Great. Now we can't hide your Twitter updates without also hiding your FF updates. There's a trade-off for everything! :-) - Josh Bancroft
I gotta get an invite /code to ping.fm. Anyone have any? Let me know at evanstj (at) gmail. - Tim via Alert Thingy
@Tim - Tell them to use beta code "pingyoulater" so they can get in on the beta action! - Spinn
Josh, I don't think you understand - I've completely removed my Twitter account link from here to keep from reposting the same stuff unnecessarily. This makes things better for everyone, not worse. Ping.fm is becoming an indispensable "native updates" tool. If you use both Twitter and FriendFeed, you need to use Ping.fm to post the same thing to both places (and then, potentially remove Twitter from FriendFeed). - l0ckergn0me
Can I ask sort of a dumb question as I try to to unify my online world? I can see how ping.fm will help me send the same message to various networks, but how are most of you then reading all the responses afterwards? Aren't we stuck having to go to six different networks to read all the various and separate responses? - Neil Kramer
I've been waiting for this as well. Awesome! - Joanmarie
Chris, I understand what ping.fm does, and what you're doing. Partly, I'm giving you a hard time. And partly, I'm making the argument that Twitter is just as good a "native updates" tool - a place to write - as ping.fm. This is why I love FriendFeed - I don't have to care, and be on the same tool, to get updates. Let us know how it goes! - Josh Bancroft
Neil, I don't think that's a dumb question -- mainly because I've been asking it myself lately. :-) Maybe we need a reverse ping.fm to get all of those updates in one place. I've considered using friendfeed to make a bunch of "imaginary friends" to add their services, but that will take a long time. So.... I dunno.... It is an issue. - Joanmarie
Thanks! I just did the same. The other thing I just did was to remove Tumblr from Ping.fm -- I'm going to use Tumblr primarily for images, video and audio and put them and an occasional text post there directly. So far everything is making it across as I want it to Facebook too. I have the Ping.fm and Tumblr apps installed there. It was a bit wacko figuring out how to glue everything together correctly - and be able to do it from my iPhone. Swurl can have it all however it gets there. Now -- about WordPress :). - Jeff Evans
i had already removed twitter from ff - ping.fm rocks! - Dieter Schwarz
What web page or app (for OS X, Ubuntu, & Windoze) reads all I'm following on Twitter, FF and indenti.ca ? Facebook I can do direct. - Jeff Evans
Agree ... but haven't figured out a good SIMPLE way to reply to a "tweet" using ping.fm ... FF comments stay "in house" - Christopher Perry
Not bad reply tweet in friendfeed,twitter is also a social web service. - Chris Qie
Thank gawd someone finally sees the light - Steven Hodson
I'm trying the same thing, but now I have to browse my microblog sites (twitter, pownce, identi.ca) sites manually in order to see replies. Unless I take the time to bring in all my friends to FF. - Bill Bittner
My name is Bwana, and I approve this message - Bwana McCall
I didn't add FriendFeed to Ping.FM, only Twitter. I guess it is the reverse situation, but works. - David Risley
Here's what I need: Fast, works on existing directories (no iPhoto style import), easy to delete photos I don't want, simple color correction + cropping, and very fast. Very nice to have would be the ability to upload to Smugmug or Google, basic video stuff (time crop), video re-encoding (my camera saves videos as mjpeg for some reason). - Paul Buchheit
Aperture is the primary professional, and most excellent application for OSX. It is worth the money, it is not iPhoto. It is easy to use, and you are likely to not want to use anything else. - Steve Pribut
I don't need anything fancy, just fast and able to handle a good number of photos. Picasa is pretty close -- I wish they would just make a Mac version (and improve the color correction and video abilities). - Paul Buchheit
I only know of, aperture, lightroom, photon & the apps that comes with phanfare.com, flickr & smugmug - Zee from WeDoCreative
Aperture is really cool because you can make batch changes to a set of photos, make branches, and undo across restarts, among other things. It requires importing though, which sounds like you wouldn't want. - Chris White
Closest to meeting all of your requirements used to be iView. Not sure if that's still true. I bailed on it after Microsoft bought it and renamed it Expression Media. http://www.microsoft.com/expre.... I use Aperture now. - Jack Baty
Files can remain in the directory in which they reside. They do not have to be imported into the library, although that makes it easier for backup. A free trial might is available at: http://www.apple.com/aperture/... . It more than adequately meets your criteria for photos, but does not deal with video, which it will back up to your chosen directory. You can readily move them, put them on an external HD, etc. Lightroom is an alternative. - Steve Pribut
I switch to my Windows machine and use Picasa for photos. - Amit Patel
The problem with a lot of these photo organizers is that they want to own your world, but that's not what I want. I'm going to upload the photos to one or two places, copy them to other computers, etc. Having them stuck in some weird system on one computer is not ok. That's why working with the actual filesystem directory structure is important. - Paul Buchheit
Why not just use the Leopard file system + Preview? Is it because of speed? Preview supports cropping and color correction. The new finder features, like coverflow and pressing the spacebar for a preview are handy too. I put the Picasa Uploader in my dock so I can easily upload photos, although I wish Picasa would accept images dragged onto the dock icon. - Chris White
how about using expandrive and hosting all your photos on on a separate server and then using one of the many photo editors to edit them on your desktop? - Zee from WeDoCreative
I'll be interested to know what you settle on. - Bruce Lewis
Chris, I don't have Leopard -- can you delete from inside of Preview? - Paul Buchheit
I don't think you can delete from the app called Preview, but I only use that for cropping and color correction. Coverflow, which lets you flip through your images does let you delete via Command-Delete. The default app for images is Preview, so if you want to crop / color correct, just double-click. Leopard is suppose to be faster for image display in the Finder, although I haven't seen any speed comparisons. - Chris White
Jaiku is always fast for me but you raise a great point about 'track'. That is the single most underrated and underused feature of Twitter. Well, apart from the 'community'. - Andy C
For me, Twitter is perfect for what it's supposed to be. Save for the server issues, of course. - Spinn
its July 4th...grab a couple beers and your family and go outside...enjoy your life, everybody is out now. - Pokai
I thought I was the only one turned off by Plurk's UI. I can't stand their Karma system either. - Gerard Barberi via twhirl
I don't need Pownce, I don't like Plurk, Identi.ca doesn't offer me anything I need. I'm more than content with Friendfeed. - tsudohnimh
My issues: Pownce has no conversation, Plurk has no one I know, Idecti.ca = useless and what is Jaiku? :) - FF or Twitter plz - Tony
Pownce's best feature is the conversation... which makes the fact that it just doesn't load so much sadder. Aside from FriendFeed, it's my favorite service and it is just broken. - Andrew Burd
Twiter is what it is and does what it does and we like it that way. Why so hard for people to understand? - Andrew Feinberg
Twitter's SMS is absolutely vital feature. There's no real replacement for Twitter at this time.. - Jiri Fencl
again...I agree, Robert...Twitter is what emergency management professionals will use to spread the word quickly about natural and man-made disasters. You're China earthquake post was the cat's meow! - Bruce Curley
How do you track? I used to be able to do it with Jabber IM/Google Talk, but it doesn't work for me anymore. - Bjorn Tipling
are people getting spam after joining identi.ca? i just got 3 spam emails direct to my email account....i just sent an email to the admin - Pokai
Ping.FM Robert all the kids are doing it :) - Fred Grott
I love Friendfeed, but want SMS texts. Please. Maybe I could write something to pull FriendFeed posts into a twitter account. - David Sim
I use Ping.FM whenever I post. It's really very nice. So far I haven't experienced any negative issues. - Niall Connellan
Duncan: what's funny is even though Twitter is regularly down I'm still getting 100x more messages on Twitter than any of the other services. - Robert Scoble
Identi.ca has no replies or track, Twitter didn't have them either for a long time - Bob Ngu via twhirl
Scoble, I know. The magic ingredient still remains community. It is changing though, I don't have hard proof but I know Twitter is quieter now than it was 3 months ago, for me at least - Duncan Riley
Duncan: it's not quieter for me. I'm still seeing a new tweet almost every second. - Robert Scoble
Twitter, even with all it's downtime will still be the microblog service of choice. As we say in Mexico: "El que pega primero, pega dos veces." The rest are just copies. - Michel Bechelani via twhirl
Scoble, but you're also following more people than just about anyone as well. Maybe it's just in particular groups, but where as I might have seen 20 tweets a minute, today I see 2-5. - Duncan Riley
Twitter is still the best, even when taking stability into the equation. The UI is the key, plus the featureset - Cait
Duncan: I'm noticing that lots of people have changed their behavior over past three-five weeks. But in aggregate the users are still on Twitter. The people I like to talk with most (like you) are here on FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
@duncanriley really? I'm surprised, I've seen more Twitter action since it's been really unstable. Are you taking your timezone change into account? - Cait
yup... plurk's ui is too noisy and slow - ming yeow
I'm really getting into Utterz. Not as a new social network but as a way to post a variety of content quickly and easily and redistribute it to other sites. Just realized when I saw this item that one Utterz post can contain multiple content types, like picture and audio. FF takes in the RSS and displays them very nicely http://friendfeed.com/e/8e6f99... - Kevin Shannon
It's all about the quick and easy communication from literally anywhere. Device updates on Twitter is what got me hooked. - Matt Horton
Ok guys, aren't you fed up? over 50% of your gibberish (excuse my lame english) is around twitter, friendfeed, etc... You use the same tools to talk about them. You aren't really creating anything new. Are you? - Guillaume
Robert have you looked at Kwippy yet? - Steven Hodson
For me it's mostly Twitter + FF, also checking out ping.fm + swurl but i have a strong feeling i'll be on FF for very long. Compared to portals, start pages, readers and newer stuff like Feedly, FF is actually becoming a fun useful and addictive zone. - Majento (Sharon Rudich)
I use a combination of SocialThing! and FriendFeed. FriendFeed has more of a breadth, but SocialThing! shows me a load of Facebook activity such as photo uploads that FriendFeed doesn't, and also keeps track of everybody, not just the people on FriendFeed or ones I have manually set up as imaginary friends. Neither gives me exactly what I want currently. - Richard Peat
are you going to disclose the amount? :) - Timo Heuer
Vezquex my blog is listed twice? One may be a twitter stream. To my knowledge it's only listed once. - Jeremiah Owyang
Timo I really don't think that person was serious. I asked for enough for me to not work for a few years - Jeremiah Owyang
Your blog does seem to be listed twice in your profile (FF that is) - Brian Sullivan
It was listed twice, I'm not sure how that happened, I removed the dupe. Thanks for letting me know. - Jeremiah Owyang
take the money and run, their foolish mistake if they don't include you in the deal - clarke
I'm pretty sure you could sell the blog, and then start an online show/podcast and be living pretty damn well. - Ben Parr
Blogs are personal, so what are you selling ?? your past content or throwing your readers under the bus ?? - Peter Dawson
Peter, I think he just wants my domain. Quite frankly, the terms were not clear. I'd just start another blog, readers would come. (this is already my second URL) - Jeremiah Owyang
that's weird. ask me if he'll buy interactiveartists.com - Ryan
Jeremy, only the domian - must be some SEO /SEM strategy :)- sale sale . as high as they will go. but make sure that you get 30day handover period to notify your userland :)- yeah take their money and run .. LOL - Peter Dawson
Weird, you are the blog - if they take it over, what are they going to do with it? - Marshall Sponder
There's a lot more women over on Plurk, at least looking at the people who are adding me lately. - Robert Scoble
Maybe it's the thought of being tracked everywhere online, not sure. Maybe it's the kind of conversations that go on here. Maybe it's not the case at all? - jjprojects
because the import sources are limited... where's my Twitter import? @robertscoble Plurk has better importing - Cait
Robert, I agree, there are far more wormen on Plurk. I've been using it quite a lot in a last couple of weeks, and that is definitely the case. I saw your question there about that, hence my question here really. Twitter is about 50/50 I think, well for me anyway. - jjprojects
We're here. But maybe we just wait to comment until there's something worth commenting on... <heh> - Linda Mills
yes, not a 50/50 mix, but definitely more. It's a more enabling platform for all people to be heard - Duncan Riley
Yes, there is something unsettling about the tracking; that's why I rarely post on BrightKite. But I've imported most of my twitter feeds here (a la Dave Slusher), and I'm loving the one-place reading and listening (to those who post audio files here). - Linda Mills
I'm here. I'll try harder to make my presence known :). - Annie Boccio
The majority of people online ARE women. We've also evolved to a point where we find blogging 'mainstream' according to recent studies. So it's only natural we're about to out number the boys as early adopters for social services like this.... - Erin Kotecki Vest
Linda, does that mean most of the conversations are about things men are more interested in at the moment? - jjprojects
women mostly follow attractive men hahahhahaha Seriously, it depends what type of woman you mean, the technically minded/employed are definitely here. Plurk doesn't appeal to me, the "forced" interaction is artificial I find. And I am all about information, not conversation... - Allison
Allison, Oh thx :P Yes, the conversations on Plurk are a bit forced sometimes, because of the whole Karma thing. You get points for being active and responding everywhere. The conversations are a lot more informal than here too, usually. - jjprojects
I find SNSing females (in general) to be attention whores that unnecessarily post useless pictures and videos of themselves. I prefer engaging in light, friendly interactions with an emphasis more on information exchange, like FF. I'm a huge fan of the female representation in here. Quality > quantity - Mona N via fftogo
Importing is screwing up the numbers for FF... Women are more social online than email. There are dozens of services I can import 20+ women from (each service), but FF doesn't support it - Cait
Mona, you don't think men can "attention whores" as well, but in a slightly different way? Oh I think they can. - jjprojects
John, I don't think that's the conversations are uninteresting. It's just that the huge preponderance of action in my feed is tweets, which are pretty much like brain farts, not requiring response. I'm here now! - Linda Mills
@jjprojects FF updates very slowly for me, not enough contacts... and I'm not looking up everyone's email to invite them - Cait
@jjprojects of course. Hence the reason there are more males on FF... HA! - Mona N via fftogo
@jjprojects don't you fnd that generally there are more men than women on the 'net? technology is more of a man magnet - Allison Miller
@Allison, do you mean sites and services or the Internet as a whole? - Mona N via fftogo
Is this your first day on the internwebs? There's like only 2 girls on this whole thing. And even THEIR gender is in question until we get pics! ;-) - Adam Turetzky
HERE! @mona I just posted a pic of the keg setup at this party I'm at. How is that for useless ;) - Michelle Miller
The good thing about the women who ARE on the web - they, at least outwardly, appear to be more thoughtful and intelligent than the "common woman." (Am I going to regret saying that?) - Vince DeGeorge
@michelle NO braggage rights until there's one of you doing a keg stand! ;) - Mona N
male attention whores? scoble jumps to mind - Allison
Allison, actually no, I think that used to be the case, but these days I think the gap in narrowing, especially in social media. I'm really talking about social media. If you look at Facebook for instance, there are just as many women as men, if not more. - jjprojects
I don't have many women following me, of course my profile pic ain't that flattering - Dedric
I think there's a lot of women around too, but not as many on FriendFeed. Although I also have a limited number of contacts on here so less inclined to comment. I get people who follow me on Twitter but do not follow me here. It feels (IMO) that FF is much more formal, but then I said that to you the other day, didn't I John! :) Meanwhile, I like FF a lot for this reason.. the comments and conversation. - Penny
We keep saying that ff is quite formal, but I've actually had some quite informal conversations here too, mostly with people who've responded to tweets in ff. I might experiment a bit with trying to start different types of conversations here, not just tech or industry related ones, and see what happens. - jjprojects
It's not exactly a very liberal/free-speechy kind of nation is it? - Adam Turetzky
This more than anything I can think of makes me glad I'm American today. - Sprague D
That country's government sucks. The country itself and (most of) its people are awesome though. - Bjorn Tipling
Sunny-side up: At least they're debating it. :-) - Louis Gray
@Sprague D there are plenty of other countries that don't even have the death penalty for anything - America is only slightly up the scale you know - Ivan Pope via twhirl
It won't be long before Ahmadinejad installs his horse in the Parliament - Peter Simard
I feel sorry for the Iranian people who have to deal with these idiots - Shey
this is just part of a "good cop, bad cop" game. they'll defeat the bill and then everyone will go "Yay! now bloggers only get torture and years in prison for being snarky about the government! Iran is teh progressive democracy!" - Karim
Peter, your comment illicited a surprise snort out of me. I never snort. Good show! - Akiva Moskovitz
Need a shirt now that says, "Give me Blogging, or give me death!" - proud to be an American! - Jesse Stay
@Ivan Pope - nice reply - people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks and all that
@Peter Simard - I think you'll find Nero (he of the horse for senator fame) was higher on the dodgy ranking than the Iranian Government or Ahmadinejad himself
@Jonnyc - spoken like a true Xenophobe - is it timely to mention the debacles that have been performed in the name of other religions - witness the crusades anyone
That said - this isn't what Islam is about - another case of zealots manipulating a religious message for their own purposes...... - Ben Kepes via FriendFeed MT Plugin
I believe they will just chop off hands for tweets - Nicholas Molnar
Mike - agree that Facebook has more... but FriendFeed doesn't need that stuff. Photos, discussions, blogs, events, etc all are "in" FriendFeed in the sense that you can see them and then go interact with the direct source (Upcoming, Flickr, etc). I prefer the distributed model myself, since the individual apps are of higher quality. - Patrick Lightbody
And...FriendFeed doesn't need those things because FriendFeed shouldn't be trying to *be Facebook*! :) - Mike Keliher via twhirl
Facebook without the embarassing pics. Well, unless you have them in Flickr... - Mark Dykeman
Good question Steve - it's emerging as my favorite social network. And I like geeks...hmmm. - Hutch Carpenter
I'd say info-junkies or convo-junkies over geek - Marco
still having difficulties moving people over to ff but once they do... they stay. info over visual- startling to some. - Nice Fish Films
Facebook is not an information mediium, Friendfeed is, so comparing the two doesn't make any sense - Deepak
I'm surprised that when people talk about FF, they don't mention Digg should be afraid. Right now FF provides more relevant links & info than Digg does and the comments are much better too. I would much rather spend my time here than Facebook or Digg. - Otto R. Radke
@Deepak - I guess it depends on how you are defining "information" - I think you could argue that both Facebook and FriendFeed are information mediums but Facebook is a parking lot to FriendFeed's freeway (or Nascar track I suppose, depending on your perspective on noise) - Marco
Two are for the most part different vehicles, just like FF and Twitter - Charlie Anzman
I would call FriendFeed IRC for Web 2.0 - J. Phil via fftogo
Nah, its kind of like Google Reader on Steroids with Twitter for comments???? - Roberto Bonini
Marco, if the information is people's birthday's yes Facebook is information, but I only use it to communicate (almost entirely with people I know), never to find new or interesting material. Friendfeed on the other hand is all about information. - Deepak
Great insight, Steve. I've been thinking for some time that FriendFeed is the stripped-down-for-performance version of Facebook. The Facebook news feed is, for me, its most appealing feature, and FriendFeed is a turbocharged news feed. However, I like facebook too -- it puts me in touch with a different group of people than Friendfeed does. - Mitch Wagner
Oooh! Yes it is!! The valley of links, the river of comments, the gathering services, etc makes FF Our blended Facebook... - George The Writer
we always want it to be black and white but it almost never is. Deepak, you're engaged enough here to communicate with people you don't know (as am I) so it can't be 100% about the information. I agree with both you and Marco because I think you both can be right in this case. - Robert Seidman
Tough for me to say. I could never stand Facebook. - Chris Baskind
That'll be more or less true until (if & when) it get's broader based adoption at which point all the geeks will bitch about it being too mainstream ... of course that assumes they haven't already jumped ship to some other service. - Clay Newton
geeks, nurds they can feel home with friendfeed, facebook is for the masses - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I am disappointed I have never been poked on FF. - Russellreno
I see :) Well, you can delete them one by one but I guess you have tons of them. The other solution is to import another delicious account that has fewer tags. Any delicious account will do, since this doesn't require any authentication. Sorry, I should have implemented "clearing" simply - directeur via NoiseRiver
That's okay. Thanks! 5 pages worth deleted, 5 more to go. It would go faster if the little 'are you sure' dialog didn't keep appearing. ;-) ;-) - Joanmarie
Yea! I am completely and utterly devoid of interests. *grins* Now to start over fresh. - Joanmarie
Mustards in Napa is pretty good. If you make it to Sonoma, try the Girl and the Fig - Tim FitzGerald
Restaurant Cuvee (nice courtyard), Zuzu (tapas), Angele (bistro w/terrace), Cole's Chop House (best steak in town), Annalien (Vietnamese) all popular local Napa venues.Terra, St Helena. - Dave Martin
vineyard-wise there are two I would not miss - Clos Pegase (for the artwork as well as the wine) and, if you can make time to get to Sonoma, I'd swing by Matanzas Creek (gorgeous lavender if its not too late in the season). Enjoy. - Barry Graubart via twhirl
I second the "Girl and the Fig" recommendation. - Tom Landini
thank you all for your recommendations! - Loic Le Meur
Go to Bouchon, the pomme frites are a must have. - Jerry Schuman
French Laundry (3 stars Michelin) for Loic by Thomas Keller...considered one of best chefs in country. - Pokai
but you can only make a reservation for French Laundry exactly 3 months to the day you want to go in advance. On the phone. Only. - edythe
Going in a few weeks....please pass on what you learn - Erin Kotecki Vest
Loic, I would have been very impressed if you had gotten a table at FL as a walk-in. edythe wasn't joking about booking 3 months in advance. - Mike Doeff
Mike, agreed, I told them I had thousand of friends on Friendfeed but they still did not want to let me in ;) @fbrunel I booked at bistrojeanty and will report. - Loic Le Meur
we live in Napa ---- here's the list: Bouchon in Yountville! also Wappo in Calistoga, and the restaurant at the Culinary Institute of course -- all great! in Napa - Angele, Julia's Kitchen, the wine&cheese bar at Oxbow, Pizza Azzuro ----- that's a good starter list for ya -- Mustards too -- have fun! Be sure to go to the Vitner's Collective in Napa for GREAT wines -- that's a must --> http://www.vintnerscollective.... - Jeff Evans
for me it's easier. I like twitter more casue it's on twitter that I first experienced microblogging. You don't just have to "not suck" if you want me to move, you have to give me something totally different. Like.. Friendfeed? :) - Simone
I don't see that as trolling. Identi.ca was supposed to be "the competitor" for Twitter. The site itself is messy, subscriptions are weird, the tracking ability is lacking. I never cared for Pownce at all and Plurk looks like something a kid painted in kindergarten. - Candace Holly
I like it because you get the excitement of never knowing when it's gonna work - Blackopsmanners
i sorta agree, twitter usage seems to be resilient to fail-whale's mystic powers. loyal loyal base.. - Ruben Llibre
Twitter has the right user experience but the wrong internal architecture. The other sites don't even have the former and from what I've seen they don't have the latter either. Identi.ca seems to be amateur city as does Pownce. Plurk was too ugly to try out and no one I know uses Jaiku. - Dare Obasanjo
Jaiku is a pain to join, but the conversation features are nice. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Maybe it is just me, but I don't look at identi.ca to compete with Twitter. Rather it is more about what might be possible from an open source perspective when you're able to make multiple microblogging sites work together. I'm not looking for a "Twitter killer" from it, rather some real technology innovation for distributed microblogging. - David Recordon
plurk is only "ugly".. so why not use just the mobile version. - thecolor
I too enjoy the vertical layout over the horizontal, but prefer the threads in plurk and "stability" over twitters "just tweet". - thecolor
plurk is more of a game as well as a communicative social network. Twitter, feels more like a "statement made" only type of SN. - thecolor
@David Recordon +1. In fact, you truly are a visionary. +2. - Andy C
Isn't it also because FriendFeed lacks whatever it is that Twitter gets right? - blackmailismylife
I agree with David. I think its going to be more about supporting the people that are contributing to the development of a new way of doing Tweet like micro-blogging. - Chacha via twhirl
@blackmailismylife: FriendFeed isn't constrained to 140 chars. Twitter/Jaiku/Pownce/Identi.ca are. What some would see as a feature, others see as a restriction. Sometimes, you need to be constrained to 140 chars. Less is more. - Andy C
Much as I find Scoble the arse-hole of the A-Lister Blogger body, he has a point. Twitter is for all its flaws, the best out there. - Adam Wilcox
I tend to agree. I've tried pownce and din't like it in the least. Twitter is simple and easy. They just need to get their issues fixed. - Richard Miles
Seems to be the way things go. We stick with whatever "sucks less." - Jason Shultz via twhirl
People stick with Twitter because Twitter has the community and the cool API applications. - possible248
@Andy Apples and Oranges. This has been discussed to death but friendfeed doesn't fill the same shoes..er..rackspace as twitter. - Kamath via twhirl
Scoble: What an unpleasant and uncharitable comment to make about Identi.ca, a free service (that will remain free forever, something you are not guaranteed by any of the others that you mention) in early alpha testing. I was already unconvinced by the inexplicable personality cult that you seem to have generated for yourself, but now you've given me the last reason I needed to flip the bozo bit. Thankfully FriendFeed has a button I can use to do that. - Earle Martin
There is a difference between what something is and what it will be. Or what it may be. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Scoble curious what would Bush choose after leaving white house - Fred Grott
I have to agree with @earle on this one, comparing twitter and identi.ca is impossible, identi is very early stages, twitter has been around. I doubt you would compare a alpha release of a program with a final version. As far as the others sucking, how so? I find plurk to be more fun, enlightening, and easier to follow than twitter. - BCK
Identi.ca isn't ready for prime time. It doesn't even keep me logged in. Pownce is good, but no one is there. - Francine Hardaway
BCK: what do you mean we can't compare the two? That's the lamest thing I've read in weeks here. A clone of a service (and that's all that Identi.ca is so far) DAMN STRAIGHT BETTER BE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL. So far it's not. Why should I pay any of my attention time to it if it isn't going to be as good. And anyone who says that they are different is drinking on this 4th of July. At least Plurk looks different. - Robert Scoble
identi.ca was released prematurely, imho. if they waited til they got *all* twitter functionality working before opening it up, would have been a great Twitter clone. Now, it is struggling. Plurk, otoh, tried to look different with all those ajax thingamagigs but too much ajax is not really good! - Rom Feria
Rom: I totally agree with you. I'm also getting tired of trying all these Twitter clones. FriendFeed proved to me that even if something is better in a lot of respects you'll never get enough people to switch to really matter anyway. - Robert Scoble
But some of these services are a great place to talk to a very small number of people (which makes them fun in of themselves). - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Pownce is very slow and I can't sign into it. Fails to let me in. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Jaiku? Slow and hard to comment on and I don't like the UI. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Identi.ca has no way to look at replies, participate in conversations, not to mention no search, no direct messages (even though I hate them), no real community yet, and has lots of bugs like what Francine said. - Robert Scoble
AndyC: Plurk has a UI that 13-year-olds love, but isn't simple to track thousands of people on. - Robert Scoble
Twitter has a huge userbase. But like it or not, many users have moved on to a better Twitter and that's called FriendFeed ;) - Muthu Ramadoss
Replies, privacy, great UI, fast loading, SMS, command line interface, spam control... just for starters... this is why Twitter is still king - Cait
I think it's still because everyone is still on Twitter, and people get replies easily. None of the other networks have that as much. Twitter is still where the action is, despite all it's downtime and technical issues. People have built up quite big communities there too, so are reluctant to leave easily I think. - jjprojects
"It's the ultimate immersion in Japanese culture without the jet lag. Guests are met in the lobby by a wall of TV screens, vending machines and anime murals by Heisuke Kitazawa. You'll also find one of these in each of the 125 rooms, along with glow-in-the-dark desk blotters, 26-inch flat LCD televisions, cable TV with LodgeNet and on-demand movies and games, iPod docking stations with radios, bean bag chairs, and high-speed internet access." - edythe via Bookmarklet
“Imagine a future where libraries are used more for circulating digital materials and as public meeting spaces. In such a future, can we still justify the MLIS degree?”
maybe the L changes but the skills associated with information circulation, archival, reference, and organization are still necessary even if the medium is different and even if Libraries look a lot different than they do today. - Jason Toney
Yes, what Jason said. Information literacy will not magically appear w/ digital materials, said a huge fan of librarians. - Ayşe E.
Yes, if not more so. Skills taught in an MLIS skills go way beyond the public library sector. Metadata will still be needed, cataloguing will still occur. Digital repositories are receiving more and more funding. Journal & other publications are tiered based on bibliometrics. Authors' and researchers' authority & funding are also influnced by bibliometrics. As is academic funding - http://www.toosexyformybooks.c... Specialist libraries such as law and medical will always need information specialists. The need for mediated searching for time poor professionals is increasing. Financial and corporate researchers are still heavily drawn from the LIS pool. I got to final round interview with the leading 'black box' hedge fund for being 2IC of the data quality team purely based on my LIS skills. - Patricia Hanrahan
IR - a key MLIS area - is becoming recognised as being more and more important. A number of SIGIR members and conference attendees have a LIS background. Knowledge of vector space, Latent Semantic Indexing, td*idf, term weighting, precision/recall, relevance ranking etc - all ideas that have stemmed from the LIS sphere - are becoming recognised as being more & more relevant (heck, we've been doing for decades its just now that the tech world is starting to pay attention). Ontologies are an extension of taxonomies, thesauri, basic KO skills that form the backbone of an MLIS. Essentially a librarian's job is to take information, regardless of what its format, organise, index and structure it in such a way that it is retrievable. The old cliche of the librarian matching the reader to the book has not changed at heart, just in its wording - we now match the resource to the user. - Patricia Hanrahan
Oh and don't forget that slayers will always be in need of a good watcher :) - Patricia Hanrahan
For the record, I agree with all that is said here, especially since my first two jobs after graduating were not in a library. I wonder, though, about those librarians who bemoan the changes that are absolutely required of us -- I'm primarily speaking of skillsets here, but a mental shift is required as well. - Cecily Walker
Wow... I feel so tiny, stupid, and inadequate *chuckle* That was awesome. - Michael W. May
