Smart move (maybe) - if Google is paying Twitter to get their content, why shouldn't Google be paying others as well? News Corp is a big entity - is it a loss for Google to lose all that content or a loss for News Corp?
- Jesse Stay
from Bookmarklet
Good, it would save me the trouble of having to look to see if something comes from Murdoch's entities. I doubt this will actually happen, though.
- Rob H.
Sorry but most people won't even realize that News Corp content is missing. People will search and they'll find other sites. Sorry, the unibrow of the web wins.
- AJ Kohn
So if I link to a News Corp article via Twitter... will that tweet not be searchable?
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, they can block Google spider from news corp sites but twitter will still be indexed as usual.
- Amit Morson
Would be a good move if News Corp carried ALL the news (sorry for allcaps). But there are plenty of others wanting for Google love.
- Mike Reynolds
When Murdoch and his kind get together to set a price, the Government will step in to stop what is obvious price fixing. His threat is hollow, they won't set a price.
- Wallace
Calacanis suggested he do this???? It figures....
- Roberto Bonini
He was saying the top ten news oranizations should get together and make an offer to Bing... but that Rupert was likely the only one with the balls to do it; and that Google set a precedent by paying Twitter to index their content. :o)
- Ken Morley
It's curious that he would say search engine referral visitors aren't desired by advertisers.
- Rob Sterling
Only way to make money from your content is to control it from the beginning. News Corp gave it away in several ways on the internet, including allowing Google search to go through their websites. Now that it has happened, if they choose to close off key avenues of information to go out to the users that are now used to getting their information a certain way, will backfire beyond...
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- CW™
One word, "Antitrust." Or is that two words? The bulk Twitter feed apparently was not available to the public or it would have already been searched by Google. If content is available to the public now for free, I don't know how you are going to exclude some member of the public (Google) from accessing that content without creating a legal problem.
- Jimmy Walker
I love moves that make old media harder to get to, driving those bastards farther behind their walls, marginalizing their impact even further. It makes just that much more space to allow the future to get her sooner.
- Matthew DeVries
I guess new media won't kill old media after all. Old media will simply commit suicide.
- Victor Ganata
I think Rupert should do it. Not because I want see News Corp. die (sorry all) but because they have a right to control their content, and he is probably right about the fact that losing readership to actually paying subs is more worth it in the end. Plus, if google had to pay Twitter for content, why shouldn't Google pay for their content which *is* worth MUCH more (whether we like it or not)
- Holden Page
And Jason just sent around an email newsletter explaining. I'd post it but its Copyrighted.
- Roberto Bonini
Why is he "talking about it"? Couldn't a quick change to the robots.txt file (which Google and legitimate search robots obey) exclude Google?
- Brian Sullivan
Jason get rich by flux, it doesn't matter to him who wins, as long as there is change, upheaval and instability. Flat markets are Satan that he must fight. It does not surprise me that he advocates points of view that represent a sea change in the industry. It matters not to him whether new media or old media wins, just that there is a decade of fighting.
- Matthew DeVries
For sure they want to be' payd as Twitter, the move to exit from the index is a suicide about advertising, by now it guarantee 100000 imp x day (It's in the answer of google to Murdock).
- Lucio Riccardi - CantorJF
from iPhone
Does anyone known if the Burj Dubai is still scheduled to be done by January of 2010?
- Bluesun 2600
Here's the most recent info I could find; "the supertall skyscraper in Dubai, designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill of Chicago, had been scheduled to open on Dec. 2. But its debut has been pushed back to January 4." Chicago Tribune
- Michael Fidler
Thanks for sharing the video Drew. It's amazing how relaxed they were the whole time. Tad, I'm aware of the labor practices over there,and I don't condone it. However, I can still appreciate this as the engineering & architectural milestone it is. After all, it's more than twice the height of the Empire State Building!
- Michael Fidler
Thanks everyone. As a final note, if you want to see something which demonstrates how tall this building is; then take a look at the most recent photos. The link is on the upper left-hand side of the page. Often a photographer can get away with taking a picture when their camera isn’t perfectly level, but this building is so tall (usually stretching from one end of the frame to the...
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- Michael Fidler
you just made my color blind self cry tears of joy - I can now click that to discover all of the links that some crazy color mad designer has "hidden" from me by their color choices
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I'm still on Chrome 3.0.195.27 but it says no update detected... this is in Win7. Pretty sure my OSX Chrome is 4.0.223.11 though.
- Jan Ole Peek
4.0.223.11 is the latest in the dev stream.
- Brian Sullivan
Works on Chrome Mac version here. I added the script as a new bookmark in the menu.
- Jesper Lind
Try this instead to avoid the %20 weirdness: javascript:void(document.body.contentEditable=(document.body.contentEditable!='true'))
- Matt Mastracci
Doesn't seem to work either -- maybe a bug in the dev version?
- Brian Sullivan
World's coolest bookmarklet, especially those who are creating demo apps.
- Mike Reynolds
Wow, this is awesome (works perfectly for me in Firefox 3.5). Simple Bookmarklet code that makes Web pages "editable". Now if only there were save + back buttons or something = Instant Wiki.
- Alex Schleber
I realized after playing for a while, some of the keyboard events stop working, like submitting form by hitting Enter .. (FF 3.5.3)
- Onur Gündüz
this is the fundamental line of every wysiwyg editor you use. for IE use allowEdit
- Tzury Bar Yochay
Clicking it a second time makes it un-editable (and therefore it should respond to events and such).
- Paul Buchheit
Cool, worked for me (the box is Windows Chrome 3.0.195.27)
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I mean in all open tabs and windows, not just in editable mode. It stayed that way, still no keyboard events (not restarted ff yet) :)
- Onur Gündüz
Figured how to make it but what's it good for - pretending to rip other people's stuff to sh*t?
- Michael Slattery
Michael - I'm thinking about possible use as a minor webdesign tool. Of course other tools are more powerful, but this is a nice simple one.
- Deborah Fitchett
"On September 22nd, the Mesker Park Zoo welcomed two beautiful jaguar girls born to first time parents Beliza and Cuxtal. The cubs currently weigh 7 pounds, but are gaining weight quickly so we suggest you get to the zoo as fast as possible. However, if a trip to Indiana isn't in the cards in the near future, you can watch them from anywhere in the world via the zoo's live streaming Jaguar Cam!"
- mjc
from Bookmarklet
"Master haunt modeller Ray Keim sez, "After a little bit of experimentation and a lot of patience, I figured out how to carve Putka Pods [ed: small, pumpkin-like dried seeds] into extremely tiny jack-o-lanterns!""
- CW™
from Bookmarklet
"The government-controlled company, through its new "Deed for Lease" program, will allow borrowers to transfer ownership to Fannie Mae and sign a one-year lease, with month-to-month extensions after that."
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
@Anthony: Correct, kicking the can down the street doesn't mean the can goes away ... just delaying the inevitable and propping up housing markets for a little longer.
- AJ Kohn
This is a good plan. It saves the expense of foreclosure and avoids the owner/tenant filing for bankruptcy to buy more time. More time is good for Fannie Mae if they own the house because they are more likely to get a better price for the house next year. Also, the owner/tenant many be able to repurchase the home next year.
- Jimmy Walker
Here is the way I see it: ( http://money.cnn.com/news... ) These Guys divided by ( http://answers.yahoo.com/questio... ) Equals 6.4 Trillions committed to this fiasco, ($62,750- apiece to home owners ) counting 103 million home owners receiving the money. So if the money went to struggling home owners instead of the...
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- ThatDBD
@ThatDBD: I don't like giving that money to homeowners either. Many of these homeowners are as much to blame for this as the banks. Instant gratification and pure ignorance of money matters - they bought way too much house then they could afford. Also, by giving the money to homeowners you're really just giving it to the banks. Home prices were (and still are) artificially high. Who...
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- AJ Kohn
@AJ Kohn Well the home owners are not starting wars out there and they are not subsidizing banks who are using the money both on and off shore. If I were to make a sounder investment with an immediate return, IE money going right back to the Gov, homeowners would make that happen. Banks are paying all sorts of high fees for go-between people and their presidents and high officers. Little of the money is applied to the problem. Just an opinion Sic.
- ThatDBD
@ThatDBD: Oh, I'm not saying the banks deserve the money. I'm anti-bailout in general. I'd rather concentrate on getting our money out of Iraq (though Afghanistan is still necessary IMO) and putting money to work for jobs, education and health care. Personal and corporate responsibility means you have to learn from your mistakes. Giving banks or over-extended homeowners a mulligan doesn't lead to responsibility which - IMO - is what this nation needs to get back to.
- AJ Kohn
@Jimmy: a better price next year? not likely. @AJ: if they have found themselves in this situation, they are not homeowners.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
@Anthony: Good point. A type of housing serfdom.
- AJ Kohn
10% unemployment means this is pointless exercise in postponing inevitable
- WarLord
So now Obama wants to take over the housing industry? This basically makes Uncle Sam the ultimate landlord! Let's make this clear, Uncle Sam "allows" homeowners to GIVE him the deed to their HOME. Then, Uncle Sam charges the EX-homeowners RENT to stay in their own homes?!?!? This must be stopped.
- David C. Cooper
David, the homeowners didn't actually own the home, it was mortaged through Fannie Mae. Which means Uncle Sam already held the deed to the home and was taking money in order to theoretically transfer it to the new owner once the balance was paid 30 years down the road. Now the person in question will just pay money for rent and Uncle Sam will keep the deed. The person can break the lease and move if they need to without going into foreclosure and Uncle Sam can sell the property when and if appropriate.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm excited by the idea of Fannie Mae being a landlord. They do realize that renters generally trash the hell out of a house, right? The resale value when the market improves will be terrible.
- Jason Huebel
@warlord: yes, thus my original metaphor. @Tina: don't bother; with David, everything is the President's fault and/or evil plan
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
@ffing enigma You are right to point out that these houses have no monitary value to to the homeowner. Being on a lease that the owner can walk away from is a matter of value to the homeowner. @Anthony Owners evicted ejected from foreclosed home are notoriously abusive to the homes. They tend to take things like dishwashers, light fixtures and mantles. Worse, after they vacate the homes, the vandals go in and take whatever is left including copper wiring and water pipes.
- Jimmy Walker
Everyone, mortgages and deeds are not like car titles and car loans. When your name is on a deed, regardless of whether you owe money to a bank or lender for the purchase (a transaction called a mortgage with all kinds of legal precedent on the rights that bestows), you own that property. You are responsible to the community it is in for taxes and duties regarding upkeep. That property...
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- Cole Jolley
Cole, the manner in which you describe mortgages is in fact no different than the way my current car payment works. My name is on the title, I am responsible for the taxes and duties of upkeep, I can use it as collateral, and I am free to resell it. The simple fact of the matter, though, is that my car on which I make payments and my house on which I make payments are mine *in name...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, actually it is quite different. If you purchased a car using a loan, the lender will be listed as a lienholder on your car title. Some lenders even maintain copy of that title until the loan is paid. You won't be able to transfer that title (i.e., sell the car) without their agreement. Title to property works differently. Conveyance is a matter of public record. Your rights to the...
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- Cole Jolley
This notion of "ownership" is a curious illusion, even when the property is debt free. You really can't own anything beyond the point where the law will recognize and protect your exclusive possession. Where the property is encumbered by debt, the law still protects the owner, until foreclosure, just as much as if it were debt free. Either way, we enjoy this illusion of ownership. It's no surprise that "owners" in bankruptcy cases propose to pay much more than the property is worth to preserve "ownership."
- Jimmy Walker
LOL - I'm going to use that phrase - "ownership is a curious illusion" - sometime!
- Cole Jolley
To me, twitter's value is only as adjunct to FF
- RAPatton
from iPhone
But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids?
- Bradley Farless
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person?
- Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though.
- Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Love him when he's unicorn watching.
- Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o
- Adam Lasnik
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense.
- Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm
- Neal Jansons
I am beginning to finally get it... If you post on Friendfeed you get comments... If you post on Twitter, you get followers. If you are marketing something (e.g. your blog/brand, your product/service) getting followers is much better than getting comments.
You need to than unfollow those users...:)) Twitter is a lot more about broadcasting and getting followers is like a drug.. the more you broadcast the more followers you get :)
- Bindu Reddy
Getting followers doesn't really mean anything: 390 of the 400 followers I have on Twitter never act or do anything with what I say on it. Getting them to convert is the meaningful part of the marketing proposition, and conversations, I've found, are far more effective at that.
- Mark Trapp
So, what's the FAQ for interaction on Twitter? I had a post that got 100+ comments the other day here on Friendfeed but no response on Twitter. I must be doing something wrong over there.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
twitter seems to be great for people who are lazy and not really savvy about marketing. it's sort of like shouting into the void, and you might get a few people to respond, but do you really get people to act?
- Bren, Photophobe
@Mark, I agree with you.. However to a lot of people having a follower number like 10K/20K, which seems like a relatively easily thing to do on Twitter, is not only just a high but it is also a good way to keep in touch with your audience without spending too much time... Here keeping in touch with your audience is way more time consuming
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, but keeping in touch doesn't mean anything if they're not listening. You can have a million followers, but if you're not getting any of them to act on what you're saying, it doesn't mean much. Getting conversations going with people, who may or may not be followers, which Twitter is pretty bad at, are more effective at getting people to convert. I just had a relatively popular...
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- Mark Trapp
Bindu, I'm following you (FF) and I just commented too :)
- Micah Wittman
@Mark, Curious how did you get them to go to your website?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, if I knew that I'd have it made. Near as I can tell, people were doing Twitter and Google searches for "twitter list," and then started retweeting it and sharing it from there.
- Mark Trapp
Following is such a low-risk endeavor that people don't put thought into it: they'll follow anyone and everyone. You even have people thinking it's common decency to automatically follow people if they follow you without even thinking about if their content is interesting. Following is the 21st century equivalent of receiving a phone book or the yellow pages: you do it just in case you need to contact or get ahold of someone in the future, but nobody ever realistically does.
- Mark Trapp
Yep, it's like collecting business cards that get neatly filed into a big binder. It's about the self-satisfaction of the collection - you feel more connected / networked / important and avoid doing the hard work of cold calling or meeting with people and building something or whatever.
- Micah Wittman
I agree with following being a low-risk effort... However I have also heard of ppl gaining value from Twitter without much effort. Take for example this coffeshop I am a big fan of - sightglass coffee. They get a lot of customers from Twitter. It takes them relatively little time to tweet and they get customers. It would be very hard to achieve the same on FF.
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get lots of conversation on Twitter, too. One of the reasons I am there more than here is because people with common interest in my political obsessions are there, but not here.
- Karoli
Karoli - Yes, the Twitterverse is way more diverse than the FFverse. Curious do you get more comments/conversations per post on Twitter as compared to FF or is it that you you post more stuff because time spent per post is lower on Twitter
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, I get very little response to political conversations/comments on FF - a couple of folks follow here but a very small percentage compared to twitter. I tried to pull people over here, but they didn't understand why they should leave tweetdeck and their twitter setup for new territory.
- Karoli
Geeks (+ early adopters, influential folks, the elite ...) are on FriendFeed and the proletariat on Twitter? Long live the dictatorship of the proletariat? Calls for action work best when the audience actually cares, so prolly that's all about choosing the right medium for the targeted punters?
- Sebastian
Sebastian... yes agree the geeks and tech bloggers are on FF... However if you are marketing say a fashion or beauty blog. You won't get much interest here. twitter is the place for you :)
- Bindu Reddy
I disagree with that statement, Bindu. There's a LOT of non-tech getting traction on FriendFeed. So much so that it's the number one reason Scoble no longer enjoys being here: he says he doesn't see enough tech for his liking.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Just butting in here to mention that there are tons of uses for both twitter and friendfeed that have nothing whatsoever to do with marketing. In fact, once could make the argument that social networks such as these were designed to get away from marketing. Unlike radio, TV, or even a web search, you choose who you'll be receiving information from. If you're looking to exchange...
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- Mr. Gunn
Bindu, what I'm sick of is marketers broadcasting their sales pitches to all social media outlets out there, regardless whether the audience might fit or not. Anyways, i'ts possible to attract a few somewhat intelligent responses to geeky topics at Twitter, at least when xmas and independence day share the same date. Most probably I wouldn't try to sell wonder bras at FF, though.
- Sebastian
@Tina ... umm I have not been an avid user of FF lately so maybe it has become pretty diverse. Are you saying there are a lot of people on here with specific interests such as politics, beauty etc?
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu: Ning is a better place to go if you have very specific topics you want to talk about. They are growing a FriendFeed every 12 days (they are getting a million new users that often and have just passed 38 million registered). FriendFeed is fun if you aren't sure what you want to chat about and you're cool with seeing lots of family pictures and goofy stuff. Tina is right that the hard-core geeks are mostly on Twitter or Facebook now, I keep watching here, though.
- Robert Scoble
Karoli I get all kinds of action here on political topics. I have more followers on Twitter but rarely get a response there. Here I got 80+ comments yesterday.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
MVB, Karoli is a prolific voice on twitter. Twitter seems quite effective for political advocacy/activism even though longer form convos have to break out somewhere else. Also, just like friendfeed, volume / steady presence can make all the difference. Your tweet count is ~2K; Karoli's over 63K.
- Micah Wittman
My presence here is similar to Kaoli's on Twitter, then. So, presence is a mitigating factor. But, Micah, as you so deftly point out, for a long conversation there needs to be a move to another venue. That's where here works better, since it can stay right here.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
We agree, and can agreed at length right here, folks :)
- Micah Wittman
So link your twitter to your friendfeed. Get followers and comments. The best of both worlds.
- Hareesh Nagarajan
Does it make any difference here whether the original post was to Twitter and reposted here automatically or the original post was directly here? In other words, does the FF community prefer to comment on direct posts rather than Twitter reposts?
- Jimmy Walker
Jimmy: it honestly depends on who you interact with on FriendFeed. There are people who get irate about people only posting to Twitter and openly advocate using FriendFeed directly, and yet, there are interesting people who always get a conversation going around their tweets. One thing that sometimes helps is coming back to FriendFeed and elaborating on your tweet, or to do more than...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark, that sounds like good advice. Thanks.
- Jimmy Walker
So far the winners are: Alex Scoble, Scott of Two Countries, LogEx, Glen Campbell, John Flynn, Chris Greene, Alex Scoble, Imabonehead, Veƶqueӽ: Blank of FF, Jimminy Fuller, John Flynn, Imabonehead, GENiE (Mohomed Abdullahi AKA genieyclo), Nicholas James, Dave - SustainedEuphoria...
Davis Freeberg, jcunwired, Davis Freeberg, Mohomed Abdullahi, Mike Reynolds, Alex Scoble, Dave - SustainedEuphoria, John Flynn, jcunwired, David HC Soul, John Flynn, Shey, Mike Reynolds, Nicholas James, Mike Reynolds, Jason T Fleming, John Flynn, Vezquez, John Flynn, Andrew, Steven Perez, Aviv and David HC Soul.
- Alex Scoble
akvaryumun neresi huzur veriyor anlamış değilim (lütfen anlatmayın). ben çalışamazdım şıpır şıpır sesten. bir de gigantik akvaryumlarla dekorasyon yapan restoranlar ve harşşş sesiyle kafa zımbalayan alışveriş merkezleri var ki, of of.
- aytun çelebi
"Comparing the aesthetics of the iPhone and the Droid is.. ludicrous, if not impossible. It’d be like having a heated argument over whether Angelina Jolie was more or less gorgeous than Halle Berry."
- j1m
from Bookmarklet
"...here’s what you get with this laptop: 1.2GHz Intel CULV SU2300 processor, 11.6 inch glossy 1366 x 768 pixel display, GMA 4500MHD graphics, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1 and a Multitouch touchpad with two distinct buttons for left and right clicks. The laptop has a 6 cell, 57WHr, 7 hour battery and runs Windows 7 Home Premium. The U150 weighs about 3.3 pounds and measures 0.5 to 1.35 inches thick."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
This indicates that iPhone-growth primarily happens elsewhere: iPhone-users are fans of internet-surfing - but not of surfing the mobile websites. Instead they prefer the regular stuff. Although not entirely convincing, you are actually able to navigate the full-fledged web-version on your iPhone to such an extend, most users won’t settle with the stripped-down mobile websites.
- Lode Nachtergaele
from Bookmarklet
The first communication from aliens to Earth, and the effin' local ABC studio wants to cover the translation with their lower third updates on the election. Hey KTRK, thanks a lot.
Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos. (SWIDT?)
- Kevin Fox
Ghah! That's terrible because there was actually some critical info in some of those translations.
- Paul Wilcox
Somebody must have DVR'd it and be able to screen cap it for you. Your frustration reminds me of @onetruebix's tweets about what his local Fox affiliate does to Dollhouse.
- Spidra Webster
They kept cutting out the beginning of dances on "So You Think You Can Dance" last week to broadcast, again and again, that the Bay Bridge was closed, and they'd have more later. 'Later' apparently meant in 15 minutes, and 'more' meant they'd be talking about it more, not that they'd have additional info.
- Kevin Fox
It's National Sandwich Day! So designated because November 3 marks the birthday of John Montagu, the 4th Earl of Sandwich, who popularized everyone's favorite lunch so long ago. Looking to celebrate? We've rounded up the Best of Serious Eats Sandwich Coverage in honor of the occasion. And if you need a primer, start with Ed's 22 Sandwiches That Will Change Your Life.
- Derrick
"The idea that there is more than one universe, each with its own laws of physics, arises out of several different theories, including string theory and cosmic inflation. This concept of a "multiverse" could explain a puzzling mystery - why dark energy, the furtive force that is accelerating the expansion of space, appears improbably fine-tuned for life. With a large number of universes, there is bound to be one that has a dark energy value like ours. Calculating the probability of observing this value - and other features of the cosmos - depends on how many universes of various kinds populate the multiverse."
- bcultral
from Bookmarklet
Quite strange that we might have many parallel universes that are passing through our bodies right now. Just on a different dimension, as suggested by modern physics.
- Mike Reynolds
"Philip Glass - Circles Classical | Easy CD-DA, FLAC tracks, No CUE, No Log | 1 CD, Cover, LQ | 210 MB CD Date: November 17, 1998 | Materiali Sonori “ Music for piano solo, or the result of arrangements for more than one piano, or for piano and cello, with an interpretative richness and depth such as to place the "classic" composer Philip Glass in a position of absolute distinction. With its absence of refrains and points of melodic support, it has the flavour of an opera which, above and beyond the so-called minimalist movement, now belongs in the history of contemporary music. Arturo Stalteri plays Yamaha pianos. "Étoile Polaire", "Victor's Lament", "River Run" and "Ave", originally included on the soundtrack of "North Star", are here in Arturo Stalteri's arrangement. "Ave" cello is played by Damiano Puliti."
- MadMoud
from Bookmarklet
philip Glass is really a perfect composer
- pianist
Phillies v Yankees or .... Mets v Reds (I mean, come on - there is this thing called photoshop if you don't actually have a new photo from the new team.)