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The Complete Guide to Earphones, Part 4: Our Picks, and Yours | iLounge Article - http://www.ilounge.com/index...
The Complete Guide to Earphones, Part 4: Our Picks, and Yours | iLounge Article
The Complete Guide to Earphones, Part 4: Our Picks, and Yours | iLounge Article
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"We asked our editors three questions: what are your favorite pairs of earphones - not headphones? Why? And if you had to choose just one, which would it be? Our answers are below, and most interesting in that different users with different listening preferences have gravitated to many similar earphones. Of the group, only one editor noted a preference for full-sized headphones, and no one recommended clip-on earphones, lanyard earphones, convertibles, wireless, or hybrid earbud-canalphones. Feel free to add your picks to the comments section at the bottom of the page." - Jim Norris from Bookmarklet
I've been using the Shure E2c's for >4 years now, and absolutely love them. They're leaps and bounds better than anything else I've tried (that didn't cost $$$). They were about $100 when I bought them, but are probably a bit cheaper now. It's slightly irritating to pay $15 for a few pieces of cheap foam, but I've only had to do that once in >4 years, so that's not too bad. - Joel Webber
I dig Shure, too. FTW - Mona Nomura
I'm not very well-versed on headphones -- all of mine in the past have been whatever cheapo set came with whatever portable music device I happened to be using at the time, though I've stayed away from the stock Apple headphones like the plague -- but I use Bose In-Ear headphones at work and love them. - Brian Chang
Etymotic ER-6i. They make flying economy a bit more bearable :) - Tudor Bosman
I am using Etymotic ER-4P since 2007 and happy with them. - ashish
Srsly what's up with their site? It flashed and jumped around for a few seconds and completely froze up. Twice. Is it the ads? - Maxamad
Same here Dhanaan. Remove the hash on the end and it worked fine for me: http://www.ilounge.com/index... - Michael Leggett
I second the Etymotic ER-6i in ear phones. Not the greatest for bass, but accurate and good at blocking ambient noise. - Alex Scoble
Ah, I see. Thanks Michael. - Maxamad
Has anyone listened to the difference between a pair of the ER-4P and ER-6i? Similar technology must drive both, but there is a $100 price gap. I'd be willing to pay the price if the sound was really that much better. - Bill Strathearn
Kevin Fox
Oops! Since my Canon S90 order at Amazon was backordered, I placed one at J&R Music where they claimed it was in stock, planning to cancel Amazon if J&R came through. Today within 10 minutes of each other I got shipment notifications for both. Anyone local want to buy one new in box for cost?
Would Rachel use it? - Benjamin Golub
It wouldn't surprise me if Amazon just gave you pre-paid return label for it if you explain what happened to them. - Ken Sheppardson
Or just refuse shipment on the Amazon one. I did that once. Got a refund in about 2 weeks no problem. But you have to be at home (or have someone at home) ready to refuse the shipment. - Benjamin Golub
Actually I think you can just leave a note saying you refuse the shipment. - Casey Muller
I think if you're not home and they leave an InfoNotice, you can just call in and have them return the item to the shipper. - Ken Sheppardson
Yep. Can even do it through ups.com... "If you have received a UPS InfoNotice after one delivery attempt has been made, you can change your delivery options on ups.com. Your options are ... Return to Sender: Return the shipment to the shipper" -- http://www.ups.com/content... - Ken Sheppardson
Kevin, I do know someone who may be interested. - Cristo
$429.95, Kevin? (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-P...). Or $429.99? (http://www.jr.com/canon...) That .04 difference may be a deal-breaker! - Stephen Mack
Arbitrage opportunity. - Ken Sheppardson
I might want it if no one else has claimed it. Let me know. - Michael Leggett from iPhone
I bid 85% of cost. :-P - Daniel Dulitz
Having just biked all the way to Best Buy, who claimed to have them in stock but did not, I hereby bid cost plus lunch at the establishment of your choice next week. :-) - Trisha
Alex Scoble
Do you think the average person on the street or person in HR knows that there's a difference between an Interaction Designer, User Interface Designer and User Experience Designer?
The average person on the street doesn't know what a user is. - LogEx
No such thing as a User Experience Designer that I've ever met. Except for Steve Jobs. - Chris Greene
You're skirting the question. - Alex Scoble from IM
HR doesn't care as long as you fill out your forms and don't do thing that requires them to do any work. - CW™
I certainly saw those all as various titles for the same sort of job, yes. - Spidra Webster
Not at all. I think that almost anyone not in the design community has little notion of what UI design is. I'm not even sure what UX design is so maybe Alex can explain it to me. - Chris Greene
- and I totally agree with LogEx' opening remark. - Chris Greene
I think there's an extraordinarily small pool of people who could clearly define differences, and 80% of them would not agree with each other. - Glen Campbell, B.A.
After talking about this with you all day, Chris, I still have no idea what each of them does. - Alex Scoble from IM
Well, you aren't in the design community so it doesnt surprise me. (meaning Alex, not Glenn) - Chris Greene
Yes, we've seen evidence of that today, Glenn. - Alex Scoble from IM
you forgot to add in your title Visual Designer, Motion Graphic Designer, Animation Designer, Audio Designer, and Industrial Designer. - Chris Greene
and Haptic Designer. - Chris Greene
In the absence of industry standards, certifications, etc., any differences are subjective. - LogEx
Those are rare for most titles above the basic apprenticeships. - Chris Greene
Don't get all haptic feely with me bro. - Alex Scoble
I still prefer the term "photoshop monkey"...You are really good at flinging the poop. - Alex Scoble from IM
I hate photoshop - Chris Greene
Not I. - anna sauce
And yet you are still so good at using it...odd. - Alex Scoble from IM
Who is good at photoshop? - Chris Greene
You are. - Alex Scoble from IM
Nope. I can't even resize a gif. - Chris Greene
Nope. Don't even know how to open the stupid app. Every time I try it keeps asking me to register and I keep pressing "cancel". - Chris Greene
I also now hate 3D. - Chris Greene
* Chris was just blinded by a lens flare followed with a drop shadow and a bevel / emboss* - Chris Greene
Google does (or used to) call them User Experience Designers. Personally, I see very little difference between the job titles, or at least people's perception of the role in the workplace is affected by the corporate culture far more than the title they happen to use. - Kevin Fox
Oh man. That drives me apeshit. User Experience to me means everything about the product. ID, manuals, packaginig, advertising, OOB, UI, etc. - Chris Greene
The average person on the street should hate any attempts to diminish him/her to the 'user' in the first place, aside of the jargon self-tagging of the professionals. - Cea
I use the term "user persona" and never refer to an individual but a group or archetype that fits a set of marketing and design goals. - Chris Greene
I agree with Kevin - the job titles are basically synonymous. - Rachel Garb
aren't they kinda like Sanitation Engineers? - Bill Whetstone
People who work in these fields don't even know the difference, so I don't expect HR folks to know. - cecily
My first job out of liberry school was as a user experience architect with a large multinational bank. However, my work really only involved research and being a wireframes monkey. I think we're still a while away yet from having actual user experience folks who work hand in hand with product management in corporations, but I see it happening bit by bit. - cecily
I've known some call themselves an interaction designer as a way of getting out of having good visual design skills. UX (or UE) and UI are pretty much the same and I expect at least some visual chops from someone with that title. UX was supposed to suggest we do more than define an interface... We design the entire experience (even thinking about how to make the site faster). But, while... more... - Michael Leggett from iPhone
Working from your definition, Michael, what do you call someone who has design skills, understands how to lead a user through an application intuitively AND has the coding skills to implement it? I think that combo is even rarer... but people in it either get pigeon holed as designers or developers. - Her Lindsay-ness from Android
Lindsay - I would say that combination is rare. I would call them a UI Designer / Developer. Maybe even an architect title. - Chris Greene
I would add that PROFICIENCY and UNDERSTANDING in those disciplines is the rarity. I've had plenty of developers tell me than can do visual design and they just flat out can't. - Chris Greene
Kevin Fox
SO MANY BABIES!!!
who now? a friend of mine tweeted this same thing tonite. - Jenna Bilotta
My cousin and his wife (married two weeks after us) just announced. My nephew was born last February. My friend Georgia had Penny two weeks ago, our best-friend neighbors are due in February, a good friend and coworker and his wife are due on January 1st. Two other cousins had kids in April and May. TOO MANY BABIES!!! - Kevin Fox
+1 on Jan 8. - Michael Leggett from iPhone
Ahem, it is spelled *babby* - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Rachel Garb
According to #fitbit, the cat woke me up 14 times during the night. Still, my "sleep efficiency" was 91%.
91% is good, right? - Stephen Mack
Yeah, but I'm surprised it was so high. I don't think 14 wake-ups during the night = an "A" grade. - Rachel Garb
How do you like fitbit? Does it seem useful / fun? I wish it was also a watch. - Michael Leggett
It's interesting, fun, and somewhat useful, but not indispensible like some other gadgets in my life (e.g. TiVo, CatGenie). I also wish it was a watch. - Rachel Garb
Kevin Fox
In these hard economic times my local Baptist church has offered me a $10 Target gift card if I attend Sunday's services.
Do Baptist churches have an offering during service? If so, that's weird: that's a little too much like a transaction for me. - Mark Trapp
photo. - Rob Schonberger
How odd. - Ayşe E.
A tiny bribe? Geez. - Kamilah Gill
If you could see my face, my left eyebrow has raised WAY beyond my hairline. I get if they're trying help you, but this just strikes me as odd. - Anika
Whaaaaa? Is it for a certain Sunday... maybe for the you-should-tithe sermon? - Michael Leggett
Where are they getting their funding from to give those out? Shouldn't that money go to the needy? - Dario Gomez
I got one of those too! Mine was from North Valley Baptist Church: http://www.nvbc.org/ - Carl Haynes
Do you have to stay the entire time to earn the card? - Stephen Mack
Jenna Bilotta
1 Million Spiders Make Golden Silk for Rare Cloth - http://www.wired.com/wiredsc...
neat! - Jenna Bilotta
these "golden orb' or "banana" spiders are all over the place around here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Chris Heath
Hey... my wife wrote that. :) - Michael Leggett
"Unfortunately, spider silk is extremely hard to mass produce: Unlike silk worms, which are easy to raise in captivity, spiders have a habit of chomping off each other’s heads when housed together." - Tudor Bosman
dannysullivan
old skates, new skates. old wheels size of hubs on new ones. so far, no fall down go boom. knock wood. http://yfrog.com/0jldwbj
old skates, new skates. old wheels size of hubs on new ones. so far, no fall down go boom. knock wood. http://yfrog.com/0jldwbj
Are these speed skates? Or have skates just changed to have bigger wheels? What is it like with the larger wheels? - Michael Leggett
They are designed for speed. It's my first move into something like this. Previously, I really hadn't thought about the size of my wheels. My old skates are 84mm, and I get going pretty fast already on them. The new ones are 110mm. So far, I can't say that they've taken me faster. But I didn't have the right socks on for the first time use, and my feet started hurting, so I really didn't push myself. I'm pretty sure I'll be zooming in them. - dannysullivan
zefrank
new time vid :: diplomacy - http://www.zefrank.com/zesblog...
I'm so glad you're making regular videos again Ze. Insightful, informative, and hella-funny as usual. - Michael Leggett
Kevin Fox
Happy 11th Birthday, Google! http://www.someecards.com/card...
facebook.com/google - Michael Leggett
You should follow the link, Michael. It's not the same one I sent you before. :-) - Kevin Fox
Paul Buchheit
Facebook news feed implemented in Javascript: http://www.streamdiff.com/
It's a pretty cool fb app. - Paul Buchheit
reminds me about friendfeed :) - Chris Hofmann
Wow. I do get that immediate comfortable feeling with it. It's FF minus share and hide plus the miniavatar hack http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah Wittman
Very cool. And so much snappier. Lovin' it already. And Paul, I'm assuming you're going to try to move Facebook in that direction. - Johan Bakken
I love it. Now if only we could use it in Facebook. - Faraz Mullick
Good stuff! I've been using Facebook Lite to get straight to the content I care about without having to sift through gobs of application notifications, but this looks even better. - Roger
Don't see the added value yet, but you can tell their working with Friendfeed is starting to pay off. - Vincent van Wylick
Excellent! A bit of real-time here, a bit of hiding there and now we have the best Facebook client. Congrats! - Andrés David Aparicio
The implementation of read state in kind of confusing. I look forward to more iteration in this space... long overdue. - Michael Leggett
awesome - andy brudtkuhl
Paul: does the BSD-CC license apply to code files in the dev URL? - Andrés David Aparicio
how come that it does not update in realtime ? ah, okay,it's not ff... - Lode Nachtergaele
I'd like it more if I could hide individual posts on a one by one basis like I can on FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk
It also seems like it only went three pages back for me. Would be better to page indefinitely. - Thomas Hawk
To clarify, this isn't something that I or anyone else from FriendFeed created -- it's just a cool app. I don't know anything about the licensing terms. - Paul Buchheit
Our wishful thinking got the best of us, it seems :) - Andrés David Aparicio
I wonder who is behind it, I'll repeat my question in the Fan Page then... - Andrés David Aparicio
it may not be something that FF created, but it's something along the lines of what the FF team ought to consider creating -- maybe as a place to test and experiment with engagement before considering features for broader roll out at Facebook. Creating a FF version of Facebook's news feed, complete with hide functionality, thread bumping, etc. would seem like a far more interesting way to interact with Facebook. - Thomas Hawk
Paul, thanks for sharing it. Andrés, it is indeed BSD-CC licensed and the code is hosted on GitHub: http://github.com/nshah.... - daaku
Excellent! Thanks, Daaku. - Andrés David Aparicio
nice! I never want to goto facebook.com again! - Jay
Jess Lee
Google Takes Sides on the Kanye West Meme - http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_l...
Google Takes Sides on the Kanye West Meme
o.O - Shandiz
must have been for a limited time only, or a hoax... isn't showing for me - saw this elsewhere earlier tonight - Chris Heath
I'm pretty sure this is just a Photoshop mock. There's no way Google would do this for real now. - Jess Lee
Shouldn't the search still show results for Taylor Swift? Lazy Photoshoppers - €€€€€€€€
I'd like to see that, but... hoax? Really funny!! - Roberto Arancibia
LOL, so awesome. :-) - Jason Huebel
Awesome, but clearly not real. Note that the search in the url doesn't match the one in the search box. Still, pretty awesome. - Michael Leggett
I can't reproduce it. but yeah, it would be awesome. - dannysullivan
thx for checking danny ... i didn't think it was 'real' - Chris Heath
Paul Buchheit
Handwriting Tips Penmanship (forget cursive) - http://www.nytimes.com/interac...
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"The Palmer method and subsequent 20th-century methods were based on an ornate style that was difficult to learn and broke down under pressure. The loops and curlicues of Palmer and other similar methods obscure legibility. For good reason, one rarely finds looped cursive in print media or computer fonts. ... But there is hope. We can stop mumbling on the page and become legible writers by turning to a style that existed long before Palmer rendered our world illegible. We can embrace letterforms born in the Italian Renaissance. We can go italic." - Paul Buchheit
That's how I write already! I had to change from Palmer to Italic in high school because I didn't have a typewriter (pre-computer era); our papers had to be typed or handwritten in italic. - Anne Bouey
Nice article. It actually makes me want to grab a piece of that ruled paper to slowly trace out the letters. I find that my handwriting is best when it's all caps. I wonder if I can change that? - Todd Lloyd
I think I might play with this some this weekend. Printable PDF here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images... - Michael Leggett
My mother has beautiful penmanship. I even found a book about it last year and gave it to her. Mine was always ok (Can you tell I went to Catholic school yet?) but it started to go awry when I started having to write in Palm PIlot. - Cathleen Rittereiser
Oddly enough, I've been writing like this for ages. I like joining some letters, but doing so constantly and with loops always seemed strange and ornate. - Joel Webber
The amazing thing to note in this article is how easy it is to read letters when only the top half of the line is visible (and how impossible it is to read when only the bottom half is visible). - Mike Koss
Amit Patel
In Inspector Gadget, James Bond, Pinky and the Brain, etc., the gadgets/plans are different in every episode. But it seems the best strategy is to find the stuff that works best and use it a lot. Sylar actually does that. He has lots of powers but uses a few most of the time. The Brain should iterate instead of scrapping plans with minor flaws.
Wile E. Coyote, are you reading this? - Stephen Mack
The different gadgets/plans makes it more interesting to watch though. - Robert Felty
I agree that it's more interesting to watch. Sylar's boring. But Sylar's actually successful ;) - Amit Patel
@Stephen Awesome comment FTW! - Michael Leggett
I'm so behind on Heroes. - Rebecca Sun
So the lesson I learned from Saturday morning cartoons is that success is boring, and only failure is interesting. :) - Victor Ganata
Happy villains are all alike; every unhappy villain is unhappy in his own way. - Stephen Mack
Michael Leggett
I was thinking about the health care debate this weekend and realized that healthcare is BY FAR the #1 reason I wouldn't want to go back to running my own company. Not earth shattering... but made me feel even more strongly that I don't want to have to worry about health care. I hope real change is possible.
I also don't want to have to worry about my parents health care (both my parents are unemployed and one has no coverage at all). I try not to think about how I'd feel if they got sick and went bankrupt. - Michael Leggett
I'm the same way. I don't want to start a small business because I'd have to deal with health care somehow. - Amit Patel
Isn't that what things like Administaff are for? If you pay enough, you don't have to worry. :) - τorƍue
What does "pay enough" equal? I have a wife and a kid on the way... can I really afford to pay for full health insurance on my own? My mom sure can't find affordable health insurance... but maybe she hasn't looked hard enough? - Michael Leggett
If your startup has more than a few employees, you're eligible for reasonable group plans. We had good health care at FriendFeed. You just need to hire an Ana to make it all happen. - Paul Buchheit
Michael Leggett
Found out we're having a BOY yesterday. Very excited. Clueless as to what we'll name him. Have a suggestion? Go to http://mhl.us/babyname/
'Brent Groovy Zombie Leggett'? - Amit Patel
The name I came up with this weekend: Theodore Rex Leggett. Shortens to both T-rex and Teddy-Rux(pin). Rex might stick as our in-utero nick name. - Michael Leggett
Congrats!! Those in-utero nicknames have a way of sticking around. We started calling our soon-to-be-born son Sam and it stuck. That's officially going to be his name now. - Michael Hocter
I think T-rex would be a pretty awesome name... how can you possibly pick on a kid named T-rex?!? - Michael Leggett
Michael Leggett
Since the FriendFeed crew started at Facebook, my posts don't get likes or comments any more. Is it me? Or did my subscribers leave? Or maybe my posts only got liked / commented on because a FriendFeeder would comment/like exposing my posts to thousands more.
It might be "B". I bet we can try to help if we push you in better lists. Also, there doesn't seem to be too much frequency to the posts, making expectations irregular. I see the last note from Friday, and prior to that, Sept. 1. - Louis Gray
With the filter settings I use, I really only saw SXSW posts from you, and I wasn't interested in those. Sorry! - Amit Patel
I also noticed a huge drop in activity in many of my lists. Less posts, but even less comments and likes. I find very few good discussions every day - before, every item in my Best of list had at least 10 comments, now, some of them have none :( - Jérôme Flipo
I haven't posted much since this post (which was posted on Sept 1). I've never been a super active user, but I'd say that 1 out of ever 4 posts got at least one comment or like which is the whole reason to post (to start and engage in conversations). If my posts aren't getting much traction, than I am less inclined to keep coming back to comment and like on other people's posts. - Michael Leggett
@Louis Thanks for commenting btw. :) - Michael Leggett
@Amit Sorry for all the spam on my SXSW panel. I promise no more... at least not until March! - Michael Leggett
I noticed the same thing, but I also had a shift in focus after the FF crew left. I shifted away from addiction to FF to a business focus. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Followed! Once people know you're on the gmail team and are posting things like real-time updates about gmail bugs and gmail outages, I bet you get a lot more subscribers in short order. And with more subscribers you'll get more interaction here. - Stephen Mack
I just subscribed! I'm suitably impressed, now that Sephen's outed you as a gmail guy - The gmail guy, some might say - although I have a feeling I'm mangling whatever cliche that's supposed to be. But now that you're in my feed I promise to comment on whatever you post. I do find, though, with my own posts, that almost nobody reacts to them. But if I have a particularly pithy or cogent... more... - MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
The bar should be the same no matter where you work. A good idea / post / comment can come from anywhere. :) There should be some way to build up (or lose) credit as a poster and have then some good ranking based on those ratings. - Michael Leggett
Actually I think FF is more than fair, especially when we're all just disembodied voices in the wind. But human nature being what it is, my actual thought (before editing) was that the bar is higher not so much for 'not a Googler' - we're pretty good about that - but for 'fat broad from Missouri' which I censored because fat broad is actually not something I've really broadcast loud and clear before, here. - MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
bob
bob
Pawing at the cursor while watching himself paw at the mouse cursor on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Pawing at the cursor while watching himself paw at the mouse cursor on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
best way to get your LCD screen scratched? - topo
Topo, that's "What is the best way to get your LCD screen scratched?" No $200 for you. :-) - Ladybug Heather
Make sure you watch the 2nd half... awesome - Michael Leggett
My cat does exactly the same thing. :-) And the funny thing is when I move the cursor out of the screen she looks behind the monitor to see where did it go... - Olivia Lovag
Kevin Fox
My Gmail presence indicators are feeling droopy this morning...
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First noticed it last night. - Kevin Fox
ping leggett. :) though I'm sure he knows. - Jenna Bilotta
Wow, that's pretty bizarre. Mine is drooping as well. - Andrew Dobrow
Its fine in Chrome. :P (seriously though... we're on it) - Michael Leggett
What's that about a 3px droop? Only you Kevin! - Chris Myles
Somebody dropped the ball. - Stephen Mack
Leggett: awesome. :-) Stephen: That thud you heard? It wasn't the ball dropping. :-) - Kevin Fox
C'mon, it was a good pun, right? I should have put a smiley or signified it was a pun by phrasing it as "I guess you could say" - Stephen Mack
Michael Leggett
Voting closes TODAY for our talk at #SXSW on how we build and use simple prototypes to design Gmail & Docs http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas...
Lots of other good panels by other Googlers at http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas... - Michael Leggett
Two of my favorites are... - Michael Leggett
1) Design Presentations That Stick - http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas... (by Braden and Jake -- two AWESOME presenters) - Michael Leggett
2) Products vs. Users: Who's Winning? - http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas... (hosted by Chris Wetherell) - Michael Leggett
Thanks! :) - Jenna Bilotta
Tom Stocky
Study finds that people who multitask a lot are actually worse at it than those who do it less - http://news.stanford.edu/news...
Study finds that people who multitask a lot are actually worse at it than those who do it less
"To our absolute shock, we found that in any of the categories of activities that we thought their brain would be better at, that would enable them to manage multiple streams of information at one time, they're actually worse at all of them. So it's a great mystery what's going on. All we can say now is that multitaskers are lousy at multitasking." -- Prof. Clifford Nass (in the story's embedded video) - Tom Stocky from Bookmarklet
"The researchers are still studying whether chronic media multitaskers are born with an inability to concentrate or are damaging their cognitive control by willingly taking in so much at once. But they're convinced the minds of multitaskers are not working as well as they could." - Tom Stocky
I wonder how many people watched the video at the top of this article while they read the article. - Michael Leggett
Michael, LOL. But this can't be new finding, can it? I've read about this conclusion so long ago I can't remember who said it first. David Allen's GTD tackles the multi-tasking weakness and the book is several years old. We are so bombarded with information/gadgets/tools etc. that we are actually slowed down because of them. - Andre P. Siregar
Andre, I've seen past studies that showed that multitasking was inefficient due to switching costs, but this was the first study I've seen that compared heavy multitaskers with light multitaskers. You might think that heavy multitaskers would be more effective at it, but they found that the opposite was actually true. - Tom Stocky
Now its interesting that they don't mention ADD as they seem better at multitasking and actually can thrive in that. - Jonas S Karlsson from Android
Even people with ADD might get bogged down with too many tasks at the same time. Yes they might not have the same attention span as others, but there's still an upper limit on their brain's ability to multitask. - Pandu ● IT Optimizer from email
Kevin Fox
Snow Leopard's new math - http://www.macworld.com/article...
Snow Leopard's new math
Snow Leopard will start counting megs and gigs in 1000x instead of 1024x across the board which, while confusing in many ways, will make peoples hard drives appear to have as much room as they paid for. - Kevin Fox from Bookmarklet
sneaky - alphaxion
Is this how they can claim to save you 7GB of space? - Joe Beda
Joe: no, much of the reclaimed space is from the removal of the PowerPC portion of applications, the removal of all the printer drivers (previously, the default install of OS X installed 4-5 GB of printer drivers, now they're downloaded on-demand), and the optimization and rewrite of some of the core services. - Mark Trapp
It seems disruptive for places where you have file size limits (email attachments, upload limits, etc). - Michael Leggett
Joe: Interestingly this change would make your system folder appear *larger* though sitting in a larger pool. So if you're solely looking at the 'space available' metric before and after, it's probably both. I'll run a test when I upgrade to determine how much is for which reason, though the larger your drive, the larger the illusory gain. - Kevin Fox
That is going to be a mess. 1024x is the accepted standard, and I doubt Apple can push this from below. - Louis Gray
When we were talking about this when it first was discovered (http://friendfeed.com/itafrom...), it didn't seem like it would amount to all that many problems: it's still measured in base 2 (or in an another standard) in the places where it actually matters. Although that's an interesting issue regarding file upload quotas. The difference shouldn't be that big for sizes where quotas are put into place (like 10 or 20MB). - Mark Trapp
So Apple have juist taken the holy grail of computer science and thrown it out the window. Not cool Apple, not cool.1024 IS the standard and Apple should apply to IEEE if it wants to change the standards. - Roberto Bonini
I'm not familiar with the IEEE standard that says file/storage size representation must be in base 2. Do you have a link? It'd be especially odd considering most POSIX compliant commands provide options for displaying things in base 2 or base 10. - Mark Trapp
@Roberto Bonini: Actually, the SI measurement for a Megabyte is 1000^2. "However, due to historical usage in computer-related fields it is still often used to represent 2^20" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Nick Lothian
Sadly, IEEE agrees with them. Google for kibibyte. - Otto from iPhone
The Wikipedia article answered my question: "By the end of 2007, standards and government authorities including IEC, IEEE, EU, and NIST, had addressed this ambiguity by promulgating standards for binary prefixes and requiring the use of megabyte to strictly denote 10002 bytes and mebibyte to denote 10242 bytes." Looks like everyone but Apple is doing it wrong, according to the IEEE. - Mark Trapp
It's also worth noting that hard disk manufactures have been using 1000^2 for a long time now. - Nick Lothian
It's also important to stress how little the representation in Aqua matters for mission-critical work: low-level stuff doesn't use bytesize to represent files (and the stuff that does still uses base 2), and the byte size is still shown next to the abbreviated size. - Mark Trapp
Aren't Kevin and Alex suppose to argue about this? - Cristo
Apple are trying to pretend you have more storage to get those sales in the recession - they would have got sales anyway - either way if they want to push 1000megabytes as the 'new' form Microsoft might as well come out with an ad campagain "Every Windows Customer Go To The AppleStore & Thank Their Staff. They Just Made The Space On Your PC Magically Grow" ;) - Nicholas James
Yay for "new math!" Just like the auto industry! - John Wang
Why stoop to the hdd marketer's level? Make them come to us. Oh well I avoid Apple products mainly due to cost and the attitude, pretty though. - Kacey Green
Nicholas: Apple, and every other company that sells a device with a hard drive, already uses base 10 representation in their marketing. It's safe to say if a user is accessing the Get Info panel, they've already been sold on the hard drive. This just brings the Aqua interface in line with what they already sold the consumer, and apparently brings them into NIST/IEEE compliance. Sheesh, you'd think Apple faked the moon landing with the conspiracy theories flying about. - Mark Trapp
I thought about it some more, bring on the metric, 1024 makes perfect sense, but 1000 is easier to wrap my head around. But what about flash memory? It is measured the way the OSes do. - Kacey Green
It'd be interesting if it measures flash memory in base 2, indicating the change isn't just to start using base 10, but to try to display in all cases what the user expects. If it isn't, it'd probably just work like the representation does now for regular hard drives, but in the opposite direction: plug in a 1GB flash drive, and it shows up as 1.07GB in the Finder. - Mark Trapp
Mark you made me plug in a USB stick, it reports like HDDs 512 printed on device 502 shows in Windows 7 RC, I was reffering to system memory and SSDs (I haven't had any hands on experience with any SSDs though to be sure. - Kacey Green
Kacey: you're running Snow Leopard? Easy way to check is the Activity Monitor application in Utilities. Under the System Memory tab, it reports memory usage based on what the system thinks is there: if it's not a round number anymore, it's reporting it in base 10. For SSDs, I'd imagine they'd be handled the same way as flash drives. - Mark Trapp
No, I don't have any Apple products at home, other than iTunes, QuickTime, and Safari. The SSDs probably but I'm thinking specfically of the ones built by Intel and the memory manufacturers since they think in bits already. - Kacey Green
Ross Miller
Peanut butter sandwich test night one. #PBSTN
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The Lineup: 1. Peanut butter, Bacon 2. Peanut Butter, Jet-Puffed Marshmallow 3. Peanut Butter, Jelly 4. Peanut butter, banana, honey - Ross Miller
Peanut Butter, Banana & Honey wins for me! - Skye Miller
Peanut Butter (Jiff of course), apple jelly, bananas, and apple slices (fuji preferably). Yum. - Michael Leggett
You should include PB and Nutella. You need a big glass of milk for that one :) - Shannon Jiménez
Jeff
seinfeld dissing blackberry and iphones - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I love the iPhone bit at the end :) - Bret Taylor
Is that the hang-up bit? Although it's inaccurate, it's hilarious. - Akiva Moskovitz
Hm. I wonder if I could create an iPhone or Android app that used the accelerometers to imitate the slam-the-phone-down thing. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I wonder if you could write an app that actually worked correctly with the accelerometer. I'm always annoyed with it not responding correctly. - Cristo
Reminds me of Mitch Hedberg's joke about how hard it was to have a fight in a tent b/c you couldn't slam the tent flap at the end. - Michael Leggett
Louis Gray
FriendFeed's introductory video (Sign out to see it) "No longer exists" on Vimeo. Ouch.
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boooo - drew olanoff
Oops. - Seth Blank
$50 million and they'll re-upload it. - Shawn Farner
If there were a :( or a 'sad' or 'don't like' button.. perhaps this is how I would use it... - Holly Rae, FFer
Whoopsie...... - Roberto Bonini
Ouch... We are re-uploading. We didn't touch it - no clue what happened - Bret Taylor
DNL! - AJ Batac
Michael Leggett
Darren and I added more detail about our SXSW panel. But it won't happen if you don't vote for it. Read more at http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas...
From the comments on the panel: Darren and I both use prototypes to sell our teams and the org on anything from small interactions to large shifts in product direction. We will talk about the different ways we make prototypes (including some scrappy techniques involving little coding) and how to use them to influence change. - Michael Leggett
Zee.
If websites were people (YouTube’s is surprisingly accurate) - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
If websites were people (YouTube’s is surprisingly accurate)
Where's Microsoft? - Jesse Stay
stats say that teens dont twit so i guess twitter is a little off. - ugurarcan
Not invited, Jesse. - Louis Gray
jesse, microsoft is facebook's middle name. - Bahriye
Twitter is really pale. Are they saying they never leave the house cause they are too busy tweeting? haha - Shevonne
Where's FriendFeed? - AJ Batac
in Facebook :( - Zee.
OH. Yeah. I forgot. :'( - AJ Batac
how about twitter? seems accurate too:)) where is FF? - Mycaptain
ff is in the right pocket of facebook - Bahriye
I'm convinced some mental asylum somewhere uses YouTube as anger therapy for its most disturbed and sociopathic patients. - Chris Baskind
Expected Twitter to be a marketing social media expert. FF should be a hand puppet with Facebook's hand up its ass. - Rodfather
LOL ROdfather! - WorldofHiglet
WAAAAOOWW, Rodfather! - Joe Silence is not dead
Lol +1 Chris - Zee.
Aww Google looks kind of mean and disapproving : ( - Jess Lee
Google should have been searching something :)) - Turgay Dogan
deviantArt's the only girl? - TonyRetrobot
I would think MySpace would be a teen chick - €€€€€€€€
Twitter should be Miley Cyrus - Alejandro
Twitter should be an adult with gadgets in every pocket. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Or a can of spam, lol - €€€€€€€€
I'm already in love with DeviantArt - Arash Nightwatcher
ah, thanks Daniel - Zee.
The interwebs sure are pale. - cecily
nice Tanath - Zee.
I don't see 4chan. Probably for the best :p - CannonGod
They would probably just have the V for Vendetta mask. - Neal Jansons from IM
@Neal: Epic Fail Guy! :D - CannonGod
While I like the artwork and sentiment, the characters are really accurate. MySpace are moms and kids, Twitter is 30+, ok the YouTube guy looks about right assuming he's a commenter :-) - DaveDelaney.ME
I particularly like Google's. - Hunt from iPhone
and here's digg, reddit, and 4chan http://imgur.com/7mBO6.png - ian kennedy
Now taking bets on how many times 7mBO6.png gets posted here. =) - Andrew C
Cecily, that was my comment as well. Very white and very skinny. - Louis Gray
first time google looks sexy...well, kinda... - Kamamiya
i hear they are making the cartoon for adult swim. spoiler alert: myspace gets killed halfway into the first season. - jack
Funny. - Rick Cogley
Google's wearing a *tie*?? Clearly they haven't hung around engineering much. - Aaron D'Souza
Cool. I want to see the story that inspired the art. - Michael Leggett
that was good 1. - nishu
this is awesome. very good work! - Logan Lindquist
Love the photos. Nice job... - Mitchell Tsai
@Aaron - maybe the artist's conception of Google is about the ad sales, not the engineering. - Andrew C
@Andrew: Wow. In that case, we have some seriously grumpy-looking sales folks. :) - Aaron D'Souza
Paul Buchheit
Is it possible to port my cell# to google voice?
I think this is something they are working towards, but it's not possible yet. That would really seal the deal for google. - Jim Rubenstein
It's in the works according to TechCrunch: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Alex Haar
I don't think so, but you may have a connection over there that could get that done for you :) - Brett Kelly from iPhone
(and I can't wait) - Alex Haar
I don't think so yet. How would that work, since Google Voice forwards to other numbers? Port the well known number to Google Voice, and get a new, unknown number for the cell phone? - Mark Trapp from iPhone
In my case I want to port my # to GV and then point it to my new company phone. - Kevin Fox
not yet, but arrington did it - mjc
@Mark yes - mjc
Ah, that makes sense, Kevin. - Mark Trapp from iPhone
Once they roll out this feature, I will fully embrace GV. - Matt
I wish this feature was included in Google voice beforehand. - ashish
Agreed, I'm waiting for this feature to fully embrace GV. I'm just not willing to give up the cell number I've had for 10 years. I hear that it is a rather complicated process right now that involves multiple faxes between carriers and lots of manual work over multiple days, and until the process is automated (which will take some time) Google won't offer it to the general public. - Evan Parker
I gave up my number that I'd had for a decade. It was totally worth it. Change now and you'll never have to change again. - Jon Wiley
Have been using Google Voice for 3 weeks and it's performed flawlessly. I'm totally blown away by the contact customizations, voicemail transcripts, call screening and everything else this service does so far. They just succeded in providing me with another way to make my life easier. - Mike Elliott from iPhone
It is coming... can't say when... but they are working on it. I got to test the feature with my nearly 10-year-old cell number. Worked like a charm. - Michael Leggett
What if I want to start using GV but I don't feel like giving up my ATT contract? Is it possible to transfer the number to GV and get a new number from ATT that GV forwards to? - Daniel J. Pritchett
I think so, but I believe it is a bit hairy. I did the port when I moved from T-mobile to ATT (for the iPhone). So, I got a new ATT number and moved my T-mobile number separately. Had two working phones / plans for a few days. - Michael Leggett
Number portability is in the works. They aren't enabling it yet due to cell phone contract issues that could arise for users and the like. This is, of course, according to techcrunch - Marissa
TC link was already mentioned upthread. The important point for Paul to note is that it's not available *to the public* but that Arrington was able to get it just by asking. Paul presumably has similar access unless his recent business ventures have put him on a secret Google hit list. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Joshua
Vote for my SXSW panel "Case study: Margaritas or Mexican martini"
I've looked and looked, but I can't find your panel. Help!! http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas... - Michael Leggett
Can I be a panelist? I think I can argue convincingly for the Mexican Martini. - Jon Wiley
Barack Obama
Reality Check: The Benefit for Small Businesses - http://my.barackobama.com/page...
Dear mr. President, You know what happened recent months to Iranian nation! They get tortured, raped, killed in cold blood brutally the world has ever seen. You pretend nothing has happened, you say US won't interfere with Iran's internal affairs! This is not internal affair!!!!! This is human rights issue you say US won't put itself in jeopardy that CIA will be blamed again!!!!!!! CIA... more... - dear_iran
I wonder if anyone in the whitehouse reads these comments. It would be kind of exciting if they did... - Michael Leggett
Well Michael, they do, because i've put my same question on idesk of cnn, you know what happened? ..... they blocked my account!.... the funny thing is that most Americans believe they still live in democracy - dear_iran
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