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Paola Bonomo
Argentina’s economy: Piggy bank | The Economist - http://www.economist.com/node...
"The latest protectionist measure requires buyers of books from foreign websites to collect them personally from the airport and pay a fee of up to $80." That's what happens when you sign up for currency devaluation and protectionism. - Paola Bonomo from Bookmarklet
Telemedicine and HealthIT
Hospice professionals have the heart of an amateur - http://www.kevinmd.com/blog...
Most of us who work in medicine refer to ourselves as professionals and for good reason. Years of education, training, and experience make you the clinician you are. Hospice professionals in particular require a very special set of skills to care for patients and families. You are truly professional in caring for the whole person. [...]
Telemedicine and HealthIT
Preparing for your visit with someone in hospice care http://www.kevinmd.com/blog...
Telemedicine and HealthIT
Will large scale telco privacy breaches undermine the efforts of their mHealth units? - http://mhealthinsight.com/2012...
TheNextWeb Forum
20 cities want your innovative ideas for a better future - http://thenextweb.com/shareab...
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Alberto D'Ottavi
RT @TechCrunch: Why Every Entrepreneur Should Self-Publish a Book http://techcrunch.com/2012... by @jaltucher
Alberto D'Ottavi
In amministrazione, la tipa mi fa "Mandi una mail". Prendo il telefonino, mando mail e chiedo "Ora me lo dici?". Non le è piaciuta :)
marco formento
LANjackal
Microsoft And TechStars Launch Kinect Accelerator For New Kinect-Based Startups - http://techcrunch.com/2011...
Microsoft And TechStars Launch Kinect Accelerator For New Kinect-Based Startups
"Microsoft and TechStars are hoping to turn the creativity and momentum associated with the Kinect into some functioning startups." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
marco formento
Andrea Beggi
Chi non sa scrivere scrive le prefazioni - http://www.andreabeggi.net/2011...
Ecco un lavoro per me, eppoi dicono che in italia non si trova lavoro - Simone Temistocle Masi
Matteo Brunati
Il Web semantico riguarda i dati, mentre i motori di ricerca lavorano con documenti ipertestuali. La sfida dei motori di ricerca è stata di cercare di creare una struttura dove non c’era alcuna struttura, tentando di infondere ordine e significato laddove non vi erano né ordine né significato; mentre con i dati l’ordine e il significato ci sono... - http://dagoneye.tumblr.com/post...
Telemedicine and HealthIT
The role of the medical secretary will evolve from a typist to an editor - http://www.healthtechwire.com/news...
(HealthTech Wire/ Interview) - Voice-recognition technology can be a key factor in improving the process of clinical documentation and streamlining patient care. Nuance Healthcare introduc ...
TheNextWeb Forum
Apple is now letting some US customers collect online orders in-store - http://thenextweb.com/apple...
AppleStore
Telemedicine and HealthIT
GPS shoe for seniors to launch in US this year - http://mobihealthnews.com/14130...
Personal location services device manufacturer GTX announced that its GPS-enabled shoes, developed for tracking seniors with Alzheimers, will be released later this month in the US. Aetrex Worldwide will sell the shoes, which will retail for $299. The GPS-enabled shoe received FCC clearance in September. The tracking service will be powered by GTX’s partners Omnilink and [...]
Stefano Quintarelli
I blog sono alternativa credibile alla informazione tradizionale (Open Society Foundation - Soros) (aka Berlusconi incumbent, non startupper) - http://blog.quintarelli.it/blog...
Telemedicine and HealthIT
Patient behavior tracking startup Ginger.io nabs $1.7 million - http://mobihealthnews.com/13905...
Social behavior analysis startup Ginger.io recently announced $1.7 million in its first round of funding. The start-up, which was born out of MIT’s Media Lab, is developing software for mobile devices that aims to give pharma companies and providers detailed data on patient behavior to more effectively target new drugs and therapies. The round was led by [...]
Nicola Mattina
3d del venerdì sera alle 22 ;-) il candidato indichi i motivi per cui il modello degli app store non ha futuro...
1. sviluppare applicazioni per troppe piattaforme diverse non è sostenibile. Attualmente ci sono Apple, Android, Blackberry, Symbian, MeeGo, Windows Phone, WebOs, Vodafone 360... e sicuramente me ne perdo qualcuna... - Nicola Mattina
Perché le webApps surclasseranno le applicazioni client... - Fabio Lalli
2. perché a breve telecamera, gps e altre funzionalità del cellulare saranno accessibili anche al browser - Nicola Mattina
@fabio. in che senso? che saranno migliori? - Nicola Mattina
3. perché Apple si ciuccia il 50% del prezzo di vendita di un app ed è troppo per un ruolo di semplice intermediazione - Nicola Mattina
perché sono un centro in un mondo che vive di periferie, ci hanno fatto fortune ma non son mai durati (finora) - sergio maistrello
grande Sergio! - Pier Luca Santoro from BuddyFeed
@sergio. interessante, me lo articoli meglio per cortesia? - Nicola Mattina
Sai che non sono d'accordo? Mi pare che non si tengano in considerazione un po' di cose. E cioè che Apple chiede delle royalties molto basse (il 30%) rispetto a mercati con modelli simili (console); il modello app store mi pare l'unico sostenibile se vogliamo che gli sviluppatori possano vivere del lavoro che fanno (ci sarebbero i virtual good, ma sono una semplice enunciazione diversa... more... - Federico [Kurai]
E' lo stesso concetto sul quale si basa la mia affermazione, il problema delle applicazioni e' la distribuzione e i costi di sviluppo per la cross compatibilità. Basta pensare al delivery di un apps client per Mac, Windows e Linux... Android, iPhone e blackberry stesso film. - Fabio Lalli
Veramente con il digital delivery sono proprio i costi di distribuzione a scendere. Il problema resta la compatibilità su più piattaforme, ma è fisiologico al sistema (e finora mi pare non sia gravissimo grazie al middleware). Piuttosto rifletterei sul fatto che se gli store non sapranno mettere a frutto l'infinita disponibilità di spazio del mondo dei bit, perderanno molto del loro... more... - Federico [Kurai]
@kurai e chi ha detto il contrario sul costo del delivery? - Fabio Lalli
Er... Sei tu che hai parlato di distribuzione, ma forse ho capito male io. - Federico [Kurai]
In realta', l'idea delle applicazioni a basso costo e alti volumi era venuta a Macromedia nel 1999, quando aveva presentato Shockwave Market. Jobs ha raffinato l'idea e ci ha messo dietro un sistema di distribuzione piu' accessibile, estendendo il concetto sviluppato per la musica. La commoditizzazione del software sta mettendo fuori mercato aziende e prodotti che fino a pochi anni fa... more... - Italo Vignoli from FreshFeed
@kurai io mi riallacciavo alla mia prima affermazione, e intendevo che i costi di distribuzione di un client (per più piattaforme) è molto più oneroso di una distribuzione di una webapps... - Fabio Lalli
Costa di più ma è più remunerativa. Non sempre puoi adottare modelli freemium o simili. Inoltrre un'app nativa, almeno per quanto riguarda le funzioni avanzate di un device, è ovviamente più performante di una webapp - Federico [Kurai]
@federico. i vincoli (le webapp sono meno performanti delle app native) e le opportunità (sarebbe sufficiente un middleware) che citi sono tecnologiche, mentre qui la questione è fondamentalmente economica. Ad un certo punto, chi non vuole infognarsi nello sviluppo di 3 o 4 versioni di un software si orienterà verso un framework che gli permetta di usare lo stesso backend e di... more... - Nicola Mattina
Inoltre, nel momento in cui metto dei middleware viene meno il discorso di fare gli store, che funzionano proprio perché sono basati su piattaforme proprietarie. - Nicola Mattina
@kurai sono cose diverse. Per i giochi posso darti ragione ma sulle altre applicazioni le webapps non hanno nulla da invidiare alle applicazioni client. - Fabio Lalli
Ecco appunto ho visto adesso il messaggio di Nicola... :) - Fabio Lalli
Mah, non concordo. L'app store non ha nulla a che vedere con il midlleware. È un gateway attraverso il quale lo sviluppatore sa che il suo lavoro sarà distribuito e remunerato. A me pare proprio il lato economico che renda vincente la formula - Federico [Kurai]
Con tutti i se, i ma, i framework e i middleware gli store prospereranno a lungo.. ma a lungo. - CantorJF
@nicola, strizzavo l'occhio al sempreverde worldofends.com. internet funziona quando si lascia che il valore si sviluppi ai margini della rete, mentre tende a scoraggiare i nodi che si ergono a centro essenziale per il sistema (non gli hub, che sono nodi funzionali, sinergici, per loro natura non esclusivi, ma i passaggi obbligati e gerarchici nelle vie della rete). gli app store sono... more... - sergio maistrello
@kurai Beh ma io non sono nemmeno d'accordo sul fatto che un apps sia più remunerativa: con questa affermazione tu fai riferimento solo alle applicazioni che hanno un modello di business strettamente legato alla vendita dell'applicazione. Ma se io, per esempio, sono la Nespresso e con l'applicazione ci vendo il caffè e le cialde, perchè dovrei farti pagare l'applicazione? La Nespresso gratis e ti vende le cialde. - Fabio Lalli
@cantorjf anche secondo me gli store funzioneranno a lungo, ma non per la vendita di applicazioni. Rimarranno solo per giochi, musica ed entertaiment in generale. Chi deve sviluppare un applicazione cross piattaforma, ricorrerà al web per motivi di costo / tempo di sviluppo. Per andare su Android, Iphone e Blackberry tendenzialmente hai bisogno di 3 programmatori, mentre se ci vai tramite webapps di uno... - Fabio Lalli
ebbravo @lalli, qui si apre un altro motivo per cui gli store potrebbero essere poco redditizi. Oggi molte aziende fanno applicazioni farlocche: per esempio la VW ha fatto un giochetto con la macchinina sul percorso. Ma una casa automobilistica potrebbe fare molte applicazioni legate alla mobilità, cannibalizzando quelle a pagamento che a questo punto non avrebbero ragione di esistere... - Nicola Mattina
Come ho già scritto, in modelli come quelli basati sui virtual good non cambia nulla: l'app stessa diventa uno store. Certo, non hai più il gatekeeper, ma aumentano i costi di gestione per vendere il virtual good all'interno dell'app. Tanto è vero che facebook quando ha fiutato l'affare ha creato il suo sistema di crediti interno, che di fatto è uno store. Nicola, se l'azienda farà gratis un'app migliore del corrispettivo pay, la venderà. Permettimi però di dubitare, perché finora non mi pare sia successo - Federico [Kurai]
@federico. Infatti finora non è successo, ma se fossi una grande azienda che deve investire un 50mila euri sui cellulari, non avrei molta esitazione a sviluppare un'app figa. Ti faccio un esempio. Se adesso guardo sull'app store nella sezione utility trovo tutta una serie di opportunità: Batteria Doctor Pro potrebbe essere fatto da Duracell, Amplificatore di volume da Technics, Punti Patente da Fiat, Torcia e Carpentiere da Bosh, Sveglia da Swatch e via di seguito - Nicola Mattina
@Fabio browser, risoluzioni e standard diversi.. ce ne vuole uno che lavora per tre (esagero natiralmente). Sono daccordo che molto passarà a Webapp ma credo che anche nelle utility le prestazioni di un app nativa sono ben lontane da una webapp (per non parlare di "cosa" possa fare). I costi di gestione di distribuzione, piattaforma di pagamenti anche per virtual goods (vedi InAppBuy)... more... - CantorJF
@kurai però non mi torna una cosa. Ma se un azienda utilizza l'appstore per fare marketing (vedi il caso di VM), perchè dovrebbe vendere l'apps? Vendere l'apps vorrebbe dire cambiare il modello di business... che vantaggio avrebbe la VM a vendere l'apps, anche se più figa di altri giochi? Nel momento in cui la mattesse in vendita gli utilizzatori avrebbero più pretese, e vedrebbero meno il marchio... - Fabio Lalli
Discussione interessantissima. Mi permetto di aggiungere che forse manca il punto di vista del cliente, che nello store trova un interlocutore unico e un'esperienza d'acquisto uniforme per tutte le applicazioni. - PI
@cantorjf @piccoloimprenditore esistono framework che si preoccupano proprio di questo: ottimizzare e uniformare l'interfaccia senza grossi sbattimenti. Non so, tipo questo http://www.sencha.com/ - Fabio Lalli
Vero, anche quello è molto importante. Fabio, guarda che io ho appunto detto che se azienda x fa un'app gratuita migliore di una analoga pay, difficilmente avrà problemi a farla scaricare. Chissà perché però sono scettico sul fatto che possa accadere. Sul discorso webapp io credo lo spazio ci sia per tutti. Non vedo questa morte degli app store, non in tempi brevi. Perché appunto sono... more... - Federico [Kurai]
Fabio non mi sono spiegato, intendevo lo store non la singola app. Chi compra si deve fidare. - PI
Poi ci sono i comportamenti irrazionali di chi compra: nicola citava punti patente. App pay vendutissima che fa la stessa cosa che chiunque può fare andando sul sito relativo. Gratuitamente. - Federico [Kurai]
comunque sencha sembra molto figa http://www.sencha.com/deploy... - Nicola Mattina
@piccoloimprenditore: ok, ma non capisco il concetto di fiducia. Da quello che ho potuto constatare io nel tempo, le persone scaricano quintali di applicazioni gratuite (anche se non conosciute) solo per il gusto di scaricare, e comprano (in proporzione molto meno) quelle che conoscono, perchè tutti ne parlano. Quindi, mi domando, di fronte a questo, quanto è fiducia nell'apple store? Sicuramente è un ambiente che ti aiuta e facilità l'acquisto, ma non credo che dipenda da un fatto di fiducia. - Fabio Lalli
ah, ecco ci mancava max uggeri e la sua propensione al dialogo costruttivo. Illuminaci vate :-) - Nicola Mattina
@kurai la applicazione per i punti patente la paghi (io non lo farei) fondamentalmente perchè sai di avere un servizio a portata di mano senza dover andare sul sito e fare troppi click :) no? - Fabio Lalli
Fabio non dico che è solo per la fiducia, ma il fatto di avere un solo interlocutore per l'acquisto ti permette di avere maggior fiducia rispetto all'acquisto dalle singole sw house. - PI
è vero l'ho scritto io sbagliando e kurai l'ha corretto senza bisogno di fare lo sborone :-) che intendi di modello di distribuzione enterprise? Ps. Se sapessi tutto, non verrei a fare domande da queste parti :-) - Nicola Mattina
..come dicevo, bellino sencha, era bellino iwebkit e pure jqtouch ed esistono da più di un anno, risultati? scarsi. Non servono solo 4 librerie in javascript e costruire un portale per fare una webapp non è il massimo. servono sdk veri e associati a strumenti che diano support alla programmazione, che aiutino nello sviluppo. Per ora nel male e NEL BENE ci sono le app native. - CantorJF from IM
@maxuggeri scusa l'ignoranza, cos'è il modello di distribuzione enterprise? - Fabio Lalli
@cantor: d'accordissimo con te, una tecnologia da sola non basta. Deve essere adottata. In questo senso devo dire che sono rimasto impressionato dal fatto che Sencha ha ricevuto 14 milioni di dollari da Sequoia, il che mi fa pensare molto, perché Sequoia sbaglia raramente. - Nicola Mattina
@maxuggeri e come si installano ? - Fabio Lalli
bon... io vado a lettuccio :-) grazie dei preziosi contributi... ciao ciao - Nicola Mattina
@CantorJF le cose cambiano :) il fatto che i framework non siano decollati, imho, è un problema anche di contesto: connessioni più lente > esigenza di storare i dati in locale, oppure meno smartphone > meno esigenza di distribuire su tante piattaforme. Il contesto influenza molto. - Fabio Lalli
@maxuggeri :) - Fabio Lalli
@Fabio, un framework non mi serve a niente se per sviluppare una WebApp devo mettere le stesse energie che uso per fare un Portale/Sito web custom. Ormai anche quello non lo fa più nessuno quasi, semmai si sviluppano temi e plugin :). - CantorJF
@CantorJF :) beh su, dai, ma non sono le stesse... - Fabio Lalli
Aggiungo: mi pare che abbiate la memoria cortina; il modello webapp è proprio quello da cui Apple ha cominciato, con il primo iPhone. Modello criticatissimo da tutti, che non ha funzionato e ha portato alla nascita dello store. Con lo store, che come ho detto è un ottimo ambiente per permettere agli sviluppatori di capitalizzare, sono nate milioni di applicazioni. - Federico [Kurai]
Per quanto riguarda il discorso della non sostenibiltà dei porting, poi, anche qui ci sono dei miti da sfatare: se produco un'app con x risorse, per portarla altrove non è che servano 2x risorse. Anzi, spesso il costo del porting è trascurabile. Vado oltre: in app b2c lo stesso costo di sviluppo non è altissimo in proporzione ad altri costi (principalmente relativi al marketing) che però non dipendono dal modello store, ma sono sempre presenti a prescindere dalla distribuzione - Federico [Kurai]
Ha senso nel momento in cui le persone sono abituate a quel canale e si rivolgono lì prima che cercare sul web. Non è un caso che, per esempio, foursquare abbia la sua brava app - Federico [Kurai]
Gianluca, è vero, ma questo è un contesto un bel po' diverso. Mi pare che si tralascino un po' troppe cose. Un altro esempio: il visual costa molto in termini di banda. L'app ha un altro vantaggio sulla web app: è possibile fare in modo che il grosso dei contenuti pesanti siano in locale, mentre la sola gestione dei dati avviene comunicando con il server. Ovvio, non lo puoi fare sempre... more... - Federico [Kurai]
E comunque sono d'accordo sul fatto che sia più probabile la coesistenza di modelli diversi, intendiamoci. - Federico [Kurai]
@Federico Secondo me il punto è proprio questo. Agli utenti le app piacciono perchè danno servizi a portata di dito. Perchè devo cercare su Internet qualcosa che ho già sul desktop del mio smartphone? Tra l'altro, c'è un altro fattore da considerare. Guardiamo al settore editoriale: avere un'app che riproduce un giornale permette all'editore di mantenere il controllo sui propri... more... - Francesco Piccinelli
arjo
Companies 'should impose dress codes on online avatars used by employees' - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...
Companies 'should impose dress codes on online avatars used by employees' - Telegraph
"Companies should impose dress codes on the avatars their employees use to represent themselves on websites such as Twitter, a leading business consultancy has advised." - arjo from Bookmarklet
Micah
Clusterify - collaborative bootstrapping of small software projects - http://clusterify.com/project...
Clusterify - collaborative bootstrapping of small software projects
"Clusterify is about bringing together coders who share common interests to work on small projects." - Micah from Bookmarklet
I took to this right away when I saw it tonight. Sign me up! (which I did) - Micah
shâhin, oh, that's great. It's nice to find find something that's just the right fit. All the best. - Micah
Gianluca Neri
Qualche anticipazione sulla BlogFest di ottobre? 1) C'è ancora posto per i Barcamp; 2) Le conferenze saranno su privacy, social network e diritto d'autore; 3) Una delle tre conferenze sarà una "Twitterence": si hanno 140 parole a disposizione per arrivare al punto; 4) Tutti saranno molto geolocalizzati (e mica per niente si dice, si mormora che...
C'è un tizio sul palco che schiaccia un bottone ad ogni parola, e un display mostra quante te ne mancano. - Gianluca Neri
grande: contro i pipponari di professione che farebbero addormentare pure un neonato insonne. Bravo Gianluca! - blimunda
No, cioè, ma cheffigata. Ok, ci VOGLIO essere anche io, checcavolo. - L'astronauto
Io mi candido per schiacciare il bottone sul palco. Lo so che ce la posso fare! - Andrea.i.Norrköping
... ed accordi con "il signore dei piani alti" per delle belle e sane giornate di sole non ne sono stati stipulati? :D - Giovy
Poi c'è quella conferenza dove siamo tutti nudi. - Dania
@Dania spero ci sia una qualche selezione all'ingresso, eh... che alcuni blogger/bloggeuse nudi (me compreso, ovviamente) proprio non si possono vedere! :P - Giovy
se non fosse che il 30 settembre ho il working capital firenze, rifarei l'advcamp, ma stavolta non ce la posso proprio fare :-( - Nicola Mattina from fftogo
Quelli che non sono bellissimi nudi li photoshoppiamo. - Dania
@Dania il problema non è il photoshop DOPO, è lo stomaco durante... :D - Giovy
io intanto attrezzo la navetta porte-enfant per la pioggia - Domitilla Ferrari
Giuliastro
Via "slow mail" arrivano solo menate e bollette da pagare. Io chiudo definitivamente la mia cassetta della posta.
Andrea Beggi
Dio deve essere uno sviluppatore e non un sistemista, non vedo come altro spiegare il maltempo nei weekend.
Qui oggi sole. :P - Sandra (Untoccodizenzero)
dio dev'essere sistemista: se fosse sviluppatore vivremmo in loop sempre lo stesso giorno: un lunedi' di inizio novembre, probabilmente. - Mario
a Roma c'è differenza tra sòle e sóle, da uno ci di protegge con la crema protettiva - Claudio - braciolanet from BuddyFeed
aggiungo sistema windows :_) - Nicola Mattina
Nicola, allora il maltempo ci sarebbe tutti i giorni, soprattutto nei weekend :D - Blà VS Food
Dio è dio proprio perché è uno sviluppatore. - Chiuso (spero per sempre)
anche in Toscana maltempo a go go - Matteo Carli
questo tempo mi assomiglia.... - Cristina Passarelli
Robert Scoble
Can you be a thought leader without a blog? I'll discuss that here:
Jeremiah Owyang last night was giving me crap about not blogging. I notice that the people on the top of the http://www.ffholic.com most popular lists aren't participants, they are mostly thought leaders. - Robert Scoble
OK what is a "thought leader" - anna sauce
He misses the "thought leadership" that I provided on my blog. - Robert Scoble
And Forrester thinks they are "thought leaders" (instead of analysts) which I got from a recruiter there. - anna sauce
Yes - through twitter and FriendFeed - LPH™ and his dog P™
Are you a thought leader or a conversation leader Robert? I'd call you a conversation leader. - James Watters
We discussed that a bit over beers and it takes thought and time to put together a blog, especially one that is going to get discussion. - Robert Scoble
I can be a thought leader w/o a blog only if a bear shits in the woods. - geoff hines
I wonder what he's really asking or saying to you. - Myrna
I'm willing to bet if you're a thought leader you have a blog. How often you update it is another issue - Tyler Gillies
Myrna: I think a lot of people want to read considered opinion, not little grunts or small items on friendfeed or Twitter. - Robert Scoble
It all comes down to audience doesn't it? - Mitch
is a thought leader who has a blog but doesn't' have startup experience or experience building a company akin to the old saying that "those who can't do teach"...would be interested on your thoughts Robert. - Mike Bracco
Well, I miss your personal blog too, but really you have transferred that energy over to Building43, so pretty much we are getting you're take over there - Stephen Pickering
tylergillies: I wonder if you can be a thought leader without a blog, though? Can you be seen as "serious" by just Twittering or FriendFeeding? The evidence says no. - Robert Scoble
Yes. You can be a thought leader without a blog. It depends on your subject and your audience - it all depends on who you are a thought leader to. - Rachel Clarke
Maybe he wants to know there's a place he can find you instead of searching for your FF postings. - Myrna
Re: grunts on friendfeed, the same thing can be said for books and magazine articles compared to the idiots on television. - Mitch
James: I used to do a lot of longer pieces over on my blog which many told me were thought leadership. - Robert Scoble
I wonder if Ghandi and MLK would be blogging... - Ken Sheppardson
Not all leadership is thought leadership, lets make that clear first. - James Watters
I think you're the guy that brings people together. You're the firestarter. You don't need a blog for that. - erwin blom
You need to gain a following, then say "eff it" and get rid of the blog. For instance, no one listens to a damn word I say - Mike Nayyar
Being a thought leader requires coherent original thought a medium to express that thought and an audience who are interested in either you or the subject matter. - Anton Mannering
the truly confident have nothing to prove. but sharing is caring. - Mike White
erwin: I agree, but why aren't the most active participants here on FriendFeed (or over on Twitter) the ones who get to the top of most popular lists? I think it comes from authority, influence, (and in Twitter's case, getting lucky and getting put on the Suggested User List) but those are things that are hard to earn 140 characters at a time. - Robert Scoble
For me to consider anyone a thought leader, they had better have made a career out of what they say and do. I don't consider someone a leader in something until it is their life. - Mitch
YES mike! - Myrna
But you know Robert on your personal blog, its like we are always talking about just getting it out there, I wouldn't worry about it being perfect. It's like this blogger that Jason interview on one of his first shows said, "The biggest thing I had to teach new bloggers in order to be successful was the ability to hit the "Publish" button. - Stephen Pickering
For instance, one of my tutors was thought leader in the origin of apples. he's never got near a blog. - Rachel Clarke
you bet Ghandi, et al would be blogging as they were keen to communicate to the masses - Geer
One could argue that thoughts are occasionally more than just quick 140-ish character blips from one's skull. Some thoughts require more in depth thought and consideration. So I think that long term, no you can't be a thought leader without blogging or writing some form of thought piece. Isn't that what a thought leader is? Someone who brings ideas to the forefront using logic to back up and show how they drew those thoughts? - Michael Koby
The greatest thought leaders are people like Zuckerberg and Brin/Page - who are CREATING the companies of the future - WRITING blog is sort of beside the point right? - Mike Bracco
I think this shows that Jowyang never participates in FF, which is a pity b/c I followed him here! - anna sauce
anna: Jeremiah has a day job: to write reports and white papers and meet with companies for Forrester. - Robert Scoble
Pre-internet, editors of widely read highbrow magazines were definitely considered thought leaders by their peers and readers. Filtering, featuring and commenting on relevant and cutting edge content via Friendfeed, Twitter and Posterous is arguably an analogous pursuit -- if done well. - Alex Gault
I think the assumptionthat the only method of communication to be a thought leader is using a blog is flawed. A blog is fine if the people you intend to be a thought leader for read blogs. If they don't I'd suggest you go where the audience is. Or the conversation. - Anton Mannering
Don't confuse popular with thought leaders. - Jim Turner
Robert: well I'm new to following you this year, so I would definitely say your current medium has affected my view/opinion of you. At the same time I also really valued your leadership on the Iran front and will admit I was moved by it. - James Watters
If you don't have a blog you know nothing about social media and wouldn't be considered a "thought leader" at least in this context - Tyler Gillies
The best/most interesting ideas tend to be the shortest and most concise - therefore no, all you need is Twitter and a following - Nick Smith
To me, blogs are for essays, and a certain less-early-adopter audience. But tey are going rapidly by the wayside, and that's totally OK with me. This was a hot topic at my happy hour #2 after 21st amendment, where some old publishing industry, SF journalists were, most of them were bloggers, new to Twitter. When I mentioned Friendfeed, the expressions were "we have no idea what you are talking about" but they have learned to embrace, instead of running from it. - anna sauce
Yes Anna and Anton - Myrna
"I accomplish in ten words what many authors fail in a lifetime of books." Nietzsche - James Watters
Nick: well, then, why are the people at the top of the Twitter lists almost always people who either blogged or worked in some other media, like TV or films? - Robert Scoble
I wrote on a Paul Bucheit post that blogs aren't dead, what's dead is text, Video is 10x more compelling and more likely to be consumed - Stephen Pickering
@robert agree. Maybe the best is the combination of indepth vision in blogposts with firestarting and engaging in Twiitter / Friendfeed amongst others. - erwin blom
Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Paul Krugman, Stephen Hawking, et al...those are the thought leaders...how many of them are blogging? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
@TomVMorris is a thought leader and he's doing a good job of keeping it on Twitter. But for most topics, I would think you need a better tool, then just Tweets. - Robert Wilkins
Alex: +1 - Mike Bracco
Stephen: I am big into video and I disagree. Video is more likely to communicate emotion and visual cues, but is harder to consume. On the other hand, I think video is very important to being seen as a thought leader on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble
Bill Gates??? Rich monopolist who has credibility because of power. - James Watters
If you wrote a piece for the Atlantic Monthly I'd consider you a thought leader :) - James Watters
Yeah you're right, I can read a blog post quicker than 15 minutes - Stephen Pickering
Alex all those guys still have a vehicle with which tio relay their thoughts. which is what I think is the real idea behind blogs. - Jim Turner
I rarely consume video. it takes too long compared to the written word. - Rachel Clarke
The point is that he built something real. An empire. What has Michael Arrington built? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
James: that's not why Bill has credibility with me. He knows more about technology business (and now charity) than any single human being I've met. - Robert Scoble
Thought leadership operates across a reasonable broad continuum of medium : at one end Twitter, the other end Books, with Blogs down towards the Twitter end - so they play a part but there is too much noise! - Geer
James: credibility b/c built a great business that changed the computing world maybe... - Mike Bracco
yes you can be a thought leader without a blog. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Yeah, but an empire built on shadiness, capturing people - Stephen Pickering
Alex: Arrington has built a news network that is very good. I can't compete with it. - Robert Scoble
to be a thought leader, all you need is a platform. a blog is just one of the many you can choose - Rachel Clarke
Jeremiah's a smart guy - he's good to catch one-on-one time with. I'm with Jeremiah on this one. - Jesse Stay
"The king will always have eloquence for a simple reason, the drum roll before he speaks" Nietzsche (my view of Gates) - James Watters
I don't like these discussions on "what's dead/dying" because it's always absurd hyperbole. - Mitch
Same for Buffet, his only business strategy is consolidation, becoming a monopoly in an area and then hammering you - Stephen Pickering
@ Robert See Jim Turner's comment - Don't confuse 'popular' with 'thought leaders'. - Nick Smith
That said, Jeremiah's also the one that convinced me to use Google Reader much less than I used to and rely more on FriendFeed and Twitter to find the news. - Jesse Stay
Mitch: I don't think blogging is dead and anyway anytime you say someone say something is dead just replace that word with 'becoming less interesting" and it almost always fits. - Robert Scoble
I'm sorry guys, when Gates thought the internet wrist watch was the next big thing? Please please explain how that is the best ever. - James Watters
Not all thoughts can be narrowed to 140 characters and that is what blogs are for, they are for longer thoughts and essays. I think you need a blog to be a thought leader it is just not necessary to post to it everyday about everything. - Kim Landwehr
@robert The good thing about blogging is it freezes time. It gives you time and breath to think. It's there tomorrow as well. FF is real time and evolving. This conversation develops every minute. And tomorrow i won't find it anymore or easy. So yes: start blogging again ;-) - erwin blom
Microsoft is one of the greatest American success stories in history and also one of the greatest declines, rapidly, in business history - Stephen Pickering
James: even the best athlete loses once in a while. Gates is no different. I've had my major disagreements with Bill but he still is one of the smartest people I've ever met. Just look at his annual letter for his foundation and try to argue with that. - Robert Scoble
Guys it's the message not the medium that's all. The Medium is only relevant as a method of reaching the audience. Being a thought leader is achieved by having a track record of obvious expertise and innovation and then choosing to share that. If you share it with your cat though you're not a thought leader. If you share it with an audience who trust your expertise then a thought leader you are. The medium is irrelevant. The person, the message and the audience. That is all there is. - Anton Mannering
Stephen: how many billion dollar businesses does Microsoft have TODAY? Go ahead and guess. I guessed wrong yesterday. - Robert Scoble
Tumblr, Posterous sucess show me impulse is in, thought composition is out; thinking hurts, and reading good thinking hurts. Most people don't do it, it can cause you to reconsider your world. Like right now if I have to reconsider thinking Bill Gates is overrated it will hurt my head, I live by that thought. - James Watters
Robert- I know Jeremiah, and I know he has a job. I have one too. I choose to participate in FF, he doesn't. That's totally OK. I'm just saying, that it's interesting that he thinks it's necessary to have a blog to be a "thought leader" (Forrester's key phrase lol) - anna sauce
Anton: Totally agree. I always thought it was funny how people equated journalism to the newspaper. The newspaper is just a medium. - Mike Bracco
Yes, but its one of the greatest squanders of wealth in history. Apple has more cash I think on hand, and for a company that nets 6 billion a quarter, their equity is abysmmal. Its one of the greatest squanders of wealth in history. The stock price is less than it was 10 years ago, I think. How Balmer can still be CEO is beyond me - Stephen Pickering
Following long conversations on iPhone interface is painful because you have to scroll down after every refresh :( - Tyler Gillies
@tlergilles stick in there I'm glad your here - James Watters
tylergillias, click on the "16 minutes ago" thing at the top left of this thread, should sort you out. - Mark
Stephen: I agree, but Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses. Many of which are increasing in growth, not decreasing. - Robert Scoble
Mike - Exactly and as soon as journalist realise that they're not married to the printing press they'll be better off. - Anton Mannering
Stephen: I don't know many other companies that have 14 billion dollar businesses cooking along. - Robert Scoble
I think a blog is a stepping stone to becoming a thought leader. - Tamar Weinberg
Dangerous math, by this reasoning John Chambers is the thought king. - James Watters
Robert - A blog is more like a column with comments, this is a conversation that never ends. I think we need both. - erwin blom
MSFT, 36 billion in Equity after how many years of netting 15-20 billion? That is just criminal. All this time they'd been better off giving that cash to shareholders. - Stephen Pickering
+1,000 Stephen. - James Watters
If you want to be a thought leader in molecular physics then having a blog or being on friendfeed would be irrelevant. The medium that the relevant community flock to is scientific journals. - Anton Mannering
All bloggers don't become thought leaders(obviously) and all thought leaders don't have blogs so what feels best to you Robert? - Myrna
Robert surprised me yesterday with is post from 21st amendment. He seemed surprised the person next to him didn't know who he was. That's dangerously close to celebrity think. - James Watters
Robert, what's there 14 billion dollar business cooking along, and how many billion dollar businesses do they have? - Stephen Pickering
I think so. Chris Pirillo is a thought leader with or without his blog... - krystynchong
I do miss your blogs Rob xx - Mark
Mark: that doesn't work on iPhone interface - Tyler Gillies
Having a blog is only a pre-requisite for being a thought leader in blogging. - Anton Mannering
Anton lol - Myrna
I think chris pirillos blog complements his video and not vice versa - Tyler Gillies
Robert - If the audience you're interested in is on Friendfeed then that's where you should be. However if a significant number of people in your audience feel you should be blogging then perhaps you should communicate that way as well. Go where your audience is. - Anton Mannering
Talking about thought leaders, i'd like the name of the person before the entry. Not everyone is equal when talking. - erwin blom
What's the char limit on friendfeed posts? - Tyler Gillies
Erwin - I'm equal - Anton Mannering
erwin: i like that idea. it could work as a sort of "mental filter" - Tyler Gillies
Erwin - Interesting stance that. If you know the people it makes sense. But surely you should take every unknown commenter as you find them and judge their comments neutrally until you can assess their knowedge/ability over time? Otherwise you run the risk of being lead by the same old faces without intelligent interruption of the conversation. - Anton Mannering
anton: sometimes a comment doesn't make sense contextually until you know who wrote it. i like the "feature" because it would allow you to form that context _before_ you read the comment - Tyler Gillies
Character Limits on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Robert Scoble
robert: thanks :) - Tyler Gillies
I still think the internet wrist watch is the next big thing :-P - Jesse Stay
tygerlilie - I agree, I was commenting on Erwins thoughts about not all commenters being equal not on whether the names should be first. - Anton Mannering
Great topic, been discussing this lately with colleagues too. If you're an individual who has an already established industry reputation, you can show thought leadership in many other ways beyond a blog, but if you're just starting out, you need some sort of a platform and a blog is an easy way to get going and show depth/substance - Louise Rasho
Implementing @username in friendfeed would be helpful - Anton Mannering
Anton - Of course that problem is there, but it's how i use FF on a busy day. Scan my favourites among the masses. - erwin blom
Regarding earlier posts re: video, it's just far too slow. I can scan faster than listen and watch, and with scanning you can absorb so much more information. - anna sauce
Jesse, I think you should continue your vodcast. I think it could be big. I myself looked forward to it as much as TWIT - Stephen Pickering
Louise - Totally agree. As long as your audience are likely to read blogs. - Anton Mannering
Absolutely. - Peter Johnson
Stephen, you think? I'm thinking I'll need to space it out more if I do. Also, need to figure out a focus. Editing is a pain, too, so need to figure out a solution for that as well. - Jesse Stay
i think video transcription will be a big thing. building 43 has already done it with at least one interview - Tyler Gillies
Jesse, definitely, just shoot it and let it go raw, forget the editing. Also it helps your exposure and compliments your other businesses - Stephen Pickering
Anton - even if they're not regular blog readers, you could use other tools (Twitter, FF, etc) to drive them to your blog. It just gives you an opportunity to have a longer monologue so that when you get into other short-form platforms you've established some cred. - Louise Rasho
yeah raw footage is always fun - Tyler Gillies
maybe I'll try that - I think I may space it out to every other week though. - Jesse Stay
Oh that's fine, every other week, I think, I would look forward to it - Stephen Pickering
Erwin - That's cool. I understand and if you get to know a lot of the people who regualrly comment you get to be able to watch out for the good ones and autoblank the ones who's comments you don't find useful. - Anton Mannering
Well, I think this proves that you might not be a thought leader using Twitter and FriendFeed but you certainly can get discussion going. I think I'll write a blog. :-) - Robert Scoble
Louise - I more meant that, dependin on your subject matter, it's dangerous to assume that people will be looking for your information online. Serious scientists read peer-reviewed journals to be taken seriously that's where you have to be. - Anton Mannering
Louise - But for a lot of things a blog is perfect and easy way to start sharing your thoughts/expertise with the world - Anton Mannering
Absolutely yes, a big yes. Scientists, acedemics, historians, archeologists, artists (except art marketing) are publishing research studies and conceptual papers. They may wind up on TED talks, but they are looking for large grant backing. Social media would be useful to meet others, so even Twitter is fine, but it is all unrelated to their career. - E-Advocate Network
hmmm. Robert, i'm 1 of 7 board members for an indigenous mapping wannabe nonprofit. i volunteered to redev the website. last oct started twittering news about mapping and indigenous issues. save them every month and archive onto the site. few days ago, we had a conference. folks came from different parts of world becuz of the twitter. not because of email marketing. people thought i was the leader or director becuz my writing/twittering in the back of the room with news. - Rosemarie McKeon
You have to have some way of publicizing your thoughts. A popular TV show would work just fine. Given then lack of Twitter or FF posts on Digg etc I would say they aren't yet ways of becoming a thought leader. - Todd Hoff
I think the blog is going to be the central hub of one's identity on the net. It's so cheap to host one. I think it will be the dial tone. So I think Wordpress is the biggest threat to Facebook - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: I disagree. My hub is going to be an aggregator. For now that's either Facebook, FriendFeed, or Plaxo or something like it or maybe Twitter since that's the defacto place most people come to pimp their blogs anyway. - Robert Scoble
Ken: that's a good point and one that I was trying to get to. In the future thought leaders will communicate using a number of different tools, not just 140 character messages. Even the Twitterers I follow the most and like the most are ones who use other tools to communicate with me. - Robert Scoble
Just cause people 'follow' you on FF doesn't mean they _follow_ you, if you follow. (Whee, that's one of those fun words that becomes silly and nonsensical if you repeat it enough. follow follow follow.) - Andrew C (✔)
But with all these widgets you can bring all these services into your blog, and the blog is so much more expressive of who you are, with personalized design elements and so much more flexibility - Stephen Pickering
I don't agree to be a thought leader you need to blog. I also don't agree you need an audience to be a thought leader. To be seen as a thought leader in public, you do. If your goal is to be a thought leader in any industry, then you need to speak your mind, directly to that arena and do it loudly enough to be heard. However you better be prophetic unless you already have an audience... more... - Sheryl
Robert - great question and dialolgue here! Thought Leaders are wise folks that engage, lead, inspire and mentor their respective audiences by a *variety* of methods; including but not limited to blogs. For example, they may author and publish a book, launch a blog, speak at a conference, lead a discussion group, host a podcast, etc. Blogs are just 1 tool in the thought leaders' aresenal, albeit a very key tool at that as it's become an expected tool ... as in your case with JO. - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
When I google Stephen Pickering or Robert Scoble the first thing that comes up is our blogs - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: yes, but that's a historical problem. My blog has been around longer and has had lots more work and links to it. So Google counts it higher. For new users who don't have blogs the same will not be true. - Robert Scoble
I also think JO is a very bright man, but sometimes his thinking is about trends and assumptions, not reality. Reality can tell a very different story. - Sheryl
wow, great way to mine information here!!!! impressed. I truly attest to how great FriendFeed really is. - iTbay
Another key point: seeing a new developing trend, e.g. Steve Rubel's adoption of Posterous instead of his former tradtional blog site indicates two things: 1. he wants to speed up and simplify blog posting, and 2. he may feel that lifestreaming is a better way to connect, share and engage with his audience. I'm seeing that folks want more sound bytes, not thesis style content. - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
Sheryl / Ken - I disagree with you there. Audience is everything. That audience may be on Youtube, twitter or Friendfeed or blogs as Ken said, but ithout an audience (it can be a niche one) who are you leading? Where I'd disagree with Ken is that these are not the Platform these are only the medium. Previously in peer-reviewed journals the fact that a certain had to be reached to be... more... - Anton Mannering
A question, will you still do longer post and if so won't that be a blog, or is a blog only a blog if you call it a blog. - Kim Landwehr
But If I'm interested in Robert Scoble or Jesse Stay and I follow them, they should be able to monetize their energies and thoughts by way of their blogs. If all of their energies are on FriendFeed or Twitter or Facebook, its only pimping those services and putting money in their pockets - Stephen Pickering
I launched a new blog http://susanbeebe.com on 5/11/2009 and within only a matter of 2 weeks my blog was appearing on page 1 of my vanity search results on Google. Blogs are really fabulous for personal branding and what I call "personal real estate" on the web. - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
Susan, I agree, my blog was only born in March or so - Stephen Pickering
Some jewish guy once said "Do not hide your light under a bushel" Thought leaders who don't influence the world by doing or evangelising are just theorists who affect little. - Anton Mannering
TylerGullies- regarding issue reading FF on iPhone - use a FF client like the BuddyFeed app (no scrolling, etc) - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
And Blogs are so much more flexible. I still think these other services are ancillary, valuable of course but not a hub - Stephen Pickering
Anton: Hey! :) Thought leader doesn't necessarily imply you lead anyone but rather have thoughts that are unique and have potential to inspire. Having a blog will not make us so. Having a platform might, even if someone else is better. Example: Ken is brilliant. You know it, I know it, and he has been blogging longer than the vast majority of internet users. He comes up with amazing... more... - Sheryl
Yes you can be a thought leader without a blog or even be in public, its just a matter of scope of audience. You can be a Thought Leader within a Company, a department, within a community, etc. Believe or not, most people never heard of the people on these lists. So these are just Thought Leaders in areas that interest people that read Blogs, Tweets, Social Media or Tech. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
But if you are a thought leader don't you want to monetize it? - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: I know some thought leaders who do it because they just want to be seen as the expert in that field. - Robert Scoble
Google monetizes, Facebook monetizes, Twitter and Friendfeed certainly plan to, so what's wrong with an individual? - Stephen Pickering
Hmm.. I disagree with you here Ken. I think that's 'Old Media' thinking. If I went on TV to speak about particle Physics everyone (especially particle phycicists) would be like "who the hell is this guy?". But the fact that I was on TV would give me a platform of a kind as people assume that the TV station checked me out. With new media there is no-one to check credentials so the only... more... - Anton Mannering
think most true thought leaders find money to be a horrible metric. I know several now vested and moderately rich start up CEO's who are still frustrated because their ideas didn't get to be as big or as impactful as they want. Money is a horrible metric: just look at the rich CEO of AIG..thought leader? Smart? - James Watters
I bet Malcom Gladwell doesn't consider money a horrible metric - Stephen Pickering
Hey Sheryl. :) I disagree (I know you're shocked lol). YOu can't be a thought leader unless you're leading. And you can't be a leader without followers. There's nothing wrong with being brilliant and not being followed not all thinkers are leaders. Sometimes one mans great ideas aren't recognised until a leader picks them up and champions them. - Anton Mannering
Anton Particle physics is dead. We have strings now! - Stephen Pickering
Stephen - See I told you the physicists would be horrified. :) - Anton Mannering
Robert there are some out there that have others blog FOR them so they can be seen as thought leaders in their field. ;) - Jim Turner
The determinists were horrified by Einstein's findings and Einsteins was horrified by Quantum Mechanics. We need horrified physicists! - Stephen Pickering
Anton I am not shocked at all and I'm honored to even be involved in this discussion. Now, having sucked up, (was that a 'leading' statement?) I would say to you, I believe you're misinterpreting the word leader here. To be a leader you need only have the potential to influence, not that you have actually done it. It's about original ideas and thoughts, content if you will. Many people... more... - Sheryl
Ken - That my friend is exactly my point. Those credentials that you build over time... that is the platform! Everything else, as you said, is a stupid network, a collection of tools. - Anton Mannering
And Einstein was just a lowly patent clerk - Stephen Pickering
No serious thinkers or CEO types I know read Malcom; he is considered 'pop' - James Watters
Depends on the context I suppose. I don't think there is any arguing that Jack Welch (@jackwelch) is a thought leader. A notable early trait was his resistance from using a computer. - Rick Bucich
LOIC seems to like him :) - Stephen Pickering
I don't consider Welch a thought leader. He was an executer. Peter Drucker was the thought leader behind GE's massive resurgence - Stephen Pickering
Thought leadership is subjective. Case in point, what Rick above me said. I have no idea who Jack Welch is. He is not a thought leader to me, and yet he may be incredibly bright and articulate. That I have never heard of him doesn't make him less a thought leader. Only means he has his own niche. - Sheryl
Sheryl: Jack Welch ran GE for years and is widely seen as one of the best executives ever. - Robert Scoble
Stephen #ironic given the Loic discussion today :) Interesting that the other day Jack Welch said a dog could have run GE in the 90's because of positive macro trends; most company performance is due to industry trend - James Watters
That was him being modest. All the greatest are modest, Buffett, Sam Walton - Stephen Pickering
Ken, I was just thinking about Van Gogh in terms of this. What about the visionaries who are tragically 50 years a head of their time. Van Gogh could have blogged until his face turned blue. He was not going to be accepted and that is just the truth. He knew it, so he became a "do-leader" I guess you could say, and focused on being a prolific creator. - E-Advocate Network
Robert: it doesn't change my opinion that you've explained who he is. He may be a thought leader to you, but to me he is just a man on the street. Does that makes sense? Now...if I met him...and he said something that made my ears perk up, I would likely think differently. In the meantime, anyone may be a thought leader in their own circle. That one person has a big audience takes nothing from those who haven't got one. - Sheryl
Emily Dickinson never published a poem in her lifetime - Stephen Pickering
E-Advocate Network: Funny because that was exactly what Ken said to me before he wrote that down about Van Gogh! :) - Sheryl
Ken - No he wasn't. He was a brilliant man whose genius was only recognised after his death. Which inspired the expressionist movement in Germany. The leadership was not his though. In fact Nietzche had as much to do with that as anyone. - Anton Mannering
Ken - Picasso though was a thought leader par excellence - Anton Mannering
Too much invested in the concept of thought-leadership. I'm just happy to be participating in conversations about what I consider to be relevant thoughts and theories. It is first and foremost about context. I think this is a perfect case in point. - Jerry Schuman
You can be a thought leader via voice.... but more people will find you if you blog about what you talk about on-air and in podcasts. - Lisa Osborne
Scoble is the catalyst for this. I know I kiss ass, but its true, none of the other "important people" as Guy Kawasaki terms them engages us everyday folk like Scoble does. Why is that? He's as busy as the others - Stephen Pickering
Jerry: ^5 I couldn't agree more! - Sheryl
Lisa: I agree with you. I do a weekly podcast and I write a blurb about it. I also write the occasional blog post. Still, many people come to my site via search. - Sheryl
Yes, oh I'm not dissing Guy, I love Guy, Tim O'reilly, Leo, and all the rest - Stephen Pickering
E-advocate/Sheryl - Unfortunately if you're too far ahead of your time you're not a leader. It's tragic and horrible but there you are. The Country of the Blind by H.G. Wells is a cautionary metaphor. - Anton Mannering
Anton,and I have the scars to prove it. - Jerry Schuman
Anton: I love you! :) I don't think we're that far apart with thought's not really, I just think we have some minor differences ;-) - Sheryl
Does YouTube count as a blog? I think any form of user generated content can allow a person to step into an audience and be a thought leader. A blog is just a mechanism. I'm not talking about replacing a hammer with a saw either. I think there are plenty of mechanisms to get in front of an audience and we're likely to see many, many more. - Dave Saunders
Ken - Guy is an interesting case. Do you not listen to him because of the tools he uses or because you feel he has "worn out his credentials" so to speak? - Anton Mannering
No, I think he was just asking - Stephen Pickering
Ken: I don't mean to pry and I meant only in general terms. You response though indicates to me that you don't trust the messenger. - Anton Mannering
Sheryl: Oh no, I was caught yapping away about academics and artists. Anton: Agreed on Picasso- he achieved fame while alive. He was outstanding and much more articulate than Van Gogh. He had a slight edge- being "avant guarde" was somewhat interesting to the art world at the time. It still required heavy lifting for acceptance and Picasso had that brilliance. Other artists before him had to crack the academies. - E-Advocate Network
A blog or some other long-form, semi-permanent body of work that belongs to you I believe is required to be a "thought-leader". As both a producer and consumer, I think this will become even more important as information flow gets more fragmented, higher volume, and unfortunately, lower quality. FF, Twitter, et al are great for finding thought leaders and getting bits of insight but at the end of the day, real value comes from a smart person putting hours/days into a robust article/blog/essay. - David Ziembicki
Ken: It goes to my point earlier about the platform being the trust you have for the person not the particular tool they uses to transmit the message. Basically to me Platform = "The reason I listen to you". In the old days a soap box was used as a literal platform, and was used to "stand out from the crowd" and the crowd paid attention because you were higher up. As things developed the "platform" became more figurative. For instance a politicians "platform" is the fact he was elected. - Anton Mannering
Anton: The politician being elected may not be elected at all but they may have bought their way into office quite nicely ;-) - Sheryl
Michel De Montaigne became a thought leader without a blog. As did Adam Smith and Emile Durkheim! - Mark
Sheryl: That can happen. I would suggest though that in that case his legitimacy is questionsed and his "platform" becomes somewhat eroded. Everyone will start to question everything he does much more. :-) - Anton Mannering
Ken: I'm not so sure we are totally aligned here, but I'll be writing a blog post pulling together all my thoughts on this and you can call around and berate me if you think I'm wrong. LOL ;-) - Anton Mannering
Anton: In art that may be hard to find now. We expect it to be wierd, finally. For this discussion, an interesting question may be are there any thought leaders to whom a blog might greatly alter your perception of them? - E-Advocate Network
E-advocate - I agree somewhat re Art, but perhaps people are looking in the wrong place. Regarding your question: I don't think so. It would depend what was in the blog posts. If they continue the same quality using a different tool then great. - Anton Mannering
@Robert, being a thought leader has nothing to do with writing a blog or not. It is a label put on you by others. It does imply you need to express and interact over your thoughts very frequently, but that can be done anywhere. Given the broadcasting and interaction possibilities on Twitter and Friendfeed you would be heard faster there. I know from experience that writing long,... more... - Alexander van Elsas
BTW on the general topic here neither Jeremy or Robert are thought leaders but the guys they talk to every day are. - Anton Mannering
Steve: that isn't what I asked, though. - Robert Scoble
Twitter and FriendFeed would be perfect for: Thought leaders in mathmatics, computer science or a similar field who can write a technical journal that revolutionizes their field, but just can not dumb down what they do and have never been good writers anyway. - E-Advocate Network
Hey, I have a blog, but whenever I try to do Thought leadership, Scoble slaps me down... then again, I usually deserve it... - The Web's Wendell Wittler
A great Twitter stream belongs the head of Warchild. She can rarely give away her location, let alone blog as she in war zones most of the time. She is a thought leader and we would never know her experiences if it was not for short form. For some it is not choice but the only way. - E-Advocate Network
Thought leadership is innovative thinking - this can be done in a narrative way on a blog, a visual way on video, and short succinct way here on FF/Twitter ... now thinking of it I think thought leadership is almost obsolete -- give our ability to crowd source ideas. I think the should be "pattern recognizer" or "synthesizer" or "insight spinner" or whatever .. - Beth Kanter
I misread this and thought you wrote, "Can you be a thought leader without a DOG?" Now that would be an interesting question too. - Amy℠
Actually you can be one thought leader that spread the idea of being a thought leader that don't uses a blog, you just have to show how - Felipe Lopes
absolutely - Patricia
Blog does not equal thought leader. In today's age, a blog is becoming one tool to present ideas and interact with others. - Ted Kinzer
Thought Leaders need media to spread their thoughts, share ideas- its not necessary they need to have blog.. look for yourself you will find numerous examples of them.. - Saravanan
Of course, but if you are a thought leader, a blog is a good place to share your thoughts. - Francine Hardaway
If you have a good thought dropping it into the right pond where the other fishies will munch on it and spit it back out would lead me to believe that FF with some heavy hitters subscribed to your feed. Not too many folks read my blog per google analytics but I like doing it so I do much like my aggregating things here. - Mathew A. Koeneker
You can certainly be a thought leader without a blog, IMHO. To say otherwise is to assume that all thought leadership must necessarily be only pertinent to the subset of populations that are connected to the Internet and that understand how to communicate using social media tools. I don't think anyone could credibly argue that all thought leadership is that narrowly constrained. That said, it certainly can't HURT. - Scotty Perkins
To be a Thought Leader you must have a) Original Ideas that are b) Somehow Disseminated, either c) Directly or through Credible Intermediaries to a d) Large Following and e) Sustained through Practice. and f) Influence Social/Governmental Decisions. So the First Critical Link is (b) .Today, dissemination of ideas occurs mainly through broadcast or dead-tree media. Increasingly, the... more... - Murli Nagasundaram
wow, you got to F), thats a heavy duty list. - James Watters
Holy crap, this thread proves my point. How could these many comments from everyone prove that Robert is being a thought leader. Robert, I can barely hear your voice in here. Case in point. Case closed. - Jeremiah Owyang
Robert, I wrote this for you: http://www.web-strategist.com/blog... - Jeremiah Owyang
I responded my own thoughts in the comments of Jeremiah's post. I've got a blog post in the making I think, too - still putting together my thoughts on this. - Jesse Stay
Isn't friendfeed a form of microblogging? - Khürt Williams
I would say that FriendFeed is more of social discussion platform then microblogging. - Usman Bashir
Yeah, maybe, as social medias rule.. but a blog is an important item in the whole system. ;) - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Of course, you can. Being a thought leader means contributing original ideas that affect the way people think. You don't need a blog to do that. - Leslie Carbone
A media is required to express the thinking - thus 'thought leaders' actually 'do' rather than 'think' because without a medium, there is nothing to exchange. The issue about having a blog or not is meaningless - the choice of medium today is based upon it's ability to spread an expression, not an idea - and that means reproduction. Anything digital is reproducible - an expression... more... - zeroinfluencer
"Can you be a thought leader without a blog?" Yes. - Greg J. Smith
Leaders are nothing, without people to help/to 'give directions' to. Blogs -and- other (social) medias are tools for them to do so. - Thierry R. Andriamirado from email
Which came first, thought leaders or blogs? Did thought leaders exist before the internet? Can you name one modern thought leader that doesn't have a blog? Not all thought leaders are good at spreading their thoughts to the masses, but they are smart enough to surround themselves with those that are (or perhaps they just attract them). Not every "thought leader" is a spring. Some are... more... - April Russo
April, yes - this is the difference between Synthesizers and Generators. The reality is that we are all 'thought directors'. - zeroinfluencer
Yes. In this age of collective thought, leaders are able to ask the right questions and engage people in insightful dialogue. Maybe we just need a feature or method for dialogue/thought leaders to synthesize threaded discussions like these in order to capture knowledge. - Steve Levin
I think you're over thinking it - Jesse Hattabaugh
Part of the issue is "thought leader" is community dependent. In order to be perceived as a thought leader, you have to be visible in the tools that that community uses. For example, I have been blogging much less since starting to use FriendFeed and Twitter, which connects me to one community, but disconnects me from my still large blog reader community. I tweeted and FriendFeeded a... more... - Richard Akerman
What i need is someone who wraps discussions like this up ;-) Otherwise: to many thoughts to follow! - erwin blom
Great thoughts ... from non-bloggers : http://www.stanford.edu/~somik... - Meryl Steinberg
Wrap. - Jay Collier
Late to the discussion, but will answer anyway since I'm egocentric enough to think you'll be interested in my response. Yes, you can be a thought leader w/o a blog, Robert. You'd be a thought leader if you were standing on a street corner discussing English Muffins. It's who you are, not the medium you choose to express yourself with. However, as I'm proving by this long response,... more... - Molly
Robert -- you're a thought leader in your respective medium. So no matter the tool you use, they'll follow you. So yes, you can be a thought leader with out a blog. Once you're an influencer people will watch your every move. Especially since the area in which you're a thought leader is the interactive space. We look to you for guidance. Now if you walked the public streets here in... more... - Ramsey Mohsen
Yes you can. There were thought leaders before the era of blogs. Being influential is medium-independent. - Volkan Özçelik
Wow- Sorry if I repeat anything as I am tired and couldn't read everything posted before me.... YES, you can be a thought leader without a blog, but you do need to express long-form thoughts. Nobody will ever be a thought leader through Twitter, Friendfeed, or even Facebook (unless it is completely open). Twitter and Friendfeed, as we have all mostly agreed, continue the conversation,... more... - Daniel Zarick
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