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School Lunch Meat Gets an 'F' - http://www.credoaction.com/campaig...
It's hard to believe, but the USDA uses school lunch funds to help Big Meat offload thousands of tons of meat from old chickens that Kentucky Fried Chicken won't buy and usually goes to compost or pet food.
- Michael Muller
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Link to Petition
- Michael Muller
Just as I finished one cold, I'm starting on a second one :(. Working in a 10 person office had its advantages...
April Buchheit, Jim Connolly, Fabrizio and Roberto Bonini liked this
You Silicon Valley types, always competing. :)
- Cristo
hope you feel well soon, if not sooner, :(
- chaz2b
:( feel better!
- Rachel Lea Fox
:( 'tis the season! Get well soon, Paul!
- Andrew Terry
Hope it is short-lived.
- Anne Bouey
Neti Pot
- Michael Muller
Oh noes! :(
- April Buchheit
from iPhone
April: I think you mean "Oh nose!"
- Gabe
I knew you were going to say that, Gabe. :P
- April Buchheit
from iPhone
i read that as "just as i finished a cold one" and was about to congratulate you.
- Jessie
Feel better!
- Ruchira S. Datta
YouTube - Cat flushing our money down the toilet - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Jeff (the マクダジ of FF), Mark Trapp, Seth Garrison and 26 other people liked this
"Jennifer and Jim kept getting huge water bills. They knew beyond a doubt that the bills weren't representative of their actual usage, and no matter how they tried to conserve, the high bills continued. Although they could see nothing wrong, they had everything checked for leaks or problems: first the water meter, then outdoor pipes, indoor pipes, underground pipes, faucets, toilets, washer, ice maker, etc. -- all to no avail. One day Jim was sick and stayed home in bed, but kept hearing water running downstairs. He finally tore himself from his sick bed to investigate, and stumbled onto the cause of such high water bills. Apparently this was happening all day long when they were not at home. Knowing that few would believe him, he taped a segment of the 'problem' for posterity"
- Karen Padham Taylor
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Hahaha! What a scream!
- Anne Bouey
HAAAAAAAaaahahahahaha!!! I've got one cat that LOVES to watch the water go down the bowl: I'm screwed if he ever figures this trick out....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No kitty! That's a bad kitty!
- April Buchheit
that's GREAT!!!
- Felicia Yue
Wait....now that i actually think about it, if the couple didn't know about this before the sick day, then that would imply the cat hid this behavior when the ppl were home. so if he knew enough to do that, then why is he still engaging in the behavior when someone is standing right there watching and videotaping him?
- Felicia Yue
i'm totally overthinking this, aren't i? </brain flywheeling>
- Felicia Yue
I actually wonder that, too, Felicia.
- April Buchheit
Everybody knows a cat can't flush a toilet!
- Gabe
Felicia++. But y'know, if they could have trained the cat to poop in the toilet and flush, it might have nearly been worth it...
- Andrew C
I'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on this one.
- Slappy Line
lol, I guess you guys have to keep the door closed all the time
- Paul
Teach him to look over into the toilet just a little bit more...that should take care of your problem.
- Ann Fantauzzi
Bad kitty.
- Louis Gray
LOL... best laugh I've had in a while.
- mikepk
Your 100K awaits you on America's Funniest Home Videos......
- Michael Muller
The LSD No No - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Great little animation of Dock Ellis' infamous no-hitter
- Nelson Minar
This conveys rather well what every day in the mid 60s and onward was like..........
- Michael Muller
Los Colorados Hot & cold - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Benjamin Golub and Bret Taylor liked this
Oh, my.
- Anne Bouey
Ditto
- Michael Muller
The Symphony of Science - Spreading scientific knowledge and philosophy through music - http://www.symphonyofscience.com/
"The Symphony of Science is a musical project by John Boswell designed to deliver scientific knowledge and philosophy in musical form. Here you can watch music videos, download songs, read lyrics and find links relating to the messages conveyed by the music."
- Michael Muller
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Doing the Dishes - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Damn, I had to pee halfway through....
- Michael Muller
Also, I don't think anyone realized that this was a video, posting looked just like a single photo. A video might have gotten more attention.
- Michael Muller
And it's all about the attention isn't it?
- Michael Muller
It is a bummer that Flickr videos do not appear as videos on FF. So long as I got your attention Michael, I'm happy!
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Book Review - 'Inside of a Dog - What Dogs See, Smell, and Know,' by Alexandra Horowitz - Review - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Casey Muller liked this
"As a psychologist with a Ph.D. in cognitive science, as well as an ardent dogophile, Horowitz aims “to take an informed imaginative leap inside of a dog — to see what it is like to be a dog; what the world is like from a dog’s point of view.”"
- Michael Muller
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Yoda where ?
- Michael Muller
The Lucasfilm/Arts/ILM compound on the Presidio. That's also where "The Button" is located in their Stepfordesque/Dharma Initiative park and creek area.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
It's properly known as the Letterman Digital Arts Center. Apparently if you go during the work week (we didn't), they'll let you into the lobby of the building behind Yoda where you can visit with a life-size Vader and Boba Fett.
- sara
I didn't want to go into that lobby though. I've heard it's a trap.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Fett no good for me is....watching waist wasting not am I.
- Michael Muller
Denote: the easiest way to email yourself notes from the iPhone - Little Itch blog - http://littleitch.com/blog...
berchman, Robin Barooah, Antosh and 5 other people liked this
"Denote version 2.0 is now available on the App Store for $.99 USD. This version makes it even easier to use your email inbox for notes and reminders on the iPhone and iPod Touch. The most exciting new feature is that notes are now sent without leaving the application for a faster, smoother experience. This change also makes it easier to send multiple notes in a row. In addition, the email subject intro text, which still defaults to “Denote:”, can now be changed to any value, including setting it to be blank. Even the application icon got a little polishing."
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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"I hope you enjoy these new features. Let us know if we can do anything to improve Denote. Juana Molina’s Un Día was the unofficial theme for this release. The title translates to “one day” which is how long we wish releasing software took."
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Direct App Store download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Direct iTunes Album download link : http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
I can't wait to try this out. The first version made my life easier in very key moments.
- jonathan
Very nice. Is there any way to pick which email account the mail comes from so I don't have to change it every time I send a note?
- Casey Muller
That's a global setting on the phone. You can change that in the Settings app, in the "Mail, Contacts, Calendar" section, change the "Default Account" setting.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
The one I want for Denote is different than the one I want to send most mail from, but thanks.
- Casey Muller
Cool - the ability to change the intro text means I can use it to send tasks to omnifocus
- Robin Barooah
Oh.....99 cents!
- Michael Muller
I still think that's too little, but I understand it.
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Thanks for mentioning Juana Molina.....I created a new station on Pandora and "Un Dia" came up after a while. I especially liked the rhythm. And it was great to see all the artists new to me on that station. I am so conservative, just the same old Julieta Venegas and Shakira.
- Michael Muller
Her entire discography is amazing. We saw her live a few weeks ago; incredible show. If you get a chance to see her, I highly recommend it.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
In a window in North Beach - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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What, exactly, is coming soon you might ask . . . a workplace safety school? a limb removal service?
- sara
Buy the new Slim Jim's Soylent Green Single Serving Pak.
- Michael Muller
Hacker Section - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Kishore Balakrishnan, Casey Muller, Michael Muller and 2 other people liked this
where is that?
- Robin Barooah
Powell's Bookstore, technical annex, Portland, Oregon
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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I know Casey had a subscription to 2600 when he was eleven or twelve....I remember noting at the time that the magazine could not be sent to any prison. Did you also subscribe?
- Michael Muller
I was too much of a wimp to subscribe. I bought mine from the back shelf at Crown Bookstore.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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Not a wimp! Just operating in stealh mode, very effective.
- Michael Muller
How old were you two when you first went to Defcon?
- Michael Muller
I think my father would say "not old enough".
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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Michael Muller liked this
Nevermore
- Michael Muller
State of the Art - A Leap Forward With Snow Leopard - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
Ross Miller, Joel Webber, Jim Norris and 5 other people liked this
"Either way, the big story here isn’t really Snow Leopard. It’s the radical concept of a software update that’s smaller, faster and better — instead of bigger, slower and more bloated. May the rest of the industry take the hint."
- Bret Taylor
"There’s now a Put Back command in the Trash, just as in Windows’ Recycle Bin". Nice
- Benjamin Golub
I usually respect pogue a lot but I find this article to be pretty disappointing -- he really buries the lede. Essentially, he says "wow, an update that makes things smaller and somewhat faster -- how cool! p.s. there aren't many new features and many of your programs will crash." Seems to me most consumers will care more about the later points than the first one.
- david hammer
I don't know, the fact it actually got significantly smaller and faster, plus features OSes should have had for a while ("The Mac now adjusts its own clock when you travel, just like a cellphone. The menu bar can now show the date, not just the day of the week. The menu of nearby wireless hot spots now shows the signal strength for each.") - I agree with David. Given I am one of the proponents of "smaller and faster," I hope the market proves David right, but perhaps you are right.
- Bret Taylor
Pogue said the same thing about Dragon Naturally Speaking, that they had made the new version work better and not bigger.
- Michael Muller
#app=845b&e1bd-RunPeeID=0.0.0&308d-selectedIndex=0 - http://www.runpee.com/#
"helping your bladder enjoy going to the movies as much as you do"
- Michael Muller
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Cocoa With Love: StreamToMe - http://projectswithlove.com/streamt...
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"The StreamToMe application lets you use your iPhone or iPod Touch to play music and video files — in a wide variety of formats — streamed directly over WiFi from your Mac. If you connect the video-out cable for iPhone/iPod, StreamToMe can play through your TV, turning your iPhone/iPod plus Mac into a home media center."
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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I just purchased and set this up. It works perfectly.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
When are we getting a videophone?
- Michael Muller
All my Google searches end badly and misdirected....
Every search result, when clicked on, sends me to something completely different than what I was seeking. "Facebook company overview" results sent me to apartment finders and insurance agents. This happened in Mozilla and IE.....I tried various security settings but doesn't seem to help.
- Michael Muller
Is it possible there is some piece of spyware/malware installed on your machine Michael?
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Can you link to the search and the link?
- Casey Muller
Thanks for commenting. I can't link any search. Malware must be it. Especially since I periodically get sudden audio broadcasts and they are in IE even if I'm using Mozilla. Saw this on Task Manager. Panda doesn't seem to get rid of this. I downloaded new IE since I couldn't even open IE before and I need it for Windows updates. Now works but lotsa problems.
- Michael Muller
http://www.google.com/search... .........and then........http://www.bullz-eye.com/...
- Michael Muller
Try this: http://www.xdelbox.com/how-to-... or I bet your nephew works on software that will fix this.
- Casey Muller
I tried the Combo Fix and it seems to have worked. It took this whole while and was too complicated for most people. Thanks for the tip.
- Michael Muller
Nikon unveils S1000pj - the world's first projector camera - http://www.dpreview.com/news...
Tony Ruscoe, Mike Reynolds, ǝuǝƃnǝ and 9 other people liked this
I can't believe it took so long for someone to do this. I mean, all you have to do is run the image sensor in reverse to let all the captured photons out through the lens, right? ;)
- Ben Darnell
I wonder if they point in the same direction and can operate at the same time, that would make for small and light multitouch projects.
- Casey Muller
Cool!!!
- p3p3
What is happening with progress to make a videophone a reality?
- Michael Muller
A Vermont filmmaker chronicles the search for a “female Viagra” - Seven Days - http://www.7dvt.com/2009sto...
arda, Bruce Johnson, Ginger Makela Riker and 5 other people liked this
"What emerged from Canner’s work in pharmaceuticals is a near-exhaustive and often hilarious account of the science of female pleasure and the race to create a drug that will help women achieve the ultimate release. Her new film, Orgasm, Inc., explores Big Pharma’s stranglehold on women’s sexuality and the lengths to which its players will go to help women get off with pills, creams, patches or even surgically implanted electrodes."
- Bret Taylor
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Interesting, but "stranglehold" sounds like hyperbole, and if it applies to any gender, I'd say men are now popping more pills for sexual performance. Big Pharma's also been researching the 'holy grail' for men, which is a drug which will eliminate the refractory period in men after orgasm, so that men can have as many orgasms in a row as possible. This drug could potentially be the downfall of civilization. :)
- Ray Cromwell
"eliminate the refractory period"? Sounds messy :)
- Joel Webber
will look at the article, but from what you write it sounds like " the science of female pleasure" from a male/big pharma perspective, so you know it's got to be skewed. Women need men that know how to pay attention and not be selfish- and that would go a LONG way. Also reminds me of what every woman always says: If men had to go through mammograms and childbirth, we would have more...
more...
- Karma Martell
I think if there was a machine that squeezed men's testicles to detect cancer like mammogram machines, men would choose to live with cancer risk. :) @Joel, the interesting thing is, I think this drug isn't too far off. The mechanism (Prolactin surge) is well understood not (http://www.nature.com/ijir...) so only a safe inhibitor is needed. This could make heroin and crack look like caffeine in comparison. :)
- Ray Cromwell
Romance
- Michael Muller
FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Jason A. Samfield, Srikanth AD, Ozer Wrzl (EN) and 658 other people liked this
We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
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Boom.
- Louis Gray
Grr!
- directeur
Woah...
- Brandon Titus
Uh. Well, that's the end of that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret?
- Kol Tregaskes
Lame.
- Mark Trapp
great title bret. well played.
- MG Siegler
WOW
- Bindu Reddy
Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general?
- Dilip Dand
wahhhhhhhhhh
- Myrna
maaaan
- Jamie
wowow
- Harry Wolff
congrats
- brainno722 (Peter)
Nooooooooooooo
- Mushin
Wait... seriously?
- Ken Sheppardson
oh, noooo
- Tanju Yildiz
Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep.
- Ladybug Heather
Seriously?!? .....
- sebastian☆rocket brother
oh boy.
- Carlos Ayala
I am hoping this will lead to nice integration for cross posting! Currently using Twitter App on FB to post and I hate those ff.im links that end up on Facebook.
- Ivan Zlatev
it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :(
- holly
division by zero
- Onur Cengiz
OMG
- Onur Gündüz
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- Scott of Two Countries
gratz
- Ali
My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :(
- Tyson Key
Wow, it's true!!
- Kevin Whalen
Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future.
- Brandon Titus
O_o
- Joe Silence is not Santa
So it IS true.
- Hector
Nicely done Bret
- Jennifer Van Grove
Congratulations btw, guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Congrats, Bret.
- Jordan Hofker
This is just horrible
- Matthew DeVries
Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least.
- Irma Vermaat
Um.
- Barry Mitchelson
Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :)
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook?
- Tyson Key
Oh no....
- Ben Hanten
Terrible fit.
- Matthew DeVries
damn here it is... :(
- Edgar Rodríguez
FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd)
- Bahriye
*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots*
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Die.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats
- Zoltan Szendro
I dont want FF to end
- Fee501st
Wow
- Shevonne
Oh mon dio !
- Umar
What did you do? WHYYY!
- Zachary TG
Ostregheta.
- Reloj
Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way.
- Hutch Carpenter
guess there's no way of denying this anymore :(
- BCK
Just another lesson in why you shouldn't put your love and trust in a company......
- Matthew DeVries
Oh no!
- Erdinc YILMAZEL
Congrats, but I hate Facebook.
- Zachary TG
I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think.
- Mark Sorrell
"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :(
- Tyson Key
Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together!
- Sean O'Connor
This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P
- Malte Steckmeister
Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :(((((((((((
- Roberto
Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you!
- Nathan Chase
And FriendFeed was just getting popular. Not any more.
- Zachary TG
Wow
- Rodfather
*Sobs*
- Tyson Key
wow
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
to the dump
- Zachary TG
Wow, very disappointed
- Randy Pollock
come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team
- Edgar Rodríguez
As am I
- Zachary TG
machecazzo
- Sba
VERY disappointed.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
horrible decision
- Randy Pollock
Booo. But, you know, congrats.
- Chris Nixon
i'm not sure i'm happy about this.
- Taylan Aydınlı
OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T
- Alp
Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-(
- Laurent
God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce.
- DarknessFalls
arg.
- Aron Michalski
Good for you, don't know for all of us
- Cristian Conti
@#$& that's all I have to say. For now.
- Zachary TG
Facebook should have been aquired by Friendfeed. Why they hell would you give up your better product to a worse one? Did none of you give a shit about this service to begin wiht?
- Matthew DeVries
Congrats!
- Alix Whitmire
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
I'm pissed off. I wan to throw away the whole Internet :
- DarkBls
Congrats!
- Moushumi Kabir
Congrats guys. :)
- Meryn Stol
Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook.
- Mike Sego
mommy?
- Josh Haley
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
FFail
- rael
What will happen to my 92 subscribers?
- Zachary TG
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
Tragic.
- Shannon
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
here come the comments
- Zachary TG
Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell.
- Zio Bonino
Yeah, quizzes are EVIL!
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Wow.
- Zachary TG
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Congratulations. Enjoy the new challenges of acquisition, and I'm looking forward to the result!
- Wade Dorrell
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Feedface or Facefeed?
- Fee501st
FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^]
- TiTi
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Facefucked or Fuckfeed?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
There is zero way this could have been a win for anyone, but the now rich founders.
- Matthew DeVries
duh
- aybars badur
I HATE facebook
- Pedram
this is simply awful.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
If I have to go to FB to use FF then it's a lost cause
- Randy Pollock
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook is going to acquire the web!
- l'Ego di Gigi
To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which..
- Moushumi Kabir
Oh noes!
- Burcu Dogan
Congrats Bret!
- Robin Dindayal
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- Steve C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay Farmington
Where's the "dislike" option?
- Gregor Morrill
+1 Gregor
- Tyson Key
accipicchia che pessima notizia
- massimo mantellini
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_-
- Bahriye
I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ...
- DarknessFalls
/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Philipp Lenssen
And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today.
- Michael Forian
omg
- John μller
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Such great news!
- Steve Rubel
Not sure what to think of this.
- Matthew Speicher
where is dislike button ?
- Osman Üngür
OMG!
- Zac Bowling
now where did I put my twitter password
- Randy Pollock
big mistake :((
- emresezgin
I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Harrison
Congratulations, guys!!!!!!!!!
- Jess Lee
Oh. Hell. No.
- CannonGod
Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed!
- Tyson Key
so the (once)new facebook homepage was actually the tip of the iceberg?
- Onur Cengiz
It's a win/win! congrats all.
- Alan Le
Time to roll your own Frienfeed clone.
- Fırat Can Başarır
Congrats to you.
- Evan Travers
Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users.
- Aren Grimshaw
FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken!
- vijay
not good.
- Jacque
Oh. My. Gosh.
- Enrico Lamperti
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- Voyagerfan5761
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
sad...
- Marvin
Congrats guys. And thanks for your continuos effort in helping promote and integrate web services, like mine, Wakoopa. That's awesome and I hope FB gets better because of it.
- Robert Gaal
This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever.
- Michael Netsch
Will there be a super poke feature launched tomorrow?
- Matthew DeVries
aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though!
- acedanger
please don't merge logins!!! please
- earlyadopter
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them.
- The Complex Days
I hope it works OK to you guys!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet.
- Federico Bolsoman
Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke.
- Rochelle
Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:<
- CannonGod
I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running....
- Roberto Bonini
"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle
- adolfo foronda
Another good thing: This ups the bar for Wave.
- Wade Dorrell
What a bunch of greedy assholes.
- Zio Bonino
So ?
- Ercan Bülbül
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
:(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
The End.
- Kaan Ertürk
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
Game over.
- stark
yeah removing feed also works.
- Bahriye
Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall...
- Marcos
Given that the FriendFeed team has never been anything but awesome & respectful of its community, I think it's unfair for people to assume that the Facebook acquisition is going to change that.
- Jess Lee
Why in god's name are we flying over this shark?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
- Matthew DeVries
Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Noooooooo......
- Sung W. Lim
yeahhh
- Çağrı Burak
NO
- Cristian Conti
Congrats! That sucks.
- Rutger Blom
Where is that evidence Jess?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
Robin, the Facebook users don't want that I'm afraid.
- Rutger Blom
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
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- Alper Ömer Esin
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- Zio Bonino
Near term future?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Jim Is Not Smart
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio...
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Where the f*ck is this option to undo ?
- Laurent
Odd that this thread gets modded?
- Matthew DeVries
I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry.
- Michael Lynton
Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;)
- Tyson Key
Congratulations!
- John Craft
can't be, shouldn't be...
- Kemal
It is! Change is inevitable, my friends.
- Bill Sodeman
Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook.
- Robin Barooah
So will we be playing FriendFeed Mafia Wars at some point in the future? Ugh.
- Alex Hellstrom
I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it..............
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh No! I don't like this at all :(
- Peter
WTF! Horrible Bret, this the death of FriendFeed.. you know that right?
- Santa CW™
I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter.
- Thomas Power
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
AAAAwwwful!
- carolh
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
The FF founders must have know this would be a very unpopular move. Most users I know here are not too fond of FB.
- Rutger Blom
damn, damn, damn...
- Kemal
One of the sadest news for Internet and web creativity :(
- DarkBls
Woah woah... This is real?
- Jason Huebel
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" There's a bit of a contradiction in your statement, Bret. Nice try though.
- jcunwired
Now I can break my Internet plan at home.
- DarkBls
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
wow!! dazed and confused!!
- Roberto Arancibia
I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- Elena
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
:|
- Amin BZ
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
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Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!!
- Jason Pollock
That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet.
- Peter
Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe?
- Robert Felty
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
It's all about the money. I would have payed a couple of dollars each month to use FF.
- Rutger Blom
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
OMG!
- keso
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
I'm just surprised, that's all. I'm not saying this is a bad thing (it certainly isn't for the owners of FF). I'm willing to sit back and see what happens.
- Jason Huebel
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate DA FF MVP
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
My biggest concern here is that FB has a completely different audience than FF.
- Rutger Blom
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
Fail.
- Big K
Big Fail!
- OnuRC
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
wtf ?!
- Umut
I need to install "super PUKE" application !
- Bart LePoole
FFail.
- rowlikeagirl
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
JEREMY+++++1
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Wow!
- felix
Well, I guess it is time to dismantle my friendfeed. We all know where this is headed. So, so glad I didn't move all my rss feeds from greader to friendfeed like so many cheerleaders suggested.
- Matthew Speicher
Jeremy +1
- F. Batuhan Icoz
so what's next? where should we go?
- Flavio
It's been fun here.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
Don, I don't think FB wants to maintain two platforms.
- Rutger Blom
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
Congratulations!
- Sam Grover
Flavio, that's not very realistic I'm afraid, but I like the idea.
- Rutger Blom
rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB
- Flavio
Tony, most likely
- Rutger Blom
read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009...
- Kemal
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
God help us
- Johnny
Once again. I'm happy for the FF team. They worked hard and now collect. That's fair. Wonder if they're sitting in a bubble pool drinking champagne while we cry out here ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Congrat Bret!! :))
- Cihan Cepni
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
Great point, Don.
- Rutger Blom
+1 Don
- Johnny
Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now?
- Pinksy
I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation.
- Tomas Remotigue
LOLI FFAIL
- rael
lame.
- andy brudtkuhl
This should be good news for Twitter.
- Rutger Blom
post the picture to failblog...
- Kemal
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
Really saddened by this news.
- 253 other people
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
- LouCypher
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- Thomas Bøhm
ChaCha, if everybody would do that there would not be much discussion would there? This is part of the fun.
- Rutger Blom
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Drat!
- Gee Ekachai
congrats guys!
- Elad
Don, I doubt there is any discussion going on there. They're too busy throwing quizes at each other.
- Rutger Blom
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
At least my Feedburner stats might go back to normal again.
- Rutger Blom
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
Don, LOL :-)
- Rutger Blom
If anybody has doubts as to what happens to the FriendFeed community or our stored information here, read this statement from Bret (in this thread) "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users". Now maybe you can see "whats so bad about it" and curb your optimism. Not good.
- jcunwired
Congrats FF. Fix their live feed situation please.
- Edward Barnieh
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- Danli
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Congrats. I suppose this means the end of FriendFeed but hopefully a better Facebook.
- Harry Toon
Hmm. Interesting.
- Ralf Becker
Add me to the fearful group.
- beersage
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congrat Bret
- Nimaa
Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :)
- DENEPPAH TIHS
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
:(
- goodmachine
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
СУКИ-СУКИ-СУКИ!!!!
- Viktor
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cassidy
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
aieeeeeeeeeee
- Richard Akerman
FAIL. Facebook is the new myspace, and now friendfeed will become a part of that BS. Can't say I'm too surprised because eventually we all sell out. BTW I don't see friendfeed lasting more than the rest of this year, if that. The good news is that we can all be subjected to add 'Are you related to a monkey?' and Blackjack apps while having annoying personal ads on our profile pages. Fuck this shit.
- Tomy Thomson
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:(
- Eph Zero
Well done Bret!
- Alemsah Ozturk
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
It was fun while it lasted.
- Mr. Gunn
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter...
- The Count Rob
Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product!
- Michael Nielsen
Whattttttttttttttttttttt???
- Nibi
The social community that has been behind FriendFeed creators have built a wonderful product. Only problem is, we don't have Zuck's checkbook :(
- jcunwired
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I don't like this....
- Zeki Pehlivan
"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now.
- Kamilah Gill
Same here, Kamilah.
- Tyson Key
If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it.
- Vishal Verma
and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :(
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us!
- Joris
WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed.
- Jason R. Hunter
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats guys (and gals) !
- Benjy Weinberger
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
And the metastasizing, walled-garden that is Facebook, continues to eat the Web. Bring on Google Wave.
- Christopher A Carr
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
There goes FriendFeed down the toilet. well I WAS having a good day. until hearing this crap!
- Scratch5150
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
Somebody has to got pay for it.
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
So what now? a name change too? FriendFace? FeedBook? FaceFeed? god Facebook really sucks. oh well. Adds anyone?
- Scratch5150
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY
- Ozgur Uckan
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- Ebru Baranseli
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Dang! I've killed another site! Sorry guys... FF was doing fine until I started coming here again! Same with Pownce! Went there and liked it... went underground for a spell... came back and still liked it, so I stayed. A few months later... BOOM! I have the touch! (I'm thinking I'll start devoting a lot of time to Twitter... maybe I can kill that one, too!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Все, блядь, пиздец!
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
WOW - very happy for all of you :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Oh yeah? Ok: take tour money and go to the hell. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Sucks big time.
- Drea
Sadness
- Yasin Jason
I can't believe this happened
- Johnny
Suggested name: FailFriend. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Friend facebooks feed (FFF)
- Filiz Koyuncu
«Experience shows that those who never trust anyone will never be disappointed.» Leonardo da Vinci
- Claude LaFrenière
So what exactly is going to happen? Is FF eventually going to disappear? Will it merge into the Facebook interface? Please don't do that
- Ethan
Gimme my OPML export
- Sriks7
Money is the root of all evil
- Shakeel Mahate
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Well I've thought about it, and I'll stick around until I start seeing that crappy Facebook logo, I only have 71 subscribers here, I hate to do it but I'll probably scrap the whole thing and start over somewhere else. still can't believe that shit.
- Scratch5150
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
I can't believe it either. I feel as if — for the moment — I am lost in the wilderness, adrift.
- roamin
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed...
- amelia arapoff
Congrats you guys, well deserved.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Congrats Bret! Hope the transition goes smoothly for you guys.
- Cristo
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
boo.
- kelly
The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?)
- Dennis Jernberg
Boo
- Amit Morson
Logan: What do you mean by "both" companies?
- Christopher A Carr
Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Hope you guys enjoy your new jobs. Meanwhile we get to watch a great alternative to Facebook with a promising future go down the tubes. A really sad and unfortunate day.
- Todd Holmes
BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck.
- Dale
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Congrats and good luck..
- Can Koklu
Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now.
- abacab
Goodbye FF, it was wonderful..
- Francesco Cugurra
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- Seo (ignobile) Guru
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Congratulations Friendfeed :D
- paniaguai
Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
Oh shit. Love FF, hate FB. I'll NEVER, EVER merge my two accounts. I'd rather unsub from both than merging. I'll wait for the developments, and in the meantime look for an alternative.
- Alliandre (la Ippe)
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
congrats!
- Ronald
thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next
- Arini dewi muchtaram
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
good for you, bad for us
- Zachary Earl Strader
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
sad, sad, sad.
- scott willeke
Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well.
- Juan Bruce
bad bad bad
- kakilang
bye bye friendfeed!
- Jonathan Crossland
Why-eee!!! ??? What next?
- Wayne Lewis
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool.
- sofarsoShawn
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
Siddharth Parmar, Nate Pilling, Gordon Saunders and 103 other people liked this
That's nice. Just random, or in response to something. :)
- τorƍue
Does that mean you got a little sleep?
- Anne Bouey
Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason.
- Louis Gray
this could be big.
- vijay
Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee!
- Travis Koger
O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes)
- Martha
10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :)
- Joe Beda ()
This emoticon makes a little more sense now...
- Stephen Foskett
Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement?
- Ben Hedrington
Cheshire cat?
- Hutch Carpenter
Good for you, Paul. I can't help but feel a little let down, though.
- Matthew Gifford
well done!
- michael sean wright
Congrats! Let us (well, our chef) cook you lunch before you're no longer walking distance! :)
- Don MacAskill
I have the same feeling as Matthew Gifford... Congrats to you, Paul, but I'm not sure this bodes well for the rest of us.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Congrats, Paul. :-)
- Jordan Hofker
Congratulations!
- Ethan Herdrick
Congratulations to the whole team, Paul!
- Ryan Kuder
yeah they signed away the community :(-
- Peter Dawson
Congrats Paul if they're truely in order :)
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- andy brudtkuhl
congrats to the team, but to be honest i'm not liking it at all
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good news or bad news? :)
- Arda Çetin
Congrats Paul! I was really hoping this would happen. Friendfeed and Facebook need each other. Cheers!
- Akshay Dodeja
Now I get it. Congrats on the $$.
- Yolanda
Now I know...and knowing is half the battle
- Bwana ☠
:(
- TiTi
Congratulations!!!! A 'worthy' smiley ... ;-)
- Bo Stern
I think Paul's emoticon was charming and that Louis Gray is either super discerning or super informed.
- Michael Muller
Congrats to the FF team you guys are awesome (keep this place awesome)
- Ryan
WHAT'VE YOU DONE!!!! THAT'S TOTALLY SH*T!
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
congratulations, may your road ahead be smooth...
- Nathan Chase
That can imho only mean good things for the FB UI ...
- Bo Stern
Congratulations, definitely.
- DGentry
congrats!
- Peter Warnock
Congrats to you and the entire FF team. I hope you guys are in it for the long haul.
- Mike Doeff
hey congrats to the FF team! I look forward to seeing what the future holds
- (jeff)isageek
Congratulations Paul & FF team!
- Charles Ying
congrats dude
- Jason Pollock
:(
- Alex Scrivener
Congratulations.
- 321
congratulations.. but liked the whole UI & funtionality of ff than fb!! it'll b gone!!
- Gtp19
You're totally ::stpd::
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
its business after all, sell it but get back to make a better product for your old users. dont 4get the users !!
- Peter Dawson
:(
- acedanger
the results of good work
- Juan Pablo Ruiz
congratulations!
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Congrats!
- DS
GZ!
- Sarp
:) we will learn from the process
- abdellah
Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users.
- tollie williams
@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks.
- Ken Kennedy
scared!!!
- abdellah
Good luck Paul... it's gonna be a great partnership.
- Andrew
Congrat's Paul. Great news, and I'm really happy for all of you!
- Michael Fidler
Congrats to the whole FriendFeed team!
- John McCrea
Way to go Paul - bet you sleep like a baby tonight whilst Biz and Ev scratch their heads once more!
- Jan Simmonds
Sure congrats to you!!!
- susan mernit
http://friendfeed.com/markzuk...... Hold on! markzukerberg?!?!
- Lora Lufark
Congrats!
- fbrunel
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :)
- Susan Beebe
I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Nice job, Paul and team. Congrats!
- Rob Shillingsburg
many congrat. from UK. ;) @GarethWong
- Gareth
I bet you never forget your anniversary EVER ever now.
- Pete Delucchi
boo-urns
- Raphael, Raphael
:D
- paniaguai
:-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congratulations, great for you and the team.
- Rocky
i like the way the deal was done!
- Siddharth Parmar
G.Z.s
- Ugur Akdmr
NOVA | Musical Minds | Watch the Program | PBS - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh...
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Watch today or in the next two days...
- Laila
from Bookmarklet
"Twenty or 30 years ago there was a tendency to think of the brain as almost as fixed as it would appear to be anatomically. And we, in fact, now know that the brain is just continually shaping itself, being reshaped. There seems almost no end to the plasticity of the brain."
- Michael Muller
"But can musical ability be wired into the brain where it never existed before? The answer may lie in one of Oliver Sack's most mysterious case histories, sparked off by an event which took place in a small town in New York State, on a stormy afternoon, in August, 1994. I have never met another person with a story like Tony Cicoria's. Tony was 42, a former college football player who had become a well-regarded orthopedic surgeon."
- Michael Muller
"OLIVER SACKS: Tony is a surgeon, in New York State, who had very little musical background, or interest, or taste or talent, until, through a freak accident of being on the phone in a storm, he was hit in the face by a bolt of lightening, flung back and killed, in a sense. He probably had a cardiac arrest. He had one of these strange out-of-body experiences, which one can have in these circumstances, then he was resuscitated. He seemed to be pretty much himself."
- Michael Muller
"But then, three or four weeks after this, a strange transformation happened, where he developed a sudden "insatiable passion," as he put it, for hearing piano music, and then for playing piano music, and then for composing piano music. This took hold of him and wouldn't let him go."
- Michael Muller
FMARS 2009 | Flashline Mars Arctic Research Station, Devon Island, Canada - http://www.fmars2009.org/
"The Mars Society today announces the selection of six crew members, chosen to take part in a month-long Mars simulation on Devon Island in the Canadian arctic. This will be the twelfth crew to inhabit the Flashline Mars Arctic Research Station (FMARS), conducting a sustained program of field exploration while operating under Mars mission constraints."
- Michael Muller
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I wasn't permitted to delete the first posting below; I wanted to have a better photo but I'm stuck with two postings....Hmm, no problem in Mozilla, so maybe that was and IE6 glitch?
- Michael Muller
Dear Lazyweb: As we'll probably end up buying a house in the near future in some sun-drenched corner of the Bay Area, I'd like to learn more about solar panels. Please enlighten me.
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What are good solar panel brands? what are brands that I should avoid? Any particularly good or bad experiences with installers?
- Tudor Bosman
Where are the sweet spots in the 3-D graph of wattage / area / cost?
- Tudor Bosman
Are there any developments that could change the market significantly in the next few years?
- Tudor Bosman
Where can I learn more?
- Tudor Bosman
From what I've heard, the number one influence of economy of home solar is the tax incentives you get to install it. All these other little details like panel efficiency and sub angles are minor compared to the fat rebate you get from the government. Perhaps Steve Lacy could comment?
- Brian Johns
I asked the same question on Ask Metafilter; here's a link to the thread. http://ask.metafilter.com/126586...
- Tudor Bosman
Actually the main advantage is that solar cuts off the part of your bill that is most expensive. Top tier usage is much more expensive so even partial production by solar panel sharply reduces your bill. But you need a high electric bill to justify solar.
- Michael Muller
In sunny places you can actually get enough wattage during the day to offset all of your usage and sometimes put more energy on the grid then you use, so the power company pays you. You can also use a solar water heater system. Consumer Reports: http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home... California: http://www.gosolarcalifornia.ca.gov/index...
- Heather
Occidental Power in SF has a good reputation but they're also expensive. (We went with them for our new house.) If you have lots of space, using direct solar water heating will be optimum for "wattage / area / cost" compared to PV. For a PV retrofit onto a roof, remember that panels come in discrete sizes so check in advance how much coverage you can get. If you need a Class A roof by...
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- Daniel Dulitz
There are LOTS of companies that do home solar installation. They can recommend/privide panels. Not sure of the ETA on thin film solar or solar thermal for mass use, but lots of people use solar for things like heating the water in their house. This last possibility requires substantial plumbing work, however.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
How often does the Bay Area get hail? That's a major factor where I live.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
Decide if you want "cost savings" or "environmental savings". For pure cost savings on a large electric bill (large house with A/C) then getting a small-ish system (2-4kW) will have the fastest payoff. Large electric users can get some ROI for a small system in < 10 years. Systems that cover 100% of yearly kWh generally payoff in 15 years.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
I got my panels (in Mountain View) from Solar City and was pretty happy with the purchase & install process. I suggest that you call them (or any other installer) and have them do an eval on your needs. They nearly perfectly estimated the yearly output of my system.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
You could model the price of any solar system by it's components as such: Install + Panels + Inverter - Rebate = Net Cost. The biggest cliff points in cost are at the Inverters and Rebates. Inverters come in fixed kW sizes, and you want to run them at near peak capacity for efficiency reasons. So, the most cost-effective system will likely be dependent on your usage and how that compares with inverter capacities. Rebates are going down as we speak, so acting sooner is almost always better.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
If you want purely "cost savings" then going with solar hot water is the most cost effective. You may look into having both put on your roof at the same time. Solar hot water with a circulating pump can be had for a much smaller cost than PV solar, and has a very short (2-4 year) payoff time.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
We have BP brand panels, and they're just fine. I don't think there are any reliability issues with panels, so I wouldn't worry about it. There is an aesthetics issue, and some panels look nicer than others. Ours are all black, which looks nice, but are hotter, which means slightly less efficient.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group... will be useful if you're in/around Mountain View
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Steve Lacy has great advice. One other idea: solar panels for electricity do not have to go on the roof of your house. When I got bids from 3 companies the location of the panels over 200 feet from my house did not increase the price at all. The metal racks supporting the panels can be positioned with more accuracy and less chance of wind damage. Our property, an acre, has lots of...
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- Michael Muller
Where's a good hotel to stay in Kauai?
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The Grand Hyatt is great. kauai.hyatt.com
- Seth
Tried out a couple of places (the Sheraton and the Hyatt Regency) when we went back in '05, but they weren't remarkable. Too bad there isn't a Four Seasons or Ritz on the island. I like those two hotel chains.
- April Buchheit
Ok, great but unremarkable. ;) How could you not love the pools and the waterslide?
- Seth
The Hyatt did have a pretty nice spa. We might stay there again just for that.
- April Buchheit
I recommend renting a condo, for more space and convenience. Some (most) cater to tourists and get housecleaning service a few times a week.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
St. Regis Princeville near Hanalei Bay and Napali Coast entrance.
- Eric Logan
Also: the north side (Princeville) is beautiful and lush, but rainy. The south side (Poipu) is dry and less expensive. The east side (Kappa, Lihue) is busy and overpopulated -- this isn't what you're going to Hawaii for! The west side is, for the most part, a gorgeous national park.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
My friends the Palekas in Kapa'a. I can crash there anytime. No pool though ;)
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
We stayed here and it was beautiful (Marriott) http://www.marriott.com/hotels...
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I am sitting on a veranda overlooking the Wailua River canyon. Only greenery meets my eyes as I look out over the river. Pigs snorting down below, roosters crowing, so many birds and the ground is littered with bright blue gumball sized fruit containing rudraksha beads; the pigs love the blue part. Behind me are houses and roads but in front is primeval; at night there is not a single light as far one can see. So I suggest looking for place on the Rim; beaches, such as Lydgate, are five minutes away.
- Michael Muller
Don't stay at the princeville!!!!! Unless you golf there is very little to do and it is very removed from most island activities.
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
The ocean side of the Poipu Sheraton is fabulous! http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Michael Hocter
Rachel: you can drive from one end of the island to the other in less than 90 minutes. Nothing is "very removed", and some of my favorite beaches were on the north side (Tunnel, Ke'e).
- Tudor Bosman
from email
I think rachel means that while the Princeville is very close geographically to some of the most beautiful parts of the island, there aren't roads that connect directly and you have to drive completely around the island to get to a place only a few miles from your hotel. If I'm on vacation, 3 hours roundtrip to get to the forest I'm interested in is considerable, and worth being aware of. Also, I personally found the Princeville to haughty and overpriced.
- Kevin Fox
from iPhone
Kevin and Rachel: Can you hike from the Princeville to those places?
- Daniel Dulitz
Tudor you have to drive to everything!!! Through the golf course taking 15 minutes at least for doing anything. There beach is tiny. You have to leave the hotel even for a massage (unless you are having it on the beach but they only do a few of those). Nothing leaves from the beach, you can't walk or hike to anything. You have only 2 restaurant options unless you drive and they are both...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
Daniel , not when we stayed there. It's surrounded by golf course and wetlands
- Rachel Lea Fox
from iPhone
I have to agree with Rachel. We found the north side as one big golf hellhole and we generally like being close to lots of points of interest (e.g., shops and restaurants or a lively downtown), within walking distance is best, short driving distance close in second.
- April Buchheit
from iPhone
Tudor: I'd only consider renting if we were bringing the kids, but this trip will just be for Paul and me. I personally prefer staying in a hotel. Nothing says vacation better than room service. :)
- April Buchheit
April: okay :) I thought this was for all four of you. Have fun on your Hawaiian getaway!
- Tudor Bosman
from email
Daniel: the Kalalau Trail is not for the faint of heart :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Tudor Bosman
My wife and I split our trip between Poipu and Princeville. We stayed at the Sheraton in Poipu and the Hanalei Bay Resort (http://www.summitpacificinc.com/hanalei...). Hanalei Bay Resort is just down the hill from The St. Regis Princeville Resort. Not nearly as upscale but a lot cheaper. Like others have said, the northern part of the island is more remote but it's also much more scenic. We did about 5 miles on the Kalalau Trail and also did a great boat ride along the Napali Coast.
- Mike Doeff
HEMA - online winkelen - http://producten.hema.nl/#
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HEMA is a Dutch department store. The first store opened on November 4, 1926, in Amsterdam. Now there are 150 stores all over the Netherlands. HEMA also has stores in Belgium, Luxemburg, and Germany. In June of this year, HEMA was sold to British investment company Lion Capital. Take a look at http://producten.hema.nl/, HEMA's product page. You can't order anything and it's in Dutch, but just wait a couple of seconds and watch what happens. It's worth it!
- Michael Muller
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2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy - http://www.japantoday.com/categor...
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"According to the report in il Giornale, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities June 3 when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan. The daily did not say on what charges they have been detained, but the two may have been detained on suspicion of attempting to take a large amount of securities out of Italy without declaring it because the paper said they had not declared the bonds."
- Paul Buchheit
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That's a lot of money! It's not clear who it could belong to, though there's some speculation on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r...
- Paul Buchheit
Wow. Brings a whole new meaning to "run for the border".
- Louis Gray
I wonder what would have happened if they had declared they were carrying $134B.
- Private Sanjeev
that's a lot of gelato.
- Karim
In related news: "An Israeli woman who bought her elderly mother a new mattress threw out the old one unaware that it had $1 million hidden inside it." http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
- Nick Lothian
the us treasury issues $500 million dollar bearer bonds?
- bob
Maybe they are new 1000 year bonds so really they are only worth like $190 right now.
- Hayes Haugen
There doesn't seem to be any significant change in bond pricing over the last few days, so I guess the market thinks these are fake. (@bob - yes, there are some)
- Nick Lothian
Apparently the US did issue $500m bonds at one time, but this is looking like a scam. http://www.businessinsider.com/italy-s...
- Andrew Leyden
If they're fakes they should of realised it would be a little obvious (ok, im underestimating little) to have $134billion's worth of bonds especially in this economic climate ;)
- Nicholas James
@Nicholas - yes, you'd think that - but who would try and fake a $500 million bond? And are they good enough to be undetectable? (The reddit story has some links on that)
- Nick Lothian
How physically big is the bundle of 249 bonds a piece? As for the old mattress piece - that should teach her never to be overzealous when it comes to cleaning.
- ianf ⌘
@Nick My money is on North Korean agents with JP passports.
- Richard Chen
@Richard - yes, that would be a good bet. But you'd wonder how deep a game they are playing - are they just trying to raise money, or are they trying to undermine trust in the US financial system.
- Nick Lothian
Superbonds, perhaps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Richard Chen
they can wire the money to me...
- dennis rudolf devid
But Sirs I assure you that these gentlemen are bringing the money to me, especially since I had wired $50,000 to them as good faith and to expedite papers to release the previously unclaimed monies.
- Michael Muller
Michael++
- Andrew C
Looks like they were fake after all: U.S. Says Treasury Bonds Seized in Italy Are Fakes (Update1) - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Fake, sure, that's what they want us to believe. Conspiricists, start your engines!
- Erik Erkelens
Back in USA - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Mmm... the in and the out.
- Michael
And potable water.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
Some pretty dark looking water
- sara
Potable ice cubes?
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
I hope you left a giant propina for the cleaning staff! Giant.
- Michael Muller
Does an enormous bag of explosives count? Turns out the Policia does not like it when you set off fireworks.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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Didn't they just release a movie about this?
- Michael Muller
I like the bottle of Bombay Sapphire next to the frying pan of breakfast goodness you got going. Never had "Gin Eggs" before. How are they?
- berchman
I believe that gin is being used as mouthwash.
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
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Is this still the art at the house?
- sara
The house owner has interesting "taste".
- Jonathan Le Plastrier
What dreams may come.
- Michael Muller
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