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Flaw in encryption armor discovered | Security - CNET News - http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...

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The flaw, which lies in version 4.7 of OpenSSH on Debian/GNU Linux, allows 32 bits of encrypted text to be rendered in plaintext, according to a research team from the Royal Holloway Information Security Group (ISG). - LANjackal from Bookmarklet

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Ok, too bad the latest edition of OpenSSH is version 5.2. "Patterson said his group had worked with OpenSSH developers to mitigate the flaw, and that OpenSSH version 5.2 contained countermeasures." - Wizetux

@Wizetux: True, but AFAIK not all distros/OSes that use OpenSSH incorporate the latest version. I'm pretty sure there're quite a few LTS installations out there running the insecure one. - LANjackal

True, but seeing that an attacker has a one in 262,144 chance of success, I still feel pretty safe using OpenSSH. - Wizetux

@Wizetux: True, but that doesn't change the fact that the flaw exists. I see your point though. - LANjackal

And you can always compile and use the latest version on any distro. - Wizetux

Thanks for the security update! - Mitchell Tsai

np - LANjackal

Lindsay is :)

Not happy with Mozy right now. I had more than 250GB of stuff backed up that suddenly seems to have gone *poof*. It took months to get all that uploaded... Waiting to hear back from their CS people but if the answer is "sorry your data will have to be uploaded again" I'm finding another service that's more reliable.

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Amazon S3 + Jungledisk. Sure it's more expensive than other backup solutions, but it's ROCK SOLID STABLE. - Thparqui, totally a fake

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Please keep us informed - Glen Campbell from iPhone

@Thparqui - you haven't seen my history of searching for a good backup service. I've already got an Amazon S3 account but can't afford to back up the 450GB worth of stuff I need to backup on it. I currently have about 150GB worth of stuff up there and it's all I can budget. I chose Mozy after a LOT of research and debate because it was the most affordable option even though I can't do stuff like access my files easily or share them with people like you can on S3. - Lindsay is :)

How much is your data really worth to you? My data is my life - I'll gladly pay the $40 a month for that much on S3 to be 100% confident in it's stability. - Thparqui, totally a fake

It's worth a lot to me, but $5/mo seemed like a much more reasonable deal. And I had heard good things about Mozy. - Lindsay is :)

I don't trust ANY provider for my data that is still in startup mode. They could go out of business at a moments notice, and don't have the 10+ year business track record Amazon has, nor do they have Amazon's deep coffers for weathering bad times for web services. - Thparqui, totally a fake

Why not just get a couple external drives if you are backing up that much? - Geoff Schultz

When you're talking about my important data, I'd much rather have it on a drive in a fire box than in limbo in the "cloud." - Sean McGee from iPhone

@Geoff Because 1) I want something offsite 2) I want something super redundant 3) I want something daily and 4) I want something automatic. I don't have time to be constantly switching out drives and I don't trust harddrives anyway. I don't have time to be ferrying a drive to a safe deposit box somewhere and I want access to my files wherever I happen to be (what If I'm traveling and... more... - Lindsay is :)

@Sean The cloud thing doesn't bother me... never has. I like the cloud. I don't trust MYSELF to keep physical backups. - Lindsay is :)

I have 2.5Tb on my home server. At least 1Tb of that needs backing up. S3 et al are all too expensive :) - Roberto Bonini

@Thparqui - I agree with you about Amazon and that's why I have the 150GB there. That the "most important" stuff... The rest of it is important too... I am gambling that if Mozy died it wouldn't happen at the same time my harddrive would croak. But I'm not willing to pay Mozy if my data just poofs off their servers with no notice or explanation. $40/mo is a lot of money for the S3 alternative though. Sigh. - Lindsay is :)

I dont mind the cloud either but uploading 250+ gigs is kind of impractical at 1mbps or whatever you got. Unless you are on like FiOS or something. - Geoff Schultz

@Geoff - no kidding... it took months... That's why I'm so upset that my data has vanished all the sudden. That's a large investment of my time and bandwidth. - Lindsay is :)

@Roberto i rather backup my stuff myself. home server + external hard drives is how i would do it. - Alfredo

@Alfredo - what do you do if you have a house fire... what if you aren't home to grab your drives? Would you risk your life to grab them if you were? - Lindsay is :)

no i would not risk my life to grab them. - Alfredo

Hehe, thats why I suggested multiple externals. One goes either in the safe or to a relatives house :) - Geoff Schultz

Yeah, but depending on how often you do that you'll still lose lots of stuff. And, again, I simply don't have time to chauffeur my harddrives around... Especially to my closest relatives... visits eat up too much time. - Lindsay is :)

Windows Home Server is all Redundant Storage. Photos to keep are on Smugmug. But I need to find somthing for everything else. I'm not risking my life to grab the drives :) - Roberto Bonini

How much space do you get on Smugmug and would they let you store Photoshop files? I use Flickr but can't upload the Photoshop Files... and I'm afraid they're going to go down the tubes soon anyway. Also they don't let me upload the full resolution images and resize them so I don't think of them as a permanent storage solution for my images. - Lindsay is :)

I'm with Linsay; while a local hard drive copy of your stuff is good to have, it is by no means a complete solution. You have to have offsite backup. Period. This is not debatable. And using cloud services makes this much more likely to happen than if you are trying to ferry around physical devices manually -- sooner or later the routine is going to break down. And even if you are good... more... - Christopher A. Wichura

@Christoper - Yay! Someone understands my concerns. :) - Lindsay is :)

I currently use iDrive. I get 150GB for me, and 150GB for my wife for under $10 a month. Automatic. It worked fine so far. - Ian May

Oh I understand your concerns, I just have 900 gigs of video and can't even imagine uploading that hehe. - Geoff Schultz

Well, Geoff, look at how bandwidth has been increasing and storage fees dropping over time. It won't be all that long before storing terabytes in the cloud is no more difficult than storing a couple hundred gigabytes is today... - Christopher A. Wichura

Yeah, it sucks, Geoff... it used to be that the main barrier to producing lots of files was physical harddrive space. Now harddrives are cheap but online storage has not come down in price with them so now the barrier is the cost of actually backing up your data securely... I hate having to pick and choose what's important to me or not and back it up simply because it's too expensive. - Lindsay is :)

Carbonite? I like them. The only thing I don't like about Carbonite is that it doesn't support USB devices yet. - Tamar Weinberg

@Tamar - guess it wouldn't work for me... my storage drives are all USB (my main computer is a laptop). Also I always had a bad vibe on Carbonite for some reason... - Lindsay is :)

Yeah that was my next question. I wouldn't have a bad vibe about them, though. I had them on 2 computers for a year and then when I ported everything to USB drives, I let my subscription die. I'll be back on track with them once they announce USB device support. - Tamar Weinberg

Lindsay: Check out Backblaze - https://www.backblaze.com/ It was started by a bunch of ex Apple people and it is really evident in the clean UI and manner in which it just works. I love the service - been using for about 4 months. - Mike Bracco

@Lindsay: Not sure what type of stuff you are backing up (you did mention Photoshop files, though). For me, most of what I back up is photos. My approach is to back up the original RAW files and maybe a handful of Photoshop files that represented a large amount of post work for specific images. Otherwise, I figure if I have to re-do any post work in the future and am doing a restore,... more... - Christopher A. Wichura

@Mike - I had evaluated Backblaze and almost chose it over Mozy. It was a pretty close race. I went with Mozy because I liked their UI better and I had been aware of them longer. But I might go with Backblaze if Mozy doesn't fix my issue. - Lindsay is :)

Another vote for Jungledisk & Amazon S3. - Tom Hoover from iPhone

Smugmug will stick all your psds RAW files, etc on S3 for you. And tie them all together with the finished photos in the gallery. Kinda like a workflow thing. - Roberto Bonini

@Christoper - I have been lazy and not really gotten into RAW yet (I know, I should... but those take up even MORE room than my big JPEG originals). Most of the stuff I'm backing up is photos and Photoshop edits, yes, but some of it is downloads of licensed software that I may not have access to later, also I'm a developer so I have old code projects, Subversion repositories and other... more... - Lindsay is :)

Lindsay - SmugMug has the SmugVault and it allows for RAW and PSD storage & viewing (http://www.smugmug.com/help...). Not sure of costs... - JA Castillo (جاسون)

Oh...here's the costs link... http://www.smugmug.com/price... - JA Castillo (جاسون)

To be more specific, these days I use a Mac for photo editing. I import stuff into Aperture with library on the laptop's internal drive. My local backup is the Aperture vault on a Drobo. When done with a project, I then export the project to a separate directory structure on the Drobo where JungleDisk's backup is configured to pick things up and automatically store it on S3. So I am... more... - Christopher A. Wichura

@JA Ahh, so it's basically the same as Amazon S3... I would probably rather just directly use my account then. - Lindsay is :)

@Christoper - I actually use Super Flexible File Synchronizer instead of JungleDisk. I've used JungleDisk before when it was free but SFFS is a one time cost vs the subscription and it really is flexible (I can use it to schedule jobs to stuff other than S3). - Lindsay is :)

@Lindsay - at least it gives you the opportunity to use SmugMug as a sharing site. I have no real back-up system other than external drives, so I am interested in what comes of this (I remember your initial thread about back-up choices; a doozy!). Just had a 320 GB drive tank w/ all my video files on it. A cloud solution looks likely for me as well. - JA Castillo (جاسون)

JungleDisk is a one time cost, too... The subscription model they introduced is not mandatory. JD was $20 one time for me and I use it from four different machines all to access my same S3 account. (Since they license it by S3 account, not by seat.) - Christopher A. Wichura

On-line could be more off-site safe, but small portable drives are cheaper & cheaper. Just saw 250 GB drives for $60 at Wal-Mart. I have three backup hard drives in Ohio & one 500 GB pocket drive which I travel with (I have older 20 GB & 120 GB pocket drives which I no longer use). Pricewatch http://pricewatch.com/browse... shows pocket 500 GB drives at... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Along the lines of backup redundancy, I've been hit by lightning while on a computer (which fried both the computer & the floppy disk in the computer so badly it was unformatable), and used to run backups for UCLA CS many years. Backup media often fail. An expert at Harvard (with zillions of Fortune 500 clients) recommends at least a four-copy solution (with one off-site). Why? Your... more... - Mitchell Tsai

At UCLA, when restoring from backup media...I'd say about 10% of the time, the tape backup media copy was damaged. So when restoring files from this week's backup, I might have to grab a few files from last weeks' backup, because this week's backup was damaged. I have had dropout problems when restoring from my backup hard drives, so I have lost a few pictures (which may or may not be on my other backup drives, haven't bothered to search through all my backups for the damaged files). - Mitchell Tsai

I'd say a hard drive tends to break down about once/5-10 years. When managing tons of hard drives, they are always breaking down. But with my own personal computers, I've had two die in 23 years. This doesn't count minor drops and lost data due to bad sectors. - Mitchell Tsai

Mozy slowed my computer down too much, so i canceled. - Mike Reynolds

Lindsay I got this reply to my Liked Tweet http://twitter.com/devinkn... from Davinknighton (davin@mozy.com) email him and he will sort your mozy issue for you. it seems they keep 30 days retention backup. so hopefully your file are still recoverable. Good luck - zsafwan 

Hey, I work for Mozy. Email me at nate@mozy.com with your Mozy account email and we'll get you taken care of. - Nate Kartchner

@Nate - just sent you an email. Thanks. - Lindsay is :)

@Mitchell One nice thing about S3 is it is built around the assumption of cheap hardware that will fail. They mirror your data, and between east and west coast data centers, to boot. - Christopher A. Wichura

Used to use Mozy, switched to Carbonite-sooo much better. Don't even know it's there. - Bret Rowe

So far, for me, S3 + Jungledisk has been awesome. But as my backed up data grows, so does the price.... - Anthony Citrano

That's the problem with S3- Cost. It's the fairest pricing structure possible. But grows quickly. If they can charge by the terabyte at some point, it would go along way for individuals with large amounts of data to back up. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

I don't see it as a “problem”, per se, Roberto. As you say, it's fair. - Anthony Citrano

I left Mozy to run while I went on vacation and came back to a process that had apparently stalled less than a day in. TBH I think cloud backup is still very unreliable at this point, and not fast enough for me anyway. I roll my own backup solution via external & portable HDDs. - LANjackal

@Anthony - I would see S3s pricing structure to be more fair if it reflected the quickly dropping price of the physical drives... Prices per storage of a GB of storage on a physical drive has dropped a lot in the last couple of years, but S3s prices have not dropped proportionally (though I do acknowledge that they have dropped a tiny bit). - Lindsay is :)

Mozy pulled that crap with me a few months ago and I ditched them for backblaze. - Brett Kelly from iPhone

Carbonite has worked well for me for over 3 years. - EARL (Born in the USA)

I could never get Mozy to successfully back up 40gb + from my mac, let alone 200gb+ of media. Too slow, made my MPB crash, etc etc. The mac client also was too limited compared to what the windows client allowed in features. Finally had to cancel. I reason that a couple of extra drives +speed will make up for any additional cost incurred. - Cole Jolley

+1. Just not worth it IMO. Not to mention that at least I can resolve issues with my own my own hardware immediately instead of waiting for Mozy/some other remote provider to deliver a fix - LANjackal from IM

I have 246.4 GB on Mozy. I'm scared now. - Oliver Bouchard

No need to be, as long as you have it backed up locally somewhere. The ony reason I got into Mozy was as insurance in case my home got wiped out. I eventually resolved that concern my getting a 320GB portable WD HDD that I took to work with me every day - LANjackal from IM

Same here - I have everything backed up on a Drobo at home. It just took me around 1.5 years to upload al our photos to mozy (I only uploaded during the day, when I was at work). I don't want to do this again. - Oliver Bouchard from IM

250GB = 3.5 hours upload time for me, not months. I think the problem here is your isp. - Brandon

@Brandon What kind of connection do you have?! By Amazon's own admission, it would take "80 days to upload just 1TB of data over a T1 connection." According to their claims it would take over 12 days to upload your data over T1. - Brandon Titus

Backblaze? - Cecily

@Brandon: doing the math, 250GB/(3.5h * 3600 s/h) = 0.02GB/s = 20MBytes/s. In the unlikely event you actually have such a connection, it's not readily available to most people - LANjackal

Have any of you who have too much data to upload considered sending your drives to Amazon via their "Import/Export" program? It sounds like a cool thing although it's fairly pricey ($80 fee per drive and $2.50 per hour of transfer time). http://aws.typepad.com/aws... - Brandon Titus

Sounds like the ideal solution, but that's sickeningly expensive - LANjackal from IM

Yeah, it's clearly not priced for any kind of small data transfer like this but if someone had some really important data I think it could definitely be valuable. Of course, it's one time backup but it would get you to a point where all future files would be backed up directly. (Still doesn't help the cost of S3). - Brandon Titus

I don't understand why people are compelled to go with S3 or Rackspace. I mean, the idea is great but when you have 250GB, that's a LOT of money and you're paying monthly. Mozy/Carbonite/similar services aren't like that. - Tamar Weinberg

I've been using SugarSync for a while now.. fortunately (or unfortunately) I haven't had to test restoring files... if that time comes, I'll be sure to let everyone know how it went. I love their service and features, though. I thought their pricing was slightly higher than I wanted, so right now I am on the freebie version. Eventually, though - when they have an Android client and... more... - Tim Hoeck

Check out crashplan for p2p backup. Buy a hard drive or cheap Linux box and stash it at a friends house. You can prime it locally first to bootstrap yourself. Cost: $0. - Joe Beda from iPhone

Get in touch with @mozy on Twitter. Worked when I had mozy problems - Phill Price from iPhone

Phill, contact with Mozy already happened here on FriendFeed. See earlier comments in this thread. - Micah Wittman

@LANjackal: I do have such a connection, it is widely available now, you just have to have your isp drop fiber at your location. The price has gone down significantly too. 40Mb/s Down // 20Mb/s Up = $200-$500 a month depending on where you live. - Brandon

Nate/Lindsay, got an update for us? Is it OK now? :) - AJ Batac

whoa. - Caroline

@Brandon: OK cool, but that's just not doable for most people. I love my internet but I don't have $6K/year to drop on it - LANjackal from IM

Any update Lindsey? I will say I am impressed that mozy found you on here to help. I have mozy too and am pleased so far. It did take me 14 days to back up all my stuff but I like it so far. - Amani

wow that's not good CS - Dobromir Hadzhiev

I was just about to buy Mozy but will now give an extra thought - Martin Liechti from fftogo

Try Jungle Disk. - John Seals

LOL @ Brandon - If I had $200-$500 to drop on my home internet connection none of this would be an issue and I'd be using S3 instead. HAHAHA. Wish I could afford $6K a year just for the convenience of fast internet. - Lindsay is :)

I heard from Nate that he's looking into it and I heard back from the CS dept but it's still up in the air. The CS rep said that the files are still there but it would "take a while for the reassociation to happen". As far as I can tell Mozy is just trying to upload everything again and nothing is going any faster than it did the first time. I replied to the CS rep and asked him how I... more... - Lindsay is :)

Thparqi - startup? Go out of business? It's EMC.... I think they're safe..... - Jeff Douglass from iPhone

Okay, I have 300 gigs of unbackuped photos, and I'M SHIT SCARED. NOT A SINGLE BACUP - ONE DRIVE GOES KAPUT, AND I'M DEAD! - Yuvi

Mozy being EMC was one of the points that convinced me to use them. At least they should have access to good storage technology. But if they cannot pull of a reliable software then this doesn't help at all. - Oliver Bouchard from IM

With respect to Jungle Disk comments - I would suggest CrashPlan instead: 1)It's less expensive or even free. 2)It allows local backup, offsite to friends, and to their cloud. 3)When using their cloud, they automatically verify your data to insure it's in healthy order. Amazon just lets it rest. 4)You're not charged for bandwidth in or out.. and 5)if you needed it all back asap, they'd ship you a USB drive. - Matthew Dornquast

Lindsay - let us know the outcome. I'm sure it'll work out. I personally am going to stick w/ Mozy (assuming you have a good outcome:)) as I still trust that EMC is better than some fly by night place that could go out of business w/ my data overnight... - Jeff Douglass

Rochelle

Just arrived in the mail: both my city and state business licenses! I'm official!

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Yeay! Congrats! - Shevonne

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Yay! Congrats! You should totally celebrate. - Aden

very cool. congratulations! - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

woohoo!!! congratulations - सत्याग्रह {Bren}

:-)) - Live4Emma (L4S)

w00t! - Derrick

How exciting Rochelle. So cool to find your passion. - BEX

Congratulations - Mitchell Tsai

I'm not sure what to do with them now! I don't have an office to hang them in. - Rochelle

Congrats, Rochelle - Martha

Official, in what sense? What business are you launhing? - Nitin Nanivadekar

State DBA info took forever to come in. Glad you're on your way - Courtney Engle

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes! - rowlikeagirl

you can be my doula anytime. man, that sound drrty. - Jason Wyttenbach

Nitin, a birth doula business. - Rochelle

Jason, like I told Sparky, as soon as you can have a baby, I'll be your doula. :) - Rochelle

well i sure hope i have a leg up on sparky in the babymaking game. if not, i srsly need to work on my hetero-isms. - Jason Wyttenbach

Emma to Emma's feed, ART ROOMََََ

A Kind Of Magic ~ Soap Bubbles photographed by Bogdan Chesaru - http://www.akindofmagic.eu/

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oh wow...stunning! <333 - Live4Emma (L4S)

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Beautiful. Best share of the day :) Thanks, Emma. - Baard Overgaard Hansen

awww...thank you, Baard! :) - Emma

L4E: :* <333 - Emma

I LOVE the 3rd one and the 5th one. Awesome - Lindsay is :)

I thought the first one was a flock of sperms. - Yolanda

Beautiful patterns. - John

Cool - Mitchell Tsai

Me too Yolanda, i thought gee that's some pretty sperm, all rainbowy, must be a gay dude. - Steve C

Beautiful! - Michael Fidler

Wow. Hey, @iamdioniscio, look at this. Let's see if this inspires you to write a part 2 to your recent risque post. lols - jan geronimo

Johnny Worthington

How many people have actually used a typewriter? What is the average 'cut off age'?

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I used one until university. so, cut-off was, what, mid 80's? - MVB

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i used one very frequently until sometime in 1994. - Dead Silence

I've used one, many many years ago. Probably late 80s - Glenn Slaven

I used a typewriter once when I was fairly young, around the beginning of the nineties. We had a "modern" one and I was curious to see it in action. I made a typo in the first word. - Jonathan Hardesty from Android

You will probably still find them in use today in a lot of law firms. - Alex Scoble

My dad had one when I was little, and I managed to type a paper or two on it. Nothing major. - Carlton Hackett

typewriters are still used as backups in case our 486 pc's die at the firehall .. - johnpiercy

I used one in elementary and Jr high. Some in a work training job that I had with OC County in Jr High. - CW™

my first two were manuals, my last one was an electric Smith Corona from the early 1970s. the only reason i stopped using it in 1994 was becos a cousin of mine walked off with it one day. - Dead Silence

We had a typewriter at home until the early 1990s. I used to type opening paragraphs to the Tolkien-rip off fantasy novel that I never finished on it. My dad may actually still use one in his office on a daily basis even though he has a computer and a printer, too. - Victor Ganata

We had one of those big green IBM ones that I use to type my assignments out on until about the 90s. Just strange that my nephews (8 and 5) have never, ever seen one or used it. - Johnny Worthington from IM

I remember using my dad's when I was six or seven (mid-1980s). And when I worked at a bank, we used one to type up a few forms that had carbon copies in them. - Jandy

I love typewriters. - Mona Nomura

Probably early 90's in typing class - Rodfather

The last typewriter I used was in 1996. Law firms are slow adopters of technology or where. - Dave - SustainedEuphoria

I took a typing class over the summer in '92. That's the first and last time I used a typewriter for any length of time. I took a typing test on a typewriter when I interviewed for a temp agency in late '94. I think that was the last time I ever touched one. - Lindsay is :)

Very early 90's - Mo Kargas

I've used one before. but yea. early 90s - John Wang

I used a typewriter in the late-80s / early-90s. Parents thought my bro and I (hunt-and-poke typists) would best learn to type and that was in the days of typing class. Even though we needed to learn typing such that we'd type on the computer better. - Wirehead

I did, I'm 27. - Joshua Schnell

My Dad used to type up his tests for his students back in the mid-80's. I used his typewriter a couple of times to type up papers before we got our first computer around 88 or so. I'm 32 now. - Daryl Burns

Nope, 16. - /Users/genieyclo

When we donated dad's library we also included his beloved Selectric. They sent it back... - MVB

I used one until I got decent word processor software for my C-64, around 1989. My sister actually took a word processor to college her first year; second year, it was a PC. - Ladybug Heather

I took typing in 1989. Never used one again after the class, because I took computers the following semester - Matthew DeVries

I learned to type well before computers. - jlt-Janet

I had one when I was kid, early to mid 90's. - Sarah Peterman

I've used one. I'm 22. My dad had some old manual ones. - Aaron Hood from BuddyFeed

32 here as well. Used one to write up book reports. - Arlan Koizumi

I worked at a tiny 50 watt AM radio station in high school, and we used typewriters. I am 33. - Michelle Martinez

I'm 28 and I used one quite often as a kid. - Joe Pierce

High school typing class -- 1988 - Christopher Carr

High school typing classes: 1960-63 Best thing I ever did (though I hated it then). I can fly round the keyboard, touch-typing too. Cut-off when I got my first Mac (1984). - Kate Foy

I'm 24 and I remember using one a lot as a kid... I don't even think I used it to type schoolwork, I just liked typing random stuff on it for fun. Also, when I worked at an elementary school in 2004/2005, we had a word processor in the office that we used frequently. - Penguin ♉

I was using one at work in the early 90s. Maybe '92 at the latest. - Curtis Jackson

I've played with one before but never actually used it for anything. - Andrew Trinh from IM

The interesting bit is when you try going back to a typewriter from a computer. Messes with your head! - Kate Foy

Used one and I am 43, but never gone back to try and use one since moved to the computer. - Lyndon Washington

I'm 43 too and learned on one. Used them half way through college, and then they made us start using WordStar word processor. Dot commands, FTW?! - Rick Cogley

When I started working at Social Services in 1997 we used ballpoint pens and carbon paper. - m9m

I used one until 1995. Only used one once since then. - John

I kind of want an old skool mechanical typewriter (Although I have no place to put it) so I can preserve the antiquity as long as possible. - Wirehead

Although, I think I want a proportional spaced typewriter most of all. - Wirehead

I have one in my bedroom. Though, it's for fun. All of my work was always done on a computer. The typewriter was for zines or creative projects. I like the click click click. - joey

Used one regularly until I was 23 or so. I used one infrequently at my last job, some grants are required to be typed but people don't supply e-copies. Madness. - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

I used one when I was at college. I was a "secretary" for the undergrad music department. It was a workstudy - jamar78

I used one as a kid, maybe 3 or 4. It was cool, but huge and not as cool as Nintendo. - Mike Nayyar

Took typing class first year of high school and used one sporadically in the 60's. Not since though. - Brian Sullivan

I used one up until 1987 or so when I got a computer with a printer. My mom had an IBM Selectric that she was quite proud of. - Joey Gibson

1990. My mother had one never used one since. - M F

I used one in the mid-90's, didn't get far with it. I'm almost 20. - James Fuller

I certainly have! And I'm only 25! - Amy

Many times. I'm 27. - Bec Rowe @d0tski

< used. 25 - mjc

I still use one occasionally at my parent's office when they want me to type an envelope up or something. - ronin

I used one a LOT in the 80's. I just used one two weeks ago as well. It felt very quaint. - Jeremy Brooks

I took typing 101 in 1969, then took one to USC until 1973. - Russellreno

I just almost had an argument with my husband over his wanting to give away my old Brother typewriter........just seems wrong not to have one in the house. You know, for ransom notes and stuff. - suzanne

yep, learned how to type on a typewriter in the early 80s - Herb Hernandez from iPhone

I grew up with typewriters (and was hit by lighting while typing on one in my parent's basement). When I started college in 1982, there was only one computer among 40 students in my dorm. By my senior year 1985-86, there were 0.75-1.00 computers/student (helped by the Lisa/Mac release in 1984). In the 1990s at UCLA, we used typewriters occasionally to type on forms, but I left UCLA in 2000 and haven't used a typewriter in about 9 years. - Mitchell Tsai

I took typing in high school (82-85) and I owned a typewriter while I was in college. I didn't use it much because we got Macs at my college in 85-86. I think that typewriter is still at my parents' house. - Ha3rvey

One of my friends, Adrienne Su, http://users.dickinson.edu/~sua (now Poet-In-Residence at Dickinson College) went with me to the Harvard Bookstore browsing. I heard a strange music coming from the typewriter area. Adrienne was typing soooo fast and so musically - just dreamy. I've never heard anyone type like that since. - Mitchell Tsai

I learned to type on one in like 1990. - Brett Kelly from iPhone

Many friends typed papers in college for extra money. My roommate Howard Pollack was typing in the dark one day (on a manual typewriter), when the four of us turned on the lights to se what Howard was typing. He had been typing a transcript of our conversation (script-writing style) in real-time! Me, I never took typing in high school...ended up being a 40 wpm hunt & pecker... - Mitchell Tsai

I used my mothers as a kid, but I actually bought one for my first wife when she graduated college. - Ian May

Did in my high school typing classes, but not after that. I'm 32 - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

I learned to touch type on mechanical typewriters in 1986 at school (no Australia is not a third world country!). Electric typewriters were introduced in 1987. But I have never used a typwriter at work since then. - Matt G

Used one right up until the end of high school. - Steven Perez

I played with my grandparent's when I was a kid, but I had computers most of my life. - Neal Jansons

Typing class, high school. Electric, but an actual typewriter. Yes. - Micah Wittman

Early 80s - maybe 1982 or 83-ish? We actually had our first office PC hooked up to a typewriter as the printer because the typewriter type looked better than the dot-matrix type. Naturally, once I met the Mac in 1987, I never went back. - Mary Baum

I used my grandparents' one when I was about 8, so 1993. - Mitch

In the 90s, we dug out the old Olivetti and set it up for our daughter as a toy. She's now 19 and thinks of her MBP pretty much as a body part. - Mary Baum

I used it once just for fun :) - Ryo

I actually used to own one and used it in college, until I bought an Osborne computer and Epson RX80 dot matrix printer my senior year. I think I gave my typewriter to my younger sister when she was in college. For some reason I never asked for it back ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

I used to sell them when I worked at Staples. I worked there until 2005ish and still sold them. I used one as a kid too. I'm 31 - Mike VanLare (slayerboy)

I have a '40s-vintage Royal sitting on display in my living room, and I type letters on it from time to time just for the fun of it. It works beautifully, and I find the mechanical feel and sound very satisfying. But then, I'm a bit odd. - सत्याग्रह {Bren}

I got a C in typing class in middle school. (35) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

I have. (32) - Louis Gray

I first learned in high school about office machines and one in particular was the wondrous typewriter, I have not used one in awhile but at the very least I do remember. And really sometimes a simple typewriter can be a great thing, so I have used it but I don't make it a point to use it regularly. - Dream Sessions w Ray

I actually did my college thesis on a typewriter (all 120 pages of it) - that experience was what drove me into computers - never looked back since then. - ian kennedy

I owned a manual typewriter and learned to touch type on it in 7th grade in 1982. My mom may still have it and I don't remember much about it, but I can picture it in my head. It's really fuzzy though, like my memories of Shell Beach, can't put my finger on it... - Adrian Culici

I learnt to type on a typewriter way back in '67 - one of the best things I ever learnt - srsly - I'm still really young -] - Chris Loft

I did a typing course at school. The famous Scheidegger typing course. I was 12 or 13 in those days. So that was around '76/'77. It's probably the best thing I learned at school, because I'm still enjoying what I've learned then. - Ton Zijp

I used to use a typewriter, and I'm 24. - Will Higgins™

Some involved in air traffic in the 90s still used typewriters. - Bernie Goldbach

I have, in the 90's I am 31. Also, I believe the high school office where my mother works still has a couple that they use for adding names to certificates and the like. I will double check this with her tomorrow. - Rachel Lea Fox

I learned how to type on a manual typewriter, but haven't used one since maybe 1986. - Bonnie

i'm 23, used one briefly when growing up not because we didnt have a computer (had some P1 box and a Mac Centris) but because i liked the cool mechanical sounds it made. ;-) - Paul Stamatiou

What's a typewriter? ;-P - Jeff P. Henderson

We were taught to use a typewriter at school - that was actually the only time we ever used a typewriter, for most of us, since computers were already taking over (except perhaps for form filling). We had the typewriter class and a computer class the same year, and the typewriter class did not even help for computer typing because it was on the horrible french key-layout whereas our computers had swiss keyboards - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I have. 29 years old now. Last time was probably 2 years ago to label envelopes (I think printers remain bad at this). - Sajida Khan

I used one many Moons ago but only because my parents had an old one at home. - Kol Tregaskes

I had, I'm 26. It was my mother's, she used it at school. But I remember her using it at work in the late 80's too. - albameccanica - Arianna

I had to type the personal info on my college applications (in 1996) but I got my Mom to help because I was afraid I wouldn't line things up correctly. - Shannon Jiménez

I did, back in the 80's as well. - David Cook

I learned to type using a typewriter during high school (mid 90's). - Kevykev

I saw one once & think i tried it, but it was like 15 years ago or so - immaterial

Yes, up until 1994, I think, I often helped my father type academic papers on our typewriter. I didn't have a computer of my own until early 1996, I believe. Used campus labs from fall of 1995 until about February. - Scott of Two Countries

I used one up until about 1988. It was an IBM Selectric. - DGentry

I'm 23 - I have seen them, but never used for anything. - Rich

I'm 36 and used one. We were tought type writing at school, but that ended in the mid 80's when the school got computers and we had to learn Basic - Martin Liechti from fftogo

i used one in jr high and part of high school in the early 80s before i saved up enough to get a printer for my apple ][e - Imabug

used one till late 90's. I found it kind of cool for "creative writing"... :)) - diego morelli

Wow.. I actually used one in junior high.. I still remember the smell of burning oil! Gee.. that was in the early 80's I think? - Sean

I'm 26 used one until HS. - Amber Spence

I'm 41 I owned one. Used it in HS and college. - Gunny The Fuzzball ™

im 21 and own 3 typewriters - Anthony Feint

I used one in high school typing class, circa 85, that I took as an elective to better learn how to type on the computer keyboards I had for the 4 years previous. My dad used typewriters in his small business until about 89-ish when he switched over to the wordprocessing unit he had used at home for year or so prior. Actually slow for him given he had car phones when they were huge radio units, a pocket TRS-80 in the early 80s ( http://www.trs-80.com/wordpre... ), and such. - Michael W. May

i took it in high school around 1990. that was probably the last time i did - (jeff)isageek

I learned to type on one when i was 11 or so, which was in 1996. It was a very modern one, as it could store documents typed and such. I only used it for that class though. - Tom Ribbens

I'm 36, typing class in HS used electric typewriters as PC's were too expensive at the time. Had IBM "lugables" for computer class :) Teachers in school did not like the printout from dot matrix printers so even though I had a computer at home since about 1981, we still used typewriters throughout school for reports etc. - W. Brant Kesseler

I learned to type before I could hold a pencil. Well, the 2-finger hunt-and-peck method of typing. I'm 38 now... I think I regularly used a typewriter for things until sometime around 1987. - Nine hates realtime.

i did,since i was 9 to my late teens. no computer and a writer's spirit . I'm 31 now, the typewriter belonged to my grandfather, who gave it to me before he died. It's one of my most important possessions. - Alexandre Gamela from twhirl

I taught myself to type on one, so once we got a computer I used to bash the keys really hard. We got our first pc with printer in 1986, but I still used the typewriter for letters and stuff after that til the ribbons ran dry and we couldn't buy replacements - probably around 1990 I think. - Mellissa Doyle

I used to carry around a portable electronic one in my briefcase that I'd take to high school with me every day. - Thomas Hawk

I'm 40. My mom had a typewriter, I used it once or twice just to see what it was like to type on... - Tad, Anti-Immanentizer

I'm 50. Actually took typing in high school. That was mid-70's. - Norma Dennis

I'm 37 and used a typewriter in my middle school typing class. Had a computer at home too though. I feel like I'm on the cusp. - Graham English from iPhone

I have attempted to use a typewriter before. My typing career suffered a major setback when I was kicked out of the typing teachers class on the first day of school. I decided after that that taking typing would not be a good idea. - Alan Simpson

by the way check these out, this picture was taken a month ago or so: http://twitpic.com/7t485 - Alexandre Gamela

I am 30, and used to use it - Shevonne

28 and I used my dads at home for school work when I couldn't get time on the computers at school until we got a computer in 94. The typewriter even had a delete key! - alphaxion

I'll admit it ..... not the age part :) - Charlie Anzman

I've used one. Also used a word processor until 95 or so. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

i learnt to type on one. Used one until 2nd year uni (1991) when we got all cool with computers. - Sue

I still use the old typewriter for post cards and special mailings (USPS) found extra ribbon on ebay. - Tricia

I had one until my third year of college, in 1989 . . . then a Commodore something or other (128?) - William Harryman

I am 43 and I used one up until 1999, which was when I got my first computer. I have it stored away in the basement. Should I ever need one for filling out a form, I'll go down there and drag it upstairs. It's a big heavy machine with a built in word processor. I stocked up on print & correction cartridges awhile back, just in case they stop making/selling them. - April Russo

I'm 28, and I last used a typewriter about 4 years ago. Usually I own one, and now that you've posted this I want to go buy another. Love them! - Lo

23 but my grandma had one, probably is still around, my impressions: the loudest keyboard I've ever used - Dobromir Hadzhiev

I stopped using a typewriter completely in '85 when I got my first PC... with an extra keyboard that allowed it to double as a typewriter! LOL! - Arleen Anderson

used one at college, sometime in the late 80's haven't used one since though - unicomunica

Still use one. We have certain things that just work better in a typewriter. - LLL

I used one until probably 1993 - Steve C

I still have a typewriter. - Morton Fox

I did and we had a mandatory typing class Freshman year of HS. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

I learned to type on one. Around 1989-90. - Derrick

The last time was when I was a kid in the 70's. Then the ZX81 happened... - Andy Bold

at my grandparents. probably mid-80's or so. - SolidSmack

I still have to use a typewriter. It's a monster. IBM Wheelwriter 30 Series II - MicahBear78

I had to take typing in high school. I got a 42. On a 100 point scale. It was definitely not my sport. I'm 44, btw. - Kevin Pedraja

i have! I'm 35. I wish I still had one. - Anna Lynn M.

I have never seen a functional typewriter. I'm 22. - @GarinKilpatrick

We had the opportunity to learn how to type when we were young at school, age 11 I guess. That's how I actually learned typing! - Kris

I've used 'em, even had a junior high typing class which I did horribly at, but surprisingly learned rudimentary skills. Remember having to retype entire pages every time I made an error on a paper that was due the next day. I used to always seem to be miserably sick the nights before papers were due, and miraculously cured the next day when I turned the paper in.. I'm about 43. - motownmutt

through 92. got my first puter in 93. - Matt Soreco

I took typing in 9th grade. Glad I did too. Now can I remember margins? Not like I can in Word... - Mike Lewis

I'm 27 and I used one in elementary school for my reports - Shey

In my senior year of college (1982-1983), I decided to write my undergraduate thesis using nroff and some macros, rather than typing the whole thing on a typewrite. - John E. Bredehoft

I had an electric typewriter when I was in college - but I didn't use it for much more than applications when I started using emacs and a dot matrix printer in 1983. - Bill Sodeman

Does a MOD-40 Teletype count? - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

I learned to touch-type on a manual (non-electric) typewriter in junior high school in 1986. Born in 1973. - Kevin Fox

Related question: when was the last time you used a pencil sharpener? - Paola

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Does Walking or Running Burn More Calories? - http://www.thatsfit.com/2009...

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"An American College of Sports Medicine study from 2004, for example, measured the calories burned running and walking over 1600 meters (around a mile) on a treadmill for 12 men and 12 women. The average calories the men burned running was 124 and 88 calories burned walking. The women burned 105 and 74 calories respectively. That's a 30 percent difference. (The men burned more because they weighed more.) However, running doesn't always burn more calories than walking, and once again, this has to do with efficiency of movement. If you jog at a slow, barely-pick-up-your-feet pace, you'll burn a respectable 8 calories per minute -- but walking at a pace that is so speedy you have to wiggle your hips and swing your arms madly to keep yourself from breaking into a run can burn a massive 15 calories per minute. The so called "cross over" or "gray zone" pace, where walking becomes very strenuous, occurs somewhere at around 4 to 5 miles per hour for most people. So in other words, a 150-pound... more... - Shevonne from Bookmarklet

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I found that walking on a treadmill burned more than all the energy I put into the elliptical. It was a 30-50 cal difference per 30 mins - Lindsey is Fierce!

Also a matter of what you'll do. If I walk a mile a day while doing my daily errands, I'll be much more likely to stick to doing it every day than if I force myself to run for 20 minutes. Researchers are obsessed with efficiency, not compliance. - Wirehead

Definitely a quality vs. quantity argument. Going fast and hard only works if you go you fast and hard repeatedly. Slow and steady still wins the race. It's about consistency, I guess :) - Rahsheen ™

I routinely walk at 4.3 mph. Fast walking for me is about 5 mph. - J. D. Ebberly

I usually burn 100 calories per mile I run I have found... - orionstarr

Either way both are great for you! - orionstarr

Don't worry about the choice.. just get up and get moving. - Sean

At a Stanford run/walk, one of the signs said that for every minute you spend running, you gain two minutes of life. NO idea if this is true. Anyone? Having a lower heart rate...may be more healthy, but if your heart can only beat X times (the theory behind why low-calorie-consumption mice live longer), then the excess heart beats you use during all that aerobic exercise might wipe out... more... - Mitchell Tsai

In the end it's all about how you feel and if you're happy. - Rutger Blom from email

These comments are better than the article... - Lo

"walking at a pace that is so speedy you have to wiggle your hips and swing your arms madly to keep yourself from breaking into a run can burn a massive 15 calories per minute" - that reminds me of the Olympic speed-walking events, like in that Comcast commercial a couple years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Bryan

Well, to be fair to Jim Fixx, he did live 10 years longer than his dad. Every study I've seen seems to indicate that at least a moderate amount of exercise is better for your lifespan than none. - Wirehead

This was just posted at Mental_Floss - if anyone wants a quick background on a few calorie-related issues (I fear to learn how inaccurate my Nike+iPod might be!) http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs... - Rich

Very interesting reading. Thanks for sharing! - Rutger Blom from email

IMHO, trying to count calories and then work out calorie burn is just asking for a brainache. Much easier to say "I gained 1 pound last week, therefore I am eating 500 calories too many". - Wirehead

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It's a girl!!!! 19.5inches, 6lbs 13.8 ounces - name pending!

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Congrats - /Users/genieyclo

'Pending' - is that Irish? - Morgan Haley

Congrats! - Tracy Benham

Outstanding. Good weight too! - Louis Gray

Congratulations! - Judith Walden

Congratulations! Omedetou! - Rick Cogley

ty! we had a last minute glitch with the name - a late entrant is proving more formidable than we imagined so we are having to weigh the two finalists against one another hmmm will it be Oprah Talula Nunez or Madonna Cher Nunez...such tough choices - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Congratulations! - Anika Malone

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Congratulations, indeed! - Steve Lowe

Congratulations!!!! - jamar78

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Congrats! - Barry Wynn

Wonderful! - Mitchell Tsai

nice! congrats! - Nathan Chase

Congratulations! - Trish R

Congratulations man! I'm so happy for you! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Pending is a unique name - Joe Dawson

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More babbies!!! Congrats!!! :-D - Lisa L. Seifert

congratulations, Marco! woohoo!!! - सत्याग्रह {Bren}

Congrats, Marco! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Congrats!!! - David Cook

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Yay! Thats a good, healthy weight too. - DGentry

congrats! - Thomas Hawk

congrats, macro! - Hao Chen

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hey congrats! - (jeff)isageek

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“Cute Coma” induced by ALL PAWS FLAILING! - http://cuteoverload.com/2009...

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oh! look how sweet! - Trish Haley

That's cute. - Tom Landini

Steve Perez as a child. Ahhh.. - Dave - SustainedEuphoria

LOL @ dave - EARL (Born in the USA) from fftogo

such sweetness! - vicster

Awwww... - Mitchell Tsai

OMG such Cuteness!! - martha

Very cute. BUT NOT ME. - Steven Perez

Mr. Perez think way back. Remember when you caused cute comas? Admit it. - Dave - SustainedEuphoria

Tee hee. That's adorable! - Rick Cogley

I've been rendered powerless, you've found my kryptonite and it is cuteness. - Ryan Massie

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Who Can Possibly Govern California? [Mark Leibovich, New York Times - 7/1/09] - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

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The former Mr. Universe has shrunk greatly in political stature, now that he has become ineligible for re-election (thanks to term limits), unpopular (a 33 percent approval rating) and incapable of asserting his will over an unyielding Legislature and ornery electorate. And there is a general recognition that Schwarzenegger’s substantial assets proved no match for the daunting disorder of the state’s politics, something even Schwarzenegger admitted to me recently: “The bottom line is, even me as a celebrity governor — even with that, I can’t penetrate through certain things.” - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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“In a sense, the race to succeed Schwarzenegger is so fascinating because the competing souls of the state are all wrapped up in the candidates,” is how the Los Angeles-based Democratic strategist Bill Carrick put it. “You have the old and the new, the bizarre and the boring. Crisis does tend to bring it all to the fore.” - Mitchell Tsai

The nightmare-as-opportunity theme enables the candidates to show optimism and present themselves as saviors. “Our democracy works best, unfortunately, in a crisis situation,” said one of them, the Republican Steve Poizner, the state’s insurance commissioner and a serial entrepreneur in Silicon Valley. “These windows of opportunity for big structural reform don’t come around that often.” - Mitchell Tsai

Another Republican candidate, Meg Whitman http://topics.nytimes.com/top..., the former eBay C.E.O., presents herself as a parental antidote to chaos. That’s why eBay’s founder, Pierre Omidyar, hired her, she claims. “Pierre said he was looking for adult supervision at eBay,” Whitman said not long ago at a campaign appearance in San Jose. She criticizes Schwarzenegger for trying to “boil the ocean,” for being too ambitious. - Mitchell Tsai

Dependence on income tax was the first thing Dianne Feinstein mentioned when I asked her to assess California’s problems. “In most states, it’s one-third property tax, one-third sales tax and one-third income tax,” Feinstein said. “It’s 55 percent income tax in California. And 45 percent of that comes from the top brackets.” - Mitchell Tsai

But in today’s cratering economy — in which California faces a decline in personal income for the first time since 1938 and unemployment sits at 11.5 percent — the state’s coffers have shriveled up quickly, along with the governor’s popularity. - Mitchell Tsai

California’s leaders also complain about voters’ ability to assert their will directly through the state’s freewheeling system of ballot initiatives. In effect, anybody with money can circumvent the Legislature by putting something to a statewide plebiscite, something that has happened 71 times in the last decade, according to Mark Baldassare, the head of the Public Policy Institute of... more... - Mitchell Tsai

So great is the frustration among the state’s political class that a movement has been building to call a constitutional convention — to tear up the existing 130-year-old document and start over. “This is an effort born of the fact that the state has become ungovernable,” said Jim Wunderman, the president of the Bay Area Council, who is leading the effort. - Mitchell Tsai

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Michael Phelps breaks 100 fly world record at US nationals [Beth Harris, AP @Google - 7/9/09, 25 min ago] - http://www.google.com/hostedn...

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The 14-time Olympic gold medalist swam the two-lap final in 50.22 seconds at the Indiana University Natatorium. He lowered Ian Crocker's mark of 50.40 set at the 2005 world championships in Montreal. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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Michael Phelps broke the world record in the 100-meter butterfly at the U.S. national championships Thursday, giving him ownership of five individual world marks. - Mitchell Tsai

Live Timing of events http://omegatiming.com/livetim... I haven't figured out how to get times for recently run events yet... - Mitchell Tsai

And people say Weed is bad for you. - EARL (Born in the USA)

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2009 Nationals Prelim Report - Day 3 The 2009 ConocoPhillips USA Swimming National Championships and World Championship Trials continued Thursday with prelims of the women’s 100m breaststroke, men’s 100m butterfly, women’s 50m freestyle, men's 50m freestyle and women’s 400m IM. Here are the highlights from each of this morning’s events. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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Nearly 1 in 10 kids are victims of ‘cyber bullying’ [Simple Thoughts, blog.taragana.com - 7/5/09] - http://blog.taragana.com/index...

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...and girls are more likely to be on the receiving end than boys, suggests a new study. According to study co-author Ronald Iannotti, a researcher with the National Institutes of Health, children continue to harass each other through electronic means such as text messages. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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But other forms of bullying, however, remained much more common, such as spreading rumours, turning fellow pupils into outcasts and threatening others through words and violence. - Mitchell Tsai

Experts observed a 2005 national survey that quizzed 7,182 students in grades 6 through 10. Cyber bullying was found to be much less common with eight percent saying others bullied them through computer pictures and messages. Another 6 percent said they got bullying messages through cell phones. - Mitchell Tsai

However, the director of the Frances McClelland Institute for Children said: "What remains needed in this field of study is attention to the reasons that kids bully one another … much of which have to do with bias or discrimination based on how a student looks or acts, their sexuality or gender, their race or religion, or their social class - whether they are perceived as poor." - Mitchell Tsai

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NASA’s new Twitter strategy: Se Habla Espanol; Astro_Jose to tweet bilingually from space [Simple Thoughts, blog.taragana.com - 7/2/09] - http://blog.taragana.com/index...

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Astronaut Jose Hernandez grew up in a migrant farming family and didn't learn English until he was 12. He is scheduled to fly aboard the space shuttle Discovery in August and tweet bilingually from orbit. It will be his first flight. His twitter account is astro_jose http://twitter.com/astro_jose (3,031 followers). He has already started tweeting in both languages while training on the ground. NASA says this is the agency's first Twitter account in Spanish. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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Guess What I Am

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Victorian Visectomy? - Lindsey is Fierce!

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Circumcision machine? - Christopher Harley

No and no. - Christopher Harley

It's a meat grinder - James Fuller

Meat grinder - Anika Malone

And yes, Micah, this one has a patent! - Christopher Harley

Not for grinding meat - Christopher Harley

Sausage stuffer - Anika Malone

Not for meat - Christopher Harley

not for stuffing - Christopher Harley

Juicer - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

pasta maker - Anika Malone

Is it a grinder of some sort? - James Fuller

not for pasta or for juicing - Christopher Harley

Not for grinding per se - Christopher Harley

Whoa... - Mitchell Tsai

garlic press - Anika Malone

Does it do something to tobacco? - Mitch

not for pressing garlic or for pressing at all - Christopher Harley

Not for tobacco - Christopher Harley

Wouldn't want to get a body part anywhere near that thing. - Jack Carlson

aril remover - Anika Malone

Nor would I, Jack. - Christopher Harley

It's and old school paper shredder. - James Fuller

Lemon zester? - Andrew Smith

Aril was new to me. No but it does remove something, Aril is not the object removed. - Christopher Harley

Boiled egg peeler - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Not a paper shredder, James. - Christopher Harley

tenderizer? - The Catz Meow

Not a boiled egg peeler. - Christopher Harley

melon baller? - The Catz Meow

No tenderizing being done. - Christopher Harley

It looks like maybe it pivot a dowel or something back and forth (as opposed to grind or mill something). - Micah Wittman

Not a melon baller. - Christopher Harley

Bean sorter - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

There's turning, Micah. - Christopher Harley

Not for sorting beans, Rob. - Christopher Harley

Pencil sharpener? - The Catz Meow

no - Christopher Harley

carpentry tool? - The Catz Meow

rust remover. - Anika Malone

It's a upside down bottle opener - James Fuller

HINT: Food yes, post harvest yes. - Christopher Harley

corn husker? - The Catz Meow

wheat chaffer. - Anika Malone

Cherry pitter - Geoff Schultz

Corn yes - Christopher Harley

kernel remover - Anika Malone

Cherry no - Christopher Harley

takes the corn off the cob - The Catz Meow

corn cob creamer? - The Catz Meow

Anika Malone DING DING DING DING DING - Christopher Harley

lol - The Catz Meow

yay Anika! - The Catz Meow

Corn Sheller http://www.google.com/patents... - Christopher Harley

Anika won in Anika's mind and mine ;) - Micah Wittman

LOL @TCM and Micah. - Anika Malone

A sheller for the pop corn variety of corn. - Christopher Harley

I'll share my winnings with TCM. - Anika Malone

you just typed faster Anika!!! - The Catz Meow

Corn husker and corn sheller are two different critters - Christopher Harley

And what's funny is that when I saw it first I thought that's what it was because I just watched a mini-doc on corn. Then I saw it in the bigger view and thought meat. - Anika Malone

my last guess was going to be along the lines of a mid evil CBT device - The Catz Meow

lol drool, want one now! - The Catz Meow

Good deal, because you've won a tandem bicycle courtesy of the Schwinn Bicycle Company. - Christopher Harley

King Corn?—no, I don't think that was mini. - Micah Wittman

Schwinn <----- My first bicycle. True story. - Micah Wittman

No, it was some 3 - 5 min. doc on corn run between shows on DiscoveryHD or something. It was interesting. - Anika Malone

Yeah, the corn would have to really solid to make this thing work. We probably think of corn as soft to begin with. - Christopher Harley

The story of corn in 2 seconds ---> *CHOMP* ok, now I need dental floss. - Micah Wittman

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Anika Malone

LOL - Christopher Harley

This was fun! Thanks Mr Harley :) It's past my bedtime lol Nite all! - The Catz Meow

No, that's not it. Let me find it. - Anika Malone

'night Catz. - Micah Wittman

Steampunk pipe? - Mo Kargas

Sleep well Catz - James Fuller

DMing Christopher an option for a future Guess Me. - Micah Wittman

Oops we weren't sub'd to each other. - Micah Wittman

I will, Micah. - Christopher Harley

steampunk showerhead? - Nathan Rein

Archaic torture device - Beau (והאראסי) Liening from iPhone

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Sports Tickets, Concert Tickets, Theatre Tickets - 200% Guarantee [Ticket Solutions] - http://www.ticketsolutions.com/

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Order online or call one of our representatives at 800-477-5285 to learn more about our 200% guarantee and how we can get your tickets to the greatest sporting events and concerts anywhere! The All-Star Game is calling! - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

Marco(aureliusmaximus)

http://yfrog.com/5jifaj Mommy Kim and her 19.5inch 6lb 13oz daughter (name being finalized as we speak!)

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aw - anna

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Hello beautiful ladies! - Aden

They both look great! Congratulations to all. - Louis Gray

Yay! Congrats! (try to steal that stripey blanket from the hospital. they friggen watch those like hawks. I got busted trying to take one when my kid was born 10 years ago. I hope you have better luck. - Morgan Haley

thanks all! morgan we LOVE those stripey blankets - we'll figure something out ; ) - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Congratulation, she's beautiful. - Kim Landwehr

Congratulations! How exciting for you both! - Anne Bouey

AWW New FF Babby! :D :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Congrats, that's WONDERFUL!!! :-D - Anna Haro

FTW! - James

Congrats :) - BeeLing

Congratulations Marco - Keith (aka Tsudohnimh)

Congrats. - Mark Krynsky

Congratulations! - Tim Chemacki

beautiful baby!! - Tricia

Lovely! - Mitchell Tsai

Congrats! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

congrats - Jeff Quinton

congratulations! - Tamara

So beautiful! Congratulations to all of you~ - Karen Kay

Beautiful. Congratulations! - Rutger Blom

Congrats Marco! - Shey

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The Travel John Disposable Urinal - http://www.bookofjoe.com/2009...

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ehhhhhh.....o_O - Live4Emma (L4S) from Bookmarklet

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I had to used something like once. Not fun. - Anika Malone

...for those who can't aim into a bottle. One of the reasons I didn't start climbing "big walls" is that I didn't like the idea of doing the "toilet" thing into a bag. Otherwise it would be fun to climb a big multi-day pitch. - Mitchell Tsai

After you finish a drink, what else is the empty bottle for? - Lo

Kamath (नमः)

There is just too much jealousy in love. Doing it wrong I guess?

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Are you? I see a lot of jealous people. It seems the norm. I'm not a jealous type and people tell me that means I don't care enough. - Anika Malone

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I am so-so. I can be jealous, but for the most part I am probably not. I don't think it is as simple as just jealousy, though. - Michelle Martinez

Love = Trust..... Jealousy + Love = lack of trust and or lack of confidence in oneself. If someone you love is giving your a reason to distrust them, you are in a one-sided relationship. That said, jealousy and envy seem to be part of human nature. - BEX

I get jealous and my girlfriend gets jealous at times. - Mathew™

I don't think being jealous is the problem. It's what you do with that emotion that can lead to trouble. - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

I have to agree with Pea. The emotion isn't the problem. - Ha3rvey

Much too much jealousy IMO... - Mitchell Tsai

I agree Pea, Mathew. It's what you do with it. At least according to my faith, I should learn to let go of clinging which is at the root of anger, jealousy etc. But I haven't been able to very well. A complicated situation doesn't help :). - Kamath (नमः)

Love is an ill-defined word. There's desire, which is usually somewhat (or completely) selfish (and note I don't just mean physical/sexual desire... people have frequently this kind of love for their kids). Nothing wrong with that, but combined with insecurity it can cause jealousy. Then there's truly caring about another's well-being, which is selfless and will never lead to jealousy. What's referred to as "love" is usually a mix of the two, but the ratio can vary wildly. - Lo

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Las Vegas, Nevada - Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...

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In 2006 gambling revenues in the Macau Special Administrative Region in the People's Republic of China surpassed those in Las Vegas, making Macau the largest gambling center in the world. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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When did you get your first grey hair (that's on your head ladies and gentlemen ;-))? When did it all go grey, when did you first get the lovely bald patch? :-)

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Thankfully, no baldness to report, I've had a dash of grey since I was a teenager but no more at the age of 32. My Dad had the horrible bald patch and comb over but my uncle still has a full flock of hair. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

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Grey first in early 50's - still only grey around the edges. No baldness -- Dad is 82 and still has a full head of hair so that is likely my fate as well. - Brian Sullivan

None so far. I know some friends who started getting grays in their 20's - Rodfather

My first gray was at 15. I've got a few more since turning 30 than I did previously.... or I'm noticing them more. - Alix Whitmire ☂

Grey hair since late teens but no bald patch! At the first hint of that I shave off the lot. - Ade

20-21 first noticeable gray. Going bald at 23. Completely salt and pepper except for partial beard that is still brown around 30. - CW™

If I did go grey, I wouldn't know because I dye my hair every two months. - Shevonne

Found my first few grey hairs when I was 11, still have a head full, and no more greys that I can find at 19. - James Fuller

I got my first grey hair in my early thirties. My father and grandmother both went prematureally grey at an early age. It's sometimes sexy as in Anderson Cooper. He's went grey in his 20s I believe and he's damn sexy. :) - Molly

I've always had the odd white hair here and there, but not all gray or gone yet. - Morton Fox

I think I was 25. And they're ok. I've earned every one of them. - Abby Martin

I started noticing gray hairs around 18 or 20. Right now (a decade later) my hair is still mostly brown, with just a few gray hairs here and there. - John

Gray or Grey? - Ade

Ade, depends where you live. In the UK its grey. In the US I believe its gray. - Kol Tregaskes

I have no grey in my hair that I know of, but my beard is grey when I grow it out. That started last year. - Alan Simpson

17 years old. Somewhere on my head. No bald spots (on my head). - MVB

Gray is a color. Grey is a colour. ;) I swap the two depending on my mood - Rodfather

I wish I had bald patches on my back. (all together now: Ewwwww! Gross!) - Morgan Haley

Oh no, not a nice image, Morgan. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Grey hair at 23, Still only in patches. Have had the McDonald's hairline since 13 :-P - Rasmus Lauridsen

not grey, but started getting some white hairs in my beard when i was 26 so i shaved it all off and haven't regrown it since then. my hair suddenly thinned a bit on top when i was 19 and then halted, hasn't gotten any thinner since. my father didn't go grey until he was over 50 and no one in my family has ever gone bald. - Dead Silence

Finally got my first grey hair a few months ago. I'm 36. I think I see a 2nd, but it may be too much to hope. - Anika Malone from fftogo

Got my first one at 24. Still only have a few, the the rest is still thick and luxurious. - Alex Scrivener

The day I got married. :) ( I expect to get whapped for that one) - Steve C

Steve!! For shame!! :D - Alix Whitmire ☂

Thanks for defending me Alix! mine was around 18. i've noticed a lot more since being married to Steve C though. - Janine

GrEy is in UK English, GrAy is in US English! For me Grey is the correct one. As regards the question, I have a few silverish hairs on the sides, which started coming out at 28. They haven't increased drastically...yet! - Rowena Scicluna

Started going bald at 16. No gray up there because they've mostly emigrated. - Great Scott!

34 and got my first grey hair in the beard this year. Doesn´t matter because I´m blonde with red beard anyway;) No bald spot (although I´m sure a bit higher in the front) or grey hair on the head yet. (Which is strange since my younger brother and almost every other male relative are bald). Not at all freaked out about losing it or going grey though. - Thomas Bøhm

I think when I was 13 or something. Pretty young! My mom was cutting my hair and said "Wow, you've got a couple gray hairs over here. I'd pull them out, but seven more would come to its funeral." - Jordan Hofker

Anecdotal, but, my twin's hair is balding and going white/clear on the edges. I'm still fine. - Clark the Kittensquisher

When I was about 7 or so. As long as I can remember I've had a small patch on the crown of my head that has been white. As to the rest of my head, sometime in my 20's. I'm starting to look rather frosted now that I'm in my late 30's. And I like it. Looking forward to the day when I'm completely white. - LLL

Age 17-18. One of my college classmates was almost completely white by senior year. At age 25-30, he looked a distinguished 40-50. And at 45, he now looks 60s. Probably helped his career. - Mitchell Tsai

I got my first grey hair when I was 40 - still only have a few more than ten years later :) Lucky I guess - martha

First grey hair when I was 27. I stopped dying my hair when I saw it, because it was bright white (the kind I'd hoped I'd get). - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I was about 17. - Akiva Moskovitz

What Gray hair? - Brent - Mugwumps R Us

Got my first grey hair a couple months ago. It was twice as thick as my normal hair, too. My beard looks gray in my profile pic, but really it's blonde. Honest! - Sir Slippy of Slippington

I have some silver in the hairs just above my ears. :-) - Ladybug Heather

I actually don't have grey hair, mine are white. I started out with two, about 15 years ago, at 25, I proceeded to pluck them, mount them on black matte, frame them and gave them to my Mother. I prefer to call my white hair, wisdom.... lol - The Catz Meow

Early twenties, if that late. It may be all grey, now; I dye it too often to be certain. I'm quite offended, as I haven't yet reached my 40th birthday. - MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)

Crap I just found one on my chin. Boo! - Rodfather

Still don't have any, which is sort of disappointing - RAPatton from iPhone

Bindu Reddy

I realized I don't know the answer to this - Why is it that healthy foods are the ones that don't taste good and why are healthy practices / exercises hard to follow. Why does it seem like short term pleasure and long term benefit are mutually exclusive?

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because the world sucks and life sucks and nothing will ever be good for us and enjoyable at the same time. so let's go get some slurpees and twinkees and dance until we pass out! - Morgan Haley

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I'd agree with this except that a glass of red wine for dinner every night is good for you and tastes good. - Alex Scoble

Except a bottle of wine tastes better and makes you feel better. At least until the next morning. - Cristo

Because pre-historic humans didn't have HFCS? - Tracy

Glass of red wine is so tempting but I decided that I am not going to drink alcohol for a month or so... *Sigh* - Bindu Reddy

What is HFCS? - Bindu Reddy

Yeah but two bottles of red wine tastes good as well and is not so good for you. - Brian Sullivan

High Fructose Corn Syrup - Tracy

Bindu had a period on friendfeed where every other post was about alcohol. ;) - Cristo

Only if everything tasted like smurf berries and bacon - Rodfather

We've been evolutionarily programed to conserve energy as much as possible and seek out calorically dense foods -- the Pleistocene environment wasn't exactly the modern, post-industrial world. Our ancient ancestors didn't have to worry about exercise and cheeseburgers. - Christopher Carr

Cristopher so the answer is that our environment has changed more rapidly than our genes can catch up and one day 1000s of years later we will love green tea and romaine hearts - Bindu Reddy

Yep. - Christopher Carr

Our behavioral routines/modules were not optimized for our current environment. Inclinations well suited to earlier environments are often maladaptive in our current context. - Christopher Carr

Cristo - yes that is the reason for staying off alcohol for a month... The good news is I am done with 2 weeks of this craziness. - Bindu Reddy

Agree with Christopher, but adding: You're not eating the right health foods. :) I love dried fruit and fruit leather, plus they have vitamins and fiber. Special K cereal is deceptively good, as are all flavors of Cheerios. Now I realize I've been slurping Hi-C fruit punch and gummy strawberries... - Heather

Well my cereal of choice is Honeynut Cheerios which I suspect is pretty bad :) - Bindu Reddy

couple things: most "not healthy" foods use added fats and sugars to 'lure you' since these are rare in nature, bodies respond favorably to them. add lots and you get 'good eats!' second, a lot of "health food" has wacky mixes of un-natural combinations of products to 'boost' vitamins, etc. your mouth hates this stupid stuff. finally, if you stick to truely natural, fresh foods along with select simple carbs for baking, etc. i bet you'll find your food is much more enjoyable as well as good for you! - MikeAmundsen

Not sure about the green tea and romaine hearts, though -- an inclination to consume such things would have to result in greater reproductive success as compared to those without such inclinations. One can have lots of kids before dying of diabetes. - Christopher Carr

And I think in 1000 years (assuming our species still exists in some form) we will have completely seized control of evolutionary processes. ...if we haven't all uploaded to simulations being run on Matrioshka Brains by then... - Christopher Carr

I imagine that marketing plays a role in skewing perceptions, both of what tastes good and what is good for us. Some very unhealthy things are also among the most heavily advertised food items. - John

Culture can to some degree override the *stuff your gut with sugars and fats as much as you can, whenever you can* biological program. Japan is a (decreasingly) good example... - Christopher Carr

If you presume that healthy people have healthy kids who are better able to reproduce than that prob. works out to be true. You are right though that as long as long term benefits don't have a bad effect on reproduction we may not evolve to like these "healthy" foods. I guess before uploading any simulations I would rather the human race simply figure out how to make healthy foods tasty. I am pretty sure that is not a terribly difficult problem - Bindu Reddy

I think most healthy foods are pretty tasty, especially in the hands of a good cook. (I love cooked broccoli and raw spinach, for example.) But they don't give the body's pleasure senses the same rush. - John

Sugars and fats are (were) rare foods, and as a species we've the ability to enjoy more common food stuffs -- vegetables and leaner meats. Our ancestors would have wasted lots of energy looking for honey, fatty meats, and really ripe fruits, while ignoring other, easier to acquire food-stuffs. - Christopher Carr

John: Yeah, sugars and fats give big dopamine rewards. When you're not sure how you're going to get your next meal, it makes sense that there would be a powerful incentive to consume high-calorie foods in the rare instances that they are available. The problem is that our environment is now saturated with sugar and fat. - Christopher Carr

As for making healthier foods more rewarding, I'm sure we'll be able to hack our dopamine system with implants and such in the not-too-distant future -- wireheading from enlightened self-interest. - Christopher Carr

Ok people. try to focus on what's important! Red wine is all fine and good, but I want to go get some Twinkies! Who's with me? Let's gooooooooooo! *runs out of the room, fist in the air* - Morgan Haley

It's your inner caveman...in the survival of the fittest, those that managed to eat enough to stay alive and breed got to be the progenitors of the human race. We evolved a sense of taste as a result of that. The stuff the caveman needs (mostly high-energy foods, but the cravings apply for every chemical in your body, even the metals used to generate electric currents in the brain) tastes good, so when he finds it, he'll eat it. If it's bland, he won't bother unless he's desperate. - Sir Slippy of Slippington

In caveman days one of the first fast food stands was gyros. They also invented french fries and put them in the gyros. This is why so many people like to eat these today. - Cristo

There's no french fries in gyros! By the way, I think that Chris means "gyros pita" because gyros is the meat. - Alex Scoble

If you dipped healthy foods in crack cocaine, that would probably successfully reprogram your dopaminergic reward circuit. - Victor Ganata

If unhealthy foods tend to kill you 'early', as in your 40s or 50s, I'm not sure that would have that much evolutionary selection pressure; you would have likely already have reproduced by that point. - Andrew C

Yeah, unless it kills you before puberty, it's probably not going to exert much selective pressure, but we're apparently trying very hard to kill kids with so-called food these days. - Victor Ganata

Good point, Victor. Type 2 diabetes is alarmingly on the rise in children and adolescents. - Christopher Carr

Alex, in Greece and France, it's quite common to put french fries in a gyro. The gyro is a sandwich, which has meat in it and is surrounded by bread. Try the stands late at night in the Latin Quarter to see what I mean. This was actually one of the first stands in 50,000 BC. - Cristo

Two points: First, if you consider that most people in past days did a LOT more physical activity than we do today, you start to realize that they had a lot more room for sugar and fat and stuff than we do in our presently inactive day. Second, it's because the large food manufacturing influences have caused us to be unable to deal with stuff that's not loaded with super-rewarding components like MSG, salt, sugar, etc. After 18 years of not having soda, I can't understand why people drink that crap. - Wirehead

To me it's more mixed. I can tell my palate gets accustomed to sugar, pasta, etc. and vice-versa, a well made vegetable stew or a tasty tart salad will get me going in another direction. There's this complex relationship I think between our body and our mind- sometimes our mind wants the more subtle, complex foods, and our body is happiest with the lightweight, salty or mildly sweet... more... - anna

I know I'm always evangelizing this book- Jungle Effect- but she makes an interesting point about 2 things (that I can remember)- slow-releasing carbs, and how it feels when you eat, and the few hours after, esp. in response to mood swings. And depression and mood control in relationship to the fast-metabolizing foods. Anyways, it really struck a note with me. When you're sad/depressed,... more... - anna

Morgan, LOL :)) - Bindu Reddy

Victor completely agree with the principle behind the crack cocaine idea... Mix something addictive but with fewer side effects with something healthy and soon you will have a healthy snack - Bindu Reddy

So if you're eating something and it's good for you but doesn't taste good... it's not that it's healthy, it's that it was badly prepared - anna

True. After marrying an Indian woman, I've come to the realization that they just don't know how to make veggies taste good in America. - Wirehead

Part of the problem is that extremes in either direction are an acquired taste. If you are not liking the healthy stuff, it's most likely because you have been consuming the unhealthy stuff so long. Personally, I don't like anything sugar loaded, even natural sugars found in things like apples and 100% fruit juice. But this is because I weened myself almost completely off sweets about... more... - April Russo

Easy to eat lots of cool foods if you exercise a lot & can eat 3,000 calories a day. Most nutrition stuff you read is just total bunk. Doctors don't even get 1 class in nutrition in 7-10 yrs medical training (unless they go out of their way to get a Nutrition degree) - first told to me when I taught MCAT for KAPLAN by a lady teacher with a doctorate in Nutrition. Four food groups - done... more... - Mitchell Tsai

I try to eat what my body craves. Usually after a McDonalds sandwich, I'm craving fruit. I find that my cravings depend on my exercise level. I crave more junk food when doing little exercise. With some exercise, my appetite drops. Next I crave fruit & juice. With a little more exercise, I crave pasta. Finally with a lot of exercise, I crave meat & potatoes. Interestingly, I rarely crave chocolate (which is often the #1 craving for women). - Mitchell Tsai

*points to "The Omnivore's Dilemma"* - Ha3rvey

Ha3rvey: The Omnivore's Dilemma was a good read. Have you read "Fast-Food Nation" and the older 1930s(?) book (forgot the title) which outed the "sausage" industry? - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell: I haven't read Fast Food Nation yet, but I need to check it out. I've been on a "philosophy of food" kick lately, though. In the last few months, I've read "The Man Who Ate Everything", "It Must've Been Something I Ate", and re-read "On Food and Cooking". - Ha3rvey

Mitchell, I think you're thinking of Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle"? Ha3rvey, FFN is great. Are you reading the old or new editions of "On Food and Cooking"? - Andrew C

Andrew C: Mine is the first edition paperback. I think I bought it while I was in culinary school. I should add that I recently bought "Food For 50" and "Hidden Kitchens", too. Gah, I am such a food geek. - Ha3rvey

Harvey, read Jungle Effect and tell me what you think! Mitchell- big diff between "what's healthy for you" and "what's a craving" but I agree with you totally re: the weird diet and nutrition fads in the US, the "single solution" idea that is really a no-go, and other overly simplistic solutions. I have to read Omnivore's Dilemma. I've been skirting around it for a year now. - anna

Mitchell- kind of an old dieting trick, but in regard to your point on cravings, try drinking water, waiting 20 minutes, and then seeing what you crave. - anna

AJ Batac

Black Man Fights off 3 White Supremacists in BC - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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"Jay Phillips was attacked Friday in the parking lot of a fast-food restaurant by three young men in Courtney, British Columbia. He said a truckload of men drove by and started shouting racial epithets. "We're going to kill you, we're going to lynch you — really vile stuff." - AJ Batac from Bookmarklet

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Fuckers - Shevonne

Cowards. - AJ Batac

What are the concealed carry laws in BC? - Dave Roth

so not cool. - vijay

Concealed asshat is available everywhere unfortunately. At least the ladies at the end were nice. Who the heck is filming anyway, drop your camera and stop the fight or stick up for outnumbered guy. - Steve C

bunch of pussies. 3 against one? "supremacist" my ass. - vijay

Poor guy. I hope those 3 guys go to jail. - AJ Batac

Pff, I'm sitting here totally f#ed up after watching. Hate such guys. Hope they caught them. - Ton Zijp

Fucking cowards. - Timothy Griffin

http://www.cbc.ca/canada... -- they were arrested and charged with assault. The hate crime part is still under investigation. - Brian Sullivan

The guy's got my respect. He wouldn't cower. Those 3 guys...ignorance epitomized. - Kamath (नमः)

Neanderthals (or even below) +1 vijay - Thomas Bøhm

Best quote from the article was "I thought it happened in the States." Next you'll be telling me it only happens in the South, right? - Daniel J. Pritchett

Second best was "...his background in mixed martial arts made him more than a match for his attackers" which reminded me of this slightly less creepy video about intolerance of a different stripe: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Daniel J. Pritchett

He's the man. I fucking can't stand haters. All they want is suffering. Jay showed that we can stand up to them. - Parvez Halim

Makes your blood boil. - Ahsan Ali

scumbags! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Most people can't fight worth crap. These three guys are pathetic. - Mitchell Tsai

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Apparent B.C. hate crime leads to 3 arrests [CBC News - 7/7/09] - http://www.cbc.ca/canada...

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Sad. When I was younger, once people threw stuff at my car because I was Asian. - Mitchell Tsai

Kamilah Gill

Licorice Ice Cream. Yes. If I ever find some like this, I'll post about it and tell you guys. Any licorice lovers already found some and had some before? - http://www.roadfood.com/Forums...

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icky poo!! - BEX

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BLACK ice cream. - Kamilah Gill

ew. - mjc

I may have to settle on licorice popcorn from Not Just Popcorn in the near term. I'll post that, too, if I get it. Licorice ice cream is a rare treat! When I do finally find it one day, I'm gonna pounce on it. - Kamilah Gill

That ice cream is beautiful - Lindsey is Fierce!

Isn't it, though! I wish I could find the original source of the photo (well actually I have that part, (Larry Crowe/Associated Press), but that doesn't tell me what I need to know). Where is that ice cream being made? - Kamilah Gill

I found it here with an image credit http://www.usatoday.com/travel... - Lindsey is Fierce!

I've had some from cold stone creamery once - JSNFLMNG from iPod

Thanks, Lindsey. I found the same credit somewhere else, too. - Kamilah Gill

JSN, I saw that mentioned somewhere. I wonder if it was a seasonal flavor for Halloween or something. How was the taste? - Kamilah Gill

Maybe you can e-mail Larry Crowe? What are everyone's favorite ice cream places? In the US, I like Cones in NYC and Al Gelato in Los Angeles. My fav is a little place in Pisa, Italy, on the left side after you cross the bridge to the Leaning Tower. - Mitchell Tsai

Gelato Da Vinci is our most special place in Indianapolis, in my opinion. I'm pretty sure Harold would vote for Oberweis. They're good, too, but their chocolate chunks are gritty, and my favorite flavor is mint chocolate chip. Their Butter Brickle is really good, though. - Kamilah Gill

You guys must be mostly US west coasters. You all seem wide awake. I'm pooped. It's past my bedtime. I'll talk to all of you tomorrow - Kamilah Gill

Kamilah - You can buy it online here: http://www.icecreamsource.com/Black-L... Chocolate Shoppe brand is out of Wisconsin, so maybe a road trip/vacation is in order. This is from the company's website: http://www.chocolateshoppeicecream.com/flavor... - Katy S

Thanks, Katy :) I saw those brands on a similar website. - Kamilah Gill

Victor Ganata

Another reason why I'm glad I don't live on the west side.

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I don't even know what this references. I'm just glad I don't live over there any more. - Anika Malone

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Massive Power Outage Hits West Los Angeles http://cbs2.com/local... - Victor Ganata

Oh. Nothing's changed. When we lived in Santa Monica 11 years ago, the same thing happened. That summer we had power outages 2 - 3 times a week. - Anika Malone

I used APS power supplies at home in Beverly Hills (1997-2002) because the power brownouts were so bad. - Mitchell Tsai

LOL, Anika - Victor Ganata

And this: Brush fire near Getty Center 90% contained; Sepulveda Boulevard closed http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow... The 405 must be a parking lot. - Victor Ganata

sean percival

Mike Brodie’s Glimpses of the Under-Underclass - http://coilhouse.net/2009...

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Nice picture! - Mitchell Tsai

wow, it's awesome! - Ted GUO

Mitchell Tsai

The Eskimo Nebula from Hubble [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 5/3/09] - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod...

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In 1787, astronomer William Herschel discovered the Eskimo Nebula. From the ground, NGC 2392 resembles a person's head surrounded by a parka hood. In 2000, the Hubble Space Telescope imaged the Eskimo Nebula. From space, the nebula displays gas clouds so complex they are not fully understood. The Eskimo Nebula is clearly a planetary nebula, and the gas seen above composed the outer layers of a Sun-like star only 10,000 years ago. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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The inner filaments visible above are being ejected by strong wind of particles from the central star. The outer disk contains unusual light-year long orange filaments. The Eskimo Nebula spans about 1/3 of a light year and lies in our Milky Way Galaxy, about 3,000 light years distant, toward the constellation of the Twins (Gemini). - Mitchell Tsai

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I love APOD, one of my fav websites. - Steve

Yeah. APOD is awesome. I love the Hubble telescope. - Mitchell Tsai

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Saharan Starry Night [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 6/27/09] - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod...

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Tassili National Park http://whc.unesco.org/en..., in the heart of the Sahara desert in southern Algeria. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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This panoramic image of a starry night looks across a dry, desolate landscape. Rising above eroded sandstone cliffs, the celestial menagerie of constellations includes Draco the Dragon, Cygnus the Swan, Aquila the Eagle, and Scorpius the Scorpion. Ruling planet Jupiter shines through clouds very close to the horizon near picture center, while star clouds of the Milky Way arc through... more... - Mitchell Tsai

[1515x600 with constellations marked] http://apod.nasa.gov/apod... [1515x600 without markings] http://apod.nasa.gov/apod... - Mitchell Tsai

Have you used Google SkyMap on an Android phone? It shows the constellations as you hold the phone out towards the sky. - Hayes Haugen

Nope. Sounds cool... - Mitchell Tsai

Cheesy video: http://www.google.com/sky... but using in real life is amazing. - Hayes Haugen

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Carina Nebula Panorama from Hubble [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 5/24/09] - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod...

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In one of the brightest parts of Milky Way lies a nebula where some of the oddest things occur. NGC 3372, known as the Great Nebula in Carina, is home to massive stars and changing nebulas. Eta Carinae, the most energetic star in the nebula, was one of the brightest stars in the sky in the 1830s, but then faded dramatically. The Keyhole Nebula, visible left of center, houses several of the most massive stars known and has also changed its appearance. The entire Carina Nebula spans over 300 light years and lies about 7,500 light-years away in the constellation of Carina. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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Pictured above is the most detailed image of the Carina Nebula ever taken. The controlled color image is a composite of 48 high-resolution frames taken by the Hubble Space Telescope two years ago. Wide-field annotated and zoomable image versions are also available. - Mitchell Tsai

Brilliant wallpaper... Though I think NASA is reusing their pics :) - Frankie Warren

I'm happy to see them reused, since I missed them the first time... :-) - Mitchell Tsai

I agree!! :) but just in case: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod... :P - Frankie Warren from IM

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Noctilucent Clouds Over Germany [APOD: Astronomy Picture of the Day - 6/24/09] - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod...

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Sometimes it's night on the ground but day in the air. As the Earth rotates to eclipse the Sun, sunset rises up from the ground. Therefore, at sunset on the ground, sunlight still shines on clouds above. Under usual circumstances, a pretty sunset might be visible, but unusual noctilucent clouds float so high up they can be seen well after dark. Pictured above last week, a network of noctilucent clouds cast an eerie white glow after dusk, beyond a local field near Potsdam, Germany. Although noctilucent clouds are thought to be composed of small ice-coated particles, much remains unknown about them. Satellites launched to help study these clouds include Sweden's Odin and NASA's AIM. Recent evidence indicates that at least some noctilucent clouds result from freezing water exhaust from Space Shuttles. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet

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One of the coolest skies I saw was an underlit sky at sunset...which looked like a golden brown pirate map from a 1950s movie with lighted trails going from city to city. - Mitchell Tsai

Love this one a lot! - Lisa L. Seifert

There are a lot of beautiful views traveling around the world. Sometimes I think a painting looks really artificial & the colors are strange...then years later I see the same colors in some corner of the world, and I go wow!...the painting really was good. Like the ghostly sea creatures in the Baltimore Aquarium, which looks so plasticy that they seem like Digital-Graphic creations. - Mitchell Tsai

What's the current consensus on the origin of these types of clouds? Last I heard, they were a harbinger of climate change. - Victor Ganata

No idea... - Mitchell Tsai

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