Obviously I can't provide a lot of detailed plans and guarantees, but I can tell you that I'll do my personal best to ensure that the FriendFeed users and community are treated right. I love this product too, and don't want to see it disappear.
We love you guys and FriendFeed.. we are just a little hurt and worried.. just please give us details as soon as possible.
- Tim Hoeck
FriendFeed lets me use people as filters to turn data into information. Facebook doesn't. Until it does, please, Please, PLEASE keep FriendFeed as a destination alive.
- AJ Kohn
congrats guys! facebook needs what you got!
- Lorna Herf
I'm sorry that I haven't said more about this. As you can imagine, it has been an extraordinarily busy day (and I've barely slept in the past week).
- Paul Buchheit
I'll add my plea to the chorus: Please don't take FriendFeed away from us. And don't make us go to Facebook (because we won't). FriendFeed means a lot to a lot of people and the thought that it will dry up and blow away shortly is very disturbing.
- Her Lindsay-ness
It's still great to hear from you Paul. Congrats on that new swimming pool full of cash. :D
- Internet's Tad
Simply glad you're here now. You've always been a very responsive and transparent team. As much as I cringe at the thought of FF going away, I *am* happy for you and the team.
- AJ Kohn
I request you make it to the next scheduled FFundercats podcast to talk to the community. This announcement deserves a live appearance to the community.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Have been dealing unsucessfully with Twitter for two days, trying to get logged in...Their password reset page says"Snap we can't find you." I keep writing to Tech Support at Twitter and get their helpful auto-generated Twitter Trouble shooting email. My problem is not there. =( Hope FriendFeed does not get that blaise about helping users. @EV
- SashaKane
If FB can't keep the service running, would you consider open-sourcing the thing, so we can?
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Hi Paul, thanks for the assurances. In the future, I would highly suggest that you make this sort of statement shortly after the initial merger release. Thanks again.
- Alex Scoble
I would like to give you a hug right now Paul. However, that would be awkward and April might beat me up so I will just say thank you and press the like button.
- EricaJoy
Thank you for affirming that. Much appreciated.
- Karoli
A few more points that would be nice to have addressed soon. Ability to export data, tool to import friends to Facebook, and will ff.im urls continue to function?
- Mark Krynsky
Those that like friendfeed as is should be most pleased with this statement, as it probably means maintenance to keep the current system as is, without as much attention to new features. It's also good news for all those who like both friendfeed and facebook, as facebook will likely adopt the better features from friendfeed
- Ivan Kirigin
Thanks for making FriendFeed what it is, and lets hope it stays that way, though there's slim chance of that
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Now that I think about it: are you kidding me? They've already stated that FriendFeed's going to be absorbed into Facebook. What kind of sleight-of-hand are you trying to pull now, Paul?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@EricaJoy: I have nothing against hugs. :)
- April Buchheit
Thanks, Paul. I've been getting more and more depressed thinking about the bad ways this could go. The reassurances help a bit, at least. In fact, just hearing you speak on the point is encouraging - the open lines of communication between the FriendFeed team and its users has always been one of the great things about FriendFeed that I'm afraid will be lost with the Facebook buyout. And yes, a FFundercats appearance would be a great idea.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't want to read too much into this reassurance but the "personal best" remark made me think like there is not a united FF anymore and that it's up to your personal efforts to prevent it from being eaten by FB :)
- Turker Keskinpala
you can sell the tech but the community can not be bought sold transferred or merged
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
Turker, I do believe that this deal was the right decision -- I'll write a bit more about that when I get a chance. I say that I'll do my "personal best" because I will -- it would be misleading to make promises on other's behalf :)
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: I'm hopeful that this will be the best for both Facebook and Friendfeed. What you and the staff at FF have done is amazing, with only 12 people! I love the service here. I also enjoy Facebook (one I ignore all quizzes and stupid apps), but in a different way. Hoping some coolness can be brought to both. Good luck to you and your team!
- Travis B. Hartwell
this echoes star wars galaxies, incredible unique community. but they upgraded it to be like world of warcraft. this is a replay of the devs soothing messages. the forums were livid the community evaporated.
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
When socialmedian was acquired by Xing they left it alone. I hope the same happens here. I'm sure you will do your best though!
- Michael Fidler
On behalf of the Dutch citizens our Queen wants to let you know: Thx Paul.
- Ton Zijp
Don't know what to say, so lets start with big congrats! from one hand, as an early member of Friendfeed I think we've created here a very cool, collaborative and tech-savvy/passionate community of great people that all probably wish to stick around as much as possible. From the other hand, I know how corporates work and it takes one small decision of share holders to close Friendfeed...
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- Nir Ben Yona
My first reaction is disappointment. I don't believe big corporations do better than small ones. Facebook is inferior to FriendFeed, although it's user base is much larger. Clearly FriendFeed won't survive in the long term, unless it is open sourced. Why not open up and embrace the wonders of the GPL instead of joining forces with the Walled Garden no #1? Facebook don't even operate with permalinks,.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks for the explanation Paul. Of course, I congratulate you guys. I think anyone would do the same thing if they were in your shoes :)
- Turker Keskinpala
I iread it. Literally Friendfeed is dead. Privacy, security and the owner of facebook sucks, and so will FF now. But what's with my data now? When I delete my account, are my postings deleted, too? Can I backup my postings somehow?
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Ryo: if you delete your account everything goes away. I totally disagree with you about Facebook, but that's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Good to hear. Unfortunately I think Facebook are going to download the brains of all FriendFeed staff then kill FF.
- Michael McGimpsey
but Paul it is going to disappear - Facebook bought FF not for the site but for you guys. So obviously once its integrated into Facebook, development on FF will stop
- Anthony Feint
If FriendFeed and all of it's functionality get integrated into Facebook I'm all for it.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Paul - that's great news. It surely can't cost a lot to keep this place running and it's a good place to try out ideas before they move to FB.
- Martin Bryant
what about improving the product and making sure it gets more users, not only supports those who stay?
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar - unlikely. Facebook bought FF for the developer talent, not for FriendFeed itself.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Why should we believe this? I'm not going to hold my breath.
- Mark Wilson
Martin - I also think so, and it is most likely. But I could still have a hope
- Ihar Mahaniok
Paul, please - underpromise & overdeliver...they say it works.
- A.T.
Nice to hear. Too bad you don't call the shots anymore.
- jcunwired
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! (nice name for Facebook skunkworks) I'm sure everyone would love to see FriendFeed itself stay around, even if the innovations that happen are geared towards implementation at Facebook. Thanks for this note Paul! :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
There are a few promises and guarantees that you SHOULD be able to provide. Like, that our network of friends will remain intact and that the features that make this site great will remain. If you can't make those promises, then you shouldn't have done the deal. I sure do hope that the real-time search engine wasn't the centerpiece of this deal (it probably was), because that certainly...
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- Brad Williamson
Paul you did such a nice job with friendfeed, and I so want to believe you, but I'm not sure I can. Not because of you, but because of your new employer. Because your new employer is no longer you, and while I have kind of come to trust you, I do not trust your new boss. Not at all. Please prove me wrong, if they'll let you.
- Jim Hearts FF
Paul - thanks for that reassurance. PLEASE stick to that! I was in the middle of reading and participating in a lengthy discussion off of a Robert Scoble post yesterday ... then I came up for air and saw your news. Congratulations - I have no idea what that feels like or how pumped you must be. There are so many things FF does that I LOVE...I know you know that. Please Please PLease dont' go away! Thanks!
- Tobin Truog
Thank you, I think everyone here loves Friendfeed. :)
- Hunt
from BuddyFeed
This is nice to hear, and I really hope that FriendFeed will keep on living. I still have some pain in my stomach because of this :/
- Patrik Johansson
First zombie/mafia request and we're all outta here....
- Fossil Huntress
+1 Fossil Huntress The partitioning of the networks between friendfeed and facebook was a major feature that many people made use of, lacking appropriate controls for who sees what. Merging the two groups of friends isn't going to work, at all.
- Mr. Gunn
we all know what needs to happen. the question is, where? ... FB needs, - apart from being/it is, a large, general, open application platform, - 1. Smart keyboard shortkatze - and Im a kbsCzar to go to, 2. Aggregating facilities, smart /RSS/ .. 3. Full blogging facilities, capabilities, not 140 chars. 4. Full real time comments facilities, capabilities. 5. Real time, live, but ALSO...
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- Petr Buben
I hope you're being open and honest with us. This time. :(
- Kamilah Gill
Thank you! I am sure you will do great things at FB. I just hope that the great app you built here isn't destroyed. I don't know of any other aggregation app that I can embed into my site like this one!
- beersage
Congratulations on your successes, best wishes for more. And thanks for continuing to look out for us loyal, addicted FFanatics!
- Rob Schieber
I hope it continues, i'm a new user and absolutely love it (wish i knew the value of it before)! Congrats!
- Luis D. Santos
As nice as it sounds I'm sorry to say that as a, now, Facebook's employee I'm afraid you'll have to comply to whatever your new boss tells you. Didn't MZ make it clear?
- lelapin
and let me add second, obvious, "Facebook needs" - Friendfeed bookmarklet, and Friendfeed tools - widgets, embedding - real time and not - of posts, and groups ...to embedd, to inject oneself into this thing called Internet ..... so, if FB listens to FF engineering long enough, they are going to get it .. right
- Petr Buben
Paul, what I am worried is not that you're brainwashed, but that there's simply no business need for Facebook to improve FriendFeed from now on, period.
- Ihar Mahaniok
I have confidence Paul. While some of the comments were probably uncalled for, covering an investment (of time and money) in these times to move on and hopefully provide even 'better stuff' makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious there are a LOT of people that don't want to 'lose' Friendfeed. (I wouldn't hold a town hall for a few weeks though :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congrats, Paul. It's sad that people have to make these uncalled for hatred comments about Facebook though. Why can't both sites work together. I think Facebook will do better with FF and vise versa. Take the good features of both services. Don't boycott FB, enjoy it. I'm sick of the negative comments going on, that's all. :(
- Mol, Time Warping
Molly: What makes you think there's going to be a "vise versa?"
- Christopher A Carr
Because I don't think Paul and the other FF developers would allow FB to do anything. I'm sorry, I am not going to think negative here like some here are. I guess I'm a fangirl for FB.
- Mol, Time Warping
Finally something about the changes on the horizon that isn't all d0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0om and whining. Thank you, Paul! :D
- Christian (Simply X)
The time to think about how you could do your 'personal best' to ensure FriendFeed continues to exist was prior to the discussions with Facebook. Not after.
- Andy C
Paul, what about the content scam that FB T&C is, does it apply to Friendfeed now? Should we all start writing scripts to retroactively delete all content ever uploaded to Friendfeed? Elaborated a bit here - http://friendfeed.com/mbravo...
- Michael Bravo
We know you'll try your best, Paul. But sometimes, you just can't win the dark side...
- Winston Teo
Thanks Paul for all your efforts. Founders often want the best, but acquiring companies often have people with political/power issues or different/limited visions.
- Mitchell Tsai
*throws a sheep at Paul* is that a good thing?
- Joe....
from iPod
yes, thank you, Sergeant Paul ... well, good to hear we go on ... because if not, how about starting www.anotherFeed.com ... or, www.Letsgofeed.com ...... anyway, lets boost blogging capabilities, post more than current amount of chars, lets have TOP POSTS / clicks count list at the head of each group, some stats, lets index group headers, lets have MORE keyboard shortcuts .. - now ......
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- Petr Buben
“The thing is, it’s very dangerous to have a fixed idea. A person with a fixed idea will always find some way of convincing himself in the end that he is right.” - Atle Selberg, winner of the 1950 Fields Medal
Wasn't he talking of religion in general, and belief in supernatural in particular? Myself, I am partial to the concept of religion as a self-replicating and very nearly ineradicable thought virus (with some exceptions).
- ianf ⌘
ianf -- secularists and atheists are fully capable of holding fixed ideas that are as absurd and destructive as those held by religionists. Marxists, Marxist-Lenininsts, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Maoists, etc. murdered in the neighborhood of 100 million people in the 20th century in the pursuit of utopian fantasies. (See The Black Book of Communism.)
- Sean McBride
I have no idea what he was talking about -- it's not important to me. I just liked the quote. I think it applies to everything, including religion, atheism, politics, technology, finance, etc.
- Paul Buchheit
I have a fixed idea that friendfeed rocks. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sean - did you see me write that, so you needed to set me straight (again)? Besides, had I elected to engage in this discussion, I'd have pointed out from the start, that your "godless" examples of Communism (and Fascism, I presume) can just as easily be described as new religions. Complete with their own belief dogmas, foundation myths, theology, cathecisms (="A FAQ of religious...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf -- these Marxist movements were all explicitly anti-religious, and in many cases targeted religions for destruction (and religionists for death). To describe them as "religious" in any conventional or meaningful sense is to play word games. They were militantly dogmatic in their secularism and anti-religionism, in their fixed anti-religious ideas.
- Sean McBride
It seems clear to me that "religious" has two (related) meanings. It's common to describe a technical debate (such as one involving programming languages) as being "religious", but without literally meaning that it's the same as an Christianity or something.
- Paul Buchheit
Usually it means that the discussion is over non-falsifiable statements or matters of opinion that won't lead to anything useful.
- Bruce Lewis
really good context of the quote can be found here: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26... Selberg was talking about fellow mathematician Louis de Branges, who had a reputation for being consistently wrong. In 1985 de Branges announced he had proved the Bieberbach Conjecture, and nobody paid any attention to it because it was from de Branges. Only, in this case, de Branges happened to be correct. :-)
- Karim
i'm not sure if Selberg was saying that de Branges was often wrong because he was seduced by the attractiveness of his own "fixed ideas" -- proofs that de Branges felt were correct when they weren't -- or whether it was a comment on the mathematical community rejecting de Branges' ideas outright because of *their* "fixed idea" that he was a nutcase. :-) either way, the lesson would seem to be, "Don't be so sure of yourself."
- Karim
I've adjusted the inbound feeds from the curatorial delicious accounts to only show items tagged with ics and trusted and feed. So you can use your accounts as scratchpads, but only send events here when you approve a feed by assigning those 3 tags. Better signal-to-noise ratio this way.
Thanks a lot for this, Jon. The Providence calendar validates according to http://severinghaus.org/project... , but Apple iCal and Google Calendar won't load it. Keene's calendar loads fine in both. Any ideas?
- Matt Gillooly
I will add a step that runs all the ICS feeds that I generate through the same software that generates them, namely Doug Day's DDay.iCal. That'll give us another data point on validity. This uncertainty is exactly why we are working toward a more robust iCalendar validator.
- Jon Udell
Don't worry scro! There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.
- bob
i wonder if some factions are hoping to bury her now (releasing stories and such) so as to avoid her coming back in later elections
- bob
@bob i know *I* would want her buried, for sure. Can you imagine Palin for President, 2012? *shudder* EDIT: oops, i guess I meant @bob, not @shodan. enjit shows usernames, not nicknames, which kind of makes replying to someone kind of difficult...
- David Adam
@bob, yeah, I'm guessing that's what Fox wants now, and that's why they're reporting it.
- j1m
I think they're running this stuff because A) it's juicy gossip, and B) the election is over and they need something to talk about.
- Gabe
We should stop now talking about this annoying person. She lost, she is away, and might probably never go out of Alaska. I say, she is one reason why the republican lost the election. I don#t think she will be nominated in 2012. A talking parrot never could be pres.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I think this comes from the Newsweek reporting, which was embargoed until after the election. This sort of "how it's made" stuff is very interesting to me.
- Paul Buchheit
I don't like talking zombies, neither do i like their assistants... But i CANNOT believe that it's possible not to know that africa is a continent.
- Kirill Bolgarov
and of course this never came out during the campaign because? And any answer of "because it would damage the campaign" are null and void when you're faced with choices that are flawed and those flaws should be pointed out before it's over to stop a turkey winning. Such corruption in the press *shakes head*
- alphaxion
we were how close to this woman being a heartbeat away? unbelievable.
- Jamie
You can't say there is no continuation in the republican party, if not of policy at least of intelligence level.
- Amit Morson
this reminds me of this one time, where we had (have) this president, who was like "oh, India and Pakistan fighting, testing nukes, blahblahblah" and then the reporter was like "who are the leaders of those countries mr. president?" and he was like ".................." this was after he was elected and in office, mind you. now at least we'll have 4 years of a president that can get past the $100 level of "who wants to be a millionaire."
- grant fox
You cannot be serious. This is the stupidest thing I've heard. Seriously?
- Richard
My estimation of McCain has gone down even further. Sarah Palin is a rube who didn't belong in the veep slot but it's not like she forced her way into that role. It looks like the McCain campaign is trying to blame the entire loss on her - and that is supremely sh***y. Did the fact that she not know simple geography not come up in their vetting? She may be an idiot but that makes them even bigger idiots for choosing her in the first place.
- Carla Thompson
I understand she went to public school, but you cannot seriously believe she didn't know this stuff. On the other hand maybe you all do since you believed everything "the one" told you.
- Richard
I just don't believe this. Let the McCain factions fight and scratch and blame -- and stay clear. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Hey! 4000 years ago when a bearded white angry god made the continents (burying all those dinosaur bones for us to find), he made Africa as a whole. He did not put the countries there....
- Thaths
I can't believe I haven't watched the US version of The Office
- Jonathan Beckett
Jonathan, if you've seen the BBC version first make sure to stick with the US version through the first season. They start off with a lot of the same jokes/situations but not as funny, IMO. But then they start to diverge on totally different story lines and it's very, very funny.
- Paul Reynolds
I love the ones when they side glance at the camera after they say it.
- Paul Reynolds
This is WIN, on a scale beyond human comprehension.
- Iain Baker
I have such a hard time deciding whether this movie is satirical or serious. I keep fluctuating between the two.
- Jonathan Nguyen
It makes one feel a bit leery of handing out business cards, if only for a second :-)
- Ranjit Mathoda
now i also feel bad about handing out my moo cards! ;)
- Dieter Schwarz
Looks like I need new cards. :) Mine have never made anyone sweat.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
this has to be one of the greatest scenes ever!
- Morgan
from twhirl
Loved this scene in the book. But couldn't watch the film actually. Don't know why - I didn't like it after reading the book. But this scene is just great!
- Anton Nekipelov
best scene ever. I'm voting for satire here. The fact that all 3 cards pretty much look the same and they are getting worked up about subtle coloring... can't be serious.
- Tsega Dinka
yeah easily one of my favorite scenes ever. when i saw american psycho in theaters i was maybe the only person laughing throughout the whole thing. many people walked out.
- MG Siegler
I got so worked up about this scene, I went and bought some cards from Smythson. They were beautiful, but the per-card cost was so high, I didn't like to hand them out. Oh - and they look *nothing* alike. Two are in serif, two in sans, for God's sake. Even the corporate marque is different, and each card has a different margin.
- Mat Morrison
this movie is so underrated it's an outrage. the fact that I can't tell with certainty if this movie is satire or not gives it loads of respect in my book. christian bale should've got serious award consideration too.
- grant fox
interesting how relevant the idea of fawning over the business card (80's) is still today.
- Brad Coy
if moo was smart they would use this in some way to promote their new full-sized cards
- MG Siegler
you're kidding right? twitter.com/REPLIES has been turned off?? wtf! that's like at&t disabling the speaker on your phone. why bother. just turn the damn thing off altogether. summer vacation. come back in september. - http://flickr.com/photos...
i'm saying what's the point of @ing someone if they can't see it? now we're gettig philosphical. if a twitterer ats a user but the reply screen is broken, did the @ atcually happen?
- @baratunde
from twhirl
when they came for the "with friends" tab and API access, I didn't say anything...because I wasn't a user of the with friends API....when they throtled the API ping limit, I didn't say anything because I wasn't a developer...but when they came for the replies tag I called out --- but no one in particular could hear me call to them! [way tasteless joke there, sorry]
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
the replies api call still works so desktop clients should be able to view them, however it counts against the already reduced api rate limit.
- Alan Le
It's not on the same page as twitter, but if you set up a Summize RSS Feed or just do a regular search there (leave a tab open, it updates), you'll get your @replies.
- John Frost