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Victor Ganata
If you really did a full calculation of your opportunity costs--a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis--maybe you'd realize that the government actually does quite a bit for you.
With a government elected by the people, we are doing it for ourselves. - Mike Chelen
Well, that's the theory, at least. But even with its imperfections, it's still a hell of a lot better than having to dance at the whim of an absolute monarch, with the threat of death for disobedience. - Victor Ganata
Amira
Science publishers don't care about the public. Almost all primary literature is locked behind a pay-wall - http://scienceblogs.com/webeast...
"It isn't open access, though, so apparently the Public is not allowed to read about the Public Understanding of Science unless they cough up $25 per article. They can read about "science" for cheap in their local tabloid, though. Isn't this part of the problem, too? Let's also put part of the blame on a science publishing industry that puts up barriers to reading the real stuff. (...) It's all well and good to talk about public accessibility of science, but how do you expect the public to get engaged when almost all primary literature is locked behind a pay-wall? I have access through my university, but when I want to blog about new research for friends and family, I'm stuck linking to abstracts and then summarizing everything in the paper. (...) That's why I'm cheering for PLoS - everything they publish is open access, the way it should be. It's your taxes that fund the research, you should have access to the results without me or anyone else being a mediator." - Amira from Bookmarklet
Perhaps the publishers of science journals will eventually transition? Revenue has been based on subscriptions for a long time. - Mike Chelen
See also: Mendeley ☞ Papers of researchers from 195 countries & 19,150 universities http://bit.ly/m0lng3 and "The theory of shared matter": http://bit.ly/kqZfMl - Amira
Pawel Szczesny
This is The Open Science: https://github.com/ehec-ou... Annotation of E.coli O104:H4 Genome on GitHub, sequence data under CC0.
Contributions come from industry and academia. - Pawel Szczesny
Some of the analyses are of very low quality, or simply wrong (mainly from the company that set up this wiki). Nevertheless some consensus appears to emerge, as more experts join in. - Pawel Szczesny
Well, fork off then! :) - Egon Willighagen
The analyses are in the wiki? GitHub Wikis can be forked, though only through Git itself. - Mike Chelen
Peter Binfield
Very very pleased to see us launch our API - for accessing all PLoS journals content - http://api.plos.org/ Go build something!
Checking out the examples now, interesting to see use of Javascript http://api.plos.org/examples/ - Mike Chelen
Cool, Pete - and thanks for leading the crowd once more. - Daniel Mietchen
Well, not quite (some others beat us to it, including Springer, Elsevier, Mendeley) but we have been wanting to do this for ages. Plus ours is on the full text and fully open. - Peter Binfield
I meant the "full text and fully open" part. - Daniel Mietchen
The Elsiver API one seems discontinued? (http://www.programmableweb.com/api...) Looks like Scopus has an API. others? - Carl Boettiger
Lindenbaum tools for NCBI Pubmed? http://friendfeed.com/yokofak... - joergkurtwegner
Speaking of PubMed, one of its major limitations is that it does not provide full-text search. PLoS and Mendeley do. So I think it would be useful to have a little app (e.g. a browser plugin) that takes a PubMed search, passes it on to the PLoS/ Mendeley search engines and displays the results in the context of the original PubMed search. Anyone interested in that (e.g. as a warm-up for http://ff.im/FIwlT )? - Daniel Mietchen
That's a neat idea, Daniel. - Mr. Gunn
Couple of updates for any of you entering the competition. Nephoscale are offering 10 free cloud servers for entrants using PLoS APIs see: http://blogs.plos.org/plos... And today we upgraded search to also include "search within figure caption" so now you can do cool things with our figures too. - Peter Binfield
Steven Perez
Just so you know: I always get in the last word. So there.
August 14, 2009 - Comments disabled - Share
okay. - Big Joe Silence
right... - Rob Sellen :o)
In spite of whatever Mike Nayyar says. - Steven Perez
No. No, no, no. Not another "last word" thread. Please, please, please, I'm begging you, stop the insanity! - DGentry
Sounds reasonable to me. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
I think so. - Steven Perez from IM
I think it's your vampire bunnehs - Sean Reiser
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
insanity.. here?? you sure? ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Wrong. - Ben Hanten
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Are we starting this *again*? - Michael R. Bernstein
Starting what? - Steven Perez from IM
You know, the whole 'last word' thing. It's been done. - Michael R. Bernstein
aaannnndd hide! - Alex Scrivener
No you don't - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Because I said so. - Steven Perez from IM
I beg to differ. - embee
In case anyone really doesn't know what I'm talking about, I'm referring to this: http://friendfeed.com/mikenay... - Michael R. Bernstein
No begging. - Steven Perez from IM
That Facebook thread? NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
I've covered everything. - Steven Perez from IM
'nother word out of your keyboard and no jam for you! - Janet
What FB thread? - Michael R. Bernstein
Word. - Steven Perez from IM
Down. - Steven Perez from IM
dude. what janet said... you don't want to miss the jam. i'm telling you so you can't say i didn't warn ya. - Trish Haley
Mmmmm, jam ... - Steven Perez
I love eating Janet's strawberry preserves. :) - Steven Perez
But this last word means no sugar - sugar - Janet
Mmmmm, sugar ... I love sugar ... :) - Steven Perez
No, you don't. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
You like carrots. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's not what she said. D - Steven Perez
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet - Janet
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby. - Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
What? - Steven Perez from IM
zyzzyva (n) - any of various tropical American weevils, often destructive to plants. I just gave the last word. I win ! - Faraz Mullick
Trying to do another epic comment thread, Perez??? In that case. I always get the last word in, period. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Yes. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Steven, look over your left shoulder! - Janet
YEAH!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
zzzzzzzzzzzz - Steven Perez from IM
Na na na na na I can't hear you.... - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Hey Hey ! Goodbye ! - Faraz Mullick
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
fiddlesticks - John (bird whisperer)
Pinky and The Brain. - Faraz Mullick
And yet, nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Wiley E. Coyote - Roberto Bonini
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
TELLY! - Steven Perez from IM
Beeep Beeep - Roberto Bonini
COOKIE MONSTER! - Steven Perez from IM
This is Steven's sad attempt to create a thread with a lot of comments. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you're on the highway and Road Runner goes beep beep. - Faraz Mullick
Alex: No, it's my sad attempt to create a thread with lots of comments ... THAT ORIGINATED FROM FRIENDFEED, NOT FACEBOOK. - Steven Perez from IM
Pea: well, OK. Maybe some Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
But Telly rules. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
MISSSSSSSSSSS PIGGYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
Nope, Kermit. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
But I'm right. - Steven Perez from IM
Coming from a resident of Bizarro World, I'll take that as a compliment. - Steven Perez from IM
Which, on Bizarro World, means you're wrong. - Steven Perez from IM
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, FULL OF WILD BLUEBERRIES. - Steven Perez from IM
Would that make Pea Violet? Does Pea chew gum? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Better than Pea being Salt. :D - Steven Perez from IM
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ON THE WRONG PLANET EARTH AND IS, IN FACT, ONE OF THE MISSING POWERPUFF GIRLS. - Steven Perez from IM
And I'm right. - Steven Perez from IM
But I am right. - Steven Perez from IM
You would have to be fuzzier, Pea. - Steven Perez from IM
Have another drink. You'll be plenty fuzzy then. - Steven Perez from IM
I'll take a Fuzzy Navel, if drink orders are being made. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
I'll take two beers, too. - Steven Perez from IM
Oooh, Friday Night Shots! - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
back in your dumpster, Perez! - Jim: with more caffeine!
GUINNESS FOR EVERYONE! - Steven Perez from IM
I NO HAZ A DUMMSTER. I HAZ A KRAIT. - Steven Perez from IM
U GOTZ UR KARIT OUT OF A DUMMSTER! GO BAK IN IT! - Jim: with more caffeine!
NOPE. AHM IN YUR GARDIN, STEELIN YUR VEGGEES. - Steven Perez from IM
did someone say Guinness? - Jim: with more caffeine!
Yes, please. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
What Guinness? - Steven Perez from IM
dat won, dar! - Jim: with more caffeine!
Huh what? - Steven Perez from IM
Steven, meet internets, internets meet Steven... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
O HAI INTERNETS! I HAZ LAST WURD. - Steven Perez from IM
night... mr perez. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Day, Mr. Sellen. :) - Steven Perez from IM
afternoon, gents - Jim: with more caffeine!
Tardes, mis amigos. - Steven Perez from IM
after I wake it will be mr Perez... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
DUE NE1 NO WER BUNNEHPEREZ BRAIN GOH? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
After you wake, you will know, Mr. Sellen. - Steven Perez from IM
DO NOBODY NO WHY IT PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME? - Steven Perez from IM
i hope so.. lol. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
You'll see. - Steven Perez from IM
Because I do. - Steven Perez
OH NOES, not another one of these! DYSP! - Jandy
YES! - Steven Perez
my reaction to this is almost visceral - MiniMage
Visceral? Is that like meaty? - Steven Perez
Deja vu! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
it's DAY Mr Perez.. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
That's what I hear. - Steven Perez
certainly is.. just checked. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Yep. That's why I'm going back to sleep. - Steven Perez
Not so fast...!  - Ron Thompson from iPhone
I never go fast. - Steven Perez
or slow - Rob Sellen :o)
That's what she said. Wait, what? - Steven Perez from IM
or maybe you thought she said.. - Rob Sellen :o)
Of course she said it... - Jonathan Hardesty
That's not all she said. - Steven Perez
stop? - Rob Sellen :o)
No, I'd have remembered that. - Steven Perez
No, wait, she did say that. Of course, she put the word "Don't" in front of it. - Steven Perez
aaaaah... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
That's what she said, too. :D - Steven Perez from IM
giggle... as well? ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Well, there was some light tickling involved. - Steven Perez from IM
Sounds like a party. - Jonathan Hardesty
A SEXY party. :) - Steven Perez from IM
Yeah, this thread isn't going to end well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Speak for yourself. :D - Steven Perez from IM
o really? - imabonehead
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :) - Sean McBride
eeny, meeny, miny, moe... - imabonehead
I like Shemp. - Steven Perez from IM
What about shrimp dumplings? - imabonehead
fish milkshake... - Rob Sellen :o)
I like fresh bao better. - Steven Perez
That's because Charles is in charge. - Steven Perez
OK. - Absentee
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond. - NOT THE CRICKET
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status. - NOT THE CRICKET
Acme!!! - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
BOOM... just like that - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Just like that. - Steven Perez
Huh? - τorƍue
Huh what? - Steven Perez from IM
Nevermind. - τorƍue
Bunneh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
Should I stay or should I go? - imabonehead
System.out.println("Hello World!"); - imabonehead
Um, not a bunneh. - Steven Perez from IM
You are !!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
NOPE. - Steven Perez
BUNNEH!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
O HI I COMMENTED ON YR FEED POST - Tristan Seligmann
O HAI! - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
EXACTLY. - Steven Perez from IM
I fluffed. - sofarsoShawn
in search of da bunnehz... - imabonehead
No bunnehs here. - Steven Perez
Δεν μου το νήμα. - Steven Perez
¿Qué tiene de malo? - Steven Perez from IM
這意味著什麼? - Steven Perez from IM
Would you like fries with your bunnehz? - imabonehead
Jag är inte en kanin. - Steven Perez from IM
Or a bunneh. - Steven Perez from IM
Вы не сделать смысле. - Steven Perez from IM
Ne tak docela. - Steven Perez from IM
But you are not immortal. Nyah nyah nyah. - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo
But my powers of comment control are. Nyah nyah nyah. - Steven Perez
Hey, that disable function is gonna come in real handy when I don't want to be bothered. :D - Steven Perez
lol!! - Rob Sellen :o)
That's what I said. :D - Steven Perez
Like I was saying ... :D - Steven Perez
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! - Beau Liening
That's not what I said. - Steven Perez
That's how you can tell that a man is compensating. He needs to have the last word. :-p - amygeek
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
whatever. bunneh. - Joel Robert Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
pickles - Jonathan Hardesty
puddin' - Joel Robert Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
Hey what is that in the back seat? - Steve Cleary
I forgot about those. - Steven Perez from IM
How is the salsa? - Steve Cleary
HAWT LIKE HER. WAIT, WHUT? - Steven Perez from IM
Some do like it hawt! - Steve Cleary
That's what she said. - Steven Perez from IM
And then the cows came into the barn - Steve Cleary
And kicked over the lantern. - Steven Perez from IM
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question. - Steve Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want. - NOT THE CRICKET
What? - Steven Perez
James Watt, former Secretary of Interior who strongly believed in the coming end of the world. - John E. Bredehoft
fine - sofarsoShawn
Where's the fun in that? - Steven Perez
It depends on who you're talking to - Aaman (Clone of FF)
This is silly. Everybody stop and give Perez the satisfaction of getting the final word. - Ben Parr
Who was I talking to? - Steven Perez
OK. - Steven Perez
Razzmatazz. - Michael McKean
Sassafrass. - Steven Perez
Wubba wubba wubba. - Steven Perez
What we need is an automated program to post on this thread so that SP wears out. - τorƍue
You think that would work? - Steven Perez
comment comment. - Steven Perez from IM
Steven, you have a phone call - Janet
Sorry, I didn't pay my phone bill yet. - Steven Perez from IM
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO NOT COMMENT. - Nick Humphries
About what? - Steven Perez
<(;^o, oh yes, but I get the last character. - Janet
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
nope. - imabonehead
I do. - Steven Perez
Oh come on now. Be original man! - Mike Nayyar
Says you. - Steven Perez
he probably could. - Jonathan Hardesty
What, you mean, like this? - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
This still going on? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
What is? - Steven Perez
When we launch clonefeed, this will not be tolerated - Aaman (Clone of FF)
There will be an auto-magic last word getter:) - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Really? - Steven Perez
Yes. - τorƍue
Are you sure? - Steven Perez from IM
I'm positive - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I dunno. - Steven Perez
And yes, I do. - Steven Perez
You do? - NOT THE CRICKET
I think, therefore I am. - imabonehead
Noipe. - Steven Perez
Blue. - Steven Perez
smurf - imabonehead
Burp. - Steven Perez
Technically, sound effects are not words... so I'm thinking.... word! - Fossil Huntress
I'm thinking word up! - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo
Don't think. - Steven Perez
you may not, but I do. - Jim: with more caffeine!
I try not to. - Steven Perez
Because it come naturally. - Steven Perez from IM
Bird, bird, bird... bird is the word... - Fossil Huntress
That's what she said!!! - NOT THE CRICKET
Where the hell did that bird come from? My guess is from Johnny's beard. - NOT THE CRICKET
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
I am not a lady. Or a bunneh. - Steven Perez from IM
I always do. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
idunnothinksoladdie. - Tsali - A dude man
You shouldn't use big words that you can't spell, James. - Steven Perez from IM
i'lljustblamethislackofspacingontheferrets. - Tsali - A dude man from IM
Take the ferrets out of your pants, James. - Steven Perez from IM
fine with me. take the last word. take it and shove it up Brett Favre's ass. - Morgan
I don't shove ANYTHING up a former or current cheesehead's posterior, thankyouverymuch. - Steven Perez from IM
I'llsickthemonyoulikeIdidwithAmber,that'safunstory. - Tsali - A dude man from IM
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ... - Steven Perez from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron - Tsali - A dude man from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet. - Steven Perez from IM
It's an old Navajo word for "punk-ass bitch". - Steven Perez from IM
Osiyo uneka! - Tsali - A dude man from IM
i speak Nav-a-ho (not to be confused with Navajo) - and punk-ass bitch is pronounced Perez comma Steven Last Word Not Getter - Morgan
I thought you spoke Slap-a-ho. And we all know that "Morgan Haley" is Lakota for "still wets the bed". - Steven Perez from IM
hey, can i help it if your mom makes me cum that much? - Morgan
and I liked the 'Slap-a-ho' comment...funny stuff...but you didn't hear that from me, ok? - Morgan
My mom doesn't have four legs, Morgan. :D - Steven Perez from IM
Then WHO'S mom is she? Damn!!! I need to check ID's a little more carefully from now on!!!! - Morgan
In the future, just make sure that she doesn't bark. On purpose. - Steven Perez from IM
Great. Take away ALL the fun right from the start! What. EV. ERRRRRR. - Morgan
Hey, you lie down with dogs ... - Steven Perez
I wouldn't know. - Steven Perez from IM
maybe it was steven's mom, but he is ashamed of how she earns 75 cents a day....hmmmm.... - Morgan
How many times I gotta tell you, Morgana? Stop sleeping with four-footed animals. - Steven Perez from IM
Laugh it up, Fuzzball. - Steven Perez
No, you didn't... 9) - Zu from AOD
I got the last word on another thread of yours, just saying - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Not yet, you didn't. - Steven Perez from IM
What what? - Steven Perez from IM
Who what? - Steven Perez from IM
And by IM, yeah then you'll get it, I won't fight on that ground ;p - Zu from AOD
That's where. - Zu from AOD
Huh? - Steven Perez from IM
Cuz. - Steven Perez from IM
Auntie. - Steven Perez
Paul, can you please close this thread, after commenting? - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - imabonehead
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
One thing you cannot do and we can, is like this post, so we win there. - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Perez's law: The last word spoken cannot be un-spoken, unless its a FF comment thread. - Roberto Bonini
Actually, Perez's Law states "A hot redheaded woman must be obeyed at all times." But I digress. - Steven Perez from Android
Later. - Steven Perez
k. - Ben Parr
Yep. - Steven Perez
well play'd bump, ;) - chaz2b
I thought so. - Steven Perez from IM
Stop the madness. - DGentry
No sighing aloud here, Kaia. - Steven Perez
Damn you REALLY do!! - Chris Myles
Only on this thread really, and only when he's awake - Aaman (Clone of FF)
That's what I've been saying. - Steven Perez
Yeah, that's why your comment shows up. - Steven Perez
Make it $10. I'll have killed this thread before then. - Steven Perez
2 cents.. - Chris Myles
3 cents. - John E. Bredehoft
Nerf Herder - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
I've heard better. - Steven Perez
Yep. - Steven Perez
wut? - AJ Batac
Yep. - Steven Perez
Really? Huh. I'll have to remember that. - Carlton Prest
Good. - Steven Perez
wonders who will tire of this first - Sean Reiser
Me, neither. - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Cuz. - Steven Perez
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Boo! - Penny
AIIEE! *drops pants* - Steven Perez from IM
Underwear? - Steven Perez
Caroline, let's eat first. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
On a mid-sunday afternoon on the saturday prior, there was an event of grandiose platitudes. - Tsali - A dude man
OK. - Steven Perez
HA HA! - Steven Perez
oh no you don't... ;) - Abhishek
Yep. - Steven Perez
A douchebag will write the next comment. - Djordje Lukic
Nope, you're wrong. A douchebag wrote the previous comment. - Steven Perez
Darn - Djordje Lukic
Damn, even. - Steven Perez
You are loving this ... aren't you? - Chris Myles
A little. - Steven Perez
Becuz ah wuv woo. - Steven Perez
zyzzyva - Kim Landwehr from BuddyFeed
Huh? - Steven Perez
Where? - Steven Perez
Mine. - Steven Perez from IM
i believe that would be "word", john. - Yolanda
How? - Steven Perez
Later. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Later. - Steven Perez
Maybe. - Steven Perez from IM
Probably. - Steven Perez
Always? Sometimes! - Ian May
Booze. - Steven Perez
In plenitude. - Steven Perez
No. - Steven Perez
Wrong again... - Liza + = ?
Dunno. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - Steven Perez
o_O - Steven Perez from IM
Me too. - Rahsheen
I forgot what it was now - Ian May
Yah. - Steven Perez from IM
Vista or OS 9? - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
Huh? - Steven Perez
What? - Steven Perez
I haz coffee - Ian May
I haz tea. - Steven Perez
i haz T2! - Big Joe Silence
...what are these "last words" you speak of? - .LAG liked that
Laters. - Steven Perez from IM
You really think so! - Gwen Sutton
I'm sure the 'last word' appreciates your decision to use lube... - Johnny from iPhone
o_O - Steven Perez
I would like to register a complaint! "o_O" is not a word. - Ian May
Sorry, you'll have to call back when the Complaint Department is open. - Steven Perez from IM
I've resisted the urge before, but I just HAVE to make him say something else. - MiniMage
Say what? - Steven Perez
What what. - Steven Perez
I am drinking a pint of water. - Ian May
Yeah. - Steven Perez
Nope. - imabonehead from Android
Whoa It is Hawt in here - - Steve Cleary
Maybe. - Steven Perez
Cockles & Mussells alive alive o! - Ian May
Huh? - Steven Perez
Google Bookmarks - Ian May
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Bah. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
What would happen if someone other than you posted something, and FriendFeed immediately crashed...FOREVER??? - John E. Bredehoft
Nuthin. - Steven Perez
He's right. What evidence would there be that he hadn't got the last word, if we couldn't access it? - MiniMage
You'd just have to trust me. - Steven Perez
Trust...You? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yup. :) - Steven Perez from IM
SHHHHHHHHH ... EDITING PODCAST NAO. - Steven Perez from IM
Night. ; ) - Fossil Huntress
Nope. - Steven Perez
Steven, I was agreeing with you. - MiniMage
Huh? - Steven Perez
Do what? - Steven Perez
Which one? - Steven Perez from IM
Huh? - Steven Perez from IM
Huh? - Steven Perez
I hereby grant you permission to have the last word. Carry on. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
YAY! - Steven Perez from IM
Can anyone chip in? - Son of Groucho
Don't see why not. - Steven Perez from IM
[chips in] - Nick Humphries
busy busy busy - Steven Perez from IM
very busy very busy very busy - Steven Perez from IM
No one has the slightest idea how much Steven is enjoying this... - Abhishek
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy - Steven Perez from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY - Steven Perez from IM
whateva. - Ordinarybug Heather
TWSS. - Steven Perez from IM
great way to get comments. - Gwen Sutton
What is? - Steven Perez from IM
What? - Steven Perez
I do? - Steven Perez
Who is? - Steven Perez
Huh? - Steven Perez
DOES NOT COMPUTE. - Steven Perez
49 20 61 6d 20 6e 6f 74 20 70 72 65 73 73 69 6e 67 20 61 6e 79 20 62 75 74 74 6f 6e 73 20 74 6f 64 61 79 2e - Steven Perez
That made no sense. - Steven Perez
I'm sure this whole thread makes no sense. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
NO KICKING. - Steven Perez
OU812 - Steven Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez
3.14 - Steven Perez
34/0 - Steven Perez
*brings FF back to life* - Steven Perez
*puts FF resurrection on infinite loop* - Steven Perez
ERROR: EXISTING LOOP IN MEMORY. "PEREZ GETS LAST WORD" ALREADY IN PROGRESS. - Steven Perez
PROGRAM "PEREZ GETS LAST WORD" LOADED INTO BIOS. DO NOT ALTER. - Steven Perez from IM
ERROR. ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM ACTIVATED. TARGETING ROGUE ELEMENT. DELETION IN PROGRESS. - Steven Perez from IM
SMART AGENTS HAVE ISOLATED ROGUE ELEMENTS FROM SYSTEM. NOW TRANSFERRING TO MOEBIUS LOOP. - Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENTS LOCKED IN MOEBIUS LOOP. ISOLATION COMPLETE. SYSTEM IS SAFE. - Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENT ATTEMPTING ESCAPE. 1.2% CHANCE OF SUCCESS. - Steven Perez
STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY TESTED BY ROGUE ELEMENT. NO BREACH DETECTED. - Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENT STILL ATTEMPTING ESCAPE. FRANKLY, IT'S QUITE HILARIOUS. - Steven Perez
STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY INTACT. TICKLES. - Steven Perez
O HAI. - Steven Perez
Hawt Hawt Hawt the binge of boredom limps on - Steve Cleary
Huh? - Steven Perez
This Ends Now - Aaman (Clone of FF)
What, now? - Steven Perez from IM
Artificial deadlock; stalemate; ennui borne by inertia. - Absentee
duh, not another one!! how many threads shud i let people know that i haz d last word always?! - Gtp19
Not this one. - Steven Perez from IM
eveyone of them. period. - Gtp19
OK. But not here. I have the last word. - Steven Perez from IM
<clears throat>....um, this is the last woid! - .LAG liked that
O RLY? - Steven Perez from IM
orally - Big Joe Silence
That's what they said. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - Steven Perez
Oh, quit enabling him, everybody. :-P - Ordinarybug Heather
Yeah! - Steven Perez
No way :p - Sasha Kovaliov
Way. - Steven Perez from IM
That's the IM way - cheating! Go web! :D - Sasha Kovaliov
Blah blah blah. - Steven Perez from IM
Hide. - April Buchheit
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Ok, ur wish. - Abhishek
That's what I said. - Steven Perez from IM
I said that too. - Ian May
Sounds familiar. - Just Mrs. V
Really? - Steven Perez
Yep - Just Mrs. V
I don't believe you, Katie. - Steven Perez from IM
Well that's just too bad. - Just Mrs. V
Oh, really? - Steven Perez
So - AJ Batac
Nope, you're wrong. - Steven Perez from IM
Have you ever been at a loss for words? - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
Only in the presence of a beautiful woman. - Steven Perez from IM
dude's smooth :) - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
That's what she said. :D - Steven Perez from IM
So it's 'he said, she said' now, is it? - Ian May
That's what she said. :D - Steven Perez from IM
That goes without saying. - Steven Perez from IM
Good thing we're not in Tennessee. - Steven Perez from IM
it pops up a lot doesn't it? - Ian May
Only when the wind blows. - Steven Perez from IM
I would. - Steven Perez from IM
I did. - Ian May
That's what she said. - Steven Perez from IM
Seeing is believing - Nicholas Paul Gordon from iPhone
That's what she said, too. - Steven Perez
Huh? - Steven Perez
Is that Klingon? - Steven Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez
NUH-UH - NOT THE CRICKET
YEP. - Steven Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Oh this game again. - Sparky, lurking
What game? Tiddlywinks? - Steven Perez from IM
Would you like fries with your beef bulgogi? - imabonehead
What about the vegan menu? - Steven Perez from IM
I like turtle, is that vegan? - NOT THE CRICKET
Tastes like chicken. - Steven Perez
I thought the bird was the word? :-p - Live4Emma (L4S)
Only when you're awake - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Urgh. - Steven Perez from IM
meh. - imabonehead
Bah. - Steven Perez
Feh. - Steven Perez from IM
The rain takes a breather here and shows up during rush hour. - Steven Perez
I'm just passing thru... - Ian May
NOM NOM NOM. - Steven Perez from IM
good morning, intrawebs! - imabonehead
NO MORE CARDBOARD. - Steven Perez from IM
No revisions necessary. - Steven Perez from IM
In Soviet Russia,... - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Kaia has lost her mind. - Steven Perez from IM
Found what? - Steven Perez from IM
Is a smiley a word, technically? - Absentee
L:O:L - NOT THE CRICKET
Word Up! - Ian May
Huh? - Steven Perez
OK. - Steven Perez from IM
Negative. - imabonehead
Positive. - Steven Perez
win - Kevin Nunez
That's what I said. - Steven Perez
That's what he said. - imabonehead
Dear Scott, Hell, no. Regards, Me. - Steven Perez
Ste... lose. - NOT THE CRICKET
Huh what? - Steven Perez
Yup. - Steven Perez from IM
I guess I should have been clearer, Steven... lose. - NOT THE CRICKET
Ah. In that case, NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Yah. - Steven Perez from IM
Sweet. - NOT THE CRICKET
Steven just lost the game. - NOT THE CRICKET
He will fight back. :/ - Faraz Mullick
But he disagreed with me, in saying it was futile and he wouldn't lose. - NOT THE CRICKET
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
You did too. - NOT THE CRICKET
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Maybe you do, but you'll never have the 777th comment on this post! - invariant
So? - Steven Perez from IM
Ok, looks like I'm just going to have to disable comments then. - NOT THE CRICKET
You mean, like this? - Steven Perez
HA HA! - Steven Perez from Android
You. - Steven Perez from Android
Dammit, I thought I closed these comments last night. What is going on? - NOT THE CRICKET
O RLY? - Steven Perez from IM
SRSLY! - NOT THE CRICKET
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
That's what they said. - Steven Perez from IM
…and the last spit-take? - Absentee
The very last. - Steven Perez from IM
I SAID AYE! - Steven Perez from IM
I SAID JAY! - John E. Bredehoft
That just means the rest of you are wrong. - Steven Perez from IM
Nuh uh. - Chris Charabaruk
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post? - Mike Nencetti
I would just post. - Steven Perez from IM
Mike, you need to go back and read. - LB creeps me out.
Nah, just post. - Steven Perez from IM
Good thing my name is Steven, then. :D - Steven Perez from IM
lol - Kevin Nunez
Steven Perez, you owe me $50 bucks in iTunes giftcards if you reply. ^_^ - Kevin Nunez
Yah. :D - Steven Perez from IM
so where's mah moneh >.< - Kevin Nunez
I would never give out so crappy a gift. Besides, I gots no monies. - Steven Perez from IM
Tough break. Maybe after I move, I might feel more generous. - Steven Perez from IM
Sounds about right. - Steven Perez from IM
Well, I've DJ'd before. Does that count? - Steven Perez from IM
Ain't no maybe about it. - Steven Perez from IM
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha - Tinfoil 2.0
I WILL NOT BROOK IMPOSTERS. - Steven Perez
Hawt Mosquitoes invading the house tonight - looking for flamethrowers to knock down the buzzzzzzz - Steve Cleary
Yikes. - Steven Perez
Still trying to get the last word in? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Trying? :) - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Yep. - imabonehead
OK. - Steven Perez
Qu'est-ce que c'est? - Bryce Roney
Psycho Killer? - Tinfoil 2.0
Huh? - Steven Perez
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa better Run run run run run run run away - Tinfoil 2.0
Um, OK. - Steven Perez from IM
We need to talk about the way you treat us. - NOT THE CRICKET
NOPE. IT'S ICE CREAM TIME. - Steven Perez from IM
CILANTRO ICE CREAM?? - NOT THE CRICKET
DUH. - Steven Perez from IM
Can you treat us to some? - NOT THE CRICKET
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Cilantro Cheerios. - Tinfoil 2.0
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Why not? - NOT THE CRICKET
And apparently it takes bunnehs forever to scoop ice cream. - NOT THE CRICKET
NOM NOM NOM ICE CREAM. - Steven Perez
will you have the last word already? - Robert Scoble
n. o. p. e. - Steven Perez from IM
I think this will be around 'til the day Friendfeed dies... - Carlton Prest
I closed them for him last night, so he won. - NOT THE CRICKET
or later - Ian May
N. O. P. E. - Steven Perez
Y . E . P . - imabonehead
Bacon - Ian May
ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO WIN? - Steven Perez from IM
DO NOT TEST ME. I WILL PUT CILANTRO IN YOUR COCOA PUFFS. - Steven Perez from IM
You mean 'more cilantro in my cocoa puffs', right? - Sparky, lurking
I MEANT WHAT I SAID. - Steven Perez from IM
AN ELEPHANT'S FAITHFUL - LB creeps me out.
HEY! STOP SHOUTING! - Steven Perez from IM
IT'S MY COMMENT AND I'LL SHOUT IF I WANT TO, SHOUT IF I WANT TO, SHOUT IF I WANT TO..... - Jandy
I tried Shout brand laundry detergent once but I wasn't impressed. - Jonathan Hardesty
@Dave: Come on now. ;-D - Absentee
Thanks, Dave. :) - LB creeps me out.
ARE YOU STILL GOING? - Steven Perez from IM
YEP, ARE YOU? - NOT THE CRICKET
Where are we going? - LB creeps me out.
I'm going to a picnic. - Steven Perez from IM
I am a picnic. - Sparky, lurking
don't forget to pick us up. - imabonehead
Sorry, this picnic is by TARDIS only. - Steven Perez from IM
3 billion. - Steven Perez from IM
and 1.. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
No, me! - LB creeps me out.
That doesn't surprise me. - Steven Perez from Android
zyzzyva (n) - any of various tropical American weevils, often destructive to plants I believe that's the last word. - motownmutt
48 more comments and you have surpassed the three men on a beach doing the nasty stuff with moobage. Let's get on it. - Janet
I see others have already submitted my entry for zyzzyva. - motownmutt
10 GO TO - motownmutt
O RLY? - Steven Perez from IM
O HAI! - Steven Perez from IM
Well, then, stop crying. - Steven Perez
LIES! - Mattb4rd
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
damn :/ - Mattb4rd
That's the way it goes. - Steven Perez from IM
That way. - Steven Perez from IM
Ice cream? Where? - Steven Perez from IM
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? - Steven Perez from IM
Why? Because I won't shut up. And you're welcome. :D - Steven Perez from IM
Last word? - Sparky, lurking
Is mine. - Steven Perez from IM
Or mine. - Sparky, lurking
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
What about this time? - Sparky, lurking
OR THIS TIME. - Sparky, lurking
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Uh, no. - Steven Perez from IM
Why not? - Sparky, lurking
And I'll be checking in on the road. So there. - Steven Perez from IM
O. M. G. - Steven Perez from IM
Yay! O.M.G. is not a word, it's an acronym! FF Wins - DYSP! :) - Mattb4rd
Actually, it's three words. - Steven Perez from IM
If I said it, then yes. - Steven Perez from IM
Doesn't matter. I said it, therefore it is. - Steven Perez from IM
Doh! - Mattb4rd
A deer. - Steven Perez from IM
A female deer. - Sparky, lurking
Ray. - Steven Perez
No, dummy, a drop of golden sun. - Steven Perez from IM
And a few teaspoonfuls of LSD! - Sparky, lurking
o_O Um, no. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. Mine. - Steven Perez from IM
Who wants 1000? I'm willing to bet it's S. Perez... - Sparky, lurking
I'm not keeping count, so I don't care. - Steven Perez from IM
You just want to be max(n) regardless of n? - Sparky, lurking
Last. Word. Period. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - imabonehead
Yep. - Steven Perez from IM
Dang! - Gwen Sutton
<inserts ASCII art penis into the conversation> - Sparky, lurking
<inserts ASCII LOLcat into conversation> - Steven Perez from IM
I CAN HAS LAST WORD? - Sparky, lurking
NO YOU CANNOT HAZ LAST WORD. NOT YOURZ. - Steven Perez from IM
OH HAI, AKCHULY LAST WORD IS MINE. - Sparky, lurking
LAST WURD IZ MINEZ. YUR ARGUMUNT IZ UNVALAD. - Steven Perez from IM
UNVLAD SOUNDS LIKE A VAMPIRE> SUCKS OUT LAST WORD FROM NECK OF BUNNEH. - Sparky, lurking
UNVALAD IZ NOT VAMPYRE. UNVALAD IZ YU HAVIN LAST WURD. - Steven Perez from IM
I prefer a nice, leisurely stroll. - Steven Perez from IM
*yawn* - Steven Perez from IM
*yawn* *yawn* - Steven Perez from IM
*yawn* is not a word. It's a sound. - John E. Bredehoft
It is when I say it. - Steven Perez from IM
I still have not read this thread... - Mike Nencetti
Just as well. - Steven Perez from IM
Bah. I'm allowed to be as rude as I want. - Steven Perez from IM
Bah. - Steven Perez from IM
O HAI NIQUE. - Steven Perez from IM
Bah. Feh. - Steven Perez from IM
I keep recommending a week of rest. - Sean McBride
I'm about to have more than a week's worth of rest. - Steven Perez
Leaving us to have the last word. - Sparky, lurking
That's what you think. - Steven Perez from IM
A boy can dream, can't he? - Sparky, lurking
He can. After all, I've met the King of Dreams before, and he says that boys can dream all they want. - Steven Perez from IM
*dreams of the King of Dreams* He's so dreamy! - Sparky, lurking
And strangely enough, the Dream King looks like Neil Gaiman. - Steven Perez from IM
Bah. Feh. - Steven Perez from IM
Interesting. They look a little younger and a little blonder than what I had in mind. - Steven Perez
Um, no, actually. - Steven Perez
Hawt today then later it cooled down - couple Modelo's helped too - Steve Cleary
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Nope. This is more like it: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Steven Perez
OK. I go now. Have fun with this til I get back. - Steven Perez
Hawt Cha Cha Cha - Steve Cleary
BOO! - Steven Perez
HUH? - Steven Perez
This again? - Sparky, lurking
WHAT? - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
So did I. - Steven Perez
Me, too! - Absentee
yoo hoo! - Ian May
Are you guys still trying to win? - Steven Perez from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments... - Joe from iPod
Ya think? - Steven Perez from Android
Good Morning, Steven! - NOT THE CRICKET
Good morning, Jimminy. - Steven Perez from Android
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose? - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Not today. - Steven Perez
Indeed. - Steven Perez
DYSP, just disable additional comments and get over with it! :) - Jemm
Maybe. - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
It would be fun for me. - Steven Perez
No, I think it's me. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Yes. - Steven Perez
Eleven Hundred! WOW! - Ian May
1 + 1 = 11 - imabonehead
1 + 1 = 3 for exceptionally large values of 1. - DGentry
Huh? - Steven Perez from Android
no way - AJ Batac
1 X 1 = 1111 - imabonehead
Sunshine Morning, Coffee Time! - Ian May
Math is hard. - Steven Perez from IM
BUNNEH - Simon Wicks
NOPE AND NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
No soup for u today! Get back end of line! - imabonehead
RONG. - Steven Perez
WORD WORD - Steven Perez
Would you like a milk shake to go with your WORD, sir? - imabonehead
Nope, pancakes. - Steven Perez from IM
What about omlettes? - Sparky, lurking
*spanking for Kaia* - Steven Perez from IM
winner of most commented upon thread, ever, +1111 mr perez, ;) - chaz2b
Yep. - Steven Perez
Sleepy. - Steven Perez
Doing 100 jumping jacks will make you less sleepy, sir. - imabonehead from Android
That will also make me barf. - Steven Perez from IM
last word. - Mattb4rd
is mine. - Steven Perez from IM
DYSP DY! - Mattb4rd
I've heard that before. - Steven Perez from IM
All the time, I hear it. - Steven Perez from IM
Everything. - Steven Perez
ln -s Everything /dev/null - imabonehead
DOES NOT COMPUTE. - Steven Perez
To err is human, to human is to err, but to be bunneh is purely Steven Perez. - Tsali - A dude man
NOPE. NOT A BUNNEH. - Steven Perez from IM
So sayeth thine who is accused. - Tsali - A dude man
YEP. NOT A BUNNEH. #NOTABUNNEH - Steven Perez from IM
I see no proof there - #PEREZISABUNNEH #PROOF - Tsali - A dude man
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE. #NOTABUNNEH #NEVERBEENABUNNEH #AINTNEVERGONNABEABUNNEH - Steven Perez from IM
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker. - Tsali - A dude man
Um, no. - Steven Perez
why no - Janet
Cuz. - Steven Perez
Happy Labor Day! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
It was, until the day went POOF. - Steven Perez from IM
Steven a bunneh dies every time your name is at the bottom of this comment list! Save the bunnehs please! - Janet
Really? - Steven Perez from IM
pssszzzzzzzzzth, the sound of another senseless bunneh death - Janet
Where? - Steven Perez from IM
Who??? - Roberto Bonini
That's what I was asking Janet. - Steven Perez from IM
Missed you big guy... - Janet
I missed you, too, my little strawberry of love. :) - Steven Perez from IM
Breaking News.. More Bunnehs die. :( - Mathew A. Koeneker
grep "BUNNEH" Steven\ Perez - imabonehead
ERROR: STEVEN PEREZ IS NOT A BUNNEH. - Steven Perez from IM
Yes, it is aN error that Steve Perez is not a Bunneh, because HE IS A BUNNEH! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
NOPE. - Steven Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
NOPE. NOPE. NOPE. - Steven Perez
LAST. - Steven Perez
THERE. - NOT THE CRICKET
LAST WORD. - Steven Perez from IM
werd. - imabonehead
Just. - NOT THE CRICKET
LAST. WORD. - Steven Perez from IM
Perez!!!!! - NOT THE CRICKET
BUNNEH! - Bryce Roney
NOT. - Steven Perez from IM
A. - Steven Perez from IM
BUNNEH. - Steven Perez from IM
return of the BUNNEH. - imabonehead
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Define the term: "last word," please. - .LAG liked that
...werd... - NOT THE CRICKET
I always imagined the last word would be in 'I think we are save in the shed' - Ruud van Wijngaarden
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
hee hee. - Steven Perez from IM
ha - Craig Eddy
Bunnehs are the tastiest! - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Huh? - Steven Perez from Android
Wha? - Absentee
whut? - Imabug
That's what I said. - Steven Perez from IM
Who? - Absentee
JACK BURTON. ME. - Steven Perez from IM
And then what happened? - Steven Perez from IM
Whaaa—? - Absentee
And then what? - Steven Perez from IM
Whaaaa—t? - Absentee
DOH! - Steven Perez from Android
Does 'doh! count as a word? Is it in the dictionairy? - Ruud van Wijngaarden
forealz. - Tsali - A dude man
WEV. - Steven Perez from Android
Hawt times in the ole town 2 nite - hawt cha cha cha - Steve Cleary
It is quite humid, actually. - Steven Perez from Android
*waves back* - Steven Perez from IM
Hi Steven - Scoble, Alex Scoble
O HAI, ALEX. :) - Steven Perez from IM
THIS AGAIN? - Sparky, lurking
How's it going? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not like it ever ended, Sparky. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Wet. - Steven Perez from IM
Dripping wet. - Sparky, lurking
It never ends, Sparky.. - Steven Perez from IM
And muddy, too. - Steven Perez from IM
he who speaks last, talks slowest - Mike Chelen
You mean it never ends until someone else gets the last word. - Sparky, lurking
Pics or the muddy didn't happen. - Sparky, lurking
Not now. I'm in bed. Maybe tomorrow. - Steven Perez from IM
*fist bump from bed* - Sparky, lurking
Well, I say "bed" when I really mean "couch". Housesitting can be a real drag. - Steven Perez from IM
No dogs. - Steven Perez
Meow. - Steven Perez
rawr! - imabonehead
Rawr rawr! - Steven Perez
Score! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
That is 7 hrs Stefan. Have you cried Uncle Mati? ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker
NOPE. - Steven Perez
5.30pm: more coffee. - Ian May
I'm all for that. - Steven Perez from IM
What??? - Roberto Bonini
OMG NOT THIS AGAIN ... oh, wait ... - Steven Perez from IM
I request to have the last word on the 16th, it would mean so much to me. - Janet
OK. - Steven Perez from IM
wooh after 1114 comments.. still going.. coolio.. - Simply Teeeya
That's what I say. :) - Steven Perez from IM
gotta give it to ya.. you really do have the last word it seems.. - Simply Teeeya
Yes, I do. :) - Steven Perez from IM
quite an achievement :) - Simply Teeeya
happy 1 month anni. :) - chaz2b
lol! one month! - Simply Teeeya
YAY! ONE MONTH! - Steven Perez
*yawns* wuteva - Ordinarybug Heather
Bah on your wev. - Steven Perez
How many vampire's have you decimated in battle? - NOT THE CRICKET
40 billion. - Steven Perez from IM
40 billion. - Steven Perez
cash??? - Roberto Bonini
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Me, too. - Steven Perez from IM
How many milfs would a bunneh milf if a bunneh could milf milfs? - Sparky, lurking
Hard to say. #notabunneh - Steven Perez from IM
You meant #totallyisabunneh - it's a common typo. - Sparky, lurking
Nope. Used a spell checker and everything. #sototallynotabunneh - Steven Perez from IM
wordy, word, word... - Fossil Huntress
WORD. - Steven Perez
O RLY? - Steven Perez
BUNNEH!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
word - Simply Teeeya
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
YEP. - Steven Perez from IM
You betcha! - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
YAH. - Steven Perez from IM
No, srsly! - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
SRSLY? - Steven Perez from IM
Did you fart? - Ian May
Not yet. - Steven Perez from IM
When I say. - Steven Perez
When you admit you're #TotallyABunneh. - Ordinarybug Heather
nope. - Steven Perez
waves :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
*waves back* - Steven Perez
I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish but BUNNEH PEREZ HAS ONE OF THE BEST LAST WORD'S OF ALL TIME! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Thank you, Z. :) - Steven Perez from IM
You wish. It is I who gets the last word. Ask my hubby - @CrystalinaB
Yes, but I'm not your hubby. :D - Steven Perez from IM
I'm scared to open the thread to see who bunneh is responding to. There I said it. Bunneh!!!! - Roberto Bonini
NOT BUNNEH. - Steven Perez from IM
PERO NO SOY UN CONEJO! - Steven Perez from IM
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Is that so? - Lola Bean (Penguin)
Maybe. Ask me again later, and I might give you the last word. If, you know, you gave us a stripey socks photo. Just sayin'. - Steven Perez
The question of the day is: To be or not to be! - imabonehead
The answer of the day is: mebbe. - Steven Perez
Darn. I got it wrong. I had '12 yellow wilderbeasts' - Ruud van Wijngaarden
cabbages - Simon Wicks
A baby's arm holding an apple! - Ruud van Wijngaarden
What? - Steven Perez
I bet Scoble wishes he had thought of this. :) - Mattb4rd
He doesn't have the patience to keep something like this. - Steven Perez from IM
*yawns* *scratches knee* *gets back to work* - Ordinarybug Heather
Whut? - Steven Perez
Now that I have achieved status of half-centurian, I request the next 50 days of last word in honor of my achievement of breathing. - Janet
Well, well, well. Has it been 50 days already? - Steven Perez
89, but who's counting? ;) - Prosey BUTTONS!
Ah, but I promised Janet that she could have the last word for 50 days. And now that this time has passed, I have the last word. Again. - Steven Perez
Not yet. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
YEP. - Steven Perez from IM
Your lips are flapping, but you aren't saying anything. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
As usual. - Steven Perez from IM
But I still have the last word. - Steven Perez from IM
Not yet. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yup. - Steven Perez from IM
Not yet. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Um, yup. - Steven Perez from IM
I don't know in what country you live in that not having the last word means you have the last word, but umm ok...NOT! - Scoble, Alex Scoble
nope - Jan Ole Peek
You'd have to break all of our fingers, toes and remove our tongues and eyeballs to ever truly get last word on this thread. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Nope. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope exactly. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Eventually, the whole thread will go backwards to the beginning. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
That sounds like more fun than I imagine you wanted it to. - Steven Perez from IM
Nope. All things end, - Steven Perez from IM
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
You mean, I went backwards? Poo. - Steven Perez from IM
This thread is like Frankenstein. It keeps coming back to life. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Sometimes when you play in the mud you get your dingy dirty. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Why would you drag a boat into mud? - Steven Perez from IM
To be last on this thread, obviously. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
You get awful tired doing that. - Steven Perez from IM
B - Ian May
Z. I win. - Steven Perez
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
nyar wobbles potatoes snip snip flaboigan flargin pooooooooooosessssssssions KITTAH! - Tsali - A dude man
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
totally. - Tsali - A dude man
There? Where? Under the stair! A little mouse with clogs on... - Ian May
Where wolf? There wolf. - Steven Perez from IM
oh snap. - Tsali - A dude man
You will get this. - Ian May
Nope. - Steven Perez
Additional Addendum - Steven Perez from IM
Post Additional Addendum Addendum - Marty
1203 comments, come on, you can do better than that. - Tsali - A dude man
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad. - Steven Perez from IM
shut down? - Ian May
Yes, by request. Janet wanted to have the last word for 50 days. I did. - Steven Perez from IM
NO SECRET CODES. - Steven Perez
What about the Konami code? - Sparky, lurking
UP UP DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT A B X START - Steven Perez
No, this is cheating: UP DOWN LEFT DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT UP RIGHT B A START - Steven Perez
Holy cow, y'all are still encouraging him with this? - Ordinarybug Heather
chee - Ian May
TING! - Ian May
I dare not hit the more comments - Valz 4 TEAMMARINA
Me, too. And it's my thread. - Steven Perez from IM
yes, it's his thread. - Ian May
WOULD YOU LIKE A TREATMENT? - Steven Perez from IM
fascinating - Tsali - A dude man from IM
Hawt Hawt Hawt :->) Wondered when this one would PoP back onTHElines - Steve Cleary
OU812 - Steven Perez
Phuh sheezy! - Scoble, Alex Scoble
BRICK. HAAWSE. - Steven Perez
I thought this would one day end, with Steven having the last word. But I now know this thread will live untill 2012. At least. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
This thread will continue on until the year 4217. - Tsali - A dude man
no, 2012. - Abhishek
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :) - Tsali - A dude man
Nope. - Steven Perez
Whut? - Steven Perez
fo realz? - Tsali - A dude man from IM
Huh? - Steven Perez
thats what she said - chaz2b
when did this turn into Beavis and Butthead? - Tsali - A dude man from IM
thats what he said - chaz2b
Say what? - Steven Perez
Ni huh? - Steven Perez from IM
No you don't! - Jeff P. Henderson
Maybe you smell of elderberries. - Steven Perez from IM
Ah, right thread. In that thread, it's asked what you think you smell like. In this thread, I told you what I think you smell like. - Steven Perez from IM
Cilantro, Strawberries, and Chilaquiles. - Steven Perez
Ginger, cherries and creme brulee. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you say one more word Steven I will ban you from friendfeed. - @CrystalinaB
So I won't say that label that you said I couldn't say anymore. :) - Steven Perez from IM
I always do what Crystalina says. I don't want to be blocked. :D - Steven Perez from IM
blockedy blockedy blocked - Scoble, Alex Scoble
where? - Ian May
NOPE. - Steven Perez
I think it is. - Ian May
I SAID NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 20899862803482 - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
WHAT YOU SAY? - Steven Perez
3.14 and so on... on 22 over 7 if you like to think fractionally. - Ian May
NOPE. 22/7. - Steven Perez
Werd. - imabonehead from Android
NOPE. - Steven Perez from IM
Negatory on that NOPE, sir. - imabonehead from Android
Huh What? - Steven Perez from IM
I LIKE PIE. - Steven Perez
Hey, wait a minute, I like pie! - Eric - It's My Thing
SO SAY WE ALL. - Steven Perez
Grand - Mitch
Oh, my head. - Steven Perez
Take some advil. - Sparky, lurking from iPhone
I did. I should stop banging my head on the bed frame. - Steven Perez from IM
Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? - Ian May
Hard to say; I usually swallow my gum. - Steven Perez
Better than ending up in my hair again. - Steven Perez from IM
That's true - Jonathan Hardesty
OK, tell me why you think you deserve the last word, and I'll let you have the last word and close this thread permanently. - Steven Perez from IM
Because I'm pretty? - Jonathan Hardesty
Anyone else? - Steven Perez from IM
Poop. - Steven Perez
nope. - imabonehead
I think this has lasted long enough. We already know what has to be the last word, it's already in the original quote. I will put it as the closing comment. I think we will all feel relieved we can now carry on to do greater things. For ourselves, our loved ones and the world. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
So there. - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Huh? - Steven Perez
no :o - Neya
Sorry, Nia. :D - Steven Perez
How many of these posts are there on FF? I know I've seen two others... - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
I've seen one other Nayyar's - sofarsoShawn
I've seen this thread before. It never ends well... - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I only opened it again because LogEx had something to say. :D - Steven Perez
Steven, you're my hero! - Tinfoil 2.0
I don't know about hero, but Steven will always be my bodyguard *cues music* - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
werd. - imabonehead
If someone contributes to this thread and says he's Osama bin Laden, demand to see the "I'm not dead" certificate. - John E. Bredehoft
Better not. - Steven Perez
Better. - CarlC
Nope. - Steven Perez
Nope. - Mike Nayyar
Holy cow. I've never seen this thread. I've seen Nayyar's post (which has twice as many comments), but not this one. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Me too. - Laura Norvig from iPod
Mike Nayyar's last word thread is right below this one in my stream. - DGentry
O RLY? - Steven Perez
The last word will always be here: https://friendfeed.com/mikenay... - Tinfoil 2.0
When this thread closes, another will begin. - Louis Gray
Nope. - Steven Perez
Today is Friday 13th of May. - imabonehead
Yep. And everyone in San Antonio is driving this morning as if a black cat is gonna jump out in front of their car. - Steven Perez
Or a dude with a machete? - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
No, that's only during Fiesta. - Steven Perez
Is this the longest thread ever? - M F
I dunno, the Akiva nipple-licking beach picture is pretty long, too. :-) Ah, and it looks like Mike Nayyar's last-word thread has more than 2200 comments in it. I guess we'll have to step it up over here, huh? - Ordinarybug Heather
no you're not - Valz 4 TEAMMARINA
Plus, a bunch of comments that were here got scrubbed when their owners bailed on FriendFeed. - Steven Perez
And yes, Val. I ALWAYS get the last word. It's in my contract. - Steven Perez
Ok, let's make this the longest thread ever - M F
Definitely not - M F
You don't say? - Tsali - A dude man from Android
I don't. - Steven Perez
I rarely get in the last word (except on Friendfeed, but that's not intentional) - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
I see. :) - Steven Perez
yes intentional - JOB
Probably. - Steven Perez
omg...that is a seriously long thread of comments....are you going for a record Steven?...didn't even open up so I wouldn't lose my page. - JB
Oh boy - comix aka martha
Nope. No records. I switched to digital a decade ago. :D - Steven Perez
I keep all of my FF backups on punch cards - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
No comment. - imabonehead
Me, too. - Steven Perez
I disagree - M F
I disagree with your disagreement. - Steven Perez
Word. <-- This is now the last word. (I know. Not funny.) - Blank of Two Blanks
Nope. - Steven Perez
Really? - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Yep. - Steven Perez
Ante-bellum. - Steven Perez
My Auntie makes great pies. - MoTO: Team Marina
Mmmmm, pie. - Steven Perez
No pie for you. - Joe
let me spell it out for you: O.V.E.R. - .LAG liked that
got it. - Abhishek from fftogo
Good. :) - Steven Perez
Really? - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
Yep. - Steven Perez
This is my ALL TIME FAVORITE FriendFeed post-reposte - Thank U Steven :-) - Steve Cleary
Hola, sir. - imabonehead from Android
Hola, sir. :) - Steven Perez
Just so you know, I use time travel and I always get in the first word! - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
You would have, if I didn't use my time travel abilities and cancel your abilities altogether. - Steven Perez
Surely the longest thread in FriendFeed by quite a margin? - Son of Groucho
FADE TO BLACK: - .LAG liked that
NOPE. - Steven Perez
Nope what? - Absentee
Nope Nope. - Steven Perez
sand - chaz2b
Beer. - Steven Perez
More for me, then. - Steven Perez
More what? - Absentee
Of everything. - Steven Perez
everything? - MoTO: Team Marina
Mostly. - Steven Perez
impossible - MoTO: Team Marina
No, merely improbable. - Steven Perez
I don't think so - Valz 4 TEAMMARINA
I do. - Steven Perez
this is so sudden... - MoTO: Team Marina
Not really. - Steven Perez
2525. - Steven Perez
Cleopatra? - Tsali - A dude man from Android
Who else? - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
Rollators++ - Kevin Johnson
QUIET. WATCHING MOVIE NAO. - Steven Perez
Here. Have some smelling salts. - Steven Perez
Good. Because these came from a camel. - Steven Perez
What did? - Absentee
Hey, Ernie! - Steven Perez
Ernie? - Steven Perez
Bernie! - Kevin Johnson
Milo? - Steven Perez
I have several. - Steven Perez
more than 3? - MoTO: Team Marina
At least. - Steven Perez
I don't think so - Valz 4 TEAMMARINA
I do. - Steven Perez
With gusto? - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
With pesto. - Steven Perez
With gusto? - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
With pesto. - Steven Perez
There are more of than there are of you - MiniMage
Nonsense. I am legion. At least, that's how I smell after a day working in the yard. - Steven Perez
You have leeches? - John E. Bredehoft
Sneetches. - Steven Perez
Bless you. - imabonehead
But I didn't sneeze. - Kevin Johnson
I did. - Steven Perez
Nuh uhhh - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
Uh huh. - Steven Perez
Nope. - Steven Perez
Not negatory. - imabonehead
Not positronic. - Steven Perez
guten morgen. - imabonehead
TGIF, sir! - imabonehead
I don't think that's a word - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Yes, it is. - Steven Perez
But... - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
Yes? - Steven Perez
I am not William. - Steven Perez
You are what you are. - imabonehead
Yep. - Steven Perez
Affirmative. - imabonehead
Yesh. - Steven Perez
. - Joe
o_O - Steven Perez
yes he does - Peter Dawson
Way. - Steven Perez
Hey, I atleast had the last word . for over 24 hours. - Joe
Past tense. :) - Steven Perez
You know I'd give the last word to you, A1. :) - Steven Perez
Jonathan Eisen
A good day for the Public Library of Science and science in general: #PLoS opens up search API - http://phylogenomics.blogspot.com/2011...
Looking forward to talking with other developers in the Google group https://groups.google.com/group... - Mike Chelen
Mike Chelen
@PLoS Is there an API for #PLoS or @PLoSONE? There was talk of RDF support, has this been documented? /cc @BoraZ @p_binfield
Here is the old blog post discussing RDF: http://www.plos.org/cms... - Mike Chelen
Maybe using a 3rd party site, such as PubMed, HubMed, Mendeley or Citeulike is the best alternative? - Mike Chelen
No API yet (its still on our list...) however the articles are all tagged with RDFa for the Dublin Core elements. See: http://www.dragishak.com/?p=78 - Peter Binfield
The RDFa looks good! Had the best luck using the GetN3 addon. If search results had similar markup, then RDFa could supply all the needed API features. - Mike Chelen
Mike - our API is coming soon... - Peter Binfield
Peter: How exciting to hear! Look forward to learning the details as they are announced. Any idea when release date or documentation will be available? - Mike Chelen
Now live :) - Peter Binfield from Android
Iddo Friedberg
Also check out CloudBurst for running sequence alignment on AWS http://aws.amazon.com/article... - Mike Chelen
Derrick
"Treme" untangles the lessons of trauma - Treme - Salon.com - http://www.salon.com/enterta...
"Treme" untangles the lessons of trauma - Treme - Salon.com
""Everybody is out of their minds," said Lt. Terry Colson (David Morse) in last night's second-season premiere of "Treme." That's not a bad way to sum up David Simon's gumbo-pot drama -- and it's less an apology than a simple observation. In the run up to the HBO series' 2010 premiere, much of the coverage focused on how "Treme" was similar to or different from Simon's previous show, "The Wire." But the biggest difference didn't really snap into focus until the final stretch of season one: "Treme" might be the first major American TV series that's mainly about how trauma messes with people's heads, and how hard it is to recover from it." - Derrick from Bookmarklet
Yay for Jon Seda, another great actor from Homicide, with Melissa Leo. - Mike Chelen
Simon has his favorite actors doesn't he? I keep hoping Andre Braugher shows up. - A Gunny named Slickback
DGentry
Telepresence is so passé. I want telepathence. Just plug us all in and we'll meet in an infinite white room.
What do you have against interior decoration?? - Mike Chelen
Once we have telepathence, we'll be able to redecorate instantly. Unconstrained by physics, design will reach new heights! - DGentry
Victor Ganata
When are we going to, as a country, stop pretending that there’s a level of empirical proof that will satisfy the conspiracy-seekers amongst us? - http://x0.tumblr.com/post...
It's not evidence that is lacking, but education. And this is rather more difficult to provide :) - Mike Chelen
Andy Bakun
I wish Google Docs supported actual styles. Manually styling everything is like using raw HTML without semantic markup.
Create a Template and use it to make the new documents? - Mike Chelen
GDocs strips out all of my styles from my templates. - Anika
Jay Rosen
"Live is not 'yet another thing' to understand... it is the great journalistic challenge of our time." Yes, @emilybell. http://emilybellwether.wordpress.com/2011...
The strive for lower and lower ping times :) - Mike Chelen
Jay Rosen
Conclusions from watching TV last night: there are no great improvising anchors anymore. Dunno why. Richard Engel: superb. John King: WTF?
Are Juan Gonzalez and Amy Goodman anchors? They adapt their questions during live interviews. - Mike Chelen
Mr. Gunn
RT @egonwillighagen #BioMedCentral guidelines that web pages must not have authors in bibliographies a total disrespect to bloggers #solo10
Who ever heard of a bibliography format that doesn't include author names? If there are too many to fit, the editor or primary author should still be noted. - Mike Chelen
Link to the guidelines in question? - Bill Hooker
"Link / URL 13. The Mouse Tumor Biology Database [http://tumor.informatics.jax.org/mtbwi...] " -> http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcbioi... (this is specific for BMC Bioinformatics, but is, AFAIK, a publisher wide guideline... at applies to at least two other journals I checked...) - Egon Willighagen
What Egon mean was that it was a disrespect to online science in general, not just bloggers. The tweet above was my verison edited for space. Egon, have you considered, maybe, perhaps, shortening your twitter handle by about 10 characters? ;-) - Mr. Gunn
Yeah, I have thought of that :) my 'normal' egonw was already taken :( - Egon Willighagen
But just to make clear... a blog post would be a Link/URL ... so no blogger author name... - Egon Willighagen
Yes, that's a problem for metadata/semantic web to solve, right? - Mr. Gunn
These guidelines look outdated as opposed to intentionally noninclusive. Their example of a link citation (The Mouse Tumor Biology Database [http://tumor.informatics.jax.org/mtbwi...]) points to an entire website. In the old days a team might be responsible for a website without clear authorship of a single part. Today however there are often clearly marked authors for individual... more... - Mike Chelen
I'm fairly sure that if you were to cite as follows -- Willighagen, E. Handbook of Chemoinformatics Algorithms [http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2010...] -- it would be perfectly acceptable. But the larger point is well taken, that there should be clearer guidelines on citing web resources, including blogs (imo, the WebCite service and format (http://www.webcitation.org/) should always be used). I'll pass this thread on to folks at BMC. - Bill Hooker
Yeah, need to do that too... the least it does is cause a lot of confusion with reviewers and editors... I have been asked to remove author names for such uses... - Egon Willighagen
Response from Iain Hrynaszkiewicz -- (1) the guidelines aren't meant to indicate that you cannot include names in citing web resources, just that you don't have to cite a name if there isn't a relevant one to go with the resouce in question; and (2) the instructions will be reviewed to avoid further confusion and meet changing needs of authors online - Bill Hooker
Hi all. BioMed Central author guidelines now explicitly encourage blog authors to be named e.g. http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcresn... "Link / URL with author(s) 14. Neylon, C: Open Research Computation: an ordinary journal with extraordinary aims. [http://blogs.openaccesscentral.com/blogs...]" - Iain Hz
Nice update, thanks for letting us all know! Now authors and blog publishers should work on providing an immutable reference for web pages, such as DOI or URI. - Mike Chelen
agree, Mike (including FF discussions...) - Claudia Koltzenburg
I checked out Webcite after Bill's recommendation, since an author contacted me about referring to one of my blog posts in a paper they're writing. Unfortunately, the post contains an embedded Google spreadsheet, which can't be archived. The link to the spreadsheet would still be there I suppose but, all in all, it's pretty ugly. But more useful than just putting the link in the bibliography? Any other options? The Webcite link: http://www.webcitation.org/5yJhkFu... - Jason Snyder
It should be possible to export the Google Spreadsheet to file, and upload it as long as attachments are allowed. - Mike Chelen
Mike Chelen
Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) CD Install - Community Ubuntu Documentation #Eucalyptus - https://help.ubuntu.com/communi...
Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) CD Install - Community Ubuntu Documentation #Eucalyptus
Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) CD Install - Community Ubuntu Documentation #Eucalyptus
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"This tutorial covers Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud installation from the Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition CD, and assumes a basic network topology, with a single system serving as the "all-in-one controller", and one or more nodes attached." - Mike Chelen from Bookmarklet
It uses Eucalyptus which supports the Amazon EC2 API. Haven't tried these install steps yet though. - Mike Chelen
Stephen Mack
Full TIlt Poker domain name seized - http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/
Full TIlt Poker domain name seized
Justice Department press release: http://www.justice.gov/usao... -- "The FBI announced the unsealing of an Indictment today charging eleven defendants, including the founders of the three largest Internet poker companies doing business in the United States - PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker (the "Poker Companies")- with bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses. " - Stephen Mack
I wonder how much the domain name will fetch at government auction... - Brian Johns
Raise! - Stephen Mack
If I were President, I'd go about this the opposite way: I'd legalize these sites and tax the heck out of 'em. - Stephen Mack
I think it would be a bit hard to tax, considering operations are outside the US. - NOT THE CRICKET
Mebbe, but better that than this. I don't play poker online personally, but I don't believe it should be illegal. - Stephen Mack
Sure, legalize gambling, but I'm not so sanguine about legalizing bank fraud and money laundering. - Victor Ganata
Innocent until proven guilty on the bank fraud and money laundering, though. - Stephen Mack
True, but my point is that they may be guilty of more than just breaking anti-gambling laws. And I don't think anyone can dispute that casinos in general--whether online or brick-and-mortar--can quite easily facilitate either of those offenses. - Victor Ganata
Victor, but how often is it the casino intentionally laundering, to continue doing business. - NOT THE CRICKET
The only ones we ever know about are the ones the IRS and the FBI have managed to indict and get a conviction, Jimminy :D - Victor Ganata
True. I would assume that they wouldn't really need to though. Of course, that was the main plot to Rush Hour 2. :D - NOT THE CRICKET
interesting. - Nathalie
Half the reason to legalize the gambling itself is to hopefully prevent the more serious crimes. - Mike Chelen
True, the gambling industry in the state of Nevada is regulated up the wazoo to prevent laundering and bank fraud. But I suspect the reason why people went to the Internet in the first place was because they didn't want to be regulated. - Victor Ganata
Casinos are still very profitable, even when operating legally and paying taxes. If the decision is between constant threat of shutdown or paying some fees, most businesses would choose to keep operating if they can. - Mike Chelen
Internet gambling -- now legal in the District, in addition to Nevada. - Julian
It isn't just the taxes, there are all sorts of regulations and procedures that casinos and their employees have to abide by and perform, but, you're right, if anything, adhering strictly to these regulations and procedures will limit the liability of a casino should someone try to use them to launder money. - Victor Ganata
Poker involves chance, but the outcome is not random. Also the pot goes to other players instead of the casino, except for the rake. - Mike Chelen
Scoble, Alex Scoble
Can you think of any businesses that operate in the US that do so without subsidies from local, state and federal government programs? I cannot.
Not one. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have a doula business. I don't receive any subsidy from the government. I don't know any doulas that do, either. - Rochelle
You're talking about big businesses, right? Because the small business my parents have had have never received such things. - Katy S
He specifically wrote 'any businesses'. That would mean a business of any size. - Akiva
Do you have to drive to your clients, Rochelle? Then you operate with subsidies from government. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Only if you take the deduction Alex. Sometimes it's just not worth the effort. - Tinfoil 2.0
Akiva - true. - Katy S
And that means those who want to try eliminating subsidies are therefore wrong? - Kevin L
Here comes the moving of the goal posts. - Akiva
Alex, yes. But you assume I claim mileage on my tax returns. And you didn't mention anything about taxes in the initial post. - Rochelle
I don't think that anyone in my family received subsidies when they drove the hearse to the cemeteries. - Katy S
Alex is saying that since roads are paid for by the government, they're a universal subsidy (which I agree with in a sense) - Kevin L
Around here even the little guys are getting sales tax forgiven, real estate taxes frozen or reduced, cheap or free land, the list is almost endless Nothing ever about paying the employees those taxpayers a decent wage, of course, because THAT would be interfering with the sacred free market - WarLord
Warlord - my parents get none of those things. There's a lot of animosity between small local businesses and larger businesses around here for that reason. - Katy S
Kevin - but is it really a subsidy if you're paying for it through fuel taxes? - Katy S
Yeah Katy, its the whole give Walmart a big payday so they'll locare a store 'here' that destroys all your long time businesses and suck the life out of your downtown - but local city councils and county boards seem willing to play along over and over again #theyneverlearn - WarLord
LOL this thread. Go 'head on, Alex. - Derrick
WTF are you talking about moving of the goal posts? I clearly defined what the OP was about. The point is, that when you think about it, it's very difficult, if not impossible, to think of a business that doesn't exist through the workings of government in some way. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Even if you don't take the deduction, you aren't paying what it costs to actually use those roads that you drive every day, and nor is a business paying for the roads that their employees use every day. Do any business on the internet? That largely exists because of government programs and subsidies. I could go on. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yet we have many businesses that clearly could not exist as they are without government help like GE that pay no taxes or very little in the way of taxes. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, it's almost like the government forces its way into every aspect of our lives whether we want it to or not. - Alex Scrivener
I sense that "almost like" is similar to "if only" in indicating sarcasm. - Tinfoil 2.0
In that it is how I began a sentence? Yes. - Alex Scrivener
It's interesting because so many people and businesses that depend on all this infrastructure refuse to pay for it. Google is another great example. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Considering how low the tax rates are for payroll and capital gains, your argument isn't exactly holding water. If it costs 10 cents out of every dollar to pay for a bit of infrastructure and a company and its employees are only paying 8 cents, you can imagine what that does to society over time and from what I'm seeing this is pretty much the situation we are in. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Make it usage based. - Alex Scrivener
I'm not convinced you can run a business without some form of rule of law. What are you supposed to do if property rights and contracts can't be enforced? - Victor Ganata
Hire enforcers. - Alex Scrivener
Then aren't you starting up your own government? - Victor Ganata
Exactly...and guess what that does to your bottom line. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I guarantee that it's a lot more expensive for you to provide security for your business than it is for the government to do it. Economies of scale. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's why I am not an anarchist. - Alex Scrivener
Thank the FSM for that. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Infrastructure isn't a subsidy, it's a service provided by the government through taxation that could be provided by the private sector, through usage or service costs. A subsidy is a government/budgeted pecuniary handout to keep an industry fungible that would go bankrupt/stop being active unless it received such funds. Infrastructure Ie electricity, roads (tolls) could be provided by the private sector but are rather monopolized by the gov't. - sofarsoShawn
But yeah, every thing is a double edged sword. Both centralized and decentralized control and planning have their strengths and weaknesses, but I think you need both for a society to thrive...finding the balance? That's the tricky part. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If government subsidizes a part of infrastructure and you use that infrastructure, you are being subsidized. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
You do know the government is spending citizen's money, right? - Johnny
Everyone who uses gas is getting a subsidy from the US government because they keep gas prices artificially low compared to the rest of the world. Everyone who uses electricity in this country is being subsidized because without government just about no plants would be built. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes, but which citizens and is the use of a part of infrastructure equated out to what an entity (person or business) uses? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Electricity is hardly monopolized by the government in the U.S., although they do grant monopolies to private companies, because otherwise it wouldn't be economically viable to provide the service. - Victor Ganata
There's a lot of unfairness in how taxpayers pay for things and how corporations use those things and then don't pay taxes. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
A corporation cannot pay taxes. It can only serve as a convenient collection point for taxes on employees, customers, and owners. - Alex Scrivener
Say what? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm sure that we would agree that corporations should not be legal entities unto themselves, but unfortunately, in the US, as current law is written and interpreted by the courts, corporations are entities with rights similar to individuals. As such they pay taxes. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I would argue that changed the moment they declared corporations had the same rights as people. - Victor Ganata
Don't pay taxes? Overtly simplistic view. Corporations pay a large bulk of 'taxes' and 'subsidies' by the volume of goods sent through the US Postal System, US Customs, sales taxes etc. GM may not pay a lot of 'upfront' tax but they do employee a lot of people who pay tax, they sell a lot of cars which attract sales tax etc. Simple equation, take the top corporations out of the picture... more... - Johnny
I said GE in my example. They've paid Zero taxes for like the last 3 years while showing profits. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And I said GM. - Johnny
we actually have the worst of both worlds A corporate veil that protects the humans from all regulations and laws with the business entity itself now a person with all those rights - WarLord
Do corps pay taxes *because* they are legal entities with some of the rights of human persons? If corps weren't treated as 'persons' and couldn't speak to the government with money, would you be OK with corps paying no taxes? - Tinfoil 2.0
Electricity is directly monopolized state by state, some granting monopolies, others allowing competition. The question depends on the state & gov't in power. But the decision, lies directly with them. By the right mentioned of them able to grant monopolies or competition is exactly the question at issue. Whether it costs the consumer more is not. - sofarsoShawn
I don't know, LogEx, probably not, because I can't see companies raising pay so that individuals could pay for all the stuff that corporations now pay for. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
With a corporate tax, either the employees pay, because the firm can't afford as many of them; the customers pay, because the firm has to raise their prices to cover the taxes; or the shareholders pay because profits are lower and the company is worth less. If you want to tax those groups, fine. Do it. But hiding the taxes in a "corporate tax" is a trick of politics. - Alex Scrivener
I'm only commenting in this thread to recognize the gentleman who used the word fungible. PROPS. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I have one... "Las Vegas". I dare say the amount of taxes those companies pay, and all the subsequent taxes that the smaller corporations who service them pay AND all the employees' taxes AND the gambling winnings those who win have to declare on their tax return AND all the tourists that they attract would be fair higher and pay for far more of the infrastructure than the residents of Las Vegas. *taps the fuck out* - Johnny
That assumes, Alex, that corporations act rationally. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
right now MultiNational Corporations pay nothing, wages are pittance and prices are ruinous - not sure that your argument has a point - WarLord
Are mushrooms fungible? - Tinfoil 2.0
Las Vegas wouldn't exist without the transportation networks built and paid for by taxpayers as well as water delivery systems that, if our water usage system was rational, would be much more expensive than they are today. Huge subsidies there. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes, but who pays the bulk of that in taxes, the citizens or the corporations? - Johnny
I'd wager that the citizens do. That infrastructure is very expensive, even when you take in to account all the money that casinos make. Although they are making a lot less at the moment. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Not the citizens of Nevada. Tourists pay the bulk of the tax burden. http://www.nevadanewsbureau.com/2011... - Victor Ganata
And I say you'd be wrong. Volume, Alex, volume. Corporations pay 'less' tax but compared to the average worker, they pay a larger share. - Johnny
Cristo, but there is still Federal taxes. - Johnny
And in the GE case, zero % of 1 billion dollars is still zero. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
So Alex, it's about being self-sufficient. If I pay large sum (but lower percentage) of taxes AND my business draws in even more taxes so in fact the 'subsidies' my business receives is less than the taxes I pay, I don't receive subsidies. I am, in fact, subsidizing the citizens. - Johnny
Johnny, how is 0% of anything a large sum? - Victor Ganata
Do GE buy fleet cars? Import raw materials? Purchase local food stuffs, buy stationary? Do they pay taxes in the day-to-day running of their business? - Johnny
Considering the businesses that GE is in (most are selling goods and services to the government) they are a prime example of what I'm talking about. Doesn't matter how much they pay in taxes, really, because it's all self serving. Money goes out and comes right back in. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
So, if I'm reading you right Alex, is no company, anywhere, operates without a subsidy, anywhere in the world. Cuase the second a citizen puts a dollar in the kitty, even if that kitty is $1,000,001, they have ink on them? - Johnny
My point is that corporations can't exist without the infrastructure that we build via the government and as such they owe it to taxpayers to pay their fair share of taxes and that many corporations are clearly not paying their fair share of taxes, either directly or indirectly. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
You want game, set, and match? The top 10 largest banks as a perfect example. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Why use the term "subsidy" to refer to public infrastructure? - Mike Chelen
If you are a corp or a citixen and you pay "zero" taxes, the public infrastructure is a gift, a subsidy to your business and pleasure - WarLord
Bluesun 2600
Sony Shuts Down PlayStation Network Indefinitely - Digits - WSJ - http://blogs.wsj.com/digits...
Sony Shuts Down PlayStation Network Indefinitely - Digits - WSJ
"Internet gamers were frustrated last week when Sony shut down its PlayStation Network. Now, they might have reason to be worried. On Monday, the Japanese electronics giant said it is keeping its PlayStation Network videogame service offline indefinitely following a hacking attack it now says may have compromised user’s information. To ensure the network’s integrity, Sony said it is currently rebuilding the service, which connects more than 75 million PlayStation customers over the Internet, letting them play videogames and chat together. “This is a time intensive process and we’re working to get them back online quickly,” Sony spokesman Patrick Seybold said in a blog post." - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
this will not go over well. - Big Joe Silence
Especially for those of us who use the PS3 for Netflix Instant, which requires access to PSN. - Jonathan Hardesty
pwned by hackers - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
It's only a matter of time before this happens to Xbox, surely. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Who are you calling Shirly!?! - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Apparently it DOESN'T affect Netflix. Someone was saying eventually after the failed PSN logins it will just go to Netflix anyway. Might have to try that when I'm done with work. - Jonathan Hardesty
@Jonathan: I've had mixed results with that. On Saturday Netflix worked just fine, on Sunday I couldn't sign in - LANjackal
Incredibly bad security in PSN authentication and payment processing D: - Mike Chelen
LANjackal
"If you're arrested while carrying a mobile phone on your person, police are free to rifle through your text messages, images, and any other files stored locally on your phone. Any incriminating evidence found on your phone can be used against you in court. On the other hand, if you are arrested with a mobile phone in your possession but not immediately associated with your person, police may not search your phone without a warrant once you've been taken into custody and your phone is under police control." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
If the phone is turned off they can't do this, though, can they? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Best to password-protect, turn off, and lock the phone in the glove box if stopped. Also, remember to say "I do not consent to a search" at appropriate times. - Tinfoil 2.0
Any files on the device that are unencrypted are capable of being read. Usually few programs such as password managers actually encrypt their files, though some phone OS such as Blackberry do support system-wide file encryption. - Mike Chelen
LANjackal
"Wal-Mart Stores Inc has begun testing an online grocery delivery service in San Jose, California, a company spokesman said on Saturday. The world's biggest retailer had been rumored to be considering dipping its toe into online grocery delivery for the past few years. The "Walmart To Go" test allows customers to visit Walmart.com to order groceries and consumables found in a Walmart store and have them delivered to their homes, the spokesman said." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
Interesting. Semi-electronic commerce? - MohanArun
Internet bubble flashback - Laura Norvig from iPod
The Walmart stores up here no longer have the star between 'Wal' and 'Mart'. - Akiva
There is grocery delivery from Safeway and Giant (Peapod) in my area. It can be convenient and worthwhile depending on the customer. For example working parents with little free time, urban or rural people without cars, and businesses. - Mike Chelen
It wouldnt look/feel the same without 'the star'. Certainly I will miss it. - MohanArun
Jesse Stay
Aliens Revealed in InfoChimps’ UFO Sightings Dataset - http://blog.programmableweb.com/2011...
This is pretty cool, but even with 60,000 incidents, that still doesn't prove that those UFO sightings were actual aliens visiting the earth. I believe in UFOs. I'm still not convinced any of those UFOs have been actual aliens. - Jesse Stay
Collecting information should serve to provide a more thorough explanation / debunking in many cases :) - Mike Chelen
Cameron Neylon
Just getting on + doing it...great to see RT @fishypea: @CameronNeylon You can't get more open source biology than this: http://www.myexperiment.org/packs...
Seems MyExpt has made considerable progress while I wasn't watching. - Bill Hooker
Looks like their website allows posting & sharing of many file content types that are used frequently. - Mike Chelen
Cameron Neylon
Open Source, Open Research and Open Review - http://cameronneylon.net/blog...
One of the things we want the Open Research Computation journal to do is bring more of the transparency and open critique that characterises the best Open Source Software development processes into the scholarly peer review process. But you can talk about changing the way peer review works and you can actively do something about. Michael Barton and Hazel Barton have taken matters into their own hands and thrown the doors completely open. They have submitted a paper to ORC and in parallel asked the community on the BioStar site how the paper and software could be improved. - Cameron Neylon
"By not restricting commentary to a small number of people we stand a better chance of getting all the appropriate points of view represented." - best practise IMHO for the journal's topic. As you may of course know, the method of parallel open and closed peer reviewing is being practised by Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, ACP (has been since about 2003)... more... - Claudia Koltzenburg
Yes, I should have mentioned ACP as an example of a similar thing... - Cameron Neylon
We opened up our writing process and invited comments for our PZQ paper (http://openwetware.org/wiki...) but recently went to a closed Word version just to get it actually ready for submission... Don't think many journals will accept a web page draft as a submission? (Discuss, 25 marks) - Matthew Todd
well, Matthew, why not finalise the draft in the open? and actually I think journals should be made to accept *especially* submissions that were drafted (and maybe also finalised) in the open :-) honestly, I see no reason why e.g. our journal (CTT) should not accept any open science articles... I am waiting for our author teams to take exactly this step (or any other pro-open-science ones) for that matter - Claudia Koltzenburg
It's mainly because the switch to Word is to get things ready for submission, and we weren't expecting any big changes in the process (which didn't turn out to be quite right, actually), and the things we were attending to were mainly cosmetic. But it was assembled on OWW for quite a while first. - Matthew Todd
Word document in a public dropbox folder is a stopgap for this stage of the process. Also avoids the horrendous email attachment debacle that inevitably ensues... - Cameron Neylon
maybe actually we need a kind of http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/ (but interactive & open) to make visible how the traditional cramps/cranks (?) are crumbling in journal policies and how/where open science habits among authors are more and more accepted on the publisher side (plus: the better the authors who go open and refuse submitting anything in formats like eh .doc... just imagine how we could speed up the process to go open everything on the scientific web :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg
Was the need for Word based on better formatting capabilities? Maybe Google Docs would provide more features while keeping the document online. - Mike Chelen
Michael Barton
GitWrite - blogging for nerds - http://gitwrite.com/
looks like a potentially great platform for a lab notebook... - Carl Boettiger
Sounds an awful lot like http://pages.github.com/ GitHub Pages is an awesome platform for hosting documentation. For example, we use it to host http://gunicorn.org from this GitHub branch: http://github.com/benoitc... - Paul J. Davis
There's a great desktop/cloud notebook app to be written using git as a back end. Anybody got into the guts of this and seen what is different if anything under the hood? - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
I know that the Mercurial vs. Git debate seems to have been won by git in the Open Science community, but if you want a saner life you should look at http://hatta-wiki.org/ (Also see http://www.mzlinux.org/node... for a list of Mercurial/Git backed wiki engines.) True nerds should consider an Emacs Org mode backed blog or wiki http://orgmode.org/worg... which can also be combined with revision control. - Matt Leifer
Just thought about an Emacs org-mode + git solution, too. Especially as it can include executable code snippets via Babel: http://orgmode.org/worg... (at the bottom of this page you can find a description how this can be used for reproducible research). - Konrad Förstner
The server software used for display must be available for the content to be truly portable. Would be happy to see even if only basic features were available so far. - Mike Chelen
Hatta looks good, wonder how difficult it is to get set up? - Mike Chelen
Ended up using Github's Git-backed wikis https://github.com/blog.... Now if only there were a way to allow comments similar to blog posts... - Mike Chelen
Heather Piwowar
Check out cool #DataONE 2011 summer internships... work with me! or other people! http://www.dataone.org/content...
Applications for #DataONE summer internships due April 8. Work from home on interesting stuff! http://bit.ly/ekSmFv - Heather Piwowar
The titles of this year’s projects: DATA MANAGEMENT: Best practices of data management for public participation in science and research DATA MANAGEMENT: Online learning modules related to best practices throughout the data lifecycle EDUCATION: Accessing and analyzing environmental data in the classroom SOCIOLOGY OF SCIENCE: Understanding how scientists analyze data DATA SCIENCE: How... more... - Heather Piwowar
open to all undergraduate students, graduate students, and postgraduates who have received their masters or doctorate within the past five years - Heather Piwowar
This looks very cool. I fit into that demographic :) Time to investigate further me thinks. - science3point0
w00t! Come on over, open science community! That would be awesome. - Heather Piwowar
Help spread the word about @DataONEorg summer internships the old-fashioned way. Flyer: http://bit.ly/h7XNnu - Heather Piwowar
That would make me slightly not eligible :-( - Cameron Neylon
Like Cameron, I am just a little past my use-by date according to these criteria. - Bill Hooker
There is interest in a similar opportunity for non-recent students/graduates? Tell me more. What draws you? Well-defined projects? Duration? Remote-friendly? Stipend? Stipend is obviously the most difficult part... is it a key part of the appeal? - Heather Piwowar
I actually think this could make a really fun sabbatical of some sort. Focussed project, defined time, great people. But the money is the hard bit basically - but if it were fundable would definitely be interested. - Cameron Neylon
Cameron's idea of a sabbatical is great. (I was just pie-in-the-skying, since I'm out of academia and business typically doesn't do sabbaticals.) As mentioned, pay at that level is the biggest hurdle. - Bill Hooker
Sounds cool to me too, but like others I'm past that eligibility date. - Brian Westra
I think that the "5 years post-degree" requirement is an artefact of a different time in science. In terms of opportunity to win grants and set up a lab, you can still be a "young investigator" well into your 40s now (e.g. average age of first NIH RO1 = 40-something). The idea, I think, is to set a cutoff past which one might reasonably be expected to have made a go of it, and to... more... - Bill Hooker
This is why I love Friendfeed. Without it, someone gets the email and says to themselves, "Heh, I wish that applied to me." With it, we learn there is unmet interest and the opportunity to do something really cool. - Heather Piwowar
Heather +, just bring your mail authors here, then :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg
I'm looking into what we can do within DataONE, now or for the future. Worth keeping this synced-sabbatical model in mind for other Open proposals, too.... think what we could pull off in a month or two of combined effort! - Heather Piwowar
make virtual participation possible, too - Claudia Koltzenburg
Yup, right on, Claudia. - Heather Piwowar
ok, great, for virtual participation (at least): help create fair access options for colleagues with visual and/or hearing impairments, please - Claudia Koltzenburg
for future reference, related blog post: http://researchremix.wordpress.com/2011... - Heather Piwowar
These are all important factors, "Well-defined projects? Duration? Remote-friendly? Stipend?". Also the chances of publication, and the reputation of the researchers and organization. How about an option for applicants to choose whether they need a stipend or not? Then try and include as many stipend and non-stipend participants as possible. While a stipend would be great, still it might be fun to be involved for all the other reasons listed. - Mike Chelen
Daniel Mietchen
#GuttenPlag Wiki: Visualization of plagiarized sources (cataloging still in progress) - http://de.guttenplag.wikia.com/wiki...
#GuttenPlag Wiki: Visualization of plagiarized sources (cataloging still in progress)
Would love to see a tool that similarly maps (ideally with links) provenance for any scholarly document. Any such examples already out there, using open data? Edit: File repurposed as logo for http://friendfeed.com/guttenp... . See also http://ff.im/AcS2b . - Daniel Mietchen from Bookmarklet
See http://plagiarism.org I think it only links to two commercial software packages. I remember there was a free web service in the medical area, but can't find it back. - joergkurtwegner
Thanks, but my comment above was actually not meant to refer to plagiarism alone - I think such a mapping could well be helpful if the sources are cited as well (and that may actually be easier to implement). - Daniel Mietchen
... calling Mike Chelen to this thraed :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg
The visualization style is great, now where does the source data come from? There might be open source language processing libraries that can perform the text matching. Is there an appropriate corpus to compare with the work? - Mike Chelen
Most of the code is on the bottom of the page. The source data is compiled by the wiki community there. Dunno what kind of comparative corpus you are after. Update: docu of source code at http://pastebin.com/Jph149xd . - Daniel Mietchen
It looks like the code works with Wikia.com? It runs against de.gutenplag.wikia.com - Mike Chelen
Daniel Mietchen
Is there any journal that permits to submit articles in HTML or other web-native formats?
what about equations? - marcin
I'm fine with any web format accepted for submission by a scientific journal (possibly even blogs using http://en.support.wordpress.com/latex... or similar). There is a list of wiki-based journals at http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki... , so I am mainly after non-wiki journals in this thread (and not after PLoS Currents either, which has many similarities with wikis). - Daniel Mietchen
Let's use EPUB, please! Web native (HTML+CSS zipped with metadata) -- but also easy to grab for offline use. Reflowable. Supported by several major mobile devices and software packages. - Jodi Schneider
There are some: http://journal.code4lib.org/ publishes in WordPress and has received HTML submissions. - Jodi Schneider
Background on EPUB: http://www.idpf.org/ . - Daniel Mietchen
Update: http://ff.im/w2wzg - "XML submission, editorial, publication and dissemination workflow". - Daniel Mietchen
What about journals that fully rely on Open Journal System (http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ojs) - Paulo
Seems possible, but I don't know of any OJS-based journals that would allow submissions to be in HTML or XML or other online format. - Daniel Mietchen
Information Research requires XHTML http://informationr.net/ir... - Heather Piwowar
Re "Let's use EPUB": How do you *get* to ePub from a common writing tool...without adding new software costs to your current situation? (A real question: So far, my attempts--using CALIBRE--have resulted in really crappy ePub. And neither OpenOffice nor Word has ever heard of ePub as an output format.) - Walt Crawford
Try eCub to convert from XHTML? http://www.juliansmart.com/ecub - Mike Chelen
Mike: Thanks...although, AFAIK, getting to fully-formatted XHTML from Word or OO is also non-trivial. I must be missing something (probably true)... - Walt Crawford
Walt: What happens when converting to ePub from OO HTML file? It seems to be XHTML compliant and loads ok in eCub. Alternatively plain text could be used as the source format. - Mike Chelen
Mike: Actually, the problem with OO is that it does a truly crappy job of importing style-based Word documents, basically throwing away most formatting. The "alternative" answer is saying "don't do formatting." - Walt Crawford
I apologize for the threadjack. Maybe many/most articles shouldn't be formatted anyway. I'm dealing with non-scientific book-length items, and losing all the formatting in order to do ePub doesn't work. But that's irrelevant to Daniel's original question. Sorry. - Walt Crawford
Sorry, I missed this discussion back in August. Not a journal, but ArXiv allows manuscript submissions in HTML: http://arxiv.org/help... - Martin Fenner
thread picked up here re OJS-based journals: http://friendfeed.com/claudia... - Claudia Koltzenburg
SIGIL is another good tool for creating ePub documents. Apples answer to Word, Pages, can save in ePub format. - Jan Jensen
Since epub keeps coming up in such discussions, does anyone have a pointer to a good analysis of its strengths, weaknesses, alternatives? As far as I can tell, it seems to work fine for novels and such, but if you want to use it to publish data-intensive papers with lots of tables, figures and equations, it is much less useful. - Daniel Mietchen
ePub is basically XHTML package with the CSS and image files into a .zip archive. So it looks as good (or bad) as the XHTML. An example ePub from the PLoS Comp Biol paper for the Beyond the PDF workshop is here: http://blogs.xartrials.org/mfenner... Needs a lot more work, particulalrly with references and tables, but looks very readable to me. - Martin Fenner
こちらは防波堤沿いの道路を走っていた車を運転していた人が撮影した動画です。これで助かったのはまさに奇跡です!!http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ami Iida
芭蕉 については http://ff.im/zpnIA です。でも面白いのビデオ。 - Daniel Mietchen
Walt: Are the Word files in an XML based format such as DOCX? Maybe there is a better tool than Open Office to do the conversion to HTML, or directly to EPUB, since they should all support CSS ok. - Mike Chelen
btw, http://ff.im/Af5vh Libre Office now - Claudia Koltzenburg
Followup: The newest version of LibreOffice does a better job of importing Word documents. I might try an ePub output one of these days. But, Mike, "maybe there is a better tool" begs the question: For ePub to succeed more broadly, us poverty-stricken writers can't be told to go buy more tools. - Walt Crawford
Walt: Hopefully a conversion between XML based formats should be more practical. Then a variety of tools can include such a feature, hopefully including free and open source utilities. Great to hear about LibreOffice, will have to checkout ePub support again. - Mike Chelen
Word2010 *is* XML-based (as was Word2007), that is, .docx. - Walt Crawford
LANjackal
"Today we got the best look yet at Google's anti-iPad, the Android 3.0 Honeycomb tablet OS. Though much has been shared previously, it's finally clear what Google is doing to differentiate its tablets from the iPad — and what Google thinks works so well on Apple's platform that they're borrowing it for themselves." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
space age stuff - Vezquex
Apple is still probably ahead in UI and hardware, but these tablets may be very popular with new users who might not afford Apple's premium sticker price. - Mike Chelen
^ Not true. Prices for iPad are far from premium at the moment ($499 for basic iPad), Android-based tablets can't beat that yet, unless they start a price war with Apple (and they can't do that either, because it might lead to negative margin and other neat consequences). - Cognitive Bayes
Actually, not all of them overpriced — Moto is coming to realization of price drops that are necessary to compete with Apple (and thus considers the price tag for Xoom around 5 hundred bucks in big retail outlets). As for overpriced, there was a torrent of stories about costs and supply chain of both Apple and others (mostly Samsung/Motorola), here's the one from NYT:... more... - Cognitive Bayes
$500 is still a reasonable amount more than the ~$250 netbooks which support more software and include full keyboards. - Mike Chelen
There's no netbook comparable to Xoom's Tegra chipset or 1280 x 800 screen resolution and 10 hrs battery. You get either "long battery+low power" or "fair power+average battery", and when you find one that's both, then it isn't $250 notebook already. I don't say there's no way to cut the price (Apple has always taken a premium niche, be it Mac, iPod or iPhone, so iPad for $499 means... more... - Cognitive Bayes
Liza + = ?
When people ask if Friendfeed is dead, I am selfishly tempted to say yes. Is that bad?
No. - #cryptic
Protect the community from the outsiders! - Absentee
It depends on why. ;) - Jenny
Um, you wouldn't be far from the truth ie those who supposed to be developing the UI/in charge etc...*shrugs* ~ whatevs...we survive, we thrive, we aren't embittered, we carry on! (I should add IMO :) - sofarsoShawn
I'd be upset if I didn't know also know where the secret stash of Friendfeed is hidden ;) - chrisofspades
I think, that's what you were getting at with your Q, that's what I believe most people imply (the admin) when it comes to down to the fundamentals of FF, though it can all be answered with one simple url -> http://www.isfriendfeeddeadyet.com/ - sofarsoShawn
Development has indeed halted on the Friendfeed server software. Other platforms are catching up, but none are quite as good yet. The site itself seems to be running fine, although some features such as search are partially partially operational at best. - Mike Chelen
I feel it is mostly dead. Making sure to get onto FF now feels like a chore to me. I need to do a better job of seeing who's on Twitter, etc. so that I don't lose the people. - Blank of Two Blanks
Scott: My perspective is totally the reverse, it is fun and comfortable to be on FF. It is more difficult to justify spending all my time here though, when development has stalled. - Mike Chelen
FriendFeed is NOT dead... Well, only when twitter is not down anyways. - Outsanity
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