I'm not sure that I'd for sure name it best (it's kind of unfair to compare all different sorts of TV shows together in one category), but it's certainly the one I return to over and over and over again. (Too bad not all of the seasons were of equal quality, though.)
- Spidra Webster
Part of the impact of West Wing was the marked contrast between Josiah Bartlett's administration and the real-life version under Bush and Cheney.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
That may account for some of its popularity, Mark, but I think West Wing was popular for what marks a lot of Sorkin shows: excellent dialogue, fantastic mix of comedy and drama, supernal ensemble casting...and the extra for West Wing was being able to geek out over all that governmental stuff. The dialogue was so thick with it that repeat viewings reward you. Takes several times seeing an ep before you really feel you've gotten everything out of it.
- Spidra Webster
Without looking at other answers: Homicide, particularly the first year.
- AJ Kohn
First season of Miami Vice... unfadeable baby!
- Adrian
The West Wing was so awesome I remember bit characters. Like the guy in records or something who had the best line ever. "Well you're a strange little frumpy man, aren't you?" Of all the series I've loved, this one lasts the longest.
- Heather
People are so serious about their TV! People are yelling at me on Twitter, too! Geez. LOL
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
None of the above. But. Mad Men is climbing the charts fast. Still. WW is in the stratosphere, and nothing will touch it.
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
I've been watching it again on DVD. In fact, watching it right now... Jean-Paul just spiked her drink, Tae Diggs is talking to a bunch of folks about to get it... uh oh... aaaaand.... poor Molly...
- Ken Sheppardson
Plus most of the rest that ya'll listed. Good picks! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
better than TWW: Arrested Development, Futurama, Veronica Mars, The Simpsons (uh, stopping somewhere between end of season 9 and season 12 at the latest), 30 Rock, Community, and Newsradio. Action, Pushing Daisies, and Life, too if we can sneak in those shows that were "cancelled before their time". Buffy up to S5 but not past it. Esp considering the relative doldrums of TWW s3 - s6.
- Andrew C
That's easy, 24 and X-Files are far better. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Guess I'm just one of those peeps who think the west wing was boring. Couldn't get through an episode. Was more interested in ER at the time.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
from Android
Rome series 1, BSG reimagined, Sportsnight, Buffy, Farscape, Magnum PI, Red Dwarf, Thundar the Barbarian, Underdog, M.A.S.H., Password, What's My Line?, I Love Lucy, The Carol Burnett Show all rank pretty high with me. I'm sure I missed some. Loved West Wing in doses, but it became taxing for me to watch.
- Michael W. May
West Wing is a tough show to compare shows to. As far as must watch TV: Damages, Flash Forward, Rescue Me, Dark Blue, Fringe, Lie To Me... This would be easier if I was near my DVR!
- amarquart
The West Wing might be my FAVORITE series but I think the BEST series was The Wire.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Good show, but best ever? Don't think so. The Wire and Rome, for instance, are way better. Heroes Season 1 (only), Kings, The Black Donnellys, Babylon 5, New BSG before season 4 are some more. Andrew C names a bunch more that I agree with.
- Chieze Okoye
Buffy the Vampire Slayer. (sorry, @Ha3rvey.)
- edythe
from iPhone
Nobody's mentioned The Greatest American Hero? *sings* Believe it or not, I'm walking on air. I never thought I could feel so freeeee-eeeeee-eeeee!
- Jason Huebel
Rational, Twitter usage is flattening, people are finally figuring out that Twitter sucks for having a conversation. People though Friendfeed was hard to use, try having to install several software 'crutches' to be able to use Twitter productively without even half the functionality as Freindfeed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Either this is tounge in cheek or Robert really hasn't gotten over our breakup... Robert, I hope we can still be friends but we have to move on and grow... FriendFeed will always love you, but we need some 'us' time to find out who 'we' are... *cues The Bodygaurd soundtrack*... *walks out into the rain, adjusts collar, walks off down the road*... *fade to black, credits*
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Comment bait. Even Robert can't generate interest these days.
- Russellreno
I agree. Friendfeed is for those who need more from a 2d interface. Until there spatial interface is there, Friendfeed is on top of the pyramid (especially when one knows how to use it best).
- Kirill Bolgarov
Lets hope so ... Miss some of my old peeps :)
- Charlie Anzman
I'm surprised Robert made this statement but I find it very interesting in the change of view and wonder what has changed his mind or if he knows more info.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
The unpredictably erratic Scobot is at it again...
- Ciro
Well, after glancing at his Twitter timeline, he's just making a bunch of joke predictions. I'd like to think that there's some truth in this one though...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Sniffs... Do you smell that? It's what we used to call a troll. Robert is getting dangerously close to becoming irrelevent.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Robert is waiting until 2010 to respond to this thread. :)
- Louis Gray
Scoble - I disagree ONLY because I think that FriendFeed activity is already migrating to Facebook via deeper integration over there but I'm wiling to hear you out (as are the other 40+ people commenting here). Do share why you think this is true?
- Aaron Strout
I wrote this tweet for Twitter, not for FriendFeed. But nice to see you all! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Jason: I'm definitely irrelevant if the people calling me irrelevant don't even have 1,000 subscribers. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I actually see FriendFeed growing instead of slowing and there will also be new enhancements. A testing ground for Facebook. Just to expand, Robert's still the man!
- amarquart
Akiva wins the internets with this mathematical formula for spotting comment bait.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
You think we're fighting, I think we're finally talking! -all in one page
- Tim Jones
Funny, when I write, I write for everyone, everywhere
- Johnny Worthington
@Jason Williams, wow that's the pot calling the kettle black, doncha think? Robert's not a troll.
- Jason Huebel
@Kol, somebody mentioned that those stats often only consider US visitors (why that would be, I don't know). FF's non-US contingent has grown tremendously, so that graph may not show the whole picture.
- Jason Huebel
I'm finding that FriendFeed is fiendishly sticky. On Twitter lists do help, they make twitter better and all but but but-but I think a lot of users are getting more sophisticated in their web usage faster than Twitter can evolve their tech. Louis Grey recently postulated that even if there is no interaction on FriendFeed it makes complete sense to stay riding this horse. That got me...
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- JSLeFanu
Dude..... I totally hope you're right, but not too sure about this! LOL Explain your rationale please :)
- Susan Beebe
i agree with the original prediction. by the way, what's a resurgence? is it different than insurgents? :-)
- Morgan Haley
Morgan - the insurgents never left ... ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
to all my lovely friendfeed and twitter people that have known me for a while, i apologize. all i was doing was trimming the tree with my family. i had not been on twitter for a few hours and i apologize for anything and everything, those of you who know me, know im a quiet respectful person and i value each and everyone of you.
Understandable Glad you got your venting out tho.. I would be super P if my twitter got hack by a ex too.. Some people just need to grow up and respect everone but some do not.
- Fireman17
Holy molybdenum, I hope everything is ok. I missed the situation, but looking back, something serious went down. I hope you'll shake it off and be in good spirits.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
:hugs: exes are never easy to deal with. sorry to hear about all the strife, and I hope that all gets better soon. much luv and happy holidays!
- Cardeen Martinez
Yes, 'Real Life' has a serious effect on social media productivity....
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Priorities around the holidays simply changes peoples' routines from what I see. Some engage differently and some prioritize real life higher and shift into more focused personal mode.
- Ken Camp
yes, it's quiet cos people are offline for meatspace events. like holding their kids and singing with them. or eating in a room without a video screen.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Going to get my hair cut. It's quiet here too.
- Robert Scoble
Will you detail every minute of the haircut? Cause, you know, it will be quiet if you're doing other things and not making noise...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
i say we requests at +1000 button like Jennifer mentioned. this post is deserving of at least that much 'plussy-ness'
- Morgan Haley
While we're working on the +1000 button, I'm mentally plotting how I might shoe-horn peanut butter cookie dough into such a recipe. Or make ice-cream sandwiches out of them.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Awwww.... glad I cold help guys. It was the ffeeders (and the food in my belleh) that did it.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
that is a total hollywood-worthy smile. you should be in commercials or something that pays for a great smile. call your agent. tell him/her to get busy!
- Morgan Haley
I don't know all that much about it, actually. I got a message on LinkedIn from a recruiter asking me if I knew anyone that had a fairly niche-y skill set since I was in the Greenville area. I responded that *I* did but might not have the length of experience the client required and offered a suggestion of where he could advertise the position. Apparently that was enough to get him to actually look at my profile and he'd like to talk to me about it...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck! I hope that once you talk with the recruiter, you both find that you're a good fit!
- vicster is...
If it's the position I think it is, I know it's something I can do. I just have to get my foot in the door and prove it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck with the interview tomorrow. Hopefully, it will result in an early Christmas present!
- Anne Bouey
I hope so Anne! Turns out my dad's pre-test interview for therapy got shifted back tomorrow morning so I have to do that first. If I wind up playing phone tag with the gent about the job again, I'm going to offer to meet up with him over lunch. Nothing like tasty noms to put someone in the hiring mood!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hope this goes well - fingers are still crossed!
- WorldofHiglet
Well, I played phone tag with the gent earlier today but just got done with a 27 minute phone conversation with him. He seemed intrigued (and specifically complimented my phone demeanor) and is sending me more information about the position. I'm not exactly qualified for it per se, but I know it's something I can do well. My job at this point is to make myself look like an undiscovered gem *shines her facets*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sounds promising - I really hope they snap you up. And, if I may say so, your facets are looking particularly alluring today....
- WorldofHiglet
You've been discovered now; he just doesn't know what kind of gem he's found yet. Shine!
- Anne Bouey
What does it say about my sons that their block buster Christmas gift, the one they will be most excited about, this year is a collection of books? - http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Com...
The Complete Calvin and Hobbes is their big gift, and I think they will be very excited. It is just interesting that they are at an age where most of what they will recieve is either a book or a game. I think they've read most of Calvin and Hobbes already, but this edition will make sure they haven't missed anything
- RAPatton
I wonder if I should put some of my book tokens towards that...
- Pete
Funny, my wish list is all books and games and I'm 31!
- Kyle Hebert
Exactly, Kyle; they are growing up.
- RAPatton
from iPhone
My kids LOVE Calvin and Hobbes. LOVE. They sit there reading them for hours. Actually, the voice that my oldest son uses to read the part of Calvin is quite annoying. :-D
- Jason Huebel
Cause these books are AWESOME and they have good taste.
- Santa CW™
It means your sons are the big awesome! LOVE!!!!
- Mary Carmen
I'd really like to get my hands on the Peanuts collections. The early stuff is so different than the late stuff.
- Spidra Webster
That they are as awesome as my girls who read the Calvin & Hobbes books reapeatedly for several years. And that they will have an enhanced vocabulary as a result.
- Rochelle Rochelle
My wife's been buying me these kinds of collections for Christmas for a few years now. I've got this one, The Far Side and a good chunk of the early Peanuts.
- J Wynia
I was always most excited about the books that I received at the holidays. Good for you and them.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Thanks for the support guys. I am not actually all that sad. My budget will change, but you cannot put a price on your peace of mind. :)
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Terrible timing! Wish they'd move the heavy-gifting holidays to a fiscally more stable time of year!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
No. They did not. I was joking about that, but I have a lot of material to draw from with which to write a scathing tell-all about the company and call it the Devil Wears RSA4400 or something. :D
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
damn. i was hoping to find out about the company underbelly. you tease!
- tiffany
Wow. Sorry to hear that. How stressful. :/
- Rochelle
oh, you'll still hear about it. i just won't have to be cloak and dagger about it
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Dang, sorry to hear it, Mo. I know you'll land on your feet though. You always do.
- Derrick
Dang, but still, glad you've got peace of mind, Mo. Here's to new opportunities right around the corner! And I'd like to preorder my copy of The Devil Wears RSA4400, please.
- Ayşe E.
Oh, man. That stinks, Monique. I'm glad you've got the right attitude about it. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help. (If you'd like to talk, I can handle that, too.)
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
I just can't believe you didn't take the opportunity to cuss anyone out...LOL. I'm *still* trying to get my job to fire me so I can drop that ether...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well crud. :-( I mean, congrats on your freedom and all, but, well I guess there really isn't a good time to get the speech/letter. Let us all know how we can help.
- vicster is...
I'm sorry to hear that. I was unemployed for 6 months this year too.
- LANjackal
Reading this, I'm guessing you weren't really feeling the place anyway. So I say here's to forging ahead to new opportunities and dreams and all that jazz. I know you got hustle so I'm not even worried about you. Press on.
- Lynne d Johnson
Any company that would fire someone right before Christmas is not worth working for. You'll find something better, I'm sure.
- Rick Cogley
"Brian Bonsall once played adorable baby-of-the-family Andy Keaton on Family Ties; now he’s a druggie who was recently arrested for assaulting a friend with a bar stool—but not all former child stars head down that ugly path. The Frisky rounds up 10 who managed to keep it together"
- chaz2b
from Bookmarklet
Neck tattoos are just so disgusting. :(
- Rochelle
D's got sleeves?!?! TROUBLE! I like the Band of Horses frontman and he has neck tattoos. Looks good on him. And my friend has a neck tattoo - barcode of his favorite book Nietzsche..and he's hot...
- Anna Lynn M.
I only have like a sleeve and a half...maybe three quarters.
- Derrick
Is fully sleeved + chest + full backpiece, with tattoos behind my ears (one creeps down to visibility on my neck). I r not disgusting :(
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I have sleeves, chest work, and a few 'hidden' tattoos. I'm the man your mother warned you about though.
- Sparky
from iPhone
Sorry Archangel and Sparky, I was agreeing when referencing child actors.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Is okay. I compensate by looking healthy & agreeable and not like a meth head ;)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Sparky, hidden where?! I've seen you, uh, nude, and never noticed any in suspicious places.
- Rochelle
Rochelle - you clearly didn't look close enough ;)
- Sparky
Another good example is Elijah Wood who got into acting when he was 8 or so. And, on that same tip, Sean Astin who got into it at 10.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And tis the season to acknowledge Peter Billingsley, irresponsible handler of the Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle and executive producer of Dinner for Five among other things Hollywoodish.
- Christopher Harley
His grin is exactly the same now as it was when he was a kid. It's really weird to see.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It's because Cards fans forget how horrid they were for...4 decades? 5? And now they think they're the best thing since Kurt Warner's flattop.
- Mike Nayyar
Yeah, I'm going to call it the Patriots Syndrome for when an NFL team turns all smarmy (although none are more smarmy than the smarmy Steelers).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Darn it, SAM....you had to bring up the Rams. Must be the worst record in the league.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Why the Redskins? Just curious as I'm from DC... although I never cared about football.
- Lis Miller
Mathew, yep. You certainly have something to be embarrassed about when the Lions are doing better than you.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Lis, just programmed bias from being raised a Cowboys fan.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The Steelers just finished a great game against Green Bay. Even if you dislike a team, you have to root for a great finish like that. BOOM. 500+ yards for Roethlisberger.
- Louis Gray
I think many would be surprised how many times they've seen films with her in it: http://www.imdb.com/name... she blended into a cast; was an actress. Thoughts and prayers for her family and friends.
- Michael W. May
I work all the way through Christmas Eve, baby; I'll take off at noon and then return in the new year, after I return from the Rose Bowl
- RAPatton
I work mon- wed then off until Jan 4
- holly
from iPhone
I work Monday, then I'm out until the 29th.
- ÉllbeeÇee
I'm working monday through thursday dayshifts.
- Beau Liening
My schedule is like Holly's. Our library in-service day is on Tuesday. For the most part, I'll be "working" Tuesday and Wednesday. On Monday the archives is open, and I know at least one person is probably coming.
- Laura B.
I am working Mon, Wed and Thursday. Had a personal day I needed to take before the end of the year.
- aden
I'm "working from home" *cough* on Monday... off until the 4th after that.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Working Monday if the snow clears, otherwise a personal day. Working Tues-Weds. Unpaid furlough day Thurs, off Christmas. Furlough day New Years Eve. yay.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Assuming the snow goes away before Wednesday, I'm supposed to work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, but then I'm off until Jan 4. My wife is supposed to work Monday, Tuesday and half a day Wednesday.
- Curtiss Grymala
from iPhone
Mr has to work mon & tues. He'll drive home tues night.
- R1CC1
I work every work day except Christmas.
- Derek Coward
I'm working five hours each day Monday to Thursday, Christmas Day off and then four hours on Boxing Day (wooo double time and a half)
- Bryce Roney
Working full days Mon/Tues, a half day Wed, off for Christmas Eve and Christmas, as well as the weekend. Then it's the same for the following week (though I was originally going to have it off), with days off on New Years Eve and New Years Day.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
I do and am grateful....at least, I hope I get to work. ;)
- Melanie Reed
i do! monday through wednesday. it's ok, though, as i expect it to be very quiet, so i should be able to finish a project i've been dragging my feet on.
- Katie
At work! And not a single customer for the first hour. :( Gonna be a long day.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Takes 6 months for bed bugs that are living to run out of food and move to the top, Rec ev 6 months or new pillow top ev 2 months or new mattress every 6 months Or just learn to love bed bugs EWWW!
- RetiredTeacherD
Hmmmm....a pillow top would keep from going to the laundrymat to wash and dry the faux pillow top that was sold to me as a mattress pad.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Can bed bugs climb up the legs of the frame the box spring is on?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
SCAM ALERT! Women often receive warnings about protecting themselves at the mall and in dark parking lots, etc. This is the first warning I have seen for men. I wanted to pass it on in case you haven't heard about it. This will only become more commonplace as the Christmas shopping season begins.
A 'heads up' for those men who may be regular Home Depot, or Costco customers. This one caught me by surprise. Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends.
- Mistletoe Glen
Here's how the scam works: Two seriously good-looking, 20-something girls come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into your vehicle. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible not to look. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say 'No' and instead ask you for a...
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- Mistletoe Glen
I had my wallet stolen on the 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th, three times last Monday and very likely again this upcoming weekend. Tell your friends to be careful. What a horrible way to take advantage of older men! Warn your friends to be vigilant. Fred Meyer has wallets on sale for $2.99 each. I found cheaper ones for $1.99 at Wal-Mart and bought them out.
- Mistletoe Glen
Also, you never will get to eat at McDonalds. I've already lost 11 pounds just running back and forth to Home Depot, and Costco
- Mistletoe Glen
everyone has to be on the alert at ALL times
- VAL D. Zone
I'm downloading a phone app right now so I can know the locations to, ummmm... watch out for. Yeah, that's the ticket.
- Chrimmus Tad
*wondering if I can get any of my FF crushes to perpetrate this scam on me* Wait, what?
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
two girls actually tried this on me at a bar once... they took off running and i ended up catching them down the block around the corner... when i got my wallet back they got good smack on the bottom!
- Chris Heath
I tend to be very wary of these roadside trucks etc...
- Ian May
So no phatty veggie burritoes on Shakedown Street, eh? ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I tend to avoid them yeah! I don't tend to eat out in that way much really. We usually eat at home, or sometimes we go to a restaurant, but very seldom stop at a street vendor like that.
- Ian May
I suppose around the time it became fashionable to hike about and get lost ;)
- Renee Hendricks
I have gotten sort of lost on purpose but it was a controlled experiment. Keep the mountain on the right and the river on the left sort of lost. It was fun getting down the incline when we realized it was getting dark in a hurry. As to boots, they are almost 100% more expensive than ten years ago. Boo. :(
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mental note... take pic of the chili and crawfish po' boy at Slim's in Seattle to send back to Memphis folks. We do get some good southern food in the NW.
I didn't know you had southern roots, SAM. My folks and the bulk of my family is in/from Memphis. Haven't been back in years. And totally cosigning on good southern food.
- Derrick
Woah. What's all this then? Slim's? Details, man! I need details!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was born in Memphis, but grew up mostly in SE Missouri. My folks are now back here. (Untill we can convince them to move up to Spokane.) Heading up to St. Louis tomorrow to visit more friends and family for a couple of days before coming back to Memphis.
- SAM
Derrick, want me to drop by and pick up a care package from anybody to bring back for our Portland meet up?
- SAM
Stuff like that almost makes me want to give up not eating beef.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Pit stop on the way to St. Louis... Danny's in Sikeston MO for THE BEST smoked chicken wings for lunch tomorrow. This trip is full of win in the food department.
- SAM
I used to and brisket was one of my favorites.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Aw. Imma tell you a secret: you havent had MY brisket. juicy and tender sweet. An easy cut to mess up if you do it wrong, though - it can be tough as hell.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I think it's because my family is from Memphis and our BBQ always revolved around pork and chicken. We actually didn't eat a lot of beef at all outside of hamburger. And now I want some slow braised baby back ribs. I might have to go to the store.
- Derrick
I'm not a BBQ beef fan, either, Derrick. And I don't think I've ever tasted brisket.
- Laura B.
Just eat the brisket gravy, I love that and I don't like to eat meat.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
OMG...and I thought I knew you!!! :(
- JA Castillo
Don't y'all realize how much brisket is now available for you!?! And I don't hate it, but I eat it and I'm always like, meh. BRING ON THE PROK.
- Derrick
Pork is the only REAL barbecue, it's true. Anything else may be smoked or grilled, may be served with bbq sauce, and may even be really tasty. But it's not barbecue. To call it such is blasphemy, rank heresy, and an abomination unto the Lord. [IOW, Derrick, I agree. :-) ]
- Ladybug Heather
Pork and Chicken are the only real meats you can bbq.
- Chrimmus Tad
Anyone who says that only one kind of meat is the 'real' BBQ shows a serious lack of creativity and imagination. What a very narrow-minded person that must be. How sad!
- Akiva Moskovitz
LOL. You grow up in the Deep South and the part of your reality tunnel that concerns BBQ becomes pretty opaque. :P
- Chrimmus Tad
I had to bing what it was and now I'm hungry...
- Jemm
Don't ever say that out loud in Texas, Derrick.
- Steven Perez
I love brisket, but I don't think it's the best thing ever by any means. Pork chops or sausage (as far as Texas BBQ) always trump brisket in my book.
- Josh Haley
I'm actually making brisket for Crimmuh dinner Derrick. You wouldn't eat it if I shared some?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Now I have the phrase 'BBQ TUNNEL' stuck in my head.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'd eat it, Barry, like I said I don't hate it...but I don't love it. And thanks, Jeff. I try.
- Derrick
from iPhone
Oh, you don't BBQ that! That gets done in the pressure cooker with lots of onions, some water, salt, and a little bit of cranberry juice. And when it comes out, in go the carrots (omg, the best carrots ever!) And then you make the awesome gravy. And of course, if it has awesome gravy it must have mashed potatoes to go with it. (crap...now I am regretting giving up beef. See what you did?)
- April Russo (app103)
Don't tell those Texas folks, April. They like their BBQ brisket.
- Derrick
Derrick honey, I...I just...look this just isn't working out anymore. Let's just make a clean break ok, rip the band-aid off and move on with our lives? It's not me, it's you.
- EricaJoy
What kind of brisket? There is a big difference between BBQ brisket and Jewish grandmother brisket. I love both
- Benjamin Golub
Seriously though, really? God I love some brisket thats been coated with a good dry rub, BBQ'd, then served with the north carolina style BBQ sauce (vinegar based, not that ketchup-y crap). Fak, now I'm hungry.
- EricaJoy
Benjamin, we hardly ate any brisket. Like I said, my Memphis-based family were much more smitten with pork. Erica, you know I'd go grab a meal with you anywhere. Might this make up for it? http://ff.im/d8new
- Derrick
And now I want some Bar-B-Q for breakfast. Thanks, Derrick. ;-) Brisket when prepared well should almost melt in one's mouth. I also vote for the NC style sauce.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
You're entitled to express your likes and dislikes. Others are entitled to disagree with you. Anyway on that basis most of the the US should block me, as I really do not like turkey.
- Ian May
cosigned really. i don't dislike brisket, but i won't break my neck to get it like i would for some ribs or pork shoulder.
- tiffany
I don't eat the little piggies. :( Swap that with beef ribs and I might have to drive down to LA. This is my not kidding face.
- EricaJoy
Haven't done beef ribs in awhile, Erica, but I suppose that delicious dry rub could be applied to that as well. I'll keep you posted. :) Tiff: *fist bump* I do want to try some of this well prepared brisket y'all have been talking about, and Ian, I suppose I can't judge you for not liking turkey, although it makes me cry a little on the inside. ;)
- Derrick
I...don't understand you anymore. I thought I knew you, Derrick Jefferson. You're obviously not the same man I fell in love with.
- Call me Bronco
I realize I'm late to the thread here, but you gotta do better than that, Derrick. Still love you, dude.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
from fftogo
As a BBQ snob the only thing I have to say here is: I don't care what kind of meat you cooked all day on the smoker, if you pre-sauce that mess before you serve it to me I will assume you're trying to hide subpar meat. For those that wonder, BBQ chicken (i.e. whole pieces sauced and cooked till the sauce glazes so nommily) is not the same as other BBQ and is exempt from the pre-sauce legislation.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Derrick, I am from NJ and could care less what they BBQ in Texas. They probably wouldn't take too kindly to one of my BBQ favs, either: Fresh tuna and whole roasted bell peppers. The tuna is brushed with Italian pepper butter before and during cooking. My Italian pepper butter recipe: http://momscookbook.blogspot.com/2004...
- April Russo (app103)
Hear, hear...that is the spirit, April! I love Q'ing fresh fish and veggies.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Well, at least most people in this thread seem to understand the difference between BBQ, smoking, and grilling. Everyone up here acts like it's all the same. What's worse is that some people are so delusional that they actually believe with all their hearts that gas grilling is better than charcoal. I mean. C'mon, already.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva: Who cares about semantics as long as it is meat and tastes good! :P~
- Jemm
Jemm, you have no respect for tradition! [shakes fist at the sky]
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gas grilling? Seriously? If I want to cook with gas, that's what I have the stove in my kitchen for.
- April Russo (app103)
How about electric grills? /ducks
- Jemm
from fftogo
DAMN IT THAT'S NOT BARBECUE APRIL, THAT'S GRILLING. my goodness! such blasphemy on the innanets.
- tiffany
I don't think I've had brisket before.
- Cheryl Jones
I have also had brisket cooked as a pot roast many times too. It cooks great in a slow cooker as well. There's more than one way to cook most things of course!
- Ian May
İ didnt know it was a crime well not a crime but at least a reason for someone to hate u or wanna block you if u dont like Brisket :))))) Or maybe there's a story behind all this and I dont have a clue LOL
- AxiDshe_
=( I HAZ A SORRY!!! I've been in a rather Grinchy mood the past week or so, plus I've been trying to wrap up the family drama before Christmas gets here. Otherwise I'm facing the prospect of three family Christmas-es rather than the normal two, and I don't know if my brain can handle that right now...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No need to apologize. We miss you. I have been a bit absent amidst my job searchings. It has been a bit difficult to find that Holiday spirit and cheer. But I persevered and did. Hope that both of you are well.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I miss her, too! I was just thinking about her yesterday.
- Rochelle
Well, there's the job search thing (which is demoralizing and dragging on forever and takes hours every day), plus the Christmas thing (which isn't as much fun when I don't have the funds to go find niftiness for my family), plus the family drama thing (which has the potential of just thoroughly trashing the holiday season). All in all I've been in about the worst possible mood and have just been stewing in my own misery for the past week or so. I'm trying to dig out of it, though... 2009 cannot win!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina I think Donuts and Coffee are in order. What are you doing tomorrow AM?
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Actually, I'm going to be on an interview call of sorts tomorrow morning, Gunny.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hear Hear, WoH. Hi, Tina. Sorry you're feeling Grinchy, but so understandable. ((Tina))
- Micah Wittman
Sorry you're having traumas, Tina. I hope it all resolves itself so you have a peaceful Christmas - we'll be waiting here with the LOLcats and funnies :)
- WorldofHiglet
"If you don't have enough evidence to charge someone criminally but you think he's illegal, we can make him disappear." Those chilling words were spoken by James Pendergraph, then executive director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Office of State and Local Coordination, at a conference of police and sheriffs in August 2008. Also present was Amnesty International's Sarnata Reynolds, who wrote about the incident in the 2009 report "Jailed Without Justice" and said in an interview, "It was almost surreal being there, particularly being someone from an organization that has worked on disappearances for decades in other countries. I couldn't believe he would say it so boldly, as though it weren't anything wrong."
- LogEx
from Bookmarklet
We sold our collective soul in an an orgy of post 911 hatred and fear and I don't know if we'll ever ever get over our cowardice to restore our constitution
- WarLord
I am afraid that I agree with Warlord's comment. We live in fear these days.
- Mathew A. Koeneker