If you're like me, you're an internet addict so some kind of distracting app (read: Firefox, in my case) is always open. Needless to say, that's not exactly conducive to productivity. This tiny app allows you to banish any program to the system tray where you're less likely to click on it and can't Alt-Tab through it. It's helped me a LOT in the past couple weeks :)
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Yeah Firefox + FF + Newsfox = nothing gets done. RBTray makes them disappear for a while :)
- LANjackal
It's also really nice for clearing space on the taskbar without having to close an app that you might wanna dial up quickly, and works with DownThemAll! so you can always have the download manager open but minimized :)
- LANjackal
DM2 provides several Windows enhancements that may help in every-day work. One of the nicest and most popular features of DM2 is minimizing windows to floating icons® (unique feature!) freeing both task bar and tray bar space. Moreover, DM2 can manipulate windows in various ways: minimize to tray, make them standing always on-top over all other windows, roll to caption, resize, align to...
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- Vital
@Vital: that project's practically dead. Hasn't been updated since 2007 and hasn't been tested on anything beyond XP. Not good.
- LANjackal
@lanjackal i use it on xp, vista and windows 7, everything is okey.
- Vital
Confirming that RBtray works on Windows 7 too :)
- LANjackal
You have posterous / tumblr / twitter / facebook / flickr / youtube etc... do u still need a self-hosted blog powered by wordpress? what do u do with yourname.com ? make it a landing page ? any idea ?
My feeling is that yourname.com is the best thing to always have. You can make it a landing page, host your blog, put widgets of your other spaces, whatever. Things like blog, posterous, etc can be on subdomains. If your main place on the internet is branded and owned by someone else, you are at their mercy and at risk of changes you may not like.
- LogEx
@LogEx: I want to keep the domain. but not sure what to do with it.. lol
- Nilesh
@Matt let us know if u discover any idea...
- Nilesh
I like @LogEx idea of making kind of a jumping point. but with everything else out there - i'm not sure you necessarily need a blog -- especially with things like utterli which is a great place to rant and cross post.
- Matt Ellsworth
My internet utopia is where we don't have proprietary social networks anymore, we have people with their own domains with widgets for federated social networking protocols. It's your home page, also your landing page so others can see how to interact with you, and it may look different to each person who arrives depending on what permissions you have given them within your services.
- LogEx
I've been playing with Posterous since they launched, but was waiting to dive in until they had themes. Now that you can customize the look, I think I'm going to change KenSheppardson.com to a landing page, then use a Posterous blog at kshep.net as a hub to push stuff out to other sites. I'm starting to think of yourname.com in terms of "If I had a business card made up with only my name and this link on it, what would I want on the site"
- Ken Sheppardson
"From Google to youtube, from craigslist to flickr - how some of today's biggest sites looked back in the early days of their existence."
- barbarars
from Bookmarklet
"20 years ago people invented things like Twitter and Facebook and Myspace." -- Actually, that's kind of true, because they invented AOL, CompuServe, and Prodigy.
- Cristo
"I'm a Republican so I'm not allowed to see it." *sighs* I just love that the kid used the word allowed, since that is exactly what it is. because ignorance and blind following has worked so so well through history. I mean we all know that intelligent discussion, debate and general patriotism fail all the time.
- Rachel Lea Fox
I want to invent something soon that kids will think was invented 20 years ago.
- Cristo
like totaly great...ahm like really.
- Chris Hofmann
This reminds me of something I thought Paul wrote up as a blog post, but I can't find. That question is "what if you could change not just the way things are, but the way they have always been?" Apparently the internet is really doing that, if people who can't remember the times before exagerate how long it has been true.
- Clare Dibble
After thinking about this and rereading a bunch of Paul's blog, I'm pretty sure that how and why we travel is going to look very different in 20 years. Not in the flying car sense but in the commuting and being together sense.
- Clare Dibble
From that post of Paul's: "As you consider this, you may begin to sense gaps in your reality. If certainty is gone, then nothing is definitely impossible." One thing I find interesting is that the more education I have gotten, the less certain I am about anything. In graduate school, you finally learn that many of the fundamental concepts of science that you learn as fact in high school and college are actually highly disputed. An example from linguistics: "how do you define what a word is?"
- Robert Felty
Some things become more uncertain, but in other areas, your confidence becomes strengthened, e.g. some branches of mathematics and their applications. I'd say it's impossible to compress all possible strings in a given axiom system, or crack a one-time-pad used correctly. I've also become more and more "certain" as I get older than I'm an agnostic leaning atheist. :)
- Ray Cromwell
I am going to install this _right_now_. :)
- Louis Gray
until bit.ly goes down - I like adjix better for that reason
- Jesse Stay
Even if it does go down, it's non-blocking, so my site will still load. I like that
- Benjamin Golub
Yeah - not knocking it at all. It's better than the other options, IMO.
- Jesse Stay
I just saw this is my reader! My Japanese friend blogged about it -weird!
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
Benjamin, thanks for the tip. It is now live on louisgray.com and Blogger is updating all old pages. It counts clicks and not individual retweets, so the #'s are much higher, and take getting used to.
- Louis Gray
Higher numbers != bad thing. Although what if people aren't retweeting via the button itself?
- Jesse Stay
It doesn't matter, Jesse. It is tracking URL references (via bit.ly I presume). But if they do click the button, now it says "via @louisgray" rather than @tweetmeme, which is what I had.
- Louis Gray
Like Jesse said, the dual ajix-S3-CNAME at my domain is a great combo. I set myself up after learning of it on Dave's post.
- Micah Wittman
I remember reading John's retweet blog post too - good stuff.
- Micah Wittman
Installing now. Thank you John Resig! Thanks for jQuery too. Everyone should follow @jeresig
- (Garin Kilpatrick)
In case you missed it, Friendfeed now has an SMS Service (courtesy of http://friendfeed.com/alpb) Try it now: - http://ffsms.com/ . Only works in the US at the moment... (and Turkey)
a wavelet provides access control. It provides a branch where participants can be different from another branch.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
a wave, itself, can also have participants: which implies they can see/control all the wavelets
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I've written a bot that creates a post on FF for every blip... but it's not feasible. The alternative is to create a comment for every blip .. and thereby lose all formatting/photos.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Hmm, I should flesh out the FF side of it. An FF Post can have participants. A Comment has an author.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
From the Wave docs: "Waves are hosted live conversations between multiple participants". Excellent definition.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Now if only I could get a login for Wave!
- Rick Cogley
Rick, you will if you have applied for it ! Surprisingly, many people haven't.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
from IM
I'll need to update this mind-map further. Will post an updated one later.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I've applied, but it looks like I'm waiting for the September invitations.
- JR Holmes
from iPod
I think anyone working in tech - not just programmers - can get access to the sandbox. You just have to pitch them a good reason :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
You forgot that on Friendfeed, a post also has addressees. Addressing specific people on FriendFeed also allows for access control, since the post/thread/conversation will be private. If you post something to a private group (and not your home feed), the whole group will have access (and not the public).
- Meryn Stol
It's a pity FF doesn't allow me to edit/reattach inline images ;)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Sounds too complicated to start a new technology off with. They need to start more simple.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the map is from a technical perspective .. visually, you'd just see a threaded conversation with (optionally) private sections. It is interesting, however, how much FF has achieved with a relatively simple model. Maybe their success is _because_ it was simple ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Yeah, the friendfeed side of this mindmap is very simplified right now. I really think Google Wave will run into some mainstream challenges for what I've read so far (don't have wave account yet). However, aren't you really just displaying the threaded feature of a Wavelet? That would just be the ability to comment to a comment in FriendFeed.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
manielse, yes. The major difference between the two is threading.. except in Wave, a comment is equal to a post itself (with photos, rich text, etc, multiple participants). Hence the recursive nature of the tree. A comment (blip) can have a reply, which can have a reply in turn.. and so on)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
But these are features that some of the FF users have wanted, to reply back to a comment and also with a richer content such as a diagram that explains the topic better.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Ahsan, I know how it looks visually - I'm on the dev sandbox. I still say it's too complicated for an initial launch. They need to start simple, the Google way.
- Jesse Stay
Google Wave is all about potential. In a sense, it's like handing someone a copy of Visual Studio or Eclipse and saying, 'Okay, now go build what you want!' The majority of people will say, 'Uh... what?'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, agreed. That's why they haven't released it to the public yet.
- Jesse Stay
Interesting comment, Joelle. I wonder if Microsoft will branch off from the Wave server protocol at some point, like they did with XML, and do their own thing. :) Interesting times, ahead.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan -- what a great post! Pure gold. (And I happen to think that Google Wave is the wave (oops) of the future. But I need to get hands on with it for a few days to be sure.
- Sean McBride
Glad you liked it, Sean. Be sure to view the updated version (see the link I've edited into the original post).
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I didnt have a precise enough project to make it into the closed access, apart from having written time and time again that what we should have and want was an open standard, distributed system matching nearly word for word the wave press release... (although the reality will probably be different). AM more interested in what can be done on a node basis than writing bots.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
A key question in my mind: will Google Wave feel more cluttered than Friendfeed? The beauty of Friendfeed is the simplicity of the look and feel. Will more power features reduce the impression of simplicity and clarity?
- Sean McBride
You really can't compare FriendFeed and GoogleWave, they're both completely different things. Google Wave is a set of technologies that I feel will contribute heavily to the next generation of social networking tools, however it will not replace them. http://jaredquinn.info/article...
- Jared Quinn
To answer Sean's question, the interface itself looks pretty, but inside the wave it can be difficult to manage: I don't like some of the keyboard shortcuts; the threading in a live chat becomes confusing. While the windowing is slick, you feel like you need more space (at least on my monitor). They need to work on the UI (see Jesse's points above).
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It's nearly certain that people and companies will come up with different client "front end" apps which are slicker to use, focused on using wave for a specific purpose - live chat/discussion, document management, information sharing, location enabled services, archive access, tech support, games...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"the threading in a live chat becomes confusing" (I wondered about that from the first moment I saw a Google Wave demo -- it looked busy and noisy...)
- Sean McBride
We strip the threading out then, sean..... non threaded real time conversations work perfectly well here on FF.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto -- I need to actually use Google Wave in threadless mode to compare it to Friendfeed. Can't wait....
- Sean McBride
"Bora-Bora is a dream landscape just 160 miles northwest of Tahiti. L.A. Times photographer Bob Chamberlin caught both sides of this island where ultra-luxurious hotels have sprouted in the past few years -- all designed to lure the world's most affluent travelers to this fabled South Pacific island."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
"I've been perfecting a very specific efficiency aspect of my workflow: taking notes during Skype calls. I use a Skype-in number as my primary phone number, and -- with permission -- record client calls for future reference. I can't tell you how many times this has come in handy. On long calls, though, going back and finding a specific point where something was mentioned can be a time-consuming hassle. What I wanted was the ability to record a Skype call while taking notes, and to then be able to reference my (abbreviated) notes back to the exact point where they were taken in the conversation."
- Arnaldo M Pereira
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Google Reader just released a couple of new features. One of them is the 'Send to' addition. Evernote is not among the default set of services available. But you can add other services yourself. I've added a mailto Evernote command. It looks like this: mailto:[your-private-evernote-mail]@m.evernote.com?subject=${title}&body=${source}%0A%0A${url}...
Nice idea Peter. I was just sat here wondering how I could use it to integrate Evernote, Instapaper and Diigo. I'll give this a go, cheers!
- Greg Gannicott
@greg I'm not sure you can read 'the rest' of the item. I'll paste here what is following the command. mailto:[your-private-evernote-mail]@m.evernote.com?subject=${title}&body=${source}%0A%0A${url} This will create an email to my Evernote inbox, where the title of the post becomes the subject and the body of the message contains the source and URL. Now I am not very technical ... so will someone come up with a more workable 'Send to Evernote' setup?
- Peter van Teeseling
It's a good start. Personally I don't use Evernote as a 'to read' client (I use Instapaper for that) but I will email notes containing URLs as a reminder of things to do or ideas. This works well with that in mind. I do intend to see what can be done with this new Google Reader share item. If I do think of anything new I'll post it here.
- Greg Gannicott
@greg. I also don't use Evernote as a 'to read' client, but I do save interesting articles (the full story) in Evernote as research material. This 'Send to' option does not include the full article. Guess it won't become as useful as it could be.
- Peter van Teeseling
from IM
Thanks for posting this. Tried it and works like a charm. Just wish there was a way to include the article content in the body of the email, rather than only the title and URL, but a bit to ask for at this early stage I suppose.
- Michael Capehart
@Michael Though I haven't tried it with mailto: URLs or Evernote, we do support a ${body} placeholder in the URL template that you can use to get the full article.
- Mihai Parparita
If the ${body} tag doesn't work with regards to a mailto: URL it might be worth taking a look at the web2mail service (http://www.labnol.org/interne...) mentioned in item #2 of the article Peter posted above me. If I get the chance I might have a play around with it.
- Greg Gannicott
Yes, "send to Diigo set up" would be great.
- Bryan R. Adams
Congrats to Paul, Bret, and the whole FriendFeed gang. But I hope you bring a big shot of openness into the Facebook ecosystem, because it doesn't feel that way right now.
NO Congrats or whatsoever "to Paul, Bret, and the whole FriendFeed gang. But I hope you bring a big shot of openness into the Facebook ecosystem, because it doesn't feel that way right now." Matt, dear! You Stole My Words! ROFL :)))) Just curious - is there anything more important than money? It seems NOT ROFLMAO
- Lora Lufark
Besides being closed, Facebook has never adequately addressed serious privacy issues in its past. I strongly distrust them as a company and I'm sad to hear that they're gobbling up a service and a group of people I do trust. But if both services end up being elevated to FriendFeed's high standard then this will be a great day in hindsight.
- Doug Beeferman
Well put doug, I feel same way: I trust FF, I dont trust FB. I'm skeptical this acquisition will change FB enough for me to trust it, but we'll see.
- Evan Parker
from Android
Has anyone got an idea for a friendfeed alternative?
- Ru Viljoen
Ru, I think Hellotxt.com might be a decent alternative to Friendfeed (it can also post to Friendfeed for you so you can keep your feed if you wish). I may start using it instead. Not sure. There's also identi.ca which claims to be adding more features for cross-posting. They use the Opensource Laconi.ca platform
- PurpleZoe
thx for suggestions but looks like those are both exclusively microblogging platforms.
- Ru Viljoen
no congrats, but I agree with the rest.
- Kamilah Gill
Identi.ca is mostly a microblog (I hear cross-posting networks should be enabled soon), but Hellotxt.com is a lifestream (you can cross-post and etc across networks) I believe. Unfortunately it's slow at times. I'll miss Friendfeed if it gets sucked into the Facebook network, instead of remaining a stand-alone app. Not at all happy about the acquisition.
- PurpleZoe
3 other possibilities: lifestream.fm, Socialthing.com and possibly Streamy.com
- PurpleZoe
Now might be a good time for socialthing to exit private beta and enter public
- Ru Viljoen
I agree that retweeting and "favoriting" per se are redundant, and think your workaround is kinda cool, but I think a lot of people (like me) use the favorite function more as a flag for later kind of thing. Maybe favoriting should just be repurposed? Twitter could finally embrace the retweet on their web site and rename "Favorite" to a simple "Starred" (whatever one then wants that to mean).
- Grey Drane
I use the twitter "Favorites" function as a quasi bookmarking tool (very handy). I see re-tweeting more as a "re-publishing" function. Maybe it's just a naming issue?
- Martin
I use favouriting when I'm on my iPod touch or school computer and I want to save a link to visit later. Retweeting is for sharing a tweet with others
- Bryce Roney
from iPod
I guess for me, I can't see why you would want to save a link but not retweet it...but hey, each to their own
- Zee.
I used to do it for sites that were hard to read on the iPhone, but now SimplyTweet and its landscape-aware browser (and Instapaper support) eliminate that need. Now I just do it for multimedia content that doesn't work on the iPhone (like Flash content) or for the odd really interesting tweet that I'll need time to ponder.
- Grey Drane
from IM
U can always retweet 2 different sets of audiences on Twitter or favorite 4 your own use 4 future reference.
- polou/indigo_bow
Nah, favorites are for me, I can retweet them later or share them using Google Reader. Retweet is more immediate, especially when you are retweeting emergencies or time sensitive information.
- Gabriel
The only time I *ever* favorite anything on Twitter is when I see a link to something interesting, while accessing Twitter on my iPhone, that I want to read later when I'm on my netbook/laptop/desktop. I don't use it to indicate a feeling about the tweet one way or another.
- Joey Gibson
I also use Retweets and Favorites as completely different tools. RTs are for tweets I find worthy of reposting to my followers, while I use Favorites as a poor man's bookmark-for-later system, specially while using Twitter on my iPhone. When I have time, and am back on my desktop, I go through my Favorites -deselecting them after I check them out. If I find one of them is worth retweeting, I'll do so too.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I with the favorite mark as a save for later crowd, like when there is a link that looks interesting but I don't have the time to look at it now. I use retweet to send out a message I see to everyone
- Kim Landwehr
I use "Favorites" as a way to bookmark items I want to come back to later.
- Steve Sill
I'm with Steve, Favorites are my way of bookmarking and just keeping track of tweets that I never want to forget or see gone from Twitter search at some point in the near future.
- Corvida
I agree with commenters that say RTs are for everyone but favorites are just for me. I don't use it just for URL bookmarking, though. I use the Save to Instapaper feature of my mobile twitter client (Gravity) to read URLs later.
- dthree
some reasons might include consideration for others, noise pollution or the simple fact that it merely amuses you or likely applies to only your own interests. They're completely different animals. Retweets AREN'T just links, Temple Stark Phoenix, AZ http://templestark.comhttp://twitter.com/templestarkhttp://desicritics.org - "I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing."
- Temple Stark
from email
I have to admit I don't favor many Tweets unless it's something that interest me. I would like to see a retweet function on the site since it's in evert Twitter client except Twitter itself
- Outsanity
You can very easily get the RSS feed for an entire folder within your GoogleReader. I have a room full of these made from people's bundles: I brought the bundle into GReader, and then made the folder public in google reader, and then grabbed the RSS feed from that linked page. http://friendfeed.com/guruvy-... You could also just do the bundle RSS feed too.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Chrstine, I've found the feeds from Google Reader subscriptions don't turn out too nice in FF. So I've manually added my favourite feeds I have in GReader using the original RSS link. It took a while but the results are far better.
- Kol Tregaskes
I try to use Custom RSS/Atom to add it to my group and I get an error. I have no problem importing this feed into NetNewsWire.
- Christine Dattilo
Being that there are about 70 feeds - can I somehow get an OPML file into FF?
- Christine Dattilo
Koi - I’ll try that, feedbuster. Thanks and I’ll let you know if it works for me.
- Christine Dattilo
Christine, is that shared items (i.e items you've selected to share) or just a feed in GReader? If the former how about adding GReader as a service in the group?
- Kol Tregaskes
Christine, yes you can export all your feeds for you GReader account. Select Manage Subscriptions (bottom left of the screen) and then Import/Export.
- Kol Tregaskes
It is just a “Public” feed in Greader. I want to import it into FF as RSS
- Christine Dattilo
I didn't really see the trouble with this method - did you check out the room that I have up? Those are just from the Atom Feed link like on the page you sent us to, Christine. If you want them prettier, you can add that link as the feed link in something like this (which I use to import my blog) - So try this link for your GReader stuff out:...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If you just copy the above feed-buster link and add it as a Custom RSS/ATOM in your services Christine you should have what you want. I like to import mine like this with descriptions as comments.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob - YEAH! It worked. I tried so many ways. This is what I did, and I don’t know why it finally worked. I clicked the feed-buster link you made, then let it go to NetNewsWire (feedreader). Asked for the Feed URL and copied it into Custom RSS/Atom. When I copied directly it would not work.
- Christine Dattilo
Nor would the feed validate. But when I had NetNewsWire create a Feed URL from the link you gave me - it validated and FF accepted it. Thanks so much for taking the time to convert my feed. I love FF! and you:)
- Christine Dattilo
Sending subscriber love his way. The ingenuity here on FF is amazing. Thanks again.
- Christine Dattilo
thanks Christine and Rob. feeling the love :). let me know if the feed-buster service isn't working out for you or you need any other help with importing stuff into FF. btw, i'm working on a new service that will enable automatic importing of OPML-listed feeds into FF. :) any wishes or suggestions regarding this new service?
- Ivan Zuzak
Ivan - cool do you anticipate the feeds within opml to be concatinated or will they maintain their individual streams?
- mike "glemak" dunn
thanks mike! i'm going for maintaining their individual streams. the probable solution will be to create a new (private) FF group for the feeds, and then import them one by one, each as a Custom RSS/ATOM feed service. as you suggest, another solution would be to use a service like Jumbra (http://www.jumbra.com/) to merge all the feeds into a single feed and the do the import only once....
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- Ivan Zuzak
ivan - agreed i think the first solution would be best and awesome - following now so i can track your progress - no pressure though :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Ivan, ever complete the OPML import? I've sniffed around a bit & believe it might not currenlty be possible w/ FF APIs, due to lack of an API to create imaginary friends... true, or is that old info?
- Wade Dorrell
Hi Wade! Unfortunately not, but it's on the top of my TODO list. :) In the meantime, you can check out a Yahoo Pipe which Lucio (http://friendfeed.com/cantorjf) made - http://friendfeed.com/friendf.... His Pipe combines all the feeds in the OPML file into a single feed which you can then import into FF more easily. Yeah, I know, it's...
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- Ivan Zuzak
Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Guess I might as well delete that overpriced twitter app I bought last week.
- Shea
from iPhone
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
I underwent the same situation, Robert - I unfollowed almost everybody on Twitter who duplicated their accounts here on FrF. I got a tempest of fury for this action. web3 is too personal still ))
- massagin
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan Koizumi
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
I've long thought the entire Twitter "etiquette" of always following who follows you to be a bit of a folly. I'm following 114 at the moment, and the stream still moves too fast for me to keep up with.
- Darren Landrum
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard van Schip
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice summary Robert on the whole Unfollow thing, but would it be too repetitive if I re-post on my FF?
- Keith Rowland
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
my feelings were hurt that you unsubscribed to me on twitter, but i agree with your methods
- Brian Appleby
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
really doesn't matter as long as i can follow you, that's the beauty of these services
- Brian Appleby
How did you come to follow so many to begin with? I get annoyed with ppl and unfollowing is easier than sifting through their garbage constantly.
- R1CC1
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
My birthday is also January 18th, therefore you must follow me Robert! ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Anderson
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul The Raven
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
Robert, I think that the biggest thing that changed is not that you were "wrong" (to follow everyone) before but that the Twitter population has changed so much. A year ago, pretty much everyone on Twitter was real, and interesting - now there's so much automated gaming the system going on that the signal to noise ratio has gotten unbearable. So I think anyone who cares about more than...
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- Matthew Blaisdell
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
All right, I'll bite :) - although I'll say that I did the mass-unfollow-thing months ago - long before it was cool.
- Justin
from Nambu
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh, Life Coach
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
I would come up w/ a better vetting process.
- Joe
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
The Scoble Pendulum.. How long till we go back to FOLLOW!! FOLLOW!!! FOLLOW!!!! ? :)
- Adrian Scicluna
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I like Robert. He was one of the first people I followed on Twitter and brought me to FF. But I don't understand why people are desperate to have him follow them. Status? Some kind of virtual autograph?
- Tech Introvert
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- @katebuckjr
I only follow a few people and keep losing track so lord only knows how you managed to even begin to keep track of a conversation before friendfeed came along
- Iain
from BuddyFeed
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
I use to want to be Bob Dylan. Now I am not so sure.
- ZuDfunck
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Great ideas. I've been selective (though it fluctuates) about following people/accounts on Twitter since I joined about 2 years ago. I can't take too much noise.
- Joe Lance
from twhirl
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Be sure to come by Dallas when you swing through Texas!
- Zaneology
from Nambu
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Anderson
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
If you are already following me on ff does that mean I get a cookie or something? ;-)
- Tomy Thomson
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
To stave off being unfollowed we need to comment here ya say?
- Jason
you are already following me here... perhaps you'll consider re-following me on twitter too
- t i n y m
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
"YouTube, which already boasts of being “the biggest news platform in the world,” has created a News Near You feature that senses a user’s location and serves up a list of relevant videos. In time, it could essentially engineer a local newscast on the fly. It is already distributing hometown video from dozens of sources, and it wants to add thousands more. YouTube says it is helping TV stations and its other partners by creating a new — but so far not fiscally significant — source of revenue."
- Brad Williamson
from Bookmarklet
Thanks for sharing this, does this mean the local television stations will now feed directly to youtube?
- TrafficBug
It looks like local stations will be forced to if they want their brand to remain in the minds of their audience. It won't be a very profitable venture, but they'll have to own the perspective that HOPEFULLY the digital exposure will drive people back to the TV broadcast. Personally, I'd be worried if I worked for a local television news team.
- Brad Williamson
-I’ve put together a web app at http://www.ironicsans.com/gv that generates bookmarklets for anyone you want to call with Google Voice, allowing you to organize your contacts as Safari bookmarks. You can arrange them in folders, and then dialing from your bookmarks is as simple as dialing from your normal Contacts app: just tap to dial!
- Tate DA FF MVP
from Bookmarklet
Oh SNAP: "Apple's decision to reject Google Voice apps for the iPhone -- possibly at AT&T's request -- has prompted an FCC investigation into the anti-competitive nature of the move. The US government agency on Friday sent letters to Apple, AT&T and Google asking them to explain their roles in both rejecting Google's own app as well as pulling at least two third-party apps that were already available."
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
Anyone remember a couple of years ago when Eric Schmidt was telling the FCC that we need some kind of openness guarantees on spectrum? Do you now see why it matters?
- Joel Webber
Kurt, it's so hard because unlike deciding to shop at a different grocery store or boycott grapes, deciding to switch carriers to 'send a message' is more permanent. I'd probably get locked in to a 1 or 2 year contract with another carrier, so even if my message worked and Apple and AT&T got better they still wouldn't regain my business for several years, if at all.
- Kevin Fox
It's unlikely Apple or AT&T would be affected by existing customers leaving: they've already paid a good portion of their contract money already, and they are more than made up for in new sales. Bad press, that which would give new customers pause before buying, would be more effective. An FCC investigation, you telling everyone you know how much AT&T and Apple sucks, and news coverage are more likely to effect change than voting with your wallet.
- Mark Trapp
@ kurtstarnes: Yeah, I prefer the market sort it out, too, but my love of how seamlessly my Mac and iPhone work together makes me wonder how long I'm going to continue putting up with Jobs' bully tactics. >
- Mark Novak
from email
We on the Google Voice team have been very surprised (to say the least) by how all this has panned out.
- Chris Prince
from iPod
I assume someone at the FCC wants to use GV on his/her iPhone?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
What's great about the "seamless" interface, vs. a phone that just self-maintains itself? I guess it's the ability to buy music on a large screen, and have it synced to the device? The few times I've had to use iTunes I have found the sync process a bit annoying, but I clearly haven't fully soaked in the awesomeness.
- ⓞnor
My 'snap' wasn't about breaking the camel's back. I'm just happy that someone in a position of authority is taking Apple to task for their seemingly arbitrary and unhelpful approval process. I care less than most whether GV applications are approved for the iPhone and I actually think it's Apple's prerogative to choose which applications are accepted, but their rules need to be clearly...
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- Kevin Fox
Personally this has 2 ugly aspects: retrospectively rejecting apps from the app store and what it could mean for apps like Spotify which clearly compete with one of apple's profit centers.
- Adewale Oshineye
"John Doe, who changed his name from Jang Do when he was still fuzzy on American vernacular, has no regrets." - NYTimes.com - http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
"After he came to America from Korea more than three decades ago, Jang Do wanted what many immigrants have always wanted: to fit in. So he decided to Americanize his name. But at age 11, still fuzzy on the vernacular, he took an interesting tack. First he turned “Jang” into “John.” Then, he talked his family into adding an “e” to their last name. He was concerned, he said, about razzing and wanted to make sure it would be pronounced like the “do” in “tae kwan do” and not the “do” in “hairdo.” He has been John Doe ever since."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
"Airport security grills him every time he flies. “I have to sit in the office,” he said. “Every time.” Landlords and election inspectors view him quizzically, and prospective dates need more than a little assurance that he’s not hiding a dark past. “I say my name is John Doe and they say, ‘No, what’s your real name?’ and I pull out my ID,” he said."
- Dan Hsiao
Hopefully his middle initial isn't 'Q'.
- Kevin Fox
If I where him, I'm changed it again just to stop the confusion.
- Matt Ruiz
I've read about a guy who had custom license plate NV and was fighting lots of parking tickets he received in mail for strangers' illegally parked cars. Don't remember why he liked NV — probably that was his initials. Turned out cops write NV in their reports when the "number is not visible".
- earlyadopter
"‘How to breath properly while running’ is one of the most searched for topics here at Complete Running. This article contains tips and video to show you the correct way to breathe while running."
- Nilesh
from Bookmarklet
If it is I would be very shocked. But many of the same San Francisco "cool kids" who got me into Twitter are using Four Square.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Mike: I agree with you. Everytime I try to check in it reminds me I am not in an official place.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I've been trying to check in to Foursquare for the past two hours and it's not working. That's a huge aversion to making me want to use the app.
- Derrick
I love Foursquare. Sometimes it's slow on 3G, but they can fix those problems.
- Eric Florenzano
Mike: I totally agree. I would accept it only if most of my friends were using it and it is has been adopted by many of the big names.
- Amir
from iPod
If Facebook bought Foursquare or provided the same type of service - then that would be really cool! No one wants another platform. It's Facebook, Twitter (and hopefully FF). I don't give much hope to anyone else at this point who is trying to build an app based on mass adoption. In my mind, Facebook is the new Microsoft. It is the next generation OS in a way - one that revolves around connection with others. Like the traditional OS market has shown, only two players can really be viable.
- Mike Bracco
Speaking personally, Facebook has been great for connecting with people I know, while Twitter has been great for connecting with strangers/biz contacts (some of whom I've ended up moving into my Facebook line-up). I work at home and so many of the people I mingle with regularly live inside my computer, and I've wished for a while for a widely-adopted platform that would allow my online...
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- Lisa Norman
They'll have to add more European Countries than just Amsterdam - it's pretty useless to me in the UK right now
- Rob Bell
I am using a machine running Vista SP1. I use Gmail for ALL my email. No local email clients in use. When I want to email a note in Evernote it always tries to fire up Windows Mail, instead of GMail. I do NOT want to use Windows Mail AT ALL. How can I change it to fire up Firefox and my Gmail ?
I don't think Evernote can do that for you but I've seen applications you can install in Windows that make that happen (for anything that triggers an email). Sorry I don't have a link but search on Lifehacker.com, I think I remember seeing something there.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay D - thanks very much. That seems to have done what I wanted. No more lame windows live mail popping up!
- Ian May
I found this post thread searching for a way to link gmail to Evernote, and was bummed when the link provided at the Lifehacker post noted above didn't work - but then found apparently the 'gattach' app has been integrated with a yahoo-based 'yattach' app available via http://www.affixa.com/downloa..., in case anyone else ends up having the same question/issue and finds this conversation later.
- Victoria Marinelli
I had the same question as Ian May and just found this post today (17 July '09). The Affixa program doesn't seem to work with Evernote when I tried it though (it works as advertised with everything else). Also, Affixa creates a draft in Gmail and you have to manually open Gmail to send your mail? I'm sorry but that's a very lame implementation.
- Andre P. Siregar
ok, try installing google apps, and making that default for mail. That seems to work for me now.
- Ian May
It works for me just fine. I like my Evernote more and more.
- Mathew A. Koeneker