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Thomas Hawk
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed
I wish there was a AIR client for FF though. - barl0w
Twhirl works well for FF and it's an AIR client. - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl
Great article. I want to learn more about the dumping the RSS feeder part. You should share some tips with that. Good stuff. - Amani
Love seeing FF through the eyes of someone who's not a traditional techie =) - FFing Enigma
Thanks Bob! - barl0w
A big part of why I wrote this post and have it running in my number one photo spot on Flickr right now is because I want more of my photography friends to sign up for the service. I *love* seeing photos here on FriendFeed and there are so many talented photographers who are not here yet who need to be. If we can get more of them to sign up, you guys will love their work. Of course there are many great photographers already on here but still a lot more who could join. - Thomas Hawk
I had to re-share this with all my FB friends. :) - Kelly W.
Still trying to figure out this whole friendfeed experience. I've had the account for a while and see lots of my twitter friends posting via ff - Demetri Mouratis
great piece! - mashable
Hi Demetri =) Different people use FF different ways because they want to get different things out of it. What are you hoping to get out of it? - FFing Enigma
Thanks for the tip. I had FF but really never 'got' what it was for. This helped! - Molly Nichelson from twhirl
Nice post Thomas. - Paul Wade
TH - for those photographers that are not on here, I put their flickr id into my Flickr Imaginary friend and see their images that way. However, it would be nice to get more photographers on here with their reader shares and such... - Justin Korn
This is definitely the best "Why Friendfeed" post I've seen. - Nick in Manila
Justin, agreed. I have a bunch of imaginary friend accounts for Flickr/Zooomr users as well. But it is nicer when they actually have accounts here, their work can be liked and commented to the larger FF community, etc. It seems like a few new people signed up today based on this post so I'm happy for that. Thanks Nick! - Thomas Hawk
I have AlertThingy FriendFeed Edition as well as AlertThingy v2 - Outsanity
Well said, Thomas. :) - Josh Haley
Nice list of reasons, all well thought out. While I'm at it, I wanted to tell you that I really like your new blog design too. - Karoli
Do most folks use FF in Standard or Real-time view mode? - Scott Loftesness
Only ever real-time.. it sits nicely on the second monitor as a Chrome App. - Greg Gannicott
Realtime here... - Chris Gulker
Did you just reformatted your post, Thomas? It a lot easier to scan through now. - Alan Le
Alan, a lot of times I post first and edit later. I probably shouldn't do that, but yeah, after posting I broke up some of the paragraphs better, bolded a few things etc., to make it easier to read. - Thomas Hawk
That's great. Make sure to check out Windows Live Writer for formatting blog posts if you haven't already yet. By the way, I love the new blog design. It's much better than when I helped you with the html way back. http://thomashawk.com/2006... - Alan Le
Y'know... I must've spent two months randomly Tweeting things like "Will someone PLEASE explain to me why I should be using FriendFeed?" ... And then two days ago I start using my account (I'd had one for a while)... and NOW someone finally makes a post outlining why I should be here. You're two days late, Mr. Hawk, two days late. :P - Lou
actually, there's no search for Russian word forms on Frf. For me that looks as if there's no search at all - orie
hmmm.. I didn't know that orie. It seems like there is a lot of international users on FF, that's surprising to me. - Thomas Hawk
I've been trying to make sense of FF for months now, but every time I come away confused. As it is I feel like I'm drowning under all the social networking sites available. I use Twitter, Plurk and Facebook the most, and I use Ping.fm so I only have to post status updates once. How can I integrate FF into this without making things even more confusing? - Chris Taylor
oooh! I found the zooomr version of this post with no formatting and I whined somewhere else in my FF feed. This one with all the formatting is better :D - Tamar Weinberg
I really liked how you did a post on Flicker - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
All good reasons but #10 is my #1 reason :) - Mark Krynsky
Mark - agreed. Also, Thomas ... very nice blog. I like. - Amani
@Tamar, the unformated text was a problem on the Zooomr image. Kristopher's fixed that bug now so text in descriptions on Zooomr photos should format correctly now. - Thomas Hawk
I wasn't using FF, but signed up after your post. Now let's see if it is really so useful ;-) - Marcel Körner
@Marcel also take into consideration who you are subscribed to. Aside from maybe four on your current sub list, they are not very active at all on FF. This will affect your experience here. - Carlos Ayala
Didn't know there was a "Porn" room on FF (see screenshot)... - David Young
how did you see that they are not active on FF? - Marcel Körner
David, the "porn" room on FriendFeed isn't all that active actually. I'm not really interested in porn per se, just thought it was a good group name to claim in the great FriendFeed land group name grab of 2008. - Thomas Hawk
@Marcel by their numbers, and the fact that i know most of them and can tell you first hand that they are not. (if you hover over people's names you will see their numbers) - Carlos Ayala
still hard to beat 5 years on for speed - Thomas Power
So true Thomas: people still can't as a majority read dynamic feeds. - Zu from AOD
it gives you an easy key to the way back machine - chaz2b
Robert Scoble
Have you been at the Olympic Games? I envy you! ;) - Sebastian Matyszczak
Yeah, I'm there right now, but only seeing two events. Will be at the USA-Canada womens hockey game today. - Robert Scoble
I also supporter of the U.S. - Sebastian Matyszczak
Michael Martin
RT @BinaryMoon: Email client market share: February 2010 http://litmusapp.com/blog...
Robert Scoble
Fail whale. MORE PRODUCTIVITY! Oh, and hello again FriendFeed. Backup for the whale. :-)
Ain't it the truth! - Gregg Morris
Guess that answers my question. Twitter must be down. ;( - David Damore
Twitter is definitely down. - Robert Scoble
Heh--I was wondering when you would show-up. :-) - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Seems like a hard fail right now. - David Damore
Ahoy! - phil baumann
you know it! - DanielthePoet
"Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try again." Didn't know people had so much to say about Charlie Weis - David Damore
It's been down for at least five minutes already. This is the longest I've seen the fail whale in months. - Robert Scoble
F5 F5 F5 WTF??? - David Damore
so are you starting to get the shakes? How long can you go without tweeting? - Ben Reierson
Responding to high error rate 21 seconds ago Starting about 10 minutes ago, we began experiencing a very high rate of errors and we are working on the underlying problem. - David Damore
would be more productivity if there was no FF ( twitter backup ) - Mihai Secasiu
Grrr. - James Myatt
Looks like they had a similar problem about a week ago with elevated error rates. - David Damore
Hello again? Like the girlfriend once scorned, should we accept your advances now? :) - Louis Gray
Fixed now for you folks? - David Damore
Looks like Twitter is better now. - David Damore
It's always been this way: http://friendfeed.com/mediaph... - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Not fixed here. I skipped the '?' and had my hopes up. F5 F5 - Tim
Hey it's back... nope there it goes again. And back... nope gone again. - SAM
Hmmmmmm - David Damore
Back down here again too :( - David Damore
Are you going to stay this time? :-) - Jesse Stay
How would Google Wave be useful right now? - David Damore
Wow 15 minutes and counting. We're approaching pre @aplusk days - Tim
@ David - well this looks like an interesting Wave - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - phil baumann
lol - Mark
and is Twitter down? I never noticed. - Jesse Stay
Is @aplush pre or post Oprah? Joking - David Damore
Thanks Phil - David Damore
So what was trending when it went down? - phil baumann
Dave - sure. Interesting use case. Definitely spam would be something Google would have to work on. - phil baumann
not sure what was trending but there was quite a lot of activity on #Spill - in Oz our opposition party is having a meltdown and are spilling the leadership in 30 mins time - Hilary Talbot
Phil: That was really interesting. Surprised that that shooting never gained traction on Twitter. Did it ever trend? Seems like it was all about Mr. Woods the past few days.... and shopping - David Damore
Hi everyone. Hope you are all surviving without twitter lol. Great to see you all here. - snysctt
It's back - Tim
For how long though lol - snysctt
Twitter Lists are gone :o! - snysctt
Back up. I think the FAIL Whale actually dreams of FriendFeed succeeding and killing Twitter. :) - phil baumann
@snysctt Good catch on noticing the missing lists. Call out an APB! - David Damore
Thanks! :-) - snysctt
I think I broke my F5 button lol - snysctt
Tim O'Reilly
How huge JavaScript libraries, rich content, and poorly designed ad servers are slowing the web down http://radar.oreilly.com/2009...
At last someone is speaking out. - James Robertson
Barry Roodt
http://twitpic.com/nnddh - We didn't do anything..honest!
http://twitpic.com/nnddh - We didn't do anything..honest!
Bret Taylor
Facebook Just Made It Super Easy To Put Connect On Your Site - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Facebook Just Made It Super Easy To Put Connect On Your Site
it is like google friend connect's method - onur özen from iPod
Will give it a bash! - Sean Kelly
Hmmm, Just tried this, but keep getting an error on Step 2 when I "Test Setup"... I'd better get Googling.. - Andrew Terry
The process doesn't really work on wordpress. - Jason Williams from iPhone
I don't know how to do the upload file part. Would be better to have a way to do this via WordPress. - Thomas Hawk
Google Friend Connect had this process for a while, now they improved over FC again by eliminating the file-upload part. No uploads needed now. - Ray Cromwell
actually Otto somebody else uploaded WordPress to my site for the first time. I'm not sure how to upload files to my domain. It would be nice if they had a WP widget that you could just install that did all of this for you. - Thomas Hawk
I'm sure I have the ability. I just don't have the know how. - Thomas Hawk
Depending on your host Thomas... they might have a flash based ftp client. I know Godaddy does. - Jason Williams
Alex Sinov
RT @chrisbrogan: Laughing at this video about social media experts. Hear yourself in it? http://www.youtube.com/watch... ( youtube) (NSFW-language)
RT @chrisbrogan: Laughing at this video about social media experts. Hear yourself in it? http://bit.ly/fl1Z9 ( youtube) (NSFW-language)
Paul Kinlan
Facebook Open Sources FriendFeed's Ultra-Fast Real-Time Web Framework - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Robert Scoble
Mashable and LA Times discussed here (I changed this post to remove inaccuracy in headline).
Copying? In what way? I saw the statement (on Current) and wrote an article. The image I found in a cc search. If it's copyrighted, I'll take the image down asap. - Ben Parr
Ben posted his article before this was posted, it looks like it happened the other way around Scoble. http://mashable.com/2009... - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
@Jolie: If we use your video work without credit/links, just email me and I'll fix it. - Ben Parr
I just sent you a DM Scoble. It sums up to this: I do not appreciate your attacking my journalistic integrity. I have never, on purpose or ever, stole content from anyone and liberally link back if you were a consistent reader of my articles - Ben Parr
Furthermore, the LA time piece came AFTER my article, published on September 1st, not the 2nd. - Ben Parr
Ben, actually there is a copyrighted article in the Op-ed from 6:30 yesterday. http://www.latimes.com/news... - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Fight - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
Scoble doesn't have to, the first link on the page linked to my second link. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
What a hot mess this is. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Why do I get the feeling we're going to read all about this on Techmeme later today or tomorrow? Can we all just get along? - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
Jimminy - thanks for the link. I took the statement from - http://current.com/sl... and credited it to Current in the article. I never take or steal from anyone purposely for any reason. Ever. - Ben Parr
Ben: how did you get the release? From Current.tv? Why not link to the original? I've Tweeted all of this. - Robert Scoble
Ben: why didn't you link to the original? - Robert Scoble
someone dog pile on someone please. - geoff hines
And, Ben, someone sent me this post. So, perception out there is why I wrote this. Glad you cleared it up and I'm sorry I questioned your integrity. I didn't see attribution in the original and it looked strange. - Robert Scoble
that statement was of sufficient public interest that I figured the lack of attribution wasn't the biggest deal in the world. I read the statement on mashable and was glad to get the chance to. of course generally speaking attribution is important, I'm just saying. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Scoble: I did link, to current.tv's homepage. The statement appears on the homepage when you visit the first time. It changes after the first time you visit the homepage. That is something I will remember for the future. - Ben Parr
Even though he was wrong, I'm glad Scoble is now the copyright police. AP was doing a really bad job. Kidding, it's an important issue and it's good it gets talked about. - Dominic Jones
Scoble, he got it from the Current site, it's front page there currently. There is no link to the LA Times version on Current either. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Interesting. Regardless of linking back or not, I'm tired of bloggers not coming up with their own stories/angles and writing posts ABOUT other posts, period. My unsolicited $0.02. - Jennifer Leggio
Marshall: it's always best to explain how you got the information and link to the original, if it's on the web somewhere. It's like forgetting a footnote in a college paper. - Robert Scoble
Check your facts, always, plz. Kthx. - Andru Edwards
My question, how the f*ck did the LA Times get a copyright on this when it came directly from Laura and Euna on the Current site. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Jolie, Yeah, but letting news drive all of the content is just lazy. Then again I tend to veer toward more feature / interview type stuff anyway. To each his - or her - own. :) We're in agreement about @arrington, though. ;-) - Jennifer Leggio
Is this Armageddon? Tech blog wars! - Jesse Stay
Jimminy: LA Times puts copyright on everything. Truth is LA Times didn't link either. which is why my reader was confused. By the way, I've just apologized to Ben on Twitter. See, it all works out. - Robert Scoble
Jennifer: I am worried about that trend as well. However, most stories are broken by just one (of millions) of instutitions, or are reporting on a public statement and we all pick up on it. I try to give a smart analysis on those stories though. - Ben Parr
Robert: I appreciate it, apology accepted. These misunderstandings happen. - Ben Parr
I just want everyone to know that I love all of you - group hug? - Jesse Stay
PJ - I've seen a lot of comments lately about Mashable feeling more "tabloid" like. - Jennifer Leggio
Ben - Agree. A unique angle helps, but sometimes I think those unique stories are diminished because everyone is racing to get the most page views. - Jennifer Leggio
Ben: the thing is, Mashable has a rep as per http://live.louisgray.com/2008... and that's why I jumped in. - Robert Scoble
I agree Jesse, and I also agree with Drew, we'll just #blamedrewscancer - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
I wonder what we're going to blame things on after Drew beats his cancer? - Robert Scoble
Also - I'm going to wager Current didn't link back to the holy la times because they broke the release story. ChloeS had the inside track before the times knew it was daylight. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
I'll still blame his cancer, and scoble - Jesse Stay
I own blamescoble.com. Dave Winer thinks I should create a wiki out of it - what do you think? - Jesse Stay
Robert: I was not editor then, and it's a much larger and stronger team now. - Ben Parr
@robert: seeing as how you KNOW PEOPLE AT MASHABLE, why didn't you bother to verify it as accurate before making it public? - Jeremy Toeman
Jolie: Group hug! Jennifer and PJ: Always feel free to email criticism or thoughts at ben@mashable.com, and I will email you mine. - Ben Parr
PJ - Agreed. I actually wrote a post that dug into the topic on PR 2.0 last week. I would link it, but I don't want to post whore. :) - Jennifer Leggio
I think Scoble should do a guest post on Mashable - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
Jesse, I say we take Scoble's avatar and replace his mouth with a text input and then we can cram the stuff we blame Scoble for down his throat. In a nice way. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
So what's the verdict on the Gmail piece?? - Minu Nianda
Jeremy Toeman makes the best point in this thread. - Jennifer Leggio
Jeremy: in hindsight that probably would have been better way to go. I live in public, though, for better or for worse. Sometimes better. Sometimes worse. No one can accuse me of playing footsie behind closed doors, though. - Robert Scoble
Crap happens, and I'm glad to have people like Robert Scoble paying attention. I'm sure it wasn't anything purposely done, but the fact that we have checks and balances and a code of conduct is a great thing. - drew olanoff
@Robert: what kind of a BS answer is that? you PUBLICLY ACCUSED them. period. no footsie, no nothing. now if *anyone* thinks they actually did that, you are to blame, because they might not have noticed your follow-up tweet. it's irresponsible. - Jeremy Toeman
I don't see the link on the Mashable article to the Current page. Where is it? I find it funny that Ben Parr and Mashable are being called out for using a statement, and ostensibly linking to Current, from Current employees instead of the LA Times. Considering the story is identical on Current and the LA Times, it's almost likely they issued the statement to multiple news outlets.... more... - Mark Trapp
Thanks drew. Truth is, a reader of mine sent me this and wondered why Mashable does this. So, glad the perception was dealt with in public. - Robert Scoble
@Drew: yes, the code of conduct is to VERIFY RUMORS before making accusations. - Jeremy Toeman
@Robert: something you could have verified and cleared up in private, there was no reason to do so in public. - Jeremy Toeman
Mark, we've already concluded the direct-from-source version was the one on Current, still haven't seen a proper link to it though. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Jeremy: fair enough. I work in public. That's my tool of choice. - Robert Scoble
One reason not to link to the original is because then your readers will see how little value you added to the piece you copied. - Dominic Jones
Robert - But to Jeremy's point, if you're trying to serve the community, don't you owe it to the community to check accuracy? Otherwise it's perpetuating the problem. We went straight to an issue of accused plagiarism to one of potential libel. - Jennifer Leggio
Jennifer: true. I went over the line. - Robert Scoble
Jimminy: fair enough. Thought I was blind with the link, because in this discussion, Ben Parr said he linked the story to Current. - Mark Trapp
Wow, everything unfolded and wrapped up in 45 minutes. Talk about real time. - Mona Nomura
I added a clarification to the bottom of the article in question so nobody else gets confused. Hopefully that ends all confusion and @scobleizer and I can be friends again. If there are future issues, I respond to emails fast and DMs faster. - Ben Parr
Mark, the post has been amended, the link is at the very bottom of the article now. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Pete Cashmore stole my heart with his good looks! - sean percival
I hope Armageddon ends up in a group hug like this - Jesse Stay
this reminds me of that time Glenn Beck misconstrued something someone said and then got called on it and apologized...wait, dammit, that didn't happen that was just a dream I had last night argh - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
What you didn't see in the video of Robert interviewing me was that we were, in fact, playing footsie. Whew. Glad I got that off my chest. Sorry, Robert. It had to be said in light of all this public venting. :) - Lon Cohen
Here we go again..... So I had a look and coming in late on this I see at the bottom Mashable link to Current - OK, all fixed everyone happy. I went and read the louisgray.com post @Scoble linked to above and Louis links to a post on parislemon.com regarding Ars Technica so I read that and am then having a quick look at the Ars post and a 'similar' post is recommended by Ars to me on... more... - Stephen Edgar
Robert Scoble
Hah @photomatt's email to me got thrown into spam by Exchange. He's the brains behind Wordpress.
Dave Winer
Concerned there hasn't been more tech press coverage of the podcast patent. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
if patents are so important, why wasn't one applied for? - Steve Gillmor
How would this impact the current podcasting world? Would they sue every podcast publisher out there? - Fajar Nurdiansyah
Dave I am as well, it has been nagging at me all day long. If someone had tried to pull this crap in 2005-6 then all hell would have broken loose. Now everyone is cowering in the corner. - Todd Cochrane
no one is cowering, they are just not interested in the story. podcasting is a little bit passée now to them - Mark
Appears that way to me. - Todd Cochrane
I mean the big boys, certainly one of the biggest is TechCrunch. They don't exactly cower on stories :p They just are not that bothered about it, to come up with one of Those Biting And Controversial Headlines They Write. - Mark
Having said that, I think some of the quality journals might have something to say in their Tech section today - Mark
From what I have read, it appears to be a patent on a platform for delivering podcasting in such a way that the advertising in it could be updated independently to the content. You may deliver a show with an ad, but a year later, that ad may be obsolete or incorrect. The press release appears to focus on the technology of inserting that new advertising material into the shows. So,... more... - Johnny
Dani McDaniel
WP-CommentNavi 1.10 Readme - http://lesterchan.net/wordpre...
Adds a more advanced paging navigation for your comments to your WordPress 2.7 and above blog. - Dani McDaniel
Paul Kinlan
Paypal announces flexible, ubiquitous developer platform - http://arstechnica.com/web...
Robert Scoble
Handshake Horror: The Awareness Spreads. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"I shake Arrington’s hand as often as I can. Why? Cause it gets that “you don’t read my blog, do you?” look. Seriously shaking hands is so automatic in our society that it’s very hard to change this behavior. I think we’ll be driving electric cars before we get rid of shaking hands. That said, I usually fist bump when I can because I just don’t want to be the guy who gets a whole town sick." - Robert Scoble
I don't think it'll ever go away Robert a lot of other things will change first as you stated. - John Blanton
Keep your hands away from your face and you'll be fine. Besides for all we know coming into constant contact with 'handshake germs' may be making our immune systems stronger. If you get sick more than a couple of times a year then you should think about improving your diet and exercise routine instead of blaming subway rides and handshakes. - Ian Paul
+1 Ian Paul - Jordan Brock from iPhone
I'd love, LOVE, to be a somebody and be introduced to Arrington and say something that would sting ;) Maybe.. "Oh you are the guy from Scripting News?" - Mark
I know Diego. This is from TechCrunch's mission statement: "TechCrunch was founded..., as a weblog dedicated to obsessively profiling and reviewing new Internet products and companies. In addition to covering new companies, we profile existing companies that are making an impact... on the new web space." - Mark
They need to stop this bullshit and follow their mission statement - Mark
It is interesting that I very rarely get sick but I shake more hands than almost anyone I know. Maybe there's something to the idea of exposing yourself to the widest range of bugs out there. - Robert Scoble
I think there is a very strong link to exposing yourself to germs and letting your body fight them - Robert Burgin
of course there is Roberts, that's how vaccinations work. - Mark
Mark, yes, in a sense. But you have to have a fairly strong immune system at the time for it to work. In other words, take it slow if you know you have a general susceptibility - Melanie Reed
I support over 340 computers in a large insurance company imagine the germs I come in contact with, and I rarely get sick even though I have touched everyone of there keyboards and mice more times than I can even imagine. Of course I do wash hands frequently nad hand sanitizer lol - Robert Burgin
Also, I might add a caution: there are pathogens that favor certain conditions that are "perverse". The flu in 1918 for instance took out more of the young and stronger. - Melanie Reed
I also would add that there are pathogens that have the ability to "hide" and also to lie dormant in the body...sometimes for years. Just be thankful for a strong immune system that you can "exercise" to be stronger by certain exposures AND also exercise some reasonable precaution. - Melanie Reed
Mysophobia is a form of OCD. Those who obsess about contamination from handshakes should be reassured that it can be treated. http://www.epigee.org/mental_... - Sprague D
well said - Mark
Robert Scoble
When You Put Data In, You Should Be Able to Get It Out - http://smarterware.org/2486...
Robert, have you tried telling that to your pals @FriendFeed? - ianf ⌘
ianf... What do you want back out of FriendFeed? - Johnny
Well really, the data that goes into FriendFeed is mostly reproductions of data that you've put in elsewhere, e.g Twitter, Flickr, etc. - Bryce Roney
How personal can your Tweets really be anyway? This is not going to keep me up at night. Although, if I had this problem with FB or Flickr it would be another story. - Ian Paul
I had my Pro account on Flickr expire a few months ago. I couldn't access my photos by browsing but they were still on this site. There is a hard limit on the non-pro account, I had no expectations that it would remain at the Pro level if I did not renew. A lot of this has to do with people measuring their expectations. - Johnny
Joe Tortuga
Tweetdeck syncs its workspace. Dropbox keeps files in sync. Half the apps I use are webapps. How long before my whole desktop syncs?
why would you need a desktop when you have a webbrowser. people have to get rid of their "an app must be installable" mentality. - Paul Kinlan
Hey Paul, are you still developing the "installable" version of FriendDeck ? :) - Mihai Secasiu
there has been an installable version of frienddeck (which is open source too) for a while now. - Paul Kinlan
I'll always need some sort of desktop. The browsers aren't quite there yet, to support a full OS, IMHO. - Joe Tortuga
Joe, the point I was going to make (but forgot) was that it is easy to make a web app appear and work the same as a desktop top app. Frienddeck being an example. Lots of people simply want something to install, i am not sure why, maybe it appears like a tangible asset... - Paul Kinlan
Speaking to Paul's point: maybe they feel like they have more control. - Karma Martell
Karma, a lot of people said their workflow meant that they go up their start menu and load an application up. My point at the time was that the app I am creating is exactly the same. If you look that the "Create Application Shortcuts" in Google Chrome that is where I think the desktop web is going - kinda solves the problem that people were talking about. - Paul Kinlan
Jesse Stay
In an era of real-time, why can't Paypal just send my freakin' money to my bank account in real-time?
Somehow I think it's more the bank's doing than PayPal's. - Bryce Roney
Bryce, I somehow doubt that because it seems to take the same length regardless of which bank I belong to. Whereas if I transfer money from my USBank account to my USAA bank account, USAA recognizes the transfer immediately and credits my account. - Jesse Stay
I don't think it's technology - I think it's the banks wanting to keep their money for as long as possible so they have no need to innovate. - Jesse Stay
+1 Jesse - PayPal's team has very low ethics. - Mitchell Tsai
Yup, this is a huge annoyance. - Michael McKean
Sid, the good banks allow that - my USAA account for instance, FTMP, will allow me to scan in a check and the money is available almost immediately. My bank trusts me. - Jesse Stay
Sid, that's definitely a part - HIPAA (for healthcare) is even worse. The money transfer protocols are very similar between banks and healthcare - Jesse Stay
Sid yeah, it's sad that I can receive money almost immediate on USAA, but any other bank that doesn't feel the need to compete I have to wait 3 days to get the same amount of money (and often with fees) - Jesse Stay
Sid, part of it is we need to take the power out of the large banks and bring back the ability to compete for those wanting to start over and innovate. Same goes with healthcare. - Jesse Stay
Same goes for the auto industry - Jesse Stay
I remember at UnitedHealth Group, the division I was in had their very own "lobbyist" which was part of a much larger team of "lobbyists" all working to get government to pass laws that benefited UHG. I asked once why we don't just lobby government to just change the HIPAA standards to make our work easier and I was told "then UHG won't make money". - Jesse Stay
Because PayPal isn't a bank.But it uses Automated Clearing House transfers to get money to and from accounts. It costs very little,is accountable, and is pretty much how most inter-institution transfers (bill pay,etc) work.Remember when it took WEEKS to clear a check? Relax. - Andrew Feinberg
Andrew, sounds like we need to get rid of the need for the Clearing House (that goes for Healthcare as well) and fix our standards so Banks can actually talk with other banks with ease. Oh wait, that would hurt the big clearing houses and larger bank organizations that own them, and they're the ones lobbying government so we wouldn't want to do that, would we? :-) - Jesse Stay
And your deposit is most likely in some kind of money market account earning interest for PayPal... - Joshua Galloway
There's also a trust thing - if I tell my bank I have the money in Paypal to retrieve the money, my bank should trust that I'm telling the truth. Penalize me if I wasn't. USAA does that, and that's why I've been loyal to them for over 15 years. - Jesse Stay
Sid, yet another area our nation is lacking. :-) - Jesse Stay
I've always wondered why I can go to the supermarket, swipe my card and the funds will be gone instantly but it takes days for a cheque to clear. Luckily cheques are practically redundant these days - Bryce Roney
Paul Buchheit
In Python, what is the value of this expression: x % 3.3 == (x+1) % 3.3
Unless it has a bug the answer is false - Dave Winer
False, I would expect, because no number is congruent to itself plus one mod 3.3, and Python modulo is sane with respect to negative numbers. You can't add 1 to a string, and only numbers and strings admit the % operator. Is there a trick? - ⓞnor
I cheated and ran it in the interactive interpreter. Its false for all numeric values of x I tried. Amazingly a string cannot be taken modulo 3.3. (Edit: I mean its a dynamic language after all, a string modulo 3.3 should skip every third letter or something equally clever but useless). - DGentry
Yes, there is a trick. - Paul Buchheit
I'll assume that the trick doesn't involve a user-defined class that defines __mod__, as that would be cheap. - Tudor Bosman
No, the solution is not a trick. This was an actual bug that I had in my code (don't cheat, Tudor). - Paul Buchheit
Is precedence the problem? - Daniel Dulitz
does it involve integer/long overflow? - Eric Kerr
There is no long overflow in Python (longs are arbitrarily large). I'm waiting for the answer to Daniel's question. - Tudor Bosman
It's True for certain values of x. I leave it to you to determine which values :) - Paul Buchheit
Paul, as you said "values of x", I'm assuming that this is not a precedence issue. That is, if I have def foo(x): return x % 3.3 == (x+1) % 3.3, then foo(x) will be True for some values of x. - Tudor Bosman
True for x = 1e+100 (insufficient precision to represent the +1). What do I win? - ⓞnor
True for 1e32 - Joe Beda
Ha ha, beat you. :) - ⓞnor
Heh -- by like 6 seconds. Real time, bitch. - Joe Beda
okay, now I have to look at the code to see what you were using large floats for :) - Tudor Bosman
Yeah, I'm wondering about the context. (Assuming this was the case you had in mind.) - ⓞnor
Yeah, somewhere around x=2**53 the loss of precision on the int to float conversion causes it to lose the +1 and the expression is True. - Paul Buchheit
Liked for the real time smackdown. Hi Joe! Long time no see. How's the family? We gotta get up to Seattle again soon to see all my friends there. - Robert Scoble
Pie - iTad
x was the hash() of a string, and at some point the values returned by hash() must have gotten a lot larger than when I had originally written the code. - Paul Buchheit
To me, nothing:-) - Francine Hardaway
You're taking hash values modulo 3.3? - ⓞnor
Hey Scoble -- definately -- I'd be happy to show you around the Google Seattle office. - Joe Beda
Wolfram|Alpha is never sure what to do with _my_ input. - Paul Buchheit
Wolfram|Alpha just hangs for me most of the time. - Joe Beda
If I have a counter 'i', then i % 3 == 0 will be True 1/3 of the time, but what if I want it to be True with some other arbitrary probability (such as 1/pi), but non-randomly? (so that the values are distributed as evenly as possible) This was my solution (except with > instead of ==). It's kind of overkill, but I couldn't resist the puzzle. - Paul Buchheit
I think a normal person would have done "hash(i) % 1000 < 318" or the like... but sure, it's cute that you do the modulo directly in floating point space. Cute until the gremlins of floating point *eat your brains*. There's a reason we stay away from that stuff! - ⓞnor
Okay - it gets stranger -- I wrote a binary search to find the inflection point. I didn't get what I expected. x=9007500000000000 -> True, x=9007500000000000+1 -> False, x=9007500000000000+51 -> True. There is something strange going on. Python version 2.5.4 (r254:67916, Apr 1 2009, 17:38:54) \n[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5490)] - Joe Beda
Wolfram|Alpha also returns True around 2^53: http://www26.wolframalpha.com/input... - Karim
Dan, that solution would produce unnecessarily long sequences of zeros (or ones). Once I have that, I may as well just use random(). On the other hand, [int((i+1) % f > i % f) for i in range(0, 30)] will not produce any adjacent zeros if f is >= 2. - Paul Buchheit
You could use fixed point if you had a typed language and could select longs to hold the result, e.g if you want 3.3, then (counter * 10 + increment) % 33. Overflow bugs are insidious, these days languages should have support for arbitrary precision promotion. I'm reminded of Joshua Bloch's "Nearly All Binary Searches are Broken" blog post: http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006... - Ray Cromwell
Python already has arbitrarily large longs Ray (no integer overflow), so it should not be vulnerable to Joshua's binary search bug. I'm not sure what "counter" and "increment" are in your example though. - Paul Buchheit
Oh, I see, you want evenly interleaved values with the appropriate distribution? Then why were you using hash() at all? - ⓞnor
The hash() provides a starting position (hash(feed_id) + i). This is used by the crawl, and I don't want all the feeds having the same True/False values at the same time. The hash provides an even distribution across feeds, and the other part provides an even distribution across time. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, counter in your case would be hash(feed_id), and increment would be 'i' I'm guessing, the amount you want to add each time. The idea is, if you want to say, mimic x + 0.1 % 3.3, you instead use x * 10 + 1 % 33. Then, if you have arbitrary precision integers, you'll never overflow (the float mantissa/round-off error) - Ray Cromwell
Ray, the even easier solution was to use hash % 1000000 so that I'm nowhere near the floating point rounding error :). - Paul Buchheit
No objection there, keep it simple, and floats will be faster than arbitrary precision longs I suspect. :) - Ray Cromwell
Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Jalopnik - No Automakers Meet Obama's New Fuel Economy Standard - http://jalopnik.com/5261242...
Jalopnik - No Automakers Meet Obama's New Fuel Economy Standard
man Toyota has a 38.1/35.9 MPG (Import/Domestic) fuel economy rating and Honda a 36.5 MPG. Japanese cars dominate that field. - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Do you actually want an answer to that, Mark? Or is this just rhetorical? - FFing Enigma
Then why does the Insight get crappy numbers? - Derrick
My Echo is better mileage that many Hybrids, especially for the type of driving. The stopped making it. - moon_shadow70
Mark, here's the problem: the populous wants a huge car that can seat 8 but convert to a truck for hauling home improvement supplies PLUS it has to get 40 MPG, all while costing 75% of what vehicles cost now. THAT'S what the public wants, because they're generally illinformed and have unrealistic expectations. - FFing Enigma
what tina said. - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
In what strange universe did the 1985 Honda CRX get 49 mpg? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Because that's what the new Prius gets...49 MPG. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
MVB is right: http://www.ridelust.com/mpg-war... - and yeah, that article is right that the Prius is freaking huge. I've never understood why Americans like such large cars. - Andrew C (✔)
IMO, the real answer ought to be to tax gas, a lot. People factor expected gas expenditures into their ideal car decision. (and why should we do this? Because of the tragedy of the commons blah blah blah negative externalities from the individual choices to purchase gas-guzzlers, etc etc.) - Andrew C (✔)
it's because we take up more space - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
I'd seen Priuses in pictures long before I saw one in real life. Since it was shaped like a CRX, I assumed it was sized like a CRX. Not so, it's WAAAAAY bigger. Even the "compact" (har har) cars of the US are much larger than they used to be ... the 'sub compact cars' of today are about the size of the compact cars of a mere 15-20 years ago. - Andrew C (✔)
Anyways, I see nothing wrong with mandating higher fuel economy standards. People might also want less lead in the environment, but mandating its removal was a lot better than leaving it up to individual choice, esp since those choices would often come down to "I want to save a little money; let's have _everyone else_ choose unleaded." - Andrew C (✔)
Indeed I don't. And if I had a business that depended on using mercury, I bet I might oppose mercury dumping restrictions, but that doesn't mean I'd be right to do so. - Andrew C (✔)
I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying. - Andrew C (✔)
Mark the fuel efficiency of cars is a strategic issue, it's not a market issue, or we wouldn't be in all these countries that have oil fields. The more we are dependent the more we are vulnerable and not attacking this vulnerability has been criminal. - Todd Hoff
So you're saying that without the world essentially subsidizing your venture via your externalizing some of the costs of that fuel usage, the business would be unsustainable? - Andrew C (✔)
I mean, even without gas taxes, peak oil implies that any business that depends on $2/gal gas is not sustainable long-term. (BTW, cargo ships are quite fuel efficient, and as for planes, the airlines and aircraft manufacturers already think long term. Newer planes are more fuel efficient and the airlines have also been passing along those fuel price hikes as much as they can to consumers, which has the effect of consumers deciding sometimes to travel less.) - Andrew C (✔)
Call me naive, but it seems to me that power and wired communication wouldn't disappear if fuel was more expensive; they would just be more expensive as well. (Tangent: jet fuel is roughly one sixth the size of automobile fuel consumption, which might be another reason it's a bigger target for environmentalists. Source: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav...) - Andrew C (✔)
I am a diehard urbanist, actually, and I barely care about rural internetification... And again, you still haven't explained how this business is sustainable if, say, peak oil drives up fuel prices. (And if it is sustainable under those circumstances, then what's the problem with fuel taxes? ) That said, I'm grateful you didn't bust out the old claim that businesses always just pass along taxes to consumers. - Andrew C (✔)
Like, in 2007, with $4/gal gas, did your business stop altogether? Would it at $5/gal? $6? - Andrew C (✔)
If being dependent on a market controlled by your enemies is diversionary for you Mark then you suffer from market blindness. - Todd Hoff
Mark, nothing happens quickly here, especially not sweeping changes to the energy structure. Increasing the mpg requirements is a stop gap to try and reduce dependency while those slow moving changes are worked upon. - FFing Enigma
I do NOT get this. There are cars in Europe that are getting 50+ mpg. WTF? Where are they in the US? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Would you propose Mark that we do away with property laws because the market wants to go in the direction of taking your property? Absolutely not. The market is a means not and end. My safety and the safety of this country is way too important to leave to the collective id that is the market. The market itself is sociopathic and it's the laws and rules that keep it from devouring everything. - Todd Hoff
How much is diesel in the US? Over here in Germany we currently pay about 1 Euro per liter of diesel, 1,30 Euro for premium (95 RON). - Holger Eilhard
"market/consumer/end-user" as the end of the production cycle? How sad... Not to mention what got us as a species in so many of the holes we're in now. - FFing Enigma
And criminals want a choice of people to rob. Constrained choice is appropriate in many contexts. Should you have a choice of nonrecyclable packaging when our land fills are filling up? You don't want choice as much as no responsibility for your actions because the market doesn't provide individually responsibility. That's for a higher level rule system. And none of this is about philosophy like the flat earth isn't about philosophy. - Todd Hoff
Todd's right, when there's a case of market failure - such as in the oft-cited tragedy of the commons, and I think excessive fuel usage fits that analogy just because air pollution is a negative externality - then it is entirely appropriate for gov't to step in, whether that's in the form of high gas taxes or merely mandating fuel economy. Plus, if memory serves, the US carmakers... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Look what we've got here in Europe ^^ Everything is possible. Your president is just rising the bar, and that's for good. - TiTi
Continuing Current U.S. Energy Policy Called 'Perilous' - http://www.climatebiz.com/blog... - Todd Hoff
Apple Warns that Using Earbuds with iPod or iPhone can be Shocking Experience http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/apple-w...
Sorry, another animated gif, but this is too funny… - http://www.zee.me/blog...
Sorry, another animated gif, but this is too funny…
i genuinely don't like animated gifs guys...but come on, this is hilarious.. - Zee.
newb - Simon Wicks
i just love the way he claps before hand with such enthusiasm...then bang! - Zee.
GEE! I remember that. - Valley
lmfao.... OUCH!! what a dickhead! - Rob Sellen :o)
Is that Joey from Friends on the left? - Simon Wicks
Lol thanks Meric... - Zee.
like and then hide... so I don't keep watching it. :) - mikepk
did he win? - Rob Sellen :o)
Just what _the hell_ was he hoping to do, and did he swallow anything .. like his tongue, or some teeth, perhaps? So many questions... - Wayne Smallman
What is the white object comes out from his head? - Alp
Funny, but it's a good thing FF is real-time now, so this GIF will soon disappear from view. - Grey Drane
Classic clip from 'So You Think You Can Dance'. Good times. - Quinton
unless people keep post on it ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
you can just hide it of course Grey - Zee.
ouch - Nathan Chase
OUCH!!! - YoYo_P
If i remember correctly, the dude got back up and continued dancing. - Valley
can't stop watching. - Jim #teamFFrank
Make it go away !!! - Dave Ploch
hide guys hide! - Zee.
Painful.. for him and for us to watch - especially in a continuous loop. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
funny tho - Rob Sellen :o)
oh my word that hurts - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Offff... - Burak Budak
I'm not sure funny is the word..... - nsnadell
definition of: "face-plant" - .LAG liked that
This could be a good analogy for the new FF look. based on all the howling that has been going on. uh AKA Face Feed :D - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo
This guy is somewhere trying to live this down. It ain't happening soon. - Valley
omg that's horrific - stanleyyork
its on his head... a hat? - Rob Sellen :o)
Least he got straight back up and carried on! Props to him. - Simon Wicks
What happened to him? - Yalçın Erdemir
Oops - Vicey
well done - Opensource Obscure
OUCH. - Ron Bailey
My guess is that he had never actually tried to do that flip before. He was just so full of himself he figured he could. Looks easy, right? - iTad
ROFL I mean I'm really ROFLing right now - Dobromir Hadzhiev
After watching the full video, I'm not sure he had ever tried to dance before. His facial expressions look totally pained. - iTad
I'm going to have to hide this as it is too painful a reminder of my own pathetic attempts at dancing... - Andrew Leyden
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! - Randy
OUCH! - AJ Batac
omg - Kate
LOL look at the judges faces!!!! - Anthony Farrior
ouch!! I can't stop watching this, lol! - Gabe Diaz
Thanks, Meric. Salah is now my favorite word for today. - Yolanda
Classic - Bwana ☠
That was epic. - Andru Edwards
wow! WE HAVE A WINNAH! - vijay
That was the winner from "So You Think You Can SLAM Dance?" ;) - Jericho
OUCH! The So You Think You Can Dance auditions are always good for at least a couple of these. :) I need to find out when that's starting up again...or I could just calculate based on how many more weeks of American Idol there are, I guess. - Jandy
lmao!!! knew that would pop up sometime!!! - Rob Sellen :o)
gahh. how did that not break his neck? >.< gads - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
bet there is a dent on that floor.... - Rob Sellen :o)
WTF was he thinking about...gah - Rahsheen
your ffeed is awesome...I guess pic would fit this! ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I can't look away... but I keep cringing every time the face meets the floor. - Joshua Schnell
"meet the floor" ??? wtf? his face gatecrashed the floor lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
yeeeeeha... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
:) Yeah, i think so Cagatay...there's a video link somewhere in the comments. He's safe and sound - Zee.
OMG - Jigar Mehta
ouch - Matt Bebich
Already saw that thing... but still find it hilarious! - François Lamontagne
I bet he couldn't do it again.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Makes it look like he never practiced at all! At least he'll get his 15 minutes of fame, though I'm imagining he didn't want that kind. - Michael Turner
Trying to figure out how to get animated gifs in my feed so I can get rid of all those pesky followers. - Hayes Haugen
Nothing better then an animated faceplant - Will Higgins™
OW! - imabonehead
we wondered when you would turn up and tell us what it was like "imabonehead" :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Really can't stop watching! - Ninh Nguyen
...it still hurts to watch! poor guy. - .LAG liked that
Oooosshhh - Moses Kpetigo
he fucked up - Amir
It was not funny the first five times I saw it. Then I started to giggle. Now I can't stop watching it. - Niklas Morberg
Was that a Yarmulkah or Keffiyah that fell off? - Bec Rowe @d0tski
OUCH!!! How unfortunate! - David Cook
can't stop watching it.. LMAO.. - Can Koklu
I hate watching these videos because I keep wondering what happened after, what was the damage!!.. Damn it there is no point in watching if you dont know the result. - denizoktar
Oohh dear - Moses Kpetigo
Just seeing this one makes me feel like I should spit teeth out :-o - Seth Greenblatt
Just ran across the full video today. Looks like he walked away just fine: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ken Sheppardson
lol, this wont die. - Zee.
d a m n - Derrick
Boy, that looks painful. - LaShea Miller
not the best to start off the morning, actually it is if behind the display :-D - Dobromir Hadzhiev
that hurt me si i know he was a hurting - Monique
Is that a yarmulke that flew off? - Mattb4rd
Ok, finally laying down a comment on this on. To bookmark. - Micah
Stealing this as we speak!!! - Amani
Andy Beard
When WP autosaves a draft, it should autosave all the tags and plugin data as well
While Apple enjoys having billions in the bank, some iPhone developers are having a hard time getting paid | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardwar...
"While it seems that Apple is having no problems whatsoever selling iPhone apps in the App Store, and taking money for them, the Cupertino giant is slow in passing on the developer’s share of the take." - arnaldostream from Bookmarklet
Bbbbaaaahhhhhssssttttaaaaarrrrrddddddsssss. - Robert Scoble
Apple is saving to buy twitter :D - Mihai Secasiu
I wonder if he checked to make sure his app wasn't listed as free. ;) - Joshua Schnell
It always depends on the agreement between the parts. But the programmers' testimonials gives us a hint on how the things were done.. :P - arnaldostream
What are the current open alternatives to the Kindle? No way I am paying for putting MY files on MY device, who do you think you are Amazon?
"Q3: Can I get conversion done for free? A: Yes, you can also get free conversion done in the following manner: send attachments to “name”@free.kindle.com to be converted and Amazon will convert and e-mail the documents back to your computer at the e-mail address associated with your Amazon.com account." - Meryn Stol
The Wireless doesn't work in Europe anyway. You can't even buy it in Europe I think. - Meryn Stol
"I’ve been really happy with it so far, other than the PDF support being poorly documented (it claims to handle PDFs natively in some of the literature, but you can’t actually just plop them down on the drive — it requires passing them through Amazon or converting them yourself)." from http://blag.xkcd.com/2009... - Meryn Stol
There are other e-ink ebook readers: The Sony Reader, Cybook Bookeen, iRex iLiad, and the Hanlin eReader, for example. - Michael R. Bernstein
I don't think any of the competing devices have the Kindle 2's upgraded specs, though. - Michael R. Bernstein
"you can convert any PDF file to the Kindle format for free by simply e-mailing it to your Kindle address. If your Kindle email is BRAINS@kindle.com, and you email as an attachment a PDF or txt or .doc file to that address, it will be sent through Whispernet to your Kindle. If you send the document to BRAINS@free.kindle.com, you will receive an email back with the converted file in AZW... more... - Meryn Stol
Oh well, I'm not that of a tinfoil-hat type. I do practically all of my intellectual activity in public. - Meryn Stol
The main problem of a Kindle is that you you can only order it in the US. I have asked a family member living abroad to order one for me. I probably need to use a US creditcard to buy books for it too. But better than waiting for paper books to arrive overseas, I figured. - Meryn Stol
not sure about the specs but I know several of the other ereaders had better specs than the Kindle 1, esp. when it came to the screen - so they can't be that far behind - Iphigenie
I'm really looking forward to my Kindle! I have one in two weeks or so I think. - Meryn Stol
i just won't buy something that proprietary when there are alternatives - the same as for a music player, i dont want to have to go through one private walled garden owned by one company. It's bad enough that there arent more open alternatives for mobile telephony (yet), but a system where i have to buy through amazon or pay through amazon... it's like the itunes model, all locked up and no rights to the user, not a business model i want to encourage - Iphigenie
how do you define "open alternatives to the Kindle" ? device which is tuned only for reading? e.g. including e-ink screen, which can NOT do any video because refresh is long, but battery life is better? or what? - A. T.
If you own a WIndows Mobile device, and know your way around the Internet, you are in business with regard to ebooks. It is not necessary to own a dedicated ebook reading device to read ebooks.-- numerous handheld devices and mobile phones will do the job in a satisfactory way. My favorite ebook readers are eReader Pro and Mobipocket Reader. - Sean McBride
I don't have a Kindle, but I DO have the Kindle app for my iPod Touch and very much enjoy it. I've bought a few books and found iKindle to be an enjoyable reading experience. I'm reading Greg Laurie's book "Lost Boy" right now. - Thunderwing from twhirl
AT that is a very good question - as people mention, you can read ebooks on mobile phones, PDAs and webbooks. In part it would be the screen quality - eink or high res screen that makes characters very smooth to read. (The e-ink itself would be optional, although it is a very sexy technology for what it offers, continuous display with no energy consumption) - Iphigenie
found a whole bunch of devices (see my diigo/delicious feed here in FF) and also a wiki page here: http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki... This is really one field where the dominance of Amazon in one market could hurt innovation and openness. PS: from what I can tell support for non-english languages is very absent in the Kindle, that's another nono. I read in multiple languages - Iphigenie
My biggest concern re non-Amazon ebook readers is title availability. Even not all of Amazon's current catalogue is available for Kindle... How bad must it be for other devices? My goal with buying the Kindle is to never buy a paper book again. - Meryn Stol
Amazon only sells the Kindle format, wont sell others in the future - at least many PDF options have vanished from the store (just like it banned all print-on-demand besides their own company, iirc). Most publishers offer many formats beyond Kindle and I am not aware of any one being Kindle only. It doesnt depend on Amazon but the publisher - many books are available online but not on... more... - Iphigenie
LOL It works and it was available - and I guess it is not that different from having an ipod? If you have accepted ipods and itunes, the Kindle is quite normal. Locked up but cool - that's enough for most people. If Amazon had made it just that little bit more open, so it could support more formats up front and load files direct, I'd love it too! It doesn't help that so many of the alternatives are not available on store shelves easily - you really have to search for them! - Iphigenie
well they did when amazon went wholly proprietary with print-on-demand http://www.techcrunch.com/2008... (note: i bought nothing from amazon for 8 months after that, as I dont like people abusing their power like that - I still extremely rarely from them, and mostly used) but nobody's yet mentioned much on the disappearance of non kindle format ebooks from the amazon stores. - Iphigenie
I've never paid to put 50+ books on the Kindle. I've never had to email anything to Amazon. Really, the device itself is nowhere near as locked up as people say it is. Being able to drag and drop Mobipocket converted files alone makes it more open than an iPod. - Rob H.
they have just announced it http://www.amazon.com/gp... "We have also modified the fee associated with sending personal documents wirelessly to your Kindle. This fee is now based on the size of your file. The fee for Personal Document Service (via Whispernet) is 15 cents per megabyte rounded up to the next whole megabyte." (but yes it seems that documents that... more... - Iphigenie
whispernet is not exactly wifi ... if my memory serves me Ok, it is rather "bandwidth leftovers" sold on wholesale principle to 3rd party, i.e. *radio-modem* inside kindle is not wifi but rather "classical" mobile connectivity (as much as it can be in Northern America, land of suppressed wireless communications) - A. T.
Whispernet is cellular data network. It's only available in the US, without announced plans for other countries. That's why you can't buy Kindle in Europe. If you get hold of a Kindle, you can use the Kindle in Europe though by downloading books on the Amazon website and transferring them through USB. That's my plan. - Meryn Stol
Why not buy one of the alternative devices, the Kindle is rather expensive if you cant even use all its features? - Iphigenie
My main reason for choosing the Kindle is that I can keep ordering from Amazon as I'm used to. I never even considered any alternatives. I'm very loyal to Amazon I guess. - Meryn Stol
Second reason is that I want to know what the most mainstream offering is like. This was also a motivation for me to buy an iPod vs a "generic" mp3 player. - Meryn Stol
Robert, the Mobipocket converter is closed-source and (I believe) Windows only. The .mobi format (which the Kindle .azw format is based on) is also proprietary. - Michael R. Bernstein
is there even a good ebook open format, then? - Iphigenie
I convert most of my ebooks to text or HTML, which are readable in Mobipocket and eReader. I've been doing this for years. - Sean McBride
Sony Reader (particularly 505 model) works fine for me. There is a piece of software called Book Designer — not a pretty one, but converting text files (and many other types) to PDF formatted to the proper page size, or even to the native Reader's LRF format. But if "your" files are PDF in A4 page size (as many technical books "found" in internet), you're basically out of luck with... more... - earlyadopter
Joelle, yes there is an open ebook format: http://www.openebook.org/ - Michael R. Bernstein
Thanks Michael :D - Iphigenie
My old PocketPC spends most of its existence as my ebook reader. I can store my books on my PC till I want to read them, then pop them on a CF card and I am good to go. Newer PocketPC's have more format options for books than mine, since there is more software that will run on them. (I have an old Jornada 540 with the oddball SH3 cpu). You might find a good deal on a more recent ipaq on ebay if you look. Bonus is that you can use it for a LOT more than just books. - April Russo (FForever!)
Good tip, April - as long as the battery life is good, an old PDA can have a lot of books on it :D In a way i suspect even the mp3 player i snatched cheap the other day could do text and pdf, but the screen is too small. What does reading on a device do to your reading speed, I wonder? - Iphigenie
Doesn't seem to have slowed mine down and I can read in more places that I couldn't before (like on long trips, at night). My Jornada has a little wheel on the side that I can flick with my thumb to advance pages and it's rather natural feeling to me. I doubled my battery life with a sled style cellular modem that has its own battery (PocketPC can also draw power it needs from it). It... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
The Palm T/X is a passable handheld ebook reader. - Sean McBride
Wow, the undeserved vitriol some people have for this device! There are plenty of open source programs to convert just about anything to the .mobi format (and Amazon doesn't have to know a thing). Look up Calibre for one shining example - it will even manage your library. The .mobi format could be considered proprietary, but not to Amazon - it was invented originally for Palm Pilots. In... more... - invariant
You don't have to pay Amazon to put files in the Kindle if you don't want to. It just takes a bit more effort. As invariant mentioned, all you need is a .mobi converter and that's it. Convert what you want, connect the Kindle to your computer via USB, and drag and drop/copy & paste. - rønin
@webmaven how do you know that .mobi and .azw related, if they are both proprietary ? - A. T.
There's no vitriol for this device - but there is concern that a dominating device can harm innovation, kill variety, harm availability of ebooks in other formats (with Amazon switching to no longer selling formats except Kindle, which I am sorry is an abuse-of-market-power practice), harm ebook adoption at publishers (some publishers might shy from ebooks altogether if they have to do... more... - Iphigenie
on a zdnet blog, about the same arguments http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow... - Iphigenie
A.T., It is well established that .azw is basically .mobi with encryption added. Invariant, thanks for the pointer to Calibre, I'd been looking for something like that. Any others you know of? Note that while the .mobi format was intended for Palm Pilots, the company (Mobipocket) was bought by Amazon, so it is fair to call it Amazon's proprietary format. - Michael R. Bernstein
do you reply to emails immediately if you can or do you save them all to a particular time in the day? I'm still trying to work out the best method.
I reply right away, but I know it's better for me to have set times. Responding to emails can be a timewaster - Shevonne
I just don't reply ;) - Michael Forian
I reply right away, for the most part, but I work on a project that has a 24/7 operating environment. Even though I'm a Monday-Friday 9-to-5er, a lot of emails are timebound. If I were working in a strictly 9-to-5 kind of shop, I would probably schedule email time for twice or three times a day. - Ordinarybug Heather
I save to a particular time. Unless it's urgent of course. - Dee @ Holycool.net
Depends on what they are. If they are customers or customer service related I answer them immediately. If they don't need my immediate attention then they are answered before we close or before we open the next day. - Allen Harkleroad
I reply right away (for work) - personal, not so much. - Mona Nomura
LOL to Michael. I wish I could afford that luxury. If it's something that can be immediately addressed by a reply (like an RSVP or answer to a question), then I reply immediately. For anything that requires work on my part, I schedule it in with whatever else I have to do. This applies to normal emails, if there's something very urgent then everything changes. - Jim #teamFFrank
I examine and reply right away if possible -- otherwise I mark it for future attention. I daily go through the "needs attention list" to see if I can reply to older emails or need to initiate some action to be able to do it in the future. I concentrate all work related emails in one client (Outlook for me) and religiously don't use other email accounts for work. - Brian Sullivan
I try to focus on the task at hand and ignore emails until I finish or get to a break point and want to then deal with other requests. This is at work, so if it is urgent they will call. I then clear out junk from vendors and news and look for things I can do quickly, and reply that they are done. I may flag something that is more involved, or say I will get to it later if I don't... more... - John Johnson
I use GMail. Anything I know that isn't important and doesn't need to be read or replied to right away is labeled and filtered out of my inbox. I use a 2nd inbox from GMail Labs to place a list of unread mail above the real inbox. A few times a day I go through that with the goal of emptying it. Each mail has to be read and either deleted, archived, or answered. If anything unimportant... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
I tend to reply straight away from my iPhone to anything urgent when away from my lappy. Lots of ways to deal with mail, but the best concept i've seen for mail is the Inbox Zero stuff by Merlin Mann at 43folders.com. There is a video somewhere on there of him presenting the concept to a bunch of Google guys. Great watch. Don't have the link as I'm mobile right now. - Keith Bennett from Nambu
When it comes to answering support questions, if I have to answer the same question twice, the third time I'll make a page or blog post with the answer and just send a link to it in the future. - April Russo (FForever!)
If I don't reply immediately I know I'll never do it - M F
I don't reply immediately, because I mostly online from work. - Zulkarnain K.
I apply different rules to each set of emails. But one thing I try to do is: I never stop what I'm doing when an email arrives, but instead try to read/write mail in bulks, once or twice per hour. - arnaldostream
I have a block of time set aside for checking/responding to emails. I do it 3 times a day. They way I see it, if it's urgent, they'd IM me or phone me. - Anika
At work we use Outlook. I am a huge fan of creating catagories. ie: Urgent, Pending, Keep Handy, etc. I then sort all the emails by category. It helps me prioritize and deal with the 50 taskings I get a day. - David Cook from fftogo
Since I have installed Growl, I see what the mail is about in the right corner of my screen. So I know what is in my mailbox once I go there. And when that all too important email arrives (you know the one, where you get to keep MILLIONS of dollars for helping some guy with a suitcase full of money). - Ruud van Wijngaarden
It all depends. If it needs to be replied immediately, I reply immediately. If not, I make sure to mark it as "unread". - Pandu ● IT Optimizer
Zee the best method I've ever found is the 3 folder method See "The Fix" at the bottom of this post http://www.knowthenetwork.com/blog... - Keith - @tsudo
Instantly, if possible. - Just Mrs. V
Instantly if possible. Try to get them down to under 20 in inbox at bedtime if I can. - Bora Zivkovic
mathew ingram
Twitter Connect for WordPress | Shannon Whitley [feedly] - http://www.voiceoftech.com/swhitle...
The latest version of Twit Connect allows any blog owner to self-host the entire oAuth connection process. The plugin now works just like Facebook Connect. - mathew ingram
Great progress! - Edwin Khodabakchian
the OAuth really is starting to drive a new wave of integrations for twitter - Nick Halstead
thanks for the heads-up - courtney benson
Kol Tregaskes
[TWITTER] Loic Le Meur Blog: Watch Out Twitter Spammers Got the @replies (and a solution) - http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
[TWITTER] Loic Le Meur Blog: Watch Out Twitter Spammers Got the @replies (and a solution) - http://bit.ly/JWNOg
"It had to happen. I just got my first @loic spam and there is no way to filter it. Spammers got it. It's very simple for them, they just tweet your @username, show up in your replies timeline and bingo that's the one you pay so much attention at so you won't miss it. There is no way for you to filter it. None. Yet." - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet
"update: David Stone suggests we can report spamers using the simple "@spam @username" great idea" - Kol Tregaskes
What are our options on being subscribed to by some entities named, say, Monica1983, whose often sole Twit consists of a link to porn site? I block them outright, but it's getting tedious. - ianf ⌘
I haven't been on Twitter very long and already that is turning into a problem. I hope Twitter team watches traffic patterns and reacts to mass subscriptions from spammers, but part of me knows that they barely cope with everyday growing pains and what not. So I am not a happy camper. How do the mass-twitterers approach this, let those @spams drown in the mass? - ianf ⌘
I am happy to report, Twitter is doing something about it after all. 3 hours ago one "AdaS1980" started to "follow me," but when I routinely checked on "her," the account has been <http://twitter.com/suspended> and replaced by this chatty message: "Who goes there? Sorry, the account you were headed to has been suspended due to strange activity. Mosey along now, nothing to see here." - ianf ⌘
Twitter monitors what accounts get blocked in the greatest numbers and investigate. Block offensive followers immediately and send the name to @spam as mentioned earlier. Oddly this method of spamming was taught in detail by Leo Laporte this past weekend on one of his shows. - Gregg Scott
Actually, if we have to send @spam report for every "leisure kathy" follower, this means spammers have won, disturbed our peace. I'd expect Twitter to have methods in place that measure ratios of subscription to blockage, and take action thereafter with no input from end-user, as in my latest case. - ianf ⌘
Kasper Sorensen
On Twitter; we don't like automatic rss updates. - On friendfeed; the more the better, I'm confused?
Or, in trying to differentiate them. Please educate me! - Kasper Sorensen
On FF you can filter out whats coming from the ones you are following. As mentioned in this article http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2009... - Carsten
Most people use Twitter as a 2 way communication tool. If I see a Twitter user's stream is filled with mostly updates pushed through RSS, it implies to me that the user is more interested in broadcasting as opposed to communicating. - Sharon McPherson
I feel exactly the same way, but why is it different with friendfeed? - Kasper Sorensen from IM
I think it's name answers that question - FriendFEED. It's what the service was created for, and I joined it for the purpose of being able to read the RSS feeds my friends find interesting. As I said above, that's not what Twitter is supposed to be about, imho. - Sharon McPherson
I agree Andy. I must admit that until the recent changes to FF, I used it mostly as an RSS reader. However, the real-time conversation aspect of it now makes it more of a communication medium. - Sharon McPherson
Who doesn't like automatic RSS updates on Twitter? - Ken Sheppardson
Ken: I don't mind occasional RSS updates, but if that's all someone tweets I don't follow them. However; there are some exceptions to my rule, such as keeping updated on certain services that I'm interested in. - Sharon McPherson
Thanks for your thoughts, this is really helpful. You've got some great points on why friendfeed differ from twitter. @Ken see Sharon's comment about broadcasting, it's an opinion shared by many twitter users. I have collected some of your thoughts in this blog post on the subject if you are interested: http://friendfeed.com/kasperb... - Kasper Sorensen
The difference is the number of characters. On twitter with just 140 characters you get hundreds of links without an explanation. Here you get the same but with some justification. - Richard A.
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