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Any help would be much appreciated! My search fu has failed :-( - Michael Nielsen
At first glance, there's this book: The Pentium chronicles : the people, passion, and politics behind Intel's landmark chips. York, UofT & Ryerson all have it. - John Dupuis
Also this one, though it's a bit older: Creating the digital future : the secrets of consistent innovation at Intel - John Dupuis
If you still have access to IEEE Xplore, there's quite a lot in there too. Most of that should be indexed in Google Scholar. - John Dupuis
John: this is great! Stupidly, I didn't look for books, after wasting the better part of an hour looking for other sources (academic papers, blog posts, other online material). I'm sure there must be stuff in the academic literature, too, maybe the business school literature, but I didn't find the right combination of search terms. - Michael Nielsen
Validating the Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 microprocessor by Bentley, B. International Conference on Dependable Systems and Networks, 2001. - John Dupuis
I searched on: ((intel and chip and design)<in>metadata) and floating point bug, mixing and matching. - John Dupuis
librarian fu FTW! - Christina Pikas
I also searched on "intel chip [/microprocessor] design" and several variants, in Scholar and several other places. I threw out the results which were testing related, and otherwise found only a few slightly useful tidbits. I should look at the testing ones more closely, methinks. (I threw out the Bentley paper previously). - Michael Nielsen
"The Pentium Chronicles" looks great! Thankyou, John. - Michael Nielsen
Have you seen: Inside Intel-coping with complex projects by Bell, S.; Kastelic, T. from the Engineering Management Journal, feb 2001 - John Dupuis
John - that Bell and Kastelic paper is exactly what I was looking for. The vague number I remember from my engineer was 650, so I think the paper is even describing the same project. It's perfect! Thankyou. - Michael Nielsen
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Public Forum to Discuss Options for Improving Public Access to Results of Federally Funded Research | The White House - http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog...
"The Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President and the White House Open Government Initiative is launching a “Public Access Policy Forum” to invite public participation in thinking through what the Federal government’s policy should be with regard to public access to published federally-funded research results. To that end, OSTP will conduct an interactive, online discussion beginning Thursday, December 10. " - Michael Nielsen
Kohl S Gill
Take THAT Sickle Cell Anemia! And who says big government can't solve problems? http://www.mercurynews.com/search...
Not Science2.0, deleted from the room. - Michael Nielsen
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DARPA Pays MIT to Pay Someone Who Found Someone Who Found Someone Who Found a Red Balloon | Freedom to Tinker - http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog...
"DARPA, the Defense Department's research arm, recently sponsored a "Network Challenge" in which groups competed to find ten big red weather balloons that were positioned in public places around the U.S. The first team to discover where all the balloons were would win $40,000." A team from MIT won, using a clever method of sharing the cash with volunteers. MIT let anyone join their team, and they paid money to the members who found balloons, as well as the people who recruited the balloon-finders, and the people who recruited the balloon-finder-finders. For example, if Alice recruited Bob, and Bob recruited Charlie, and Charlie recruited Diane, and Diane found a balloon, then Alice would get $250, Bob would get $500, Charlie would get $1000, and Diane would get $2000. Multi-level marketing meets treasure hunting! It's the Amway of balloon-hunting! - Michael Nielsen
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How the climate change global editorial project came about | Environment | guardian.co.uk - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environ...
Background on the Guardian's climate change editorial project - printed in 56 newspapers in 45 countries, the negotiations behind the project were interesting. - Michael Nielsen
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The Psychology and Power of False Confessions - http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observe...
Disturbing. - Michael Nielsen
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The story of IBM's team of software testers in the 1960s: "Team members began to affect loud maniacal laughter whenever they discovered software defects. Some individuals even grew long mustaches which they would twirl with melodramatic flair as they savaged a programmer's code. And the things they did to software went beyond all bounds of rational use testing and were more akin to software torture. The crazier things got, the more effective the team became. To be clear, the Black Team took all of this quite seriously, and there was nothing akin to camaraderie with the rest of the development team. Programmers had a certain amount of respect for the Black Team, but by and large, they feared them. A member of the Black Team was the last person a programmer wanted to see walking towards him, and more than one programmer was reduced to tears while having his code evaluated by the Black Team." - Michael Nielsen
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Marginal Revolution: Online Education and the Market for Superstar Teachers - http://www.marginalrevolution.com/margina...
Yes: "I have argued that universities will move to a superstar market for teachers in which the very best teachers use on-line instruction and TAs to teach thousands of students at many different universities. " - Michael Nielsen
As a fairly high-touch teacher, I can't say that this prospect appeals. - D0r0th34
I'm certainly not making a judgement about what appeals - I greatly prefer a small-group, high-interactivity approach, all other things being equal. But most big Universities have deliberately moved toward a model where lectures are delivered in a low-interaction way to a large audience. That's an approach where it makes a great deal of economic sense to try to scale to ever-larger audiences, which seems likely to result in a winner-takes-all kind of market. - Michael Nielsen
I'm not sure it was entirely deliberate -- "unmindful" is the word I'd choose. But yes. I just wonder if there's going to be a student/parent backlash at some juncture. Are they really getting what they're supposedly paying for? - D0r0th34
Having talked to a lot of administrators in Australia about this, yes, I think it was deliberate, at least there. A huge chunk of funding comes simply from student-hours taught, and so they try to ramp up numbers as much as possible. - Michael Nielsen
I don't see much evidence of this in the UK but then few UK universities have been effective at putting high quality course materials online or teaching into a wider market - Cameron Neylon
the US certainly has a lot of large-lecture intro courses at big unis, but we have some countervailing pressures to (perhaps?) keep us a little more honest: notably, SLACs, small state schools, and other smaller, high-touch schools. - D0r0th34
Note that some of this is, shall we say, old news. When I attended UC Berkeley (1962-68), undergrad classes were generally either Very Large (200+, frequently 500+), taught by superstar teachers (including most of the Nobel laureates), or Very Small (<40, frequently 20-30), with lots of interaction, taught by combinations of junior faculty and grad TAs. In my fading memory, it worked great...within limits. - Walt Crawford
Caveat: A few too many Very Large classes were taught by faculty who were only superstars in their own minds. But back then, we had Fybate Notes, so 90% of students in the dud courses just read the lectures rather than seeing them "live" (if reading from your own years-old lectures can be considered live). - Walt Crawford
Cameron - How does funding in the UK work? Do Universities get paid per student? If so, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't upward pressure on class sizes, leading to massive low-touch classes where there's not a whole lot of difference between sitting in a lecture hall and watching on a screen. - Michael Nielsen
Dorothea - something interesting about the leading SLACs is their (typically) enormous fees: essentially, you pay for what you get, a nice individualized, personal learning experience. It's a completely different economic model than the massive Universities cramming 500 or 1000 students into a hall, and probably one that's a lot more immune to the kind of thing described in the original post. - Michael Nielsen
absolutely. the small state schools are the compromise option: more individualized than the big schools, less $$$, less breadth of subject matter, arguably less prestige, sometimes less quality (though for the most part I don't agree with that; there's no more deadwood at a small state school than at Big Research U). - D0r0th34
it may be worth remarking that from where I'm sitting, our small state schools are kicking butt and taking names in undergraduate research compared to our two Big Research Us. Coincidence? I think not. - D0r0th34
The model reminds a lot of the MAGIC group: http://maths.dept.shef.ac.uk/magic... "The MAGIC group runs a wide range of postgraduate-level lecture courses in mathematics, using Access Grid videoconferencing technology." - Dan Hagon
I have been arguing for people to stop lecturing altogether: http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog... Lectures in 2009 make no sense. They are a relic of the past. But as lectures disappear, I don't think the role of the "teacher" will also disappear, it will just transform. I hope we will go back to a form of apprenticeship. - Daniel Lemire
Daniel, Amen! - Melanie Reed
Michael, funding is per student up to set maximums, beyond that no more money and there are hard limits annually on how many places are available to bid for. So there is pressure to be efficient and maximise numbers but it isn't open ended. Also very few general courses in UK, most are subject and stream specific so most have relatively small numbers. Maximum I ever taught was 120,... more... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron - thanks for that! It's very interesting, and suprises me. On your last point, the original post was talking about "superstar teachers", and it's clear from context that he meant teachers who are extremely good as teachers, not researchers. (His argument is a standard one in economics about winner-take-all markets like music, sport, etc: superstars with even a slight edge in the... more... - Michael Nielsen
Yes, but you need to create an impression that such people exist and deserve to be promoted first. Which means they need profile, for teaching, outside their own institution. I would guess this is most effectively kicked off by a few "famous" researchers doing some hard work on teaching and then that provides a known niche in which others can also excel. I couldn't name a single person... more... - Cameron Neylon
In the US, Richard Muller has become well known for his course "Physics for Future Presidents", largely off the back of scaling technologies (iTunes etc). When you have the means to scale lectures, it creates a winner-take-all situation, and you expect a market for superstars to emerge. E.g., the record player / gramaphone really helped create the current winner-take-all situation in music, turning it into a far more star-driven market. - Michael Nielsen
My sense of what is happening at UF is rather like Cameron's last comment -- the so-called "superstar" teachers come from the ranks of researchers, not those who solely teach (per their contract -- the "lecturer" position). In fact, greater kudos are granted to researchers who can also teach than are given for teachers who also do research. - Mickey Schafer
Michael, I rather like that notion of scalability...it's interesting and a different way for a teacher to consider "students" -- more in the sense of audience. In my recent conversations with non-academics, it seems that their use of the web is not this far-flung ambient surfing that many who hang out here are accustomed to. Instead, they have "go-to" places; and would prefer that major... more... - Mickey Schafer
The impression of a winner-takes-all situation may in fact be illusive. Clearly there will be popular expositors and the internet gives them a platform to reach a much wider audience than a single lecture theater. However the internet also allows individual learners to ability to consume material very specific to their personal learning interests - possibly far beyond a traditional... more... - Dan Hagon
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Fascinating reflections from a former parapsychology researcher. Goes off the rails in various ways, but still intriguing. An interesting general question to ask oneself is what's the biggest self-deception you've ever engaged in? - Michael Nielsen
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The Encyclopedia of Counterintuitive Thought - http://nymag.com/arts...
Linked mostly because I love the title. It'd make a great wiki project. Instead of notability or neutrality requirements, the requirements for a subject to go in would that it have to be a serious but truly counterintuitive idea. (I did get a chuckle out of "Ann Coulter should be a feminist icon", an idea somebody has apparently attempted to pursue seriously, one presumes with limited success.) - Michael Nielsen
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Build It. Share It. Profit. Can Open Source Hardware Work? - http://www.wired.com/print...
Stimulating article by Clive Thompson about open source hardware. Starts off with Arduino, but eventually branches out, with many fascinating tidbits along the way. I especially like the story about the Linksys router whose firmware was GPL, and thus fair game to be improved by amateurs - and improved it was, turning a run-of-the-mill wireless router into something far more useful. - Michael Nielsen
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Schneier on Security: The Value of Privacy - http://www.schneier.com/blog...
"Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide." - Michael Nielsen
I still think that's one of Schneier's best pieces. - Christopher Granade
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Quantitative analysis of open source projects on SourceForge - Institutional Repository - http://eprints.lincoln.ac.uk/75...
A 2005 analysis of open source projects at SourceForge - the most interesting finding is that by far the most frequently used license is GPL and LGPL - more than 10 times as many projects used GPL as used BSD, for example. - Michael Nielsen
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Jared Diamond: Will Big Business Save the Earth? - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Interesting article by Diamond. Not quantitatively convincing, of course - it's an NYT op-ed - but does challenge much conventional wisdom in the green movement. - Michael Nielsen
Interesting article by Diamond. Not quantitatively convincing, of course - it's an NYT op-ed - but does challenge much conventional wisdom in the green movement. - Michael Nielsen
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Tetris effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
The Tetris effect occurs when an activity to which people devote sufficient time and attention begins to overshadow their thoughts, mental images, and dreams. It is named after the video game Tetris. In the game a player rotates and moves different falling tetrominoes, or shapes made up of four adjacent square blocks. If the player can arrange the shapes so there are complete horizontal lines of blocks without any gaps, those lines are eliminated. The aim of the game is to eliminate as many lines as possible before the shapes ultimately fill the screen. - Michael Nielsen
You can get this about research. Its haunting my dreams, my waking hours, and the time I spend in the bathroom. - Dave Bacon
When I first bought Guitar Hero, I played for something like 6 hours one weekend day. That night, I dreamt of flaming colored shapes flying towards me. Glad I'm not the only one. :) - Chris Miller
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Computational Complexity: The 17x17 challenge. Worth $289.00. This is not a joke. - http://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2009...
Interesting to watch a collaboration develop in the comments on Bill Gasarch's post. - Michael Nielsen
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Meta Institute for Computational Astrophysics - Mica - http://www.mica-vw.org/wiki...
There's a lot of work being done by astrophysicists in virtual worlds, and they're now getting quite organized about it: "The Meta Institute for Computational Astrophysics (MICA) is a professional scientific and educational, non-profit organization based in virtual worlds [VWs] (currently in Second Life [SL], but with an intent to expand its presence in other venues as the VWs evolve)." - Michael Nielsen
When I was an intern at Argonne National Lab in 1995, I was lucky enough to have a couple other interns show me the virtual reality cave in their building. I was able to walk around some molecular structure (don't remember what) and also mingle with and feed simulated fish. It was incredible, and completely obvious to me that it was by far the best way to explore and understand 3-D... more... - Steve Koch
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An interesting attempt to establish a virtual market associated to scientific publications. - Michael Nielsen
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Virtual Laboratories and Virtual Worlds - http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1655
Paper by Piet Hut on virtual labs and virtual worlds. - Michael Nielsen
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The looming crisis in human genetics | The Economist - http://www.economist.com/display...
Stimulating. The essential argument is that genome-wide association studies will fail to deliver the goods linking genes to disease (I'm not so pessimistic: I just think it's likely to be harder than people initially thought, hardly a unique situation in the history of science), but they will cause a whole lot of privacy and genetic screening issues. That is, we'll get the problems without the payoff. Lots of interesting incidental observations, including the claim that replication of genome-wide association studies has been difficult. If anyone has relevant links on that claim, I'd love to hear about them. - Michael Nielsen
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He's Not as Smart as He Thinks | Print Article | Newsweek.com - http://www.newsweek.com/id...
Fascinating article about perceived (vs actual) differences in IQ. According to the article, men on average slightly overestimate their IQs, and women on average slightly underestimate theirs. - Michael Nielsen
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Chromoscope is amazing - view the Milky Way at many different wavelengths. - Michael Nielsen
Cool. I think it is only based on 6 wavelengths and then does a weighted average in between. - Andrew Lang
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Less Wrong: Parapsychology: the control group for science - http://lesswrong.com/lw...
I don't buy this - parapsychologists who consistently get negative results ("still no telepathy") are thrown out of the tribe - but it's intriguing nonetheless: "Imagine if, way back at the start of the scientific enterprise, someone had said, "What we really need is a control group for science - people who will behave exactly like scientists, doing experiments, publishing journals, and so on, but whose field of study is completely empty: one in which the null hypothesis is always true. "That way, we'll be able to gauge the effect of publication bias, experimental error, misuse of statistics, data fraud, and so on, which will help us understand how serious such problems are in the real scientific literature." Isn't that a great idea? By an accident of historical chance, we actually have exactly such a control group, namely parapsychologists: people who study extra-sensory perception, telepathy, precognition, and so on." - Michael Nielsen
Cameron Neylon
I'm going to do a round of looking at some of the Science Social Networking sites again. Is anyone active on ResearchGate, Epernicus etc. and interested in testing functionality?
I'm interested in joining the testing. Need to agree on criteria for comparison before starting, though. - Daniel Mietchen
I'm willing to keep an open mind but so far FF surpasses these in terms of networking and ease of use. But if you want to experiment I have accounts in many of these and I would be willing to try. - Jean-Claude Bradley
I'm really just looking to make sure that things haven't moved on and improved significantly, particularly in the light of the NIH projects. - Cameron Neylon
I tend to migrate to social networking sites based on "pull" - virtually the only time I go on LinkedIn or Facebook is when I get an email alert to something relevant to my interests. I would assume that if there was anything really cool going on in these new sites I would get these alerts generated by actions by you and my other friends. - Jean-Claude Bradley
BTW Cameron - that is one of the issues I'm finding with Wave - I tend not to check it because I don't get alerts that there are updates - is there a way to get an email alert for Wave updates? - Jean-Claude Bradley
Yes, there is an email alerter. I'll add you and it to Wave... - Cameron Neylon
Agreed to the general point though - if there isn't a pull, I'm not going there really. And I think that is a big issue with Wave - people just aren't checking in. - Cameron Neylon
@Jean-Claude I don't think there's currently a way of doing this with the current interface without adding a robot but I saw there's a robot on the Haskell public wave which has similar support http://wave-xmpp.appspot.com/public... - Dan Hagon
I'd be interested in testing (I recently started looking over Epernicus for an article on NGS). Where is the email alerter for Google Wave? Currently, I'm using Waveboard (Mac), which alerts you when there's activity. However, it needs to be running in order to do so. - Walter Jessen
Just added you to a Wave with the email notifier Walter... - Cameron Neylon
New SNS from American Institute of Physics, got email invite today: http://www.aipuniphy.org/ - Andrew Lang
I have accounts on Epernicus, SciLink, Laboratree, and maybe could consider BenchFly a social networking site too, but like JC, I don't go to any sites besides FF and Twitter (and those are typically through 3rd-party apps), not even Facebook or LinkedIn, unless I get some alert. But I would be happy to see if anything's changed in those science-oriented sites I mentioned - Shirley Wu from twhirl
I do get alerts that new people have joined the organic chemistry group in Research Gate but there is no discussion and my questions have not been answered there by anyone so not much motivation to check in. - Jean-Claude Bradley
I have accounts at NN, Epernicus, BioCrowd and SciLink. I have begged for account deletion at the latter for months, to no avail and have not visited most of the others for as long as I can recall. So: active - no, interested - no. It's all FF/Twitter for me. - Neil Saunders
It's alright - this is a benefit of the doubt exercise - making sure that things haven't changed or that we've missed something. My brief look around yesterday suggested that nothing much has but I wanted to make sure I'm not missing something. - Cameron Neylon
What about the criteria for comparison other than some "pull" functionality (which they all seem to have, to different extents)? Does usability boil down to feed import/ export and (hierarchically) threaded conversations ordered by novelty and importance, as at FF? - Daniel Mietchen
When considering the usefulness of the individual platforms, perhaps discipline-specific ones should also be on the list? Besides http://polymathprojects.org/ (maths), these would include, for instance, http://openanthcoop.ning.com/ (anthropology), http://www.apecs.is/ (polar research), or this very life science group at http://friendfeed.com/the-lif.... - Daniel Mietchen
It would be worth doing a compare and contrast - also things like Math Overflow and even some of the chemistry blogs act more like community sites. Seems particularly apposite with respect to Pawel's blog post yesterday about the idea to set up a next generation sequencing community site. - Cameron Neylon
I have a ResearchGate account but don't actively use it. I currently do some FriendFeed, Nature Network (where my blog is hosted) and Google Wave, but mostly Twitter. - Martin Fenner
The last issue (November 23) of the German computer magazine c't has an article on social networking for scientists. They like ResearchGate and Mendeley, but also include ResearcherID, Scholarz (a German network), Nature Network, SciLink and Scientist Solutions: http://www.heise.de/ct... - Martin Fenner
That c't article (which shall come out in some OA fashion soon) may serve as guidance but I found the choice of networks therein rather arbitrary, and the comparison between sites was done on a more general level rather than on the basis of specific criteria. - Daniel Mietchen
The article makes two obvious omissions: a) no mention of CiteULike (or Connotea), b) no mention of the recent $12 Mio social networking NIH grant to U of Florida/Cornell University. There are some more things in it I don't like, so I wrote a letter to c't magazine. - Martin Fenner
Cameron, what criteria were you thinking of using? - Mr. Gunn
Key questions: a) What is the immediate impression on signing up? Is there a pull for people to come back? b) What functionality is being offered? Is it immediately available? How dependent is it on having a network in place? c) Funding model and stability d) User numbers, ideally active users and accounts, but whether we can get those is another question. Those aren't very objective criteria and they are built on my biases but nonetheless - Cameron Neylon
Sorry if this is slightly tangential to the discussion, but I was imagining a new kind of social network for publication of research results here: http://virtualchrisleonard.co.uk/blog... - Chris Leonard
Chris - when you talk about "credit" are you expecting tenure and promotion committees to count it or do you have some other system in mind? If you set something up I have content that might be suitable to play with. As for citability - in our last few papers we have used blog posts and wiki pages as references and have not had any problems with that - so I think the system is quite flexible and can accommodate the types of activities you are proposing. - Jean-Claude Bradley
I think Chris means system credit or karma. The idea as I understand it is somewhere between Friendfeed and Stack Overflow - Cameron Neylon
Thanks Cameron, yes, that's what I meant by 'credit' - however, by quantifying and metricising that credit, there is a possibility that one day tenure and promotion committees may want to use it as another measure of a scientists influence in a field. Apologies to Cameron for hijacking his thread. There is another discussion on this blog post here: http://friendfeed.com/chrisle... - Chris Leonard
That's fine, it's not my thread, it the communities thread :-) Pointers are good, they link up the information. - Cameron Neylon
Blog postings to replace (journal) papers and (in-depth) peer review a luxury that can only be acquired if paid for and to be replaced by blog comments instead? Weakening both readability and certification? That does not sound like a healthy idea. - Wobbler
Wobbler: why should blogs lack any aspect of peer review? the standard of any publication depends on how editorial powers are used - Mike Chelen
...and we already pay for peer review. It just isn't a cost transferred as actual cash. - Cameron Neylon
But blogs do not have any editorial powers? What advantage do blog postings have over (journal) papers? They lack format = lack of consistency = lack of efficiency = lack of scalability. Are you seriously suggesting that blogging/blog posts have the potential to replace journal publishing/ (journal) papers as the primary scholarly communication model/channel? Upgrading the traditional... more... - Wobbler
@Cameron: that's true, but now peer review is at least mandatory for the primary scholarly communication model i.e. scholarly publishing. Replacing that with something else and having peer review only on request/payment is a very different story. - Wobbler
Wobbler - there is a difference between requiring the peer review to be performed before making some information public and allowing it to take place after that. I do not see why the latter option would generally fare worse than the former. In fact, we already practice it here at FF, with numbers of likes and comments roughly indicating the popularity of a topic, while the quality has to be sought in the individual comments (and of course the source item that started the thread). - Daniel Mietchen
... it isn't a cost transferred BY YOU as actual cash. Yet. It should be, in my not-terribly-humble opinion, however, because the market disconnect in the current system has proven ridiculously unsustainable. Wobbler, some of my blog posts have had more measurable impact than anything I've ever written. Sure, it's a lightning-strike sort of thing, and most of my blog posts languish in... more... - D0r0th34
@Daniel: I'm not talking about post-"publication" peer review. That's still different from random blog commentary on blog posts. There's no evidence that what we're doing here isn't just a "niche" thing that works well because we're a niche. There's certainly no consistency in quality in our blog postings (well, at least not in mine :p ). Not to mention a lack of consistency in... more... - Wobbler
@D0r0th34: No, we should absolutely not ignore lighting strikes. But we should see them as lightning strikes and consider them to be an exception more than a rule and focus our attention on something that provides that level of quality more as a rule than an exception. Blogs as a complement to (journal) papers is great. But once you start to see it as a primary source, a replacement for... more... - Wobbler
We don't know about our OA bets. As for slow-and-steady, a well-run blog isn't? Lightning strikes aside, building a reputation and a readership is hardly an immediate thing. - D0r0th34
@D0r0th34: That's one more reason why blogging as the primary scholarly communication model is a broken idea. "Popularity" and "building a readership" will be important for blogs (and other post publication peer review models) to be visible/significant. But aren't we going after journals for using their JIF to attract peeps to read their stuff? How is "blog (poster) popularity" to get a... more... - Wobbler
I think the most important property of non peer-reviewed scientific communication is that the content be easily indexed and searchable. Relying on comments and rankings can be very misleading indicators for utility in long tail systems. For example we get over 100 searches a day for our solubility data via Google and Wikipedia but we have never had a comment or any type of feedback from the people who searched for and found information. - Jean-Claude Bradley
Shrug. System-gaming goes on everywhere; there are a number of studies of citation-impact gaming, if you look. Also, why is connectivity a bad thing? We are talking about scholarly *communication* after all, right? Restricting "what counts" only to what goes through the baroque serials-publishing process is IMO an extraordinarily blinkered and limiting view of how knowledge really advances. Sure, it's not easy to come up with more inclusive views -- but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. - D0r0th34
The problem is that I'm not sure we can talk about "gaming the system" rather than "an intrinsic part of the system that everybody will be forced to play or greatly risk invisibility" when it comes to blogs and other models relying on postpublication "peer review". PLoS ONE is, intentionally or not, already trying to stake their claim on an as large a readership/community as possible.... more... - Wobbler
@D0r0th34: And connectivity can be unfair if your serious/scientific works are getting more attention than others simply because you've managed to draw a bigger crowd through non serious/scientific stuff. On a slightly more personal note: for someone who occasionally complains about the (lack of) readability of (journal) articles, I had expected that you, of all people, would appreciate... more... - Wobbler
I have to say reading down this I am unsure of whether the complaints apply to blogs or journal articles. Consistent structure and copy editing would be nice but it is rare for both blogs and journal articles. Quality is an issue across the board. Going back to peer review - it's only mandatory for the author, refusal rates for reviewers are going through the roof and unless we acknowledge that cost the system will collapse sometime soon. - Cameron Neylon
@Cameron: Consistent structure and copy editing are rare for journal articles? They are? Not entirely sure about copyediting, but surely most, if not all, journal papers have a recognizable structure? And I don't think they're as rare or rarer than for blog postings. I also think the issue is with peer review, and not with the (journal) paper (format). As such, we should find ways to... more... - Wobbler
Of my recent papers, only one received close copy editing by anyone but me. And that was the Nature piece for which to be honest I would have been happier if the editor had got a co-credit. And formats are all over the place - maybe consistent for a single journal but that's not use to me. The costs of both peer review and publication are so high we need to find a way to lower them -... more... - Cameron Neylon
@Cameron: I'm not sure that's a convincing enough argument for me. Maybe your other papers were written clearly enough already? You're a prolific blogger/writer, Cameron. It's not weird to assume that your ability to communicate concepts clearly is higher than the average scholar. Maybe high enough to not warrant copyediting (in a lot of journals)? My impression of journals is that... more... - Wobbler
Well others can pitch in but perhaps a different anecdote. Until I started getting into arguments with Maxine Clarke I didn't even realise that journals might do copy editing. Nature and similar are very different beasts to the average of course. - Cameron Neylon
So, generally speaking, only the high profile/impact journals provide copyediting services? Hmm, that is definitely not what I expected. If you had to estimate the % of journals that provide copyediting services, what % would that be? The (top) 10% of all journals? - Wobbler
I have the same experience as Cameron - the only time my manuscript was copyedited was when I published in Nature - Jean-Claude Bradley
So far as I'm aware, no-one here wants to replace peer-reviewed journals entirely by blogs. Yet that seems to be what you're arguing against, Wobbler. For some functions, journals are a lot better than blogs. But for other functions, blogs are a lot better than journals. At the least, I really can't imagine how, say, DHJ Polymath or Galaxy Zoo or the Open Dinosaur Project or [fill in... more... - Michael Nielsen
Most of this is as a response to an FF comment by Chris Leonard on the 23th of November in this thread, who is arguing for exactly that. - Wobbler
Cameron, any progress on the roundup? Is there any information I can provide from Mendeley? - Mr. Gunn
Right - getting there slowly! Have set up a wiki page (ignore the state of the rest of the site I am working on it!) at http://wiki.cameronneylon.net/index... You should be able to login with openids, any problem give me a yell. I would suggest a week by week schedule to dive into and try and use a specific site, give it a good shot and then report as we go. I... more... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron, what do you mean by "stability" - things like a service being bought/shut down vs. server outages? What about one week to agree on parameters and sites to check? I added data portability. - Daniel Mietchen
I was thinking more of medium to long term financial stability - but technical stability is a good criterion in terms of functionality. Data portability is a good point! - Cameron Neylon
Cameron, I spoke with Drew Endy, Bill Flanagan, and a couple other PIs that use OpenWetWare (Maureen, Pam) last week about the future of OWW. There are two major issues (a) funding and (b) overhauling the platform. I think funding will work out, if we can figure out what is the best way to do (b). Bill and Drew have some good ideas at this point, but in my gut I think we're still not... more... - Steve Koch
I guess my easy question for everyone who's familiar with OWW: Do you think with the resources we have (one full-time excellent lead developer) we can transform OWW into a killer openscience resource for many more people going forward? One thought that keeps coming to me is that something could be (needs to be) done to tap into the energy of the user base. I.e., obsessed students who... more... - Steve Koch
Another thing that keeps coming into my head since the conference call last week: FriendFeed is quite possibly very similar to what many people need for OpenScience. As far as science goes, we generate information from all kinds of different sources (Machine-specific data; gel photos; microsoft word; evernote; scratch paper; blogging; etc.). This needs to be aggregated and shared in a... more... - Steve Koch
Oh, and to clarify a bit: I don't want to replace FriendFeed with OWW. I want to use the FriendFeed model as a starting point for the new OWW. As an OpenScienceAggregator / Networking tool. As others have pointed out, much of the value of friendfeed is that it's not limited to scientists generating data. - Steve Koch
Steve, that's a great way of asking the question. I'd go one step further and say how can we make it the framework in which we can integrate all the other things we do on other services. It's never going to be a no-brainer to move from what you use to something else - there is always the simple problem of the activation barrier to change - its a question of the balance. But my guess is... more... - Cameron Neylon
Cameron, I agree with you exactly: I don't want people to switch, and indeed I want to think "one level above." Do you think there's a real possibility for doing that? - Steve Koch
If we could coordinate a series of activities and get proper funding then yes. Quite a lot of interest in the pieces of this (including the grant I'm currently rushing to finish), Chris's ideas further up this thread, OWW obviously, Mendeley/Citeulike/Zotero. But coordination is the hard bit - and getting agreement that its what enough of us want. Do I think we have a clear idea of what... more... - Cameron Neylon
Should we include some discipline-specific ones or are we going for general-purpose only? - Daniel Mietchen
Michael Nielsen
Fact-Checkers and Certified Public Logicians Boing Boing - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
"I have wondered for years, as magazines, newspapers, and other news organizations have been hemorrhaging money and employees, why someone hasn't gone into the contract fact-checking business. Like, it could be an extension of Snopes.com. There's a huge redundancy in every publication having their own research desks, so they could lay off all of their fact-checkers and then outsource the job to the new, independent company that the best of them then all go to work for. Meanwhile, the company could also be hired by anyone else. Then, when the public sees the "Fact-Checked by MiniTrue (SM)" seal on someone's independent blog, they know the information there has the same credibility as the big boys." - Michael Nielsen
Interesting - there was a related piece in the Boton Globe last week - http://tinyurl.com/ygpqxn7 - Candy Schwartz from twhirl
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World's First Automobile Accident - Ohio History Central - A product of the Ohio Historical Society - http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry...
"In 1891, James William Lambert was involved in the first automobile accident in world history. The accident occurred in Ohio City, Ohio. Lambert's vehicle -- the first single-cylinder gasoline automobile, which was carrying Lambert and James Swoveland, hit a tree root, causing the car to careen out of control and smash into a hitching post. Injuries from this accident were minor. Lambert proceeded to patent over six hundred inventions, mostly affiliated with the automobile industry. " - Michael Nielsen
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Is Google Making Us Stupid? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
The Wikipedia article on Nicholas Carr's well-known article. Something I find fascinating is how good the Wikipedia article is - maybe Google is making us stupid, but Wikipedia certainly isn't. - Michael Nielsen
Michael Nielsen
Marginal Revolution: The decentralization of science, including climate science - http://www.marginalrevolution.com/margina...
An insightful take on the CRU climate hack. - Michael Nielsen
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Beautiful video showing Second Life. - Michael Nielsen
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How I Hire Programmers (Aaron Swartz's Raw Thought) - http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog...
Much more interesting than the traditional approach, which seems to be a hybrid of the Microsoft and Google approaches. - Michael Nielsen
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