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- Lina De Martinez
from Bookmarklet
The $133 million in lobbying expenditures by health industry interests in the second quarter of 2009 alone — the most of any sector by far, according to the Center for Responsive Politics — hardly sounds like the change Mr. Obama or his supporters had in mind. - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
Network effects. Did someone famous in France talk about it?
- Robert Scoble
@Rob Sellen i think the main reason is that Friendfeed is better structured for conversations which is an important part of the french and latin culture. The other studpid reason (but not the first) is that FF is avail in French
- Ouriel Ohayon
@Robert Scocble. not really, at the time i kept covering Friendfeed. but lately bloggers were interested in it and they migrate to it.
- Ouriel Ohayon
Lol @ scoble.. they certainly do have good wine. :o) Ouriel... makes sense.. ;o) thanks.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ouriel: thanks, I wondered why FriendFeed takes off in some countries like Turkey and Iran, that might explain it. But in a lot of these places it's just plain old network effects. Twitter hardly has anyone on it so far, even though it's getting lots of hype (30 million people out of seven billion in world). Since FriendFeed has better technology than Twitter it doesn't shock me that some countries take to it over Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: i agree that FF leverages better the network effect by allowing for eg other network imports. But eventually some cultures are more disposed than others. Since Facebook is very popular in France the culture of newsfeed is already mainstream
- Ouriel Ohayon
@Ouriel Ohayon: Any evidence of statistical data, to backup your statement?
- Henning von Vogelsang
Henning... if you look.. he said he had an IDEA why.. not THIS is fact. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
because having FF increses your Feeburner count .. but most of the ppl don't know how to use it really.. some have talked about his advanced search engine. but really the go sgnal was the feedburner user count.
- Frédérick 2 Baro
I do agree with Ouriel that something is happening in France arround Friendfeed. The reason that we love conversation and that FF is a better for that is clear. The fact that is in French helps a lot too. Concerning the actual "buzz" arround FF, I would also say it's because of Feedburner Count of FriendFeed subscribers and French bloggers love this feature ;)
- Cedric Giorgi
@Frederick we gave the samed answer at the same time ;)
- Cedric Giorgi
Ouriel just noticed on http://alexa.com that Twitter was ranked (according to traffic) 109 in France and FriendFeed 4,938. In S.Africa Twitter is ranked 7th and FF 333rd. That doesn't mean things wount change rapidly though
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
assertive enough? that would only be in your opinion? no? he said he had an IDEA why... he don't owe anyone stats or crap.. it's an opinion.. an idea.. ;o) edit to add... in a way you are DEMANDING...
- Rob Sellen :o)
The facts are that i observe a constant wave of invitations from France and nothing has reached that level from the beginning in Twitter.
- Ouriel Ohayon
from email
That's his opinion... he never said he had any facts, in his view it may be the truth of the matter.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ok guys, you're missing the main point. Narvic, a famous blogger in France said he decided to leave twitter for FriendFeed. That's here :http://friendfeed.com/narvic...
- stanjourdan
I've been active on FF for a very long time, and I confirm what Stanislas said: narvic http://friendfeed.com/narvic... has been the first major French Twitterer to explain why FF rocks and to encourage his followers to move in. It succeeded and some of his "popular" friends joined the movement.
- Jérôme
email notifications and things like this just helped. I noticed this trend some weeks ago. That would be really interesting if the FF team could show some stats about the activity in france lastly (i asked but still no answer)
- stanjourdan
I really don't think there's anything cultural that explain this growth: Friendfeed is amazing when conversations take place in real-time and when hundreds of visitors sign in in few hours, magic happens! Thanks to narvic, many users experienced the awesomeness of FF in just few days, and everyone buzzed about that. Some of them had opened their account months ago but they discovered the service and the community only in the past 10 days.
- Jérôme
Stanislas, I think those new users don't impact Friendfeed audience significantly. How many new followers did we get? 100-200? How many new unique followers do we (Narvic, Nicolas Voisin, Autheuil, Eric Mainville... and French groups) now have? Probably less than 3000. And those newcomers probably invited no more than 5 users, on average. Those are completely made-up stats, but I doubt that this peak is that big.
- Jérôme
@Jérôme : I got somthg like 130 new followers. II do not say there was a huge trend, but would like to know if i'm right saying that the trend began *slowly* (but surely) some weeks ago (and not 5 days ago)
- stanjourdan
Me too. I'm also very curious to know if this is/was a short peak or a real acceleration.
- Jérôme
More importantly, I'd like to know how much the use of internal services (native post, bookmarklet and email) by French users have increased in the past weeks. This is the only valuable indicator of FF's success, as new users who only sync their Twitter account won't find any benefit in using FF over Seesmic-web-like applications.
- Jérôme
I don't tweet. Speaking English doesn't hurt. Ouriel is rarely on FF and therefore don't participate very long in his discussion :) Friendfeed is good for asynchronous discussion too. There's a wonderful weather in Paris area. It's apéritif time!
- Jérôme
Germain, it's a great tool to gain new users but a powerful conversation-killer.
- Jérôme
I wrote a post about this myself... in French. IMHO the main 2 reasons are: 1. Most French Twitter users are geeks, so they weren't afraid of switching to FF, and 2. the small size of the French blogosphere/statusphere, which allowed for a pretty quick migration. And then, of course, there's the network effect, which started out on Twitter...
- Rubin Sfadj
Not to mention Twitter is getting mainstream (at least in media coverage) in France, and that we're found of elite stuff ;-)
- Fabrice Epelboin
don't friend them and remove any tags of you in photos.
- nick
from twhirl
Thanks god my parents are to old to even know how use there own computer, I will never find them on facebook......hopefully :)
- TheHenry
gotta tweak those privacy settings. now!
- Marco Scano
Funny you should say. I just saw my son post about how he is going back into slavery (school) at the end of spring break. The comment I didn't make was "I'm listening....and don't like what I'm hearing"
- Arthur Coleman
knowing lots of younger people adding their parents, thinking that those old dinosaurs don't know how to deal with it anyway :) even with tweaked privacy settings there's no way around preventing anyone from making an unmasking comment on your status for instance, revealing some uncomfortable facts about you :)
- Johannan Edelman
I shared this with my kid, who is on facebook, good for a laugh, dang kids. Get off my lawn.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com