Sadness: It's gotten to where I almost always copy my post or comment to the clipboard because as often as not, FriendFeed coughs up an 'Oops' and I have to refresh and try again. Got tired of constantly retyping things so now instead of just hitting enter, I've gotten into the habit of hitting ⌘-A ⌘-C and THEN trying to post or comment.
I have had this happen a number of times
- Melanie Reed
I just realized that it never happens to me when I'm using a third-party client; it only happens in the web interface.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from BuddyFeed
Clients may try-catch and retry. Just a guess though.
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
These things are really the reason I am not posting new stuff to FF anymore. Unfortunately I have resorted to pushing out through twitter.
- Travis Koger
First harvest ever from my banana plant. They should have been cut down 2 weeks ago, but whatever. Lots of very ripe bananas. Now looking for recipes. =)
- Anika
from Bookmarklet
I have a feeling my night has turned into me make a lot of banana bread. :(
- Anika
Oh, duh! Banana chips! Totally gonna make a buttload of those.
- Anika
Oh man. Homegrown bananas! How good those must taste.
- Spidra Webster
I didn't think this one through. I hate bananas and now the kids are acting like bananas are homegrown sin. So we have a ton of them (there's a lot more not shown in this photo) and no one wants it.
- Anika
The Foothill Chapter of CA Rare Fruit Growers probably has members interested in trading fruit with you, esp for bananas.
- Spidra Webster
I can't give them away since most of them have snapped off exposing the fruit. So, I'm making banana chips and banana bread right now.
- Anika
Holy hell, if I knew bananas could taste this good, I'd not be so anti-banana. The reviews were right, it's is a very creamy and sherbet tasting banana (oh, I don't like sherbet either!). It has a slight "orange" taste. I can definitely see having these in smoothies. Super curious about how the banana bread will turn out now.
- Anika
Adapt this recipe for your banana bread. It will get rid of a lot of them, fast. Leave out the spices and use about 12 bananas if they are normal sized, more if they are smaller. http://momscookbook.blogspot.com/2006... You can also mash them and make frozen fruit pops if you are worried about them going bad.
- April Russo (app103)
Thanks, April. I like banana bread less than I like bananas, so I don't know if I want that much around the house. It will go bad after the novelty wears off.I'm making a loaf tonight to see where that goes. I know Adrian will make smoothies tomorrow. That should (hopefully) use up the ones that have split at the tips. The rest of the bunch is ripening, so I have time.
- Anika
And you mentioned 'normal' size. The 'normal' sized bananas usually sold in stores are Cavendish. These' bananas are probably about 6 inches long and 10000x sweeter.
- Anika
Tony, I think a monkey would LOVE our backyard, fetch me beer and tuck the kids in. Win-win for the whole family, I say!
- Anika
Anika, funny that I see this today. My boss just got his banana tree to "bud" this year. (his "baby") :) He just sent me the pic and It's going into the eZine I'm doing for our org. I'm looking forward to those fresh bananas after the "heart" forms. He's got 3 of these trees outside our offices.
- Melanie Reed
"The leader of Britain’s Jewish community claimed the continent’s population is in decline because people care more about shopping than the sacrifice involved in parenthood. He blamed atheist “neo-Darwinians” for Europe’s low birth rate and said religious people of all denominations are more likely to have large families."
- Noah David Simon
from Bookmarklet
"The Chief Rabbi, who entered the House of Lords last week, made his comments in a lecture on religion in the 21st century hosted by Theos, the public theology think-tank, on Wednesday night. Lord Sacks said that faith had survived so far because it could provide answers to mankind’s eternal search for meaning in life - unlike the market, the state, science or philosophy, which underpin...
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- Noah David Simon
It's interesting and saddening to watch this grow: the more moral relativists grow, the more the polar opposite grows: fundamental extremists. The question to ask, even on the shallow interpretation, is "why"? It self-describes the need on the inside to have an absolute something or someone to trust. That's not going away. So the next question to ask is why with all the other needs...
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- Melanie Reed
My experience of this European trend, while I live in Spain, has been that: 1) The same people who claim they feel "solidarity" with immigrants who are 'out-breeding' them, are also the same ones who express the greatest amount of disdain, if ever I allow my own religious belief, even if only slightly, enter a conversation. 2) Religion is only cultural for the majority of them, and it...
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- midnightgolfer
Yes, there is a huge movement of population and I think some are aware and are shutting their eyes to it (and the immediate and growing physical repercussions of gov voice loss, consumer advocate loss, job loss, etc) on the other hand there is a ray of hope in that if the good news is spread, it is spread faster now that the territory has come to us.
- Melanie Reed
Lonliness is one of the worst feelings in the world, I feel it now, if I could I'd bear all of the worlds lonliness I would, I don't wish it on anyone...
Kyle, I want you to get quiet and listen. That's why this time is here in your life. It is hardest gift you could ever get. But that is where He is: in the silence and lonely times. He is always there: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage... And He is the best friend you and I will ever have. Ask Him tonight and what you need He will provide. Things will start to change. You watch.:)
- Melanie Reed
If "user data is sacred", and "user time is precious", then why do we still put up with archaic file systems and implementations of them that are more than happy to corrupt data silently, or otherwise decay over time; and bloated, inefficient software with awful UIs that were seemingly designed to frustrate users?
1. Because making things better requires more than just an awareness of how things suck? 2. The resources required to update archaic file systems, etc. are resources which could be used in an alternate manner, and people do chose to use those resources on some other goal. 3. Because there is fortunately no "we" that can just put it's foot down and say "Everyone - update your archaic file systems and switch to this UI, or you will feel our wrath!". There's a few possibilities.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Valid points there, SuezanneC Baskerville. Of course, I don't expect overnight transitions, or even miracles - after all, I'm used to being disappointed, and hearing news of vapourware that was supposedly going to revolutionise everything...
- Tyson Key
Designing good software is hard, designing good UI can be REALLY hard. One of the bigger problems with UI is no two consecutive users will even agree on what is good and bad. You can get users to agree that a UI is good when its finished and they see it and it is good, but the process to getting there when starting from scratch is really hard. Good UI designers are under appreciated artists of the software development world and most of them seem to be at Apple.
- Ed Millard
The problem with bloated and inefficient is that most software starts life being designed for functionality, as in we want it to do this, and then at the end of its life cycle the goal is getting all the bugs out. Performance and bloat are frequently pushed to the bottom of the priority list, unless performance is critical to market success which it often isn't.
- Ed Millard
After all, we're still using the abomination that is the FAT family of file systems, decades after their introduction for interchange purposes, despite superior technologies being developed in that space of time... (Just an example).
- Tyson Key
What FS are you proposing as an interchange standard? I think FAT is still dominant because Windows is still dominant and Microsoft wont adopt anything it didn't invent which mostly leaves FAT and NTFS. FAT is a lot simpler than NTFS and you generally want simple for interchange and something being integrated in a lot of consumer electronics.
- Ed Millard
Hmm. Tyson, A switch to a different filesystem (for example a journaling one, or one that incorporates various forms of fault-tolerance) would do *nothing* to fix UI problems (even paradigmatic ones). You're talking about two mostly unrelated problems, except insofar as they are both exacerbated by the momentum of user behavior and acceptance.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I know. I never said that they were related, and I guess that I mis-phrased my initial post. It was intended as food for thought, though.
- Tyson Key
@Ed - UDF is more than suitable, although of course, persuading vendors and users alike to switch would be an impossible task, as mentioned.
- Tyson Key
On the subject of performance tuning, and bloat reduction, a lot of things have been proposed in the past, although they haven't always yielded viable results. Naturally, it doesn't help that "bloat" is subjective, or that hardware development is progressing at a markedly different pace, either.
- Tyson Key
We've tried "hyper-modularity" previously with microkernel-based OSes, component-based document creation technology (e.g. OpenDoc), and client-server software architectures, amongst other things, in the hope that "bloat" can be reduced, and performance/reliability can be increased, and the plans backfired in various ways. (Developers and users either decried the results as "slow", "clunky" or as generally being difficult to develop with)...
- Tyson Key
UDF seems possible, though they seem to be marketing it only as a standard for optical media. Its not clear if it would be a good fit for Flash drives, though maybe it is. If the Wikipedia chart is correct it appears there is sufficient OS support for 1.5 it could be a standard. The next battle would presumably to get device makers to support it(i.e. cameras, phone), and there could be inertia there.
- Ed Millard
It makes the most sense from a compatibility perspective, given that Mac OS X, Linux, Solaris and a number of reasonably cheap devices support it well, and that it's possible to use it on Flash and magnetic media (as Iomega have done in the past with Jaz disks and their Rev product line).
- Tyson Key
Sadly, Microsoft were predictably slow to jump on the bandwagon with non-optical support - formatting support was added to Windows Vista, but is only exposed as an argument to a CLI utility, and said implementation is incompatible with most other implementations, due to a non-standard quirk/defect that may have been added in an attempt to sabotage interoperability with other implementations...
- Tyson Key
Barring a few low-quality implementations on the Windows platform by third-parties, UDF happens to support metadata from various OSes natively in a safe manner (i.e. implementations that don't know how to manipulate a piece of metadata will simply ignore it, but will also add their own, if necessary - as happens when sharing a volume between Linux and Mac OS X).
- Tyson Key
Since Microsoft won its FAT patents in 2006, I think their goal was to make FAT licensing a revenue stream, a means for influencing the device market, and to annoy competitors like Linux and Mac. It would be like them to intentionally obstruct UDF for purely business reasons. Let's hope the Supreme Court case on process patents ends some of this madness soon, though I wouldn't count on it.
- Ed Millard
It's a shame that some will actively subvert standards, and aim to deliberately prevent any chance of natural interoperability occurring. C'est la vie, though. :(
- Tyson Key
It doesn't help that Microsoft are planning on unleashing yet another, patent-infested FAT variant upon the world, in the form of exFAT, either - which is planned for use in the upcoming SDXC Flash media standard. I believe that people are working on reverse-engineering it, though.
- Tyson Key
Well I guess we answered one of your original questions. We end up with bad technology sometimes because there are big, powerful, companies who have a vested interest in and profit off it. Microsoft certainly isn't the only one, they've just historically been the best at it.
- Ed Millard
Thinking about taking 2 steps back in order to move forward in a new direction with this whole job thing. Whatcha mean, you ask? Well, back in the way back (at least in internet years) I worked for a non-profit. Have found a job in the non-profit sector that I think, with some resume reworking and an interview, I could get and do well with.
None of this sounds like anything really spectacular I know, but with it being a non-profit odds are the pay won't be near what I was making before. The upside is that it would be an organization I'm familiar with and support, whereas before the software I was making was used for something I didn't support (offshoring).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'll join you in your thoughts. I've never worked for a non-profit, but I've interviewed with them before, and there's always the chance that the non-profit could take advantage of its non-profit status and pay you less than it could afford to pay. But other than that, it sounds like a plan, especially if you'd agree more with what the non-profit does than what a for-profit would do.
- John E. Bredehoft
Yes, the pay issue I've experienced first hand the last time I worked for a non-profit. With that said, this is an organization that's large enough to offer career growth, whereas the last was a local organization filled with 'lifers': I wasn't going to go anywhere even if I'd stayed on. Mainly, in a perfect world I want to work for a company I respect doing a job I'm good at that *fingers crossed* will last me more than 3 years without a layoff or shutdown.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I was offered a full-time position this week working for a non-profit (out of nowhere, I didn't apply for it). $25k a year for M-F, 8-5, and 9-12 on Saturday. Also, no benefits. It was a difficult decision, but I turned them down. ;-) Hope yours is a better offer. Non-profit jobs can be very rewarding.
- Trish R
be careful, Im 2 years into that situation and its tricky. Working in IT for a long time, you adopt a certain professionalism without realizing it. You take for granted that certain things are understood, and that is not always the case. I did it, I'd do it again, but did not realize what I was in for. Think it through, your call, good luck
- echostreamer
lol I probably would have killed to make $25k when I worked at a non-profit.
- Dragon Goldmaple
This particular opening isn't a tech position though it does require a certain amount of tech skills. The biggest issue I had the last time I went through the non-profit wringer was being taken for granted. I was responsible for staffing the local crisis line and if someone didn't show up and no replacements were found, guess who took the shift... Not that I minded being on the lines, but a human can only work so many 36 hour days before it catches up with her.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
There's no such thing as "taking a step back"!
- Paul Reynolds
Hmmm... Are you saying there's no such thing as in the sense of "There IS no spoon!" or in the sense of "NOOOOOoooooooooooo don't do it!!!"
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
any action is a step forward, if you don't take it, you're standing still and sometimes that's the best place to be. ethically, working for a nonprofit could be a step forward not back. all depends on your perspective.
- echostreamer
Tina, if you scope out a non-profit that uses The Raiser's Edge fundraising software, and you need a 'crash course' - you let me know :)
- Micah Wittman
Tina, I am glad to be working for a non-profit. It's an extremely peaceful atmosphere. And I feel my work there is worthwhile. And yes, it was a total departure for me. For me, it was God grabbing me and getting my attention from what appeared to be a very bright academic future in one direction and turning me around to where people are really benefiting from what I learned to do, instead of me benefiting from it. I would never want to go back.
- Melanie Reed
I took an 80% pay cut (!!) to be happy and move back to Myrtle Beach. There were no prospects of building on my 7 year experience in video games. I have never once regretted it. There is no spoon.
- Paul Reynolds
from BuddyFeed
Paul, that's what I thought you meant but it never hurts to double check =D I'm surprised I didn't know so many FFers are or were in the non-profit sector. I might have to throw up the bat signal to you all if I have questions during this process!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Doing work you respect and having the opportunity for growth are pluses that are hard to calculate into the salary and benefits package but they do contribute to your sense of wellbeing. Go for it and best wishes, Tina.
- Polly Potter
Polly, your first sentence is *exactly* what I was trying to express earlier in this thread. Thank you =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Trish, Josh will hate me, but there are sticker kits that he can apply to the patches and will survive the wash. That's what I use.
- Jesse Stay
Huh. I guess that would make life easier. I was thinking you were pretty amazing to be sewing your patches on. Sneaky.
- Trish Haley
We just used the stickers for our new scout. For years we had sewn them on (well, we had someone sew them on for us). But no more. Badge Magic FTW (http://www.badgemagic.com)
- Craig Eddy
Thanks Craig for the link... I'll be looking into it for future. Oh... wait. I have a fabric glue that I use for making hair bows. Going to try it. :D
- Trish Haley
Wait, is that a picture of the Virgin Mary I see in the shell? Ebay or Letterman I think are the only choices.
- Brian Sullivan
Jason, probably not. It was just the only 3 nut peanut in my bunch of peanuts at Five Guys Burgers tonight. I think 4 in one shell would have been truly amazing. I wonder what the world record is?
- Kamilah Gill
I'm convinced the area you're living in is radio-active. All these mutations! ;-)
- Kittyburgers
U frnds R indeed in our prayers cuz UnIB livin in the last days..4 real! Time2 look up 4our redemption is drawing near.” http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...
We Christians ain’t better than others, just better off in Christ. Good ppl don't go 2 heaven-forgiven ppl do. Time2Turn. http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...
Happy Birthday, Kol! Thirty three was a pretty good year for me and I have a feeling you're going to LOVE It :) Best wishes, congrats and go celebrate!
- Holly Rae, FFer
Thank you v much, Dee. Hope you're well?
- Kol Tregaskes
Many Happy returns, Kol. 33? Oh yes, It was back there somewhere. Not a memorable one, but left to my own devices I don't bother about my birthday.
- Ian May
Happiest of Birthdays..................33 years old ...........boy both my kids are older thinking as I type this I am getting older by the minute.......................
- VAL D.
I am beginning to finally get it... If you post on Friendfeed you get comments... If you post on Twitter, you get followers. If you are marketing something (e.g. your blog/brand, your product/service) getting followers is much better than getting comments.
You need to than unfollow those users...:)) Twitter is a lot more about broadcasting and getting followers is like a drug.. the more you broadcast the more followers you get :)
- Bindu Reddy
Getting followers doesn't really mean anything: 390 of the 400 followers I have on Twitter never act or do anything with what I say on it. Getting them to convert is the meaningful part of the marketing proposition, and conversations, I've found, are far more effective at that.
- Mark Trapp
So, what's the FAQ for interaction on Twitter? I had a post that got 100+ comments the other day here on Friendfeed but no response on Twitter. I must be doing something wrong over there.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
twitter seems to be great for people who are lazy and not really savvy about marketing. it's sort of like shouting into the void, and you might get a few people to respond, but do you really get people to act?
- Bren, Photophobe
@Mark, I agree with you.. However to a lot of people having a follower number like 10K/20K, which seems like a relatively easily thing to do on Twitter, is not only just a high but it is also a good way to keep in touch with your audience without spending too much time... Here keeping in touch with your audience is way more time consuming
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, but keeping in touch doesn't mean anything if they're not listening. You can have a million followers, but if you're not getting any of them to act on what you're saying, it doesn't mean much. Getting conversations going with people, who may or may not be followers, which Twitter is pretty bad at, are more effective at getting people to convert. I just had a relatively popular...
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- Mark Trapp
Bindu, I'm following you (FF) and I just commented too :)
- Micah Wittman
@Mark, Curious how did you get them to go to your website?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, if I knew that I'd have it made. Near as I can tell, people were doing Twitter and Google searches for "twitter list," and then started retweeting it and sharing it from there.
- Mark Trapp
Following is such a low-risk endeavor that people don't put thought into it: they'll follow anyone and everyone. You even have people thinking it's common decency to automatically follow people if they follow you without even thinking about if their content is interesting. Following is the 21st century equivalent of receiving a phone book or the yellow pages: you do it just in case you need to contact or get ahold of someone in the future, but nobody ever realistically does.
- Mark Trapp
Yep, it's like collecting business cards that get neatly filed into a big binder. It's about the self-satisfaction of the collection - you feel more connected / networked / important and avoid doing the hard work of cold calling or meeting with people and building something or whatever.
- Micah Wittman
I agree with following being a low-risk effort... However I have also heard of ppl gaining value from Twitter without much effort. Take for example this coffeshop I am a big fan of - sightglass coffee. They get a lot of customers from Twitter. It takes them relatively little time to tweet and they get customers. It would be very hard to achieve the same on FF.
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get lots of conversation on Twitter, too. One of the reasons I am there more than here is because people with common interest in my political obsessions are there, but not here.
- Karoli
Karoli - Yes, the Twitterverse is way more diverse than the FFverse. Curious do you get more comments/conversations per post on Twitter as compared to FF or is it that you you post more stuff because time spent per post is lower on Twitter
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get very little response to political conversations/comments on FF - a couple of folks follow here but a very small percentage compared to twitter. I tried to pull people over here, but they didn't understand why they should leave tweetdeck and their twitter setup for new territory.
- Karoli
Geeks (+ early adopters, influential folks, the elite ...) are on FriendFeed and the proletariat on Twitter? Long live the dictatorship of the proletariat? Calls for action work best when the audience actually cares, so prolly that's all about choosing the right medium for the targeted punters?
- Sebastian
Sebastian... yes agree the geeks and tech bloggers are on FF... However if you are marketing say a fashion or beauty blog. You won't get much interest here. twitter is the place for you :)
- Bindu Reddy
I disagree with that statement, Bindu. There's a LOT of non-tech getting traction on FriendFeed. So much so that it's the number one reason Scoble no longer enjoys being here: he says he doesn't see enough tech for his liking.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Just butting in here to mention that there are tons of uses for both twitter and friendfeed that have nothing whatsoever to do with marketing. In fact, once could make the argument that social networks such as these were designed to get away from marketing. Unlike radio, TV, or even a web search, you choose who you'll be receiving information from. If you're looking to exchange...
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- Mr. Gunn
Bindu, what I'm sick of is marketers broadcasting their sales pitches to all social media outlets out there, regardless whether the audience might fit or not. Anyways, i'ts possible to attract a few somewhat intelligent responses to geeky topics at Twitter, at least when xmas and independence day share the same date. Most probably I wouldn't try to sell wonder bras at FF, though.
- Sebastian
@Tina ... umm I have not been an avid user of FF lately so maybe it has become pretty diverse. Are you saying there are a lot of people on here with specific interests such as politics, beauty etc?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: Ning is a better place to go if you have very specific topics you want to talk about. They are growing a FriendFeed every 12 days (they are getting a million new users that often and have just passed 38 million registered). FriendFeed is fun if you aren't sure what you want to chat about and you're cool with seeing lots of family pictures and goofy stuff. Tina is right that the hard-core geeks are mostly on Twitter or Facebook now, I keep watching here, though.
- Robert Scoble
Karoli I get all kinds of action here on political topics. I have more followers on Twitter but rarely get a response there. Here I got 80+ comments yesterday.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
MVB, Karoli is a prolific voice on twitter. Twitter seems quite effective for political advocacy/activism even though longer form convos have to break out somewhere else. Also, just like friendfeed, volume / steady presence can make all the difference. Your tweet count is ~2K; Karoli's over 63K.
- Micah Wittman
My presence here is similar to Kaoli's on Twitter, then. So, presence is a mitigating factor. But, Micah, as you so deftly point out, for a long conversation there needs to be a move to another venue. That's where here works better, since it can stay right here.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
We agree, and can agreed at length right here, folks :)
- Micah Wittman
So link your twitter to your friendfeed. Get followers and comments. The best of both worlds.
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Does it make any difference here whether the original post was to Twitter and reposted here automatically or the original post was directly here? In other words, does the FF community prefer to comment on direct posts rather than Twitter reposts?
- Jimmy Walker
Jimmy: it honestly depends on who you interact with on FriendFeed. There are people who get irate about people only posting to Twitter and openly advocate using FriendFeed directly, and yet, there are interesting people who always get a conversation going around their tweets. One thing that sometimes helps is coming back to FriendFeed and elaborating on your tweet, or to do more than...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark, that sounds like good advice. Thanks.
- Jimmy Walker
This is a fantastic idea. I wish I had this software when I had my accident because it would have helped make the experience less stressfull.
- James Robertson
I'm convinced miracles happen: 2nd time,my Father-in-law has got up from what some called his "death bed" & is laughing & smiling again. [Edit: Updated info: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde...]