Matthew I'm going to send you a request.
- Admiral Anika
Ack one day I'll actually get my XB360 hooked up to the LAN. Wish there were more hours in the day. I even have 3 mos of the "Gold" as part of the HD promo.
- mikepk
Thank you all, I've added and requested you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
ITBlogger Glad to see you bought a 360...you won't be disappointed. I sent you an invite.
- Alex Scoble
Actually I added everyone else too...so if you see a request to add ITBlogger, that would be me. Hopefully one of you has a higher gamerscore than me...I need a new goal. :)
- Alex Scoble
Amani, there was certainly a user with that username, added. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, added, thank you. Yes Xbox is great, my brother and I have been playing co-op Call of Duty, shame we have to start from the beginning every time - how can the publisher/developer have omitted that feature.
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, cool! Just got your request, and will respond as soon as I get back to the dashboard. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't think I'd use this system, but it's interesting nonetheless. I especially don't appreciate the fact that he deletes his personal email that is too conversational. Doesn't seem like a way to stay happy in your personal relationships.
- Mattie Kenny
Part of the reason Twitter succeeded was that they didn't have many super-smart engineers who rushed to add a bunch of features. They were almost forced to keep the site simple for many years..
There are techniques out there to slow things down if you have too many super-smart engineers. If three-martini lunches don't work, try making them use PHP.
- Bruce Lewis
for 3 years and they are making subtle changes.
- ashish
I think he's saying they didn't have too many really good chefs in the kitchen making you too much food.
- Mattie Kenny
from fftogo
Does that mean that super smart people tend to make changes in the system?
- ashish
Your comment sounds like a fact, but it's just an opinion right? I don't think the site's simplicity was an accident or just a case of Twitter not having enough SSE power. There's a post from 2005 from @Ev, with rule #1 "Focus on the smallest possible problem you could solve that would potentially be useful." http://evhead.com/2005... Seems like Twitter's gone out of their way to uphold that rule from the start.
- Adam Kazwell
This seems like a simplification of what could have happened..I feel simplicity was the only option because they were busy getting their back-end infrastructure right...resolving all those fail-whales in the initial stages must have taken a ton of effort...
- Mahesh CR
Adam, agree it is just an opinion... not fact. I should rephrase that. Mahesh, my point exactly if they had some backend engineers they would not have that much trouble with the backend infrastructure...
- Bindu Reddy
You use friendfeed don't you? That's got a lot of features and hasn't evolved that much since the beginning.
- Richard A.
I dunno, its probably lucky more than anything the Twitter development team always struck me as ad hoc and accidental about features.most real innovation ie replies, hashtags etc driven by users and other things like retweets messed up when "coded"
- WarLord
Richard, when FF was being worked on there was a lot of iteration and change. I suspect the FF team is not working on it right now....
- Bindu Reddy
I think they were too busy trying to keep Twitter online to worry about new features. Fail to the Whale.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
WarLord - yes you are right about the Twitter innovation being driven by users
- Bindu Reddy
My impression was that Twitter started off as a proof-of-concept project that blew up way beyond what the creators initially envisioned.
- Victor Ganata
Pet rocks and hula hoops also succeeded. I'm not sure anyone has figured out the formula for what will be popular at any given point in time.
- Cristo
Victor I often speculated that Ev was playing when he came up with Twitter and thats why the selling thing is such a dance - really just his hobby that got out of control...
- WarLord
Cristo - agree. I am just making an observation /stating my opinion after the fact.. WarLord, I thought Jack Dorsey was the guy who came up with twitter
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, you're likely correct I thought it was ev and biz
- WarLord
Originally, I thought Twitter was just one of many incubation companies that Evan Williams was funding. He stepped in when it seemed like it was becoming successful. I wonder what happened to the others.
- Cristo
The others were not successful or probably were abandoned to focus all efforts on Twitter? Randomly speculating :)
- Bindu Reddy
Pity not having Super Smart Engineers didn't work well for friendster. :-)
- Piaw Na
Some things succeed despite not being great, and others fail despite being great. A lot of it is timing, but I wouldn't aim to emulate the success of things that succeeded despite not being technologically advanced. E.g. Just because Windows was a huge success, doesn't mean you should create bad user interface in order to succeed. It wasn't the element that caused it to succeed.
- Cristo
Piaw Na - Ha, the standard confusion between co-relation and causation :))... Cristo, completely agree with your point..
- Bindu Reddy
I'm liking this post because of Bruce Lewis's first comment, not because I endorse the belief that Twitter's engineers aren't super-smart :)
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor - this is my lame attempt at posting a rant about super-smart engineers :)
- Bindu Reddy
Cristo, Not a super-smart engineer....
- Bindu Reddy
You're just saying that because you want to be successful like Twitter. ;)
- Cristo
Biting off more than you can chew and being the lucky one who was able to chew through all the crap doesn't make you sucessful, just lucky. Twitter isn't sucessful yet. It's still in a fad stage. It only got there because some people with names started using it and it became hip. Fads come and go, let's see if Twitter is still sucessful in 12 months before giving them a smilie stamp on the hand.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Cristo - yes I am trying desperately to understand and replicate Twitter's success :) But Johnny says they are still a fad. So I guess my attempts are meaningless anyways.
- Bindu Reddy
I by no means implied that their experience shouldn't be studied or admired, just it's they are still a boat rocking on the sea of trends looking for a harbour. If you want to be infamous, make something simple and get a lot of celebs to use it... Beyond that, I got nothing
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I just want to emulate Johnny's success. Still trying to grow a beard I can shave, and then I'll do a radio show on social media. ;)
- Cristo
Doh! It never occurred to me until now.. Of course you have to make something really really simple if you want celebs to use it. :)
- Bindu Reddy
If you can't get a celeb to answer what something is in a soundbite to Oprah, you have to do it the old fashion way... which takes longer. Souffles are lovely but collapse when out of the oven to long... Christmas cake lasts for years...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Yup. Probably Likaholix is too complicated for Ashton Kutcher. Need something like Older-womenholix. :)
- Cristo
If you really want to know, here is the secret. Write on a whiteboard the word 'Why'. The underneath write three words 'Hardcore', 'Casual' and 'Walmart'. Now, under them write a single sentence for each telling them how they would use it and why. Depending how many of the three you can explain, that's your audience. If my wife (Casual) and my sister (Walmart) can understand it, you have a winner. 1 sentence each...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Twitter blew up in mid to late 2008... before that, I don't think anyone was talking about Twitter's success.
- Andrew C
from Android
I will say this: people say that if you have more users than your system can handle, it's "a good problem to have". I think Twitter should serve as a cautionary tale that it's not always a good problem to have; Twitter spent a lot of time and engineering effort dealing with scalability problems brought about by their success. They did emerge successfully, and maybe this is proof that...
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- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, you may be right or you may be wrong about it being a cautionary tale. It's possible that playing hard-to-get is a good strategy for cementing user loyalty. It's possible that twitter outages had the same psychological effect as someone playing hard-to-get. I don't know how one would go about testing that hypothesis, though.
- Bruce Lewis
I think what's interesting is why other similar services that existed before Twitter failed and no longer exist. Was it really just the complexity of those services? It really does seem like it was a timing issue. I'd rather be lucky, than actually good, I guess :D
- Victor Ganata
And Victor, there were social networks before Facebook. Heck, there was Sixdegrees long long before Friendster and Myspace, but Sixdegrees died like a dog. Timing definitely matters.
- Andrew C
I think behind the scenes, the work Evan Williams, Chris Sacca, Fred Wilson and others have done to make strategic decisions and evangelize to celebrities and traditional media is paying off. The service is what it is, but I think it's been highly (and intelligently) leveraged.
- Cristo
Andrew, I don't think it's a matter of timing, Friendster had crap engineers, as did six degrees. None of those sites scaled. Ebay had outages early on as well, but the business kept going and growing anyway.
- Piaw Na
Has Friendster failed? It's actually still continuing to grow in Southeast Asia if you believe the numbers.
- Victor Ganata
Yes, it has failed in the none of the initial investors/employees got anything like the payback they hoped for.
- Piaw Na
That, again, seems more like a timing issue. The new investors seem to be doing OK. And as far as I can tell, it still looks like the same technology.
- Victor Ganata
I think Friendster managed to get a handle on their scaling eventually. It was too late in the US by that time, though. I don't remember Sixdegrees very well. I used it too infrequently to notice outages...
- Andrew C
Friendster was unusably slow for a while. It didn't just have outages. If Twitter had those kinds of problems, I think we'd be talking about a different micro-blogging service today.
- Cristo
no actually they had very smart engineers , who understood the concept "less is more" , same here in FF :)-
- Peter Dawson
I've always thought Twitter embodied the philosophy of doing only one thing, and doing it well (or at least trying to.) But I really think--as in most cases of technology--that the social phenomena and their implications are much more significant than the underlying tech itself.
- Victor Ganata
I think Cristo's and Victor's thoughts are square on. One thing to add: the role of the SMS features shouldn't be underestimated (remember the twitter get's protester out of jail type stories that cross-over into mainstream news.) So, twitter had the mind-shared and evangelism of the SXSW crowd which helped create a critical mass of a certain fervent breed of user and it fanned out enough to get influencers in the politics/news/celebrity business.
- Micah Wittman
ahhhhhh.. I see that some1 remembers the SXSW luanch. On that day it was said the nay sayers said "oh no-- not another micro bloggin tool" !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
It's not clear to me that Twitter did one thing only well -- obvious scalability issues aside, I think a lot of Twitter's success can be chalked up to timing, although I will give them credit for the 'follow' feature which distinguished them from many other sms-to-web gateways that existed before. Still, I dislike a huge volume of human communication taking place over a proprietary...
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- Ray Cromwell
You know it hurts me to see such a pretty girl so tired. You've got your mother's cheekbones & your father's crooked smile. I will keep you, keep you sleepy as the South. With my old watch on your wrists & my thumbs inside your mouth. Suck on my fingertips till you kill all my prints so your girlfriend will have no clue just how much I've been...
SCREW YOU HAGGIS... I wax me legs, I spend hours in the hairdressers and weeks doing my makeup for you... YOU BASTARD... I HATE YOU... *runs off sobbing*
- Johnny Worthington
Oh I have you in another list Johnny: Crossdressing Australians of FF.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Aww, I hope I'm not offending anyone by not including them on the list. Many times I just go by the avatar and if it's a cartoon or something it's hard to tell and I won't put on here, and also these are just *my* personal tastes. Everyone has different types!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Any woman with the brass to be on FF is a hottie in my book.
- Chris Baskind
Wow - that'd be a drag to be on a list like that. Still, as I always say, if you want to get a lot of followers get a hot chick avatar. It's sad but it's iJustine. True! I mean true. It's sad but it's true.
- Ciaoenrico
Ciaoenrico I kinda take offense to that. My avatar is me, it's my face and I shared it on FF after a LOT of thought about it (plus some gender confusion, but that's another story). Because a woman might be considered attractive she *shouldn't* user her face as an avatar otherwise she's just trying to get followers? Bull crap, and sexist to boot.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Agreed, Tina. That certainly wasn't the point of this list - it was merely a way to point out all of my FF crushes at once. I hope no one takes offense to it. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I'm offended....I wasn't on this effing list!!
- jamar78
Sean, I'm not offended, personally. I find it rather amusing. The title of this post, to me, however, seemed rather "definitive". YMMV. :D
- Helen Sventitsky
I think I'm due for a new picture. I've used the same one since joining.
- Rochelle
Rochelle, you had that other one, the B&W one of you smiling. That was great, too
- Josh Haley
Quite a collection. There should be a male list too but then that could lead to a match-making game and apps being developed and other memes ... and ... oh dear ...
- Amani
Dammit.. I'm about to delete this post. It was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I don't think it's a problem pointing out your crushes, hun. I think it's the fact that it's titled "The Hotties of FriendFeed" that can make people kind of uncomfy. That comes across as a direct judgment of peoples' looks, even though we know you didn't mean it that way.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Sean don't ever apologize for your actions.
- Shevonne
Okay, I think I understand.. Thanks Amanda.. I just updated the title, hopefully it will let everyone know that this is my own personal list, and by no means a judgement of anyone.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
It's not my scene, but hey...whatevs. It just feels a little meat market-ish to me. People aren't avatars, and I know a couple on the list who wouldn't be proud of being reduced to a FF hottie on someone's list.
- Derrick
Derrick - But a lot of the stuff you post to the really gay room is pretty meat market-ish. Just because they're professional models it's okay to objectify them? We naturally objectify each other because we naturally are sexual creatures. I'm not offended by being on this list, but I don't like being objectified and I think what Haggis has done is a sweet gesture, not a gesture of blind testosterone rubbing one out.
- Mattie Kenny
Didn't anyone see me grab the popcorn earlier? That's your 1st clue.
- Josh Haley
Sean you created a monster didn't you....hehe
- jamar78
Ugh.. no kidding.. I guarantee this list will never be mentioned again outside of these posts. I think i'm gonna unplug for a while and let this all die down.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
ok i just now read the whole thread damnit i always miss everything lol joel... ::shakes head:: u kno to some i'm not a lil sister lol ur so funny i luv u!
- Cardeen Martinez
don't let it get to you Sean....all that matters is that you had no malicious intent which you didn't
- jamar78
**blushes** - gee thanks. :) And go hide for a while, Sean... it'll all blow over.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
nice list, i have about half of these in a group called "sexy people"
- sean percival
Mattie, any pics I post in the Really Gay Room are A) *in* the Really Gay Room, and B) pictures culled from sites that are meat-marketish to begin with. I would never post pics of Scoble or Louis Gray and say, "oh these are guys I'd like to see naked". And I'm not knocking Sean. I freakin' love Sean. But I also know that there are women on the list who've worked hard at getting to where they are in life and in their careers and to be thought of as a pin-up on FF isn't their bag.
- Derrick
It's about time you chimed in Leather...LMAO...love it...haha
- jamar78
I don't see how posting this in a room would make it any different a situation, Derrick. I don't think that Sean ever said he wanted to see any of the women on the list naked. Is that something I skipped over while scanning the comments? If he said that, then yes. This list is pretty lame. But being admired for your beauty isn't bad. Especially since (for me at least) being a hottie entails being incredibly intelligent and engaging.
- Mattie Kenny
Mattie, that's exactly what I consider a hottie. Attractiveness is only part of the factor. Intelligence, a sense of humor, and many other things go into that equation.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Mattie, I'm not going to fight with you over this. If you want to split ends, say I'm a hypocrite, or engage in double standards, feel free. I don't care. Very simply, I know people who don't want to be referred to as hotties. By anyone. I see them on the list. I speak up. That's it. There are 50 people in the RGR, maybe 20 people see it regularly. That's a HUGE difference than the numbers of people who sub to the home feed. But you know what? Forget I even opened my mouth. Apparently I've become a prude...
- Derrick
That's not what I'm saying, Derrick. Now I understand what you meant by putting the photos up in the RGR versus what Haggis did. Did these women speak up for themselves and say they don't appreciate being called attractive?
- Mattie Kenny
<3 Derrick.. I appreciate what you are saying, and think it's very commendable that you are seeing this from an angle I didn't really see. I know you only have the best intentions with what you are saying. Please no more fighting over this..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I just happen to know them, Mattie. And I didn't say they didn't appreciate being called attractive. I said they, knowing them as I do, woudn't appreciate being culled up on a list and pointed out for the world to ogle.
- Derrick
Sean, you know how I feel about you bud, and I'm not putting you on blast. Consider my hands washed of it.
- Derrick
Mattie, how about you look at it from the flip side...those women who DIDN'T make the list and don't have the benefit of feeling all bubbly inside because they've been deemed "attractive"? It's all well and good when you're on the winning team, apparently.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
yeah Sean you are a good person....don't beat yourself up about it
- jamar78
Although you better take my sis' out this damn list!! hehe
- jamar78
Amanda - I don't think not being on the list deems you unattractive and I don't think Haggis is the be all end all of who is or is not attractive. Wow. I'm on the list. BFD. I don't feel or bubbly inside, nor did I take it very seriously. It didn't blip in my radar until I saw people taking major offense to Haggis having posted the list, in which case I looked at it & was surprised to see myself there. I'm not on any "team".
- Mattie Kenny
Haggis, I love the conversations you spawn... feel free to include me in future provocative topics. ~xxxooo~
- Far
I would like to state for the record, should there be a men's list...I would like to opt out. That is all, thank you.
- Christian (Simply X)
Ok gents, let's show the ladies how we roll. (and can someone email me that info ahead of time, so I look like I know what I'm doing?)
- Morgan Haley
Oh too funny. Thanks for including me, Sean. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
And the winner for best line from this entire thread..."The picture is too small to see. Am I on it?"...@Martha. thank YOU! I am now cleaning cola off of my keyboard.
- .LAG liked that
How did you manage to limit yourself to only 53?
- j1m
Ok my cat is really pist off...didn't make the cut...gees! LOL
- Susan Beebe
This list is approved, mainly because one certain hottie is the better half :) Sean, not only do you represent a great product, but also exceptional taste. Sir, I owe you a drink! ;)
- Matt Harwood
I'm amazed that neither Lisa Bettany nor Sarah Lacy are showing up in any of these clique building seminar visual aides.
- Matthew DeVries
Ok I am not the brightest crayon in the box so I want to know how the hell do you see a list of people like that. I have different lists but where do I go to see all in just that one list?
- Brandy Lea
Brandy, you see this view when you go into one of your lists then select to Add/Remove friends.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think what Brandy is asking is if she can see someone else's list, which we can't. Haggis might have made a list that is friendfeed.com/list/hotties and he'll see it when he's logged in, but no one else would see it if they went to that same URL. He wouldn't even see it if he logged out and went to that URL.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't think I was subscribed to you when I made this list, Jeunelle. This is almost a year old! :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Don't misunderstand what I mean. I mean I am thankful I didn't make the list period. PRAISE THE LORD :)
- Jeunelle Foster
We should have an Academy Award of FriendFeed or something. That I would have a long ass speech prepared telling everybody how I'd like to thank all the little people who were responsible for me winning that award and it should be sponsored by Mashable and FFundercats :)
- Jeunelle Foster
How the FF did I miss this thread? Jan 27th??? Thank you! That's a huge compliment. And since it's so old, it's a fun time capsule too.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Also, Mattie, in all honesty, I don't have a webcam. I hear Akiva just got a new MacBook Pro that has one built into it though...isn't that right, Akiva?
- Pete Delucchi
Akiva could also use the webcam on his wife's new computer, that I hear also has a built-in webcam. Ya know, just in case his stopped working for whatever reason. Me, I'm still stuck with nada for video recording. Wish I could help...la di da...
- Pete Delucchi
Mattie, like I said, no webcam, so you'll have to cope with an mp3, and it's super late right now, so I had to whisper too ( http://friendfeed.com/e... ) now, if the giraffe dies, it's on Akiva. :-P
- Pete Delucchi
Do it! DO IT! You don't have the balls!!!
- Mo Kargas
Pete has saved the beloved giraffe. He was reintroduced to the wild just moments ago!
- Mattie Kenny
Hooray for the giraffe! Does Akiva even have a picture on his drivers license? :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Thanks everyone. And yes I am having a fantastic day. I have yet to put on pants and I already have had my third bloody Mary, extra spicy! By the time the debates are on I pan to be incoherent.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
drinkin' with no pants! how a birthday should be :-D
- tiffany
Came across this recently (they're featured on the front page of cdbaby), then decided to use ffcheck instead of reposting. (also, http://garfunkelandoates.com/music... )
- Andrew C
Hey everyone! Please check out my friend's band's latest video. They're called Dirty Bourbon River Show and they're absolutely fantastic. The song is called "A Spectacular and Magnificent Day! Oh, if you look closely you'll see me in the video at 2:30 & 2:40. (I'm incentivizing!) Please check it out, I promise you'll love it! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Wow. If you were wondering how to make the anniversary of my mother's passing hurt doubly, just ask all of my friends who never responded to my texts pleading for them to just hang out with me or let me stop by their place and snag a hug. Fucking assholes. I'll stick with the ones who I didn't realize cared so much and have been there for me today
so sorry... unfortunately it's true that most people don't care & you don't find that out until you really need friends to be there for you.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Um...I will have to take your word on that one... o_0
- JA Castillo
It's like my two favorite things stopping me from enjoying my two favorite things. I can't enjoy a vagina with fire inside it & I can't toke from her asshole!
- Mattie Kenny
from fftogo
Hey man, if you don't see the problem with trying to eat a flaming vag or toke a j from a chick's asshole while her vagina tokes it, then I am all for you! I commend you, in fact!
- Mattie Kenny
One hundred & one pounds of fun. That's my little honeybun. Get a load of honeybun tonight! I'm speaking of my sweetiepie. Only 60 inches high & every inch is packed with dynamite! Her hair is blonde & curly. Her curls are hurly burly. I call her hips twirly & whirly!
She's my baby. I'm her pap. I'm her booby. She's my trap! I am caught & I don't wanna run cuz I'm having so much fun with honeybun! SAVE ME SOME TURKEY!!!!
- Mattie Kenny
from fftogo