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Building a microVC funding company model.
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Brad Nickel
We've stalled, but thats my fault since I was driving. Will get back to this once I can get some other tasks out of the way.
Hao Chen
How does SEC affect the social lending platform?
we need a lawyer in here - Julie Kentwood
I have a couple I can pull in, but if anyone knows anyone in the arena, invite em over. - Brad Nickel
I'm inviting members from - Vincent Wright
J-P Voillequé
Duck, the first lawyer has arrived. I'm well out of SEC stuff since school but will do some digging as time permits.
Fantastic! Thanks. I will think more about how we structure this for everyone as well and bounce off of you. - Brad Nickel
Welcome aboard! - Bill Pennington from twhirl
The model I see is a business that allows small private investors to makes small ($1 to 25k) calls in emerging businesses that have already cleared the angel investor / public offering hurdle. However, the first thing we need to make this happen is a proper summary of the legal issues involved. Kudos to Duck. - Chris
Beautiful! - Mike
Well, I rarely get a chance to poke around in new & emerging company stuff anymore (I'm a half-time general counsel for a small consulting firm - mostly soft IP sorts of things), so I'm at least as happy to be on board as you are to have me...This is a lot more interesting than researching Oregon Administrative Rules around limited-use public swimming pools, which is my other burning assignment at the moment (for my condo's HOA). - J-P Voillequé
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Nice presentation. Thank you for sharing it. - Brad Nickel
I def. would like to be a part of this in some way - Had an idea like this a long time ago but was afraid of the SEC like Aviv mentioned.
At the very least, if MicroVC is looking for as little headache as possible - this can always be done outside of the US. There are plenty of companies in need of seed capital, as well as small investors looking to diversify their portfolio. SEC problem - solved. - Aviv
Excellent points, but I also believe we can easily make ourselves compliant if we do things the right way. - Brad Nickel
That's right. If done properly, there are a few ways MicroVC can operate legally and successfully. In a nutshell, one [rather complex] implementation could be a payment system offering privately-issued digital currencies, each backed by various types of assets (just like how offers accounts backed by gold). For example, this would then allow for a currency backed by... more... - Aviv
Wow Aviv, that is a fantastic concept. I need to think through that a bit more, but believe it makes a lot of sense. Where are you based? - Brad Nickel
Phoenix AZ, and yes - the concept is indeed interesting :) - Aviv
I'll write up some more about it later. I've given this whole thing a lot of thought a few years back and have experience with privately-issued currencies, logistics, etc. - Aviv
I am in Miami, FL. While I believe there is merit in developing this openly, conceptually, I'd still like to have a chat about how to do and structure this. - Brad Nickel
Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel J. Pritchett - I'm a blogger watching SM explode all around me, this seems like an interesting way to get involved financially.
Thanks for coming. I am going to pull some ideas together and post them up soon, but you are right abotu the explosion and what better way for us to approach the investment concept. - Brad Nickel
Daniel, I like your blog and its focus. Will send you an email shortly. - Brad Nickel
Thanks Brad, I'm still new at the whole thing and trying to keep growing and learning. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Hao Chen
VC is big money. Social lending like on LendingClub, lenders usually invest less than a few hundred dollars per investment. A $500k VC would require thousands of investors at $100-$500 each. Seems unlikely. How to bridge the gap?
Take a look at funds like Y!Combinator and Techstars. They are low first round players - $20k to help new companies get started. That is really where I see the potential for this as well. - Brad Nickel
like angels - Hao Chen
Like mini Angels? Am I wrong to say that microVC is smaller than Angel funding? - Yuvi
Yes and no. My thought was that there are options for bundling investments up to say about $25,000 even if very small all together or include people that could afford say $1000 - $5000 as part of a bundle. I've also had people say that micro funding levels make sense for companies that just need a little cash to get things rolling. Since we are doing this on the fly, I would love to hear what you think. I think there is room for both. - Brad Nickel
So, you collect money from diff. people, give it to 1 person who handles all the paperwork? - Yuvi
Brad, it doesn't necessarily need to provide VC money that the company really needs. MicroVC could be simply a [well-connected] club of sorts that gets involved in companies that already have other streams of financing. Then it's marketed as an opportunity for smalltime investors to risk a little bit of money for fun and relatively big rewards. For example, MicroVC would invest $20K in,... more... - Aviv
Of course MicroVC could roll in the fees into the investment and hope for a liquidity event. That amounts to free money basically. - Aviv
Aviv, that is the model I was speaking to earlier and somewhat similar to my current business, so I really like that way of doing things and think logistically it makes the most sense. - Brad Nickel
Emmanuel Pozo
Sorry for the repost : Hey guys I am definitely interested, I am from Miami Florida and recently started something up that is getting a little viral, and I know soon enough I will need more resources to keep it going.
Emmanuel, I am in Miami as well. Would like to hear more about what you are doing. Strange to find as many Miami people as I have lately in web world. - Brad Nickel
Awesome! Yeah we should definitely talk, what do you do bytw ? - Emmanuel Pozo
misread the post, sorry .. they are actually seeking funding .. .heh - Emmanuel Pozo
No problem. We are seekign input from customers and funders alike. - Brad Nickel
Brad Nickel
Keep comments coming. I have to step out for a bit, but will be back later with more.
Brad Nickel
Welcome. Please announce yourself and your level of interest in this concept. Thanks,
I have done the VC pitch was not fun, I would ike to not have to do that with my next venture - Bill Pennington from twhirl
Right there with you. Lets see if we can make something happen. - Brad Nickel
I'm a web developer, unfamiliar with MicroVC (and don't know much about VC either), but interested in learning about the concept. I'm a member on sites like LendingClub and Prosper. - Hao Chen
We are creating the concept of MicroVC right here together and lendingclub and prosper area both excellent conceptual models for the concept behind this. - Brad Nickel
this sounds really cool! - Julie Kentwood
Julie, did I see you say you are from Florida? I am in Miami. Excited to get it rolling. - Brad Nickel
MicroVC is conceptually doable. SEC regulations will make it a fun ride, but not necessarily easy. Let's do this. One problem I foresee would be potential companies who may find it questionable to receive an investment from a MicroVC trust/club/group, especially if concerns over SEC compliance arise. - Aviv
Isn't Micro VC supposed to be really, really 'micro'?
Like, investing a comparatively smaller amount (say 500$ a month) in someone's pet project and get a share of the Ad revenue? - Yuvi
Ofcourse, radically different from traditional VCing, but this is supposed to be MicroVC, right? - Yuvi
Or am I totally off my senses here? - Yuvi
We've discussed both models combining and single investments like that and I think they both have potential. Please feel free to tell us more along this lines. - Brad Nickel
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