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My first photo from @chasejarvis' iPhone app: http://bestc.am/7hJ appropriately enough of little Ryan waking us up this morning. Hungry!
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Edvard Munch would be envious.
- Jeff Guin
Hey, a belated congrats!
- Michelle
Great photo... and a belated congrats from me too! That app looks pretty cool by the way.
- Darin aka iGoByDoc
Facebook Envy? MySpace Open-Sources Recommendation Framework - http://mashable.com/2009...
Too bad it is built in ColdFusion. That's like hosting a club in Latin.
- Michelle
seconding @davedelaney's "nice!" to @marshallk's recommendation of www.tungle.com to help schedule meetings
I will have to re check this out, didn't fall in love the first time!
- Andrew Hyde
I've yet to figure out how to make scheduling easy. it's like i don't even try because i'm just waiting for the de facto awesome product that uses APIs to push/pull from Facebook and what not. It's amazing how many events I forget.
- Michelle
As Whole Foods Boycott Grows on Facebook, Brand Perception Drops - http://mashable.com/2009...
Caio Cesar liked this
I still don't understand how Mackey's plan on WSJ is mutually exclusive w a public option. What he proposed was actually quite sensible and would indeed stimulate competition among insurers, which was Obama's goal to begin with.
- Michelle
RT @rackspace: Last Friday's Rock, Paper, Scissor contest @Rackspace had a surprise entrant: a job candidate [vid] http://www.youtube.com/watch...
![RT @rackspace: Last Friday's Rock, Paper, Scissor contest @Rackspace had a surprise entrant: a job candidate [vid] http://bit.ly/Jj8kX](http://img.youtube.com/vi/RG-wx4vY1so/2.jpg "RT @rackspace: Last Friday's Rock, Paper, Scissor contest @Rackspace had a surprise entrant: a job candidate [vid] http://bit.ly/Jj8kX")  |
Eran Even-Kesef, Rob La Gesse and Robert J Taylor liked this
I posted this video, but am not the organizer of the event -- this is a genuine look within the "work hard, play hard" culture at Rackspace. I happened to capture this event -- with the cool twist -- on my iPhone. Great place to work, better people to know.
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
Not sure about my R/P/S prowess, but I challenge you all to ping pong.
- Michelle
Mike Arrington interviewed me and Paul Buchheit, co-founder of FriendFeed, on Sunday. Here's the interview: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Thomas Power, Cathryn Hrudicka, Mark Evans and 19 other people liked this
he cut you a lil short there Scoble...rather rude :)
- Zee.
It's entertainment.
- Robert Scoble
Is Buchheit a multi-millionaire?
- Mark
Mark: yes. He was an early employee of Google.
- Robert Scoble
I wish Arrington spoke more about the technology rather than the numbers. I felt the same frustration at Le Web. I'm curious as to what will happen to this platform as well as what, if anything they can reveal about plans with Facebook.
- Michelle
What did you guys make for brunch? - just curious
- Carolyn Wood
Carolyn: it was a catered affair. I had some watermelon, a muffin, and a couple of eggs.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
he needs 2 go back 2 the iPhone(myTouch doesn't do a gr8 job @recording)... couldn't hear much of the interview... though the powerset guys were loud and clear
- @RelativeTheory
Oh my this video of Hitler discovering FriendFeed's sale to Facebook NAILS it. Hillarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Whoever did that was on FriendFeed a long time. Appreciate all the humor!
- Robert Scoble
We still have Plurk, ha!
- Michael Ryan
This was originally form Mark Trapp: http://friendfeed.com/itafrom...
- Matt Mastracci
F'ing fabulous!!
- Larry Hawes
Plurk is just as worthless, especially with the hole Karma Bullshit.
- Matt Ruiz
Thank you, thank you: I'll be here all week! Be sure to tip your waitress; try the veal!
- Mark Trapp
The inside jokes are great, was LOL this morning.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Abso-effing-lutely hilarious :-)
- Ritesh Lal
Damn.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
"We still have Plurk" haha
- Patrik Johansson
I have seen this vid with so many different sub titles, and its always hilarious.
- Jordan Patterson
OMG! Great!
- Jason Miller
"We Still Have Plurk!" Hahahahahahahahha!
- Hugh McCallion
Hysterical! (At first I thought this (FB swallowing FF) was bad for Twitter - but maybe Twitter will end up the real winner. (Such a depressing thought.)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Laughed so hard I cried.
- Erica OGrady
If FriendFeed got big independently, you would have FriendFeed spam just like you get poked or you get trash messages on Facebook. It's the nature of the beast.
- Michelle
Thanks for the humor. I needed to laugh today.
- Jeunelle Foster
Mark, I forwarded this to a friend - film school graduate, not a Friendfeed user. He loved it. Great job.
- John Craft
Ahahah excellent !
- Jacque
this meme never gets old
- Victor Barriga
hahahah
- Sinan İŞLER
Hahahaha!! That is hilarious!
- zephyrlily
Had a nice 2.5 hour convo with @guykawsaki. He's refreshingly honest and open about being a business man (which means he's looking for the business opportunity). He told me he doesn't get Friendfeed, writes his own books and blogs, and only uses Ghosts for tweets. He showed me how he uses objectivemarketer.com to "Blast" out tweets to alltop.
Rich Nadworny, AJ Kohn, Thomas Power and 17 other people liked this
We exchange advice, I gave him some advice on what I'd like to see from Alltop (more filtering) and he gave me some career advice, which I'm certainly taking to heart.
- Jeremiah Owyang
We also discussed different companies, trends, and how the industry is changing. The he ran off to hockey practice.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Very interesting in Objectivemarketer, not so much in "blasting" tweets, but scheduling them and tracking them, yes!
- Kami@SeaWorldSA
Only 2.5 hours?
- Peter Mullen
I see how he gets himself out there, but how does he listen? It seems like you'd miss all the opportunities by not listening to what people say on the web. I'm sure he has some methods, e.g. employees as filters.
- Michelle
Thank you JO for tweeting the summary of your chat with Guy, thus role modeling a collective intelligence practice worth replicating: connecting our conversations by linking 1-on-1 chats into the tweetstream.
- George Por
Guy is really cool :) Great to hear that you both are talking /sharing (2 bright minds I respect a bunch)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Guy is cool like that (as are you, Jeremiah)
- Jesse Stay
Michelle; I think he uses a person to ghost his tweets, her name is escaping me at the moment.
- Kami@SeaWorldSA
Neenz is one of the ghosts, there a hanfdul
- Jeremiah Owyang
I stopped listening or paying attention to anything Kawasaki a while ago. He is a symbol of an era whose time has passed I think. No fresh ideas there.
- Brian Sullivan
Guy should get FF he hasn't left time to surf in his life he loves field sales too much know the feeling
- Thomas Power
The anti-community list - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Word of mouth always seems to be the key to these things.
- Steve Farnworth
I wish people paid more attention to the substance rather than the numbers. If FriendFeed or any of these services did that, all of social media would be the better for it.
- Michelle
Also, someone can have 50k followers who don't pay attention, or 2k followers who follow every word. That never gets taken into account.
- Michelle
I totally agree with Robert about that list being useless. When I was new to friendfeed, I followed a number of people that were suggested...then later unfollowed them because they were just dumping and not participating. If I want all their twitter activity I can follow them on twitter. Don't need to do it on here. And I can subscribe to their blog feed in an RSS reader. Don't have to...
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- April Russo (app103)
I like following people that make comments or add content that I like.
- Robert Freeze
a suggested user list for want of a better title is useful to the new user coming to the game. Trying to pick people to follow without some guide would result in confusion and the loss of many potential users. not everyone comes here as a friend of an existing user.
- Gilbert Harding
from BuddyFeed
I just started using FriendFeed, although I've had my account for a while now, and I don't think recommended users are that useless. When I started using FF, I saw a lot of stuff that the active, recommended users were liking and that help me find other people who were posting quality stuff.
- Cassidy
@Cassidy: When I joined, that list was just a bunch of people that were dumping their twitter & blog feeds and not liking or commenting on anything. And it was pointless for me to comment on any of their stuff because they never come here to read it.
- April Russo (app103)
I very much like how my passionately-versed "what the hell is this?" comment drove such discussion :D
- Tamar Weinberg
btw, WeFollow was very smartly done because you have to physically add yourself there by sending a tweet. Not all people want to do that.
- Tamar Weinberg
rackspace is very much down right now, too bad scoble didnt just post the content here ;)
- sean percival
I'm not too concerned about FriendFeed's SUL. I think most new people will come here because they know someone here, and will find new people through their friends' networks.
- Bruce Lewis
@April Russo: I guess I got super lucky and followed the right people! I hear what you're saying...
- Cassidy
As a relatively new active user on ff - I completely agree that the ff list sends that message. But I've also noticed that if you spend a bit of time it's easy to overcome that and find the people that ff has organically been building. And there appear to be several that have an audience here that don't anywhere else. can't really say that about twitter too much anymore...
- Bill Kinney
Sean, my slicehost is up - what are you seeing down? We had issues earlier but I blame it on database issues.
- Jesse Stay
When I started with FriendFeed, I followed some people that I liked already on Twitter. That led me to other people who post interesting information. I concentrate on the people who post directly here versus the ones that just let their Tweets flow over to FF. I can, however, see that for some beginners a list of suggested users could be helpful. At least until they sort out who they like following, and those people on the list that are not useful or interesting to them.
- Bonnie Foster
ALLTOP Has a similar list. Perhaps the overall list is better but Regionally it seems like you need to be a friend of a friend to qualify. My two cents.
- Kelly Mitchell
I like to stumble over people to follow, that way I follow them for the stuff they put up. I started with Scoble, Gillmor and a couple of others. Moved on from there to follow a couple of others. I now have a nice list of people I enjoy following and I havent unfollowed anyone yet. Has taken me a good while to get here, but I'm happy with my list :-)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
What Robert said.
- Steven Perez
I didn't even know about this list or sight. Such a FF n00b, I am
- Chris Duffy
Even little nuances in the process can make a difference...does FF auto-select (ie, check the checkboxes) when it puts up the first list for new users? (I don't remember...I guess I could create a throwaway account and check). It's the whole "opt-in" vs. "opt-out" issue, and can make a big difference in how SULs end up affecting things. I'd hope that FF makes the suggestions, but leaves the boxes unchecked. (Robert's in good shape either way...who wouldn't want to subscribe to the Hulk?! *grin*)
- Ken Kennedy
OK - so most of us agree the popularity driven list is bad. What would be a good idea to help neophytes? I just started http://XeeSM.com today a social site manager and we will soon have a similar challenge. Any suggestions?
- Axel Schultze
How about allowing tagging of items and just giving everyone a short interest quiz when they sign up and pick people that post that kind of content. Those that don't participate won't have their stuff tagged and won't be offered as a SUL. Blip.fm already does this with music and automatically assigns you a few people to follow based on your tastes in music. The same can be done with all kinds of content.
- April Russo (app103)
There's a reason I follow 100,000 on Twitter and 25,000 on friendfeed: I get to see patterns no one else is seeing. Here's some:
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I saw the Chinese earthquake while it was happening. 45 minutes before CNN.
- Robert Scoble
I see that Bing is gaining steam today.
- Robert Scoble
I saw that people were frustrated on Saturday with CNN.
- Robert Scoble
The Matrix?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: in a way, yes.
- Robert Scoble
I see new software, services, ideas before most other people.
- Robert Scoble
How do you deal with the noise?
- Kevin Lim
How do you filter out all the noise? I find myself constantly unfollowing people to make Twitter more relevant.
- Michelle
I've noticed this effect in just following 40 or 50 more people on Twitter.
- Bill Kinney
And I get to see how they react to news, like Opera's new browser this morning.
- Robert Scoble
The Robert Scoble version of "Google Earth"
- Pete Blackshaw
Big Brother style
- Richard Lai
So that's like "Scoble trends" :) Like Twitter trends, but for emerging events.
- Kirill Petrovsky
Jinx.
- Michelle
Michelle: noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers.
- Robert Scoble
So effectively you start a topic on Twitter, and then use friendfeed as a chat room?
- Richard Lai
i follow almost 60,000 on twitter now and love it. totally agree scoble.
- Jason Pollock
Hoping for some improvements to Tweetdeck groups - just not enough yet
- Kirsten Hamstra
yeah but how do you SEE the patterns, you cannot read them all do you?
- Hans Mestrum
You should be talking about all the spammers on Twitter because that is the trend
- paul mooney
Robert is our filter, we follow robert who sees the patterns and reports it back.
- Ray Slakinski
Here's a hint: I don't always follow 125,000 people. In friendfeed I have lists of only 150 people. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE NOISE.
- Robert Scoble
He has a socket in the back of his head ;-)
- Richard H
Also, in friendfeed I can remove noise by displaying only items that have gotten a like. Like this: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Thank goodness we have you, Robert, to do that, so we don't have to.
- Jason Mayoff
make sense following "likes"
- Hans Mestrum
paul: spammers don't bother me. They add about as much value as people who tell me they had a jelly sandwich for lunch.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Pulver Followers every p0rn site and spammer who Follows him, check his Following list
- paul mooney
paul: here's a little trick: I do most of my following in friendfeed. Why? Better friend management.
- Robert Scoble
I also have issues bc what I have to follow for work is very different from what I want to follow, but that is another issue.
- Michelle
Bill: actually you only need to follow a few people to get a pretty good look at the good stuff. Why? If something is good everyone talks about it.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has gone the way of email, that's why Twitter Search doesn't work - the system is overwellemed!
- paul mooney
Michelle - same issue here! work vs. professional following and juggling multiple accts
- Kirsten Hamstra
paul: it still works for me. I just skip over the spam. My mind likes seeing spam and noise. It helps me see the news.
- Robert Scoble
For the rest of us - just friend Scoble -- you might hear about stuff delayed 5 minutes or so.
- Brian Sullivan
Where do I get one of these neat sockets in the back of my head, I get dizzy just trying to follow 2K people.
- dabitch
All the Twitter marketers are auto-Following the spammers, it's a perfect storm
- paul mooney
paul: in email I don't care about the spam either. I can always scan a page of spam and find my boss' emails for some reason.
- Robert Scoble
reminds me of roy - I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tan Hauser Gate.
- mike "glemak" dunn
Brian: that is true. My like feed at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... is pretty good.
- Robert Scoble
That's why people who don't follow others on Twitter are kinda of missing the point, aren't they? I love seeing when people are being followed by 30,000 people but following 2.
- Curt Mercadante
BTW Robert, props on following the Iran elections. Hopefully this will open our eyes to what has been happening in Egypt, Russia, Pakistan and a host of other countries for decades. If Benezir Bhutto were alive and had been elected like she would have been, we'd live in a different world.
- Michelle
so robert - could you be an android ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Robert: so in a way, if you follows all that people, we actually needs to follow only one person, which is you. here's why: it is most likely that you'll post about the major stuff that you read about in your friends stream - which make you a better filter than any other service around :) (I'm following lots of people too because I simply like to find and read about new and exciting things)
- Orli Yakuel
I totally agree with you Robert. It's like holding your hand into a jet of water and drinking from time to time.
- nik
you need to have the spirit of sharing good stuffs to others, or the good only reaches you but does not spread out.
- K.D.
I cannot get people to join FriendFeed. I even did a video showing them how great it is. I cannot seem to follow that many more on Twitter than 200 and keep up with them. I tried Tweetdeck, but it just used too much RAM for me.
- Hummie
The REAL trick here is that you have a natural gift for scanning with your eyes. I would follow many more people if I could scan (and absorb) information as quickly as you do. Since I don't, I follow you. You are among my first line of defense.
- Bettina Tizzy
All these fortune cookie Tweets are the work of spammers, sooner or later comes the link to the get-rich-quick site
- paul mooney
Robert you are awesome! ★
- weirdchina
@scobleizer I want to see the matrix also... still several K from where you are.
- Robert Freeze
Robert, do you read http://friendfeed.com/public also?
- bnoise
i follow more on ff
- junrxu
Sounds a little like Joey Osmond - Robert I see patterns Scoble? Definitely agree though - there is useful information that can be pulled from the right people's twitter/friendfeed that gives trends developing real time, as long as sea changes over longer periods
- Tom Tubbs
Hmmm, why is http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... faster than http://friendfeed.com/public ?
- Greg Byrne
holy shit robert... i just had my mind blown watching your live friendfeed. this whole time i've been trying to control the chaos... keep people organized into neat piles. wow... wowow
- Eric Nakagawa
You are so right!
- Thomas Chai
@Hummie: I had the same problem with TweetDeck. Try SeesmicDesktop, it has similar functionality but less RAM-greedy
- Ashalynd
Robert do you have a link to the video you did showing 'how' you manage all this information flow? I would enjoy watching it again.
- Matt Perry
here's another interesting search which will show all scoble's friends' items that have at least 1 like: http://friendfeed.com/search... only wish this were realtime
- Mike Chelen
Robert - cool post, excellent comments - same exact reason I embraced FF in early days and stayed here!! Love it
- Susan Beebe
Robert since I have been following you I have done a complete 180 on how I felt about social networking before. I mean the media is fast but social networking works at the speed of thought. Now if I could only figure out how to interact behind the Army & Airforce firewall... I felt lost today at work... LOL
- Nathan McClain
Matt, I think that video is this one: HOw I Read Tweets: http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Orli the problem with only following me is that I need to sleep once in a while and I also might not follow people you care about. For instance, if you are into celebrities and not technology I totally wouldn't be good for you to follow.
- Robert Scoble
we know what I care about and I'm glad that I'm following you! but I got the point, and I agree of course. I was just kidding I guess..
- Orli Yakuel
Great video. Watching it again now...
- Matt Perry
Yeah some wild connections are made by watching a lot more than a few friends. Wonder why most people don't "get" that? Researchers should follow a ton of people and sources.
- Jack Humphrey
Jack: actually, people should do BOTH follow a ton of people and sources as well as follow just a very select group of people. I wish I could share my groups (er, lists of friends) with you all. THEY are going to be the secret to filtering in the future.
- Robert Scoble
I'm lazy. I use your feed as my pre-filtered source of good/interesting general information. Thanks for doing a lot of the hard work for us (or at least me).
- John Meagher
Robert I think you are 100% correct, but it touches on what people should have already been doing, and that's getting as much information as they can from as many sources as they can and putting the facts together for themselves. I think traditional media's days of fact-less reporting are thankfully numbered. This is truly Fair and Balanced!!!
- Nathan McClain
Robert: People still won't get it. Seeing patterns is a talent or a skill. You can aid it, however, by showing or demonstrating how you filter for patterns. How do you scan messages and discern a pattern? How do you focus on a few without missing the patterns of the many? Might make a good presentation/blog. You probably already did it, right?
- Alan Eggleston
I don't think it requires following 125,000 people to be aware of the same trends.
- stretta
stretta: it does not, but I get to see small things that many people don't.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - and I appreciate those "small things" :) --- they look like startups! and new bright shiny tech toys!
- Susan Beebe
imagine an AI system that can analyze all that data for you and generate illuminating reports...
- Matt Jaunich
Matt: I can and lots of geeks are working on building just that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the post. I immediately added the "like" search to my saved searches.
- Sean Powell
I follow 60,000 and I see a white light at the end of a tunnel. It's getting closer...
- Rick
You must do this by o s m o s i s....no other way? Intuition and speeed reading.
- Ziona Etzion
Yeah. Robert, I don't read your stuff and I don't know if you're going to read this. But regardless, I know you're well famed and this is the first thing I skimmed across of yours that would indicate that it's deserved. I follow options in the same way., eg almost literally. I have TD StrategyDesk open right now, ThinkOrSwim, Power E*Trade Pro, OptionsXPress, and the regular TD Ameritrade website open as well. Doing this allows me to view and be ware of data and turning points in many views and levels
- Matt Kaufman
Robert: If you could follow all 100,000+ people from Twitter in real time within friendfeed would you?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Twitter is a helpful automatized hammer for the main engine, which is friendfeed ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I don't see why you couldn't just save a search on everybody's posts with likes on FF though and still follow only those you actually read daily + any protected accts? Even build smarter searches than that. You increase the number of people following you by lots more your way of course.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
Sorry. The trend watching and analytical part would be the same, wouldn´t it, except that I now see that the saved searches don´t update in realtime. Yet.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
No doubt...
- Thor
Nice post :-) Two questions though:
- Patrick Mackaaij
1. What sets apart the 100,000 people you "follow" to glance at once in a while from the everyone feed?
- Patrick Mackaaij
2. (a Friendfeed question): Do you still read this since I posted this comment a few hours after the initial conversation.
- Patrick Mackaaij
How did you find so many people to follow? How does an average user find so many to follow?
- Bas
Patrick: I was on stage and couldn't be on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Patrick: the people I follow are usually much more tech interested and demonstrate early adopted behavior than the larger public audience.
- Robert Scoble
Never mind all this. How's Opera? Got a link this morning and thought I might try it (what a surprise, me trying something).
- Francine Hardaway
This is how I tell other people about Robert: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... and it's how I'm slowly patterning web learning (when I have time to interact and learn)
- Mark Essel
Scoble Earth(TM), Pete Blackshaw? ;)
- Tyson Key
Robert: Is this a Mandelbrot pattern? The chaos has a look, a feel and a taste, as in the jet of water analogy. You're the freakin' hydrologist with the dousing rod.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert: I was not expecting a real time response but was wondering how you keep track of all conversations you engaged with on FF. How can you see where comments are added?
- Patrick Mackaaij
I'm with Robert, just not with such a big of a scale. My point: I am noise and you are noise. Let's not forget there's a baby in that bathwater before one takes a blanket anti social network view of social networking!
- Mike Lewis
Robert, you are a living, breathing supernode, and I thank you for it :-) (Supernodes: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-95...)
- Andy Bold
makes sense 2 me
- Ron Hagenhoff
OMG Robert I agree 100% BEFORE Twitter screwed with the @replies censoring us from seeing all that people tweeted... I could scroll through my home page and get the pulse of the world on Twitter! A beautiful site! Comparatively now: Twitter is silent.
- Arleen Anderson
Robert, I'm having a jelly sandwich for lunch tomorrow. ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
All major television networks/news outlets should hire Scoble and heed this advice based on this weekends events in Iran. They need to learn how to listen, filter and understand how social media can deliver real-time information around the world.
- E-Advocate Network
böring
- yazarcizer
What tools are you using to keep track of the all that flows past?
- Inbox2 Team
Yeah, Robert is an Androïd! Each time I'm gotta 'like' 1 of his entries, comment, or visit links, I ask myself if I'm doing this because he is Scoble! Of course not: it's just because he's always pointing on valuable infos. And this is good for IT stuffs, for early adopters, for business.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
So, Scoble proves that the best search & filter engine is Human. (Nah.. I'm not a 'groupie', never will ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Curt, pple who don't follow others and hope to be followed & heard are obviously wrong. Social Media is not "Ego Media" ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Patrick, IMO Robert uses FriendFeed's search to find infos, & FF's email features to keep track of conversations & updates
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
or maybe you also miss some important ones because of the noise: like the patterns known by 99% of the users that have less than 1000 followers? does that make sense?
- Ouriel Ohayon
isn't that a little too much? do you even have time for anything else? Is it worth knowing about an earthquake some 30-40 minutes earlier than most people than spending some time with your real life friends?
- stefan
Stefan, the point is: if you want to spend as much time as possible with your real life friends, you have to be as efficient as possible during the time you spend in front of the computer. The more information you drink in a short time, the faster you can identify patterns.
- Brome
Best answer I've heard for why I'm also ok with following and listening to a ton of people on various platforms: "noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers. - Robert Scoble"
- Leslie Poston
Wow, that's a clever use of the platforms!
- gareth【ツ】
We need information so we can decide while staying in touch with reality. -> Filtering skills, Good Human filter, Good filter tool (FriendFeed).
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
Thierry: thanks I was looking for that indeed! Have changed my settings to see how e-mail works out there but I thought maybe there would be an easier way...
- Patrick Mackaaij
hey it was great to finally personally meeting you and hung out at the diner ; my weblog about the evening now at http://ff.im/45HR3 plus infos about WE LIVE IN PUBLIC premiering now in L.A. and my new video "PERU" @ http://www.youtube.com/watch... ; all the best for the conference today and building43 ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Another FF question: I was under the assumption FF would merge duplicate imports so that conversations like these would remain in one place. If I do a search on a tending topic of today this does not seem to be the case: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Patrick Mackaaij
Patrick, the imports may be duplicate URLs or pictures or whatever, but the conversation around them could be different. I see this as a good thing, and it show me two things. (1) it is an intersection of the different groups and types of people that I subscribe to. (2) it can be different nationalities in different timezones. Ie, of a more global interest. Bothe are good pieces of data for me.
- Andy Bold
from email
@Brom, yes. but there is only so much information one can absorb at a time. 100.000 twitters and 25 FFs? Even half of it is too much for a normal person to take in that fast. Robert MUST be a robot O_O
- stefan
@Andy: I'd rather not see any duplicate URL's and have the conversation take place in one thread. Google Translate can solve the language problem. But my question at the moment was what the current status is. I see it's already discussed here: http://friendfeed.com/susanbe...
- Patrick Mackaaij
how do I follow thousands of people without clicking follow over and over
- Kyle Weller
Kyle: Use friendfeed and click "subscribe"
- Garin Kilpatrick
Kyle: its still required to click subscribe for each user, but those clicks are well spent, and FF also will show posts from friends-of-friends. another good option is to join some groups for subjects that interest you
- Mike Chelen
Why Mike Arrington @techcrunch really hates FriendFeed:
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He's not on top of Spinnr's list of top 1000 FriendFeeders: http://spinn3r.com/rank... which is explained here: http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
I just wish there were more people on it -- or that it would work with the comments of Facebook and twitter
- Ben Hanten
Arrington also isn't on top on Facebook, either. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Today Arrington has called friendfeed "MobFeed" in a post. But we know the real reason why he likes Twitter better. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
$5 says Arrington comments on this ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Ben: there are no comments on Twitter and Facebook keeps a lot of stuff from leaving its service.
- Robert Scoble
He can't Jesse, no account
- Matthew DeVries
FF is great..... :) I'm sure he'll place high on our list now that there's competition ;)
- Kevin A. Burton
Let's face it besides Twitter interest, he just can't figure out how to use it!
- courtney benson
Ben: I did a survey of about 500 of the top technology industry innovators, influencers, and press. About 85% are on friendfeed already. The question is whether other groups will adopt friendfeed too.
- Robert Scoble
Ben: even more interesting is most of the tech people are on all three services and use them for different things.
- Robert Scoble
I wish that it tied in better with existing services.
- Ben Hanten
What if Facebook gets true real time updates? That would be huge.
- Ben Hanten
They might adopt FF but I think most non super users all getting burnt out on the addition/migration to new platforms.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Ben: I always want more integration too. It's interesting that @ev sees Facebook as Twitter's real competition.
- Robert Scoble
It would be interesting to link FF and Facebook and Twitter accounts
- Kevin A. Burton
build the full complete social graph
- Kevin A. Burton
I'd like to see Pete Cashmore using it more as well.
- Jesse Stay
Kevin: yup! I wish someone would do that. Lots of desktop clients like TweetDeck, Peoplebrowsr, Seesmic Desktop are getting very close to being able to do that. Interesting too that @ev says he doesn't use a desktop client very often.
- Robert Scoble
Ben - You wish what tied in better with existing services?
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, I'm a bit shocked at how personal Mike Arrington took the whole bitchfest that happened after Leo Laporte's blowup. To be honest, I thought the whole thing, and the second phone call with you guys, was very unprofessional. It was enlightening, but not a professional presentation of any kind. I do the same thing sometimes - blow off steam in a public venue. But, it felt very "Real Life." Arrington should have thicker skin for a guy that throws questions and comments around like he does.
- Jason Nunnelley
There was a study released in Canada last week that 74% of Canadians don't even know what Twitter is. Not that we make a huge impact but it will be some time before FF gets any traction here.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
@Robert 1) Ev should see FB as their real competition. Morin threw down the gauntlet last week. And 2) You may be projecting your twitter SUL anger on Arrington, subconsciously? ;-))
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Jason: It's very hard being human.
- Robert Scoble
Ed: you know me too well! It's almost like I share all my thoughts on the Internet or something. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I understand being human. I'm not sure public broadcasts are the place to deal with interpersonal conflicts at work.
- Jason Nunnelley
It is not hard being human. Just hard to accept that that is all we are sometimes... :-)
- Mark Littlewood
Robert, that said. It was GREAT radio!
- Jason Nunnelley
I try hard to become more cyborg-like, but I'm not very good at it
- Jesse Stay
Jason: it sure was, wasn't it? Arrington once told me he's not a blogger, he's an entertainer. Sometimes he pushes his entertainment too hard and he's surprised when it blows up.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: me neither. I wear my heart on my sleeve sometimes and I have learned many people don't like that.
- Robert Scoble
Honestly though, if someone suggests they hope I'll die of cancer I'm going to laugh out loud. Nobody but close friends knows me well enough to really hate me. It's silly, and saying something like that is stupid. If someone says "I hope you die," folks need to get over it and move on. I realize a case or two have resulted in real violent acts, but typically most of us are more sound minded or on our meds :)
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason, imagine if hundreds of people were saying that to you daily. I think it would get to me eventually.
- Jesse Stay
just ran tweetstats on @ev , he does use the web interface and text the most and twitterific third. So web interface + cell interface only
- Kashif Khan
Arrington? Argh! Let's see, where did I put my ePitchfork? Gonna lay all kinds of text up on his retinas...gonna be a real whuppin'. ;)
- Christopher A Carr
Duh. He wants to drive traffic to techcrunch.com, where he gets ad revenue. He gets nothing by driving traffic to friendfeed.
- Michelle
Jesse, no it wouldn't. I'd accept it as part of being high profile or I'd get into another line of work. If a close personal friend said something like that I'd consider it more deeply. But, some troll dumbass on FriendFeed wouldn't get my ire up. I'd think it was an immature child and ignore it. But, I can dish it out. I ask for it sometimes. I don't take anything virtual strangers say about or to me personal.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason well you are doing better at being less-human than I. I wish I were able to take criticism as well as you.
- Jesse Stay
Oh, taking criticism is different Jesse! I just said I don't give a rip what some nobody says about me in cyberspace. It's a value thing. If you're not intelligent enough to express cogent thought I can't be bothered to take notice, let alone close an account or change my behavior due to someone else's mental midgetry.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jesse: For example, I don't think I'd take Leo's FU as lightly if I were working with him. Leo said some pretty rough stuff about Arrington and if I were Arrington I would have needed more than a brief "I lost it." I don't think I'd work with him again. Leo obviously had a lower opinion of Arrington before the conversation started, else it wouldn't have gone that route. Leo made some...
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- Jason Nunnelley
I love how he was able to turn the discussion on a dime from his behavior to the comments of others as "the mob". One or two idiots make ridiculous threats and now it's all of Friendfeed that is the problem? That is not true, if anyone was wondering ;)
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
@Robert "Arrington once told me he's not a blogger, he's an entertainer. " Really?!?! Interesting. He's not that entertaining. FAIL. ;-)
- Jim Oxenford
Kevin A. Burton - came in late to this, but if I post a Link on Facebook, I have FB set up to send it to FF, then I have FF set to send it to Twitter. I had to play around with the setting for a while, to not get multiple posting, but I either got it worked out, or the Apps figured it out for me???
- Gary Etie
Careful, Jim, that's mob talk...
- Christopher A Carr
I'm guessing the point of Robert's post is that Arrington isn't successful on FriendFeed (and when did the Fs get capitalized?). I buy that. That's logical.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason: I was beating @techcrunch on Twitter too, before Twitter did the suggested user list. The fact that Twitter put @techcrunch on the list and not me artificially raised him above me on the list. Facebook and friendfeed don't do that and I'm still kicking his ass on those two places. It does bother him, too. He once told me "I like any list I'm on the top of." So do I. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Jason: sorry, I'm so used to capitalizing company names. It's friendfeed, not FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
But why did Arrington fail here? He didn't mistreat the users, he was pretty well engaged in discussion compared to a lot others in the field. He'd like, he'd come into threads unsolicited to post. He wasn't a Scoble, but I certainly considered him FF-functional. I don't like him, how he works, or his attitude, but as far as fulfilling his side of the FF-contract, he did so in spades.
- Matthew DeVries
@robert and who doesnt lol
- Kashif Khan
Robert, no man they changed it. Look at the bottom of the screen :P
- Jason Nunnelley
Matthew: oh, I didn't even notice that friendfeed is now FriendFeed. I guess they got tired of seeing everyone use the wrong capitalization with it.
- Robert Scoble
it's FriendFeed on the <title> but not in the logo ... I think you can stick with friendfeed :-p
- Joel Bennett
Matthew: I do better in social networks than Mike does because 1. I pimp them hard on my blog. 2. I spend a lot more time on them. 3. I follow a lot more people. 4. I interact with users a lot more on them. 5. I don't see them as a threat to my business model. 6. I talk about them all the time at conferences.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I realize people do things to suit their own interests. But, if Arrington really just hates that he's not performing as well on FriendFeed, he just needs to buckle down and work on it, not puke on the project. It's irresponsible, poor community membership. You are open about why you dis Twitter.
- Jason Nunnelley
This is friendfeed.com? Not friedfeed.com? Damn! I thought something was wrong! All those food posts must have thrown me a curve ball. By the way, did we mention "Because @arrington can't delete all the posts that criticise him or Techcrunch" yet?
- Andy Bold
BTW, you guys talking about Arrington made me just go read techcrunch.com. Great little blip about Hunch.com.
- Jason Nunnelley
Robert - I'm bloody sure you've answered this already somewhere else, just let me know if you have and I'll crawl for it, but you just had a drink with @ev or @biz in the last week haven't you? Did you get a straight (if hard to hear) answer about why you aren't on the SUL?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: I didn't ask. Why not? Cause it wasn't the time/place and because I'm a woosie!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: No judging here, just wondering if you asked.
- Matthew DeVries
Andy: there is no answer that makes sense. At the Twitter Conference that Broback hosted you could tell employees were uncomfortable with the suggested user list. That's because it was wrong to do it and they did it to manufacture followers for their own team and favorite people. There's no escaping that and I did joke around with @ev about that on Saturday night. Plus, the damage is done and all it would do by getting in Ev's face about it is mark me as an asshole.
- Robert Scoble
Abby: yeah, companies like having TechCrunch on their testimonials pages. Now that Arrington has deleted his friendfeed account I wonder how long that testimonial will stay.
- Robert Scoble
Not to piss on your list, Robert, but: Barack Obama at 35?!?
- Steven Perez
Here's the deal. Surely Mike got just as many mob attacks via @ replies on Twitter, but did he shut that account down?
- Stephen Pickering
Why Mike Arrington really hates FriendFeed: because you keep sending Tweets or FFing about him hating it, getting him valuable hits on his websites and accounts. There is no such thing as bad publicity when you're in the gossip, I mean, news biz. ;)
- xero
xero, so so right :)
- Jason Nunnelley
OMG I am that list wow... goose pimples!
- Susan Beebe
Arrington dissed FF during his epic post about Scoble needing "intervention" - he said we "grunt" over here on FF, i defended FF and he apparently never changed his view. Not sure why he doesn't see the value I see in it. Yes, there's a lot of "noise", but there's tons of signal too!! FF does require some skill at constructing lists, searches, filters, etc to properly leverage the db and gleen the goods
- Susan Beebe
xero succinctly nailed it. It looks like a divide and conquer MO to me. TC's standing as a go-to opinion source is significantly affected by the social network/blogging activity orbiting around it. Friendfeed has disturbed that orbit the most, so it gets fired upon the most.
- Micah Wittman
+1000 Xero and Micah - bingo!! LOL
- Susan Beebe
I guess, Micah. Of course, to me, Arrington's opinion and $2 will get me a cup of coffee in the morning, and not much else.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm #84! Nice. (oh wait, we're not talking about me, are we)
- Sarah Lane
Oh I SOoooooo participate more in ff than Sarah dammit.
- Matthew DeVries
I'm #4444 so I'll be sticking with my day job for now.
- Jay Cuthrell
I have never seen Mike engage on Twitter and only occasionally on Friendfeed. Surprised that he would feel slighted. As far as 'the mob mentality' issues go, I think that it's likely that anyone who is high profile will draw a crowd. How they manage that crowd is the question, really, and that's a personal decision, not a fault of the service. Before Friendfeed, it was Techmeme 100....
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- Karoli
Conan is hosting "The Tonight Show." The TV universe is aligning nicely. And we get Andy Richter back! I forgot about that. BONUS!
I think Andy realized his movie career was floundering, plus NBC offered him a lot of money. Oh well, I don't care. He's still funny.
- Michelle
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