I don't think Dave believes in evolution.
- Cliff Gerrish
Alright, it's getting crowded in here! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Cliff, exactly. Unless he wants to re-specify part of a self-frozen spec himself, of course.
- Matt Mastracci
I find that it's a little easier than it used to be to find hard-core discussions on science and tech now that there's less tech-industry-gossip-circle-jerking.
- Christopher A Carr
Oddly enough, I haven't given Andrew a thought since the last time he was on the show either...
- Ken Sheppardson
Apparently you just need to open it and reflash the Micro-SD.
- Matt Mastracci
The hardware specs on the Nook should be providing better performance - I think a Firmware update will correct most of the release issues
- Rob La Gesse
What about the e-ink screen on the Nook? Can it meet the Kindle with its specs?
- Matt Mastracci
Kindle on iphone is good enough in a tight spot but not comfortable
- Barbariccia
I didn't think so either till I got one. I email my PDFs etc there too. It's awesome.
- Karoli
I read Gods of Mars on my iPhone... worked well
- Jerry Schuman
I've used the iPhone one a few times... works well for travel.
- Matt Mastracci
I read the free "Red Mars" book on iPhone kindle, then bought the paper books for the trilogy in a store
- Matt Mastracci
I read @paulcarr's book on my Droid this weekend in HTML
- Kevin Marks
Didn't know Kindle rendered web pages / browser... product advertising fail
- Susan Beebe
H+ magazine is a good example of a progressive publication. They started out as a PDF form of the paper magazine, but quickly morphed to a rich experience after everyone complained.
- Matt Mastracci
I love using Google's FastFlip on my iPhone. Not a bad magazine interface
- Jerry Schuman
I think Charlie Stross has done well giving away "Accelerando" for free...
- Christopher A Carr
I don't think that rich, wild layout format works on the web or on a tablet.
- Matt Mastracci
now Scobles holds up Kindle hoping we won't notice him looking at that "Make" magazine!
- Susan Beebe
Books in print and books on screens will coexist.
- Cliff Gerrish
Agreed - most users still consume content in both mediums
- Susan Beebe
Eventually paper books will start to decline, but it'll be after we force the publishers to remove DRM on the books and let us transport them across machines.
- Matt Mastracci
plus they're offloading their operational costs for the amazon mp3 store via AWS. A nice flat TCO
- Jerry Schuman
Legacy Tech -> Early Piracy -> Highly Controlled Tech -> High-Fidelity Piracy -> Openness
- Matt Mastracci
I want the audio version included when I buy a digital book - let me move from audio to digital, depending on what I am currently doing. And keep me in the right place between the two.
- Rob La Gesse
Think you'll see some interesting stuff at CES regarding this.. The strategic partner I'm working with is going to be demoing some pretty cool stuff regarding playing content across devices.
- Jerry Schuman
I want all my media (audio/video/books/docs/mail) on a server at home, backed up to a cloud and synced to a personal device. Everything available, all the time.
- Matt Mastracci
Ken - great idea! You can check out topics, not sure about filtering sources
- Susan Beebe
Ken: no. On Techmeme they choose the sources and you have no control.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not talking about Techmeme, per se, I'm talking about a service that presented data and stories in the same way, but selected only from among the sources I specified
- Ken Sheppardson
also, earlier Steve said that USteam had overtaken Qik on the iPhone. The thing is, is that Qik was the first to offer live video on the (jailbroken) iPhone. Apple have hamstrung Qik - very unfair. Though the quality of UStream is indeed excellent. Best thing about UStream is that you can record as well as broadcast live - from the desktop or mobile
- kosso
The top story on TweetMeme is NSFW, btw :)
- Matt Mastracci
I will email robert our real google analytics now - if he wants them
- Nick Halstead
I use tweetmeme button on my blog too, does help get more uniques!
- Susan Beebe
Nick, you should output iframes instead of images with your JS. I think some of those toolbars count those frames as impressions.
- Matt Mastracci
Gabe sounds very _very_ defensive. Think he should loosen up a bit.
- Josiah Kiehl
Scoble - tell Steve I want to be on the show next time round - so I can fight my corner here - he is talking complete rubbish
- Nick Halstead
Scoble, can Gillmor call Nick and add him in over Skype?
- Matt Mastracci
Nick should definitely be on GG next!
- Susan Beebe
i do agree with Gabe actually. Though Tweetmeme has a lot of button installs (congrats Nick) I think the stats are simply hits on the Javascript - not to the site itself. I could be wrong. ;p
- kosso
Are we going to get to the Google Openness Manifesto soon?
- Ron Schott
Nick: is Tweetmeme editorialised in any way? Or is it simply weighted on the number of clicks on the retweet buttons? [out of interest]
- kosso
hahah! Microsoft missed that the internet is important - OMG that is epic
- Susan Beebe
just one last funny comment on Gabe saying he doesnt know what TweetMeme is: the first time I met him in SF he said 'When are you going to rename your service' - at which point I just laughed
- Nick Halstead
Microsoft is monolithicly slow, cause they're monolithicly sized.
- Josiah Kiehl
Settle down people, I wanted to Scoble to define Tweetmeme. I didn't say that I hadn't heard of it. I think it's important to define what he means by Tweememe because there are 2 faces to the service: 1. button provider , 2. link aggregator
- Gabe Rivera
@kosso the ranking is based upon 3 elements, score, velocity + age - score is based upon about 10 factors, but a lot made up of the authority of each twitter user who tweets the link
- Nick Halstead
You don't have to choose between slow and massive.
- Matt Mastracci
@gabe please dont try and speak for our service - you know nothing about our stats - the button is a tiny % of our traffic for the main site - just because TC say something doesnt make it true
- Nick Halstead
You do have to be specifically focused on NOT being slow if you are massive. This is why startups have a chance: they're naturally more agile.
- Josiah Kiehl
"The Road Ahead" was 1995, right? Would be interesting to read it again today.
- Ken Sheppardson
Karoli - Happy Holidays to you too! ;)
- Susan Beebe
I think the difference is that Google's revenue increases when the web is more open. Microsoft's decreases. It's how the companies are set up.
- Josiah Kiehl
a friend's 15 yr old kid bought a netbook from money earned from babysitting job- more people getting on net
- Tim Jones
The TechCrunch article about how Android is going after Windows Mobile rather than iPhone made a lot of sense.
- Josiah Kiehl
If you want to compare Microsoft, consider some of these products: Flash (closed, private development), Silverlight (closed source, private development), Windows (closed source, private development), Chrome OS (open source), Chrome Browser (open source), Google Web Toolkit (open source).
- Matt Mastracci
Mobile is where M$ needs to focus to get back in the game
- Susan Beebe
A friend of mine works on the WinMo team. He told me they recently ported IE6 to WinMo. THAT's a step forward, eh? eh?
- Josiah Kiehl
Chrome browser been on Windows since Sept 08. Zune UI on WinMo 7 would be great
- Tim Jones
Microsoft is a few years behind on mobile. The focus on back-compat hobbles them. They can't release a WinMo that breaks 10 year-old-apps, but Apple can break compat from year to year.
- Matt Mastracci
I'm going to get a copy of Win7 for my Mac too. I already do silverlight develop that way.
- Cliff Gerrish
I still run Windows, but it's in a VM for a handful of apps and testing. The total number of non-web apps I interact with is pretty low.
- Matt Mastracci
Windows 7 surprised me. It's actually a worthwhile OS, from a usability point of view. I actually took some of Win7s features and configured my Ubuntu install to behave similarly.
- Josiah Kiehl
I haven't had to boot(camp) in to Windows for over a month now. This is the longest in my pc-based career ever I haven't need it. I feel overwhelmingly *safer* ;) - No trojans etc ;)
- kosso
Micah - yeah. They have to retool part of the Office release before they can continue selling it. The docx load/save functionality is infringing, which is a big part of the new format.
- Matt Mastracci
yeah, I saw that. The XML feature is "little used"? I thought docx _was_ xml.
- Josiah Kiehl
haha gotcha. I'd get a netbook if it could support the high resolution on my new 23" Dell monitor
- Susan Beebe
RE: iPhone. It seems bizarre to me that you still have to kill an app to open another app.
- Christopher A Carr
i'm such an edge case for smart phones - the screens are just way too small. that's why i'm looking for a tablet that I can use as a remote view onto my servers
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yes, that does suck. My old BB handled multiple apps just fine
- Susan Beebe
I think that's got to be spin. The patent is basically on how you serialize a document on the screen to XML. Unless they've got a way to sidestep some of the claims, it'll be a big job.
- Matt Mastracci
Hence Android > iPhone OS. :) Apps like Locale, however, are the reasons I have an Android phone.
- Josiah Kiehl
my iPhone is my 'communicator', 'informer', 'connector' and 'entertainer'. It just works. I've never had a phone that I use for more things other than phone calls - ever.
- kosso
I just noticed loren feldman managed to slam the GG and scoble while dumping on the praise for calcanis http://bit.ly/7ckTYz
- Paul E. Ester
phone for quick info, but for moving around the screen alot on the go, whips out netbook
- Tim Jones
I still have a hard time engaging in conversation on the phone, as much as I use it. I'll usually save a big reply for the desktop when I'm at home.
- Matt Mastracci
Kevin Marks is getting huge! Easy mate.
- Paul E. Ester
@christopher : iteration should certainly be faster. I *like* my HTC Hero, but I *love* my iPhone. And before I had one (iPhone), I never thought I'd ever say that.
- kosso
The nail in the coffin for me with the iPhone is the tie-in with iTunes, which I despise.
- Christopher A Carr
+1 Christopher... I just want to dump media on it sometimes and I skip it because it's too much of a pain to go through the iTunes gateway
- Matt Mastracci
@christopher I agree with that. I can't stand itunes. but I really do admire how utterly simple Apple have made it to spend money in their ecosystem. Far easier than Google.
- kosso
"When I'm standing next to a Prius, and it suddenly starts moving, without warning, in total silence, it can be startling. After a lifetime of standing next to car engines, I expect a whine, or rumble, or something, to accompany automotive motion. In fact, I suspect it's the anticipation of sound that will drive a trend towards EV Audio."
- Mike Doeff
These guys are pissing me off..give me a break talking about how much better the apps are - Android just needs a little more time until the apps are mature - iPhone didn't have apps at first. The 1st version of the Facebook app wasn't perfect, there have been enhancements, upgrades etc
- Kenny
Android is where the market is heading, more so outside the US, where iphone is a bit player.
- mark w webster
mark: when I travel overseas I see iPhone usage very heavy.
- Robert Scoble
I am very happy with my Droid. The apps are updating for the new Android 2.0. A new update to Twidroid will be out next week according to a tweet from the developer today.
- Mike Shulman
True Robert, but I think Android will only improve as time goes on, just like Apple and the iPhone did.
- Kenny
I can see the back of Robert Scoble's head right now. This is too much real time web. ;)
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
The bar should not be set solely on platform and hardware -- the devs are a huge part of a phone's success. If Android developers step up, and the iPhone stays proprietary to AT&T, that opens up a whole new ball game.
- Mona Nomura
HTML5 may make the apps more irrelevant.
- Rob La Gesse
How is it that guys like this who love Tech, are considered the Top of Social Media all have the worst Web Cams, Audio Levels at all ranges and are crying about cutting each off like they are in some Playground, this is why nobody pays attention to them, blah!
- Lorenzo
the Droid is just one phone. think about the difference between G1 and Droid. the next leap will be just as significant.
- scott anderson
Not if your data plan cannot support it. AT&T's 3G is garbage and I don't have the patience to wait for sites to load. Hence, apps FTW.
- Mona Nomura
HTML5 is key - the new platform for mobile web on all phones
- Kevin Marks
I love all the commentary regarding Apple control of the app store. You should have tried building apps for Verizon. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get an application cleared to be put into their deck. You couldn't even write apps for Verizon if you didn't have a small war chest.
- Jerry Schuman
Even RIM hardcore fans are ready to jump to Android.
- Karoli
I suspect the most disruptive thing to happen to the handset industry will be a regulatory end to carrier lock in in the next 3-5 years.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Lorenzo I am a big fan of these guys. By the way, who was that guy in the East Coast Vegas video?
- PC Easy
Am I really listening to grown men talk about Cell Phones? This country is doomed
- Lorenzo
iphone market share over here tops less than 5%, though app availability is high on buyers minds, Android is making good strides in that area, it's a two horse race IMO.
- mark w webster
RIM will be implementing WebKit browser in 2010
- Marc Delurgio
RIM hasn't progressed - at all, and their attempts have been nothing but FAIL. BB Storm? Really??
- Mona Nomura
Scoble - I have ridden with you while you use a cell phone for navigation - it is VERY scary!
- Rob La Gesse
Palm Pre was introduced only recently here, a real Turkey, just in time for Xmas.
- mark w webster
Lorenzo - I've seen you on Twitter and I know you use vulgarity.
- PC Easy
Apple doesn't do cloud services. A single iPhone app developer will have a hard time competing with Google on that front.
- scott anderson
Android will take over handsets because Windows Mobile is pitiful and iPhone OS is not available to 3rd-party devices.
- Raphael, Raphael
PCEasy, are you not the person on twitter that continues to make horrible comments about Leo's face?
- Lorenzo
Rob: that's because iPhone doesn't do turn-by-turn so you have to look at the screen.
- Robert Scoble
WM is dead, or at least, its in dire need of defibrilation
- mark w webster
I still think the Droid reminds me of the feel of a 80's Transformer. I think the HTC Hero is a much more polished phone and will get better with Android 2.0.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Google Nav does work pretty well, especially since its free, but it does need some improvements - but it's good enough that I canceled my Verizon Navigator
- Kenny
apps will die - web apps will prevail
- Marc Delurgio
The Pre does turn by turn, for free and it works great. I still think the Google map app is pretty good.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Robert Scoble, why is it you top tech geeks cant get your audibles to the same level, let alone have a decent webcam? Also, do you feel that 1938Media is slightly over-rated? Thank you
- Lorenzo
HTML5 is not Reality. Not until we get rid of IE6
- Luke Kilpatrick
Lorenzo: that's Steve Gillmor who has control of audio levels.
- Robert Scoble
Luke: IE6 isn't a problem on smartphones :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
IE6 is dead. anyone who develops for it is a fool.
- Karoli
Who is 1938media? I heard he's telling lies but I blocked him so I don't know what he's up to.
- Robert Scoble
Lorenzo: I don't care. He lies. That's all I need to know.
- Robert Scoble
IE only when my machine needs to dial home to Microsoft for something
- Ken Sheppardson
I tried Chrome in Ubuntu and couldn't access any https:// pages.
- Raphael, Raphael
Yes but as a developer that builds web apps I still have to target IE6 which sucks majorly but its still the standard at enterprise.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Android is licensed with Apache 2.0, a very business-friendly open source license
- scott anderson
Every iPhone developer enters a royalty agreement with Apple.
- Rob La Gesse
"Large market share" isn't the same thing as "network effect"
- Ken Sheppardson
IE6 is the main reason I like doing Mobile dev better than just core web dev as you only need to target 1 main rendering engine - Webkit. Although there are some differences between iPhone, Andriod and Palm Pre. iPhone has the best implementation.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Still waiting on my Ribbit Voice invite code.
- Jerry Schuman
On the net - Apple could fade like AOL, The Apple Tablet will make Iphone, android Apps quite secondary. Phone will have a much smaller earprint.
- Arnie Klaus
imagine if our phones ran on closed networks
- scott anderson
It's really just a question of whether any node can listen and talk over the network.
- Cliff Gerrish
How do we define variable communities?
- Arnie Klaus
Scott: they would be like IM was for years.
- Robert Scoble
Scott: They do. Call Sprint and ask them if you can use your iPhone on the "open" phone network. Or the device you slapped together from parts you got at Fry's
- Ken Sheppardson
good comment Robert (there's your break)
- scott anderson
Will the textbook publishers allow that to happen without lowering profits? I hope they realize that new form interactive ebooks can create more market opportunities.
- ashish
another great show Steve. Your production keeps getting better.
- Paul E. Ester
"Despite calls for the whisper-folk pair to make Øye's house and techno background more apparent, Declaration of Dependence doubles down on hushed Scandinavian understatement. No drums, unless you count slapped fretboards or squeaking fingers: just two voices, two acoustic guitars, and occasional cello, viola, or one-finger piano plinks. Along with sharper songwriting focus, this go-for-broke softness makes for the most durable, rewarding Kings of Convenience album yet-- a Pink Moon to past efforts' Five Leaves Left. Barring a last-minute José González surprise, it's also probably the best new full-length of its style you'll hear this year."
- Mike Doeff
"San Francisco ranks #25 in the list of 40 major metropolis regions,behind New York (#8), Detroit (#12), Chicago (#15), and Los Angeles (#19)."
- Mike Doeff
from Bookmarklet
It seems like such a simple and whimsical service. You just checkin to places via your phone. But the data that it creates and the way it is published out to your social graph is powerful.
- Mike Doeff
"...listening to customers is not intrinsically good. As always, the key is to synthesize the customer feedback with the company’s unique vision. But that’s often used as an excuse to ignore customers outright. I know I was guilty of this many times. It’s all-too-easy to convince yourself that customers will want whatever your latest brainstorm is. And it’s so much more pleasant to just go build it, foist it on the community, and cross your fingers. It sure beats confronting reality, right?"
- Mike Doeff
"Google Social Search is rolling out, a new service from Google that allows you to easily find material written by people you know and trust."
- Mike Doeff
"Why does the world need two thousand photos of the same band on the same stage, all taken from a slightly different angle. That kind of 360 degree imagery might have been useful on the day Kennedy was shot – not least because it would have kept Oliver Stone quiet – but for a Weezer gig? And what’s the point of checking in on Foursquare at a ticketed event that no one else can get into. You might as well tweet “I’m a dick” and be done with it."
- Mike Doeff
I think this post was very insightful. Too many of us (myself included) our preoccupied with documenting an event for our followers (who are probably not even paying attention) instead of just enjoying the moment.
- Mike Doeff
The Great Google Wave invite thread. Anyone who wants an invite post your Gmail address here and anyone who has invites available please use to invite the people on this list. There are also a bunch of requests in the Invites group here: http://friendfeed.com/invites
I have a few but holding them for a few people who have already asked me. I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com btw. A pain I know but if you can, could you update your comment when you have an account or just delete your comment. Ta! :-) EDIT: Try this site for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
Are people on this list getting invites or at least been told they have an invite on the way? You might have to be patient, it could take a long time for one to come through.
- Kol Tregaskes
Adam, yep agree. Maybe because I did that (month ago though) helped me get mine through from Vijay so quickly!
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol, the invitation process seems to be based on nominations. For example, everytime someone nominates/invites you, you get bumped up the queue for an account until you're at the top and you get sent an invite by the team
- Ysabel Legaspi
Ysabel, ah I see, So lots of people must have nominated me. Darn, so a few users I have nominated could be waiting a looooong time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
if that voting system is right I'm very annoyed. I asked for an invite months ago, now all the numpties are all over it I'm not going to get a look in. It's like I've been sat at the front of a shop queue and everyone's just walking right past me into the shop. I am British but I detest both queuing and waiting, so this is pretty tough going
- Toby Graham
Like most other people, yesterday I wasn't aware of that I «needed» a Google Wave invitation this badly...but now I am!!! quackofdawn at gmail dot com
- Quackofdawn
Please I want a invite :( jesi.nieves at gmail
- Jesi
from iPod
neternity@gmail.com and i promise to send a wave of 100,901 twitter followers to your doorstep each of whom will have averaged 1 tweet in their existence - this might not get me an invite but surely it will get some notice - must have that something special - my google wave invite special sauce ingredient is twitter juice PS Not to be construed as an offer, not valid in any of the 53 US states, do not try this at home, caution: contents are hot.
- Ross Button
Anyone have already a wave invite?. I'm a developers anxious to take a look at wave. jmiguel.rodriguez at gmail.com . Thank you very much in advanced!
- jmiguel rodriguez
trentono gmail com...thanks in advance, mysterious stranger...
- Trent Olson
lol at this point i gotta think that by the time an invite makes it this far down the list i may already be at the top of the official invite list but doesn't hurt to try right? marco [dot] nunez @ gmail - thanks!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'm also trying. As Marco said, it doesn't hurt :) iamclem at gmail. thanks!
- Clément Simon
Hello, I would love to have a google wave invite too. ilteris@gmail.com thanks!
- ilteris
Oops! You said gmail address: marybaumcreative (at) gmail. Although I run marybaum@marybaum.com through gmail servers too.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from email
louisrbourque@gmail.com - an invite would be greatly appreciated, and I'll pass it on! Thanks
- Louis Bourque
from iPod
can you send me invite for google wave to i.igors (at) gmail (dot) com
- Igor Krstev
If any kind soul has an invite to spare, it would be gratefully received and shared on once GOOG get around to inviting me in. :-) The key piece of information belatedly being andy.bold@gmail.com kthxbai
- Andy Bold
Looking for one myself at alexscrivener (at) gmail (dot) com
- Alex Scrivener
I'd love an invite. I was sort of expecting to get one from Google, as I have been in all of their other betas, but to no avail :( carlton.prest@gmail.com
- Carlton Prest
Plesae send an invite! jwatson820@gmail.com
- Jonna Watson
damn, the pretty please guy will get one for sure, that steve guy @hotmail.com is likely last on the list - but we all will get one if that scobilizer guy notices that we are all here and asking and so cul cuz we are all on friendfeed - maybe if we twitter too it might help - hello google !!!!
- Ross Button
how do we know which ones are sent? I'm just doing my own thread.
- Raphael, Raphael
I've been too busy to get on FF the last few days....figures something important happening and I missed it! I knew about Google Wave but didn't know there would be a thread to post a request. In any case, better late than never, I'd love an invite at madeliene2007 at gmail.com. :)
- Bonnie Foster
I've been on Twitter all day trying to get one, I'd love it if my day can end by me finally getting an invitation :) I'll be sure to send some invites to other people in this thread! andryou@gmail.com
- andryou
re.renus@gmail.com somebody please send me a invitation... ^_^ : )
- Emad
wimmulder@gmail.com. Am really excited to try this out for a collaborative research project I'm working on. Hoping someone has an invite to spare!
- Wim Mulder
giuliocc@gmail.com . Keen to see if we can shake M$'s cage about messaging and collaboration.
- Giulio Campobassi
Would love an invite - jonathonc at gmail.com
- Jonathon
VitaArdiyana (at) gmail (dot) com, Thanks before Kol. I will delete my comment when i have my google wave account.
- Vimala Vita
Just digging into the comments now but let me begin by saying that you did an incredible job with this thread Kol, 473 (474 after I post) comments!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Google Wave : Could anyone invite me ? : jean.charles.blondeau[at]gmail.com Thanks
- Jean-Charles
System Messages Invite Status: 17559 invite requests in the system. 7 invites confirmed as received by requester. 199 invites claimed as sent from giver.
- oliv21
How does anyone know if someone has already been invited? You could go back and edit your comment when you receive an invitation, but since that takes days, it could be ages before you know.
- marziah
I've not even had a nomination, RK. At google dot com I'm suezanne , in the event anyone wants to make a nomination. I've asked before on friendfeed. It's kind of humiliating to beg.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
i have decided that if i do indeed get an invite, i will decline, forward my gmail account to windows live and put ie back as my default browser and i will bing it
- Ross Button
@Ross: why punish yourself for something you didn't do? :)
- François Dongier
I just want some google love; just like the rest of us do; but n,o they wave at us as they have their private, invite only party; thumb to nose, fingers a waving - that's the google wave; we need a tshirt
- Ross Button
al86shaw@gmail.com :) Not expecting anything, but thanks anyway!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Send to me plz ,,, mxina.com {a} gmail {dot} com
- Mohammad Sharifi
Has anyone received their invite? I haven't yet.
- Rodrigo
from email
I'd love an invite to Google Wave pls. non-geeky bf got one before me! that's just not cricket.. hehe :) icetigerza (at) gmail
- Kim
Hello, if there's any invite left, you'll make me more than happy ;-) matthieu.beauval [at] gmail [dot] com, thank you !
- matthieu beauval
If there are still invites left daryl@learnscape.com.au
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Of all the people posting here the chances of me getting an invite are slim but I'm still willing to try. If someone wants to shoot an invite over to jcallahan126@gmail.com I'd REALLY appreciate it.
- John
from iPhone
Aww Did I miss the Wave of invites? Come on Kol... Hook me up! :)
- Walt Ruppar
It looks like it, although you might be able to use the hyperlink on the front of the Wave homepage to request an invitation, if it's still available.
- Tyson Key
Google Wave Anybody? I needz one plz... walt {dot} ruppar {at} gmail [dot] com
- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
I'll give this a try: j.linkola at gmail - anyone have invites left?
- Jussi Linkola
Anyone can provide a Google Wave invite? bmtrocks@gmail.com
- Brian
Hi guys I realy Waiting impatiently, but still have no invite... can anybody sent me invite please please simplisityzehra@gmail.com thanks in advance
- Zehra
firatdemirel at gmail.com just needs an invite for Gwave. Thanks.
- Fırat DEMİREL
Does anyone have an invite to share? Can you send it to v9y.rec at gmail.com please? Thanks.
- Vinay | विनय
Can somebody send an ivitation to terror@gmail.com . Thanks in advance.
- Yiğit
Please send an invitation to me at trivedi.knz@gmail.com. I got tired waiting.
- Kandarp Trivedi
I'll be glad to invite others on this thread once I get mine. Thanks in advance.. Keep the thread alive.
- Kandarp Trivedi
rodgerdb@gmail.com ha oh man am I late to this thread =( Here's to hoping!
- Rodger Ballard
really need one, would be so grateful thacker90184@gmail.com
- brandon
I want Google Wave invite too, please sent it to: ric4p5 {at} gmail [dot] com Thanks
- jose manuel
If anyone has invites, could I have one please? tekked - gmail.com
- TechKid
allanbesselink<at>gmail<dot>com ... please!
- Allan Besselink
I'll wager that some of the folks on this list have received their invite by now, or no longer want one - I have 16 invitations at this instant. It's probably easier for me if you DM.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
fifiquimbo(at)gmail(dot)com. I would love one, thanks!
- Fifi Quimbo
I have 8 invites to Google Wave, if someone is interested, please DM with e-mail address. Ciao, Andrea
- Andrea Romoli
No, it's different, Karoli. I've also used it a bit, and it's more of a "universal inbox" than FriendFeed. It's just a client, rather than a stand-alone service.
- Ken Sheppardson
Is there a recording of the Tim Berners-Lee conversation somewhere?
- Mike Doeff
thanks, Ken. It's one of those services that definitely interests me...if I ever get in. :)
- Karoli
Nick: I still use RSS too. Saying something is dead is dead.
- Robert Scoble
We individually kill and give life to things every day. I don't use Google Reader much anymore, for instance. So to me Google Reader is dead.
- Robert Scoble
I used to think I'd want a universal inbox, but stuff like Threadsy have reminded me that I really want different "layers"/urgency in my inbox, e.g. SMS > IM > email
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, I still use Google Reader...but only when what I'm seeing on Twitter/Friendfeed doesn't feel balanced to me. I can usually get that balance by going back to GR.
- Karoli
Karoli: lists will bring that balance to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Ken, I'd definitely need filters or I'd just run away from the inbox screaming...
- Karoli
I still use GR - but I have about 10 feeds - the rest I get supplied by Twitter/TweetMeme
- Nick Halstead
the issue i have with tweetmeme, etc is how easily the echo chamber develops. I love it, but want to reach outside of it for info sometimes.
- Karoli
Karoli: I agree - the core categories will always be full of the echo/main crowd - but we will soon launch the ability for you to build your own channels that are filtered to your 'exact' requirements
- Nick Halstead
Used Threadsy 2 weeks ago, and okay concept, needs work still.
- JimmyJet
In the demo yesterday, Microsoft claimed that their Bing/Twitter search results filter out spam and surfaces quality results based on "social relevance"
- Mike Doeff
because it's a beta for a few 1000s....wait for lists to be rolled out...
- Antonella Stellacci
Mike, they're weighting it based on some kind of authority?
- Karoli
so "normal" people don't want to find new friends who share their interests?
- Jerome Hughes
Whatever it is, it's got to work for 'normal' people.
- Cliff Gerrish
@mikedoeff: Who decides "social relevance"? @Scobleizer Who is to say that this "social relevance' will be a democratic system? How can we prevent a new SUL/TechCrunch to happen, with people being disqualified for having "different" views?
- Antonella Stellacci
They called it "social relevance" but didn't really drill into what that means. Maybe some combination of # of followers, number of tweets, age of the account, verified status, etc.
- Mike Doeff
When will "normal" people get access to Twitter lists? I don't have it on my account. I might start using Twitter if I did.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ah...there's the 'track' ref. It's like coming home. :)
- Karoli
Yeah, I'm not one of the cool kids who get the lists feature on Twitter. :)
- Karoli
Potential issue with Twitter lists: Someone posts a list of CIO's. Sales rep's from Oracle, SAP, etc. use that list to pitch their products to those CIO's with @messages or DM's. Or they could find all of the people inside a company by finding a company list. It'll be like a free version of Jigsaw.
- Mike Doeff
lists =meta-data....so discovery of new users is one of the options...
- Antonella Stellacci
@mike u can DM a list? (sry for the stupid question, I don't have lists :(
- Antonella Stellacci
Is there convergence on a standard for lists, or is it too early?
- Cliff Gerrish
I wonder which will win out: sending stuff out to specified groups/audiences, or just sending stuff out to "everyone", and having whatever permissions you've assigned to specific people determine whether or not they see it. I guess it's the same thing. Nevermind. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Antonella, you can't DM a list but it's an easy way to collect twitter id's in a specific niche. You can go down the list and follow people individually.
- Mike Doeff
Robert, I agree - would be a very bad move if PR firm, sales people, etc. abuse the lists features. They'll end up on a PR Twitter blacklist :)
- Mike Doeff
It centralizes with the user -- not with the services. This ties in to the purpose-centric web and the sidewiki discussion.
- Cliff Gerrish
So Threadsy isn't a service? Where's the line between services and clients?
- Ken Sheppardson
So will we see search come to Threadsy streams?
- JimmyJet
Robert: Click on your entry, click "Edit > Disable Comments"
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: no. I want my curation to be public. Arnie: Wave could be useful.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: if I turned off comments I won't have the ability to type anything underneath the item.
- Robert Scoble
Arnie: Wave would be useful if it weren't stuck in the very lame email metaphor.
- Robert Scoble
But is that all you want to do? Be able to add comments to your post without other people being able to do so? I'm a little confused...
- Ken Sheppardson
Arnie: Wave is something I'm watching a lot.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: I want to curate and put it on MY OWN STREAM. Without you being there.
- Robert Scoble
..or you want to use FriendFeed as a text editor?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: FriendFeed doesn't work for what I want.
- Robert Scoble
Wave traps me...I want the ability to opt out of specific waves.
- Karoli
Ken: Private groups don't do what I want. I want a public curation where everyone can watch JUST ME.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Would "only let me comment on this entry" do it?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: very close. But now we need to go further. Let me post a video there. An audio there. A picture there. And bring in other tweets and items.
- Robert Scoble
The reality is that no one's interested in 'only scoble' -- everyone wants to create their own mix.
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert: So... a room where only admins (i.e. you) can post and comment, but everyone can view?
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: absolutely not true. My blog proves you wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm only interested in certain posts from your blog. I don't need the whole stream. You're in my mix, you just don't know it.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: and to rub salt in a wound. Twitter proves you wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Every time Steve says, "Rob?" - I start to answer :)
- Rob La Gesse
Cliff: that's cool. So you are listening to a group curation then.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That's a pretty minor incremental fix, I'd think. Right now there are three types of rooms 1) Private, 2) Standard only admins can post, anyone can comment, 3) Public. Seems like a fourth type where only admins can post/comment but everyone can view would be pretty easy.
- Ken Sheppardson
Hope Threadsy has security for the UN's/PW's they require for each service??
- JimmyJet
Scoble, yes. I use a microcommunity to filter items -- not full feeds.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: even easy stuff takes engineering time.
- Robert Scoble
Threadsy in Chrome gets a basic auth pop up from twitter.com for my API credentials every time it tries to access Twitter :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: I know. I have seen this. Sort of like how TechMeme works.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Sure, but asking Paul to add a fourth room type sure seems easier than casting out some general lazyweb request for curation tools ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Scoble, techmeme is read only. This is a little different.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: FriendFeed has no engineering team working on many new features. I've already asked for new features. I've been asking for this stuff for years.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: Threadsy in Chrome (4): I am no longer getting a request to relog or give permission to twitter. refreshing auto like it should
- amarquart
Does Facebook still prevent developers from caching data for more than 24hrs?
- Ken Sheppardson
Threadsy seems to define the pipe that exists between services. The Oauth issue is critical -- it comes bak to identity.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ken: Windows is Amazon's top seller. I want to be dead like that.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, we are already giving curated content e.g. this channel that is defined by 20 of the top Twitterati - http://twitterati.tweetmeme.com/ - soon these channels can be built by anyone
- Nick Halstead
Ok - i didnt get in on this till now - will it be archived?
- Chris Jackson
Yeah, it'll be published to YouTube in a day or so.
- Cliff Gerrish
Nick: that's not really what I want?
- Robert Scoble
RSS?? (which we all know is dead, ..but still); mp3 ?? Steve, I understand your effort to make a point by inconveniencing us with lack of rss, I get it, but from that stage further it is just pain in the a**.
- Mindaugas Dagys
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- Mike Doeff
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- Mike Doeff
No it's awful, but I'm writing a review series on it for SF Metblogs
- anna sauce
Kinda sad since it's from Friday Night Lights people, and I like them generally
- anna sauce
I'm watching. I agree - it's pretty awful but I like seeing the local sites.
- Mike Doeff
It's so weird that it's not good- I loved Friday Night Lights, I love SF, the subject matter is interesting. So what went wrong?
- anna sauce
I'm not really sure. It does seem to have the right ingredients but it's not really coming together yet. I have a bad feeling that this won't survive the season, which would stink for all of the locals who are working on this show.
- Mike Doeff
yeah friend told me it's not continued, but I didn't ask how he knew
- anna sauce
I like Friday night lights alot. They were filming a scene from Trauma down at the Embarcadero a few months back.
- Thomas Hawk
Yep. It's pretty bad, but I enjoy seeing local scenery.
- Chester
"A combination of friend-finder, city guide and competitive bar game, Foursquare lets users “check in” with a cellphone at a bar, restaurant or art gallery. That alerts their friends to their current location so they can drop by and say hello."
- Mike Doeff