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“Anybody have favourite examples of pictures, videos, etc, to demonstrate the value of reuse and remixing?”
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Some favourites of mine: "Us" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...; "Women in Art" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...; Homer's "Illiad" and "The Odyssey". - Michael Nielsen
The above examples are all videos or prose. While I'd love to have more examples from those media, I'm also looking for pictures, so if anyone knows some, it'd be much appreciated! - Michael Nielsen
Eva cut a video a while back, not sure if this is what you're looking for http://vimeo.com/1299570 - Jim Hardy
Thanks, Jim - I meant reuse / remixing in the Creative Commons type sense. - Michael Nielsen
Not exactly what you're asking for but closely related - a search engine for Open Access text and, importantly, images: http://biosearch.berkeley.edu/ . - Daniel Mietchen
Um, I think Jim actually meant the correct type of "reuse" - I made the video (which just happened to be about another type of reuse) using Creative Commons-licensed photos and music by others. One of the music fragments came from this guy, who has a section on his page listing works that use his music: http://www.bradsucks.net/music... (goes straight to the section with remixed works) - Eva
Eva - Hah! I commented too quickly. - Michael Nielsen
My favorite is still the Dubya/Tony Blair one. Is it still around? - Deepak
Deepak - I didn't see that. Link / description? (Google returns about a million hits, most of them not relevant, of course.) - Michael Nielsen
mine too Deepak, here ya go:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Graham Steel
It's a classic Michael that Lessig used at TED:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Graham Steel
Great, Graham! Thanks for the link! - Michael Nielsen
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Science 2.0: Andrew Lang posted a message
“I just created a page on Open Notebook Science on wikipedia:”
Saturday at 9:05 am - Link
Very cool. I added a bunch of open notebook scientists. - Michael Nielsen
@Andrew if you haven't already, make sure you check out all the info on the Open Data page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... - Richard Akerman
Richard, I used that as a template ;) I was looking for a page on open notebook science in particular and didn't find one, so I created one. Everyone feel free to add their contribution, I am not the expert. - Andrew Lang
Very nice - Deepak
Just added some material :) - Deepak
Be aware that this did exist before and got deleted by the powers that be. I think we've got a much greater case for it now but we need the set of references to the term in the 'real' media to hand when the editors come by... - Cameron Neylon
@Cam: I have been collecting such references here: http://www.simpy.com/user/senn... -- v. small collection so far, perhaps we could use this room to collect more? - Bill Hooker
@Cameron Ah I thought this had existed before, I wasn't sure whether I had imagined that or not. I actually did a few searches to see if I could find a deletion log but nothing showed up. - Richard Akerman
Jean-Claude will know but I think he originally put a page up about 12-18 months ago. Then it go redirected to 'Open Data'. I'm wondering how best to go about writing the article though - as I understand the Wikipedia guidelines both JC and I would be seen non-objective observers - is it better for us not to write any of it? Or restrict ourselves to the discussion page? - Cameron Neylon
@Bill - Jean-Claude also has a google search for 'open notebook science' piped through to an RSS feed I think which should capture a lot of the general media references. - Cameron Neylon
I think if you stick to your guns on the topic, add references, especially anything in mainstream media and/or with a DOI, you have decent start - Deepak
I agree with Deepak that referencing the hell out of a new Wikipedia page is a good way to manage the inevitable assault from the Notability Police. - Richard Akerman
Thanks Andy and everyone with helping out with giving this another try! Cameron is right - I tried a while back and it got redirected to Open Data. As Tony reminded me a few months back this is a good time to do it - Jean-Claude Bradley
Richard/Deepak - yes references are crucial - I added one to an early Precedings document. I think the criticisms portion is very important to give a balanced view - based on the meeting in Southampton maybe Jenny could contribute to that - what do you think Cameron? - Jean-Claude Bradley
@Cam: I think it is appropriate for you and I to add the odd link or make a correction but it would certainly be best if the article were built up by true crowdsourcing. We can certainly try to use the discussion more than just direct edits. - Jean-Claude Bradley
@Jean-Claude I hadn't thought about that - probably helps NPOV and any perceptions of boosterism to include critiques or issues. I'm sure there must be a few writers who think open science is total bollocks... :) - Richard Akerman
@Andrew I suggest you use a Wikipedia citation template for your references, it adds some nice features. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... - Richard Akerman
Richard - hopefully we'll get some rational points made - no surprises there: fear of scooping, IP, limitation of publication in some peer-reviewed journals, etc. - Jean-Claude Bradley
Yep, it has to be a well rounded piece, but perhaps with enough material and a list of events where it has been discussed, it will stay there - Deepak
The deletion warning is up on the talk page... - Richard Akerman
In future, perhaps have a more complete article in draft before going live. It seems they're not keen on preliminary articles which sit there a few days without activity - understandable really. - Neil Saunders
I have a list of articles referencing ONS and some of my talks (sorry no hyperlinks yet but I'll add them) - http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Hi Andrew, wikiversity is perhaps a better place to start such things (no deletomanics there), and a scaffold similar to yours is already available at http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki... . Besides, there is also Citizendium where stubbyness is no problem, since they basically only care for approved articles, quality-wise. - Daniel Mietchen
Wikipedia guidelines are that new articles get 7-10 days to be filled out. This article was created 3 days ago, so the request for deletion is premature. On the other hand, more content and references do need to be added with some haste. - Michael Nielsen
Our deletionist appears not to care what the Wikipedia guidelines say. Charming. - Michael Nielsen
What about starting out with a section at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... that could later be turned into an extra article? - Daniel Mietchen
I just added an "open" paragraph to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... . - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel, great and I just linked it to the Open Notebook Science page. If everyone could take five minutes RIGHT NOW to add a sentence or two to the open notebook science page I think it would stick because they look at how many people edit it and where they edit it from. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... - Andrew Lang
Just got this from the discussion page, thanks to Michael for spotting that: "We have experts in our group who could write an introduction but we have been worried that that may appear self serving and wanted the article to be created exclusively in a crowd-sorcing type manner. Would you mind if the intro was written by an expert in the field rather than someone who is let's say more objective? Romney (talk • contribs) 17:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC) I understand what you mean. This isn't the same thing as someone who founded a company or other organization posting information about his own operation. There is no reason why experts can't write an article, and in fact I think that's ideal. There's no policy preventing you from writing what you already know. The important thing is that it all be verifiable from neutral third-party sources. I do understand that it can be tedious to identify arms-length resources to cite for material you're able to write out of your own head. But that's the nature of the beast. Yo - Andrew Lang
I'm not good at editing Wikipedia, and no time to figure it out right now, but here's a link from Scientific American that you can use as reference. http://www.sciam.com/article.c... (Also, I *kind of* agree with the Wikipedia editor that there has to be at least *something* on the page before making it public. In other words, start with just an intro, and don't add headers like "Criticism of Open Notebook Science" until you actually *have* something for that section. - Eva
thanks Andy - based on that I've continued to directly edit the wiki - thanks to everyone contributing - this thing is taking shape - Jean-Claude Bradley
Eva - that sciam article is part of my list - we'll just keep adding them in appropriate places http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=... - Jean-Claude Bradley
In the process of editing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... , I moved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) , arguing that this kind of transparency applies equally well to the sciences. This received opposition. Please join the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) . - Daniel Mietchen
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Monday at 12:45 pm - Link
A FriendFeed Room for Open Access Day, October 14. - Michael Nielsen
Via Graham Steel. - Michael Nielsen
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Monday at 8:46 am - Link
Bowkett's RubyFringe presentation. People either loved or hated it,with most loving it. I haven't watched it yet - this is bookmarked for later watching. - Michael Nielsen
Just watched it. Very interesting presentation style. Main body starts 6 mins 50 seconds in, and I recommend starting there unless you're a Ruby geek (like me). - Michael Nielsen
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Monday at 8:48 am - Link
The text for Timo's superb presentation about the future of scientific publishing at the recent Science in the 21st Century Workshop. - Michael Nielsen
I really enjoyed watching Timo's talk at 'Science 21st' so great that he's taken the time/effort to make this available in this format. - Graham Steel
I found the comments on this especially fun to read. - Michael Nielsen
It's interesting how Timo's impactful Keynote slides lend themselves to repurposing as a blog posting - it's a good example of the user as a content creator - the presentation isn't just a fixed event in time to a single audience, it continues on as video and blog post, reaching a much broader audience. - Richard Akerman
Richard, it's an excellent approach. Never quite thought about that before. Tells a story - Deepak
I like this guy, even if he is Teh Enemy (though Nature is less the enemy than some). Sensible dude who is seeing reality and being thoughtful instead of knee-jerk about it. I wish all publisher types could be him! - Dorothea Salo
Timo is cool and the next time I see him, I hope to say more than just "Hi". - Graham Steel
Extremely clueful. - Andrew Perry
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Monday at 9:55 am - Link
Superb. Many choice quotes, including this one: "If scholarly infrastructure can be upgraded to encourage maximal spontaneous participation, then we can expect not only an increasing availability of materials online for algorithmic harvesting — articles, datasets, lecture notes, multimedia and software — but also qualitatively new forms of academic effort. " - Michael Nielsen
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Monday at 9:39 am - Link
"argues that the key to Athens's success lay in how the city-state managed and organized the aggregation and distribution of knowledge among its citizens. Ober explores the institutional contexts of democratic knowledge management, including the use of social networks for collecting information, publicity for building common knowledge, and open access for lowering transaction costs. He explains why a government's attempt to dam the flow of information makes democracy stumble. Democratic participation and deliberation consume state resources and social energy. Yet as Ober shows, the benefits of a well-designed democracy far outweigh its costs." - Michael Nielsen
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Monday at 9:37 am - Link
There are some significant caveats (read the whole thing!), but the thrust is: "When you submit an article to an APS journal, we ask you to sign our copyright form. It transfers copyright for the article to APS, but keeps certain rights for you, the author. We have recently changed the form to add the right to make ‘‘derivative works’’ that reuse parts of the article in a new work." - Michael Nielsen
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Complexity: The Emerging Science at the Edge of Order and Chaos
October 2 at 6:56 pm - Link
Absolutely loved this when I read it as an undergrad. - Michael Nielsen
@Michael, based on that, I'm going to order this one. Been looking for a new book. - Ricardo Vidal
wow - that's going back some way - highschool for me I think - Cameron Neylon
This is apparently required reading at Columbia's business school for one of their classes on doing business on the Internet. - Hilary
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A New Kind of Science
October 2 at 6:56 pm - Link
I'd really advise borrowing this first, rather than buying it. Some of the endnotes are interesting, but the main text is very skimmable. - Michael Nielsen
Thanks for the tip. - Danielle Fong
I second Michael's comment. But it does make a really really good door stop! - Dave Bacon
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October 2 at 10:26 am - Link
Quoting Jim Gray in 2002: "Most scientific data will never be directly examined by scientists; rather it will be put into online databases where it will be analyzed and summarized by computer programs. Scientists increasingly see their instruments through online scientific archives and analysis tools, rather than examining the raw data. Today this analysis is primarily driven by scientists asking queries, but scientific archives are becoming active databases that self-organize and recognize interesting and anomalous facts as data arrives. " - Michael Nielsen
This is a really idealistic view, because you have to be past the garbage in, garbage out problem for that to work. - Mr. Gunn
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October 2 at 9:52 am - Link
A stimulating talk by Timo Hannay about Science 2.0. - Michael Nielsen
Thanks for posting the audio. I tried attending via SL, but it was a complete bust for me. Now, I can listen to the talk. - jokrausdu
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October 1 at 4:34 am - Link
A great deal of useful information about both campaigns. - Michael Nielsen
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September 29 at 2:49 pm - Link
xkcd does "Powers of Ten". Very cool. - Michael Nielsen
How long did it TAKE him to work that one out? - Dorothea Salo
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Falcon 1 - Flight 4 - September 28, 2008
September 29 at 10:35 am - via Reshare - Link
Gives me goose bumps. Via Tim O'Brien - Michael Nielsen
Elon Musk, the founder of Space-X is my example of < 40 yrs old entrepreneur.... :-) ... well as everything, I see open-source space exploration too.. - Ntino
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September 29 at 9:57 am - Link
Tonight, near the Brick Brewery in Waterloo: "Dev House Waterloo is an event giving programmers and designers the opportunity to meet other creative people and learn from each other - whatever the topic may be. You can bring an idea, or a project you've been working on, and present it to the group for feedback or help. Bits will be flowing (wifi is provided), projector will be available, food will be served, and space is provided by AideRSS." - Michael Nielsen
I'd be there, but my sister is arriving from Australia tonight. It should be a great event! - Michael Nielsen
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September 29 at 9:55 am - Link
A clever way to test for bias: "Groeling collected two different data sets: in-house presidential approval polling by ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX News and the networks’ broadcasts of such polls on evening news shows from January 1997 to February 2008. Groeling found that, with varying degrees of statistical significance, CBS, NBC and ABC showed what Groeling calls a pro-Democrat bias. For instance, CBS was 35 percent less likely to report a five-point drop in approval for Bill Clinton than a similar rise in approval and was 33 percent more likely to report a five-point drop than a rise for George W. Bush. Meanwhile FOX News showed a statistically significant pro-Republican bias in the most controlled of the three models Groeling tested: its Special Report program was 67 percent less likely to report a rise in approval for Clinton than a decrease and 36 percent more likely to report the increase rather than the decrease for Bush." - Michael Nielsen
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September 29 at 9:38 am - Link
Useful discussion of the last 30 years of data on global temperatures. - Michael Nielsen
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September 27 at 6:01 pm - Link
An excellent summary of an excellent book. - Michael Nielsen
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September 26 at 4:59 am - Link
"I hit upon the idea of outsourcing my lecture to the students — crowdsourcing it, wikifying it, though they didn’t get to choose which part of the lesson they were to teach which would really be required for true wikification. I assigned each student one test and one problem using that test. They had 10 minutes to study their test and figure out their problem. Then they each presented the test with its demo problem." - Michael Nielsen
Via Deepak. I rather like the idea of assembling lecture notes this way, as well. - Michael Nielsen
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September 25 at 6:33 pm - Link
"Almost anything else except attention can be manufactured as a commodity. Luxury goods are only luxuries temporarily. They quickly are counterfeited and commodified. Premium brands are only premium because they garner a surplus of attention. Maintain an incoming flow of attention and money will follow. That is really all you need to know." - Michael Nielsen
The money may flow to the where the attention flows ... but the profit is only made when you don't pay too much for getting the attention (as advertisers would be acutely aware). Interesting that Google is used as an example here ... running all those servers and smart engineers can't be cheap, at least at the moment the attention->money that it brings still seems to pay off. - Andrew Perry
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Tim O'Brien posted an entry on Discursive
September 25 at 5:05 pm - Link
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Science 2.0: Bill Hooker posted a link
September 24 at 8:41 pm - Link
won't let me in! - Bora Zivkovic
me neither - Deepak
the irony :) - Neil Saunders
Ah, bugger, I reshared this from a google search that I have set up as an imaginary friend. Apparently imaginary friends are in our heads only and can't be shared! Direct link: http://fatknowledge.blogspot.c... - Bill Hooker
I had to like this, given Bill's story about how he posted. - Michael Nielsen
Good to understand that about the interaction between invisible friends and resharing. I was under the impression that resharing made it yours and thus visible, but that explains why my reshared entries don't get much in the way of comments. - Christopher Granade
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September 25 at 4:32 am - Link
Crowdsourced art project - a US 100 dollar note, image created by 10,000 people at Amazon's Mechanical Turk. - Michael Nielsen
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September 24 at 6:47 am - Link
Gunther Eysenbach post - Jean-Claude Bradley
Very interesting. Looks a bit unwieldy in the post, but like a move in an potentially useful direction. - Michael Nielsen
I haven't used WebCite yet - just bookmarking this for future use - maybe another good way to give DOIs to proposals and other short documents not suited for Precedings - Jean-Claude Bradley
now I've used WebCite - I can see how this could be useful, especially since it gives you a formal author list http://www.webcitation.org/5b6... - Jean-Claude Bradley
well hold on - I don't seem to be able to extract out the author info from that link... - Jean-Claude Bradley
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September 24 at 4:32 pm - Link
A report prepared for the Australian Federal Minister of Innovation, Kim Carr. It contains extensive recommendations related to the need for a more open scientific system, especially pages 93-98. I was pleased (and surprised) to see my essay on the future of science quoted. Via Joshua Gans. - Michael Nielsen
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Chad Orzel posted an entry on Uncertain Principles
September 24 at 7:07 am - Link
Explaining Relativity to my dog. - Chad Orzel
As always, I appreciate your dog physics posts. I'm looking forward to your book. - Christopher Granade
There's books for dummies, books for idiots... maybe there's space in the market for a complete series targetted especially at dogs? - Michael Nielsen
On the Internet, no one knows your dog is a physicist? - Richard Akerman
I love the post category: "Physics with Emmy" - Michael Nielsen
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September 24 at 11:39 am - Link
Favourable remarks on open access from Innovation Minister Kim Carr. Strangely clueless remarks from UniQuest managing director David Henderson, who seems to think that open access publication makes the results of research impossible to patent. - Michael Nielsen
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Cameron Neylon posted an entry on Science in the open
September 23 at 1:04 pm - Link
I agree that Sergey's (and rich followers) cases will change the landscape of biomedical research, but I'm not that sure it's a good thing at all. To me it could just increase the discrepancy between the rich and the rest of the world (PD is not the leading cause of death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... and if I understand the disease correctly, ca. 40% of countries don't have life expectancy long enough to develop first symptoms). - Pawel Szczesny
That's fair - but I think the question is how do you actually harness that wealth to do good rather than just getting upset about inequality per se. This is why I find Health Commons so exciting - what if the cost of developing a drug for an NTD drops to $1M - how many people looking for a legacy could then do something about it - and not just SB and Bill Gates - Cameron Neylon
My point wasn't about inequalities per se - I'm little worried about possible impact such change in the landscape of biomedical research may have on the developing cures for other diseases (because researchers will follow the money, few hundred billionaires can start to shape medical sciences). Health Commons is indeed a great idea and I'm looking forward to see any first prototype. - Pawel Szczesny
I think the impact of a few hundred billionaires in practice is pretty limited against the NIH budget - which is pretty much obsessed with first world concerns as well. The really very very rich are actually probably more likely to fund global priority issues; they seem more concerned with their legacy than with todays stock prices - which might worry the merely very rich - see Bill Gates, Google.org, shuttleworth foundation...overall I think it is nett positive but I agree there are risks - Cameron Neylon
Cameron - I disagree that the impact of some billionaires will be small against the NIH budget. Large centralized agencies like NIH have inevitable biases and blind spots. Even relatively small research efforts from a fresh outside perspective can sometimes have a huge impact. (These are points I'm borrowing from Eric Weinstein and Lee Smolin...) - Michael Nielsen
Michael, thats fair - I guess I meant that I don't think they will distort the whole of biomedical science - although they could easily distort research around specific diseases and biological systems. But I don't think they will take attention away from third world disease any more than it already was what I was trying to say. - Cameron Neylon
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