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don't... they will delete your account. you are talking about corporations here? or real business? How is it that Hamas and Hezballah have a twitter account and somehow twitter thinks I am more dangerous? What a joke this twitter network really is. - Noah David Simon

Hey.. what can I say? I was left speechless. I don't understand how Chris has all this information flowing. ALL THE TIME. - Kyle Lacy

24/7: Chris Brogan's brain: Open all night. - Kyle Lacy

Noah is right. Corporations are not business. This might be better used for the government of China. twitter is not good for small business. - ❁ⓟⓘⓝⓚ❁ⓖⓐⓡⓓⓔⓝ❁

I completely disagree. I have gotten business from Twitter.. it is about authenticity and creating relationships.. not spamming. - Kyle Lacy

The problem is most small biz owners have yet to learn how to communicate via social media.. they can learn though. - Kyle Lacy

time time time... small biz don't have the time... Chris Brogan mentioned large corporations. your point is moot Kyle - Noah David Simon

and solo act too, Noah. But Kyle, if existing strategies that you are familiar with work for you, then fine. Otherwise, I don't know there's other options but to go out from the comfort zone and learn. - Hendry Lee from twhirl

I see a lot of uses for social media.... but it is not advertising and PR. ....education, entertainment... even employment bonding... but promotion is not best here... unless you can really overburden a scene... and that is very very wrong. as for a mom and pop biz... they simply can't get iJustine and Veronica to gee golly wiz the little guy. I'm an artist... and I have optimism... but artists are small business people... and for the most part... this social media experience has been a fail. - Noah David Simon

if anything this experience has hurt my reputation... I would never recommend doing this unless this is what you want to do full time... twitter is unforgiving and libelous. - Noah David Simon

that isn't to say that it is bad here. I mention iJustine... who is nice enough to leave my drawings on her facebook profile... however... in the long run promotion here has been a hole in my time. this is an incestuous mono-culture. There is no place for any free thought... or persuasion. - Noah David Simon

if anything social media is a very efficient brain washing tool. Resistance is futile... you must support this cause or you are blocked and no one reads your comments. it is frankly a sad interaction... and experiment in mob tyranny. The worst aspect of a niche market. Twitter is going to go down in history as a social experiment that made people very miserable and lashed out at the people who put their time into it. ...it remains to be seen if something better can come along.... - Noah David Simon

somehow I have a feeling that what takes twitter's place will not have the kind of zealous idealism that twitter had. the whole idea of free expression failed when twitter left a hole open for @panopticons. free expression and retweeting no longer were legitimate. they crucified the questioner. - Noah David Simon

free will in an infrastructure is not a good archetype. the inherent nature of socializing will test the lines... so now we know we want structure... and once that enters the equation then it is no longer social like life itself. online interaction is inherantly built on training wheels... (those training wheels better not be business promotion) - Noah David Simon

btw... I mention free thought and persuasion... the only reason I'm getting away with saying this is because you probably agree with me. it isn't that twitter isn't for big business, but rather that is inherently a mob tyranny and perhaps big corporations are natural to this ecosystem. Why encourage it? It is not good at all. - Noah David Simon

Is it okay to mix business with the personal on Twitter? My fed agency doesn't have a handle on how to use socmed tools, so I've just been exploring them on my own. I view it as 50% devoted to my personal life and 50% devoted to promoting the NEA and the arts/culture in general. Does it discredit the NEA work that under the same handle I twitter about which workout videos I'm currently... more... - Paulette Beete

@Paulette- I say yes. In fact, it's required. You have to be human. - Chris Brogan

Paulette twitter is perfect for a government agency. That is why twitter accepts terrorist governments like Hamas but not artists like myself. I would keep your personal maintenance to yourself as a rule of thumb. BTW I just farted. - Noah David Simon

@Noah small biz do not have time because they are confused on how to utilize the tool. - Kyle Lacy

Kyle the way to use the tool is through group peer pressure and intimidation. "mom and pop businesses" just don't know who to do that well. so I guess we agree Kyle. If they knew how to intimidate and humiliate any self interested individuals then they wouldn't be small business, they would be the Democratic party. - Noah David Simon

haha. touche, Noah, touche. - Kyle Lacy

Thanks for sharing, nice suggestions and ideas. I'm going to tweet this ☺ - Patty

I'm not sure I like being right this time - Noah David Simon

Tremendous post! At the end of the day, there is no question that Twitter optimizes communication-and what company does not want to optimize their communication channels at all levels?! - Harold Cabezas

Chris: Love your ezines & your 50 ways to use twitter article. You might want to check out the twitter article I posted at http://tinyurl.com/5q33h4 - I appreciate you! - http://twitter.com/gfb3 - Girard Frank Bolton, III.

Nice article, Chris. These are all great ideas to help promote the use of social media throughout business. I think the most important barrier to adoption is the fact that Twitter is a major distraction...IF you allow it to be. However, if you use it at your own pace and under your control it can be quite a useful tool. Cheers, AL - Al Bsharah

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Yes, why yes they are, been hanging out at CC Mixter and Opscom which do "free" music (unknown bands) more than anything else lately, even though I have ITunes. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

They have been digging it for the last 10 years... must be really deep because many many people must fit in it. - Fabrice Epelboin from twhirl

They have been for a long time. Ever since someone decided they were more important than the customer. - Brandon Titus

duh - @baratunde from twhirl

i'm happy band section still work in muxtape, would be the damn bad if it was not working for us (buzzworkers) - Ben Borges

That one is an easy answer. The crazy thing is, I still see artists spew the same tired RIAA line about down sales = piracy while real innovators are creating their own marketing hype. Many, such as hiphop artists, are moving to labels such as Koch where they press the records/CD's/publish downloads online and let the artist take care of marketing and promotion. This way the artist... more... - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

If the artist is doing their own promotion, what is the point of the record company again? - stretta from twhirl

Interesting post about Pandora on the edge of closeing due to increased royalty fees. http://arstechnica.com/news... - Bryan Thatcher from twhirl

The point of a record company can still be a central distribution point. Some could maybe handle it themselves, but I would image distributing CDs and setting up with digital distributors is still logistical nightmare for a single artist to handle on their own. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Matthew - If the artist is able to produce and master their own music with professional quality, there's little need for the record company since you can always start your own. Many smart artists have done this because it funnel's the bulk of the CD sales into their pockets. - Jim McCusker

Exactly. I was responding to Erics comment. - stretta from twhirl

Eric - there are options for artists. cdbaby will set up digital distribution with dozens of companies. There is no need for a record company between the artist and fans. - stretta from twhirl

Matthew, that's pretty cool, but can they still get you stocked at Target and Best Buy? If they can then cool, but I didn't see anything on their website about that. A label like Koch can. This is why some will still want to go with a label with established ties to retail and distribution. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Eric, getting stocked at Best Buy and Target only make sense if you're undertaking a nation wide promotional campaign, and if you're doing that, you're talking about a huge investment that is way, WAY beyond the scope of the independent artist. If you want to sell a physical product to a nationwide audience, the amazon advantage program is where it is at. - stretta from twhirl

It's quickly becoming a management-based industry, with managers replacing record labels. As artists are able to control their own production, distribution, promotion, etc there becomes the need for someone to help organize and run these aspects. The manager steps in to focus on the business and mechanics, freeing the artist to be 'creative' and/or tour ... which, of course, used to be a purpose the record label served. - M. Donaldson

More simply, getting stocked at Best Buy isn't the issue. Creating the demand that merits getting stocked at Best Buy is, and if you've done that, you don't need Koch. - stretta from twhirl

Having sat on the sidelines and about to embark on my own music career, I'm both excited and scared at the serious flailing about the music industry is doing. I'm confident I can get myself out there without the help/harm of a large record label -- either as an independent or on my own. There is *so much* opportunity to get real music out there that I'm not too worried about the distractions of the RIAA... - Tracy Ruggles

Tracy, this is the best time in history to be an independent musician IMO. I've done a major label stint as well as time on assorted indies and I'm personally having more fun (and making a more consistent living at it) now that I'm on my own. The advantage nowadays goes to the most creative rather than the one with the biggest marketing budget, and that's really exciting. - M. Donaldson

Please tell me that is a rhetorical question right? - John (ColderICE) from twhirl

What's a music industry? - Pascal

The recent Bloc Party release is another example of the compromise model that will work for a portion of artists, labels, and consumers... release quality digital format at low cost (not free) ahead of leaks. Release compelling physical product shortly after including extras for top fans. - Amir Gharaat

Bryne and Eno are using the same exact model Amir refers to ... their new album was released digitally yesterday, but won't be out physically until November 30. A special edition of the CD will contain extra tracks. http://www.everythingthathappens.com/order... ... it's like the early adopters are putting a down payment on the manufacturing of the final product. - M. Donaldson

Release the animal prisoners from the zoos! - Steven E. Streight

I wonder how the hunters would feel if the deer had guns! - Taryn Merrick from twhirl

LOL Owned. - Jim Goldstein

"Believe it or not (not that this animal is very dangerous) car accidents caused by deer claimed 83 human lives in car crashes in 2000 in the U.S." - http://wiki.answers.com/Q... - AJ Batac

It is dangerous. There was a freak accident in KS about a month ago where a man was killed when another car hit a deer sending the animal careening through the doomed man's vehicle. I feel fortunate the one time I hit a deer that both the animal and me were fine. -

@aj: Yeah, the deers are the sucky drivers. No wonder they cause that many accidents... - Jemm

My dad says he once killed a deer with a shot put. No joke. He used to coach track. He hit it with the car and killed it, so he put it in the trunk. The deer was just stunned, and it woke up by the time he got home. He finished the deer off with a shot put. I had no idea my dad was this kind of badass. - ha3rvey (wants confit)

Ouch! - Håkan Dahlström

Bambi looks postal - terrific! - Aspi from twhirl

Excellent! - Euan

I think Friendfeed will become the Ether of social interaction and that more and more networks would be wise to integrate... It's a good move IMO. - Charles Heflin

sorry, what's Facebook? - Ivan Pope from twhirl

IF the "right" people start using FB's "mini FF" it will hurt FF BUT I agree that a very different community will use FB's instead - Thomas Ho

Yes. They have all the users. They don't need superior technology. - Hao Chen

Need to see how the Facebook UI works. It will be interesting because my Facebook soc net is totally different from my FriendFeed soc net. Curious to see how the FB crowd reacts to this feature. - Hutch Carpenter

It may slow Facebook user migration to FriendFeed. Although FriendFeed is constantly improving the service with new features...so we'll see. - Chris Rossini

For FB to become a relevant competitor to FF it will require users to utilize the new services importing features of the mini-feed. I don't currently see many people using it. Also, the news feed can get noisy displaying all the interactions within their own service. This is not an issue on FF. FB would need to provide better filtering mechanisms for that as well. - Mark Krynsky

Nope, FF <> TB, different communities so I agree with @shelisrael. - Mike Reynolds

Most people are still learning to use it, so i think FF Is still leading, im using both on my FB Profile - Ben Borges from fftogo

No. I use it, and, if anything, it generates interest in FF. - RAPatton

FriendFeed still beats the Facebook comment option in its simplicity.. and if you're on Facebook, ask yourself how much time you actually spend on people's individual profile pages.... - Chris Reed

Facebook is definitely a different market/audience to Friendfeed - would be interesting how the FB mini-Friendfeed is used in practice by the FB users... - David W

Ooh interesting! Hadn't heard about this. I think it could bring FriendFeed to the masses. Once they get a taste for conversation in Facebook, we pull them in here. You know, kind of like drugs. ; ) - Carla Thompson

@Mark so Facebook has a lifestreaming feature now that imports services into its mini-feed? WHERE does one set up those services? - Thomas Ho

let's hope facebookers stay away from ff!! fg - Dieter Schwarz

I agree. FriendFeed must be on to it's next major endeavor. I am excited to try this feature out on FB - Taryn Merrick from twhirl

Keep Friendfeed separate. facebookings no thank you. - Tom

I pull my friendfeed updates into my minifeed. My minifeed = FF. I only use Facebook to Scrabulous. No impact here. - Steve Lynch from Alert Thingy

I see it as an augmentation of the current mini-feed system. I like it. The only down side is segmented replies/comments, since I use a FriendFeed app on Facebook. - Paul Whitaker

Like Paul, I use my FF app through FB. Conflict of interest in this? Will FB stop supporting FF? The difference with Twitter and FF I can see. FB mini-ff and FF, I don't know.... - Melanie Reed

I use FrienFeed App on my Facebook profile, so I don't really see a need to utilize yet another feed, but I won't turn it off. I'll see what happens. - Sean Hanna from twhirl

No. Using Facebook less and less because it's overrun with app invites (e.g - sheep throwing, lil-green patch, what Seinfeld character are you? etc.) FF is clean and interesting. - AJ Kohn

Well, it pissed off all my friends because my feeds were spamming them. Really sucked. - Daniel Morgan from twhirl

I have only 1 question ... is it coffee flavored coffee? - John Blanton from twhirl

Heh heh... I read this as "I am coffee." Can't decide which I like better... - Lisa L. Seifert

I discovered the perfect grind for brewing, 19 whirs in the coffee grinder :-) - Taryn Merrick from twhirl