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Even though I don't have a job or own a business, I occasionally feel the need to have a "business" card. There are times when I'm getting acquainted with someone and need to share my contact information and a business card is the fastest and least awkward way of sharing that information. What do you guys think?
Maggie, Penguin It's Cold Outside, Ladybug Heather and 10 other people liked this
In the old days, people had personal calling cards. Some do now too. I think it's a great idea.
- LogEx
Totally! I adore business cards. Sometimes I make up reasons to need and therefore make them. Such as we have business cards for our home haunted house. I think I've used 10 of them. But I LOVE them. And in a pinch they double as a person calling card!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Yes, calling cards. I read this a while ago - it's for men, but probably relevant: http://artofmanliness.com/2008...
- Nick Lothian
I have personal cards. Check out Moo Cards.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
There is even a fail-whale card http://www.thestationerystudio.com/index...
- Nick Lothian
Tiny Prints has 'mommy cards', not that this is what you're looking for.
- Kevin Fox
People I know use Moo Cards. And you can support FFundercats by getting them via their link
- Spidra Webster
Personal business cards are a great idea with space on the back for notes or message
- WarLord
nothing wrong with a personal calling card. more and more ppl seem to have them these days.
- Joe Silence is not dead
yup
- Joe Silence is not dead
Moo cards are cool, or if you want something simple with space for notes: http://www.levenger.com/PAGETEM... or http://www.levenger.com/PAGETEM...
- LogEx
American Psycho: Business Card Scene -- http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I'd definitely include a watermark in my calling card design. :)
- April Buchheit
:)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I've made mini moo cards for this.
- joey
I still have a bunch of Google Voice cards...
- Christopher A Carr
I like the concept that levenger.com presents in that there's space to write additional information.
- April Buchheit
What do you guys think? http://ff.im/cHhzU
- April Buchheit
The cards are a great idea.
- Anne Bouey
Find a letterpress shop; they'll be able to make you great calling cards that cannot be equaled by regular offset printing.
- Clayton Wheeler
Further to what Clayton wrote, if you can find a print shop that still does real engraving, try getting engraved cards - raised ink lettering, using a classic typeface such as Copperplate Gothic
- Victor Panlilio
April, the goal here is to make Paul envious with the understated elegance of your card. :-)
- Kevin Fox
There is nothing wrong with having cards, in fact it's rather smart. Which is why I started printing "friendship cards" for my daughter when she was about 12. I like to include a photo on cards, because if someone can't remember who you are from the info on the card, the photo may jog their memory. Put your info on one side and a nice photo on the reverse. They are also good for giving to friends and family when you move, and they will not only have your new info, but a nice photo for their wallet, too.
- April Russo (app103)
I think cards are a great idea, too; i also think "American Psycho" was a very funny film.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Eggshell cardstock?
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
I say go for it. A woman I play tennis with has Tennis Sub cards. You can find her any morning of the week at our club, subbing in games. I seriously think she saves a fortune in court time that way - pays her $300 annual dues, then not a dime more! (And I think the cards run her $10/a thousand . . .)
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
These days I have people Tweet/Facebook or Bump! / contxt (for non iPhone owners) me. moo cards are so 2008 ;)
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
What's old is new. Yes, as many have mentioned, the idea of a "calling card" harkens all the way back to slightly before ante-bellum South (at least in this country) During the 50's and slightly beyond the practice was part of a students' high school graduation purchases.
- Melanie Reed
How to Deal with Feature Creep | Webdesigner Depot - http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009...
"Feature creep sets in when clients forget that and treat designers as tools instead of problem-solvers."
- Melanie Reed
from Bookmarklet
I go in tomorrow for my unemployment benefits review. Rah... I also have an appointment Friday with a recruiting firm, crazily enough for a position as a recruiter. And it's not in Iowa! Yes, this has turned into a running joke in my household now...
Live4Emma (L4S), Amber, Random Time Lord, Kol Tregaskes and 9 other people liked this
My intern position is still open, and you can telecommute.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Unfortunately, unemployment pays better than you do Mark...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
But it'll look good on your resume! And I won't report you.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
it's kind of like that here in Adelaide (Australia), everybody pretty much moves interstate or overseas if they want to actually pursue a career of some sort
- Loc
MVB what's your internship about? I'm always looking for telecommute positions
- Melanie Reed
It's a running joke, Melanie. Tina one time suggested I need a ghost-friendfeeder.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
MVB, Ach! I always fall for those! :)
- Melanie Reed
Melanie you can be my ghost-Friendfeeder if you qualify: http://friendfeed.com/mvanden...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Thank you MVB :)
- Melanie Reed
12challenge: What's your favorite weather related song? - http://12seconds.tv/channel...
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Jennifer Dittrich liked this
Mine, considering I hate the rain, is Billie Holiday singing "Keeps on Rainin'".
- Admiral Anika
"Isn't It a Lovely Day?" by Fred Astaire
- Spidra Webster
Here Comes the Sun
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
riders on the storm.
- Morgan Haley
here comes the sun. sun king. mmm bop.
- Morgan Haley
It's Raining Men
- Jennifer Dittrich
First one that comes to mind is "Like the Weather" by 10,000 Maniacs.
- Victor Ganata
Possibly "Trial of Tears: It's Raining / Deep in Heaven / The Wasteland" by Dream Theater
- Curtiss Grymala
"96 Degrees in the Shade" by Third World
- jcunwired
"Summer Rain" by Carl Thomas
- Tamara
"blame it on the rain" .... lol. actually, it's probably "baby it's cold outside" or "it's raining men"
- tiffany
Purple Rain
- Adrian
I Can't Stand the Rain (Ann Peebles)
- Adrian
Last but certainly not least... the Dramatics - In the Rain. That is all.
- Adrian
Ain't No Sunshine
- aden
Ride the Lightning - Metallica
- Adrian
I wonder which was first, the Metallica song or the Stephen King story....
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I Can See Clearly Now - Jimmy Cliff
- Rodfather
It Never Rains in Southern California by Toni Tony Toné! ha!
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
I tried my best to sing that here, but my voice is tired. LOL.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I tried too as I was posting. I think somewhere a kitten died I mangled it so badly.
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
Weather With You
- j1m
The Rain Song (Led Zeppelin)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
"7 Days in Sunny June" - Jamiroquai
- Bren, Not Grinchy
"Rain" - The Cult
- T. Brent, technopeasant
"Come Rain or Come Shine" (BB King and Eric Clapton "Riding with the King") http://www.youtube.com/watch... (Although Etta James makes a strong standing) Stormy Weather (Billie Holiday and Lena Horne) http://www.youtube.com/watch... | http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Melanie Reed
Aw Rahsheen, You're going to make me cry. Had that song (CRCS) played at my wedding, :)
- Melanie Reed
Friendfeeders: Who's a good domain registrar that has an email forwarding (MX) service that's a la carte (*not* bundled with a full-blown web hosting package)?
Victor Ryden, Melanie Reed, sofarsoShawn and 5 other people liked this
I use DynDNS for MX Backup (I run my own mail server, but just in case it goes down...used to be on my DSL line). I THINK they have a mail forwarding service as well. I've always liked their services...easy to use and reliable. And IIRC, you can buy pretty much anything a la carte.
- Ken Kennedy
i know DynDNS is good (an old childhood friend is one of their lawyers) but i've been using eNom for years now (reseller account where you have to put in like $100 initially, but can then just let that be your renewal money down the road) - i've yet to use the reseller part of my account, but their prices are fair (from what i can tell) and they do offer it all if you want it
- Chris Heath
Gina Trapani did the legwork last February to find an alternative to GoDaddy http://ginatrapani.org/spun... Based on that data, I moved a bunch of domains over to Namecheap.com--who say they offer free email forwarding--but I handle my own DNS so I haven't used that part of the service...
- Ken Sheppardson
... The transfer process wasn't as smooth as it could've been (had to have their CS folks kick things a couple times), but I don't expect a personal account rep or anything like it from a service with "cheap" in their name. Since the move, I haven't noticed any problems.
- Ken Sheppardson
yeah, forgot about that ken... thanks for the reminder
- Chris Heath
Thank you, gentlemen, this gives me several good options.
- Micah Wittman
I just reg'd a domain with namecheap.com - comes with free email forwarding! All for under 9 bucks. So far, so good :)
- Micah Wittman
You could use google.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, er, who what?
- Micah Wittman
Micah, just saw your post. Yes, I have our NP using Namecheap. And yes, like Todd says you could go with Google (Apps) we use that as well. The MX service works well and use Gapps as our email service
- Melanie Reed
Oooh, I see. Not domain registration, but point the MX record for email service. But that only works for google apps which is $50/yr or something, right?
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, unless you qualify for grant, ie, educational, etc.
- Melanie Reed
I think you can get the standard for free: http://www.google.com/apps...
- Melanie Reed
I use google apps for email and there's no fee for my plan.
- Todd Hoff
http://www.epayvn.info/2009... It does come with MX service
- Melanie Reed
Todd, Melanie - thank you! Me <=== *facepalm* How did I not know they offered a free version.
- Micah Wittman
You're welcome and hope it works for you!
- Melanie Reed
I find it interesting that this is the second time on friendfeed in the past month or two that someone did not know that google apps for your domain are free for under 10 users
- Chris Heath
Deadly Utility - http://www.breakpoint.org/comment...
"Yet this is justified on utilitarian grounds—that is, maximize human happiness. But how is human happiness being maximized by a process that doesn’t work? And even non-Christians see the weaknesses in what is called utilitarianism. Karl Marx, for example, criticized it for failing to take into account how people’s ideas about happiness were unconsciously shaped by cultural and economic forces—what he called “ideology. Daniel Dennett, in Darwin’s Dangerous Idea, questions our ability to even know what increases the amount of happiness. Things that seem to decrease happiness now might, in the long run, actually increase happiness."
- Melanie Reed
from Bookmarklet
Marginal Revolution: Online Education and the Market for Superstar Teachers - http://www.marginalrevolution.com/margina...
Peter Miller, Dimitrios Diamantaras, Dan Morrill AKA Techwag and 3 other people liked this
Yes: "I have argued that universities will move to a superstar market for teachers in which the very best teachers use on-line instruction and TAs to teach thousands of students at many different universities. "
- Michael Nielsen
As a fairly high-touch teacher, I can't say that this prospect appeals.
- D0r0th34
I'm certainly not making a judgement about what appeals - I greatly prefer a small-group, high-interactivity approach, all other things being equal. But most big Universities have deliberately moved toward a model where lectures are delivered in a low-interaction way to a large audience. That's an approach where it makes a great deal of economic sense to try to scale to ever-larger audiences, which seems likely to result in a winner-takes-all kind of market.
- Michael Nielsen
I'm not sure it was entirely deliberate -- "unmindful" is the word I'd choose. But yes. I just wonder if there's going to be a student/parent backlash at some juncture. Are they really getting what they're supposedly paying for?
- D0r0th34
Having talked to a lot of administrators in Australia about this, yes, I think it was deliberate, at least there. A huge chunk of funding comes simply from student-hours taught, and so they try to ramp up numbers as much as possible.
- Michael Nielsen
I don't see much evidence of this in the UK but then few UK universities have been effective at putting high quality course materials online or teaching into a wider market
- Cameron Neylon
the US certainly has a lot of large-lecture intro courses at big unis, but we have some countervailing pressures to (perhaps?) keep us a little more honest: notably, SLACs, small state schools, and other smaller, high-touch schools.
- D0r0th34
Note that some of this is, shall we say, old news. When I attended UC Berkeley (1962-68), undergrad classes were generally either Very Large (200+, frequently 500+), taught by superstar teachers (including most of the Nobel laureates), or Very Small (<40, frequently 20-30), with lots of interaction, taught by combinations of junior faculty and grad TAs. In my fading memory, it worked great...within limits.
- Walt Crawford
Caveat: A few too many Very Large classes were taught by faculty who were only superstars in their own minds. But back then, we had Fybate Notes, so 90% of students in the dud courses just read the lectures rather than seeing them "live" (if reading from your own years-old lectures can be considered live).
- Walt Crawford
Cameron - How does funding in the UK work? Do Universities get paid per student? If so, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't upward pressure on class sizes, leading to massive low-touch classes where there's not a whole lot of difference between sitting in a lecture hall and watching on a screen.
- Michael Nielsen
Dorothea - something interesting about the leading SLACs is their (typically) enormous fees: essentially, you pay for what you get, a nice individualized, personal learning experience. It's a completely different economic model than the massive Universities cramming 500 or 1000 students into a hall, and probably one that's a lot more immune to the kind of thing described in the original post.
- Michael Nielsen
absolutely. the small state schools are the compromise option: more individualized than the big schools, less $$$, less breadth of subject matter, arguably less prestige, sometimes less quality (though for the most part I don't agree with that; there's no more deadwood at a small state school than at Big Research U).
- D0r0th34
it may be worth remarking that from where I'm sitting, our small state schools are kicking butt and taking names in undergraduate research compared to our two Big Research Us. Coincidence? I think not.
- D0r0th34
The model reminds a lot of the MAGIC group: http://maths.dept.shef.ac.uk/magic... "The MAGIC group runs a wide range of postgraduate-level lecture courses in mathematics, using Access Grid videoconferencing technology."
- Dan Hagon
I have been arguing for people to stop lecturing altogether: http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog... Lectures in 2009 make no sense. They are a relic of the past. But as lectures disappear, I don't think the role of the "teacher" will also disappear, it will just transform. I hope we will go back to a form of apprenticeship.
- Daniel Lemire
Daniel, Amen!
- Melanie Reed
Michael, funding is per student up to set maximums, beyond that no more money and there are hard limits annually on how many places are available to bid for. So there is pressure to be efficient and maximise numbers but it isn't open ended. Also very few general courses in UK, most are subject and stream specific so most have relatively small numbers. Maximum I ever taught was 120,...
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- Cameron Neylon
Cameron - thanks for that! It's very interesting, and suprises me. On your last point, the original post was talking about "superstar teachers", and it's clear from context that he meant teachers who are extremely good as teachers, not researchers. (His argument is a standard one in economics about winner-take-all markets like music, sport, etc: superstars with even a slight edge in the...
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- Michael Nielsen
Yes, but you need to create an impression that such people exist and deserve to be promoted first. Which means they need profile, for teaching, outside their own institution. I would guess this is most effectively kicked off by a few "famous" researchers doing some hard work on teaching and then that provides a known niche in which others can also excel. I couldn't name a single person...
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- Cameron Neylon
In the US, Richard Muller has become well known for his course "Physics for Future Presidents", largely off the back of scaling technologies (iTunes etc). When you have the means to scale lectures, it creates a winner-take-all situation, and you expect a market for superstars to emerge. E.g., the record player / gramaphone really helped create the current winner-take-all situation in music, turning it into a far more star-driven market.
- Michael Nielsen
My sense of what is happening at UF is rather like Cameron's last comment -- the so-called "superstar" teachers come from the ranks of researchers, not those who solely teach (per their contract -- the "lecturer" position). In fact, greater kudos are granted to researchers who can also teach than are given for teachers who also do research.
- Mickey Schafer
Michael, I rather like that notion of scalability...it's interesting and a different way for a teacher to consider "students" -- more in the sense of audience. In my recent conversations with non-academics, it seems that their use of the web is not this far-flung ambient surfing that many who hang out here are accustomed to. Instead, they have "go-to" places; and would prefer that major...
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- Mickey Schafer
The impression of a winner-takes-all situation may in fact be illusive. Clearly there will be popular expositors and the internet gives them a platform to reach a much wider audience than a single lecture theater. However the internet also allows individual learners to ability to consume material very specific to their personal learning interests - possibly far beyond a traditional...
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- Dan Hagon
Do you have a best friend?
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Does Bacon count?
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
Yes.
- Alex Scoble
Yes.
- Mary Carmen
Yes. I actually have several.
- Sparky
Yep! I have 2. Sadly, they both live far away.
- Admiral Anika
I have two! I'm lucky like that.
- Bren, Not Grinchy
yep!
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
Yes; just wish he lived closer
- JA Castillo
yes, i married her 11 years ago.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I did. :-(
- Trish R
No. I used to, but he ditched me about 8 months ago. Currently accepting applications for replacement. Have lots of really good friends, tho, which is nice (really nice, I love them all), but I miss having the bubble of it.
- Sarah G.
I guess so, I used to have a true one in high school, but then he just left one day and I haven't heard from him since. I have some that I consider really close friends, but no one I think I can put at best friend.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Want one but haven't had one since the early '90s.
- Spidra Webster
Yes.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
*sniff* I have two, but they're about to be really far away
- Thursday Lo :)
Yes, a couple.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
not really. my old one got tired of me and i sort of hate saying my partner is my best friend even though it's probably accurate.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Yes.
- Jim Hearts FF
Akiva!
- Rochelle
I have in the past, but right now, there isn't one person in particular that I'd call my *best* friend. I have a lot of very very good friends, though.
- josh neff, geek at large
I don't think I do. I have a lot of friends whom I love dearly -- a lot of them through FF, etc. -- but no one is at the top of that list. I don't know if they makes me sad or not.
- Derrick
Ummm yeah - been married 13.5 years! :D
- Internet's Tad
Yeah Niels, he's been there always. Even if I'm crap at picking up the phone and calling he never ever lets me know. He just knows that that's me so he is there. He was there when my mother had cancer. When I went into the dumps for a bit, he pulled me up and helped me find a job and get going again. I really don't deserve such a great friend but I am super happy that I do have him.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Yes. My husband is truly my best friend. But I'll fill out an app to be Sarah's new female best friend.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Yes
- Steve
yes
- VAL D. Zone
my wife
- Bill Kinney
Used to.
- Clark Baumgartner 蔵明 馬武刀
from iPhone
Two - one I've known since we were 5, the other since high school.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
Yes, two, and both live so far away from me, it's almost unbearable sometimes.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I have two, neither of them live in Texas. It sucks
- aden
Definitely, my partner is my best friend.
- Sam Carlson
Now, I want a best friend! I feel incomplete. :(
- Derrick
yes. and i have a partner who is a close runner-up. bff and i have known each other since we were 12.
- tiffany
I sure do... Two actually
- Marissa
2 :)
- Michael W. May
Does my fiance count?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
My husband.
- Judy Jones
Yep - we've been best friends since early high school.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I guess not. A lot of lifelong friends though.
- Rodfather
I have one person I think I'd classify as a best friend outside of a relationship. My best friend Jameel has had the title since he moved in next door to me when I was 6 years old. We've been like peas and carrots for thirty years. Crazy. I still speak with him at least once a week.
- Cheryl
Yep.
- Laura Lou Who
hee! peas and carrots. me and my homie are more like PB&J or ham and cheese :-)
- tiffany
yup
- AJ Batac
No, I have a few
- Shevonne
Okay maybe peas and carrots is little tame. We're more like...like...hot apple pie and ice cream? Cookies and cream? Chocolate cookies and milk? Great...now I'm hungry.
- Cheryl
My wife.
- Mark H
Not anymore.
- cecily
I used to.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe two
- maxilprof
Jesus, the gardener. of souls.
- Morgan Haley
Yep, maybe, I don't know. Do the ones in my head count?
- Jimminy
I don't know if I have a best friend or not. There's one guy that knows everything about me and my past, but he lives in Berlin most of the time. Then there's another guy that knows almost everything about me and my past, and we hang out a lot.
- Morgan Haley
So I guess it would depend on the definition really. does a best friend need to know EVERYthing about me and my past?
- Morgan Haley
I married mine.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
No. My daughter has a problem understanding that. All people have best friends, she says.
- Baard @ Pixum
complicated... I have 3 very good friends from childhood on, but I won´t consider them as "best friends". there´s always someone closer for a period of 2 or 3 years. usually my life changes then, and I exchange my whole little universe and the bestest friend with it. (somehow creepy, I know..)
- esther ♥ ♫
@Baard, Freya seems like your best friend to me :)
- Michael W. May
No.
- Nine
no, not anymore. some close friends, but not any one best friend.
- holly
Yes.
- Melanie Reed
if I enumerated all my friends (all 4 of them), and ranked them in some order, one of them would be better than the others. In that sense, yes, I have a best friend ;) In the colloquial "bff" sense, I don't really think so.
- DJF
First name "Tiny," second name "pants," although she goes by many other names. :)
- Jenny R.
Akiva!
- Akiva Moskovitz
but of course
- L Stephen Cleary
Yes.
- Jason Huebel
...with benefits.
- sofarsoShawn
Yep.
- Alix Whitmire
No.
- Mo Kargas
My wife is my best friend in general. I don't have any really close best guy friends anymore.
- Give 'Em DBizness
No, I have a Hetero Lifemate though.
- Rob Haas
I said "yes" before, but I have to admit I haven't had a best friend since I moved back from NYC. Rob mentions having a "hetero lifemate" and I suppose that's what Paul was. *feeling lonely*
- Jason Huebel
Of Course..!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Yes, though he's currently living on the East Coast. My second best friend lives there as well.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
oh! I totally have a best friend! a couple of them! there's my girl Elizabeth back on the east coast. and there's my friend Chris (with whom I have been friends with since 1st grade!)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Float like a butterfly, ____________________
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Sting like a knee...to the head.
- Alex Scoble
leave my cocoon alone so I can?
- Melanie Reed
bling like autotune.
- Micah Wittman
eat like a pig
- Joe Silence is not dead
pee like a gypsy
- sofarsoShawn
Micah, OT: whatever happened to our baby elephant? Did I miss the birth? This thread jogged my memory :)
- Melanie Reed
Mel, I searched for news on it a few days ago - no announcement yet. It's supposed to be this month or next :)
- Micah Wittman
Stink like a Bean
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
(for the curious: http://bebepool.com/panang )
- Micah Wittman
...swing like a bat
- imabonehead
Just found it and you and I guessed this week. ;) SO we lost? It was this week :(
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, yeah I guessed today but at least I'll be closest at this point. Factoid: Panang, the mother, was born in 1989 in the Zurich zoo http://www.upali.ch/zoo_bor...
- Micah Wittman
Boy, I hope we hear something soon and she doesn't have still born again. :(
- Melanie Reed
"The fittest." You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. In a perverse way, Pangloss was right about the universe. But, mostly, what evolution actually optimizes for may not necessarily be what we consider optimal.
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A nice aria was had as a result of Voltaire's "Candide" ( Glitter and Be Gay- my favorite version is Kristen Chenoweth) which I have enjoyed. But I always have trouble with the fact that Voltaire said the Bible would disappear within 100 years of his death. It has not although he is dead. And his Pangloss philosopher seems not what I would consider an optimal companion.
- Melanie Reed
I'm #reading A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving - http://www.goodreads.com/review...
Melanie Reed liked this
Really liked the film Simon Birch.
- Melanie Reed
Note to Fellow Christians: Don't assume because someone says they're Christian that they represent represent "good" values. Many horrible deeds have been masterminded by self-professed Christians... deeds that line up better with the Satan camp than the Jesus camp. Just sayin'...
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There was the whole Inquisition thing, for starters.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Just heard a radio quote from a Sarah Palin supporter. Her sum total rationale for supporting Palin? "Well, she's a Christian, so she has good values."
- Mark Jepsen
Good point Mark. I've long struggled with this issue. It's likely at the root of why I don't want to call myself a Christian anymore and why I'm having difficulty finding the right church environment.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Sad but true.
- Bette Cooper
Mohandas Gandhi: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
- William Harryman
...and lets 4get the Catholic scandel (sexual abuse) in Ireland. Just being a Christian is not enough..one needs to practice and have true human values.
- Peter Dawson
All religions have had their share of extremists and hypocrites. We've got far too many people attaching certain evil actions to specific religions. True human values really have no religious boundaries or affiliations.
- Allan Besselink
Well said Allan. Wish more people realized that.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Let us remember that it was the disciples (students) of Christ that were first called Christians. If you are not disciplining yourself to follow Christ, then the label is completely useless. With that - I think we need (as Christians) to start being able to say that someone is NOT a Christian if the values do not match up with Jesus'. A person can CALL themselves a vegetarian, but if I see them wolfing down a Harris Ranch Filet Mignon, I can say that they are NOT, in fact, a vegetarian.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Yep, the problem is when you see intolerant, rude, disrespectful, and/or immoral people being seen as being Christian. Going to church doesn't make you a good person, any more than drinking diet soda makes you healthy.
- Alex Scoble
And no, I'm not equating diet soda with church...just saying that actions make you a good person, not your ideals/beliefs.
- Alex Scoble
Standing in a garage doesn't make you a car, either.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I really believe a lot of this discussion is directly pursuant to the "Sola Gracia" teachings that were a backlash against the Catholic church from the Reformation theologians. Martin Luther couldn't understand the book of James because it spoke about the idea that one cannot claim faith when actions do not back up that claim. "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has...
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- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Or sitting in a toilet make you a piece of shit
- Schadenfreude
As someone once said, Alex, "The Church is not a museum for saints; it's a hospital for sinners."
- Glen Mistletoe
The problem I have with a lot of true Christians is that they do not distance themselves from the self-professed Christians who firmly belief that they are the only true Christians. It's a few bad apples to give the orchard a bad reputation.
- Rene Wirtz
Alex, that sounds like a good thought, and on the outside of things it would seems so, but the truth is: none of us are good. Jesus did not come to make bad people good, He came to make dead people live. And when a person has that "life" on the inside of him or her, from that source come good works to others. Jesus gave us an interesting criteria about who were Christians: He said "If...
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- Melanie Reed
Faith without knowledge is trouble just waiting to happen.
- Paul W. Homer
+1 Melanie
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Nor should one assume that if one has good values that they're necessarily a Christian, right?
- Mr. Gunn
Sorry, Melanie, but you can believe all you want...that alone won't get you where you want to be. Belief without action is mental masturbation. Righteous action without belief is still righteous.
- Alex Scoble
An action is just an action. Righteousness is in the eye of the beholder.
- Akiva Moskovitz
/me smites Akiva for the common good.
- Alex Scoble
I consider "Christianity" to be the most hypocritical of all faiths. And yes, I was raised as one. I fail to see where it has made most of those who profess to belong to it better people.
- LANjackal
Christianity is what saved me from being a hypocrite.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Guess that makes you an expert then.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Whoops I can see where this one is going. Hiding this topic. See y'all
- LANjackal
I'd agree that Christianity probably hasn't made most of its followers better people. BUT the handful of guys I've met who truly, deeply came to understand Christ's teachings and rebuild their lives around them (in prison) are some of the most remarkable people I ever hope to meet. I'm still an atheist, but damn. "True" Christians, if that's what they're called, are really amazing people. (however I haven't met many!)
- Thursday Lo :)
I agree, Lo...true Christians are amazing, because they practice what they preach. Unfortunately, there are a lot more that preach opposite to what they practice.
- Alex Scoble
Fruit. You gotta look for the fruit. If there ain't any fruit, then you gotta wonder.
- Mellissa Claus
All but the most insanely fundamentalist of Christians today would not recognize (and would likely be appalled by) the Christianity of 400, or even 200 years ago. The more influenced a flavor of Christianity has been by Enlightenment values, the more benign it is.
- Christopher A Carr
Unfortunately the sign in front of a church in Cedar Rapids is gone now, but it said "God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts."
- Rene Wirtz
++Rene
- Bonnie Foster
Mark, yes I agree with your original statement. And conversely, many kind and self-sacrificing acts by real Christians go unnoticed by those around them. This is not an age hallmarked by appreciation for the quiet and discreet. God Himself works everyday to provide good things for us and how often do we notice or praise Him for it? Yet he does. And I know I could not make it without...
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- Melanie Reed
A guy claiming to be Christian may even be one of those Gnostic bastards, reading the wrong Gospels, am i right? :)
- Eivind
And NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!
- Morgan Haley
Melanie: "God Himself works everyday to provide good things for us..." How do you know? That's just an empty assertion.
- Christopher A Carr
:) Not empty, Christopher. I have made an assertion and it is based on firm evidence that I see everyday. And it is based on knowledge from those whom I trust who have also seen that evidence before me.
- Melanie Reed
I think you may be confused as to what constitutes reliable "evidence."
- Christopher A Carr
I may be confused as to what constitutes the inverse of an Augmented Matrix, but I am not confused in the least about the reliable evidence of a loving God. :)
- Melanie Reed
Can you think of anything that would amount to evidence *against* the existence of a "loving god?" Anencephalic (brainless) infants, comes to mind... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...
- Christopher A Carr
Or, does the Semitic deity Yahweh have a special plan for brainless babies?
- Christopher A Carr
What about parasitic twins?
- Christopher A Carr
What about autistic? What about Asberger's? What about ugly? What about stinky?
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Christopher, Your second two points are closer to the truth, yes: He does have a plan for them.
- Melanie Reed
Brainless babies can't do anything but respirate for a short time, then die. What could possibly be the point?
- Christopher A Carr
The point is that you and I can't resurrect and heal them but God can.
- Melanie Reed
Christopher, this life isn't"the point" at all. Those unfortunate souls will be taken care of where there is no sickness and pain.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Why cause a brainless baby to be birthed in the first place?
- Christopher A Carr
He didn't. We did.
- Melanie Reed
Everything that happens is part of your deity's plan, correct?
- Christopher A Carr
What is your point?
- Melanie Reed
So, original sin causes anencephaly?
- Christopher A Carr
I thought your deity was in control of the universe?
- Christopher A Carr
A single act of Disobedience led to that anencephaly and a host of other problems.
- Melanie Reed
What a vulgar belief system.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, the universe is not a playground, is it where we do what we want and someone makes it better and we go on doing whatever we want?. Would that be controlled or would it be tyranny?
- Melanie Reed
An all-knowing deity knows everything, right? Including the fact that this "disobedience" would happen. So "he" is ultimately responsible for every single infant that is ever born without a brain above its face.
- Christopher A Carr
Anger is understandable. But God is not to blame. That is our responsibility. And responsibility has hard consequences that tear at the heart. It hurts God. That is why He has made a way out for us. And that way is open to you and anyone else who wants to accept it.
- Melanie Reed
You just avoided the issue by regurgitating religious platitudes.
- Christopher A Carr
No, truth.
- Melanie Reed
Let's say you're an all-powerful, all-knowing deity, and you decide to create a universe. If you're genuinely omniscient, you'll know everything that will ever transpire in this universe -- including who you'll be "required" to torture forever, and who you won't. Any such being is ultimately responsible for everything that occurs in its universe.
- Christopher A Carr
Does your deity know if I'm going to be tortured forever? If not, he's not omniscient.
- Christopher A Carr
What is torturing you, Christopher and do you want to DM me?
- Melanie Reed
Your god sends people to be tortured forever in hell, yes?
- Christopher A Carr
No, Christopher, we decide by our choices in regard to heaven or hell. But I think you may mean hell in another sense?
- Melanie Reed
No, I mean hell in the Christian sense. Does your deity know ahead of time if I'll be going to hell or not?
- Christopher A Carr
In other words, when Yahweh created my soul, did he know what would happen to it?
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, God has the ability to exercise foreknowledge but not the way you and I tend to think of it. His thinking is higher than ours and it allows for choice always as long as there is life! You have a choice.
- Melanie Reed
Did he know if my soul would end up in hell when he created it? Yes, or no?
- Christopher A Carr
I can not answer something that would put me in the position of judgment on you or anyone. That is not mine to decide. What God is saying is that your future is not cut off unless you make that choice. And God is giving you and me and everyone else the same opportunity to make that choice.
- Melanie Reed
I'm not asking you to judge anything. Is it your understanding that your deity knows everything?
- Christopher A Carr
God knows the beginning and the end of a matter.
- Melanie Reed
All matters?
- Christopher A Carr
What I have said above.
- Melanie Reed
Are you are saying there are things that Yahweh doesn't know?
- Christopher A Carr
No, I didn't say that.
- Melanie Reed
He didn't immediately know where Adam and Eve was, when they hid in the Garden from what I've read.
- Eivind
Then I am forced to conclude that Yahweh (were he to exist, a fact for which there is thankfully ZERO evidence) created the vast majority of souls for the purpose of having something to torture for an eternity.
- Christopher A Carr
Elvind, He did know.
- Melanie Reed
No Christopher, he created humans out of love. He took the risk to allow everyone to make their own choice, knowing some would not make a wise choice and cause pain to themselves and to others would result.
- Melanie Reed
Ah, I see. He was just pretending he didn't know, like you do with small children.
- Eivind
Elvind, no, he wanted to give them the chance to own up and be honest.
- Melanie Reed
But Melanie, he knew when he made them who would and who would not make certain choices (so there's not really a choice). Why make a soul that's destined to be tortured forever?
- Christopher A Carr
How do you know these things, Melanie? They're not explained in the Bible.
- Eivind
Christopher, knowing what someone will do and causing them to do it are two different things. This is why God warns Cain in the beginning: "That thou mayest not sin" Choice. Always. Choice. There is always hope, Christopher, and the fact that you are asking gives me hope!
- Melanie Reed
Elvind, yes, its in Genesis.
- Melanie Reed
I always wonder about the fate of otherwise good people who believe other things, or are never even exposed to the One system (whichever one that may be) that could save them.
- LogEx
Melanie, but if you know that someone will do a thing that leads them to eternal torture, why create them in the first place?
- Christopher A Carr
LogEx, God gives all of us an opportunity no matter where we are to make a choice,
- Melanie Reed
Well, LogEx, I have an answer for you that comes right out of the book that claims to be the Authority. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage... says that all people will be judged fairly and based on their own deeds.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
So, I'm set then.
- LogEx
If you've never erred.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Melanie, not in my copy. God asks Adam where he is. He answers, rats out Eve, and then God makes them clothes (and takes away the snake's limbs?). The next chapter is about Cain and Abel.
- Eivind
Christopher, maybe I wasn't very clear: the concept of choice means that you and I and everyone else have the ability to be influenced for good or for bad.
- Melanie Reed
I think Christopher is assuming God precludes free will.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Elvind, yes, God asks, not to find out what He already knows, but to give Adam and Eve a chance to confess what they have done which is what you would do for someone you loved and respected.
- Melanie Reed
Yahweh: I'm going to make souls x, y, and z -- souls x and y will need to be tortured forever; I know this because I know how they will behave, because I know everything. But I'm going to create them anyway. In fact, the vast, vast majority of all the souls I create will "chose" to be burned in hell forever, but I'm OK with that, and will create them anyway. ...nice deity you got there.
- Christopher A Carr
Melanie, that's just projecting onto God what you would have done. It doesn't say anywhere that's why he did it?
- Eivind
Elvind, I don't think I would have handled it so well as God. ;) His response is in keeping with His character and nature. And the rest of scripture provides testimony .
- Melanie Reed
Melanie is quite good at weaselisms.
- Christopher A Carr
Ok. It's Eivind btw. (no worries, VERY common mistake :) )
- Eivind
Is there more than one Way? If so, what are they? If not, what about the other 6 billion people? http://www.adherents.com/Religio...
- LogEx
I guess that depends. Is there an absolute value for "right?" I'm going to say there is. I believe that Charles Manson was wrong for what he did. There's no gray area there. Now that I've established that there is an absolute value for "right," then it behooves me to investigate why.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Eivind, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to miss-spell your name.
- Melanie Reed
Hehe, almost every English speaker who sees it in writing makes that mistake :)
- Eivind
Lewis (C.S.) decided that he felt that "right" and "wrong" were hard-wired and not up to the whims of the individual. In doing that, he felt he had to investigate the ... Author, if you will of those immutable laws (along with gravity, et al). He then looked at the myriad of religious texts that claimed to be "the way" and finally settled on the bible. Christianity was just the end of his search for the reason for "right."
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Nothing supernatural in the way of an "Author" is required to account for our preferences for some social behaviors over others. Foundationaly, we are a species of highly social primate. On top of that, moral and ethical mores evolve (in a memetic, cultural evolutionary sense) over time. ...Our species has been on this planet for 200,000 or so years. It seems rather odd to me that Yahweh only took an interest many thousands of years after the relatively recent emergence of agriculture.
- Christopher A Carr
Melanie has DMed me. Evidently she is "troubled" for me, and wants to know if I need her help. Arrogant? Sanctimonious? I don't even know what to call that. Amazing.
- Christopher A Carr
I assume practical tasks are out of the question?
- Eivind
Practical tasks? My house's gutters need replacing.
- Christopher A Carr
Well, ask for help with that :)
- Eivind
Not a bad idea.
- Christopher A Carr
I'm afraid she would only offer to pray that they be miraculously fixed.
- Christopher A Carr
Why does that make you afraid? You're certainly brave enough to call out someone's private messages in a public forum; surely having someone pray for you wouldn't be that bad.
- Glen Mistletoe
Pretty sure Christopher didn't mean that kind of "afraid."
- Chieze Okoye
Glen: Feel free to pray for my gutters.
- Christopher A Carr
May I suggest you pray to Vishnu, The Lord of Maintenance. - http://www.saigan.com/heritag...
- Eivind
Wow! Apparently this thread had legs while I was out! I haven't read most of the comments, but I should perhaps interject something here that I should've been stated up front... my initial statement, though directed at Christians, can surely be applied to ANY religion, and indeed, to any belief system. (This would included, for example, political beliefs. Hint hint.) Jerks and...
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- Mark Jepsen
Said another way... when any individual or group starts telling you that God is on their side (instead of the other way around) it would be wise to gather your loved ones and any belongings you can carry, a find refuge as you prepare to see the worst that man is capable of.
- Mark Jepsen
Personally I direct All Prayer to "Oh Lord" which I find to include All passing Gods & deities excluding none. Besides that moment of suspension of disbelief this has sufficed for many years to satisfy. Now that I am older & have experienced the world this seems to be overdoing it on my part. All physic seems to stem from Man?? Where is God in the Sense plane? Mind Readers & Physics...
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- ThatDBD
I just used the word expeditiously at work, and my coworker asked me if that was a real word. x_X
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"Cromulent" "embiggins" Sorry, just wanted to get those references out of the way.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
I suggest that they expeditiously seek out a dictionary.
- Alex Scoble
:)
- VAL D. Zone
irregardless of what they think, ++ for the use of the word. ;-) also, it kind of hurt to write irregardless. heh.
- pea
I have had similar moments at work. One chick somehow thought "approximately" meant "exactly". At least there was one other chick speaking up along with me to correct her, but the mistaken one was really adamant about it... I'm wondering how she made it to over 50 without that valuable piece of info. Especially when you work with numbers at a bank.....
- Kamilah Gill
Ha, Kamilah. It's always the best when people think they are right.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I get that all the time from coworkers and customers. Perhaps watering down my vocabulary would be a good idea.
- Christian (Simply X)
We were all like "Google It".
- Kamilah Gill
JFGI - Just freakin' Google it!
- Christian (Simply X)
Well, they must not have listened to Prairie Home Companion at all. Because for years Powder Milk Biscuits were: "Heavens! They're tasty and expeditious!" (I'm sorry, Garrison, for those who still don't know that these things "Give shy persons the strength to get up and do what needs to be done!") lol
- Melanie Reed
This co-worker hasn't seen "Lean on Me", either. Joe Clark used the word "expurgated", too.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
Was it Josh? o_O
- Derrick
No. Josh asked if she had ever seen Lean On Me. x_X
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
http://twitpic.com/sf19v - Srsly? *huge sigh* *facepalm*
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Just like Kato and The Green Hornet.
- Christopher Harley
Asian Hamburger Helper? You don't like asian food?
- Glen Mistletoe
I love Asian food of all kinds. But srsly? ASIAN HELPER? With ground beef even! I should have gotten a close-up of the box. It looks atrocious. Does nobody shop the international foods aisle? There's better stuff there.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It calls for ground Kobe beef.
- Christopher Harley
Wow. Cause Asian food is all the same.
- Derrick
In fairness they do have different kinds, they just have them all under the one banner.
- Joe Pierce
I posted this same thing over the summer. ROFL It's just so wrong.
- Admiral Anika
WOW
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Oh, blech.
- Jenny R.
Is this similar to the 'Oriental' flavored ramen soup?
- Jeff P. Henderson
LOL! I just noticed that in the store yesterday and had a good laugh about it. I saw one that was for chicken, though.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Actually, their chicken fried rice is pretty good.
- Curtiss Grymala
I'm with you. Real food, please. The only Helper I'll allow is Cheeseburger, every once in a while. And Tuna with cheese.
- Kamilah Gill
When I was doing the Thanksgiving food drive with the kids, I was shocked when I saw Hamburger helper, Tuna helper, CHICKEN helper, and now this? DAMN
- Shevonne
Now see they got it all wrong. They should have named it quite simply: "Wok Helper". My dad would have bought that. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Shevonne - This is just a rebranding. They've had these flavors for a long time; they just recently rebranded the separate Hamburger and Chicken Helpers to simply "Asian Helper." BTW - I'm pretty sure there's also a Pork Helper (there used to be, at least).
- Curtiss Grymala
Kamillah - I'm with you, but when you have three kids and both parents are working full-time, you don't always have the time or the money to have real food all the time. The "Helper" boxes are great for quick, cheap, easy meals that most of the family will actually eat
- Curtiss Grymala
I prefer the liquid meal bases, Chicken Tonight and the like
- Bryce Roney
I miss Chicken Tonight. :) You can't find it around here anymore. But as far as the Helpers...they are indeed great for a quick fix meal. I always get just the regular cheese mac one and throw in veggies and then serve it with a salad.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I don't buy that stuff. Too expensive and it doesn't make much food. I much prefer to use a pound of ground turkey, a pound of cooked elbow macaroni, 1 big bag of frozen veggies (cooked), and my special sauce consisting of 2 cups of water, 2 beef bouillon cubes, 4 tbs corn starch, and 4 tbs of soy sauce. Combine and feed an army.
- April Russo (app103)
Was laughing already, but Christopher's comment really made me crack up. @tinypants - I find the international foods aisles lots of fun, but so far I've always had the chance to get more authentic stuff at markets actually run and aimed at their immigrant audiences and there's way more stuff there. ... that said, it is impressive to see how much Superstore and Save-On have done to cater to immigrants.
- Andrew C
Asian Helper is surprisingly good.
- Jon Ursenbach
@Andrew: Yeah, I personally prefer those types of markets. We have a really good Mexican market as well as a good Asian market here in my town and they're fantastic places to visit. Such an amazing variety of products and it's nice to have things that haven't been "Americanized". I only mentioned the international foods aisle in comparison to the Asian Helper because at least that's a step in the right direction. LOL :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Now with the small percentage of bugs that the Helpers are allowed to include in their seasoning mix, this only seems fitting to call it Asian. If it came from Thailand, you know they'd have a waterbug version. I hear they taste like nuts.
- Jackye Chan
Hello all-What are your favorite warm holiday drinks? (alcoholic or not). Assume I've already got hot spiced cider & hot toddies on my list.
Starbucks Peppermint Hot Chocolate
- Jesse Stay
I wish they sold that stuff in powder form
- Jesse Stay
Glögg is by far my favorite :-)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Jesse I think they have it now in ice cream form. I just got a coupon. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Spiced cider and Sugar Plum Fairy Celestial Seasonings Tea (which I can't get anymore because they are not stocking it)
- Melanie Reed
Glögg is awesome. good cold remedy too.
- Mike Nencetti
Hot butter rum. Mmmmm.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Mike you are so right I should be downing Glögg right now by the gallons. I've had a cold / sore throat thing going on for two weeks now .. To the kitchen! :-)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Vote number three for Gløgg.
- Eivind
A Life Well Lived - Steve the Builder - Ancient Faith Radio - http://ancientfaith.com/podcast...
I went into the pre-op room and assisted Fr. Damian with the baptism of my Father who 40 years before made fun of me mercilessly about my faith. When we finished the baptism my Dad looked at me and said, “I love you.” I said, “I love you too, Dad…I’ve been praying for this for a long time.” He had tears in his eyes. He said, “I know.” We brought my wife and daughter and Mom into his room. Fr. Damian, my wife, daughter and I sang “As Many as Have Been Baptized into Christ” for him. Then they took him away.
- Melanie Reed
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Pug Blog - http://www.ownedbypugs.com/index...
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Eddy and Simba just ate between them an entire loaf of bread whose sack must have given way to shifting and fell to the floor. Called vet. Will probably be looking forward to upset tummys . Anyway, was looking for others on net who might have had same problem and found this site.
- Melanie Reed
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Pugs survived and upset tummys did come (as expected).
- Melanie Reed
Our little guy, Ajax, ate a bunch of yogurt covered raisins out a of a bowl at my girlfriends parents house. Raisins are toxic to and can kill dogs. He was definitely sick for a few days but is much better today.
- mikepk
Mikepk glad to hear it and good to know for future reference!
- Melanie Reed
Reading about raisins (or Grapes) and dogs is scary. Beyond a certain amount, they can cause the dog's kidneys to shut down in 48 hours.
- mikepk
pugs are having a late dinner of lamb, brown rice, and mixed vegetables. Piling into it!
- Melanie Reed
Simba got lost today. But thankfully was found and returned to me just an hour ago. Some kind people who kept her warm. Very grateful to God for answering prayer on this.
- Melanie Reed
Creamed honey. Never heard of this before. Looking forward to having some on fresh bread.
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Me neither. Sounds interesting.
- Amy
Pasteurization.
- Christopher Harley
It isn't pasteurized though. It looks whipped.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
How did it taste though? like regular honey?
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
It does. It's just spreadable. *looks around for other things to spread the honey on*
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Mm. so like, we could dip apples in it and everything. where did you find it, Junebug?
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
There was a farm stand sort of place north of Peoria, IL. It's also where I found the delicious apple cider donuts I've been noshing on today. I didn't think of apples. Great idea!
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
yum! my favorite local honey supplier/farm makes some yummy creamed honey. flavored ones too!
- holly
It's good
- Melanie Reed
Its real honey after honey naturally crystalizes, you can make it yourself, let honey get nice and solid whip it in blender even mix in a little butter - very nice on warm toast
- WarLord
10 Huge Successes Built On Second Ideas - http://www.businessinsider.com/10-huge...
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It takes a lot of faith in an idea to start a company around it. But for companies to succeed in the long run, their founders also need to be ready for those ideas to fail. They need to be ready to learn from those failures and adapt.
- Hutch Carpenter
Amen. Perseverance. One of my favorite quotes : "“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”-Calvin Coolidge
- Melanie Reed
Whew! finally got an inverse matrice to work!
I actually got it wrong but I was able to rework it and get the right answers now that I know how it works
- Melanie Reed
http://twitpic.com/s9v52 - This is the Christmas Tree we're buying at Home Depot. Noble fir. Look good?
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Yes! It's beautiful! I got to have a Frasier Fir last year for the first time (never had a real Christmas tree since I was a kid) and I felt very blessed by it. Your kids will love it!!
- Melanie Reed
Thanks Melanie. My son had a great time this afternoon decorating it.
- Hutch Carpenter
HAWT
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Hutch, that's great! I'll bet there were "big eyes" :) One day I hope to experience that, too. ;)
- Melanie Reed
I just woke up from a headache-induced nap and I'm not sure if I'll be up all night or if I'm just going to fall asleep again as soon as I eat dinner.
I hope it's the latter just so that you can keep your sleep schedule sane.
- Spidra Webster
*solidarity*
- Micah Wittman
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Rest up, sugar.
- Derrick
I'm sorry, Joey. Those are tough. Years of them. But mine was chemical and hormonal imbalance (from the chemical exposures). Have they found out your cause? I went into exhaustion sleep earlier which is why I am also up and will probably read me way back to sleep. Economics assigned reading works like a charm. ;)
- Melanie Reed
No, we haven't found a cause yet. I have an appointment with a new neurologist on Monday.
- joey
I will keep it in my prayers.
- Melanie Reed
Best part of living where I do in December? Hearing the LAUSD band practice for the Rose Parade everyday.
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Goodness, they sound so much better this year than last year. I should go down to take pictures, but...it's cold. ;)
- Admiral Anika
I found myself at Orange Grove and Colorado the other day and was GOBSMACKED at all the stands that are up for the parade. I meant to take a picture.
- Derrick
Yeah, they set them up early. Too early, IMO. They used to set them up just a week before the parade, but then one year, there was heavy rain and they were still setting up on NYE. Since then, they start putting them up S-L-O-W-L-Y right after Thanksgiving.
- Admiral Anika
Gosh, they are seriously making me want to pick up the flute again. They're playing songs I used to know by heart. I should infiltrate.
- Admiral Anika
Anika. :) Founding member of the Indianapolis Flute Club! You still have your flute?
- Melanie Reed
No. The flute I used mostly was the one my mom used when she was in marching band. Then I got a used one, that was passed down to my sister when she started in band. I think she still has it, but she lives in France.
- Admiral Anika
Cool! what make was it? I used to have an Armstrong french student model and my last one was the Gemeinhardt pro open hole french
- Melanie Reed
Both were Yamaha's.
- Admiral Anika
solid! My marching flute was similar. Those other were concert models.
- Melanie Reed
My 11 year old the voracious reader wants to know about Twilight. Quote: Is it as good as Little Women? I will use the best verbatims
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Okay, maniacal laughter, got it. Thanks Kaia... anyone else?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Well, Bella sure as heck ain't no March sister.
- Laura Lou Who
Just say no!
- Katy S
Enroll him in hockey. Now.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
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well yeah... she's hearing from some of her friends about how "good" the books are. even though peers who opinions she trust say they're crap. I haven't read any of it and am not likely to based on previous comments from you guys.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
not that I'm opposed to it MVB, but she's a girl, with no interest in hockey. good soccer player though and runs a decent time in cross country
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Oh, well... carry on then.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
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There are much better books out there, but if she reads a lot anyway it won't hurt her to read things that aren't as good (says the person working on a phd in English who reads all sorts of trash). Anyway, she can always stop reading it if she doesn't like it. It isn't like it's required for school - at least, I would hope it isn't.
- Katy S
+++ Katy S (on your previous "Just say no" comment) Seriously, it appalls me what kind of abuse to women gets thinly disguised by a sensational storyline. To that young and undiscerning of a mind, Edward seems like a "knight" but it takes little guided critical thinking to undermine that perception.
- Melanie Reed
Didn't they used to call these "Penny Dreadfuls" for a reason?
- Melanie Reed
actually I'm recommending Dracula .... any comments on that?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Yeah, the abusive/stalkerish relationship part of the book really bother me, too. However, I'm more offended by the idea of glittery vampires. I do like Dracula, but the writing might be more stilted than some her age might like.
- Katy S
I just got this book for my niece: http://www.amazon.com/Reforme... It's suppose to be pretty good. If she likes stories about the supernatural, she might like some of Diana Wynne Jones' books or Margaret Mahy's books for middle school readers (she also writes picture books).
- Katy S
Somewhere along the way, I think Dracula (or part of it) was required reading in some high school course as I dimly recall. I would respond as does this real teacher (one who actually enjoys teaching with engagement and passion for the subject) < http://vereloqui.blogspot.com/2009... > about how it was taught to me then: poorly. It was chosen for all the wrong reason: sensationalism. I got more from reading the classics on my own.
- Melanie Reed
Thanks all. Katy - I read Dracula when I was about her age. The language was a stretch but I think she's up for it if she's interested. And I don't mind "trash". Just out and out bad books are a waste of time though. I generally let her read what's age appropriate. She's making a big deal about pointing out the reasons she "shouldn't" read the book which lets me know that she's really curious.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
I read Madame Bovary when I was that age. While I could read it, I sure didn't get the parts that were probably inappropriate. Same holds true for some of the Agatha Christie novels I read at that age - the sex and relationships stuff didn't register as much as it could have, and that's just fine b/c I still enjoyed reading them. Of course, I was totally enraptured by Heathcliff in...
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- Katy S
What about Anne of Green Gables? Very age appropriate and it's a series (14 books) that "grows" along with the reader. A little more grown up is Jane Eyre and what about Austin: Pride and Prejudice is along the same vein as Katy is talking about: some parts she'll be able to get on rereading when older but its good stuff! A third book I would recommend for the incredible back story of Indiana and its botony is Girl of the Limberlost
- Melanie Reed
She's read Anne of Green Gables. Though I'm not sure how many. All the Harry Potter. Lemony Snickett, The Hobbit. A Wrinkle In Time. And much of C.S. Lewis.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Eight Cousins, Jo's Boys are two more that often get lost in today's shuffle
- Melanie Reed
Does she like Mildred Taylor's books? Roll Of Thunder, Hear My Cry, along with all of the sequels and prequel are excellent.
- Katy S
We'll take a look at both Melanie and Katy. Thanks.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Anytime! A really great source of book lists are here: http://www.education.wisc.edu/ccbc... The CCBC does really great work.
- Katy S
Master, you're welcome! Reading and the classics are a passion of mine. P.S. Do you belong to GoodReads? Looking at some of the book lists there for ideas is helpful. I would also put in a plug for P.L. Travers and the entire Mary Poppins series. Far more interesting and magical than the film.
- Melanie Reed
OK, I know everyone loves bashing Twilight (and it does give a lot of ammo) but, as a lifetime voracious reader, I don't think there's anything wrong with occasionally reading somthing that isn't meaningful or intellectual, but just a fun story. No, it is not as well-written or as memorable as the Little House books or a ton of other great books (it's not well written at all). However,...
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- Shannon Jiménez
Shoot, I think the Twilight books are complete pieces of crap, but I say let her read them anyway. Make sure you either check them out of the library or buy them used so you're not paying full retail. She sounds like she's smart enough to not become one of those brainless ninnies out there who think that the Edward-Bella-Jacob mental abuse triangle is "cool" or "beautiful", so no harm no foul. The books really are poorly-written and just complete brain candy garbage, but sometimes that's what we need. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Melanie - I'm on Goodreads (barrywynn). I'll check some of the lists. Thanks
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Shannon and Melanie. We're considering letting her decide. And yes she's on the 2nd or 3rd book in the Wrinkle series.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
I loved the Wrinkle in time trilogy. I realized years later one of the things I most loved about it was the family. I longed for that in my own family.
- Spidra Webster
Master, I'll look for you then and shoot my list which contains some children's books. Re: reading whatever: I learned an important lesson about what we take into our minds from a poetry Instructor/mentor of mine who proved to me that whatever I read came out in my work. Since then, I've been very careful what I read. It isn't just the mind that's affected ...but the heart and the imagination.
- Melanie Reed
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- Melanie Reed
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I'm going to hate bringing this up, but here goes. I've read several comments that say Mr. "Gatecrasher" Salahi isn't white because he's Palestinian. Does this mean, then, that white = of European descent only?
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heh. your reference to margaret cho's post sparked this very conversation between Tiffany and I. To paraphrase what she just said to me (and I agree with), most white people wouldn't consider Arabs white but the census does. And, personally, knowing how skin color plays in countries a little more homogeneous than our own, what passes for "white" (or "black" or in between) varies on lots of different factors.
- Jason Toney
I don't know. Maybe to a eugenicist? According to one vile eugenicist I read for some academic work, I (one of the palest people on the planet) wouldn't be considered white because there are Germans in my background. Some people have pretty extreme ideas about race and ethnicity.
- Katy S
Are we talking layman's definitions or Census categories?
- tiffany
I've heard people say Italians, Spaniards, Greeks aren't "white" as well. I think that's why people use "Caucasian" instead, since that would be more geographically specific. Either way, the skull structure is pretty much the same, so the differences are the ones on the outside.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Tiffany: either. Both.
- cecily
I don't think most white folks would consider Mexicans white either. But, according to my birth certificate, my race is white.
- Yolanda
Only in the United States is "Hispanic" a different category from "caucasian", that I'm aware of.
- DJF
according to the census he is white. according to the census, north african arabs would also be white. ditto central and west asians, middle easterners, and some north africans. most regular folks would say he's not white, but wouldn't quite know where else to put him. i've also heard people (er uh, mostly black ones for what that's worth) say "he's not white, he's...
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- tiffany
also DJF: only in the united states is "hispanic" a category at all. more of a geographic / linguistic grouping than a racial one.
- tiffany
I've known some Muslims who consider themselves White, but then there are others who don't. It really depends on who you speak to. I think people tend to forget that this isn't a Black and White world.
- Shevonne
Arabs haven't been "white" since 9/11
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
gah gah gah!!! MUSLIM IS NOT A RACIAL DESIGNATION. MUSLIM != ARAB. <rant />
- tiffany
But Muslims can be ethnically (or even culturally) White/Caucasian. A Muslim identity doesn't necessarily translate into an ethnic identity, especially if you think of the very large Muslim communities in Eastern European countries, or the number of Muslim communities in the Asia-Pacific region.
- cecily
I divide people up into those likely to be pulled over by the po-po, and those who are not.
- Derrick
This has come up in one way or another with Jews I've known throughout the years, and the responses run the gamut between "Jews aren't white" (this person's POV was based on how Jews have been persecuted throughout history) to "Jews are white, but not really", to "If I don't open my mouth and tell people I'm Jewish, for all intents and purposes, I'm a white person". That's what got me...
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- cecily
Derrick, by that definition, I'm a white person in Vancouver, because I am least likely to get pulled over.
- cecily
But then, Vancouver's not North America, as I'm reminded almost daily.
- cecily
agreed cecily. just pointing out our tendency to think of muslims as those people who live in the middle east. but in reality, there are *1.2 billion* muslims on this planet, most of whom are *not* arab. ain't no way my hausa cousin-in-law will identify himself as white. ditto my black american convert cousin.
- tiffany
Oh...forgot to throw in "by LAPD" in there.
- Derrick
+++J. =) Growing up, most Middle Easterners & Arabs I knew considered themselves white no matter how dark they were. Strangely, most of my Egyptians friends have said that they were black, while Libyans I knew (again, no matter how dark) would claim whiteness.
- Admiral Anika
I think that seeing people as Black and White is a way to separate people into only two groups, which isn't how the world really is. I have friends from many different countries. If you ask them what their nationality is, they define themselves from where they are from. I feel that is how it should be.
- Shevonne
I used to work for a state government agency that collected demographic information. We were required to collect data about people's race, but there were no legal definitions as to what terms like "white," "black," or "asian/pacific islander" mean. So, when people asked us, we had to rely upon what was vaguely referred to as "community standards"—did the people of that community, IN...
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- Glen Mistletoe
This just goes to show what we all know, that "race" is not some scientific category, but something suffused with emotion, culture, stereotype and so on. Looking at Salahi, I'd say he's a white guy. Once you tell me he's Palestinian, I'd say perhaps he's not such a white guy after all, because in the USA, "white" tends to mean "Nondescript and/or European descent."
- s t e v e
I agree that most Arabs haven't been white since Sept. 11, but look at Mr. Salahi. If I didn't know that man's last name, or know the country of his birth, for all intents and purposes I'd consider him a white man, which goes back to the discussion of how racial profiling works in the United States.
- cecily
I'm going to have to dust off "Light in August" again. It's been awhile.
- Derrick
I don't think we're separating people into Black/White in this thread, Shevonne. If anything, we're talking about White/Other, where other is...well...anyone who isn't white.
- cecily
White = You can't snap your fingers in time with music.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
*clubs Rob on the head in time with the music*
- Spidra Webster
Glen, that's one thing I actually love about being in Canada. That kind of demographic data is not collected on governmental forms.
- cecily
Or rather, it isn't *required*.
- cecily
LOL @ Spidra
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Shevonne, the point of this discussion is from a US standpoint, it seems. As I said above my friends would consider themselves white, but depending on circumstances, they'd state that they're Syrian, Persian, Lebanese, etc...I have noticed how they (and South Americans for that matter) will let someone assume they're white Americans/Europeans to get better treatment.
- Admiral Anika
I will have to say that this is the best discussion I've seen on FriendFeed in a very long time.
- Shevonne
Yeah, the only bad thing about it is that it has lodged Michael Jackson's "Black or White" in my head.
- s t e v e
I am sure that I am going to wish I hadn't written this... But here goes. I think that most Anglo/Europeans cant always tell where exactly Arabs are from (Egypt, KSA, etc) unless they have an accent but they can tell that they aren't "black" and previous to 9/11 that was enough.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
@J. Many of my Arab friends have said the same thing, so you shouldn't feel bad for writing that. @Steve haha
- Shevonne
It's an outgrowth of the civil rights acts of the 1960's; and it's kind of a weird situation. While trying to outlaw the use of race by people, they're actually mandating the identification of people by race in order to measure compliance.
- Glen Mistletoe
J., I think most "white" people can't always tell where other "white" people are from, unless someone points out their Irish/German/Scandinavian/French/English ancestry. And that's a privilege. Whereas you don't need to know where "Other" folks are from, you just need to know that they're not you.
- cecily
Can we throw class in there as well? Clearly the Salahis aren't hurting for loot, or at least they don't give off that they are? That wedding video on youtube was dos muchos.
- Derrick
http://www.amazon.com/Train-A... Interesting discussion about "Who Really Is A Canadian?" with writer and raconteur, Murray Sayles about race and ethnicity
- Melanie Reed
While I'm sure 9/11 is a dividing line, I don't think it's true that people of middle-eastern descent were always lumped in with "white" by white folks. Some of it probably has to do with assimilation to the USA's "white culture." If a person identifies strongly with being "Persian" just for one example, they can seem "less white" to people of European descent whose families have been American for generations.
- s t e v e
Class definitely plays a part. After all, look at Oprah's reaction when she got turned away from Hermes. Look at Skip Gates' reaction when that cop showed his rear end. They'd achieved a level of success where they felt that they'd escaped the world of the "Other", but they had a wakeup call.
- cecily
Steve FTW. "Nondescript" is probably the best term for "Non-Hispanic caucasian," which is where I think mutts like me wind up. (Katy S.: Germans not "white"? That's one confused eugenicist, which may come with the territory.) As for "race," once you get beyond human, you're in trouble already. (Hey, I'm a Californian, and we're *all* minorities now.)
- Walt Crawford
@Derrick I agree that class was a large component but, the other thing that was on display was the idea of "colour as caste" in America.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
++ J. That doesn't get talked about nearly enough.
- cecily
Walt - That was from Madison Grant's book 'The Passing Of The Great Race' from 1916 http://books.google.com/books... . It's vile. I felt tainted after reading it. It's based on geographical eugenicist theories. He also claims that the people from Northern Ireland...
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- Katy S
Well, and "nondescript" to dominant culture white middle class middle aged dudes like me. I might be very "descript" in Russia or somewhere else with other "white" people.
- s t e v e
Nondescript is one of those things that -- depending on who is using the term -- points to the way whiteness is normalized. If nondescript means unremarkable, then does unremarkable = white?
- cecily
I'm thinking of ways I've described myself since moving to Canada. When I lived in Atlanta, I'd take pains to talk about hairstyle, weight, or what I was wearing on that particular day as a way of introducing myself to a complete stranger. In Canada, if I'm going to meet a stranger for the first time, the first thing I tell them is that I'm black, because that is the one characteristic about myself that makes me stand out here. Not so much in Atlanta.
- cecily
Right, that's close to what I meant about my discomfort with my own use of "nondescript." I guess I mean that some "white" folks identify closely with their European roots. I'm not one of those people, and my only real racial/ethnic identity is "white American."
- s t e v e
I think that nondescript in this context speaks to the idea that in certain settings white people "look like they belong" while people of colour "look out of place"
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
J. is just winning today.
- cecily
There's a body of sociological literature on "becoming white", mostly focused on how Americans translated Italians, Irish, and Jews from ethnic minorities to "white people" . Which is about how assimilation and "norming" happens as various cultures enter the mainstream. It's not Caucasian, but it is about "becoming normal" -- as defined by the dominant culture - and usually such norming...
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- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I haven't read through this entire thread and I probably should (and will). But from where I hail being "white" means "light skinned and not of African descent". It's a political/cultural designation more than anything else I think. It meant where you could eat, buy a home. Who you could associate with. How you treated "white" people, how you were treated by the law. Now? Not so much....
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- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
whiteness is such a ridiculous construct
- marthalib
Ridiculous, but useful.
- cecily
Kudos to everyone for the smarts and respect brought to this. This is why I love FF.
- Derrick
Yeah, so far nobody's made me want to shut off comments. Yay, us.
- cecily
YAY YOU, YOU CECILY. YAY YOU.
- Derrick
Nah, I'm not one for self-congratulations, D. It's all about the participants.
- cecily
So anyway, back to the thread.
- cecily
NO I WANNA LOVE CECILY SOME MORE
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
YAY CECILY. Seriously though Miss C widened my world of blogging and socnets all those many years ago. And she let them drop that stalking charge down to "loitering" :)
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
cecily: your objection to nondescript is valid--but I don't find "caucasian" to be descriptive at all, and "mostly pinkish from all sorts of background" isn't all that useful. And I'm no European (whatever that might be). "Mutt" (which is what I think most U.S. folks, myself included, are) gets you into other sorts of trouble. Anyway, a good discussion, as you-all say.
- Walt Crawford
Is whiteness a useful construct? In so many ways, it is a false construct. I suppose it gives us the ability to talk about white privilege. How else is it useful?
- marthalib
I sort of think we *have* to have some way to talk about white privilege, because it clearly exists. I am from one very "white" state and now live in one that is even more so. I'm inclined to go with Derrick's first definition--"white" is when you don't get pulled over by the police. In places that I've lived, being Arab would often qualify as "not white"--but perhaps that's because the people of Arab and Middle Eastern ancestry that I've known have tended to identify very strongly as such.
- laura x
For as long as people find it important to talk about race (and there are good reasons, arising from one's identity and heritage, as well as bad reasons, arising from racism and prejudice), I think it's important to have a word for 'white'. Without a word and a concept, white people will say "I don't have an ethnicity" like people often say "I don't have an accent", and assume that all our customs and assumptions are the default to which Those Other People with accents and ethnicities should conform.
- Deborah Fitchett
cecily: That's a profound comment.
- Walt Crawford
Point taken about the usefulness of whiteness. I feel more comfortable with it being presented as a social construct, as being are doing in this discussion. What makes me uncomfortable is when whiteness is presented or understood as an essential or biological category.
- marthalib
This reminds me of the article (NYT?) about how kids like mine end up very confused about race, because people like me are reluctant to use words like "black" or "white" because we know they are problematic and aren't quite ready to talk race with an 8 year old. Add that to living in a segregated community and you get kids like mine talking about "brown-skinned people" because they haven't been exposed very much to the sometimes-useful always-problematic labels of "black" and "white."
- s t e v e
Deborah: Yes, we all have accents. Yes, we all have some range of ethnic backgrounds--but "white" says almost nothing about ethnicity and damn little about customs and assumptions.
- Walt Crawford
cecily: And they might be right. But really, are you saying you know my customs, ethnic background and assumptions because the box I check on the census is non-Hispanic caucasian? Really? I sure don't know much about your background and assumptions based on what box you check on the census...
- Walt Crawford
That's quite apart from the issue of "white privilege," which I am presumably (and realistically) not qualified to comment on, being the recipient of it.
- Walt Crawford
cecily: Those last two sentences are as absolutely true as statements get. I don't argue that at all. And I'm saying it's wrong on all sides.
- Walt Crawford
I think 'White' says at least as much about ethnicity as 'Asian' does: ie that's a frickin' huge group with a huge number of subdivisions in it! and yet it does narrow things down a lot. I've visited/lived with other White people in... oh, four continents, and had my share of culture shock moments because of course they're all different; but at the same time there are a lot of things shared (in an fuzzy overlappy kind of way) among them all which aren't shared among 'Asians'.
- Deborah Fitchett
So it would be silly of me to say "You do X" or "You don't do Y" but I can make guesses that "Even if you don't celebrate Thanksgiving, you know what it's about and don't expect most shops to be open" or "Even if you bow to your parents on special occasions, you're aware that it's not the norm in your country" or "When you're born you're zero years old and you get a year older on your birthday" or "You still consider people 'friends' even if they're older or younger than you".
- Deborah Fitchett
(Actually "Thanksgiving" is too US-specific - "Christmas" would be a better one and then all these things are things I'd assume of any white person in the world. I might very occasionally turn out to be wrong... but I don't yet know anyone about whom any of those is untrue.)
- Deborah Fitchett
I think J. and RudĩϐЯaЯïan are on to something; it's assimilation of minorities and falling into a caste system. That's how Italians, Jews, and even now Asians have become "white".
- Schadenfreude
I'm thinking of Steve's comment upthread about talking about race to his children. I think conversations like that are almost unavoidable for non-white parents and their non-white children. I remember having the talk with my mom at around age 5 when a white family briefly moved into our neighborhood and the other kids wouldn't play with Bobby, and made fun of me because I did.
- cecily
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to follow up with fulaan's comment, what's interesting to me is to look at the evolution of race categories on the U.S. census. until the 1930 census, "mulatto" was a racial category. many current-day "hispanics" were classified as "white" -- regardless of whether they were of european descent -- until the census added "hispanic" as a category. it seems like the criteria for "white" in...
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- tiffany
See this piece for more: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh...
- tiffany
What a great discussion! An interesting related book is 'How the Irish Became White': http://www.amazon.com/exec...
- Michael R. Bernstein
Where would the walrus check in?
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- Jesse Stay
and Half Moon Bay Ritz
- Jesse Stay
Oh, that's my kind of walrus!
- Robert Scoble
I started checking in at the kids playground down the street from me now that it's in Salt Lake City
- Jesse Stay
Wherever he wants?
- Sheryl
Goo goo ga joob
- Ken Camp
Home - with April, Camilla and Thomas :)
- Susan Beebe
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Where are the best buckits?
- Jemm
At the front desk of the Indianapolis Airport Hilton (I used to clerk there)
- Melanie Reed
I've started referring to the HMB Ritz as the Fortress of Scobletude.
- DGentry
YouTube - Victory Yolanda Adams - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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"Truly I been through the storm and rain I know everything about heartache and pain But God carried me through it all Without His protection I'd surely fall I been broke without a dime to my name but all my bills got paid 'cause I called on Jesus name You can't tell me that God isn't real 'cause I got the victory and that's why I'm still here "
- Melanie Reed
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I needed to hear that right now. Powerful song!
- Melanie Reed
So, after paying rent, utilities, car insurance, a court fine (don't ask) and my cell phone bill, I am officially B.R.O.K.E. That court fine fucking wiped my shit out. Either I will start selling ass or panhandling for the next two weeks. Haven't officially decided yet. I hate this fucking feeling.
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:( I hope things get better
- Spidra Webster
They will when payday comes around again.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
pass me an oar. we have USD$300 to last us til 2 weeks from now. this has to cover everything that costs money. we have at least USD$900 in bills coming due before then, forget things like food and petrol. *shakes fist at the dude with the drum*
- Joe Silence is not dead
happy holidays :|
- Michael W. May
we're probly skipping xmas gifts this year. for the 3rd or 4th time in a row.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Thankfully I am very crafty, so I usually make gifts that my family is always happy with; they especially like photo gifts. Not too worried about the holidays. More worried about gas in my car. LOL.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Monique, does your local office do gas vouchers?
- Melanie Reed
My local office?
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Your township office.They should have a list of temp assistance for things like that. Mine does.
- Melanie Reed
I live in LA, and I have no idea what that is, but I'm pretty sure I don't qualify for it. Also, I should probably clarify that I am by no means desperate. I just don't like asking my parents for shit; I feel they do enough already. I'm just complaining because well, I feel whiney now after spending all my extra money on that stupid ticket. My father works in county government here, and...
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- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I'm grateful that I had the money for rent and all the other stuff I paid; I'm just irritated that everything came down at once.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
You're welcome. We do things by county here and so every county has a township (usually associated with school stuff) but you can file for temp assistance to pay a utility bill there (get caught up) and get things like gas vouchers to help get to work
- Melanie Reed
Finally cold in the Krynsky house and you know what that means!
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It gets cold in LA?
- Jesse Stay
You're tuque'd up!! Love it.
- Micah Wittman
I think it means some extra snuggling, right?
- Spidra Webster
Deerstalker's best to be had! (and I have one!) :)
- Melanie Reed
I like your thinking Spidra *taking notes*
- Mark Krynsky
I love that hat! I needs to get me one, Krynsky.
- Derrick
I've got another one in Brown Derrick...we can match.
- Mark Krynsky
Oh snap!
- Derrick
I used to have the Inca kind but it got mildewed in my old slumlord rental.
- Spidra Webster
I suddenly got the urge to yodle.
- Mark Krynsky
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