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Tristan Seligmann › Comments
Just so you know: I always get in the last word. So there.
Jon, the Chilled Beartato, Eric Logan, Jeff P. Henderson and 78 other people liked this
okay.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
right...
- Rob Sellen :o)
In spite of whatever Mike Nayyar says.
- Steven Perez
No. No, no, no. Not another "last word" thread. Please, please, please, I'm begging you, stop the insanity!
- DGentry
Sounds reasonable to me.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I think so.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think it's your vampire bunnehs
- Bastard Operator From FF
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
insanity.. here?? you sure? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Wrong.
- Ben Hanten
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Are we starting this *again*?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Starting what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
You know, the whole 'last word' thing. It's been done.
- Michael R. Bernstein
aaannnndd hide!
- Alex Scrivener
No you don't
- Alex Scoble
Not today
- Johnny
- Nick Humphries
Because I said so.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I beg to differ.
- embee
In case anyone really doesn't know what I'm talking about, I'm referring to this: http://friendfeed.com/mikenay...
- Michael R. Bernstein
No begging.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That Facebook thread? NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I've covered everything.
- Steven Perez
from IM
'nother word out of your keyboard and no jam for you!
- Janet
What FB thread?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Word.
- Steven Perez
from IM
up
- Rob Sellen :o)
Down.
- Steven Perez
from IM
dude. what janet said... you don't want to miss the jam. i'm telling you so you can't say i didn't warn ya.
- Trish Haley
Mmmmm, jam ...
- Steven Perez
I love eating Janet's strawberry preserves. :)
- Steven Perez
But this last word means no sugar - sugar
- Janet
Mmmmm, sugar ... I love sugar ... :)
- Steven Perez
No, you don't.
- Alex Scoble
last word word word word
- Geoff Schultz
You like carrots.
- Alex Scoble
That's not what she said. D
- Steven Perez
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet
- Janet
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby.
- Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
What?
- Steven Perez
from IM
zyzzyva (n) - any of various tropical American weevils, often destructive to plants. I just gave the last word. I win !
- Faraz Mullick
Trying to do another epic comment thread, Perez??? In that case. I always get the last word in, period.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yes.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven, look over your left shoulder!
- Janet
YEAH!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
zzzzzzzzzzzz
- Steven Perez
from IM
Na na na na na I can't hear you....
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Hey Hey ! Goodbye !
- Faraz Mullick
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ELMO.
- pea
fiddlesticks
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Pinky and The Brain.
- Faraz Mullick
And yet, nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wiley E. Coyote
- Roberto Bonini
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep
- Alex Scoble
ELMO!
- pea
TELLY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Beeep Beeep
- Roberto Bonini
COOKIE MONSTER!
- Steven Perez
from IM
This is Steven's sad attempt to create a thread with a lot of comments.
- Alex Scoble
No Elmo?
- pea
If you're on the highway and Road Runner goes beep beep.
- Faraz Mullick
Alex: No, it's my sad attempt to create a thread with lots of comments ... THAT ORIGINATED FROM FRIENDFEED, NOT FACEBOOK.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Pea: well, OK. Maybe some Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Elmo!!
- pea
I win! Yay!
- pea
But Telly rules.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
MISSSSSSSSSSS PIGGYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Nope, Kermit.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea
[you're slow]
- pea
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
[still too slow]
- pea
nope
- pea
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
The multiple errors only serve to show how wrong you are so, yes, by all means, keep posting.
- pea
But I'm right.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Sure, you are Steven. In Bizarro world anything is possible.
- pea
Coming from a resident of Bizarro World, I'll take that as a compliment.
- Steven Perez
from IM
As you should. How do you think I'm always right?
- pea
Which, on Bizarro World, means you're wrong.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ALWAYS RIGHT.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, FULL OF WILD BLUEBERRIES.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Thank you, Harvey. <3
- pea
NICE KNOWING YOU, PEREZ.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Would that make Pea Violet? Does Pea chew gum?
- Alex Scoble
Better than Pea being Salt. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ALL SUGAR AND SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE. Argue that, and let's see how mean you really wanna be. In the meantime, my head hurts so discuss this amongst yourselves. You can summarize it for me later.
- pea
bye.
- pea
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ON THE WRONG PLANET EARTH AND IS, IN FACT, ONE OF THE MISSING POWERPUFF GIRLS.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And I'm right.
- Steven Perez
from IM
hee. I wish.
- pea
oooh no! Can I be a Carebear? With a heart? and make me pink!
- pea
But I am right.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Or no!
- pea
PURPLE!
- pea
You would have to be fuzzier, Pea.
- Steven Perez
from IM
uh. careful there. i know it's not always obvious, but there is a line.
- pea
Have another drink. You'll be plenty fuzzy then.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'll take a Fuzzy Navel, if drink orders are being made.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I'll take two beers, too.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Oooh, Friday Night Shots!
- CAJ, somewhere else
back in your dumpster, Perez!
- Jim: Dead Like FF
GUINNESS FOR EVERYONE!
- Steven Perez
from IM
I NO HAZ A DUMMSTER. I HAZ A KRAIT.
- Steven Perez
from IM
U GOTZ UR KARIT OUT OF A DUMMSTER! GO BAK IN IT!
- Jim: Dead Like FF
NOPE. AHM IN YUR GARDIN, STEELIN YUR VEGGEES.
- Steven Perez
from IM
did someone say Guinness?
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Yes, please.
- CAJ, somewhere else
What Guinness?
- Steven Perez
from IM
dat won, dar!
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Huh what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven, meet internets, internets meet Steven...
- Alex Scoble
O HAI INTERNETS! I HAZ LAST WURD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
night... mr perez. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Day, Mr. Sellen. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
afternoon, gents
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Tardes, mis amigos.
- Steven Perez
from IM
after I wake it will be mr Perez... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
DUE NE1 NO WER BUNNEHPEREZ BRAIN GOH?
- Alex Scoble
After you wake, you will know, Mr. Sellen.
- Steven Perez
from IM
DO NOBODY NO WHY IT PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME?
- Steven Perez
from IM
i hope so.. lol. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You'll see.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Because I do.
- Steven Perez
OH NOES, not another one of these! DYSP!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
YES!
- Steven Perez
my reaction to this is almost visceral
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Visceral? Is that like meaty?
- Steven Perez
Deja vu!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
it's DAY Mr Perez.. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's what I hear.
- Steven Perez
certainly is.. just checked. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yep. That's why I'm going back to sleep.
- Steven Perez
Not so fast...!
- Ron Thompson
from iPhone
I never go fast.
- Steven Perez
or slow
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's what she said. Wait, what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
or maybe you thought she said..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Of course she said it...
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
That's not all she said.
- Steven Perez
stop?
- Rob Sellen :o)
No, I'd have remembered that.
- Steven Perez
No, wait, she did say that. Of course, she put the word "Don't" in front of it.
- Steven Perez
aaaaah... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's what she said, too. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
giggle... as well? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Well, there was some light tickling involved.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Sounds like a party.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
A SEXY party. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yeah, this thread isn't going to end well.
- Alex Scoble
Speak for yourself. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
o really?
- imabonehead
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
NO
- Rob Sellen :o)
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :)
- Sean McBride
eeny, meeny, miny, moe...
- imabonehead
I like Shemp.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What about shrimp dumplings?
- imabonehead
fish milkshake...
- Rob Sellen :o)
I like fresh bao better.
- Steven Perez
I like Scott Baio best.
- pea
That's because Charles is in charge.
- Steven Perez
OK.
- James (!?)
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond.
- Jimminy Fuller
This is a point that can never be proved, nor disproved until all but one of us are dead.
- Slappy Line
So... it's kind of like a "tontine" but with a pretty weak payoff?
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Hmmm, actually, it only needs to continue until Steven Perez is dead (of very old age, i of course hope). Our victory is guaranteed. Of course, if friendfeed gets eaten by fb, it's just going to be a race to get the last comment in before the site goes down.
- Slappy Line
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status.
- Jimminy Fuller
Acme!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
BOOM... just like that
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Just like that.
- Steven Perez
Huh?
- τorƍue
Huh what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nevermind.
- τorƍue
Bunneh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Should I stay or should I go?
- imabonehead
#notabunneh
- Steven Perez
from IM
#bunnehselfidentificationfail
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
from iPhone
System.out.println("Hello World!");
- imabonehead
Um, not a bunneh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You are !!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
BUNNEH!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
#NOPENOTABUNNEH
- Steven Perez
from IM
#STEVENPEREZISABUNNEH
- Roberto Bonini
#NOPENOPENOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
O HI I COMMENTED ON YR FEED POST
- Tristan Seligmann
O HAI!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
EXACTLY.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I fluffed.
- sofarsoShawn
in search of da bunnehz...
- imabonehead
No bunnehs here.
- Steven Perez
最終的なワード
- Geoff Schultz
Δεν μου το νήμα.
- Steven Perez
...
- Nick Humphries
¿Qué tiene de malo?
- Steven Perez
from IM
這意味著什麼？
- Steven Perez
from IM
Would you like fries with your bunnehz?
- imabonehead
Jag är inte en kanin.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Or a bunneh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
それがあなたのスレッドであることを意味する
- Geoff Schultz
Вы не сделать смысле.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I bet Steven will lock this thread to win. Probably in six messages.
- Geoff Schultz
Ne tak docela.
- Steven Perez
from IM
But you are not immortal. Nyah nyah nyah.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
But my powers of comment control are. Nyah nyah nyah.
- Steven Perez
Hey, that disable function is gonna come in real handy when I don't want to be bothered. :D
- Steven Perez
lol!!
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's what I said. :D
- Steven Perez
Like I was saying ... :D
- Steven Perez
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Beau Liening
That's not what I said.
- Steven Perez
That's how you can tell that a man is compensating. He needs to have the last word. :-p
- amygeek
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
whatever. bunneh.
- Joel Robert Perez
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pickles
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
puddin'
- Joel Robert Perez
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Hey what is that in the back seat?
- L Stephen Cleary
I forgot about those.
- Steven Perez
from IM
How is the salsa?
- L Stephen Cleary
HAWT LIKE HER. WAIT, WHUT?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Some do like it hawt!
- L Stephen Cleary
That's what she said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And then the cows came into the barn
- L Stephen Cleary
And kicked over the lantern.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question.
- L Stephen Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want.
- Jimminy Fuller
What?
- Steven Perez
James Watt, former Secretary of Interior who strongly believed in the coming end of the world.
- John E. Bredehoft
fine
- sofarsoShawn
Steven, I'm sure that not even you would resort to cheating to get the last word. I vote we just find the comment limit. It's gonna be a number ending in '0'
- Slappy Line
Where's the fun in that?
- Steven Perez
It depends on who you're talking to
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
This is silly. Everybody stop and give Perez the satisfaction of getting the final word.
- Ben Parr
Who was I talking to?
- Steven Perez
No.
- Michael McKean
OK.
- Steven Perez
Razzmatazz.
- Michael McKean
Sassafrass.
- Steven Perez
mandelbrassa
- Patrik Johansson
Wubba wubba wubba.
- Steven Perez
What we need is an automated program to post on this thread so that SP wears out.
- τorƍue
You think that would work?
- Steven Perez
<whispers>elmo</whispers>
- pea
comment comment.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven, you have a phone call
- Janet
Sorry, I didn't pay my phone bill yet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO NOT COMMENT.
- Nick Humphries
About what?
- Steven Perez
<(;^o, oh yes, but I get the last character.
- Janet
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
yep
- Jim: Dead Like FF
nope.
- imabonehead
I do.
- Steven Perez
Oh come on now. Be original man!
- Mike Nayyar
Says you.
- Steven Perez
he probably could.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
What, you mean, like this?
- Steven Perez
pwned!
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Nope.
- Steven Perez
This still going on?
- Alex Scoble
What is?
- Steven Perez
When we launch clonefeed, this will not be tolerated
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
There will be an auto-magic last word getter:)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Really?
- Steven Perez
Yes.
- τorƍue
Are you sure?
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm positive
- Alex Scoble
I dunno.
- Steven Perez
And yes, I do.
- Steven Perez
You do?
- Jimminy Fuller
I think, therefore I am.
- imabonehead
Noipe.
- Steven Perez
Fushta!
- Joe Pierce
Blue.
- Steven Perez
smurf
- imabonehead
Sylvania
- Joe Pierce
Burp.
- Steven Perez
Technically, sound effects are not words... so I'm thinking.... word!
- Fossil Huntress
I'm thinking word up!
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Don't think.
- Steven Perez
Do.
- pea
you may not, but I do.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
I try not to.
- Steven Perez
it shows.
- pea
Because it come naturally.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bird, bird, bird... bird is the word...
- Fossil Huntress
That's what she said!!!
- Jimminy Fuller
Where the hell did that bird come from? My guess is from Johnny's beard.
- Jimminy Fuller
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That is, of course, till the fat lady sings ...
- Rene Wirtz
I am not a lady. Or a bunneh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wow, you still haven't got the last word Steven?:p
- Patrik Johansson
I always do.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
nope
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
idunnothinksoladdie.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
You shouldn't use big words that you can't spell, James.
- Steven Perez
from IM
i'lljustblamethislackofspacingontheferrets.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Take the ferrets out of your pants, James.
- Steven Perez
from IM
fine with me. take the last word. take it and shove it up Brett Favre's ass.
- Morgan Haley
I don't shove ANYTHING up a former or current cheesehead's posterior, thankyouverymuch.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'llsickthemonyoulikeIdidwithAmber,that'safunstory.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And what is yo-yo code for in that last statement?
- pea
It's an old Navajo word for "punk-ass bitch".
- Steven Perez
from IM
Osiyo uneka!
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
i speak Nav-a-ho (not to be confused with Navajo) - and punk-ass bitch is pronounced Perez comma Steven Last Word Not Getter
- Morgan Haley
I thought you spoke Slap-a-ho. And we all know that "Morgan Haley" is Lakota for "still wets the bed".
- Steven Perez
from IM
hey, can i help it if your mom makes me cum that much?
- Morgan Haley
and I liked the 'Slap-a-ho' comment...funny stuff...but you didn't hear that from me, ok?
- Morgan Haley
My mom doesn't have four legs, Morgan. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Then WHO'S mom is she? Damn!!! I need to check ID's a little more carefully from now on!!!!
- Morgan Haley
In the future, just make sure that she doesn't bark. On purpose.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Great. Take away ALL the fun right from the start! What. EV. ERRRRRR.
- Morgan Haley
Hey, you lie down with dogs ...
- Steven Perez
you get up with a hell of a story to tell around the cooler at work.
- pea
I wouldn't know.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Ah, you're sticking to the party line.
- pea
maybe it was steven's mom, but he is ashamed of how she earns 75 cents a day....hmmmm....
- Morgan Haley
How many times I gotta tell you, Morgana? Stop sleeping with four-footed animals.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hahaha
- Alex Scoble
Laugh it up, Fuzzball.
- Steven Perez
No, you didn't... 9)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I got the last word on another thread of yours, just saying
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Not yet, you didn't.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Who what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
And by IM, yeah then you'll get it, I won't fight on that ground ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
That's where.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Huh?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Why o why does this keep popping up on my page?!
- R1CC1
Cuz.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Uncle.
- R1CC1
Auntie.
- Steven Perez
Paul, can you please close this thread, after commenting?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep.
- imabonehead
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
One thing you cannot do and we can, is like this post, so we win there.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Perez's law: The last word spoken cannot be un-spoken, unless its a FF comment thread.
- Roberto Bonini
Actually, Perez's Law states "A hot redheaded woman must be obeyed at all times." But I digress.
- Steven Perez
from Android
Later.
- Steven Perez
k.
- Ben Parr
Yep.
- Steven Perez
well play'd bump, ;)
- chaz2b
I thought so.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Stop the madness.
- DGentry
*sigh*
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
No sighing aloud here, Kaia.
- Steven Perez
Damn you REALLY do!!
- Chris Myles
Only on this thread really, and only when he's awake
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
That's what I've been saying.
- Steven Perez
Yeah, that's why your comment shows up.
- Steven Perez
Make it $10. I'll have killed this thread before then.
- Steven Perez
2 cents..
- Chris Myles
3 cents.
- John E. Bredehoft
Nerf Herder
- Joe Pierce
I've heard better.
- Steven Perez
Yep.
- Steven Perez
wut?
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Yep.
- Steven Perez
Really? Huh. I'll have to remember that.
- Carlton Prest
Good.
- Steven Perez
wonders who will tire of this first
- Bastard Operator From FF
Not me.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Me, neither.
- Steven Perez
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Cuz.
- Steven Perez
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Boo!
- Penny
AIIEE! *drops pants*
- Steven Perez
from IM
Damn you, Steven Perez's underwear!
- Slappy Line
Underwear?
- Steven Perez
spoon
- Caroline
Caroline, let's eat first.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
On a mid-sunday afternoon on the saturday prior, there was an event of grandiose platitudes.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
OK.
- Steven Perez
ha!
- .LAG liked that
HA HA!
- Steven Perez
oh no you don't... ;)
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
Yep.
- Steven Perez
A douchebag will write the next comment.
- Djordje Lukic
Nope, you're wrong. A douchebag wrote the previous comment.
- Steven Perez
Darn
- Djordje Lukic
Damn, even.
- Steven Perez
You are loving this ... aren't you?
- Chris Myles
A little.
- Steven Perez
I don't know why you're like this.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
from fftogo
Becuz ah wuv woo.
- Steven Perez
zyzzyva
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
Huh?
- Steven Perez
What?
- Scratch5150
Where?
- Steven Perez
so what is the last word ?
- johnpiercy
Mine.
- Steven Perez
from IM
i believe that would be "word", john.
- Yolanda
Who?
- Scratch5150
How?
- Steven Perez
When?
- Scratch5150
Later.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Then?
- Scratch5150
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
After?
- Scratch5150
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
When?
- Scratch5150
Later.
- Steven Perez
Then?
- Scratch5150
Maybe.
- Steven Perez
from IM
After
- Scratch5150
Girls?
- Scratch5150
Probably.
- Steven Perez
Long thread ... you maybe up late Mr Perez
- johnpiercy
Booze?
- Scratch5150
Always? Sometimes!
- Ian May
not tonight
- johnpiercy
Booze.
- Steven Perez
Booze and Babes?
- Scratch5150
In plenitude.
- Steven Perez
Tonight?
- Scratch5150
No.
- Steven Perez
When?
- Scratch5150
Wrong again...
- Liza
Dunno.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Really?
- Scratch5150
Yep.
- Steven Perez
Bummer
- Scratch5150
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Later?
- Scratch5150
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Party?
- Scratch5150
o_O
- Steven Perez
from IM
Ok Later.
- Scratch5150
wait I have something to say
- johnpiercy
Me too.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
K
- Scratch5150
I forgot what it was now
- Ian May
K
- Scratch5150
Yah.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Vista or OS 9?
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
You?
- Scratch5150
Suicide.
- Scratch5150
"Who gone check me boo?"
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
?
- Scratch5150
Huh?
- Steven Perez
Yeah.
- Scratch5150
What?
- Steven Perez
I haz coffee
- Ian May
I haz tea.
- Steven Perez
Yup
- Scratch5150
i haz T2!
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I Haz Cofftea
- Scratch5150
Beans by Lipton
- Scratch5150
Oh man I gotta get off this thing.. dude is getting his ass beat.
- Scratch5150
...what are these "last words" you speak of?
- .LAG liked that
Fun thread Steven.. yak at you later.
- Scratch5150
Laters.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You really think so!
- Gwen Sutton
I'm sure the 'last word' appreciates your decision to use lube...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
o_O
- Steven Perez
I would like to register a complaint! "o_O" is not a word.
- Ian May
Sorry, you'll have to call back when the Complaint Department is open.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I've resisted the urge before, but I just HAVE to make him say something else.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Say what?
- Steven Perez
what.
- pea
What what.
- Steven Perez
I am drinking a pint of water.
- Ian May
Yeah.
- Steven Perez
Nope.
- imabonehead
from Android
u still here Mr Perez
- johnpiercy
Whoa It is Hawt in here -
- L Stephen Cleary
Maybe.
- Steven Perez
damn damn damn
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Cockles & Mussells alive alive o!
- Ian May
Huh?
- Steven Perez
Google Bookmarks
- Ian May
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
This saddens me
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Bah.
- Steven Perez
from IM
you forgot the L.
- pea
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What would happen if someone other than you posted something, and FriendFeed immediately crashed...FOREVER???
- John E. Bredehoft
Nuthin.
- Steven Perez
He's right. What evidence would there be that he hadn't got the last word, if we couldn't access it?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
You'd just have to trust me.
- Steven Perez
Trust...You?
- Alex Scoble
Yup. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
what?
- Scratch5150
SHHHHHHHHH ... EDITING PODCAST NAO.
- Steven Perez
from IM
sorry
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
K
- Scratch5150
Night. ; )
- Fossil Huntress
You spelled now wrong. Less editing, more Sesame Street watching.
- pea
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Steven, I was agreeing with you.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Huh?
- Steven Perez
Do what?
- Steven Perez
Which one?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Huh?
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Going down the only road I've ever known."
- pea
Huh?
- Steven Perez
I hereby grant you permission to have the last word. Carry on.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
YAY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Can anyone chip in?
- Gordon Herd
Don't see why not.
- Steven Perez
from IM
[chips in]
- Nick Humphries
busy busy busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
again?
- Ethan
very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
No one has the slightest idea how much Steven is enjoying this...
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
unpossibly busy, you are, i'm sure.
- pea
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
- Steven Perez
from IM
whateva.
- Ladybug Heather
TWSS.
- Steven Perez
from IM
great way to get comments.
- Gwen Sutton
What is?
- Steven Perez
from IM
What?
- Steven Perez
I do?
- Steven Perez
Who is?
- Steven Perez
Huh?
- Steven Perez
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
- Steven Perez
49 20 61 6d 20 6e 6f 74 20 70 72 65 73 73 69 6e 67 20 61 6e 79 20 62 75 74 74 6f 6e 73 20 74 6f 64 61 79 2e
- Steven Perez
That made no sense.
- Steven Perez
I'm sure this whole thread makes no sense.
- Alex Scoble
Why? Seriously?
- Santa CW™
NO KICKING.
- Steven Perez
329415
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
OU812
- Steven Perez
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
3.14
- Steven Perez
34/0
- Steven Perez
*brings FF back to life*
- Steven Perez
*puts FF resurrection on infinite loop*
- Steven Perez
ERROR: EXISTING LOOP IN MEMORY. "PEREZ GETS LAST WORD" ALREADY IN PROGRESS.
- Steven Perez
PROGRAM "PEREZ GETS LAST WORD" LOADED INTO BIOS. DO NOT ALTER.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ERROR. ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM ACTIVATED. TARGETING ROGUE ELEMENT. DELETION IN PROGRESS.
- Steven Perez
from IM
SMART AGENTS HAVE ISOLATED ROGUE ELEMENTS FROM SYSTEM. NOW TRANSFERRING TO MOEBIUS LOOP.
- Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENTS LOCKED IN MOEBIUS LOOP. ISOLATION COMPLETE. SYSTEM IS SAFE.
- Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENT ATTEMPTING ESCAPE. 1.2% CHANCE OF SUCCESS.
- Steven Perez
STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY TESTED BY ROGUE ELEMENT. NO BREACH DETECTED.
- Steven Perez
ROGUE ELEMENT STILL ATTEMPTING ESCAPE. FRANKLY, IT'S QUITE HILARIOUS.
- Steven Perez
STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY INTACT. TICKLES.
- Steven Perez
O HAI.
- Steven Perez
"This has got to be the worst mother fucking intervention in history."
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Hawt Hawt Hawt the binge of boredom limps on
- L Stephen Cleary
Huh?
- Steven Perez
This Ends Now
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
What, now?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Artificial deadlock; stalemate; ennui borne by inertia.
- James (!?)
duh, not another one!! how many threads shud i let people know that i haz d last word always?!
- Gtp19
Not this one.
- Steven Perez
from IM
eveyone of them. period.
- Gtp19
OK. But not here. I have the last word.
- Steven Perez
from IM
<clears throat>....um, this is the last woid!
- .LAG liked that
O RLY?
- Steven Perez
from IM
orally
- Joe Silence is not Santa
That's what they said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
YOINKS!
- Santa CW™
Yep.
- Steven Perez
Oh, quit enabling him, everybody. :-P
- Ladybug Heather
Yeah!
- Steven Perez
No way :p
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Way.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That's the IM way - cheating! Go web! :D
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Blah blah blah.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hide.
- April Buchheit
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Ok, ur wish.
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
That's what I said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I said that too.
- Ian May
Sounds familiar.
- Nurse Katie
Really?
- Steven Perez
Yep
- Nurse Katie
I don't believe you, Katie.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Well that's just too bad.
- Nurse Katie
Oh, really?
- Steven Perez
Si
- Nurse Katie
So
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Nope, you're wrong.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Have you ever been at a loss for words?
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
Only in the presence of a beautiful woman.
- Steven Perez
from IM
dude's smooth :)
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
That's what she said. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
So it's 'he said, she said' now, is it?
- Ian May
That's what she said. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
In bed!
- Slappy Line
Titles 14-17, Sections 14-101 to 17-206, Estates of Decedents to Appeals
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
That goes without saying.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ALT TITLE 246 3 Tennessee court rules annotated
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Good thing we're not in Tennessee.
- Steven Perez
from IM
it pops up a lot doesn't it?
- Ian May
TWSS
- pea
Only when the wind blows.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I would.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I did.
- Ian May
I think friendfeed only put the extra "Add comment" link at the bottom of threads because of this specific thread. It took me a full 20 seconds to scroll from one end of it to the other.
- Slappy Line
How Long ?
- johnpiercy
That's what she said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Seeing is believing
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
That's what she said, too.
- Steven Perez
Huh?
- Steven Perez
Is that Klingon?
- Steven Perez
No. Talaxian.
- pea
DO ANYBODY NO Y STEVEN ACK LIKE THIS?
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
NUH-UH
- Jimminy Fuller
YEP.
- Steven Perez
DROW
- RetiredTeacherD
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Oh this game again.
- Sparky
What game? Tiddlywinks?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Would you like fries with your beef bulgogi?
- imabonehead
What about the vegan menu?
- Steven Perez
from IM
I like turtle, is that vegan?
- Jimminy Fuller
Tastes like chicken.
- Steven Perez
Grease is the word
- Anna Haro
I thought the bird was the word? :-p
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Only when you're awake
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
LAST
- Nicholas James
Urgh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
meh.
- imabonehead
Bah.
- Steven Perez
pffft
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
Feh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
The rain takes a breather here and shows up during rush hour.
- Steven Perez
I'm just passing thru...
- Ian May
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
NOM NOM NOM.
- Steven Perez
from IM
good morning, intrawebs!
- imabonehead
NO MORE CARDBOARD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Revised ed.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
No revisions necessary.
- Steven Perez
from IM
In Soviet Russia,...
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
R E F E R E N C E S Available upon request.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Kaia has lost her mind.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Found what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
ICE CREAM N CAKE, DO THE ICE CREAM N CAKE
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
:)
- Nicholas James
Is a smiley a word, technically?
- James (!?)
L:O:L
- Jimminy Fuller
Word Up!
- Ian May
Huh?
- Steven Perez
Yeah. You win. Not me. :P
- Danny Minick
OK.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Negative.
- imabonehead
Positive.
- Steven Perez
win
- Kevin Nunez
That's what I said.
- Steven Perez
That's what he said.
- imabonehead
Dear Scott, Hell, no. Regards, Me.
- Steven Perez
Ste... lose.
- Jimminy Fuller
Huh what?
- Steven Perez
Yeah Right
- Scratch5150
Yup.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I guess I should have been clearer, Steven... lose.
- Jimminy Fuller
Ah. In that case, NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Really?
- Scratch5150
Yah.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Sweet.
- Jimminy Fuller
Sure?
- Scratch5150
Steven just lost the game.
- Jimminy Fuller
He will fight back. :/
- Faraz Mullick
But he disagreed with me, in saying it was futile and he wouldn't lose.
- Jimminy Fuller
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You did too.
- Jimminy Fuller
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Maybe you do, but you'll never have the 777th comment on this post!
- invariant - farewell FF
So?
- Steven Perez
from IM
What?
- Scratch5150
Ok, looks like I'm just going to have to disable comments then.
- Jimminy Fuller
You mean, like this?
- Steven Perez
HA HA!
- Steven Perez
from Android
You.
- Steven Perez
from Android
Dammit, I thought I closed these comments last night. What is going on?
- Jimminy Fuller
O RLY?
- Steven Perez
from IM
SRSLY!
- Jimminy Fuller
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That's what they said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
and the last dance?
- Anna Haro
…and the last spit-take?
- James (!?)
The very last.
- Steven Perez
from IM
NAY.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I SAID AYE!
- Steven Perez
from IM
I SAID JAY!
- John E. Bredehoft
That just means the rest of you are wrong.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nuh uh.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post?
- Mike Nencetti
I would just post.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Mike, you need to go back and read.
- Laura wishes you peace.
Nah, just post.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steve, you owe me $50 bucks in iTunes giftcards if you reply. ^_^
- Danny Minick
Good thing my name is Steven, then. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
lol
- Kevin Nunez
>.< Damn loopholes.
- Danny Minick
Steven Perez, you owe me $50 bucks in iTunes giftcards if you reply. ^_^
- Kevin Nunez
Yah. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
so where's mah moneh >.<
- Kevin Nunez
I would never give out so crappy a gift. Besides, I gots no monies.
- Steven Perez
from IM
:(
- Kevin Nunez
Tough break. Maybe after I move, I might feel more generous.
- Steven Perez
from IM
803 more comments
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Sounds about right.
- Steven Perez
from IM
wedding band
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Well, I've DJ'd before. Does that count?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Maybe Steven. Maybe
- Nicholas James
Ain't no maybe about it.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Let's get this bad boy up to 1,000 comments. GO!
- R1CC1
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
Got your beer?
- R1CC1
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
- LogEx
So, yes. You've had a few beers. Right then.
- R1CC1
I WILL NOT BROOK IMPOSTERS.
- Steven Perez
Hawt Mosquitoes invading the house tonight - looking for flamethrowers to knock down the buzzzzzzz
- L Stephen Cleary
Yikes.
- Steven Perez
Still trying to get the last word in?
- Alex Scoble
Trying? :)
- Steven Perez
Yes?
- Jimminy Fuller
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yep.
- imabonehead
http://friendfeed.com/real-ch...
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
OK.
- Steven Perez
Qu'est-ce que c'est?
- Bryce Roney
Psycho Killer?
- LogEx
Huh?
- Steven Perez
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa better Run run run run run run run away
- LogEx
Um, OK.
- Steven Perez
from IM
We need to talk about the way you treat us.
- Jimminy Fuller
NOPE. IT'S ICE CREAM TIME.
- Steven Perez
from IM
CILANTRO ICE CREAM??
- Jimminy Fuller
DUH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Can you treat us to some?
- Jimminy Fuller
Cilantro & Jalapeno Flavored Ice Cream
- Scratch5150
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Cilantro Cheerios.
- LogEx
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
But its sooooo good!
- Scratch5150
Why not?
- Jimminy Fuller
And apparently it takes bunnehs forever to scoop ice cream.
- Jimminy Fuller
NOM NOM NOM ICE CREAM.
- Steven Perez
Is that a flavor?
- Scratch5150
will you have the last word already?
- Robert Scoble
n. o. p. e.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think this will be around 'til the day Friendfeed dies...
- Carlton Prest
I closed them for him last night, so he won.
- Jimminy Fuller
or later
- Ian May
N. O. P. E.
- Steven Perez
Y . E . P .
- imabonehead
Bacon
- Ian May
ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO WIN?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Boo
- Ethan
DO NOT TEST ME. I WILL PUT CILANTRO IN YOUR COCOA PUFFS.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You mean 'more cilantro in my cocoa puffs', right?
- Sparky
I MEANT WHAT I SAID.
- Steven Perez
from IM
AN ELEPHANT'S FAITHFUL
- Laura wishes you peace.
HEY! STOP SHOUTING!
- Steven Perez
from IM
IT'S MY COMMENT AND I'LL SHOUT IF I WANT TO, SHOUT IF I WANT TO, SHOUT IF I WANT TO.....
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I tried Shout brand laundry detergent once but I wasn't impressed.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
@Dave: Come on now. ;-D
- James (!?)
Thanks, Dave. :)
- Laura wishes you peace.
ARE YOU STILL GOING?
- Steven Perez
from IM
YEP, ARE YOU?
- Jimminy Fuller
Where are we going?
- Laura wishes you peace.
I'm going to a picnic.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I am a picnic.
- Sparky
don't forget to pick us up.
- imabonehead
Sorry, this picnic is by TARDIS only.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I wonder how many people on average get stabbed on reality dating shows
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
3 billion.
- Steven Perez
from IM
and 1.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
TAG!
- R1CC1
No, me!
- Laura wishes you peace.
hey guys
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
i'm so surprised
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
That doesn't surprise me.
- Steven Perez
from Android
zyzzyva (n) - any of various tropical American weevils, often destructive to plants I believe that's the last word.
- motownmutt
48 more comments and you have surpassed the three men on a beach doing the nasty stuff with moobage. Let's get on it.
- Janet
I see others have already submitted my entry for zyzzyva.
- motownmutt
10 GO TO
- motownmutt
O RLY?
- Steven Perez
from IM
G'day! ;)
- R1CC1
O HAI!
- Steven Perez
from IM
this is just sad
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Well, then, stop crying.
- Steven Perez
LIES!
- Mattb4rd
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
damn :/
- Mattb4rd
That's the way it goes.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That way.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I should wash my hair
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Ice cream? Where?
- Steven Perez
from IM
do anybody no why this dude is smoking under my window
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Why? Because I won't shut up. And you're welcome. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
Last word?
- Sparky
Is mine.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Or mine.
- Sparky
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What about this time?
- Sparky
Word
- Eric Logan
OR THIS TIME.
- Sparky
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yup.
- Sparky
Uh, no.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Why not?
- Sparky
And I'll be checking in on the road. So there.
- Steven Perez
from IM
O. M. G.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yay! O.M.G. is not a word, it's an acronym! FF Wins - DYSP! :)
- Mattb4rd
Actually, it's three words.
- Steven Perez
from IM
If I said it, then yes.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Doesn't matter. I said it, therefore it is.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Doh!
- Mattb4rd
A deer.
- Steven Perez
from IM
adoe
- Rob Sellen :o)
A female deer.
- Sparky
Ray.
- Steven Perez
No, dummy, a drop of golden sun.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And a few teaspoonfuls of LSD!
- Sparky
o_O Um, no.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nope. Mine.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Who wants 1000? I'm willing to bet it's S. Perez...
- Sparky
I'm not keeping count, so I don't care.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You just want to be max(n) regardless of n?
- Sparky
Last. Word. Period.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nope.
- imabonehead
Yep.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Dang!
- Gwen Sutton
<inserts ASCII art penis into the conversation>
- Sparky
<inserts ASCII LOLcat into conversation>
- Steven Perez
from IM
I CAN HAS LAST WORD?
- Sparky
NO YOU CANNOT HAZ LAST WORD. NOT YOURZ.
- Steven Perez
from IM
OH HAI, AKCHULY LAST WORD IS MINE.
- Sparky
LAST WURD IZ MINEZ. YUR ARGUMUNT IZ UNVALAD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
UNVLAD SOUNDS LIKE A VAMPIRE> SUCKS OUT LAST WORD FROM NECK OF BUNNEH.
- Sparky
UNVALAD IZ NOT VAMPYRE. UNVALAD IZ YU HAVIN LAST WURD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I prefer a nice, leisurely stroll.
- Steven Perez
from IM
*yawn*
- Steven Perez
from IM
*yawn* *yawn*
- Steven Perez
from IM
*yawn* is not a word. It's a sound.
- John E. Bredehoft
It is when I say it.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I still have not read this thread...
- Mike Nencetti
Just as well.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bah. I'm allowed to be as rude as I want.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bah.
- Steven Perez
from IM
hai
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
O HAI NIQUE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bah. Feh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
where?
- Anna Haro
I keep recommending a week of rest.
- Sean McBride
I'm about to have more than a week's worth of rest.
- Steven Perez
Leaving us to have the last word.
- Sparky
That's what you think.
- Steven Perez
from IM
A boy can dream, can't he?
- Sparky
He can. After all, I've met the King of Dreams before, and he says that boys can dream all they want.
- Steven Perez
from IM
*dreams of the King of Dreams* He's so dreamy!
- Sparky
And strangely enough, the Dream King looks like Neil Gaiman.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Bah. Feh.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Word.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Interesting. They look a little younger and a little blonder than what I had in mind.
- Steven Perez
Um, no, actually.
- Steven Perez
Hawt today then later it cooled down - couple Modelo's helped too
- L Stephen Cleary
This is more my speed: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Steven Perez
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
Nope. This is more like it: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Steven Perez
OK. I go now. Have fun with this til I get back.
- Steven Perez
right gang lets see if we can find the comment limit before he gets back
- Slappy Line
word
- Eric Logan
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE THE BEEFS?
- Slappy Line
DO ANYBODY NO WHO GET THE LAST WERD FOR REAL
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I do.
- Joe Pierce
Hawt Cha Cha Cha
- L Stephen Cleary
BOO!
- Steven Perez
HUH?
- Steven Perez
This again?
- Sparky
LAST
- Nicholas James
WHAT?
- Steven Perez
YOU Gotta Be kidding me ...
- johnpiercy
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Hehehhehehe Your Amazing Perez
- johnpiercy
So did I.
- Steven Perez
Me, too!
- James (!?)
You're wrong Steven ... I get the last word. :)
- Nicholas James
Good luck with that, Steven.
- Jason Huebel
He keeps going and going...
- Jason Huebel
.. and going...
- Jason Huebel
yoo hoo!
- Ian May
Are you guys still trying to win?
- Steven Perez
from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments...
- Joe
from iPod
Ya think?
- Steven Perez
from Android
Good Morning, Steven!
- Jimminy Fuller
Good morning, Jimminy.
- Steven Perez
from Android
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Hey Mr Perez ,
- johnpiercy
Not today.
- Steven Perez
fail
- Ethan
Indeed.
- Steven Perez
DYSP, just disable additional comments and get over with it! :)
- Jemm
Maybe.
- Steven Perez
Nope.
- Steven Perez
It would be fun for me.
- Steven Perez
i ate too many chips
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Do I smell cheese?
- Jason Huebel
No, I think it's me.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Yes.
- Steven Perez
i want something with cheese in it. or on it. Or both.
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Now that you've nearly reached 1100 comments, I realized that I hadn't officially "liked" this yet! Error rectified, though you're clearly a comment whore, you show great panache while doing so!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Eleven Hundred! WOW!
- Ian May
1 + 1 = 11
- imabonehead
1 + 1 = 3 for exceptionally large values of 1.
- DGentry
Huh?
- Steven Perez
from Android
no way
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
1 X 1 = 1111
- imabonehead
Sunshine Morning, Coffee Time!
- Ian May
Math is hard.
- Steven Perez
from IM
BUNNEH
- Simon Wicks
NOPE AND NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
No soup for u today! Get back end of line!
- imabonehead
RONG.
- Steven Perez
WORD WORD
- Steven Perez
Would you like a milk shake to go with your WORD, sir?
- imabonehead
Nope, pancakes.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What about omlettes?
- Sparky
*snarky comment*
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
*spanking for Kaia*
- Steven Perez
from IM
winner of most commented upon thread, ever, +1111 mr perez, ;)
- chaz2b
i'm new here
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
ICE CREAM N CAKE N CAKE?
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Yep.
- Steven Perez
Sleepy.
- Steven Perez
Doing 100 jumping jacks will make you less sleepy, sir.
- imabonehead
from Android
That will also make me barf.
- Steven Perez
from IM
last word.
- Mattb4rd
is mine.
- Steven Perez
from IM
DYSP DY!
- Mattb4rd
I've heard that before.
- Steven Perez
from IM
All the time, I hear it.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Everything.
- Steven Perez
ln -s Everything /dev/null
- imabonehead
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
- Steven Perez
To err is human, to human is to err, but to be bunneh is purely Steven Perez.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
NOPE. NOT A BUNNEH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
So sayeth thine who is accused.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
YEP. NOT A BUNNEH. #NOTABUNNEH
- Steven Perez
from IM
I see no proof there - #PEREZISABUNNEH #PROOF
- Tsali, The Native of FF
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE. #NOTABUNNEH #NEVERBEENABUNNEH #AINTNEVERGONNABEABUNNEH
- Steven Perez
from IM
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Um, no.
- Steven Perez
why no
- Janet
Cuz.
- Steven Perez
Happy Labor Day! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
It was, until the day went POOF.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven a bunneh dies every time your name is at the bottom of this comment list! Save the bunnehs please!
- Janet
Really?
- Steven Perez
from IM
pssszzzzzzzzzth, the sound of another senseless bunneh death
- Janet
Where?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Who???
- Roberto Bonini
That's what I was asking Janet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Missed you big guy...
- Janet
I missed you, too, my little strawberry of love. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
Breaking News.. More Bunnehs die. :(
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Good thing I'm not a bunneh. #notabunnehunlessabeautifulwomantellsmefacetofacethatiam
- Steven Perez
from IM
grep "BUNNEH" Steven\ Perez
- imabonehead
ERROR: STEVEN PEREZ IS NOT A BUNNEH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yes, it is aN error that Steve Perez is not a Bunneh, because HE IS A BUNNEH!
- WorldofHiglet
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
NOPE. NOPE. NOPE.
- Steven Perez
SECOND!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
LAST.
- Steven Perez
THERE.
- Jimminy Fuller
LAST WORD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
werd.
- imabonehead
Just.
- Jimminy Fuller
LAST. WORD.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Perez!!!!!
- Jimminy Fuller
BUNNEH!
- Bryce Roney
NOT.
- Steven Perez
from IM
A.
- Steven Perez
from IM
BUNNEH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
return of the BUNNEH.
- imabonehead
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
Define the term: "last word," please.
- .LAG liked that
...werd...
- Jimminy Fuller
I always imagined the last word would be in 'I think we are save in the shed'
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
True peace and security.
- Eric Logan
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Is "NOPE" all you can say?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
hee hee.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ha
- Craig Eddy
#notabunneh
- Steven Perez
from IM
#bunnehrumorsaboutstevenperezarefalsestories
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hmm... Search came back empty for that tag.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
#isabunneh
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Bunnehs are the tastiest!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
they're hiding john ;)
- Nicholas James
rthur L. Coope
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Huh?
- Steven Perez
from Android
Wha?
- James (!?)
whut?
- Imabug
That's what I said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Who?
- James (!?)
JACK BURTON. ME.
- Steven Perez
from IM
So anyway, I was like, "Fuck yo couch."
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
And then what happened?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Whaaa—?
- James (!?)
So she said, "Girl, I wasn't sick! I was poisoned! And the man that did it is in this room!"
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
And then what?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Whaaaa—t?
- James (!?)
DOH!
- Steven Perez
from Android
Does 'doh! count as a word? Is it in the dictionairy?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
forealz.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
WEV.
- Steven Perez
from Android
Hawt times in the ole town 2 nite - hawt cha cha cha
- L Stephen Cleary
It is quite humid, actually.
- Steven Perez
from Android
*waves back*
- Steven Perez
from IM
Hi Steven
- Alex Scoble
O HAI, ALEX. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
THIS AGAIN?
- Sparky
How's it going?
- Alex Scoble
It's not like it ever ended, Sparky.
- Alex Scoble
Wet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Dripping wet.
- Sparky
It never ends, Sparky..
- Steven Perez
from IM
And muddy, too.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You mean it never ends until someone else gets the last word.
- Sparky
he who speaks last, talks slowest
- Mike Chelen
Pics or the muddy didn't happen.
- Sparky
Not now. I'm in bed. Maybe tomorrow.
- Steven Perez
from IM
*fist bump from bed*
- Sparky
Well, I say "bed" when I really mean "couch". Housesitting can be a real drag.
- Steven Perez
from IM
No dogs.
- Steven Perez
Meow.
- Steven Perez
rawr!
- imabonehead
Rawr rawr!
- Steven Perez
punt
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Score! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
That is 7 hrs Stefan. Have you cried Uncle Mati? ;-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
5.30pm: more coffee.
- Ian May
I'm all for that.
- Steven Perez
from IM
What???
- Roberto Bonini
*burp*
- Santa CW™
OMG NOT THIS AGAIN ... oh, wait ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I request to have the last word on the 16th, it would mean so much to me.
- Janet
OK.
- Steven Perez
from IM
wooh after 1114 comments.. still going.. coolio..
- Simply Teeeya
That's what I say. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
gotta give it to ya.. you really do have the last word it seems..
- Simply Teeeya
Yes, I do. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
quite an achievement :)
- Simply Teeeya
happy 1 month anni. :)
- chaz2b
lol! one month!
- Simply Teeeya
YAY! ONE MONTH!
- Steven Perez
*yawns* wuteva
- Ladybug Heather
Bah on your wev.
- Steven Perez
How many vampire's have you decimated in battle?
- Jimminy Fuller
40 billion.
- Steven Perez
from IM
40 billion.
- Steven Perez
cash???
- Roberto Bonini
Kanye?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
i like milfs
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Me, too.
- Steven Perez
from IM
How many milfs would a bunneh milf if a bunneh could milf milfs?
- Sparky
Hard to say. #notabunneh
- Steven Perez
from IM
You meant #totallyisabunneh - it's a common typo.
- Sparky
Nope. Used a spell checker and everything. #sototallynotabunneh
- Steven Perez
from IM
wordy, word, word...
- Fossil Huntress
WORD.
- Steven Perez
I had a 2 week break from FF...and you STILL haven't got the last word :p
- Patrik Johansson
O RLY?
- Steven Perez
BUNNEH!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
#notabunneh
- Steven Perez
LAST :)
- Nicholas James
word
- Simply Teeeya
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yes it is........................:)
- Nicholas James
YEP.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You betcha!
- CAJ, somewhere else
YAH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
No, srsly!
- CAJ, somewhere else
SRSLY?
- Steven Perez
from IM
YEAH
- Nicholas James
Did you fart?
- Ian May
Not yet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
when is the last word ,,,
- johnpiercy
When I say.
- Steven Perez
When you admit you're #TotallyABunneh.
- Ladybug Heather
nope.
- Steven Perez
When you say what ?
- johnpiercy
waves :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
*waves back*
- Steven Perez
I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish but BUNNEH PEREZ HAS ONE OF THE BEST LAST WORD'S OF ALL TIME!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Thank you, Z. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
You wish. It is I who gets the last word. Ask my hubby
- @CrystalinaB
Yes, but I'm not your hubby. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm scared to open the thread to see who bunneh is responding to. There I said it. Bunneh!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
NOT BUNNEH.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Suuuuure. You keep saying that. But I don't believe it.
- Jason Huebel
NO TE CREO!!!
- Anna Haro
PERO NO SOY UN CONEJO!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Good Luck, wait I won....woohoo
- Ray H
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
Is that so?
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Maybe. Ask me again later, and I might give you the last word. If, you know, you gave us a stripey socks photo. Just sayin'.
- Steven Perez
The question of the day is: To be or not to be!
- imabonehead
The answer of the day is: mebbe.
- Steven Perez
Darn. I got it wrong. I had '12 yellow wilderbeasts'
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
cabbages
- Simon Wicks
A baby's arm holding an apple!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
What?
- Steven Perez
I bet Scoble wishes he had thought of this. :)
- Mattb4rd
He doesn't have the patience to keep something like this.
- Steven Perez
from IM
*yawns* *scratches knee* *gets back to work*
- Ladybug Heather
Whut?
- Steven Perez
Now that I have achieved status of half-centurian, I request the next 50 days of last word in honor of my achievement of breathing.
- Janet
Well, well, well. Has it been 50 days already?
- Steven Perez
89, but who's counting? ;)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Ah, but I promised Janet that she could have the last word for 50 days. And now that this time has passed, I have the last word. Again.
- Steven Perez
Not yet.
- Alex Scoble
YEP.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Your lips are flapping, but you aren't saying anything.
- Alex Scoble
As usual.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
But I still have the last word.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Not yet.
- Alex Scoble
Yup.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Not yet.
- Alex Scoble
Um, yup.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I don't know in what country you live in that not having the last word means you have the last word, but umm ok...NOT!
- Alex Scoble
nope
- Jan Ole Peek
You'd have to break all of our fingers, toes and remove our tongues and eyeballs to ever truly get last word on this thread.
- Alex Scoble
Nope.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nope exactly.
- Alex Scoble
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Eventually, the whole thread will go backwards to the beginning.
- WorldofHiglet
That sounds like more fun than I imagine you wanted it to.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nope. All things end,
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
You mean, I went backwards? Poo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
This thread is like Frankenstein. It keeps coming back to life.
- Kevin Pedraja
Sometimes when you play in the mud you get your dingy dirty.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Why would you drag a boat into mud?
- Steven Perez
from IM
To be last on this thread, obviously.
- Alex Scoble
You get awful tired doing that.
- Steven Perez
from IM
gimme an A
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
B
- Ian May
Z. I win.
- Steven Perez
V
- Jimminy Fuller
A
- Jimminy Fuller
S
- Jimminy Fuller
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
E
- Jimminy Fuller
L
- Jimminy Fuller
nyar wobbles potatoes snip snip flaboigan flargin pooooooooooosessssssssions KITTAH!
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I
- Jimminy Fuller
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
totally.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
There? Where? Under the stair! A little mouse with clogs on...
- Ian May
Where wolf? There wolf.
- Steven Perez
from IM
oh snap.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
You will get this.
- Ian May
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Interim Annotation
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Additional Addendum
- Steven Perez
from IM
Post Additional Addendum Addendum
- The Letter M
1203 comments, come on, you can do better than that.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad.
- Steven Perez
from IM
shut down?
- Ian May
Yes, by request. Janet wanted to have the last word for 50 days. I did.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Education, Sections 1078-1-1100
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
NO SECRET CODES.
- Steven Perez
What about the Konami code?
- Sparky
UP UP DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT A B X START
- Steven Perez
Hey, that's cheating :-)
- Slappy Line
from Android
No, this is cheating: UP DOWN LEFT DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT DOWN DOWN DOWN LEFT UP RIGHT B A START
- Steven Perez
Holy cow, y'all are still encouraging him with this?
- Ladybug Heather
chee
- Ian May
TING!
- Ian May
I dare not hit the more comments
- VAL D. Zone
Me, too. And it's my thread.
- Steven Perez
from IM
yes, it's his thread.
- Ian May
(2000
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
WOULD YOU LIKE A TREATMENT?
- Steven Perez
from IM
omg...i just read all that!!!
- Asif
Yikes!
- Laura wishes you peace.
fascinating
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Hawt Hawt Hawt :->) Wondered when this one would PoP back onTHElines
- L Stephen Cleary
11378838@N00
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
OU812
- Steven Perez
Phuh sheezy!
- Alex Scoble
BRICK. HAAWSE.
- Steven Perez
RAWHIDE!
- Joe Pierce
AIR DROP http://friendfeed.com/chaz2b...
- chaz2b
3124 Linden st
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
I thought this would one day end, with Steven having the last word. But I now know this thread will live untill 2012. At least.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
This thread will continue on until the year 4217.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
no, 2012.
- अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :)
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Nope.
- Steven Perez
Word.
- Laura wishes you peace.
Recognize.
- Jason Huebel
Whut?
- Steven Perez
fo realz?
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Huh?
- Steven Perez
thats what she said
- chaz2b
when did this turn into Beavis and Butthead?
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
thats what he said
- chaz2b
Say what?
- Steven Perez
Ni.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Ni huh?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Maybe I'm one of the knights who say that.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
No you don't!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Maybe you smell of elderberries.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wrong thread. http://friendfeed.com/didjita...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Ah, right thread. In that thread, it's asked what you think you smell like. In this thread, I told you what I think you smell like.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Employment, Hours, and Earnings
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
Cilantro, Strawberries, and Chilaquiles.
- Steven Perez
Ginger, cherries and creme brulee.
- Alex Scoble
If you say one more word Steven I will ban you from friendfeed.
- @CrystalinaB
So I won't say that label that you said I couldn't say anymore. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
I always do what Crystalina says. I don't want to be blocked. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
blockedy blockedy blocked
- Alex Scoble
Jumane Redway
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
where?
- Ian May
12.23 12.23 12.23
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
I think it is.
- Ian May
I SAID NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 20899862803482
- Joe Pierce
NO PI FOR YOU !!
- Eric Logan
WHAT YOU SAY?
- Steven Perez
3.14 and so on... on 22 over 7 if you like to think fractionally.
- Ian May
NOPE. 22/7.
- Steven Perez
Werd.
- imabonehead
from Android
NOPE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Negatory on that NOPE, sir.
- imabonehead
from Android
Huh What?
- Steven Perez
from IM
mmmmm. pie
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
I LIKE PIE.
- Steven Perez
Hey, wait a minute, I like pie!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
SO SAY WE ALL.
- Steven Perez
Grand
- Mitch
Oh, my head.
- Steven Perez
Take some advil.
- Sparky
from iPhone
I did. I should stop banging my head on the bed frame.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
- Ian May
Hard to say; I usually swallow my gum.
- Steven Perez
Ew
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Better than ending up in my hair again.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That's true
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
OK, tell me why you think you deserve the last word, and I'll let you have the last word and close this thread permanently.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Because I'm pretty?
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Anyone else?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nope.
- Jason Huebel
Poop.
- Steven Perez
nope.
- imabonehead
I think this has lasted long enough. We already know what has to be the last word, it's already in the original quote. I will put it as the closing comment. I think we will all feel relieved we can now carry on to do greater things. For ourselves, our loved ones and the world.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
So there.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
And there!
- Adrian Scicluna
And take that!
- Adrian Scicluna
And that!
- Adrian Scicluna
Huh?
- Steven Perez
no :o
- Nia
Turkey City Lexicon – A Primer for SF Workshops - http://www.sfwa.org/2009...
This manual is intended to focus on the special needs of the science fiction workshop. Having an accurate and descriptive critical term for a common SF problem makes it easier to recognize and discuss. This guide is intended to save workshop participants from having to “reinvent the wheel” (see section 3) at every session.
- Tristan Seligmann
The importance of saying “Hi” - http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009...
"While I’ll take your word for it that “saying hi” is important, that still doesn’t really get me any closer to understanding how to actually do this. Part of the problem is that I don’t identify at all; when people “say hi” to me, I find it completely awkward / irritating / alienating; as such, when I’m trying to do the same to others, I have no internal measure of whether I’m actually succeeding or not, and it usually seems like I do more “damage” than if I just avoided making the attempt in the first place. It seems like people don’t understand how confusing / difficult this is for people like me; I can’t make any sense at all out of what Daniel says further up, for example. I don’t avoid social interaction (people who know me can attest that I’m a pretty intensely social person, despite the difficulties I have with social interaction), and I’m an ambivert; the problem is just that I don’t understand the forms of social interaction that are being discussed here at all."
- Tristan Seligmann
DO ANYBODY NO_____(FILL IN THE BLANK)
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DO ANYBODY NO WHEN I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER?
- Steven Perez
DO ANYBODY NO WHAT TIME IT IS ?
- Eric Logan
DO ANYBODY NO REGRETS! ... er ... I mean ...
- Matthew Horton
DO ANYBODY NO THE MUFFIN MAN???
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
DO ANYBODY NO WHO DAT IS?
- Carlton Hackett
DO ANYBODY NO ENGLISH?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
DO ANYBODY NO ANYBODY DO
- Mo Kargas
DO ANYBODY NO WHY PEOPLE AT MY JOB IS SO LAZY
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
DO ANYBODY NO NOBODY
- Eivind
DO ANYBODY NO WHO ATE ALL DA CHEERIOS
- Steven Perez
from IM
DO ANYBODY NO WHY THIS PHRASING ROOLS SO MUCH
- Rochelle
DO ANYBODY NO Y DOBY NAO D?
- Daniel Bruce
do anybody no what i dont?
- chaz2b
(Chaz, you did it wrong.)
- Rochelle
DO ANYBODY NO "NO, NO NANETTE"?
- Spidra Webster
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE SAN JOSE AT?
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE MY HAT IS AT?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
WHY THERE IS NO YOGURTLAND IN VIRGINIA?
- pea
DO ANYBODY NO HOW DO I SHOT WEB?
- Jemm
DO ANYBODY NO ONY DO BY NAOD?
- Lucas Parker
Do anybody no where my motivation at?
- Ladybug Heather
@Eric: Do anybody really care.... about time?
- Ladybug Heather
DO ANYBODY NO WHY YOU AINT USING AKIVA-CAPS?
- Steven Perez
from IM
DO ANYBODY NO OR DO ANYBODY NOT NO? DATS THE KWESH-CHUN STRAIGHT UP.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
DO ANYBODY NOM NOM NOM
- Edward Zwart
DO ANYBODY NO DO RUN RUN A DO RUN RUN?
- Steve C
DO ANYBODY NO DA TROUBLES I SEEN
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
DO ANYBODY NO HOW THINGS IS IN GLOCCA MORRA?
- Laura wishes you peace.
DO ANYBODY NO WHEN I CAN TAP THAT?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
DO ANYBODY NO THE TROUBLES I SEEN?
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
DO ANYBODY NO THE MUFFIN MAN?
- Joe Pierce
DO ANYBODY NO HOW FUCKEN RE TO GO I AM
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE MY PANTS IS!?
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE'S PENGUIN'S CRIB?
- Josh Haley
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE MY MIND WENT??
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
DO ANYBODY NO HARM
- Gee Ranasinha
DO ANYBODY NO EVIL ©
- Anton
DO ANYBODY, FIND ME, SOMEONE TO LOVE. ANYBODY. FIND ME. SOMEONE TO LOVE...
- Morgan Haley
IS ANYONE COGNIZANT OF... (damn!) IS THERE SOMEONE WHO IS AWARE...(shoot!) PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF... (OK, this is much harder than you guys make it look.)
- s t e v e
DO ANYBODY NO BO NOES BASSBALL STILL?
- Micah Wittman
DO ANYBODY NO ANY REASON WHY THESE TWO PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE WED? *than forever hold your peace.
- Christopher Harley
DO ANYBODY NO WHERE THIS MEME STARTED?
- Tristan Seligmann
lol. this comes up in the search results for DO ANYBODY NO on google.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
DO ANYBODY NO IS THIS A MAN
- Andrizzle Gizzle
DO ANYBODY NO THIS BITCH GONNA GET HER NECK PUNCHED
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
DO ANYBODY NO HOW MUCH YOU TWO CRACK ME UP
- Yolanda
Is this what they call ebonics? LMAO
- orionstarr
from iPhone
DO ANYBODY NO HOW TO TELL THIS FOOL HE BETTER NOT START WITH ME TODAY
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
no how to delete this ;)
- ffcode
So, so new to FF. >.>
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How old are you, Lisa?
- Nitin Nanivadekar
Hi, Lisa.
- joey
Hi Lisa! Welcome to FF!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Hi lisa!!! You gorgeous woman!
- @CrystalinaB
Hey, welcome to the madhouse, err, community :)
- Tristan Seligmann
hola!
- Call me Bronco
Welcome!
- cecily
I'm 18 and thankyou for all of the lovely comments you've all left me. =D
- Lisa Gamboa
Welcome aboard!
- Steve Lowe
Thanks =D
- Lisa Gamboa
What the hell. I pressed the button for a free Diet Coke and the machine gave me a free Coke Zero! DAY = RUINED
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Try again and put that one in the fridge!
- joey
that's an upgrade!
- holly
I bet a counterburger would make it all better! ;)
- Liana Shanes
You should try your luck at the ATM!
- Jemm
*HUGGGGG*
- Sparky
Agree with Holly. You went from nasty to tasty. Diet Coke is hideous. Coke Zero is delicious.
- Nathan Chase
Dude that's a serious upgrade. Holly is so right! Coke Zero 4eva!
- Michelle Jones
I'm sorry, but Zero is way better than Diet.
- Chieze Okoye
Aren't they exactly the same drink but in different packaging?
- Amy
Amy, no, they actually changed the formula/sweetener in Zero to "taste more like regular Coke."
- Chieze Okoye
Special investigator Joshua Haley has been assigned to your case, sir. Please remain calm (while he finishes his real D. Coke).
- Micah Wittman
I think one has aspartame and the other doesn't? Or one has more than the other with something else?
- Rodfather
I think they're both aspartame-based, just different flavouring.
- Tristan Seligmann
Zero has aspartame and acesulfame potassium. AND RULES ALL.
- holly
Mexican Coke or nothing!
- Rodfather
Chieze: Innnnnteresting! I'll need to do a taste-test. :)
- Amy
Oh HELL no!
- Josh Haley
I assumed you were joking, but need to confirm: do you really prefer Diet Coke over Coke Zero?
- Mistletoe Glen
This reminds me of the time I failed to get my driver's license. There were people throwing free cans of coke zero at people on the street. Naturally, I took one because it was free, but it just tasted like the disappointment I felt.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Someone told me that Coke Zero causes cancer, while Light/Diet doesn't. Might be an urban myth, but I prefer to drink Diet ever since then.
- Vincent van Wylick
Hey...you know what's worse than Coke Zero? CHERRY Coke Zero.
- suzanne
Coke Zero sucks compared to Diet Coke. Trust me, I'm a true addict.
- Louis Gray
what?? Coke Zero is way better than Diet Coke. The lines have been drawn.
- Chieze Okoye
Coke Zero is a hideous monstrosity. Some day in the future, it will be on one of those lists of disastrous products that nobody can believe ever existed. http://ff.im/9aYb8
- Bren -- feeling merry
Yeah, if we're chosing up sides I'm on the Coke Zero Team.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I wonder if it's like that bitter/tasteless gene thing. I've always thought Diet Coke was seriously nasty, even before Coke Zero came out. Coke Zero IMHO tastes basically like sugared Coke to me; my preferable. I wonder if there's a genetic basis, or if people just simply prefer the nastiness.
- Mistletoe Glen
Zero beats Diet, but I prefer Diet Coke w/Splenda over either one. Or Diet RC/Diet Rite, also with Splenda. And of the vile brew called "Diet Pepsi", we shall not speak.
- Kevin Shaum
Coke zero is horrible. Diet coke is marginally better. Diet pepsi rulllllllles
- Andrizzle Gizzle
the time I tried Coke Zero, it didn't taste like anything. It was basically phosphoric acid-flavored, carbonated water. Yuck.
- Bren -- feeling merry
You're all wrong. Diet anything is yuck.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
+1 for m9m
- Curtiss Grymala
Zero is awesome. It at least resembles regular Coke.
- Kamilah Gill
Coke Zero is WAAAAY better than Diet Coke. It has a slightly lemony flavor but otherwise tastes like regular Coke. I will drink Diet Coke if that's all that's offered but I'll take Zero over Diet every time. Of course, Diet Dr Pepper is better than all of them. Also @Vincent van Wylick - the rumors about Diet Coke causing cancer (with aspartame) have been around a lot longer than the...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
What Louis said. The man brings SCIENCE.
- Josh Haley
mmmmmmdiet dr. pepper
- suzanne
Black coffee. No sugar. All the caffeine.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
+1 more for m9m.
- Curtiss Grymala
lol, +1 m9m. And yes, Lindsay, Diet Dr. Pepper is much better than all of them (their ad is totally true, it DOES taste more like regular Dr. Pepper). Diet Pepsi can crawl back to the level of Hell that spawned such a monstrosity.
- Chieze Okoye
Zero >>> Diet. I hope you gave that machine a reach around.
- Matthew DeVries
Mozy says that they will give you unlimited backup storage for $4.95 per month. So I've got maybe 12TB of data (mostly photos and music). I can't imagine they'd store all that (plus a rapidly daily growing image library) for only $60 per year. What's the catch?
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The catch, of course, is upstream bandwidth. It might take you a year to upload 12TB of data to Mozy; it took me more than a week to upload my 45G of data.
- Mistletoe Glen
i was thinking about this very thing this morning. My bet is that the vast majority of users use far less than you. Sort of like a long tail in reverse. With all of Mozy's users taken into account, the costs even out.
- Roberto Bonini
Glen: whats your upload bandwidth like??
- Roberto Bonini
I'm not sure that's such a big catch. I've got uVerse fiber service which seems pretty fast. Even if it took a long time, as long as it was being done in the background and not disruptive it would seem possible to do. So I'd likely be unprofitable for Mozy but maybe a necessary unprofitability in order for them to market unlimited storage to more profitable accounts? I wonder if there is any fine print or anything where they'd renege on the unlimited storage offer.
- Thomas Hawk
I wonder if I'd somehow be throttled by Mozy or AT&T if I tried to send them 12TB of data.
- Thomas Hawk
I have 2.5Tb here. if i could fill up a few hard drives and send it to them, it would make much more sense.
- Roberto Bonini
It would seem to make more sense initially to send hard drives in the mail like that to them Roberto, but I don't see mailing hard drives as an option with them. I don't think the service was designed with people like me in mind though so I'm wondering if it would be a pain in the ass to try and use it. Does anyone using it know how it works? Do you have to manually initiate uploads or...
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- Thomas Hawk
I have a 1Mbit upload connection.
- Mistletoe Glen
You tell it what to include and it will do it on a schedule or whenever your computer is idle for some specified number of minutes. You can also set it to throttle your bandwidth.
- Mistletoe Glen
does it synch folders, so if I move stuff around on primary storage will it also move it around in the cloud?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas: yeah, thats what I meant. Initially. Glen: Not bad. :)
- Roberto Bonini
Unlimited accounts are for 'personal' use only. MozyPro is for business/commercial user: * Desktop Licenses: $3.95 + $0.50/GB per month. * Server Licenses: $6.95 + $0.50/GB per month. MozyHome, in the Terms, they don't seem to have any fine print that limits your storage, however they (of course) reserve the right to change their terms at any time.
- Joel Tanner
Mine would be personal use... I think I might actually try it. It would be interesting to see how it went. Since I've got more personal storage than 99.999% of the people out there if they could do a good job with my stuff they could probably handle just about anyone. I suspect it might not go as smoothly for me though. Will have to give the idea some thought this week.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - you might be interested in this thread: http://friendfeed.com/bluecoc... I have half a terrabyte on Mozy now. The "catch" is that you pretty much always have to have that box connected because if you accidentally sync when it's not connected it will mark the files as "deleted". They'll "come back" when you sync again but...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
it'd be much better to simply buy a new HDD every so often, fill it with a nice backup and send it off to an offsite data storage house. Have the HDD's in a rotation so that you get some of them back every month and you can plop them into a HDD caddy, check they're ok and update that backup.
- alphaxion
Lindsey, that's a good thread. Thanks for sharing that. I forgot about that one of yours. It seems like maybe it's not as easy as one might think. Still I think I might check it out. $60 per year seems cheap. Assuming it doesn't hurt the performance on the machine. I really only use my Dell for storage and as a media center PC and do everything else on my Mac. It might make for a few interesting blog posts on the service if nothing else.
- Thomas Hawk
Right now I do have drobos which replicate data and many of my files and offsite hard drives with family/friends with many of my images and music. I also have 30,000+ of my finished images stored on Flickr/Zooomr, etc. But my RAW files are not backed up as well as they should be right now and maybe Mozy could be just one more leg of a backup strategy.
- Thomas Hawk
Thats for reminding me of that thread lindsay. Thomas: SmugVault??
- Roberto Bonini
I looked at smugvault when it first launched, and it was insanely expensive, at least it would have been for my storage needs. Best I could tell they were simply remarketing S1 and marking it up. I might be wrong though and maybe should revisit it. Do they let you store unlimited data for $60 per year though?
- Thomas Hawk
from iPhone
No, SmugVault charges S3 rates plus markup, as I recall.
- Tristan Seligmann
Prices here: http://www.smugmug.com/price... Quick back of the envelope calculation. My 150gb's multiplied by 22 cents (0.22) = $33 plus $1 recurring charge = $34.
- Roberto Bonini
I have backups on S3, but I'm selective because of price per GB per month. I also wanted a flat rate strategy to get virtually all my files without having to think too much about it. I recently tried backblaze and I'm sticking with it (for a year at least). Here's their policy on external hard drives: https://www.backblaze.com/edrive... . One thing that attracted me was that...
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- Micah Wittman
I think it would cost me over $2,000 per year to store all of my data at SmugVault. Too expensive. Especially when compared to $60 per year from Mozy. Backblaze is $60 per year as well for unlimited it looks like. I wonder which is better Mozy or Backblaze.
- Thomas Hawk
It takes you a year to update a few gigs to Mozy, so 12TB would take a lifetime.
- Mike Reynolds
hmmmm.. that's good to know Mike. A year for a few gigs? I wonder if that's at slow upload speeds or if the problem is more on Mozy's end.
- Thomas Hawk
No it doesn't take a year... I uploaded about 250GB in 3-4 weeks (running in idle time when I wasn't home)... I have almost 500GB up there now... One thing to keep in mind though: I have had some issues on my box recently (freezing, locking up... not responding to anything but reboot) and have suspected it had something to do with the Mozy client. I haven't been able to pinpoint the culprit yet, but considering the stuff I had running when these issues happen it's a likely candidate.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
You're right, Lindsay, it wouldn't take a year: it would take 3 years. 250G every 3 weeks would be about 4.3 Terabytes annually, assuming you keep the uploads running at that same rate.
- Mistletoe Glen
It doesn't "take a year to update a few gigs to Mozy" was the point I was refuting. Yes, Thomas has significantly more data to backup than I do or most people do, so it probably would take him a long time, most likely about as long as you derived, Glen.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Nice to see some good comments for Backblaze; I have been leaning towards that service, but have also been reading up on two others: Livedrive ( https://signup.livedrive.com/ ) and CrashPlan ( http://www5.crashplan.com/consume... ). Livedrive looks really promising, despite it's higher cost. The FB, Flickr & SmugMug aspects of Livedrive, as well as file sync ability,...
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- JA Castillo
I left Mozy for Backblaze. Mozy was slow, it was difficult to see a file status, and I did have trouble with the connection. Backblaze also has unlimited storage at $5 month. Their UI is superior to Mozy and it backs up app data.
- Russellreno
Russell did you find that Backblaze transferred files faster than Mozy did?
- Thomas Hawk
The big gotcha at Backblaze is the high cost to recover files. It seems to me both services will only back up files on one drive, and will not find networked drives.
- Russellreno
I didn't really notice a difference in transfer speed but I did not have a good comparison either. I did use Mozy with UVerse. Mozy might throttle the transfer speed. I suggest you do a trial with Mozy for one week then Backblaze for a week. That order would allow BB to continue after one week because I think you will like to better. Check the cost of recovery for both services.
- Russellreno
@Russellreno - Mozy backs up data on more than one drive... I have it backing up data on 4 different drives on one computer. They're not network drives but 3 are external.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Mozy uses EMC's Avamar as it's back-end. Avamar employs data de-duplication at the bit level and can definitely find commonality even in compressed images -- most certainly RAW. 2 of these just reduced our backup time majorly and turned 5-6 hour backup jobs into under an hour at the most after the initial backup.
- Shmoe
I love Backblaze. They also backup external drives - anything it sees as a networked drive on your system. As far as the cost to recover all the data in the event of a full system crash, yea, I'd rather pay anyone to get DVDs shipped out than to wait for 12 TB of data to come back down the pipe.
- Criz
I'm all for backblaze.com, Criz (see my comment above) but as far as I understand it, backblaze allows firewire/usb connected drives but not NAS devices - "Network (NAS) drives, remotely mounted computers or volumes, or shared volumes do not get backed up."
- Micah Wittman
hmmm.. seems like folks like backblaze more than Mozy. May have to give them the first shot.
- Thomas Hawk
How do you manage this now?
- Nitin Nanivadekar
May I just ask how you manage that massive amount of Data for photos and music? I've got like 200 GB on stuff and always have issues with the managing..
- Jaap Willem
I didn't have a great experience with Mozy. The app for Mac didn't work well, and after several weeks of running it had only managed to back up 5% of my files. A quick survey of various Mac forums confirmed that this was a common problem.
- Luke Ibis
i'm thinking of trying BackBlaze for the long fact I have various machines.
- Edgar Rodríguez
The service is good. I once thought it had lost everything bit I reinstalled the app and it recognised the stuff it had already done. You can start and stop a any time and it remembers. Inthe day when lightroom was flaky I got a fair few backups from Mozy. Check how much it would cost to ship that back to you though; might fill a few DVDs. Obviusly web restore is free but 12tb might...
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- Phill Price
from iPhone
Phil: A moved file isn't uploaded the second time. BB just changes the directory. That was another selling point for me.
- Russellreno
Personally, Comcast caps me at 250 GB a month. So that's a minimum of four months just to upload my photos. Then, should I ever need to recover, another four months to get it back. It's a great concept, but backing up to the cloud just isn't viable for large amounts of data. Currently I shuffle external hard drives back and forth to my desk at work.
- Eric P
Thomas, you can always be pro-active about your doubts -- tell them and offer to give them an endorsement if you *are* happy in the end. Your concerns are justified, and I think they'll appreciate them and at least be straight with you as to whether they can afford your business :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Russell - I'm using Mozy not backblaze - but thanks
- Phill Price
What would Opt-out coding that would allow content creators to block being bit.ly'd do the internet?
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Would it be good? Bad? What if they could do it service by service? Yes I can be tinyurl'd but I cannot be bit.ly'd ?
- Matthew DeVries
As a content owner, you don't own your URL, even if you make it private. A URL shortener does not impact your content, only the display of your URL, so this wouldn't be valuable. Assuming this were possible, you would have to block/ban your domain with bit.ly and say you have a preferred URL shortener. I don't see why this would be good at all, unless you made money from another one.
- Louis Gray
As it stands now, referral logs don't show bit.ly as a referrer, so you couldn't say "block" referrers from bit.ly, as the URL is lengthened prior to the visit.
- Louis Gray
I like it when I bit.ly something and then someone else reshares it with a different bit.ly URL. I wonder if they could daisy chain the stats so we could track 2nd-order clicks born through our original links?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
bit.ly has stats broken down per individual URL, as well as aggregate stats for all shortened URLs pointing at the same destination; is this not what you meant?
- Tristan Seligmann
That sounds like what I wanted Tristan. I looked this morning and I was somewhat confused by the numbers I saw. I'll check again. EDIT: Ok now I get it. X clicks to my link out of Y total bitly clicks to the destination.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I can understand the desire to block alternative shortening services like this *if* you run your own shortener and want your stats all in one place. Example, wp.me shortens the entirety of wordpress.com. If all services would read the rel=shortlink on a page and use that instead, then there'd be no need for blocking others, or wanting an opt-out.
- Otto
I could also seeing people who compete with Twitter wanting the break the ability of the Twitter-blessed services from sending their content.
- Matthew DeVries
The internet runs because of links. If it would break those links it would break the internet.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, I don't see people getting excited about using a service that breaks other people's links. Edit: I'm sure there's a great example out there waiting to make me look bad.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Oh, I'm by no means proposing such a product or devising some kind of nefarious business model, but I'm trying to probe just how much power the shorteners have.
- Matthew DeVries
The technology behind Tornado, FriendFeed's web server - Bret Taylor's blog - http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
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We have open sourced our web server. Download it at http://www.tornadoweb.org/. Check out the Facebook announcement at http://developers.facebook.com/news...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
See a live chat demo: http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/
- Casey Muller
*have no idea what I am looking at*
- Joe
Wow! Thanks so much, Bret and co!
- Doug Beeferman
this was very interesting; good job
- RAPatton
neat
- anna sauce
I wonder what the engineering decision was to not use a WSGI interface.
- mikepk
mikepk: it supports WSGI, but it is not WSGI by default because WSGI does not support non-blocking I/O for things like hanging connections. See http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen....
- Bret Taylor
This actually is a very good piece of code! Thanks folks!
- directeur
cool, Bret, thanks :) I was just heading through the docs now.
- mikepk
Thanks for doing this, Bret! That's some pretty cool stuff.
- Keith Bourgoin
that's great. thanks..
- Onur Gündüz
oh man, this is so awesome, thanks guys!
- Charles Ying
Is "tonado" a typo?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm hacking my own python web framework at the moment, so now the choice on whether I want to switch gears to this or not. I'm liking what I see so far.
- mikepk
Bruce: Yes
- Casey Muller
Wow.. Thanks!! pretty much makes my day.. which is scary in it's own rite.
- Chris Myles
Great news! Cheers to the FF team!
- Egon Willighagen
Nice new title Brett.."Facebook Director of Products".. a good sign of things to come!
- Chris Myles
very very glad to hear this bit: "Tornado is a core piece of infrastructure that powers FriendFeed's real-time functionality, which we plan to actively maintain."
- Chris Heath
Great work
- James Myatt
does this have any implications for friendfeed.com in terms of competition and shelf-life?
- Franz Sittampalam
Franz: enables widespread adoption which leads to greater influence of the technique
- Mike Chelen
So excited this is out. So many personal projects I have been wanting to build with it :)
- Bret Taylor
Bret, do you have a set of coding conventions you use? E.g. looks like you use mixed case for classes and underbar separators for methods.
- Cristo
Fantastic, Bret (and team)!
- Micah Wittman
A very good project!...you know if will be possibile to use Tornado with other technogies except Python (such as JEE, Ruby On Rails, etc.)?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Cristo: we tried to use the official Python coding conventions, though we may have inadvertently strayed. Those conventions are: ClassNames, method_names, variable_names
- Bret Taylor
Brilliant! I hope you can provide very valuable input for the next round of #python WSGI, which desperately needs a next round ;)
- Uche Ogbuji
Re: WSGI needing help, see http://www.b-list.org/weblog...
- Uche Ogbuji
grt
- Xitong Liu
"Facebook's opensource technologies" link is broken on tornadoweb.org ..
- Onur Gündüz
Onur, worked for me - and still works now
- Chris Heath
Very cool, in case someone needs a high-end Web Server for a project, FriendFeed just open-sourced theirs, & apparently, it screams..
- Alex Schleber
Nicola: there is a Ruby example - http://gist.github.com/184760
- Mike Chelen
thx Mike, but this is a kind of eventmachine (that sounds good) for Ruby, not a Tornado client or wrapper...isn't it?
- Nicola Junior Vitto
Excellent! Thank you. Was eagerly waiting for the day to come after looking this just 1 month ago; "changeset: 5afb8a445cad / date: 2009-08-11 16:34:48 / description: Initial open source packages" http://changelog.friendfeed.com/2009...
- NaHi
from f2p
Chris, yes it is fixed.. I swear it was broken ..
- Onur Gündüz
Good catch, NaHi. :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks guys. Really appriciated.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
That's great. thanks Bret :-)
- Nimaa
Nice job on the non-blocking stuff Bret!
- Mitchell Tsai
"We have open sourced our web server" @bret took over a year but is worth the wait. thx for the follow through ~ http://bret.appspot.com/entry...
- Peter Renshaw
Ohhh, ummm, btw, your underhanded behind the scenes sell out still rankles my human decency, & a lot of others too, as should yours...thumbs down/dislike x 47.5 million dollars, however not being bitter of course, keep ignorance & bliss
- sofarsoShawn
As I expected :) brilliant
- FFTornado
that's the sound of I believe 100000000? or so hands clapping...& giving you the BOOOO-URNS if I'm not mistaken...
- sofarsoShawn
oh you sonsabitchez this fscking rules! why so badass, ff? thank. you. :)
- mike
So, can we say; Python is the future?
- Ozkan Altuner
Nice code. Started to look at it today. Thanks for doing this. Now to start testing this on some projects I had been working on.
- Altan Khendup
What OS do you guys run FF on?
- Diego Barros
Diego: we run on Linux.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret just out of curiosity - what would necessitate usage of such an engine for a *personal* project? :)
- Michael Bravo
Michael: it is a nice framework to use for any project in my opinion (though I am clearly biased). If you are doing anything real-time like the chat demo, something like Tornado is certainly necessary/useful regardless of the size of the project.
- Bret Taylor
from email
@bret and for little-sized hardware? should have try it on Maemo based :)))
- A.T.
@silpol I kinda fail to see Maemo devices being used for servers (unless it's some kind of satellite-based or other covert server maybe :) )
- Michael Bravo
from IM
@mbravo you never know... there are some unusual (and cool) apps for web servers, granted you abstain (on purpose) from classical models, e.g.server farm somewhere there and herds of clients connecting to it...
- A.T.
Bret: Cool, thanks. Just out of curiosity, which flavour of Linux is preferred by FriendFeed?
- Diego Barros
I think this is the best answer for the ultimate question: "Does python needs yet another web framework?" While most of us would say why, when one come across this, a real world proven technology, serving zillions of pages a day, one would say, well, why not. actually, why not even take it an try to integrate out next web app with it? great job! seems like joining FB won't do you any harm ;-)
- Tzury Bar Yochay
We've seen tornado vs twisted, how about tornado vs rails? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Tzury Bar Yochay
http://chan.friendfeed.com:8888/ It doesn't work. I'd like to see chat.js :)
- Анатолий Шарифулин
FriendFeed's web server, open sourced? This is great! Welcoome, Tornado!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Bret: how do you proxy long-living connections through nginx? Vanilla nginx buffers everything.
- Alex Kapranoff
nginx has a configuration option to turn off buffering.
- Tristan Seligmann
Why does everyone assume that Chris Brown is a woman beater just because he beat a woman once? Seriously...think about that.
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BECAUSE. HE BEAT. A WOMAN.
- Derrick
I tried marijuana once, does that make me a pot head?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
No, but it makes you a marijuana smoker
- Johnny Worthington
Why does everyone assume dude down at the state penn is a rapist just cause he raped a woman once? Seriously... think about it.
- Chrimmus Tad
No, but it literally makes you a drug user. How did you only do it once? Man that's how it started with me, now it's all heroin every day all day.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I only killed that guy once, DOES THAT MAKE ME A MURDERER? (and he was an ass.)
- Derrick
*ponders* I would say that the assumption is probably rooted in the psychological underpinnings of anger management and the cycle of domestic violence. By the time a person (male or female) is publicly charged with (and admits to) committing an act of domestic violence, it is (in the vast majority of cases) NOT the first time s/he has acted on the violence cycle. The comparison with pot doesn't really equate. One is to self. The other is to another person. Very different.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
He's more than a woman beater - he's a craven coward, pathetic miscreant who deserves to live the rest of his life working at McDonalds.
- Chrimmus Tad
It's easy logic, if you're a celebrity and you do something or are accused of something the public doesn't favor... you deserve the chair (Example: MJ = Child Molester, Kobe = Rapist).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Not the same thing, Tad. Also, just cuz I tried pot once doesn't mean I need an intervention.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
He apparently beat her more than once so how many times it is it acceptable to hit a woman before he is labeled a woman beater?
- pea
He apparently beat her more than once? Never heard that, pea.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It came out in the court proceedings.
- pea
It was stated at his sentencing by the judge that he beat her on at least 2 other occasions.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I'm sorry, but beating up someone weaker than you is one of the absolute LOWEST things that a man can possibly do. To do it to someone you are apparently "in love" with is even worse. He should never make another penny based on his previous celebrity.
- Chrimmus Tad
The key difference is whether an act is beyond all ethical boundaries for society. Murder, rape, physical abuse all qualify. A little weed is just a difference of opinion with antiquated laws.
- LogEx
There must have been no evidence of these other two beatings if the judge didn''t do anything about it.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
*lights incense with LE*
- Derrick
That doesn't mean they didn't happen.
- Chrimmus Tad
Guilty until proven innocent.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Not talking about the gravity of the act, just the labels. Definitely doesn't mean they didn't happen, but it doesn't mean they did, either.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
He was proven guilty - and admitted his own guilt.
- Chrimmus Tad
Rah, I'm curious...why do you feel the need to be the counterpoint for Brown? I'm all for devil's advocate, but I think this case, with him admitting it, makes it pretty clear.
- Derrick
If he admitted to beating her, then it probably happened, right?
- Chrimmus Tad
Rah, it goes back to my previous comment about Michael Vick. If I did it, it would severally effect my standings in life, my social circle and potentially effect my future earnings to the point where i could not continue with level of comfort I have become accustom to. Don't think Brown is going to be any poorer for it in the long run.
- Johnny Worthington
This topic really steams me the hell up. Civilized society is founded on protection of the weak. For a powerful man to beat someone is to show that he's not a man at all, but a beast - worthy of nothing.
- Chrimmus Tad
I used to get my ass beat by a woman on a regular basis. I could have easily defended myself, but then I would be sitting where Chris Brown is now. Actually, no. I'd be sitting in a prison cell, but everyone would still be calling me a piece of shit woman beater.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
A Scottish old timer in Scotland, in a bar, talking to a young man. The Old Man says, "Lad, look out there to the field. Do ya see that fence? Look how well it's built. I built that fence stone by stone with me own two hands. I piled it for months." "But do they call me McGreggor-the-Fence-Builder? Nooo..." Then the old man gestured at the bar. "Look here at the bar. Do ya see how...
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- Rob Haas
What would my defense be? Oh the chick hit me first? Yeah right.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh the stories I could tell here about the justice system and domestic violence. The number of people (both men AND women) who get away with some of the most atrocious acts because there were no eye witnesses and because often it's a matter of one person's word over another...it's enough to make to make your skin crawl. Seriously. Unless someone ends up bloodied or dead, then it's a matter of he said/she said.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Rah - defending yourself and beating someone up are two completely different things. I spend several hours a week working on learning to vigorously defend myself without harming whoever would be harming me.
- Chrimmus Tad
A hallmark of a man is self control.
- Chrimmus Tad
Men and women both need to know that they do not have to be in an abusive relationship. I think they were both terrible for each other. I don't think she's super awesome either.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
The judge gave him 1400 hours of community service, and instituted a restraining order and made it very clear that if he violated said order she would put him in prison. What about that is not doing anything? This isn't people throwing about a "label" on the basis of rumors on some celebrity gossip magazine or web site. This is what happened in court. How much benefit of the doubt is this man supposed to be given?
- pea
Right, and how many people know how to defend themselves without injuring the other person? I had 2 options. Hit her or throw her. Both would result in injury and I would be in jail. No questions asked.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Or leave
- Johnny Worthington
I'm just saying people need to stfu about him. Stop being so angry at him. He went to court and they ruled against him.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I know Rah - it may take me the rest of my life to learn how. It sounds like you made it out of the situation (eventually) without harming her. Not saying it was right or easy.
- Chrimmus Tad
Leaving *sounds* easy, Johnny. It's not so easy, though. Took me 13 years.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm angry at the people who'd still give an animal their money. He's not worthy.
- Chrimmus Tad
It's kind of hard to just leave when she won't let you. Or when she has you trapped in a corner and is punching you in the head. Or when she has decided she's going to cut you with something. Especially when you'd be leaving her with your child.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I never said it was easy, just an option.
- Johnny Worthington
Rah - that's NOT the situation Chris Brown was in, or even close. Don't put him in the same position that you were in. In that situation I don't think I'd hold too much against you for defending yourself even if it required hurting her. Not saying a court would agree, but there's a line that has to be drawn somewhere. Again... NOT what Chris Brown did.
- Chrimmus Tad
My issue with the Chris Brown situation is the same as with Vick. Everyone is just mad because they're celebrities and people feel like they haven't suffered enough, but that's not your place to judge people. Don't watch Vick play. Don't buy Chris Brown's album. Fine. But don't go around with all this hate in your heart for them. It's just sad to see to me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Even if Rhianna had beat him first, he had resources you never had.
- Chrimmus Tad
So it seems to me that this really isn't about Chris Brown, Rah, it's about whatever horrible situation and circumstances you were under with this person. Which are two different things.
- Derrick
How does anyone know what his situation was? It's not like he'd put it out in court. Like I said, he'd sound like a moron and everyone would laugh. Everyone acts like they were there, but none of you were.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
@Johnny: True - it is an option. However, it's not a "simple" option by any stretch of the imagination. This is an extremely complex subject...and there are any number of mitigating factors involved. Fear for self or children being just *one* factor. Toxic relationships are what they are.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
To point, Coach, I agree with you that none of us knows his heart. I'm certainly not his judge. However, I wouldn't trust him for 5 seconds - given his history...and given mine.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Again Rah, remember if he HAD been in the same position he's a filthy rich millionaire who could hire people to do what you didn't have the resources to do. It's not fair and I certainly can't relate. :( I shouldn't be so judgemental. It's hard not to. I'm sorry - I didn't see things from your point of view.
- Chrimmus Tad
All I'm saying is, none of us know why he did what he did, but we are all passing judgement as if we know the whole story and I think that's wrong. People *hate* this boy based on this incident and don't even know what sparked it. She could very well have been the aggressor and just came out with more bruises. Sure, I relate it to my situation, but I'm not blind. I just have the ability to see past "Oh, he beat a woman's ass!" and actually think about the situation.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You rail against generalizations but you're doing the same thing. I'm not mad at him because he's a celebrity. I dislike the MAN because he beat the shit out of a woman. I don't give a good goddamn how many albums he's sold. I couldn't even name on of his songs so no, this isn't me hating on a celebrity and I think it's unfair for you to dismiss everyone's feelings about this by making...
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- pea
Further, if it was a woman beating up on a man, I would dislike her as well, celebrity or not. This isn't about gender. This is about someone else physically exerting their power over someone and that's pure crap.
- pea
If I implied everyone was hating on him just because he was a celebrity, I apologize. That was not my intention. If it was a woman beating up on a man, it wouldn't be news. Period. How could a frail little woman beat on a big strong man?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
FWIW, I'm angry because I sit in a room once a week for two hours looking at women just like me who can't figure out how to put their lives back together after someone who said they loved them battered them. What he did makes me angry. Period.
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
Not all women are frail and not all men are big and strong, and besides that, physical abuse is wrong no matter for what reason or gender. I'd file charges on a woman at the drop of a hat if she assaulted me
- Chrimmus Tad
This thread has made me so angry that I'm afraid I'm unable to articulate without setting off fires.
- Derrick
Rah, I was once in a similar situation, too. One night, an insanely jealous girl I was dating went completely off on me. She slapped me, and when that didn't get the reaction she wanted, she started throwing punches. Since I was at her place, I pushed her down and backed out of the door. After I left, she took off in her car after me. The night ended when she totaled her car chasing me.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
It's not even the fact that people are upset with him over what he did, but it's the level of anger and hate that is disturbing to me. Same with Vick. People want to hang Vick. How does responding to these people's actions with anger and hate solve anything?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well, Coach, I will say that the use of words like "love" & "hate" aren't quite the same as using a word like "brilliant" (from the other day). People frequently misuse love & hate towards other people in the same way they would describe *things* - which is a nasty habit. I *HATE* lima beans for instance (and no, the lima beans didn't do anything to me other than offend my palate). I...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Vick doesn't bother me nearly as much as Brown, but both of them did things that are completely unacceptable in a civil society.
- Chrimmus Tad
What ever happened to forgiveness in our society? Why do we seek to crucify everyone, even after they've faced a court of law and judgement has been handed down? How does your grudge against someone benefit you, your life, or the world we live in? These are just things that both stories make me think about. Your negative thoughts or feelings toward another person don't hurt that person. They only hurt you.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rahsheen, very good point.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Forgiveness is also personal. It's not an arbitrary act that "society" can truly grant. This is just my position, of course. I agree with you that negative emotions against another person don't hurt the other person; they only harm the person feeling them. But forgiveness isn't easy for people who *perceive* that justice hasn't been served - and often (I'm guessing) they're identifying something personal in their own lives that they relate with - on either side of the situation.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Do you feel the same, even about serial child molesters? NOT equating what Chris Brown did with child molestation, but the question is valid.
- Chrimmus Tad
Oh Tad, that is a can of worms question...very valid question, but very different type of situation. Chris Brown & Rihanna are both adults. Serial child molesters target people who are not in a position of consent to begin with. That places the molester in a *very* different position (pun unintended).
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Tad, that is a sticky issue. In a black and white world, I would say that is a person did their time and was 'rehabilitated' then yes. But in reality this is rarely the case. No one can say for sure that someone is really 'rehabilitated' and statistics show that this is rarely the case with these types of people.
- Jeff P. Henderson
If a serial child molester did their time or whatever and came out alive after not being murdered by their fellow inmates, I wouldn't hold a grudge against them. I wouldn't wish any ill will towards them. I wouldn't forget what they did, though. I also wouldn't let them anywhere near my kids.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Exactly, Jeff. Both are crimes of "control" - that is one trait they have in common. But the dimensions of difference are not remotely comparable. Sexual predators cannot be (based on everything I've read) be rehabilitated; whereas someone with anger management/cycle of violence tendencies *can* be, if they make the conscious effort. It's like trying to equate heroine addiction to caffeine addiction...
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
(Coach - you basically just provided the same sentiment I gave where Brown is concerned. *chuckle* Once time is served and the debt "repaid" to society, I wouldn't harbor any ill...but I certainly wouldn't trust him.)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
There is so much humanity hanging out to dry in this thread, it's painful. Violence, male/female double-standards in domestic abuse, personal vs. societal justice system impedance mismatch, children caught in the middle, living through unthinkable dilemmas — it's all there and more. Like I said, painful - and deeply rooted. But at least in a forum such as this the unspoken can be said. It's critical to understanding your fellow human being; and, for some, it helps in rebuilding a life.
- Micah Wittman
Rahsheen, would you want to live next door to the convicted child molester once he had done his time? Would you want your young daughter to live next door to him? For most people the answer is no. It should be yes, but the reality of it is that people are very hesitant to forgive or to believe that these people are now safe to be around. This is the dilemma that is faced by every city once a violent sex offender is released from prison. It is happening in East Palo Alto California right now as we speak.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Society collectively shuns criminals after their punishment (imo) to show that society does not accept the behavior. It's punishment to pick up trash on the side of the highway for 150 hours, but what trust have you built by doing that? Hating someone is extreme when you don't know them, but the feeling of betrayal for supporting a celebrity and the disgust at illegal/immoral behaviors...
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- Heather
Rah's viewpoint can only come from someone that sees these people a part of his community, which is very admirable. I agree with Tad that "A hallmark of a man is self control." Repentance (or whatever you would call it) and personal improvement are other wonderful hallmarks. Human society has historically discarded people that fall outside the boundaries of acceptable behavior. Most of...
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- Marco
Micah, the problem is that the court system has this double standard built into it also. It can be a very unfair and unjust system.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I would say that sexual predators are definitely a special case and the fact that I would even be alerted or could find out that my neighbor was one based on our current laws is a whole different can of worms. On another note, does anyone realize how much better off we would be if we actually did forgive people after they'd done their time? Maybe they *would* change their behavior, knowing that they could have a new start, but most will never be redeemed.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
The problem is that many violent criminals, especially sex offenders are mentally ill and can not use common reason. So knowing that they would be forgiven and could have a new start would not be an incentive to stay clean after they had done their time.
- Jeff P. Henderson
The Smoking Gun has Brown's March arrest record: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive.... I hear where you're coming from, Rahsheen, and I feel for the circumstance that you describe, BUT somewhere between 40% and 70% of women who are killed each year are murdered by husbands or boyfriends (source: WHO; stats do not include rape). This is not forgivable. As a...
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- Yvette Ferry
Rah, you have your anecdotal evidence; I have my former roommate's, her friend's, & can get more. Stories of female aggression vs males aren't the norm. Where're HIS bruise & bite marks? Doesn't mean it didn't happen; just means your anecdote can't help CB. I think it's possible for a larger, stronger individual to restrain another w/o pummeling/biting. To be forgiven, one must desire &...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I am not trying to help CB. I'm trying to help those that are violently against him. I don't care about Brown either.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'm not sure 'stfu' will feel like help, Rahsheen. My point being, if that isn't the way you felt minutes after typing it, how do you know others aren't just reacting from their own places of hurt and frustration, too?
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
I said a lot more than STFU in this thread. If people are reacting based on "their own places of hurt", that's even more reason for them to step back and actually THINK about what they're feeling. The tweet that started this convo was RT'd with everything after the ? cut off, which just fueled the fire. Nobody actually got the point of what I was saying.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Very good point, Fikisha! Even if they weren't identifying in some way, people hate being conned, especially by those who have/had it much better. Maybe there's some jealousy in there, and they don't want him to regain a status they could never have, especially since he lost it by acting like he could do whatever he pleased, law and the well-being of others be damned.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
*nodding* I know you said more than that. Feelings and responses so close to the sentencing may very well be transitory, is my point. Your comments have been much more reasoned since the one I referenced. I think there will be a dropoff.
- Kisha, Well Conditioned
from BuddyFeed
It's admirable that you wish society as a whole was much more forgiving but there are some things that are hard to forgive. For me it is very hard to be objective about these issues. Do I hate Chris Brown? Do I wish him dead? Do I wish him ill? No. But neither do I respect or like what I know of him. Now, I don't want to seem to be picking on you but when you make such a statement, you...
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- pea
I think we should be more forgiving of criminals, but their punishment should not just be locking them up with other criminals for a while. To forgive there needs to be some level of trust, and rehab combined with some sort of effort to prove they actually learned/felt bad could be capable of that. Also, about how male victims are treated differently, it seems to be a horrible loop....
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- Heather
Forgiving a sex offender doesn't mean I'm going to let them babysit my kids. It means I'm going to give them a fair chance to redeem themselves. Yes, he beat her. He went to court. He was judged. The case is over at this point. Where would we be as a society if we actually forgave those that served their punishment and gave them a chance and redemption?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I also don't understand why people make assumptions about how Chris Brown feels about the situation based on random paparazzi footage and an old interview.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
How old was the interview?
- Johnny Worthington
I actually have no clue and could be wrong on that part. I thought I'd heard on TV it was recorded a while back, but only now released.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
i'm gonna repost this cuz i think i placed it in the middle of a discussion about pedophiles and was consequently ignored:
- Marco
Rah's viewpoint can only come from someone that sees these people a part of his community, which is very admirable. I agree with Tad that "A hallmark of a man is self control." Repentance (or whatever you would call it) and personal improvement are other wonderful hallmarks. Human society has historically discarded people that fall outside the boundaries of acceptable behavior. Most of...
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- Marco
With regards to Vick - While I think of what he did with the dogs as deplorable, and personally think he should never have the opportunity to own pets of any kind again, he did his time. He's still doing his penance, or trying to, and as such, deserves a chance to prove that he has changed. He appears, in the interviews I've seen, to actually understand what he did, and feel remorse for...
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- Bette Cooper
^^That!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
A law enforcement officer once told me if he had to respond to a domestic violence call, and both people were pointing fingers at each other, if one had bruises and the other didn't, he wouldn't be arresting the one WlTH bruises.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
If you cheat on a test, your a cheater. If you steal a candy bar, your a thief. If you force dogs to fight each other and kill the ones that don't make it, your an animal abuser. If you beat the shit out of a woman your a woman beater. If you get your dick sucked in the White House, your re-elected. :D
- Santa CW™
You don't think MOST of the presidents had that? They were married, and that was home for most, I believe.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
What's the point in all that labeling? Think back in your life. How many things have you done once that you would feel justified in being known as for the rest of your life?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
again with the "once?"
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Well, Harpo beat Sofia but he's no woman beater. Tho, he was beaten by his woman... #Trigonomics
- Outsanity
Ok, a few times. Does it make a difference? Especially when it turns into "possibly did", "almost did", and here say....
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Seriously, if one actually thinks hitting a woman is wrong, and is no woman-beater, wouldn't he be so shocked at his behavior after the 1st, maybe 2nd blow, that he wouldn't keep going and throw in a bite and a choke for good measure? If not, at what point does his non-woman-beating dimwit brain tell him that this isn't what he does (especially to someone he professes to love) and make him stop? [edit: fixed to avoid confusion]
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
And what's to say that she didn't keep attacking him to provoke the 2nd and 3rd blow? Just because he didn't come away with much damage doesn't mean he was the aggressor. This is my reason in repeatedly pointing out the fact that we don't know what happened.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I can concede we can't be 100% certain, but I fail to see the logic in the idea that someone getting her butt whipped by a larger, stronger opponent would keep fighting when the opponent had a desire to stop, & that she would be able to do it w/o leaving a mark on the apparent Ninja, so as to deceive investigators & everyone else involved in determining the truth. There might be logic...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Rahseen, let's assume, for argument, that she went after him, passionately. Let's say she called him every name in the book and kicked him, hit him, slapped him, punched him. That makes her an ass. There would be no excuse for that behavior, and it doesn't justify her being beaten up. Her blood was found all over the interior of his car. This doesn't happen when you are trying to...
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- Yvette Ferry
Bull. The average person is not trained to restrain people. All you can think of in the heat of the moment is what to do to keep this person from killing you. If you have never been attacked physically and out of the blue, you may not understand, but your first reaction is not "Oh, let me restrain this out of control person without harming them because they are obviously out of their mind right now"
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Ha! I'm a scrawny girl. If someone punched me, I would break in two and die. I can't physically restrain anybody. However, you would not have to beat me bloody to physically restrain me, or most women. I have been suddenly assaulted by a mugger who broke my rib and a finger, and I was attacked once by someone who broke my jaw. I (skinny ballerina girl) defended myself, each time. It's what you do, by instinct.
- Yvette Ferry
Not trying to diminish your experience, Rahsheen. My opinion is not more valuable than yours, or anyone else's. I'm just trying to say that our condoning violence is dangerous. And we are programmed to dislike domestic violence, and I think this is a good and positive thing.
- Yvette Ferry
I don't think this is about /condoning/ violence, though; it's about not raging violently and endlessly about some event where the facts aren't actually known.
- Tristan Seligmann
Tristan, what other facts would we need, here, in order to form informed opinions?
- Yvette Ferry
Why *would* Chris Brown, an R&B artist, suddenly and violently attack a small women with whom he is romantically involved? Either he's insane, or maybe she just wouldn't stop coming at him with a stilleto. Maybe because he was sleeping with someone else? I dunno. I wasn't there, but that's also why I have no STRONG opinion about what happened....because I don't know what happened and neither party is saying what happened. Has Rihanna come out and said anything? Not that I recall....
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I have no idea. But are you saying that, if she was beaten bloody, she might have brought it on herself, and so the world should not judge the guy who beat her up?
- Yvette Ferry
Its because the assumption is that he (like so many other people that commit a serious offense) built up to it, and that what we saw was the end result of a pattern of abuse as opposed to a single, regrettable lapse in judgment.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I HIGHLY doubt Rah is saying that, Yvette... what I believe he's trying to say is that, without knowing the whole story, and in spite of what the papers, radio, TV, and internet say, we don't know the whole story, getting worked up to the point of extreme emotions over someone who may or may not care that people are having that kind of reaction, is a waste of time. I believe, completely...
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- Bette Cooper
Assumptions. Exactly.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
so just clarifying, if i rob a bank, but I only do it once I am not a bank robber? Interesting legal framework ya' got goin' there.
- Bahiyyih
Has nothing to do with legality. It has to do with labeling people based on one incident. Someone who has one drink is not suddenly an alcoholic. Someone who owns one fancy tech gadget is not suddenly a geek. Someone who beds one woman is not necessarily a ladies man. Reading one book doesn't make you a bookworm.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Woman is singular. Therefore if you beat one woman you are a woman beater by definition.
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
*blink* and you're serious. "Why *would* Chris Brown, an R&B artist, suddenly and violently attack a small women with whom he is romantically involved?" BECAUSE. THAT'S. WHAT. ABUSERS. DO. i saw a man grab a woman around the throat and push her into a wall for way way less than what rihanna supposedly did. i've had friends assaulted for way less. HE BEAT HER ASS BECAUSE HE COULD....
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- tiffany
If he did it once, he'll do it again. Apparently this incident was a "did it again" that would make him a woman beater, abuser. This time I would say he brutalized her. This is a terrible story but there are women who LIVE this daily. To lessen the impact of what he did flies in the face of all those women who have been abused and are being abused right now. I can't get with it AT ALL.
- Michelle
I find it odd that a court finding of guilt is not enough to judge whether or not someone did the wrong thing. Rah, I see you saying the finding of guilt should be enough, but also we shouldn't assume he's guilty. I don't understand how those things go together. Yes, she could have been verbally abusing him, or physically gone after him. But what he did was not just enough to protect...
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- Heather
Not saying whether he did the wrong thing or not, just saying that labeling him a woman beater is a bit much to me. Also, if she was actually being aggressive, we can't assume that she stopped being a threat at some point just because she had bumps and bruises.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Thanks, tiffany. Your comment exactly shows what I don't like about this whole situation. I'm done. I guess it's not possible for some people to look at this situation objectively and I think I've pretty much fully explained my POV, but it's like no one is actually hearing me. Which is fine. For the record: I don't condone what he did. I'm not trying to downplay shit. I just think many...
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- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I know he's done with it, but I wish someone could explain to me how anyone could be 50/50 on it. A car is not an apartment with one door out; how the heck could she have forced him to fight her? You open the car door; you get out. Men's shoes are easier to run in. Men run faster. Talk about projecting a personal experience. I know I'd be pretty upset, if I'd ever done anything to help...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
guy bills companies for time he spends in their stores and/or engaging with their brand(s) - http://www.paulmccrudden.com/sixweek...
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Using the data collection website Daytum I recorded time (in minutes) and cost (in £ GBP) of all my interactions as a consumer. This included the odd five minutes for lunch every few days at my favourite salad stall on Goodge Street, to spending 45 minutes in Preston train station waiting for a connection. Yep, that's 45 minutes of my life I'll never get back. The data's not perfect of course (eg. it's not automated based on GPS), and I rounded up/down as appropriate so that I didn't completely lose my sanity. But it provides a fascinating insight into how I live my life as a consumer, and which brands steal my attention. What's more, with only a limited time of existence on this planet, it shows me whether I'm spending my time and money wisely as a consumer. And having invoiced the companies that claim my attention, I'll soon find out how much they respect the time I spend with their brand.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from Bookmarklet
interesting.
- vijay
I've often wanted to do that. Notably, with Time Warner Cable and Sprint. I can spend hours on the phone with them and never get a resolution.
- Admiral Anika
did he get anyone to pay?? Edit: Ahh... that's a check from one of them... sweet!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Totally amazing
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
"...and I am indeed sorry you were not able to spend more time in my competitors' establishments" - bwahaha
- Tristan Seligmann
It's great to see that some organisations have a sense of humour.
- James Myatt
Giving Google Reader the ole' college try, now that it's got new features n' stuff. So I start reading all my items, it's just one big long window of stuff. How do I mark an individual item as "read"? The only options I see are "mark all as read", or "mark items older than a day as read", etc.
Mike Chelen, E-Advocate Network, testbeta and 2 other people liked this
You just use keyboard shortcuts. J jumps forward. K goes back. You can read more feeds this way than any other service I've seen. J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-K-J-J-J-K-K-J-J... you get the idea.
- Louis Gray
thanks! I mean, I saw the "previous" and "next" buttons also, but I want stuff I'm NOT interested in to disappear. Can I do that?
- Laura Norvig
Doh! Never mind - I see what I was looking for now at the bottom of the individual item.
- Laura Norvig
Great. Have some patience, but I think you'll love it. Fantastic product.
- Louis Gray
I'm liking it, but I have issues with the fact that stuff I "mark as read" doesn't get shunted off to a folder or disappear.
- Laura Norvig
Google Reader works diefferently. Normally all you have to do is *read* the entries you like. They will be marked as read, and will disappear *the next time* you open Google Reader. I also mark all entries as read (button at the top) when i am finished. So the next time i only see new stuff.
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Hmm, I tried that and it didn't work for me. But I'm clicking on "All Items" to read. Is there some other view that will only have new stuff?
- Laura Norvig
Am I the only one that uses N instead of J?
- Tristan Seligmann
You might try feedly, which is a firefox plugin that sits over Greader. I find the process of reading through the entries isn't quite as fast but you can make things disappear from the screen immediately if you want
- Marc Staniford
I keep Reader in "Expanded" view, displaying only new items. I cruise through it as if it were an inbox, hitting "j" to move from one article to the next, simply flagging (i.e. Star-ing with the "s" key) those items that will take more than a few seconds to read. The "r" key refreshes the page, hiding those items I've already read/seen and displaying any additional articles Reader has...
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- Ken Sheppardson
BTW, I've cut down to only 64 feeds at the moment, and seem to get most of my new items from the 12 people whose shared items I follow (including Louis :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Those are great tips, Ken. And Marc, I have heard nothing but goodness about Feedly. Did not realize it was a firefox plugin, though, interesting (and fine by me, as Firefox is my browser of choice).
- Laura Norvig
So if Google Reader is supposed to be morphing into a sort of socnet of its own, how do I see, for example, all of the 12 people whose shared items you follow, Ken?
- Laura Norvig
Hmm... that's a great question. I don't think there's a way to do that at the moment. By the way, while I had a little weekend fling with the social features in Reader, I prune that list of people I follow relentlessly and haven't looked at the "comments" view in days now. I've retreated to FriendFeed for now when it comes to true conversation, discovery, and true crowd-sourced recommendations,
- Ken Sheppardson
Laura - you should click on 'N new items' along with the 'Refresh' button will get what you need, I think. Avoid the 'All items' link, unless you'd like to go back and read something you didn't star or otherwise tag (as Ken suggests).
- Joel
Not A Hard Sell - http://noblepig.com/2009...
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By name alone, I was already convinced this was for me. There is nothing I dislike more than a dried out, hockey-puck-of-a brownie. What's the point. But these Peanut Butter-Nutella Brownies are nothing less than perfection. Can you see the fudge-like middle? Yeah, that's for me.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
from Bookmarklet
خوشمزه ست؟
- وارش
وارش جون تست شده بفرما :دی
- پـرستووو
Indeed - not a hard sell at all. I'm sharing it with the Influenza Bloggers. Ahahaha
- jan geronimo
شک نکن که خوشمزست وارش تازه پرستو هم تایید کرده :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Nom Nom.............
- Kevin J Hatton
نمیخوام. فقط شوکولاتای روش خوبه :)
- وارش
کسی طرز پختشو بلده؟:((((((((((( اسمایلی دست به جائی بند نبودن و تهیه در خانه.چیکار کنم دیگه اگه نپزم مطمئنــــــــــــم گوشتای تنم همشون آب میشه:(((((((((( :دی
- joupy
!!این قرص اعصاااب من کووووو ؟
- Noosha
نوشا گوشه عکس یه کم دقت کن :))
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
I used to dislike chocolate until I was in my mid-twenties. Now I love it and this looks great. I forwarded the link to someone who may feel inclined to make a batch.
- Gus
Mahdi, your posts are always the deadliest to my diet. :) :-/
- Spidra Webster
@Spidar, most of my friends complain about this issue :))
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
OK. I ended up making this myself today. Love it! Be sure you have some vanilla ice cream with it. YUM.
- Gus
LOL-Not a hard sell at all!
- Harold Cabezas
it looks very delicious
- MutfakTeyze
Oh my god, that looks awesome. I totally have to make that now!
- Tristan Seligmann
:)) مهدی
- Noosha
omg =)
- Betül (jerome)
it is delicious at all :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
شخم
- Jimbooo™
What is your Google Reader URL? Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... #greader
Nick Bradbury, nat bas, Irma Vermaat and 124 other people liked this
I share all sorts. :-) Lots of photos, photography and tech stuff though. Feel free to sub to me if you like. :-) BTW, you can see who is following you here: http://www.google.com/reader... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, Michael.
- Kol Tregaskes
More often I end up sharing directly through FF even if I find it on GReader, but sometimes I share there. http://www.google.com/reader...
- Tony, Paradox of FF
http://www.google.com/reader... Just about internet!
- ★ Soner Gönül
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Michael, it's not been clear until very recently, you can see notifications here: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
Love yr posts :-)))))
- Johni Fisher
thanks for starting this thread - here's mine http://www.google.com/reader... (mostly social media stuff, a little food, and occasional randomness)
- Chris Rogers
Kol, thanks! I wish it would tell me when they started following, I'll have to keep a better eye on it now.
- Michael Fidler
Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - hope you enjoy!
- outofmyarse
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
http://www.google.com/reader... - Always looking for more ppl to share links!
- Liza
Ah so that's your name, M F! ;-) I'm wanting to live in that area too, nice around there?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes it's alright I moved here two years ago, I was in West London before that
- M F
GREAT FEED - I am finding so many great ppl to follow - this is great.
- Liza
M F, I like to move to just over the other side of the stream from you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And your pics are great! I am going to be stuck in greader for a while!
- Liza
Well wave your hand Kol when you get here
- M F
http://www.google.com/reader... - But I only really use google reader as a simple RSS reader. Follow people on FriendFeed.
- Anton Tanderup
Hehe, M F. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kim Landwehr
Thanks for your latest bookmark there, Kim. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
feedly.com :)
- Zach Landes
http://www.google.com/reader... but everything I share in reader comes on to FriendFeed.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
http://www.google.com/reader... - the stuff I share there is also on FriendFeed.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
http://www.google.com/reader... mine are mostly science items
- Sally Church
Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Mostly Tech.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - mixed up content in Portuguese (mainly), English and Spanish.
- Marcos
Liza, oooh I love the post on generating Mandelbrot fractals in Excel!
- Sally Church
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Thanks everyone! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
http://www.google.com/reader... Google and other tech stuff, as well as other random things of interest.
- Californian
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Politics, photography, humor, news, tech, entertainment
- amygeek
Thanks for starting this conversation Kol!
- amygeek
No worries, Amy. :-) Thank you all!
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't know that I have one, as I eschew most things Google....
- Mike Shields
Not sure if I've already shared it, but my URL is http://www.google.com/reader....
- Tyson Key
Thank you guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
your welcome kol
- Moved to Facebook
from IM
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think that I over-loaded my poor G-Reader by adding all of you. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Here is my feed: http://l.clipotech.com/shared - I will try to add all of you on this list :)
- Svartling
Don't forget to add all out new contacts in to groups. Otherwise we cant comment on each others shared items.
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... - Almost exclusively tech, including humor/cartoons and productivity.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
Thanks everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
here's mine! Love some of the new features... http://www.google.com/reader...
- tomit
I don't think I added mine yet: http://www.google.com/reader...
- LogEx
Thank you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Almost missed this one! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Patrik Arwengrim
I guess I best start sharing stuff, then. :D - http://www.google.com/reader...
- Bette Cooper
http://www.google.com/reader... - I guess I'm a bit late to the party, but here's mine. I share mainly technology, photography, design... and other random stuff.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Thank you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes! The list I was looking for! I'll get my info on here as soon as I get on my netbook
- Kamilah Gill
from email
Thanks for posting this Kol. Never paid any attention to my shared items folder before but just did!
- Martha
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Vince, exactly!
- Kol Tregaskes
Not sure how I missed this thread. I share lots of tech news, some programming stuff and a little more at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Rob Diana
There is also a group that collected a bunch of reader shares at http://friendfeed.com/share-y...
- Rob Diana
http://www.google.com/reader... - Or just go to: Sharing settings on your google reader shared items and search for: Avi Joseph
- Avi Joseph
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
http://www.google.com/reader... - topics include a bit of everything, but there's a fair about of Android-related stuff in there
- Chuck Falzone
http://www.google.com/reader... - German - mostly politics and crude funny things. Maybe some new technology
- JoeD
Thank everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... I mostly share ART with a little bit this and that thrown in for good measure.
- Kimber Scott
Ryo: Same here :) "completely moved to Google Reader / Twitter / Posterous" All my followers, please subscribe to me on Google Reader: http://www.google.com/reader... or my lifestream: http://l.clipotech.com/lifestr...
- Svartling
http://www.google.com/reader... -- nothing shared yet; still learning several social networks & services, so it might take me a while...
- Dennis Jernberg
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
easier to just follow and edit groups from search url>http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ru Viljoen
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you very much, Rob!
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Right now I'm testing it in comparison to Netvibes. It's yet to be seen if I end up making the switch.
- Brad Williamson
http://www.google.com/reader... Mainly photography related things.
- Sven
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
My shared stream is at http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Jacobson
Paul, can do that but it will be out of date the moment I post it as I'm getting more new users all the time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe someone could hook up something via Yahoo Pipes (or whatever) to automatically generate the OPML?
- Tristan Seligmann
Damond, I'm getting that deja vu feeling. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Whoa, hey, I'm late to this. I'm here: http://www.google.com/reader... :-)
- Jordan Hofker
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... Please dont tell me I have to add everyone manually like I did with Facebook yesterday?? *sigh*
- Julia Ault
http://www.google.com/reader... link to my bundle with all my feeds that i have in friendfeed too
- Chris Hofmann
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
Thanks all!
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
spread those tentacles thats what i say (I'm generally sharing comics, animation, and interesting weirdeness) : http://www.google.com/reader...
- Paul Greer
Exactly, Paul. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
There are a few people that have not added me to a group and so I cannot reply to some of your comments. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
phew..
- Paul Greer
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
https://www.google.com/reader... - Customized with numbers
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks guys.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... GReader, Twitter, and Delicious (plus my own sites) are my primary hubs now. Y'all please join me on GReader.
- Chris Baskind
http://www.google.com/reader... late as always
- Raymundo Roxas
Thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Trying Google Reader.. Share your friendfeed feed WITHIN Reader. (see http://ff.im/6WRIk)
- Chris Myles
http://www.google.com/reader... - Claude LaFrenière aka climenole :)
- Claude LaFrenière
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... - Russ jackson
- Russ Jackson
http://www.google.com/reader... please add!
- Brendon Wadey
Jesse, I saw your share of this FriendFeed thread on Google Reader!
- John E. Bredehoft
David, I use mobile Google Reader on an older phone with Windows mobile. My bookmark begins with google.com/reader/m/view
- John E. Bredehoft
Here's mine...http://www.google.com/reader...
- Oscar Antonio Moralí
Aloha! http://www.google.com/reader...
- Ryan
check it out...http://www.google.com/reader...
- Cos
Will share tech, science and skepticism, and education news stories: http://www.google.com/reader...
- TC
in case anyone missed it, mine is http://www.google.com/reader...
- David Gross
more cool
- Brent - Loving Life
District 9 is an awesome moie, but if you're at all bothered by shaky cam, you will feel awful watching this movie. :x
Alex Scoble, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah, Graham English and 3 other people liked this
o damnz, burn, i cant see it now, :( (i'm gonna cry)
- chaz2b
Not nearly as bad as Cloverfield.
- Graham English
Blair Alien Project?
- Joe Silence is not Santa
@Graham: Actually, I thought it was as bad as Cloverfield. My head hurt so bad after the first 1/3 or so of the movie that I had to keep my eyes closed for a long while. I actually fell asleep for 20 or 30 mins in the middle because I kept my eyes closed; while I missed out on a good portion of the movie, I'm glad I fell asleep, otherwise I would've had much worse headache than I...
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- Cheryl Jones
Does anyone know of any remedies for this type of situation? I'd love to be able to watch movies like this without feeling like my head is going to explode and my stomach is going to turn inside out. :P
- Cheryl Jones
i dont, but want to thank you, because i was all but headed out the door when i read your review, and that would all but kill me, :o
- chaz2b
I'm glad I was able to watch some of it, but will have to rewatch when it's out on disc.
- Cheryl Jones
from FreshFeed
I wanna go see something, but I don't know if I can sit through this in a theater and really enjoy it.
- Derrick
:-( I'm bummed that ruined it for you. I was really impressed with this movie, mostly with the various political subtexts, and surprised and pleased that Hollywood would go there. Might have helped that I hadn't read anything about it and had no idea what to expect (just knew it was about aliens). The cinematography didn't bother me, didn't really even notice it honestly, but I guess I'm just not as sensitive to that.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Jason: Yeah, the hubby isn't bothered by shaky cam, and he's always saying how surprised he is at how sensitive I am to it. I get headaches from watching mildly shaky video from home-movie-type videos... :P I wish there were a pill I could take to combat the nausea. I don't know if people know this, but Wikipedia has a good blurb on "simulation sickness", which is what this condition is called: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Cheryl Jones
Just watched it as well. Very interesting.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've never had problems with this and movies, but every now and then it strikes when playing certain games. The weird thing is the sudden transition from feeling absolutely fine, to headache / nausea / possible vomiting; no gradual transition, just fine one moment and then awful the next.
- Tristan Seligmann
Maaaan. Thanks, Cheryl. gotta catch on video
- Baroness Von SmashAHomie
I didn't mind it at all. Cloverfield has a more active camera.
- Manuel Mas
When I go to Twitter.com... I receive ... HTTP Server Error 503
No available server to handle this request
vicster is..., Carlton Hackett, Alejandro and 3 other people liked this
Me too.
- Andrew Roche
He we Go.. Hope its not another attack?
- Brodie Beta
yep, it's down
- Mike Nencetti
I wonder if the attacks will happen more often now that they've really started kicking in
- Jon Bishop
I've been having issues with Twitter since the initial attack. All morning it's been glitchy... Now completely down.
- Brodie Beta
Looks like they have a proper error page up now; but yeah, it's dead.
- Tristan Seligmann
Test.
Mike Nencetti and pea liked this
No, I don't wanna.
- pea
Success!
- Tristan Seligmann
Pop quiz.
- Ladybug Heather
not again!!
- vijay
Vijay, flashback?
- Kamath (नमः)
how did you guess right? =P
- vijay
You know what's awesome? JS bugs that only appear when you add a stupid alert() to test a value.
Never use alert() for JS debugging, it causes all sorts of weirdness.
- Tristan Seligmann
I wish Twitter would sell to Google so it would die like Jaiku and Dodgeball. But I won't post this over on Twitter. I really don't have much love for the service, even though I know I'll be stuck using it for the indefinite future. Jesse Stay has it figured out. It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping.
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Here I can write the equivilent of an entire blog post. And even make changes. And even have a conversation. And use it as many times an hour as I want (Twitter rate limits my apps after a while cause I'm too heavy of a user).
- Robert Scoble
werd.
- imabonehead
I can sense already that FriendFeed is slowing down now that it is joining Facebook, while Twitter still has the best flow (and best system for following people and best mobile clients). So, we're stuck with Twitter, which is too bad, because the technology here is a ton better.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is a piece of crap - BUT it's where the audience is (currently).
- Jim Connolly
Now it is starting to feel like FF again with you bigging it up again Robert ;)
- Travis Koger
Twitter is the new MySpace.
- imabonehead
Maybe google wave will change the way we use twitter, etc. again. Haven't tried it yet, but it might succeed where friendfeed "failed" - getting enough people to use it.
- Frank S.
Travis: I had to go and clean out my Twitter and Facebook accounts and spread out my usage.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed! - Friendfeed is so much better (for as long as it really lasts in Facebook world...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
from iPhone
Robert: I'm thinking of setting up a facebook account for my Marketing blog - what do you think?
- Jim Connolly
@Scobleizer I don't think Friendfeed would be quite so popular if it weren't for twitter
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Twitter is the new Myspace - HAHA - this quote made my day. For me it is just becoming a multiplicator for my friendfeed but it is important for that!
- Sascha Pallenberg
Prolific: I'm not so sure. Blogs made Twitter. So, what if there were no Twitter? We would still talk up something else. But maybe FriendFeed wouldn't have thrived anyway. Twitter hit a sweet spot with its easy to program API, it's easy to use interface, and its cute name and branding.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter works extremely well on mobile devices. I constantly see people tweeting whereas it's more difficult to do with FriendFeed's interface for a typical user.
- imabonehead
Really think that Twitter is annoying it's users too much. There's some problems out there that are really being ignored. Here's an example of a problem that could be solved very simply, but no action is being taken (if it was solved it'd create a lot of goodwill) http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter...
- Edd McArdle
Robert, now that FriendFeed's people are working for Facebook, and since Facebook has already been making changes to make it more "open socially", do you think eventually that Facebook will become the best place to have serious conversations?
- Carlton Hackett
Carlton: yes.
- Robert Scoble
I've been thinking so too. Although, I wonder how the non-Soc/net junkies will respond to that?
- Carlton Hackett
Robert, two thoughts. #1 - do you think Google really would let it die? Acquiring Twitter would be more like its YouTube acquisition than Jaiku (in terms of price and # of users). Secondly, what would Twitter have to change for you to change your opinion?
- Ben Parr
I really, really, really want Twitter to work out is the thing. It's just a pain in the neck to communicate without either losing the conversation or spamming useless banter over multiple Tweets because you can't fit it in 140 characters. That's just my experience. Those still spending most their time there don't mind it I guess.
- Jesse Stay
I like Twitter. The conversation flows pretty well for me, and to be fair, I get more @replies there than I get replies here to my posts.
- Chris Nixon
I think a combination of the Retweet API and a true threaded replies architecture and UI could change some of my opinion on that though if they do it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: It's NOT just your experience. Twitter is getting less valuable the bigger it gets. The spam / porn / bots issue is insane and ruining the experience.
- Jim Connolly
Chris: I have a twitter account with over 20,000 followers and get ten times as many replies here as I get there. Here I only have a small following. The calibre of people I connect with here is better too.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse, have Twitter improved their communication with developers since you wrote about it in April?
- Edd McArdle
Edd, over the last week I have noticed a difference, yes, but it's hard to tell if it will remain that way. They now seem to have a project manager over the API dev team (Ryan Sarver). He seems to be putting a filter on some things and keeping devs updated elsewhere. They're still learning though, much slower than FB or FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
agree on spam and bots, but it still is a nice little thing, if it remains what it was made for! marketing and reviewing thing isn't/shouldn't be there, true friendfeed is more effective as a tool for sending your message across, it is simple and strong
- testbeta
Testbeta: ... and FF works.
- Jim Connolly
Jim, Jesse, Robert: Value varies. For me, Twitter value continues to increase. I use it to find out what's happening, meet up with people, get random insights into how people are doing, find new people. It all works well. There are many different use cases and one tool does not have to do them all.
- Rachel Clarke
i couldn't agree more!
- lilian
Rachel: "It all works well"? Really? Twitter?
- Jim Connolly
Rachel, I agree with you. I just don't think Twitter works well for conversations, that's all. I use FriendFeed and Facebook for that. I use Twitter for different purposes, and I agree it does still have value.
- Jesse Stay
sometimes i think of Automattic's intense debate, but well friendfeed is intense debate, such a experience was never had on blogs, the commenting, liking, and so fast it propagates, even disqus commenting systems can't achieve what we have here on friendfeed, but i can't just throw away twitter, twitter still is good, true for the serious types it's word limit, reply system is a bit of...
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- testbeta
I would love to have FriendFeed as the commenting system on my blog.
- Chris Nixon
Chris, there are a few plugins that do that. I haven't tried them though.
- Jesse Stay
Chris: Check out what Scoble's doing with FF on building43.com
- Jim Connolly
Jim: yes. It works well for what I want it to do (I'm ignoring the ongoing issues with the DDOS). It's a free tool that adds far more value than it costs me to wait for odd outage.
- Rachel Clarke
Just checked your Twitter account and now understand exactly what you are saying.
- Jim Connolly
Jesse: agree, I use Facebook, Friendfeed, blogs, comments etc, all for different things. I even use the phone as a phone occasionally to talk with people ;-) But the assumption that one tool/service can do everything - and should do everything - is something I have a problem with. If something does not work for a person, don't use it.
- Rachel Clarke
The twitter ecoverse is cool, can do Psychological Profiles, can do Social Network Analysis. All those services that spawned as a result are amazing. I am also amazed at how dense Asians Languages are on Twitter, think about it they get about 60% more per tweet.
- Robert Higgins
Ben: at this point I am not sure what Twitter could do to win back my love. I will use it just like I use AT&T and United Airlines. I have very little love for those even though I use them frequently. Twitter wins because it is simple and flat and has great clients. I wouldn't cry if it disappeared, though.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
So why do you hate it?
- Raanan Avidor
You are a hypocrite! I remember you use to sing the praises of Twitter all the time. Another toy comes along and you start bashing it. If I was Friendfeed management I would cancel your account now before you start bashing them. Robert Scoble is nothing but a follower of crowds anyway.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
You want it to die? Such an odd statement. I have met so many great people through Twitter, and the news information I can find through search or news agencies or even people who are newshounds are amazing. I know it's not perfect and the last few weeks have definately proved that, and the spam is just awful. But to want to kill it, what a strong statement.
- PC Easy
from twhirl
Twitter is not abot writing blog posts or having conversations, its about small pieces of information being communicated to anyone who wants to listen. You do not have to listen, if you want a conversation use a forum or FriendFeed, use WordPress for blog posts. Stop trying to make Twitter into something it is not designed to be.
- Darren Rollett
I really used to like Twitter, still do sometimes. What I don't like is the Twitter hype. I don't seem able to turn on any media channel these days without reading/hearing or watching about it. Even the BBC reported that Twitter was under attack recently on the main BBC news. FFS come on, there must be more happening in the world than a micro blogging site with a few million users...
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- Nick Bristow
If you owned twitter would you sell to google?
- cheapsuits
from iPhone
Robert, Atleast something positive could come out of it. If Twitter sells to Google they might(though its not guaranteed) make it opensource and then a federation of twitter server(ala wave servers) can co-exist happily and that way we'll own our stuff(as Anil Dash and other points out). Or they might integrate it in Wave framework. Not that people are not gonna complain about it but thats a different topic.
- Abhishek
Surely an improvement in the service would be a more positive wish?
- Chris Nixon
Say what you want but something with the architecture of friendfeed is far more conversational then twitter could ever be.
- cheapsuits
I don't know why people think Twitter is the place to converse. It's really not built for that. I find myself enjoying the flow of conversations more on Facebook and FriendFeed.
- Naomi Williams
Self pimping? Hmmm... Perhaps not for all of us. And besides, self-pimping isn't limited to twitter.
- @JonAston
PS - Maybe it's just me, but you seem bitter lately. Hope you turn that around for yourself.
- @JonAston
Jon: You are right. People pimp on FriendFeed too; as I say in my new book.... :-)
- Jim Connolly
@jim, they will do anywhere, this is human nature, they do even in real life, so why not in virtual one?
- abdellah
Abdellah: Absolutely.
- Jim Connolly
"(Twitter) It's a horrid place to try to communicate anything other than a bit of self pimping." AMEN
- Alejandro
Personally I wish Google would buy both Facebook and Twitter so they could both die.
- Brian Sullivan
@brian, hey where could I read to you then?!!
- abdellah
@Frank S. Google Wave will only be valid if you actually have other friends/collegues who use Google Wave. Otherwise you'll be using it with the *crickets*
- Naomi Williams
Oh yeah -- forgot that due to circumstances beyond our control FF is now Facebook. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
oh yeah , they share the same vision, they got the same perception...
- abdellah
It's the ff interface (developers) that make it great, but it's really you guys and gals, the people friendfeed attracted that make it valuable to me. Let's consider a real migration to a more reliable long term social media. It has to be open (data portable, unsellable) to get my trust
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I hope the FaceBook people will take comments like these to heart. I do like twitter but the functionality FriendFeed brought was the next generation in stream notification.
- Chris Jackson
Ohh time to pimp Jim's new book on Twitter ;)
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Mark: Yeah - all I need is a title. Oh, and a book....and the time to write one....then I will be pimping like a pro!
- Jim Connolly
Wow Robert, I was thinking this the past few days and could never bring it to words...well done
- Braden Douglass
Jim: I'm time bankrupt but love sharing and collaborating. Let's hire a ghostwriter to capture our best ideas in an intelligible manner :). Joking of course, there's no easy way to spread our thoughts but doing it ourselves
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
I was gonna call the Funky Phantom. (That really dates me.)
- Jim Connolly
Robert, I challenge you to stop using Twitter for a month and then blog about the experience. And that includes hiding all Tweets in FF.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
Lets face it, Twitter was built as an update service - a big Internet megaphone. The natural transition has been from update service to marketing service. Big Internet Megaphone. It's good at that, but it's not at conversations nor at discovery. The larger problem is people still approach Twitter like a true social engagement tool - and it's simply not. The disconnect between perception and reality results in the poor adoption numbers and other soft metrics.
- AJ Kohn
twitter is noise. filter it and you can find some gold. imho, that's beyond mere self-pimpage
- Rob Schieber
Agreed Rob. I'd prefer semantic algorithms applied to all tweets. I'm interested in real time search and datamining. And semantic extraction on all status would allow for real time "sorting"
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
i'd love to meetup with fellows and see what api scraping is going on - know where threads are for that?
- Rob Schieber
Idk, This seems so much better then twitter.
- SeanParnell
It does have a lot of noise, granted - but if it went away now, I'm not sure where everyone would run to. Facebook is too silly, Linkedin is too stolid, and everything else is too fractured for me to communicate with all the people I want to in a single shot. Guess I'd end up doing everything through ping.fm after all.
- Ciaoenrico
Wow, Isn't online chit-chat such a fuss? :)
- SeanParnell
Robert, just a week or two you were saying that Twitter is beating FriendFeed because of scanability http://friendfeed.com/scoblei.... And you had lots of complaints about the FriendFeed user interface. You also talked about how Twitter was much better after you un-followed everyone and hand picked who you're following. I have to ask, what has changed in the past few days to make you say that the service should die? Feels like you're flip flopping.
- Mike Doeff
Can't you apply for extended API limits?
- Tristan Seligmann
love the single post/status page, i mean like this: http://twitter.com/twitter...
- testbeta
I noticed that in the past two weeks, the tweet intensity has greatly decreased from all my follows in Twitter. Granted, I'm not following too many, but the ones I do follow have traditionally tweeted a lot each day. Is this a trend (has Twitter become a has been) or is this simply a coincidental anomaly?
- Jeff Sayre
Robert I find myself on friendfeed more these days
- (jeff)isageek
@brian would you consider myspace if both facebook and twitter die?!!(ps: sorry I forget the LOL)
- abdellah
Myspace -- don't know. I haven't really tried or paid attention to it. But probably not -- isn't it Facebook like? Maybe usenet? ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
brian, let forget all those techie and go irc :)
- abdellah
IMO, people who don't like the limitations of Twitter and whine about it hampering them are using it wrong. Twitter is not a place to pimp your blog or drive traffic to your site. It is not an SEO tool. It's not a place for you to compete in order to get more 'followers'. If you've ever tried to do any of these things, or if you ever followed more than a few hundred people, then yes, no...
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- Otto
Well said Otto
- Chris Nixon
Jesse Stay: you should stop complaining so much about twitter when you build an entire business based on their lack of functionality and other issues.
- Mihai Secasiu
Mihai, I'm not complaining - they can do what they want. As I said I really want them to succeed. It's a matter of fact that they do have their flaws - I'm hoping to help them fix those, assuming they're listening at all. What are you doing to help Twitter get better?
- Jesse Stay
it is like twitter if for what,where, when and friendfeed is for why, how
- testbeta
Mike: just because I use a service doesn't mean I love it. I use ATT and United all the time and they suck too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And yes Twitter has some good things about it. Doesn't mean it is all good. Personally it is overused and overhyped and YES I am partially responsible.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Apostol I get value out of Twitter. You aren't listening. I get value out of AT&T too but it COULD be so much more. Chris I tried to be positive but Twitter just doesn't respond to positivity. Plus they are cynical AT BEST about their users. Read the Twittergate documents to see just how cynical they are.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Twitter was just there at the right time. It's not the best solution to the problem (microblogging), but it's good ~enough~.
- Trent Hamm
You seriously think Twitter will die once it gets bought by a 'bigger' company?
- Mike Shields
Mike: do you use Dodgeball? It was bought by Google. So was Jaiku.
- Robert Scoble
Trent: did you just call Twitter the Microsoft of microblogging? Yeah, that's sorta what I was trying to say too! ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I just find it amazing that all the early adopters get really snobby about Twitter now it is getting more mainstream. There is something snobby about people's attitude to Facebook as well. I'm not a fan of Facebook but I know more people who use Facebook than use Twitter or Friendfeed combined. Even my mum has a Facebook account but she'd never be on Twitter or Friendfeed. Twitter...
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- Paul Nash
I liked Pownce. I wonder what SixApart has cooking up for them. So there's really no chance for Plurk to make a comeback and take back the community? With all the outage problems Twitter has, I would think Plurk would try to capitalize on that. Guess not.
- John Wang
now if the Google Reader team could just get their new commenting system streamlined and real-time ... :)
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Paul: it's not hard to understand if you are in our shoes. Here's why. When a company is young and struggling to get noticed, they love having early adopters. After all, that's the ONLY WAY a company gets to the next stage. I've never seen a company go straight to Oprah stage without getting early adopters excited. Then once the company gets enough traction they usually start mistreating the early adopters. In this case Twitter stabbed them in the back. Leo Laporte, for instance ...
- Robert Scoble
...got me excited about Twitter and was THE REASON it was the big huge deal at that 2007 SXSW. He had more followers than Mashable last year. But did he get put on the Suggested User List? No. So now Mashable has more than a million and Leo has a knife in his back. And you think it's amazing that early adopters turn their backs on Twitter? Really now.
- Robert Scoble
I don't see how Leo has a knife in his back. There was no preconceived notion that anyone would be added to that list. Who cares? He was fine before that list was created, and he can be just as fine now, and just as engaging.
- Andru Edwards
Andru: when he was hyping up the service and telling his users to use it, he was getting something in return: being at the top of the follower lists. When Twitter artificially put its own people at the top of the follower lists, and handed out grants of followers (worth many hundreds of thousands of dollars, by the way -- Mashable has changed its entire business to be Twitter centric) they specifically dissed Leo and many others. Most of whom won't point it out in public.
- Robert Scoble
Sadly true. I'm in much the same boat -- Twitter is a necessity for professionals and bloggers to stay on top of things, but other socialnets like Brightkite and FF are light years beyond it, which doesn't look to be changing any time soon. Don't even get me started on the spammers and the get-rich-quick'ers.
- Ryan Meader
But before the SUL was released, didn't Leo abandon Twitter in favor of Jaiku, due to Twitter having "Twit" as part of its name? Just saying, if I owned a list that I had complete control over, and someone showed that behavior towards me (whether it was right or wrong, I am not judging), I would think twice before putting them on a list that will result in many people seeing they they...
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- Andru Edwards
I can't agree with you more, Robert.
- Jon Ursenbach
Scobe: I very much disagree that it is about self pimping. Perhaps your senses are mush because you follow too many? I absolutely love getting that link to a new article or research, or to get a tweet from that celeb that makes me think and provides insight into a new world. I also use it as a research tool, for exploratory purposes. Twitter, as you know very well, is about what you make it, and that is a tenuous notion that really is influenced by who you follow.
- Chad Gesser
Andru: again, the list did NOT exist in the days when we were hyping up Twitter. So, there was a "promise" to early adopters that if they invested time in the service they could be at the top of the follower lists. Sort of how PlayFoursquare is today promising users that they can become mayors of places they frequent more than anyone else. What Twitter did was the equivilent of PlayFoursquare telling everyone that their "mayorship" doesn't matter anymore and that Oprah is now mayor of everywhere.
- Robert Scoble
Chad: one thing you have to remember about me is that I see that Twitter has 1,001 uses. Stop seeing the world as black and white. This is one post I'm making about Twitter among thousands. Translation: I already agreed with you. But you have to admit that many people use Twitter for self promotion.
- Robert Scoble
Andru: and anyway, the SUL is hardly the only reason to diss Twitter. Twitter still goes down all the time, it still has stupid rate limits. It still can't block spam effectively. It still has no friend management. It still has no features that didn't exist a year ago. And it is, in many respects, behaving worse. I'm hearing from developers that Twitter is becoming more closed, not more open (to monetize) and we're seeing them pick winners before the marketplace is done (bit.ly anyone?)
- Robert Scoble
The nice thing about Twitter is that it keeps your message short and to the point. Friendfeed is great but it doesn't lend itself well to an external app out of the browser. Also FriendFeed and any of these services you don't own your content
- Seth Goldstein
Seth: bing! So, back to the blog we will go. Except, why are we still here? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Awww Twitter the "me" network :)
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Anyone tried Streamy?
- cheapsuits
because the interraction is in real time
- abdellah
Wayne: retweet me. :-) abdellah: I thought it was because of all the sex. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
that was my expectation too ;)
- abdellah
I like friendfeed because of its realtimeyness, but I like twitter because it requires you to be concise. I have seen some brilliant tweets done in 140 characters or less. I think that's always been the allure of twitter, its sheer simplicity. How many features can you add to twitter without actually changing the core of what twitter is?
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: But what do you want from these companies ? Chaps like you give them the oxygen of publicity they need and they court you and then when they become successful you suddenly start to criticise them. Friendfeed has become successful (in great part to your endless plugging of it) and the founders will now go on to make money through their company being taken over by Facebook. You,...
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- Paul Nash
Scoble: no doubt....I can deal with the self promotion, the e marketing and spam garbage though to me is what has gooootttt to go
- Chad Gesser
Paul: my role in life is to use what will be, not what is. I don't turn on many companies, but Twitter isn't one that dealt with early adopters on good faith.
- Robert Scoble
nick: I explained why above.
- Robert Scoble
Is there a "social media" company that has dealt with early adopters in "good faith"? Facebook, FriendFeed, Flickr I suspect don't qualify ? Any that do?
- Brian Sullivan
all platforms seem to have self pimpering styles, why so passionate against twitter? Objectional question, not one of rhetoric.
- nick tadd
Brian: I didn't know that any of those have actively dissed their best early adopters. Facebook kicked me off, but only because I broke the TOS. It's always been straight up with me. Same with Flickr, although I do watch Thomas Hawk's talk about their censorship.
- Robert Scoble
none as brian says, they all deal with them, and "the earlier adopter" contribute to their evolution until they sell (sorry)
- abdellah
nick: because it's so prevalent there. "Look at my blog post about xxx" is almost a staple on Twitter. It's a new RSS reader. Which is fine, I use it too for that! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think you may have the makings for one of your future blogs here. Perhaps you do it for that reason? ;) The thing about Twitter is always going to be its LBE. It's a mainstream LBE to Social Media. For that very reason its perfect for business, government, and non profit to take public temperature and promote. The other "noise" is the "MV", the "mainstream voice". The conversation is 4 way.(and yes sometimes only 1 way) but there it is and its not going to go away any time soon.
- Melanie Reed
Yes, indeed, Twitter is the Microsoft of microblogging. It's good enough, but not the best - but it has the huge advantage that everyone is using it, so you have to use it for compatibility reasons.
- Trent Hamm
I still use Twitter for more than just updates. I converse, I crowdsource, and I read through to see what other people are thinking and talking about. FriendFeed is the one that I have a difficult time finding use for, but I'm trying.
- Dave Huston
DAMN Robert I HATE that you are right on this one!!!!!
- Arleen Anderson
Hopefully you use it for positive self pimping and not for negative pimping... which is inevitable
- Kevin Burrell
If FF would have taken mobile seriously, the game might look different right now
- Alex C. Williams
Alex, they are taking mobile seriously - they sold to Facebook. :-)
- Jesse Stay
I can't see how Twitter can survive Facebook now. FB will bring Twitter down, the only chance they got is to sell to Google.
- Patrik Johansson
What makes people think Facebook or Twitter is all-conquering? There's a new generation coming through, and they aren't using these services. It's very important not to get sucked in by the hype of a service you use. Fanboys will talk up the positives and ignore the negatives, giving you a skewed message. The truth is somewhere in the massive grey area in between.
- Chris Nixon
The new generation uses Facebook a lot, but not Twitter.
- Steph (sh_skew)
from email
Twitter is just a temporary solution for a quick mixture of instant messaging + status updates + chat forum.
- Bora Wiemann
Just having a discussion today that Twitter will eventually go bankrupt when the hype is over
- Khuram Hussain
I don't agree with you Robert. Twitter is easy to use, succinct and versatile. I've made multiple very meaningful connections through my use of twitter. I do like friendfeed's threaded conversations which are great but in a way it only helps those who have big followings like yourself, because people are more apt to comment on your thread than say mine because they know the conversation...
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- Lon Cohen
For example - how do I message you directly so you know I'm speaking to you (i.e. Twitter @ reply) but all your followers and my followers know that we're having a conversation in Twitter back and forth so that they can follow and interject when they want. Everytime we do that we have to start a brand new discussion thread and I have to "tell" you somehow that I'm talking to you. Twitter is like email/phone conversations and friendfeed is like collective blogging/commenting.
- Lon Cohen
Amen, Robert.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
The power and beauty of twitter originate from limitation. Think of it as conversation haiku.
- Brendan
OK, I'm finally sold on Friendfeed. Just after they finally sold to Facebook.
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Welcome and congrats on the launch!
- Lasse Johnsen
interesting - what was the reason?
- Weissman
Hi Andy. I like sitting on some real-time searches, for one. But they've added a box to also post to Twitter as an @ reply, which makes a big difference for me, coming from Twitter. The main thing I still miss is the hand-picked crowd I follow on Twitter. Also, there are people commenting on us here and elsewhere and it doesn't show on Twitter, of course. I can reply to all here. AND,...
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- Terry Jones
Thanks Lasse. It feels great. But also terrifying and overwhelming. It sure would be nice to have some funding right about now.
- Terry Jones
Terry - have you set up an 'imaginary friend' on FF? Check out http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Edd McArdle
Hi Edd. No I haven't, but I'd heard about it. It's funny, because I dreamed up the same thing for FluidDB, which is particularly well suited for something like that, as objects don't have owners. I'll give it a try, thanks.
- Terry Jones
You might try Seesmic's web app; I'm not sure how reliable it is, but it's an alternative that goes in your web browser at least.
- Tristan Seligmann
The only real problem for me is that some users 'like' just about everything they see, and so my feed gets filled up with junk. I could always unfollow them, but when they actually do post and link the quality is good.
- David Semeria
I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:
immaterial, Alfredo, deceth and 300 other people liked this
He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I like how this is starting
- Robert DeBord
o0o0o0
- Mark
Promises ?
- johnpiercy
as its own service?
- Lee
you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death
- Mark
That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember)
- RobinDotNet
A promise is not a guarantee.
- Amit Morson
Such a tease, Robert. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke.
- Louis Gray
Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Continue just as it is? Or with key changes?
- Karma Martell
I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs.
- Louis Gray
If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert.
- Rochelle
Soon.
- Louis Gray
I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down
- Stephen Pickering
Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no?
- sofarsoShawn
It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what.
- Nir Ben Yona
They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday.
- Louis Gray
Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That was a great post Louis
- Stephen Pickering
Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important.
- Louis Gray
Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now.
- RobinDotNet
Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info.
- Mark Edwards
I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed.
- sofarsoShawn
But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store.
- Akiva Moskovitz
was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it
- Mark
I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I am very happy to hear that! I hope it gets bigger than Twitter. It's a much better service.
- Sam Guzman
Stable Door and Horse comes to mind.
- Kevin J Hatton
The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point.
- Ken Sheppardson
Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap.
- Louis Gray
In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, OK but maybe at some point though.
- Kol Tregaskes
I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely.
- Jason Nunnelley
Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing.
- Louis Gray
Robert, What about death and taxes?
- RobinDotNet
Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be
- Robert Anderson
Robert, true. All a bit vague still though.
- Kol Tregaskes
Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate.
- Gary
Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure
- Stephen Pickering
Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now.
- Louis Gray
So what? Do they continue try to grow friendfeed as an individual product? Or do they just leave it alive for those of us who actually use it?
- Sam Guzman
If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it
- Stephen Pickering
Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway.
- Louis Gray
Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :)
- Louis Gray
But this service grows more useful the more users there are
- Stephen Pickering
Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has.
- Frode Stenstrøm
Yeah, I understand. Maybe some of the extra publicity from the acquisition will lead to an increase in users...curious people signing up to see what it's all about.
- Sam Guzman
Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up.
- Rodfather
oh sweet, I just spent ages adding friendfeed people, setting up privacy and setting up FF to stream to my FB....now this might be a waste of time?
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon.
- Louis Gray
I've heard the same from another founder, Robert.
- Anne Bouey
Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
They didn't want to work for google again.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done
- courtney benson
Kinda why they left. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social
- Stephen Pickering
It's all wonky and hard to understand
- Stephen Pickering
But GR is going in that direction.
- Kol Tregaskes
Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone.
- Jeff Sayre
Google Reader is nothing like FF. No one really uses the social features.
- Sam Guzman
GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable
- Stephen Pickering
Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that.
- Louis Gray
Louis, hope so.
- Kol Tregaskes
courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking.
- Robert Scoble
Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers
- Stephen Pickering
Real real time would be awesome in Facebook. I really hope it comes soon.
- Sam Guzman
Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere.
- Robert Scoble
I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb.
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users.
- K N Ajit Narayan
I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook = Microsoft 2.0
- scott anderson
Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07?
- sofarsoShawn
YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today!
- Chris Clayton
Hey, Microsoft had a decent run
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me.
- Robert Scoble
And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours.
- Robert Scoble
@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network.
- Nakeva Corothers
Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes.
- (jeff)isageek
sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page
- Stephen Pickering
jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly.
- Robert Scoble
Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily.
- Jim Posner
Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc.
- Tristan Seligmann
When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term.
- Kol Tregaskes
Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team."
- Chris Clayton
I'm not sure why everyone dislikes Facebook. What's wrong with it?
- Sam Guzman
sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007.
- Louis Gray
Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon.
- Louis Gray
Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!!
- Fred Davis
Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship.
- Louis Gray
He said FF would continue operating normally "for now". That was what freaked people out. But I'm glad to hear that Paul and company have plans to keep the service running for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't want to wake up one morning and find my favorite service was shut down.
- Jason Huebel
Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement.
- Robert Scoble
Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!!
- Fred Davis
No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead.
- Louis Gray
Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice.
- Jim Posner
Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol
- Chris Clayton
If FF were Twitter, we'd be screaming bloody blue murder about how they don't "get" user communication, etc., etc.
- Chris Baskind
Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better.
- RobinDotNet
No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do...
- Fred Davis
Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies.
- Robert Scoble
Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete.
- Derrick
Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :)
- Chris Clayton
RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time...
- Fred Davis
Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
Derrick, there is more than smoke.
- Louis Gray
It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal
- Stephen Pickering
Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important.
- RobinDotNet
Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense
- Stephen Pickering
Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time....
- Fred Davis
Sorry, things are moving fast in this thread. There's a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running?
- Jason Huebel
Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying....
- RobinDotNet
Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it?
- Stephen Pickering
This whole "Friendfeed is dead" mantra is, has, and always will be nothing more than an attempt to get attention. Friendfeed is successful and Facebook would never do anything to destroy that.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too.
- Robert Scoble
Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders.
- Jim Posner
now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google...
- Fred Davis
agreed scoble promoted the service in a big way
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made.
- Robert Scoble
If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it.
- Derrick
Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
LOL, Robert.
- Kol Tregaskes
For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard.
- Fred Davis
Derrick, this is the place to do that. :)
- Louis Gray
"For now". ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Throws sheep at Kol
- Louis Gray
Hehe, Louis.
- Kol Tregaskes
The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer.
- Robert Higgins
What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing?
- Eric
Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Eric, we've been evaluating alternatives in the CloneFeed/OpenFF room. None of them really come anywhere close to what FF offers.
- Jason Huebel
Eric, none of those services are really similar. SocialThing is closest, but FF is still quite a bit different.
- Sam Guzman
Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption...
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- Fred Davis
Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :)
- Eric
So the word now is that FF will be around for a while AND Paul's mentioned the possibility that parts of FF might be open sourced. Any idea what parts?
- Jason Huebel
There has to be an alternative.
- Eric
Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out.
- Robert Scoble
Eric: Not really. Make one.
- Sam Guzman
There was an alternative, but I think it shut down.
- Eric
There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere.
- Louis Gray
It was called SocialThing.
- Eric
Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for).
- Robert Scoble
SocialThing got bought by AOL, and it wasn't as good as FF anyway. You could see people's activity, but there was no real interaction. FF is what it is because of the interaction.
- Sam Guzman
Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted...
- Fred Davis
@Louis, I'm not going anywhere either. But this acquisition not only scared people that FF might go away but also that their data would go with it. So there is /some/ need for alternatives.
- Jason Huebel
It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down.
- Eric
Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment!
- Fred Davis
FriendFeed family or real family?
- Mona Nomura
FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking?
- Eric
I think someone needs to create a web dashboard like FF, but that somehow integrates e-mail.
- Sam Guzman
louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome
- (jeff)isageek
Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way.
- Robert Scoble
Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean...
- Chris Clayton
Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye.
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Wave is like FF?
- Eric
Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts...
- Fred Davis
Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Fred: Then I am really excited to try it.
- Sam Guzman
Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different!
- Chris Clayton
and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net...
- Fred Davis
I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF.
- Eric
Chris: Like the friendfeed stream, you could login and see all your friend's activity, but also see your latest e-mails (Could be easily accessed with a sidebar link, like direct messages). By commenting on an e-mail, you could reply. Just like FF direct messages, but it would send a real e-mail response. Does that make sense?
- Sam Guzman
Now there is Google Reader.
- Eric
Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side.
- Bluesun 2600
That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out!
- Mona Nomura
I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends.
- Zato Gibson
...would continue as independant application or as zombie inside "failbook"? ;-/
- Claude LaFrenière
Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome!
- Chris Clayton
i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more
- (jeff)isageek
Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one.
- Louis Gray
one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share.
- Bluesun 2600
Life2front has anyone heard of it?
- Eric
Chris: Yes, maybe have a subject show up in your feed, and clicking would expand to reveal the full e-mail. Reply's could be generated by commenting on the e-mail. I'm sure FF won't integrate this, but I'm just throwing it out there. It's something I wish some social service would integrate. Either that, or make e-mail inboxes more social. Kind of like Yahoo e-mails new features, but better executed. How cool would it be to login to your e-mail and be greeted by a FF like social stream.
- Sam Guzman
i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook
- (jeff)isageek
Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful.
- Kol Tregaskes
and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it.
- (jeff)isageek
I guess what I'm saying is, don't keep e-mail so separate from the rest of your online social activity. It should be more integrated than it is now, in my opinion. Why not include it in a service like FF?
- Sam Guzman
So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one.
- Dare Obasanjo
Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed!
- Chris Clayton
I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago!
- Chris Clayton
Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already?
- sofarsoShawn
Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, yeah, and I think what I'm describing would take more than just RSS integration. But Kol is right, maybe Google Wave will be the answer :) I can't wait to try it! Especially if other services can be integrated like in FF.
- Sam Guzman
Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :)
- Chris Clayton
Hehe, it will fly by.
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here.
- Dare Obasanjo
As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read.
- Jesse Stay
It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community.
- Ken Sheppardson
And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution.
- Ken Sheppardson
I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different.
- Meryn Stol
Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities.
- Mona Nomura
It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but...
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- Dave Winer
Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position.
- Dave Winer
Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get...
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- Dave Winer
Well put, Mona!
- Jesse Stay
Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value.
- Robert Scoble
Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew.
- Jesse Stay
Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button.
- Rochelle
Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can.
- Julia Ault
Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :)
- Louis Gray
I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news
- Johni Fisher
Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
Wish I was a millionaire like him :/
- Mark
"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva.
- Meryn Stol
Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen.
- Jesse Stay
Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition.
- Jesse Stay
Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there.
- Tristan Seligmann
Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke.
- Akiva Moskovitz
(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options)
- Tristan Seligmann
FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear.
- Rochelle
Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone.
- Tristan Seligmann
Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now.
- Meryn Stol
Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand.
- Jesse Stay
Holden: engagement.
- Robert Scoble
It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else.
- Kathy Fitch
Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste.
- Meryn Stol
I'm sure the FB engineers are competent.
- Meryn Stol
And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case.
- Kathy Fitch
It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head.
- Meryn Stol
Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin'
- Mattb4rd
Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way.
- Rochelle
Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides.
- Todd Hoff
The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word.
- Meryn Stol
Good news. Doin' the right thing!
- Rob Schieber
Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!!
- Jose Luis Santos
Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting.
- Kathy Fitch
How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it?
- John D Reasor
....hmmmm, we got the wrong impression then?
- Mark Essel
Nevermind, I'd feel a helluva lot better with an unattached open social media where I could rely on keeping contacts and connections however weak for as long as I chose to continue using the service.
- Mark Essel
Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it.
- Kim Landwehr
I don't expect FF to go away right away. I just expect things will definitely be different. I do hope that FB does improve, but I am also branching out given the sale.
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