see rooms as ways of helping shape the noise.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Mark Trapp - that thought occurred to me as well. Maybe I can make sure public rooms feed into my Friends tab?
- Hutch Carpenter
Mark, interesting concern... in a way this means FF is no longer "flat" - and elite groups are inevitable, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and if users begin to feel "left out".
- Aviv
This is exactly what this service needed. Awesome. Curious though... Cannot create a room with my user name?
- Andrew Smith
Hutch, yeah maybe: or if you're part of a public room, and you comment or like something, that item now appears in your feed just like Mark Trapp (friend of Yogi Bear) posted a Link (Yogi Bear liked this) does. As this gains more traction, I think I'm going to be more and more looking for the "Join every public room available, but only show me posts that my friends posted" option, which is just Friendfeed without rooms. I'm sure there's some sort of happy medium.
- Mark Trapp
This was what I thought you'd be launching :)
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
Was there a specific reason for not listing public rooms on the main page?
- Mark Krynsky
@Mark Trapp - the rooms do show up in your regular feed. Just saw this with the Post Twit-Out Room.
- Hutch Carpenter
Cool Hutch, looks like they already did what I mentioned :) The only other thing I think what would make rooms even more killer is some sort of content discovery, which i mentioned in my other comment about handling it like friends of friends. I'm definitely sipping the kool-aid on this now.
- Mark Trapp
Another question - where's the list of public rooms? I'll hunt around, but someone may already know.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm worried about the namespace problem and how fractured conversations on particular topics might get.
- Sam Pullara
room for friendfeed rooms: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- ben bloch
Sam, I think it's one of those things you have to try and see how it plays out. More thoughts: will we be seeing too many overlapping rooms? What happens when our friends ask us to join "Funny Stuff", then "Funny stuff on YouTube", then "Funny emails", then "Funny videos". Would I want to post a link to all those rooms? Will duplicates be a bigger issue now that the same item can be found in many rooms? I think the key will be for each of us to be somewhat picky as to which rooms we join.
- Aviv
How very meta, Ben. ;-)
- Jordan Hofker
@Friendfeed Team: Please add a 'hide'ing option for -only- room posts for users.
- Erhan Erdogan
Friendfeed rooms will be killer. Friendfeed has already shown much better interaction than facebook. This could be *the* final groups platform.
- Meryn Stol
do rooms persist forever? Can they be destroyed?
- Phil G
ff rooms: "mahalo guide pages for the l337" ?
- Deva Hazarika
Please add ability to auto-invite all friends to a new room you create or allow friends list with checkboxes. Current invite method is cumbersome.
- Mark Krynsky
One word: AWESOME!
- Bartek Ciszkowski
Now what we need is "automatic resharing". I'd like to send anything that says "Fast Company" to my FastCompany.tv room, for instance. Right now I have to manually "reshare" each item.
- Robert Scoble
Oooh Automatic resharing feature: multiple post to multiple groups...oh my God it is going to get exponentially noisy in here! *dizzzzzy*
- Susan Beebe
@Aviv: then you get friendfeed houses..
- Amund Tveit
how can I search for rooms?
- karl dotter
Aviv, the API is updated and now includes room membership with the profile requests.
- Paul Buchheit
Great, thanks!
- Aviv
А научите меня *правильно* пользоваться тегами... Пожалуста!
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Поймай меня завтра в офисе, попробую пересказать свое понимание )
- Kolomeetz
А что и где тебе непонятно?
- Кто здесь?
Hakuna Matata - а написать и выложить у себя в блоге не получится? мне было бы интересено почитать еще один подход - спасибо.
- ideali
Если завтра-послезавтра поговорим с Teine, то вполне возможно, что и опубликую где-нибудь. У меня, как обычно, хорошего собеседника для хорошего текста не хватает.
- Kolomeetz
Договорились!
- Teinett
А непонятно мне, по какому принципу расставлять теги (метки, категории) так, чтобы ими потом было удобно пользоваться. Например, на Делишезе теги на английском языке и на русском, в единственном числе и множественном, в различных написаниях (с дефисами, слитно). Опять же, метки нужно делать для себя или для других (ты ведь на социальном сервисе).
- Teinett
Эй, я тоже хочу об этом поговорить! :)
- Universal Mind[who?]
Нужно ли писать все варианты написания, чтобы они были доступны всем при любом запросе, или же так, как ты для себя решил и как тебе удобно. Нужно ли писать только ключевые упоминающиеся в описании слова, или пытаться описать сам предмет, или же вообще всю типовую ситуацию, когда тебе может понадобиться ссылка.
- Teinett
А при поиске: как можно задать всю группу похожих тегов, чтобы добиться максимального охвата интересующей темы, как не отойти от искомого и не хватить лишнего.
- Teinett
Выражаясь "лесными" терминами, как производить меньше "ваты" и работать самой продуктивно, чтобы потом тратить меньше времени на поиски виденной когда-то информации.
- Teinett
@Teine: проблемы решаются так: http://spectator.ru/technol...
- β-Кот Шредингера
@artreal: «так» проблемы не решаются, а создаются. Там ни слова о пользовании существующими теговыми системами, о чем, собственно, и был вопрос.
- Urbansheep
@teine: для себя или для других: если тема личная, то легко можно начинать с «для себя». Во всех остальных вариантах лучше использовать существующие — проще привыкнуть к готовому. ¶ Все варианты писать незачем: если есть основной (который чаще встречается и более тебе понятен), этого достаточно. ¶ Если есть сомнения, делать надо для себя, а не для других. Если же нет своей системы — ориентируйся на толпу, и дополняй её.
- Urbansheep
@teine: при поиске: поиск устроен по-своему в каждом отдельном сервисе. Обычно никак не задать.
- Urbansheep
@urbansheep, если не слепо копировать методику, то вполне решаются
- β-Кот Шредингера
@artreal: если не слепо копировать методику, то вообще всё всегда работает лучше. (Иными словами, ваше пояснение ничего не поясняет.)
- Urbansheep
@urbansheep, там хорошо показано, как работает хозяйство тегов на проектах (с учетом неоднозначностей); вникаем, думаем, используем эти знания. Кстати, рассмотренная там методика может работать в голове
- β-Кот Шредингера
@artreal: Суммируете в одном предложении рассмотренную там методику, м?
- Urbansheep
нет, наверное; в этом сезоне у меня теги в немилости
- β-Кот Шредингера
У меня тоже теги «в немилости». Что не мешает про них думать и писать
- Kolomeetz
@kolomeetz: меня сейчас больше беспокоит, как перейти на "более высокий уровень"; а теги... они как-то "к земле тянут :(
- β-Кот Шредингера
на делишезе я стараюсь делать очень мало тегов - это помогает мне быстро находить потом информацию (я помню что куда засунула). как социальный сервис я делишез не воспринимаю - имхо, там слишком много мусора, чтобы тратить время на разгрёб. один раз я попробовала использовать делишез для накопления "хороших ссылок по узкой теме", по завершении работы с темой написала список лучших ссылок с аннотациями. мне очень понравилось, некоторым другим, вроде, тоже: http://orie.livejournal.com/750550...
- orie
ну и с блогом аналогично: стремлюсь к тому, чтобы тегов было мало
- orie
@kolomeetz: мы так и не пересеклись... :(
- Teinett
Ты на Самокат сегодня не собира?
- Kolomeetz
Ten FriendFeed Visitors Beats 1,000 StumbleUpons Any Day - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...
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Interviews with different folks on writing
- zephoria
I'm frightened of friend feed - how much information can we create/consume and retain sanity?
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I think that FF is giving me a huge information overload .... and I like it !
- Christopher Yeo
Beware, I'm stalking you ;-)
- Andreas Gohr
you can't which is the point. the faster you engage, the sooner hopefully we get to better tools because everybody will get frightened! ;)
- Nicole Simon
I think FriendFeed is a tool for reducing information overload, if used as such.
- Mike Reynolds
One of the key things of FF is information management. Some good scripts here: http://ffapps.com
- engtech
can you really be afraid of friend feed, but be an active user of twitter?
- Rob Diana
I think we are not aware of the load of information we are spreading and consuming... and it will only become more. ...via AlertThingy
- Jan van Iperen
Пока не завела фф, не отдавала себе отчет в том, что урбаншипа СТОЛЬКО.
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Нда...
- Urbansheep
=)
- Jinger
если знать где искать, концентрация сильно повышается :)
- earlyadopter
отдавая себе отчёт, _сколько_ урбаншипа, никогда не читал данного персонажа регулярно, пока не завёл frf :)
- 9000
Поржал, спасибо.
- Urbansheep
Rules of Play: Game Design Fundamentals - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp...
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Does anyone know if there is a way to aggregate all of your blog site tracking tools (e.g. Google Analytics, FeedBurner, etc.)?
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Excel. No, I am not kidding. You can send GA per Mail (which you can combine with other ways to make that an automated task), with FB you need to export manually, but then you just wipp it together in Excel. Maybe another spreadsheet, but for this kind of task you need a REAL spreadsheet program. ;)
- Nicole Simon
@nicole - ugh, too many hoops still ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
there is no automation afaik for the download of feedburner; GA you can automate as a one click into excel. given, it will take you a bit to set that up, but it will work then. I can see feedburner data to be integrated sooner or later in analytics; and of course you can go into raw data of your log files. ;)
- Nicole Simon
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