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够靓_够挺 - http://www.ycwb.com/ePaper...
네이버에서 블로그 하시는 분들한테 감히 말씀드립니다. 블로그 이사 캠페인이라도 하세요. 유입이 많다고 좋은 게 아닙니다. 좋은 블로거라면 네이버가 제대로 가도록 조언이나 행동을 하는 것도 필요합니다. 잘못하면 뎁혀지는 물의 개구리가 됩니다.
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클릭을 많이 받는 문서가 사용자를 만족시키는 경향이 높다는 것은 솔직히 이해가 안됨. 한국에서 클릭을 많이 받는 문서는 다 연예정보, 낚시질 기사 아닌가? Share가 많이 된 문서가 정말 좋은 정보라고 생각하는데....
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Free SEO Software Tool & Text Browser, Search Engine Optimization Tools - SEO Browser - http://www.seo-browser.com/
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![联想C305一体电脑城市摄影大赛 [Flickr]](http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/zikay/~5/INnge4czlb8/3825988020_c1ec76ea06_m.jpg "联想C305一体电脑城市摄影大赛 [Flickr]")
东拉西扯：Facebook收了FriendFeed - http://blog.donews.com/keso...
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同意 keso 的觀點 ： "对Facebook来说，或许FriendFeed现有的12名员工的价值，要远远大于网站的价值。"， 這個團隊的(各方面，尤其是技術)能力，的確是千金不換！
- Roger Chen
同意个啥哦，Friendfeed没有发布功能，那么大一个box放在顶上，不是发布的，干嘛用的。 Friendfeed和twitter本质的不同是在conversation上。twitter也是因为先入为主。
- xia
现在下结论还太早
- 我是真砂！
將來會怎樣，沒有人知道，在這個業界，合併失敗的例子遠比成功的例子多。不過認為 Facebook 覬覦的是 FF 團隊的技術能力，應該是目前多數人的主流意見。
- Roger Chen
Friendfeed维持原样， 说不定什么时候friendfeed一样可以很牛X
- xia
太惨了，FF怎么会被facebook收购呢
- 式锋@beta
My First Fail: Adorable Funny Baby Photos - http://myfirstfail.com/#
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So cute!!
- R093r-
from Bookmarklet
so funny
- cch
发现friendfeed上的今日最佳、本周最佳、本月最佳话题基本都是有配图的。果然是读图时代
/sg, picthink, 疯狂的糯米 and 2 other people liked this
^_^的确是这样，有图和有敏感话题的贴一般都比较吸引人，信息时代人们热衷于此
- dimjoker
你给这个主题配图的目的之准备最佳话题？ XD
- R093r-
现在基本能用friendfeed发的都用friendfeed发就是因为它可以用图！俗话说，看图说话嘛
- 疯狂的糯米
不是的，是信息获取和加工的方式。相对来说，一个链接和一张图片的信息量完全不能比，一个链接根本都不想点。从这个意义上来说，google reader有很大的潜力。为什么，因为它什么都能读，这个时候一个链接和一张图片的信息量就近似相等。 Greader要去解决及时性问题。
- xia
不能否认，有些时候真是一图顶千言
- picthink
图是国际语
- /sg
트위터 사용자들은 트윗할 때 twitter.com(web)을 20% 밖에 사용하지 않는다. 그럼 도대체 어디에서 트윗을 하는 거지? 정답은 이곳에 100등까지 있네요 http://twitstat.com/twitter...
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今天居然让我删除“Google打不开的解决方法和IP地址表”这篇文章，现在的网监简直就是一群猪。
Anzai3, defeaten, 砂七 and 2 other people liked this
你可以换一种说法，比如说，本站打不开的解决方法和IP地址表……
- yoshiki
不删除人家就把服务器网线，没办法啊。
- williamlong
表示同情，为啥不搬服务器到国外呢？嘿嘿
- nickyhu
网监是指网上的太监吗？
- xywf
服务器搬到国外 会有网特来测你密码的吧？
- Salt Sharp Sharp
服务器搬到国外那连通知都省了，直接封IP
- IwfWcf
网监的全称是“公共信息网络安全监察”，不是网上的太监。
- williamlong
网监-网上的太监。
- Neolandscaper
有过同样遭遇的人含泪飘过。。。。
- rocyhua
近来的各种事件应该是十一封网保安全的预演……
- 麦圆
지메일(Gmail)의 라벨(label) 기능이 업데이트 되었습니다 http://archmond.pe.kr/2009...
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제가 블로그 태그 입히는 방법에 써먹으려고 한건데 구글에서 선수쳤더라고요 흐흐
- Chang K. Kim
Chang K. Kim // 그래요? ㅋㅋㅋ 살짝 늦으셨네용 ㅋㅋ 그래도 이게 활용 분야가 많아서..
- Kwangsoo Park
지메일에서 편지을 라벨로 드래그하는 기능은 되는지요? 전 어떻게 해봐도 안되는데 영문을 모르겠네요..:(
- geek2live
@mjjin 아 제가 실험실 기능을 활성화 해놔서 보이고 있는건지도 모르겠네요
- Chang K. Kim
Google announces Chrome OS and takes Gmail out of beta the same day. It's like Christmas in July. :) http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Jonathan Meyer, geek2live, Evan Parker and 8 other people liked this
Robert Scoble is all over this since the announcement at http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Swaroop
It's a baby boy :) http://www.labnol.org/home...
A. T., Mark H, Rasmus Lauridsen and 3 other people liked this
Congratulations!
- Luis Martín Vallejo
from email
Congratulations!
- geek2live
I want to be uncle Robin, Amit! :-)
- Robin Good
Yay, congratulations Amit!! :)
- Mona Nomura
Congratulations!
- Micah
互联网上不但有色情，还有什么功和其他反动内容，统统违反中国法律。所以，我们要强烈谴责互联网，并责令其限期整改。如果整改不利，为保护孩子们，以及孩子般天真的国民，呼吁有关部门砍断太平洋光缆。
uty, geek2live, Anoxia and 13 other people liked this
CCTV应该采访你
- darwin|1q84
按CCTV的说法，最应该干掉的是硬盘生产商。google只是一个搜索服务平台，数据可都是保存在硬盘里的。因此硬盘是万恶的，散步、传播、存储大量淫秽信息，严重毒害了青少年。
- yagami
"Let's face it, we're not changing the world. We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn." Seagate ex-CEO 2006年就这么坦白说了。
- 【无声胜有声】
前一阵子不是有个什么“永远活在硬盘中”的说法么……
- 呢喃
光缆有罪，大量境外淫秽，反动的内容都是通过它散布传播的呀
- vintone
整改？色情只是幌子，谁都知道！！党在为当年开放互联网的错误决定做最大努力挽回呢！
- wu honghao
高也是CCAV的棋子，CCAV是D的棋子。互联网给D带来了太多的烦恼！
- 黄色蜻蜓
怪不得什么事情都不符合逻辑呢
- NIUZHU
砍互联网的刀砍完后也要一并限期整改，然后再逮捕铁匠、卖刀商，对钢铁厂警告。
- 老巫
悖论好！
- 硕少
黄色蜻蜓, ShiningRay, a_dream and 4 other people liked this
中国成年人根本就不知道有boobs这个词,直到比新东方还伟大的英语教育机构ccav教会大家..
- 麦克.疯
答：你有孩子吗？
- Kunshou（困兽）
顶困兽，答的好。有兴趣加入真理部吗？请拨打求职喝茶电话——110
- yagami
这个回答是传说中的经典反问啊，我天朝脑残的最爱（当然不是指困兽XD）
- R093r-
NA.
- 【无声胜有声】
看了CCTV学了这些词。
- zgjie
全民CCAV化
- 玄三
我觉得这很荒谬，成年人有权看色情内容，居然让那帮傻逼拿我们纳税人的钱来为我们护航！！！
- Bannka
好像在以马列主义为信仰的帝国，成人观看色情内容也是非法的吧。无产阶级者是用共产主义信仰武装起来的战斗者，哪里来的X欲这回事！
- Ting Liu
IE as customizable as Firefox and as fast as Chrome?!? http://www.microsoft.com/windows... What do you think--early April Fools joke? :)
RAPatton, Nicholas Chase, Cem Ozkaynak and 37 other people liked this
"Only Internet Explorer 8 has both tab isolation and crash recovery features; Firefox and Chrome have one or the other. " Chrome has both, right?
- Ionut
Safari is not included in this chart. I would like to see that as well.
- Louis Gray
"Internet Explorer 8 is more compatible with more sites on the Internet than any other browser." That's why Microsoft had to add the Compatibility View.
- Ionut
Of course IE8 wins this joke
- Jordi Rosell
"Internet Explorer 8 passes more of the World Wide Web Consortium's test cases than any other browser." Citation needed.
- Ionut
Is it true that if you use IE8 that it only works with bing?
- Thomas Hawk
I want to see the same tests conducted by an un-biased third party.
- Kiran Patchigolla
"IE8 also wins the crash test. It's the most crashing browser ever."
- Eren Emre Kanal
That's a joke. Even some plain standard JS DOM manipulation that works in FF, Safari + Chrome fails in IE.
- Sebastian
Yet another example of "just because someone wrote it down, doesn't make it true."
- James Myatt
I'm pretty sure they mean "IE just got around to passing a bunch of old deprecated tests. We win." Also, I've found the IE slices and accelerators aren't all that user friendly. How are newbies supposed to understand what that crap is for?
- mrshl
Marshall: Using accelerators only requires enough intelligence to right-click and navigate the ensuing context menu. Slices, yeah, they aren't as user friendly, but they're still stupidly simple to use.
- Chris Charabaruk
If it worked on Linux, as do many widely used great softwares, I'd use it 'from time to time': I'm tired of having to reboot just to test how a website looks within IE. Which reminds me.. the 'standards' question. Aw.. sorry ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
other browser's 5x times Javascript speed of IE8 can definitely be detected, it's not nanosecond difference, more like hundreds of milliseconds on complex Javascript applications. Sure, for standard HTML it's fine, but for something like a Zoho app or Gmail, you can tell the difference. For my application, the difference is between rendering 60+ frames per second, and a jerky irritating...
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- Ray Cromwell
My point, Charabaruk, is that using these features as IE has set them up, is actually harder for users than Chrome, Firefox or Safari. It virtually requires users to customize their browser. Something Firefox, Chrome, and Safari don't do. Microsoft is pretending that requiring their users to "set up" accelerators and slices is easier than what the competition offers. That's not the case.
- mrshl
It may sound strange, but I moved from Chrome to IE8. Page rendering is superfast (better than Chrome), and the whole thing feels more solid than Chrome. Accelerators are nice too. Over long periods of time it's a memory hogger, though.
- Kirill Petrovsky
I use just about every browser out there on several OSs but I'd rather be using Chrome all the time. Safari on mac works well, but blows on windows. IE8 starts to fall apart when I have more than 20 tabs open, which is often. I've also had problems with IE8 not caching ssl certs for VPNs.
- John
IE8 is the only browser that gives you a bonus dialog during the acid 3 test; it deserves two checks for standards: http://skipall.com/37.jpg
- Kelly Norton
On what planet did they test those?
- Ozberk Olcer
IE8 developer tools - They are much better then previous IE versions, but I'd take firefox with firebug any day.
- Mike Child
Most people don't know how cars work, but can certainly tell upon driving two very different cars, which has better performance. The first time someone writes a JS intensive game, they'll notice.
- Ray Cromwell
RT @kunshou: RT @easthero: RT @flypig: 贵国的 CCTV 终于在网站上 (页面地址：http://news.cctv.com/special... ) 替秦刚老师承认了 GFW 的存在，请看截图：http://twitpic.com/7silp ！ (CCTV ...
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We started including FriendFeed subscriber counts when we crawl your blog's feed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Amarnath Prabhakar, HealingBrush, Ruben Sanchez and 175 other people liked this
This means that, if you use a service FeedBurner, your subscriber totals will include FriendFeed subscribers in addition to subscriber counts from Google Reader, Bloglines, etc. For a lot of people like me, this will be a pretty significant boost in your overall subscriber numbers.
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
This is great! Thanks!
- Stephen Mack
Not sure why it is called "friendfeedagg" right now :) We will ask them to make the name a bit friendlier, but the stats are there nonetheless.
- Bret Taylor
What service did Kevin use to make that pie chart in the example?
- Stephen Mack
Thanks again to the FeedBurner team for working with us on this one - they were incredibly responsive and great to work with.
- Bret Taylor
Stephen: the chart comes from FeedBurner ( http://feedburner.google.com/fb...)
- Bret Taylor
from email
Very interesting !
- Farzad
Great!
- انجل
You can add your blog to your FriendFeed profile (if it isn't already there) at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
not sure if i like it...
- zio bonino
There is a problem. My followers on FriendFeed follow all my feeds, not only my blog. So the "attention focus" is different between one user that follows directly my blog via RSS and an user that follows all about me. Two different counts in the main page of FeedBurner, RSS and FF, would be great.
- Alessandro Di Nicola
and for the reach stats? it's crawled?
- Felter Roberto
I'm not sure this was the right thing to do. Yes, there are 200 people subscribed to me on friendfeed, and my blog entries fly by in their feed. But from the Google Analytics stats, there are essentially no referrals from friendfeed to actually read the blog posts. Someone who subscribes to the blog RSS feed can be said to have an intent to actually read the blog, A subscriber on friendfeed doesn't necessarily have such an intent.
- DGentry
Unfortunately I suspect we'll see a TechCrunch article soon about "How To Inflate Your Subscriber Numbers Using friendfeed.com!" Edit: like the one they wrote about netvibes http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- DGentry
I agree with DGentry and Alessandro, this may not be a good idea. The problem could occur when Twitter and Facebook start reporting subscribers in the same way. This could start a very bad trend.
- Rob Diana
Hmm, I'm not sure if I like that. It surely inflates the subscriber-stats for the Feedburner-Feeds.
- Marcel Weiß
I think this is a disaster for feedburner. I publish a full feed from my blog so subscribers get the same content they would have if they visited the site. I can lump that into traffic as if they were a site visitor. But friendfeed merely publishes a headline so those friend feed subscribers have a very different experience than the ordinary RSS or email subscribers. In looking at recent traffic, only 10 referrals out of 7,000 came from friendfeed.
- Doug Cornelius
I agree - I am not loving this for my feedburner stats, seems not quite right. To me it seems like FF subs are subscribing less to my blog feed and more to me and my general commentary/presence on FF. It seems a little inflationary for rss sub numbers. I prefer to keep them separate, rss subs and ff subs.
- felix
but feedburner shown who "WANT" read our feed o who CAN read it? i think the second. And now it's the same. :)
- Felter Roberto
I'm awaiting Louis Gray's opinion. I think he had 8,500 RSS subscribers before, and now has 13,814. Which is the more accurate representation of the number of regular readers of louisgray.com ?
- DGentry
perhaps is better crawl blog's feed really show in FF. If i go out and my pc in off all the day, my google reader don't read any feed e my ff don't show me any message, Feedburner count me for FF and don't for google reader. And tomorrow, when i turn on my pc, my google reader download all the feed and i can read also the post of the day before, but FF show me only the last message and i lose all of the post.
- Felter Roberto
Whoa, awesome!! FriendFeed rocks! :) My new blog at http://susanbeebe.com now has a huge potential for additional subscribers due to this great new feature FF just added, THANK YOU! :)
- Susan Beebe
Wow my subscribers just jumped up 3000%
- Ralph Whitbeck
What's done can not be theoretically undone - so if this is the way it is, it should stay, or our one-time blips will look odd, won't they? DGentry, I don't know if I am in love with it. I think Rob is right in terms of it rendering the number meaningless. I've been excited to see my numbers go from 5,000 to 8,000 naturally (I guess) in the last two months. This means I can't celebrate that jump.
- Louis Gray
Doug said: "But friendfeed merely publishes a headline so those friend feed subscribers have a very different experience than the ordinary RSS or email subscribers." A lot of people use Google Reader in list view, which is *almost* the same thing as just seeing a title. There's no way to differentiate between those subscribers and ones which see the full content. Or subscribers that choose to mark all your items as read or just ignore them without even looking at the titles.
- Tony Ruscoe
For Louis, I guess the saving grace here is that you can see the breakdown in FeedBurner and choose to ignore FriendFeed if you wish. That means you can still watch your "normal" subscriber numbers climb and celebrate hitting 8,000 subscribers naturally. (You just can't share that number in a chicklet...)
- Tony Ruscoe
Tony: agreed these issues already exist for RSS subscription counts, and for web based readers such as gReader users could be counted even if completely inactive
- Mike Chelen
If someone subscribes to me on FriendFeed but also subscribes via other means - are those deduped or do they essentially get counted twice?
- AJ Kohn
AJ, I assume yes.
- Louis Gray
They get double counted, naturally.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
What if more than one user has the same feed, like Philipp and I do for the Google Blogoscoped blog feed? Does that add together both of our subscriber totals? And does it include all the subscribers for all the groups where it's been added too? (Cross-posted from http://ff.im/47QNJ.)
- Tony Ruscoe
One clear flaw of this is that my wife's blog at http://www.thegrayeffect.com, says it now has more than 9,300 readers, up from 50 yesterday. That's clearly wrong.
- Louis Gray
This is very bad! Of course I'd like higher numbers of RSS subscribers but this is a fake number. Please consider this again...
- Marko Saric
Louis I think thats the general problem: when someone subscribes to you on ff, are they also a subscriber to you on every one of the services you import? You import thegrayeffect.com as an RSS feed, and you have 9270 subscribers here, therefore thegreyeffect.com has 9270 new readers. More broadly, does a subscriber to the aggregate feed also count as a subscriber to every individual component of that feed? Or is the sum greater than the individual parts?
- DGentry
I saw a huge jump in subscribers today. I thought that Feedburner was broken. This explains it.
- Gary
Tony and Louis, the multi-author blog is one of those feeds that causes problems. I did not like this to start, and I am beginning to think I like it even less.
- Rob Diana
I hope Twitter and others don't get the same idea...
- Marko Saric
Hummm. As much as I like the idea, it seems destined to provide incentive for people to beg for subscribers here on FriendFeed which is exactly the behavior that I seek to avoid, and has been generally devoid on FriendFeed to date. It rewards FriendFeed usage and - as such - helps FriendFeed grow but ... is it the *right* growth?
- AJ Kohn
OK. Now I understood why my Feedburner count was inflated. I think, this is not a right thing to do.
- Krishnamoorthy
I actually REALLY dislike this A LOT. My subscriber count was a great measuring stick for me and also a solid indication of how many people -might- actually be reading my content. The vast majority of my subscribers here aren't reading my blog. It's very misleading and makes the RSS subscriber count a lot more meaningless to me.
- Ryan Stephens
Rob, one of the oddities here is that FriendFeed shows more than 9,000 adds to TheGrayEffect, but only about 5,000 to louisgray.com. That may be due to deduplication, but it is certainly odd.
- Louis Gray
howtomakemyblog: Twitter and Friendfeed are in this regard completely different services and I therefor don't see any way in which Twitter could do something like this. But Jaiku might do it.
- Horst Gutmann
from IM
I'm wondering, though: are people who hide the blog feed substracted from the number of subscribers?
- Horst Gutmann
from IM
The easy fix is to disconnect my blog feed from FriendFeed. Otherwise the subscriber numbers are useless. --- So I did. That seems like a bad result for FriendFeed.
- Doug Cornelius
Wow Doug, you chose Feedburner stat purity over FF conversations? That's pretty surprising to me. I suppose you can always tweet your posts into FF if you really want 'em to show up.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
I just deleted my blog feed from FriendFeed... it's a stupid change really... fake, inflated numbers... it's much easier to get a FriendFeed subscriber than a real RSS subscriber. And also a real RSS subscriber is much more likely to take a look at your article than a FriendFeed one.... spammers that want to boost their RSS subscriber numbers will love this though!
- Marko Saric
I can't help but notice that Marko and Doug have 350ish FF comments each. I suppose that shades your perception of this change in a different way than it might for someone who - like me - has orders of magnitude more FF comments than blog posts.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, the fact that they have a smaller comment count should be concerning to FriendFeed because those are the users they need to keep. People like myself and more active users are not going anywhere.
- Rob Diana
HAHAH - now i see what happened - i don't use my feedburner feed here for CN - but for my other sites I do - so now I see I got about 2,000-2,500 bump for those feeds today - yea, like 2,500 people coming to insidetransit every day - i wish! as Rob says, these numbers are meaningless and shouldn't be reported this way. just like the other "defaults" on some of the other services like google reader. mystery solved.
- Allen Stern
Oh yeah I'm not saying FF should keep the feature as is - it's misleading at best - just that I was surprised that anyone values their Feedburner count over their FF stream's purity.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
So who's really at fault here? FF for taking advantage of Feedburner's poor implementation of subscriber counts or Feedburner for offering the possibility?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Do you think FriendFeed had any idea there would be this many people talking about it?
- Rob Diana
So is it better to turn it off altogether or to make it a toggleable feature that users can choose to use or abuse at their discretion?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
@Rob - Who knows what FF expected, but it's really cool to see discussion evolving around this in a live FF thread. People are being mostly civil and constructive and it's all happening right here on the FF thread. I guarantee you FF HQ is reading this and staying hands off for a few hours until they can figure out a solid response.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Instead of deleting your blog feed from FriendFeed, you could just provide FriendFeed with your actual feed URL instead of the FeedBurner one. (I don't think the feed URL actually gets published anywhere by FriendFeed, does it?)
- Tony Ruscoe
daniel - you cant do that - then x blog says "we have y subs" while z blog says "we have a subs" and x gets the ad deal because they have more subs, etc. sadly advertisers and agencies still don't get that the number is meaningless.
- Allen Stern
@Allen - Most of us here aren't directly making money off of subscriber counts, but I appreciate that this would be an issue of great importance to you.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel: No matter how active you are on FriendFeed, if you think a FriendFeed subscriber is just as valuable to your blog as your RSS subscriber, you are fooling yourself. And I am talking about value to your blog as that is what RSS subscriber number represents, not about relationships / conversations etc. you might have wit hyour "subscriber" on FriendFeed...
- Marko Saric
I think my Friendfeed network is more valuable to me than my blog's readership, but I still keep the blog around for the few unique things it can offer me: A well-developed body of work to point to in professional situations, google juice, and a place to share long-form ideas.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
So if I could get Robert Scoble, Jason Calacanis and Leo Laporte to add my post-every-six months blog to their feeds, does that mean Feedburner would show I have 100K subscribers?
- Ken Sheppardson
This will definitely be abused by spammers who will use it as an opportunity to inflate their RSS numbers and make their blogs seem more important to potential advertisers, readers, subscribers etc who are unaware of this FriendFeed change.
- Marko Saric
Jason Calacanis To Pay Friendfeed $200,000 For Spot on Suggested Users List
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
+1 Daniel
- Allen Stern
There's no reason Twitter couldn't turn around and do the same thing, right? Heck, they could set up a service to automatically tweet your RSS feed over to Twitter on your behalf, then just add the number of Twitter subscribers you have to their stats. I think this is more a Feedburner fail than a FriendFeed issue.
- Ken Sheppardson
Seems like maybe somebody took all the "Have you ditched Google Reader for FriendFeed" threads the wrong way... hm.
- Ken Sheppardson
What about making this optional per feed?
- Horst Gutmann
from IM
Ken, right now Twitter doesn't request any feeds though. Those numbers get into FeedBurner by FriendFeed providing a subscriber count in the USER_AGENT header when they request the feed.
- Tony Ruscoe
I'm surprised Feedburner agreed to this. Next Twitter will ask that followers on their service count as readership.
- Aviv
Aviv - that presumes that FF and FB had a discussion about this. It reads to me like FB always allowed polling agents to specify a subscriber count via their API and that the FF team just decided to change the way they utilize that feature.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
If someone subscribes to your blog feed using Google Reader, it doesn't mean they read it. Likewise, if someone subscribes to your FriendFeed, they may or may not read your blog posts. Subscriber numbers are all about reach. I see no difference between FriendFeed and Google Reader. Your subscribers see what you're posting and decide whether they want to read it. Using web analytics...
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- Tony Ruscoe
tony +1
- Horst Gutmann
from IM
Tony, you're right about RSS subscribers being able to skip over your posts at will but there's still a disctinction to be made between subscribing directly to a blog feed (traditional) versus subscribing to the totality of a person's shared activity (friendfeed). The former implies an explicit interest in the blog, the latter does not. Moreover FF makes it trivial for a user to subscribe to a person and then perma-hide their blog posts if for example you like talking to Louis Gray but not about his blog.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Tony, you have to agree that subscribing on Google Reader means at the very least that right now, at the time of adding that subscription, you have the intention of reading future blog posts. But with FF, I don't think I'm even aware of blogs maintained by 90% of the people I'm subscribed to.
- Aviv
VERY cool.
- Shey
Daniel, Aviv, good points. But I think that by subscribing to a person, you're generally interested in them and what they have to say. Blogs are merely a subset of that person. The big problem for me is that there's no way to verify that you own a blog feed, so (I think) it will inflate your subscribers if it's added to multiple user accounts and groups even without your permission.
- Tony Ruscoe
To put it another way, should anyone in your field care that your mom reads your blog? We all know she's just doing it because she loves you, not because your blog is so gosh darned wonderful. FF subscribers in FB stats are the same thing - people like *you* and while that might carry over to a limited interest in your blog it certainly doesn't imply that many of them have ever read it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
I subscribe to blogs of people I know because of who they are (in addition to blogs which interest me) even if I'm not particularly interested in the subject they write about just in case they write something I like. The fact that I know them and like them as a person often means we've got at least one thing in common. And vice versa. I like reading lots of my FriendFeed subscriptions' blogs but I've never subscribed in Google Reader, so FriendFeed is currently the only way they can see me as a statistic.
- Tony Ruscoe
Fb must count only the number of post link shown on FF, exactly how count how much feed google reader download from the blog. it's different that to use the contact number at all. it's possible? i don't know
- Felter Roberto
from twhirl
Innovative. I don't use FeedBurner on my blog, so not seeing the effect. Still relying on the Google Reader count of subscribers.
- Hutch Carpenter
Yet another great reason for a blogger to invest time in the friendfeed community!
- Garin Kilpatrick
So ... if I convince other people to use my blog as one of their fed items, then I pick up the amount of people who are subscribed to them as well? Or create a new account and put a few different blogs on it and get people to subscribe. Or 'trade' a feed for a feed with others to boost each other's counts? The more I think about this, the more I dislike it.
- AJ Kohn
Hmm nice. Just jumped from about 5 to 148 with tobiasverhoog.com I do think though that friendfeeders may read my feed differently than subscribers via Google Reader or another feedreader.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Uh, maybe it's because I have not had my coffee but where do I see this shiny chart? Friendfeed? Feedburner?
- Rick Cogley
Rick: you can see it in FeedBurner
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret: thanks. Yes indeed it's there. :-)
- Rick Cogley
and another thing to add onto what Daniel has been saying: hides. if I have 10 FF subscribers but 3 of them are hiding my blog entries, does it report the subscriber to Feedburner as 10, or 7? if it's the former, then the Feedburner stats become really inflated.
- chrisofspades
also, there's nothing in FriendFeed that stops me from importing someone else's blog, which means I can artificially inflate their Feedburner stats without them even knowing I did it. seems ripe for gaming, to me.
- chrisofspades
Right, Chris. As I have 9,000 potential to add to you, I'll start selling slots for $9k.
- Louis Gray
as enticing as that is Louis, I don't have a blog ;)
- chrisofspades
how does it know to link it to your feedburner?
- Gary
Gary, first of all you need to be using FeedBurner for your blog feed. Each time FF requests your feed, they include the number of subscribers in the user agent string. FeedBurner then uses that number to include in the stats for your feed. (If you don't use FeedBurner, you'll still be able to see the stats in your web logs each time your feed is requested.)
- Tony Ruscoe
from fftogo
If people are being exposed to my blog headlines, no matter if it’s on an RSS reader or FriendFeed, they should be counted as potential audience. At the end of the day, the much more important metric to measure is the actual visits to your blog and how often they visit afer that. I've posted some thoughts about it here http://bit.ly/N0jQc
- Jorge Escobar
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