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WTF? Novell is implementing Wave for the Enterprise? @mgloerich says. You think enterprise guys will get THAT? Hahahahah!
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wonder what microsoft thinks of that given the novell microsoft alliance.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Well, it took a while for enterprises to 'get' wikis to.
- James Kuypers
Makes perfect sense. Wave is a technology that's still in development. If the bugs and quirks can be ironed out it's very suitable for Enterprise situations. A company like Novell is well placed to steer that development.
- Eoghann Irving
I think enterprises will "get" Wave. As far as business is concerned (other than marketing) Twitter, FF are toys. Wave is a potential business tool that can solve real problems. That is why most Twitter and FF fan boys don't get it.
- Brian Sullivan
i think that small groups collaborating is probably going to be the sweet spot for wave
- Chris Heath
great!
- Владимир
I wonder what they'll discuss at the Enterprise 2.0 conference: http://bit.ly/2o7uqN
- Melle Gloerich
Map of all Google data center locations - http://royal.pingdom.com/2008...
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"Data Center Knowledge recently published a “Google Data Center FAQ”. As most other web geeks, we here at Pingdom tend to find this kind of information quite fascinating. We have extracted some interesting tidbits, and also used the information to construct a map with all current and under-construction Google data center locations that are known today. So how many data centers do Google use, and where are they? Google data center locations If you include data centers that are under construction, Google has 19 locations in the US where they operate data centers, 12 in Europe, one in Russia, one in South America, and three in Asia. Not all of the locations are dedicated Google data centers, since they sometimes lease space in other companies’ data centers."
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
How much does Google spend on data centers? According to Google’s earnings reports, they spent $1.9 billion on data centers in 2006, and $2.4 billion in 2007. Google unveiled four new data center projects in 2007. Each has a cost estimate of $600 million, which will include everything from construction to equipment and computers. Google’s criteria when selecting locations for data...
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- Cee Bee
nice!
- TheHenry
I like to imagine there are one or two secret undersea mid-Atlantic or mid-Pacific datacenters, buried along the transoceanic fiber optic cables and powered by tides or geothermals or what have you. I suppose maintenance access would be horrendous, though.
- Andrew C (✓)
there was a report last year rumouring a huge data center being built under a hydro damn in china with estimates of up to 1 million servers: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
- Cee Bee
Hah! Well, I guess that's still pretty James Bond-y.
- Andrew C (✓)
I wonder how long before we see a Google data center in Australia -]
- Chris Loft
i'm surprised there isn't one there already. i wonder why that is
- Cee Bee
Kara says “no Google deal” for Twitter - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Well, that was fun while it lasted.
- Robert Scoble
Notice how good reporting unearths the facts, all though it isn't as fast
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
Google may as well implement the twitter function along with gmail and get over with it.
- Chirag Chamoli
Google buying Twitter would make me "trust" Twitter a little more, but it seems like they could build the functionality into Orkut and give us a reason actually want to use Orkut. Still grateful FaceBook did not buy Twitter!
- Jamie Ginsberg
I think that twitter aren't even thinking to sell to anyone, they raised fund this year, their scalability pb are less for day to days the service is more stable then in the past, and the search service is promising there is no rason to sell. and to go a step further I think that they will make investement, acquire some startup related to stock analysis they will bring real time fianance analysis, at least I will do if I had a chair in twitter.
- abdellah
Seems like Google would be gun-shy after Jaiku, anyway. Plus, Twitter would be stale for over a year while it gets ported to Google's infrastructure, which would kill any momentum it has this year. These deals always sound so based in fantasyland.
- Mark Trapp
I happen to think that Twitter is an inane over-hyped useless piece of junk, but all the same I can't see a Google deal as being good for it. After Dodgeball and Jaiku, we can only conclude it's not a space Google plays well in.
- Eric P
CNN/Money - Fortune agrees: no deal. http://is.gd/qwTn
- Lorin Olsen
Twitter wasn't able to kill off Twitter, why do you think Google would be able to? Twitter today isn't what dodgeball and jaiku were a couple years ago. Plus Ev has already been through one Google merger.
- Erik S
I don't care if you fake follow me. I don't define myself by who follows me, but I define myself by who +I+ follow! I follow smart people who teach me things and put interesting stuff in my view. If you stop, or prove to be a jerk or a troll, then I'll just unsubscribe.
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All I can say to that is, you better enjoy a lot of good German brews while you're there. It's non-sequitor, and that is what you should expect from me.
- Pete D
Wait. Isn't Robert Scoble just Alex Scoble's older brother?
- Akiva
Pete, the correct spelling is "Mississippi." And Robert, "The Metro" and "Take My Breath Away" are really good songs. And I think you'd agree that the content that you obtain from your subscribees is more important than your subscribee count. It's a content game, not a numbers game.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Akiva: yup, Alex is my younger brother. You can't really blame him for how he is. I used to beat him up. Of course, he gave me my issues with authority. He told mom. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Pete: Rocky already found a bar that has hundreds of beers. I have a feeling we'll be seen there once or twice between now and Sunday.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, he seems to be doing all right so far!
- Akiva
Great example of being quality-centered instead of market-centered... do what you love and a market will find you...
- Justin Long
@Akiva, yeah, robert scoble uses his last name to get by on alex's gig.
- Morgan Warstler
Akiva- You are the man...that's the funniest stuff I've seen since the whole Korn of the Blog thing.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
[courtsies]
- Akiva
@Pete - I just want you to know that your non sequitur above ended up inspiring dozens of non sequiturs on FriendFeed this evening. I hope you're Melvin about that.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
LOL@Akiva!!!!
- Rah-PM 2012
That's one of the many things I like about FriendFeed: how many people follow you isn't displayed at the top level. I hope that doesn't change. I think a lot of people on Twitter (and other social networks) only obsess over their followers/friends just because everyone else can see it. I also think that's why a lot of people don't like FriendFeed... you've got to give substance to get substance.
- Paul Reynolds
@Ontario I've stopped shaking my fist, just so you know.
- Pete D
Agreed - I don't think I'll ever "fake follow". I'd rather just unsubscribe - those I follow I try to pay attention to.
- Jesse Stay
How does one 'fake follow' a person? Is it hard? Is it fun? Can I do it?
- Michael Moran
I agree with you Robert as I don't see any valid reason for me as an individual to fake follow anyone!
- Joe Dawson
Yeah @robert, how or whats "fake follow" ?
- Arjun
Agree on this, though I think from a feature perspective it's a smart one!
- Vinodh Nandakumar
That's my take on it 100%
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
NEW (February 25): Of course two weeks ago I started auto following again. Why? Cause Direct Messaging on Twitter is broken. But here on friendfeed I have a different philosophy. I am using lists to follow specific people and segregate those out from other people. So I can keep the geeks who talk tech separate from my brother, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
That said, I assume everyone is smart until they prove otherwise. :-)
- Robert Scoble
i just wish people would stop talking about following in general :P
- Terry O'Fee
This would have more credibility now Robert if you protested the capping of manual follows at 2000 until you get followers of that number and can move on now. You got to autofollow with abandon; today normal people are capped on manual follows. Unfair.
- Prokofy Neva
Holy hell, this thread is 6 months old!
- coldbrew
Who's this Goon posing as you? http://friendfeed.com/e... imitation is the finest form of flattery?
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I would agree with Garin, followers/following is not important, but discussion is. BTW, Loic is very good a starting this type of arguments (must be his French side).
- Jeremy Chone
dont worry, matt. there's about five or six conversations of the same discussion now.
- Terry O'Fee
lol - I really enjoy your posts and convo - I learn many things - and thanks for the laughs too : )
- Mark Harai
I'd respond to this thread but necro-posting creates zombie threads and zombie threads eat Brrraaaiiinnnnsss! :P
- MarkCarras
Robert you have alot to teach and you seem teachable also-sign of a good journalist.
- earlewallace
LOL
- Terry O'Fee
lol
- Arjun
I noticed a considerable drop off in visits to my blog since I stopped tweeting. This could be in part to the holidays too. I'll have to run the experiment longer to see how it goes.
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Maybe that is because the uptake on FriendFeed isn't as high as Twitter. Its a chicken and egg situation, though I figure I will persevere on with using FriendFeed
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
I prefer you on Twitter. Signal to noise ratio here on Friendfeed is lower so I visit much less often.
- dennis d. mcdonald
@ddmcd Between the hide function and being selective in my subscriptions, I've found FriendFeed to be a lot less noisy than Twitter. That's subjective, though, and always comes back to personal preference. Personally, I'm glad to see people like Jeremiah giving FriendFeed a shot.
- Matt Albiniak
Ahhh thanks Dennis!
- Jeremiah Owyang
Dennis: you have GOT to be kidding! I'm watching both and there's 200x more noise on Twitter. I really wonder what you mean by noise. You should turn off "friend-of-a-friend" here on friendfeed and see if that changes your opinion. But, Jeremiah, there's a lot of people on twitter. techCrunch says that about 2% of its traffic comes from twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I'm just lazy I guess. I get tired of having to continually tweek tools to make them useful. I'm sure you are right but I view Friendfeed similarly to Facebook -- do I really want to get into another fine-tuning exercise? Also, keep in mind that I am only a "c-list" blogger -- given my low volumes of connections via various channels I can afford to use cross-channel filtering as opposed to within-channel filtering. PS _ thanks for following me on Friendfeed anyway!
- dennis d. mcdonald
dennis: I think it's not noise at all, but it's signal. Tim O'Reilly doesn't like friendfeed because he says the comments distract him and he doesn't have time for it. Twitter just lets you broadcast and be done with it. No conversations necessary (and if you try you'll piss everyone off anyway). I think we should be able to hide the comments for users like you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert - nothing I said referred to comments. Comments are good.
- dennis d. mcdonald
dennis: weird, then, I'd love to sit next to you and understand more about what you see as noise. Most of the noise I'm seeing right now is coming from twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Dennis @Jeremiah That should have nothing to do with visiting the blog
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
I agree with Ed Shaz/NextInstinct. Jeremiah, were you blogging before you were Twittering? Maybe you are just talking to much about the hiatus. Maybe you need a thoughtful rest.
- Waynette Tubbs
FriendFeed lacks context, too, but in a different way: http://stefanomaggi.blogspot.com/2009...
- Stefano Maggi
Robert Scoble just followed me on friendfeed, I know he is following everyone but just for that one sec when he was clicking... I bet he thought "Damn this Cody guy looks like he is one interesting mofo!
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Don't let me down!
- Robert Scoble
Let you down??? I will freaking amaze you, just kidding I probably dissappoint but, you never know.
- Cody Heitschmidt
I am laughing at myself right now, not with myself... at myself.
- Cody Heitschmidt
I remember the first time I talked to him on the phone. I bragged about it for a day. "I talked to 'The Robert Scoble' and it was awesome!"
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Jason, I am just as stoked that you commented on my ridiculous thing here as I am that Scoble followed me, no one follow or connection is more important than any other. A year from now you and I may be way bigger than Scoble and saying to ourselves, what was that Robert guy's last name as we sit on our yacht.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Awesome!! Your moment of fame has arrived!! LOL :)
- Susan Beebe
Just kidding I wont ever own a yacht, I am way to cheap
- Cody Heitschmidt
Susan, I think it's Scoble's moment of fame... He has everyone that is subscribed to me thinking of him!!! All 14 or 15 of them
- Cody Heitschmidt
I remember the first time I got an email back from Robert when he was still @ MSFT. Not only did he reply but replied within 4 hours and fowarded my email to the program manager concerned. Blew me away.
- Roberto Bonini
That Robert Scoble guy is overrated...
- Tyler (Chacha)
I am kidding by the way...
- Tyler (Chacha)
Liking this because it is such an awesome post.
- Anika
Cody WOW :D hehehee
- Susan Beebe
Roberto, email me and I will reply in like 35 seconds... lol!! Scoble is pretty cool and unsnobbish for being so "in"
- Cody Heitschmidt
Thats it Cody. He's great. Don't be modest Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
is Roberto Bonini Italian for Robert Scoble? lol!!! jk
- Cody Heitschmidt
@cody we could rent a yacht. it'll be ours for at least an hour. long enough to sip exotic drinks and bask in the sun. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Jason, I am in !! Name time place, we rent the yacht take pics, upload them to friendfeed and bam!!! Instant celebs!!!!
- Cody Heitschmidt
Jason, just went to your feed and saw best failboat ever... thats about like the yacht I could afford to rent, just so you know.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Nope. unfortunately.....
- Roberto Bonini
I just want to say LMAO!
- Jack Humphrey
I just started following you as well. which, means nothing. But I think you're funny. rock on!
- Alan Edgett
I'll follow you too, will you do a post for me aswell?
- Tyler (Chacha)
ChaCha what do you mean a post for you??
- Cody Heitschmidt
As Bud Fox shouted in Wall Street after getting through to Gordon Gecko... 'I've bagged the elephant'
- Richard Filing
Richard, great movie....
- Cody Heitschmidt
If I follow you will you make a post saying "Chacha just followed me on friendfeed, I know he is following some people, but just for that one sec when he was clicking... i bet he thought "Damn this Cody guy looks like he is one interesting mofo!"
- Tyler (Chacha)
Cody, you ARE cool!
- Mona Nomura
Mona, thanks if you are serious, if you are patronizing me, thanks for that too cause sometimes I am just an egotistical bastard and need made fun of.
- Cody Heitschmidt
ChaCha ... No, but if you have interesting content in your feed I might mention it sometime, might not though.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Cody, in your blog you come across as a positive and success-oriented person. If that's your egotism, keep it going.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, I try to be... I come on here to be smart ass but the damn positive and success oriented stuff usually seeps back through. Life is good, and I wish it on everyone else as well.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Avoiding The Uncanny Valley of User Interface - http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...
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Open brief aan dhr. Dorenbosch - Sargasso - http://sargasso.nl/archief...
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"[...] Hierbij retourneer ik de tien weken oude foetus die ik van uw organisatie Schreeuw Om XXXXXXX Leven heb mogen ontvangen. Ik beschouw deze vrucht als ongewenst en ik weet als geen ander waar dat toe kan leiden. Op 1 april 1988 kreeg ik namelijk een soortgelijke pop, terwijl daar op dat moment geen plaats voor was in mijn leven. [...]"
- ˈpɛbə
from Bookmarklet
coffee & hot chocolate blended together with milk and hot water is bloody lovely...
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Frustration - http://xkcd.com/457/
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hah!
- Orli Yakuel
Oh my...frustrating indeed. I lol'd ;)
- David Adam
hehe, ahhh those teenage years, its all flooding back now, two of my greatest tonnage puzzles in one pic
- Patphelan
Hanging out with Google PR team. Got any questions for them?
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ask them what they think of cuil.com LMAO
- Chris Harris
Ask them about the new SEC decision re recognizing Corporate Blogs as "Pubic Disclosure". What impacts will PR see from this? Will Press Releases go to the way side and post directly to the Corp. Blog only? what's their take?
- Susan Beebe
ask when they will buy friendfeed
- Benedikt Koehler
@benedikt or come out with googlefeed
- Chris Harris
Why does Google want to take part in nearly every aspect of my online life? And why dont they realize that I'm starting to think that this is really scary?
- Ton Zijp
ask them why they don't join the email standards project
- anna sauce
What is the biggest PR disaster they have prepared for?
- Andrew Smith
did they do any proactive media outreach in response to cuil or only respond to incoming media questions?
- David Mullen
from twhirl
ask when they will fully integrate Doubleclick ad serving into their basic Google ad manager platform?
- Meghan
from Alert Thingy
why don't Google like the verb to 'google' something? Or is that just a rumour....I'll get me coat
- Toby Graham
yeah will they destroy the soul of Omnisio too?It is a great service&I don't want to get stripped&included in their Docs as PPT
- Roger Kondrat
Who won the F.A. Cup in 1942?
- Bob Kingsley
@Toby If their trademark becomes a 'word' in the human language they basically lose their Trademark status.
- Roger Kondrat
Rob Bushway: Gmail Premium for Busines does this - approx $50 / user
- Susan Beebe
This is the Google PR team. You're not going to get any answers out of them.
- Nathaniel Payne
PR as in public relations or PR as in Page Rank :-)
- Atul Arora
Why did they back out of the Digg deal?
- Josh Haley
Nathaniel Payne has a point. What does the PR team see as its mission in life? (Presumably they won't answer that question with "obfuscation.")
- Ontario Emperor
didn't you just write a blog post on avoiding PR people? :)
- Jeremy Toeman
Bob Kingsley had an excellent question. Turns out it's a trick question, as I found out after goog- I mean searching for the answer.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Ontario Emperor
Transparency is a word that seems foreign to Google. What are they doing to change that?
- Dennis Howlett
from twhirl
Right you are, Ontario. I first heard it embedded in a Monty Python sketch nearly 40 years ago. Can't remember which one now. Hmm ... I wonder if goggling can provide THAT info? :)
- Bob Kingsley
@Jeremy - funny
- anna sauce
Who on earth thought of Knol as a brand? http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Roberto Bonini
who do I need to screw to get top spot(DM me the answer if they think it will hurt the company)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
What the hell is going on with Android?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
THAT! What Aram said. Android.
- Phil Glockner
Ask if it hurts having Randall Stross' head impacted in their colon. hahaha.
- Karim
Whew. Jeremy: the thought of the irony did come out in the meeting.We're all trying to figure out this new world. Dennis: they are really trying to open up and are trying to figure out how to deal with the FriendFeed/Twitter world. press@google.com for Dennis Howlett: they will answer you, I am assured.
- Robert Scoble
@Karim: heh-heh, couldn't resist, could you? :) Ahh - "1949". My bad. Amazing though - proof that I never really need to remember anything any more. Google IS my mind now, and I am just the ghost in the machine.
- Bob Kingsley
Yes, when are they actually going to start doing proper PR: ie, reaching out on product launches + interesting announcement. Second: is Google PR the laziest PR job in the world?
- Duncan Riley
Duncan: I met with nearly everyone in PR. It was about 40 people. That represents hundreds of products and teams. You should write them at press@google.com and build a relationship. You can have my slot on the lawn. I want other stuff from Google like help making my audience smarter. Being on the Techmeme game isn't what I want to do anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: what was the take-aways from your visit with Google's PR folks today?
- Susan Beebe
@Bjorn - unless you've ever actually DONE some PR for a living, I think it's pretty narrowminded to denigrate an entire industry. I've known plenty of engineers who have contributed very little to projects...
- Jeremy Toeman
Oh, Robert, please ask them: Why they position Knol as wiki killer??? I think if it is two or more encyclopaedias it will great. Why they don't live by win-win strategy?? thanks a lot
- obolonskyi
Bjorn: as much as I often am in conflict with PR people, I totally reject your statement here. These people put up with a lot so that those engineers at Google don't have to deal with constantly taking care of press people. In particular, I find that most professional PR people don't spin me at all, they just try to get me in touch with who I want to talk with.
- Robert Scoble
For all designers/type geeks or those who love the industrial age, this video is AMAZING: http://www.vimeo.com/1063458 WOW
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Incredible how far we've come and how we take blogging software like Wordpress for granted
- Melle Gloerich
Facebook Connect Will Be Game-Changing...and Dangerous - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Mitchell Tsai, Rodney Rumford, Dru Kelly and 10 other people liked this
At least you know what you are giving away. Facebook has the potential to sweep the rest of the ID systems away. OpenID is in the worst situation, because it has no killer app exclusive to the system. Yahoo's ID system has MyBlogLog, which looks very much like their bid to get in the webID game, Google has… well, they're Google, and Facebook has the huge mass of people with less tech...
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- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
leuk interview met de jongens van Twitter: http://www.technologyreview.com/video...
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Leuk en goed ge-edit interview inderdaad, geinig om de 'achterkant' van zo'n site eens te zien
- Melle Gloerich
Literacy Debate - Online, R U Really Reading? - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
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Caption: :The Simses of Old Greenwich, Conn., gather to read after dinner. Their means of text delivery is divided by generation."
- Steve Rubel
from Bookmarklet
Informative article, thanks for posting this. Would love to see some studies comparing neuronal activity of book reading to reading on the web. I was glad to see some mention of different forms of literacy - much needed in this sphere of discourse. Based on my own behavior I know most of my time spent on the internet is reading and writing, and since I work remotely that's usually 6-8 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. I can't say if it's affected my offline reading habits, though.
- Adam Bohannon
Oh, what nearly 4 years will get you. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Ilaria K, David Sadigh, Federico Bolsoman and 8 other people liked this
I'm not waiting another three years for the iPhone version of this comparision.
- Roberto Bonini
First tweet from my iPhone
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print it out and put it on the wall
- Allen Stern
Best line heard in Apple Store, from Nick Starr: "the are running on Twitter servers." the credit card approval system is down.
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If they were running on Windows, they wouldn't be down. ;)
- John Denver
Well of course, OS X servers can't handle the load. They should have used Linux.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
actually the credit card machines ARE running Windows.
- Robert Scoble
windows really ????
- Raza
from Alert Thingy
Seems like a mini-Black Friday
- Lois Gray
In Germany everything went smooth, only short waiting (at least at the time I bought mine....) Only they had far too few phones everywhere
- Markus Soelter
Yeah. Windows. That's always been the joke...apple stores running Windows paypoint software.
- Jerry Chacon
from twhirl
Apple store running Windows.. And SJ wants everyone to run Apple!
- Muthu Ramadoss
I agree with Lois. This does not look good for Apple or ATT
- Jerry Chacon
from twhirl
If an Apple service goes down, is it a fail lemming?
- Ontario Emperor
From a buzz perspective, what is interesting is that most of the comments are along the lines of "It sucks that the activation is down, but it won't affect my interest in getting a 3G" Nobody seems to take a negative position other than "I might wait a couple days to get an iPhone"
- David Thomas
@John Denver - haven't you ever looked at their checkout PDAs? They are Windows Mobile devices, so they probably *are* running Windows servers.
- Hillary Hartley
Twitter did raise their API limit. Who knows, maybe Apple is using Twitter. Was anybody asked for their Twitter account details? :D
- Manu Ullas
from twhirl
Maybe twitter raised the API temporarily to handle the IPhone hype? Might check their blog.
- Mo Kargas
round 2 day 3 video: a surpise at five. echte twitter liefde! http://twurl.nl/mjqqam
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In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog - http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
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For its part, Agence France-Presse retracted its four-missile version this morning, saying that the image was “apparently digitally altered” by Iranian state media. The fourth missile “has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test,” the agency said. Later, it published an article quoting several experts. Throughout the day, several news sites have taken steps to disown the photograph that they ran on Wednesday, including LATimes.com and MSNBC.com.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Oh come on - you'd think they would learn that we live in the 21st century by now?
- DAVE ID
Idiots.
- Shawn Farner
We should have caught this on the desk though. It probably got validated in a hurry and wasn't thoroughly checked
- Jon Dillon
Yikes.
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
That's amazing. lol
- justine
I find the enthusiasm of media funny. Media should better direct our country's foreign policy than scoring some brownie points on photoshop disasters. How does it matter if one missile failed. What matters is what we are going to do to stop missile proliferation without using our own missile. Scoring such brownie points are kid's play and not media's.
- Krishnan Subramanian
The Iranians should be writing Photoshop tutorials instead of trying to mimic their missle supply!
- John Barker
busted by the Lizard Army
- Jeff Evans
Great story!
- Daan
Nice catch ya'll. Wag the dog indeed!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... I suck at Photoshop :-(
- AJ Batac :)
Good that AFP caught it. I've been documenting "fauxtography" in the media: theory.isthereason.com/?p=1164
- Kevin Lim
If the photo would have come the Pentagon instead of Iran's Revolutionary Guard the AP would have checked it out.
- Robert Hafer
@Robert you mean the AFP
- Rubin Sfadj
Animated version http://tinyurl.com/6gg57x
- Oldengrey (Jay)
@RobertHafer, the AFP ran the unedited, doctored satellite photos prior to the war in Iraq.
- Prolific Programmer
Looks like one of their missiles didn't fire!
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
"If you suffer from Ballistic Missile Launch Malfunction, then Misalys may be right for you..."
- Live4Emma (L4S)
5 to 1 they used a pirated copy...they need to download a few Photoshop Podcasts for some tips on cloning...better yet, download "You Suck at Photoshop"...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
That is incredibly disturbing; the Photoshop clone tool will prolly be the cause of the button press on the next significant US-involved conflict.
- Clay Newton
Photography can be a powerful tool and terribly politically influential. I watched a photography documentary recently that cited the famous photo of a buddhist monk lighting himself on fire as the tipping point on the Vietnam involvement with President Kennedy.
- Thomas Hawk
My Dad told me that it was when Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" after the Tet Offensive that America changed their tune on the war...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
seems the bbc hasnt noticed. now they are showing footage of the missile launch that matches the AP photo and then also different newspaper front pages which published the photos, some using the AFP and others AP, but no mention of this. interesting.
- Katie Ratcliffe
Let's just drop the old one down the memory tubes to get rid of the double-plus-un-true version.
- Nicholas Molnar
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One of the biggest things I like about Scoble is, through all the noise on here, he somehow still checks out what his subscribers are up to. Almost as soon as I subscribed to him, he subscribes back. Seems like he sees value in people of all sizes, figuratively speaking.
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Yeah, I've noticed the same. I think the rep he gets is largely unfair
- Matt Baron
I think I want to add Louis Gray to that list as well. I've noticed him making the rounds participating in everyone's conversations. He is a new name to me, but I like his level of involvement.
- Adam Helweh
+1 for LG
- Hao Chen
he seems real good-natured and works hard at what he does. can't knock that
- Cee Bee
LG and the Scobelizer are real people. If I ever meet either of them in RL, I'm buying coffee.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Ditto to that. They both seem like cool guys.
- Shawn Farner
Thanks for the props guys. I have met Robert, and he does pay for dinner. And you can find both our cell phones on our blogs. I'm surprised mine isn't abused more often.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, you're right - no doubt.
- Zee.
Ryan: sorry, I love technology, especially when it's done well and I'm going to get excited and rant and rave about it until you all can't put up with me anymore. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Louis: it's time to do another dinner. The house is even baby proofed!
- Robert Scoble
Regardless of whether its technology, the web, or startups....Scoble has been inspiring (however cliche that sounds) to those who want to immerse themselves in what they are passionate about. Scoble, when can I treat you to sushi?
- Adam Helweh
Adam: sushi? You better be careful there. Louis knows I can eat a TON of sushi. :-) I'm always up for sushi, though, although the next month is really crazy.
- Robert Scoble
Ummm... I'm a fairly big dude and my name is "Secret Sushi". Do you think you will beat me? I think not. I will also be at a few places you have on your calendar. Maybe we can connect for a quick meal. Lets invite Louis. Please don't tell me you only eat California rolls. :0)
- Adam Helweh
I think Robert is a sweetheart! I love what he brings to the IT community.
- Daynah
Daynah, love you too! Wow, what a nice thing to say.
- Robert Scoble
I totally agree. I am a nobody and Scoble is subscribed to me. He's one who truly believes in conversing and engaging with the crowd, and is not selective in friendfeeding. I truly learnt a great deal from him. As I see it, some folks are however more concern about maintaining popularity than being truly social..
- Winston Teo
definitely. robert scoble is everyone's best friend. it is soooooo nice compared to all the huge egos out there. I hope last guys dun finish last!!
- ming yeow
I honestly did not expect this conversation to go on for this long. Guess a few people agreed with me.
- Adam Helweh
ming: who said I didn't have a huge ego? I really appreciate the kind words here, though. I needed them when I got home tonight. I want to share them with Corvida and Louis Gray, two people who inspire me.
- Robert Scoble
@secretsushi - with all these oversized egos like 1938media, shel israel, mike arrington, marc canter blah blah blah, it is turning into hollywood. It is just great to have Robert Scoble around!
- ming yeow
Ryan: you got it. That's exactly why I like Louis Gray so much.
- Robert Scoble
@Ryan MF thats called "passion". Discretion goes the way of the wind when your emotions take over. That usually happens when your excited about what your doing. I know that happens often with me. Thats a manifestation of the internal love for what your doing.
- Adam Helweh
@Ryan MF: Not only do I like his attitude, I'm impressed. How on earth could a person be raving about some little technical thingy no-one has heard about yet while commenting on FF and his blog and interviewing some important people in the industry at the same time. I think Scoble is a group of people (clones?) :)
- Melle Gloerich
Melle: we're a mesh! :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: I for one welcom our Scoble-mesh overlord :P
- Melle Gloerich
I'm an "outsider" and definitely NOT on the inside like most of you guys but there's room for both sides of the tech celebrity community...I tend to skew more towards the harder edge of the spectrum, Rev3 - GETV - Giantbombcast - Diggnation - FSJ, etc, not afraid to mix in an F-bomb here and there but sometimes I like the sweet and safe of TWiT - Cali Lewis - BOL - Amber Mac - etc. but no matter if sweet or salty, censorship and "exaggerating the truth" in the name of "being PC" really SUCKS ASS...my .02
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Carlos: I can't quite figure out what you're trying to say there.
- Robert Scoble
@Carlos: I dont really see any difference between those two groups. "Safe" doesnt really have anything to do with it. Neither does being PC. This conversation evolved into an appreciation for people like Scoble who "eat their own dogfood".
- Adam Helweh
He isn't subscribed to me - LOL. That's okay. I still like the guy because he hung around my daughters and talked to them like a human. Robert's a great human and Being Human on the Internet is important.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: I'm subscribed now! Are you going to CES next year again?
- Robert Scoble
Carlos sounds like h's on the harder edge of drugs too. What the heck are you trying to say?? Lol...
- Zee.
Tichy: nothing I do is automated or scripted.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: CES is always the wrong week - last year school started and administrators insisted I couldn't go - this year - I'm crossing my fingers ! It would be Bird's last chance before she starts College
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Absolutely agree - I'm just a home-based Virtual Assistant garnering some success from my Joomla, design and SEO knowledge and a geek who loves playing with all the new toys... When Robert grabbed my FF, I nearly did a spit take...me? <grin> He rocks and I hope to meet him someday.
- Cheryl Allin
is blij met goed nieuws over zijn vader. Hoeft zijn gezicht vier jaar niet in ziekenhuis te laten zien.
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I don't want to see the posts of friends of people I follow on FF. That is a suckweed feature.
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Choose one person whose timeline you don't want to see. Click hide. Then click "See options for hiding other items like this." You'll then see a popup box with a few options, one of which is "Hide stuff from friends of friends." I hope this helps!
- Donna Mugavero
Funny, I think it's the coolest feature. It's how I find news that I would never have known about before. It's also how I find new people to follow, as well.
- Robert Scoble
It's the real NEW thing that FriendFeed brings to the social networking, I think. It's the way I am able to comment on your post!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I agree with Robert. I discovered a whole bunch of people I would have never interacted with otherwise.
- Michelle M
It is cool, if you like it...Sucks, if you don't ... Thats the joy of opting out... Could make opting out a little easier... But thanks for having the option.
- Cody Heitschmidt
If this wasn't a FF feature how would I have learned the word "suckweed" today?
- Dean Terry
Thanks to the "suckweed feature" more people are reading your opinion on it. Since it expands the potential for conversation and can be configured at the user level, I'd say it rocks. For example, I would have never seen this without the "friends" feature. ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
By the way I would have never read this if Scoble Hadn't been subscribed to Frank Roche... Whom I wasn't subscribed to but am now!!!
- Cody Heitschmidt
I agree with both of you, it is annoying because it fills my page with a bunch of useless nonsense, but at the sametime I am finding new "friends". a conundrum for sure.
- Adrienne Van Houten
can I plant suckweed in my backyard?
- Justin Korn
I just wanted to type the word "Suckweed" .... Sorry
- Cody Heitschmidt
Okay, I'm persuaded...and thanks to @msinformation I know how to make it go away, too.
- Frank Roche
at first this feauture bothered me too, bu it makes sense. how often on twitter do you see a conversation one of your friends is having with someone else, but because you don't follow that someone else, you don't know the full extent of the conversation -- but the conversation seems interesting, and you'd like to weigh in if you could. this feature closes that gap.
- Lynne d Johnson
Frank can we get a promise that you will go right now and find something else to officially label as suckweed?? Please???
- Cody Heitschmidt
Hmm. I'm seeing this because I follow Scoble. ;)
- Kevin Porter
It also means that those of us who like and comment on things have a great responsibility. Do it to bad items and we help them spread. I try to choose only things that are adding value. I don't always succeed, but it's something I do think about. "Do I want to waste my friend's time with this?"
- Robert Scoble
It's official, if you do a search for "suckweed" on google now, this conversation is the #5 hit. YEAH for suckweed!!
- Justin Korn
Jason: see the first comment.
- Ken Sheppardson
One of the best features of FF and you don't like it... Strange!
- ※Fu※
how else would I have found your post! I think it's a very cool feature, as long as the people you start following are people who don't let spammers in. If you find that one of friends, make friends of a lot of people you don't like, mebbe you shouldn't be following them in the first place :). I know it is a lot of manual work to weed out entries when you follow Scoble, but hey Scoble is high maintenance :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
seen this post exactly because you're a friend of my friends, anyway :)
- Marco Castellani
i can't stand it either, its one of the reasons i don't follow Scoble on friend feed, he has too many friends. And twrhl ignores the friend of friend setting
- Paul Rj Muller
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