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Re: My Take on Adobe’s Announcements Yesterday at the MAX Conference - http://scottkelby.com/2013...
"This really does read like an Adobe press release. Objectivity and neutrality will go a long way toward preserving your reputation. The bottom line is this approach is actually cloud-based licensing to increase consumer costs and control piracy. The software is not cloud, only the license verification is, plus the ability to download new versions if you are under a subscription. Costs will go up for buyers, which is the bottom line."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: GoInstant to be Acquired by Salesforce.com - http://www.goinstant.com/goinsta...
"Jevon, Congratulations, this is wonderful news for both GoInstant and Salesforce"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: GoInstant to be Acquired by Saleforce.com - http://www.goinstant.com/goinsta...
"Jevon, Congratulations, this is wonderful news for both GoInstant and Salesforce"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Moving on to TechCrunch - http://alexhwilliams.com/post...
"Congrats -- wishing you great success!!"
- Michael Krigsman
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good morning friendly people.
- Paul E. Ester
Has anyone told Tina what a great job she does? Thank you Tina!
- Paul E. Ester
oh my gosh, how nice! Thank you for being here Paul.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good morning! Absolutely correct Paul!
- Robert Scoble
Also a big Tina fan ==>
- Laura Norvig
wow, is this my birthday? I'll have to check facebook!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's gonna be a short one today. At least for me. I gotta leave in 15 minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Tina is a star, yes
- Kevin Marks
My web-based twitter hasn't changed yet, as far as I can tell.
- Laura Norvig
the Path thing is a demographic thing. Rich, smart, techies use Apple products. That's all.
- Laura Norvig
From (very) recent experience, developing for the fragmented Android ecosystem is a pain in the ass, compared to iOS. That's why iOS seem to come first for devs.
- kosso
They've changed it so much, we, the people who made Twitter what it is today, will leave.
- kosso
they know we won't leave, we put up with the site being down half the time for years
- Kevin Marks
Testing is a pain the ass. SAP just announced delayed release of a community platform to two million users because of problems that showed up during late testing.
- Michael Krigsman
not testing is even more of a pain in the ass
- Kevin Marks
Twitter is now a product being led by too much money, managed by people searching for a business model, hiring too many people without a clue. IMHO
- kosso
Robert, life is about putting up with third parties we don;t like :-)
- Michael Krigsman
scoble has 4000 apps on his phone
- Kevin Marks
how/why is Path any better/different than what is already out there?
- Laura Norvig
just joined ... were you talking about the Kindle? the NOOK is where the action will be ..... Barnes & Noble owns or manages 57% of College Bookstores ..... think eTextbooks
- studentforce
the first iPhone didn't have apps...
- Kevin Marks
It's just a joke. But also a mathematical truism. http://norvig.com/norvigs...
- Laura Norvig
Te and Chai are the Mandarin and Cantonese ways of pronouncing the chinese character for Tea
- Kevin Marks
Twitter App's least common redesign buried retweets and @mentions http://daringfireball.net/2011...
- clive boulton
hubspot is marketing WITH customers rather than at customers ... with metrics
- studentforce
ERP is dead is where you were going. Zuora ?????
- studentforce
there we go. in the past 5 minutes there were at least three references to SCHOOL and GRADES and textbooks !!!!!!
- studentforce
steve is pushing the rewind button of his mind
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I totally agree with that. gives the salesperson confidence that the time spent is worthwhile
- studentforce
nope. eloqua solved that problem. you are talking about retail .... has not trickled down yet.
- studentforce
i think Kevin was crying.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I had something in my eye
- Kevin Marks
kevin is using the dust in his yard to cover up the sobbing ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
steve's thunking about jillian tett's: men, woman - and machines (self curating rogue chatter bots)
- clive boulton
social is the ability to 'work a room' digitally ?????
- studentforce
dead to me
- Kevin Marks
OR human beings are incredibly simply and somewhat stupid
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's hard to say what is dead or not dead, but easier to say what we want: clearly defined circles and noise controls so important signals always get to us when we need them.
- Laura Norvig
reportive ?
- studentforce
rapportive
- Kevin Marks
what I also want: less platforms.
- Laura Norvig
we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty, laura
- Kevin Marks
;-)
- Laura Norvig
thanks Kevin !!
- studentforce
to what degree does the ability to tweet begin to influence the events being tweeted about - did that make sense ??
- studentforce
smarter feedback loops
- Laura Norvig
you still need a baseline of connections to get your foot in the door
- Laura Norvig
ne1 doing a good job injecting social into ERP... (is there life on Mars)
- clive boulton
"Mostly Harmless"
- kosso
how about that article
- Kevin Marks
home phones are dead
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I stopped answering my landline ages ago. 100% screened.
- Laura Norvig
You guys in the USA having to pay for incoming calls has to be the most ludicrous thing ever. I couldn't believe. It's kind of understandable for international roamers. but. still. Nuts.
- kosso
that's why the bill wont pass. gov doesnt want to be responsible for phone bills
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What OSS license will WebOS be done with? This question has yet to be answered.
- kosso
WebOS all depends on HP's open source governance, and their record is hardly pristine so far.
- Michael Mahemoff
yes, I'm assuming a sensible license there, not a Javaesque situation
- Kevin Marks
If they're smart, they'll go with a standard (permissive) license, not a weird legalese one-off license which doesn't fit into corporate policies.
- Michael Mahemoff
However, Amazon (and Facebook?) forking Android may have freaked them out against any possibility of a permissive license.
- Michael Mahemoff
Kevin: My results...We last saw Scoble 5969km away from you, 3 days ago.
- Alex de Soto
point is it's a web page that asks your location
- Kevin Marks
Chrome 16 introduced optional permissions (for apps/extensions) http://code.google.com/chrome... to stop everything having to be accepted upfront.
- Michael Mahemoff
curation tools
- studentforce
Second Economy (anchored off SF) http://blogs.parc.com/blog...
- clive boulton
Live Gang - yay!
- clive boulton
Evernote’s Skitch Sees 3 Million Downloads On Android http://techcrunch.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
Livegang sounds fun
- Paul E. Ester
Live Gang would be great!
- Alex de Soto
my son's birthday yesterday
- Kevin Marks
good show .... thanks!
- studentforce
happy birthday Kevin's son yesterday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry, but December babies are ill-timed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have two!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Лана Приекуле, Morton Fox, Gimminy and 8 other people liked this
Hello!
- Maciej Głuszek
I am in Viadeo's San Francisco office today. I'm now standing by.
- Robert Scoble
hi Robert. real soon
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and I'm at home...
- Kevin Marks
Awesome, I'm busy judging apps anyway so every minute is cool. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Scoble is racked (excuse the pun) and loaded
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin is up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Borthwick is in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Taschek is ready
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Let's rock and roll!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you should use this test card: http://www.thesystempredicts.com/wp-cont... or recreate it
- Kevin Marks
HD version: http://gonedigital.net/wp-cont...
- Kevin Marks
Land of cranky - me too!
- clive boulton
Ignoring Scoble's photo Pron is best news of week.
- Aron Michalski
John should talk about Mog vs Spotify
- Michael Krigsman
Stanford oval had been decked out with candles for Steve Jobs memorial http://yfrog.com/g09slnj
- clive boulton
The Gov gave the MSM an exclusive, 3 min,
- Aron Michalski
Nice. Scoble is Siri for Twitter.
- Michael Markman
Guess It's appropriate I have him blocked. No AI for me...
- Aron Michalski
no, Siri waits to be asked
- Kevin Marks
Noise control fro google plus: unfollow scoble
- Kevin Marks
+1 Kevin, -100 Scoble...
- Aron Michalski
Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Apple working on a TV: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busines...
- Robert Scoble
Geez I blew the recording in the beginning. oh who will hire me now?!?!?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
having trouble with Kevin's stability
- Tina Chase Gillmor
seeing a lot of packet loss
- Kevin Marks
Tina: If only Richard Nixon were still alive!
- Alex de Soto
I can go get my verizon mifi as an alternative, I think comcast is flaking on me
- Kevin Marks
let's see Kevin. If it happens again - switch
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Siri is not on 100m yet, only on the new 4S's
- Kevin Marks
Having commentary hold until the event happens would improve cable news.
- Aron Michalski
The inane conjecture punditry is such a negitive gesture.
- Aron Michalski
OK Kevin - switch to verizon
- Tina Chase Gillmor
in any medium.
- Aron Michalski
How about Abe Vigoda's voice?
- Aron Michalski
switched
- Kevin Marks
Harvey Fierstein?
- Aron Michalski
aron !!! ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple will learn gobs from the Siri queries it's not yet able to answer. That's invaluable data for enhancements.
- Michael Markman
So...they're pulling a Google?
- Rahsheen?
Imagine that... a feature becoming a data scraper.
- Aron Michalski
more than pulling a Google, they're intercepting queries that might otherwise go to Google
- Michael Markman
siri is a layer above Google, Bing, Wolfram, etc that apple controls... they can pass queries anywhere.
- Michael Markman
my friends with autistic children all love their ipads
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: they will love this app.
- Robert Scoble
It's one of the best things about having both an Apple and Android device is seeing what's being blocked or obvoscated by one side or the other.
- Aron Michalski
MetaTalk (coming soon).
- Robert Scoble
i hear typing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and believe me, they are.
- Aron Michalski
Throwing in a superfluous Wow! for MetaTalk.
- Michael Markman
If that interface says nutsack, I'm muting.
- Aron Michalski
Taschek is hittin the bottle hard today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apps like Siri moving HCI from academia to main stream
- clive boulton
welcome back Clive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thx, Tina
- clive boulton
i haven't updated to OS% yet. Everyone else in my family has and is very excited about it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i love that google is "over" facebook. me too!
- Stephen
I haven't been offered iOS 5 updates on any device yet; presumably I need to do the big slow sync first
- Kevin Marks
ooooh, Obama tracking
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I wish one of these things would display HTML. People are making Images instead.
- Kevin Marks
i'm not interested in Google+ yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what will it take for you to like G+, tina?
- Stephen
G+ for Photography is +1
- Aron Michalski
Vic said they'd stop being dicks about names
- Kevin Marks
that's a start
- Stephen
I love Google+. I get a lot of engagement
- Francine Hardaway
Google+ API more directions than Steve Yeggies 5000 word Rant indicated http://bit.ly/paMfH2
- clive boulton
I just haven't been pulled in. No benefit over Twitter for me right now. Feels like duplication right now to me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Activity Streams is what you need
- Kevin Marks
i'm surprised my kid isn't using Google hangout
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mine use skype to hang out
- Kevin Marks
mine too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
while they are playing games or doing homework
- Kevin Marks
as a teen, i would've loved G hangout over AIM
- Stephen
you'd think so but they're not using it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
does skype support 10 people in one convo?
- Stephen
it does in audio, which is what they want; they have a shared world in the game or the document
- Kevin Marks
i'm doing this in audio only today...
- Kevin Marks
I have a Circle of Gillmor Gang:-) Or more accurately, one of Newsgang
- Francine Hardaway
back to the bottle, tina
- John Taschek
i have a GIllmor Gang circle too. Is yours interesting Francine?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin here's the video
- Steve Gillmor
is it Pepsi staight or diet coke on the rocks John?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Well, as interesting as Mickeleh, Karoli, Aroniski, Rob LaG., Scoble, Taschek, Steve, Kevin, Borthwick you, etc can be
- Francine Hardaway
can you use it in a sentence?
- Stephen
Francine... right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
odd. leave the video off
- Kevin Marks
Skype has an established population. Pulling people over to g+ hangouts is as much effort as pulling people in from FB.
- Michael Markman
smack!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
video doesn't add that much if it's just faces. All it does is cost your more attention.
- Michael Markman
"There needs no ghost come from the grave to tell us that," Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
hahaha
- Michael Markman
what about Tango?
- Stephen
microsoft has a track record of acquiring things that should breathe life into it... but they never do. The Microsoft culture smothers them all.
- Michael Markman
Microsoft Research can barely do it (Kinect being the only exception I can think of)
- Kevin Marks
yes Private messages Steve doesn't see!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i like it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Xbox in general is an exception to Microsoft's patterns.
- Michael Markman
Something keeps dinging in the studio. driving me freaking crazy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
steve ipad I think
- Tina Chase Gillmor
haha i've been hearing robert talk about the noise since G+ first came out. maybe he has a point?
- Stephen
I love this Gang. you rock guys
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you don't know what is noise; how could an algorithm?
- Kevin Marks
hey Occupy Wall Street is hanging in there
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeggie posted an update credits Google for listening and Bezos for war stories http://bit.ly/nRGLkb
- clive boulton
Robert filters me out
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sometimes noise is good. You may find out about something you were not tracking but may have great impact on your life.
- Alex de Soto
Anyone here following the development of hypothes.is ?
- Debi Jones
@alex relevant noise is fine by me
- Stephen
there was buzz about hypothes.is at IIW, haven't tried it yet
- Kevin Marks
agree w/ Alex. the perfect filter puts us into a cage lined with mirrors
- Michael Markman
how about ifttt.com ?
- Kevin Marks
A retardant? Sounds like a chemical they put in children's pajamas
- Francine Hardaway
Tina: I filter you out into my "better pay attention" folder.
- Robert Scoble
there are a few Steve projects in the pipeline
- Michael Markman
aw Robert, I'm touched
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Can't we just treat all this as a stream that floats by, and reconcile ourselves to missing some things?
- Francine Hardaway
you just dont want to get smacked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think the Apple TV stuff is much farther out.
- Michael Markman
which could be done with a software upgrade for Apple TV 2
- Jerome Hughes
He was terrified that Apple would suffer the same post-founder fate as HP
- Michael Markman
sync sanc sunc?
- Francine Hardaway
i hear the meaning of life is chocolate
- Stephen
And it will, Michael
- Francine Hardaway
It is inevitable
- Francine Hardaway
but it may be postponable
- Michael Markman
Google+ readies new features... http://bit.ly/oFoAKm
- clive boulton
Sure. They sold it. They're out
- Francine Hardaway
like traffic, when it was experimental, there was plenty of detail, then it got packaged and it's a summary at best
- Jerome Hughes
i think Robert just annouced it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
battery died on the mifi. not my day
- Kevin Marks
Siri is one of those things you say "wow" about but don't use much. Like Facetime
- Francine Hardaway
I would use Siri non-stop if I had it.
- Stephen
Robert says we're all on Facebook, but that's not so. I deleted my account there.
- Debi Jones
Not after it gave you a few snarky unhelpful answers
- Francine Hardaway
What's the IP on Siri like? Can Android implement a similar feature?
- Stephen
I love a bit of snark :)
- Stephen
Debi: people who aren't on Facebook are weird.
- Robert Scoble
Nice, Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
I suppose I"m weird, too, then.
- Stephen
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Yep, that may be true Robert. I'm kinda weird.
- Debi Jones
Everyone my age has a token profile without a photo on it or anything written on their wall. Their kids put them on, but they don't engage
- Francine Hardaway
Betcha those queries that lead to snarky answers today will lead to useful results in the future as Apple learns and itierates Siri.
- Michael Markman
Android has a similar feature - voice search has been there for ages, voice command is separate. they need to unify and tune it.
- Kevin Marks
Not if they all refer to StarTrek, Michael
- Francine Hardaway
Google Translate for android is in many ways more impressive than Siri
- Kevin Marks
people who are not on Google+ are completely normal.. ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Siri is playful; not something google is good at
- Kevin Marks
haha Siri + Jersey Shore will be great.
- Stephen
Got my weird badge flying high and proud, btw.
- Debi Jones
My husband had a dictaphone strapped to his belt at all times.
- Francine Hardaway
I bet I need to reboot my router
- Kevin Marks
Siri Alpha: the Dictaphone
- Francine Hardaway
Alan Kay used to say that the intelligent assistant should be programmed to act as a slightly daft, deaf butler, so you forgive it when it can't help.
- Michael Markman
+1 Taschek
- Francine Hardaway
^2
- Stephen
:/
- Stephen
thank you Gillmor Gang +all
- Stephen
thanks!
- Aron Michalski
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks all. Great gang
- Michael Markman
thanks to allllll
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Secret service agents secured the quad for Steve Jobs memorial service http://yfrog.com/h8wcfnlj (via @kamildada)
- clive boulton
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hello
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hello?
- Kevin Marks
Starting up shortly.
- Robert Scoble
hot sunny day here in northern California
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin, you on Skype?
- Robert Scoble
Call in on NewsGang 3.
- Robert Scoble
hi there!
- Maciej Głuszek
kevin can you call in on NewsGang 3 please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OK
- Kevin Marks
Hi Tina!
- Aron Michalski
Hi all #gillmorgang
- Peter Dawson
hello!
- Hilary Talbot
Hellooo
- Kevin Costain
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Happy birthday Steve
- Michael Krigsman
lost connection
- Kevin Marks
I can hear the music in my head
- Christian Burns
Just a minute. Technical problems.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh, technology :)
- Maciej Głuszek
Poor New Yorkers standing in line for iPhone 4S - the rain just started coming down quite hard
- Ankush Narula
be this test card, John: http://www.barney-wol.net/video...
- Kevin Marks
I think ustream is buggy too
- Christian Burns
Phone companies are trouble all the way round
- Michael Krigsman
I've been pondering this new iPhone. perhaps this device is in my future.. :)
- Kevin Costain
My 4s is waiting at home.
- Eric - seven eleven
if it has a bigger aperture, it may be less sharp
- Kevin Marks
Is that Nikon film camera we saw there?
- Michael Krigsman
F100 maybe?
- Eric - seven eleven
4S improvements were mostly for low-light shooting
- Ankush Narula
Turbo C for DOS is the best...:)
- Kevin Costain
"Steve Jobs's death increased sales of iPhone 4S" - that was funny
- Ankush Narula
Oh yea @Kevin.. I used that book in College (if I remember correctly).. great stuff..
- Kevin Costain
Page views online and eyeballs in print -- same motivators, different tools. Blah.
- Michael Krigsman
Michael: yup, it's a Nikon F2 made in the 1970s.
- Robert Scoble
I've had it 22 years, and I knew exactly where it was to take that photo
- Kevin Marks
Robert: obviously there is a story there
- Michael Krigsman
Say, I've been pondering the role of journalists as so-called "experts", but they actually don't do anything other than report on things other people actually do. Is there actually the large disconnect that I think there is?
- Kevin Costain
@Kevin - I have that book somewhere at home too... be hard to find it I think.. :(
- Kevin Costain
There is no current business model for profitable newspaper publishing, and people say blogging the replacement. However, there is also no business model for bloggers, in general. Seems that news has a little problem.
- Michael Krigsman
What if the college students ranked newspapers? http://wapo.st/rrFaXr
- John Taschek
The only ones still buying newspapers turns out to be newspapers… http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...
- David Berry
ActivityStreams Facebook style
- Ankush Narula
lost Kevin. Hope not for good
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not to spread it more...https://plus.google.com/1126787...
- Alex de Soto
@Micheal - indeed, the business model for that stuff may be worth investigation.. but I speak more of those in the technology industry (that make money by making technology work, or making technology) and those that report ABOUT it. The line that those that report and those that do it seems to be less delineated.. something is up there though I'm probably not articulating it well enough. :)
- Kevin Costain
Steve Yegge deserves Pulitzer
- clive boulton
Major manufacturers have ceased production of new motion picture film cameras; cinema as we once knew it is dead -- http://www.salon.com/2011...
- David Berry
BlackBerry crumble(s)
- clive boulton
my mac kernel panicked. rebooted, trying skype again
- Kevin Marks
I see allot of these BOLD statements about technology almost for the sake of being bold.. but where is the substance behind it? Are these people making these bold statements ever in the position to have to back these things up?
- Kevin Costain
It's interesting that Google continues to develop Orkut: http://en.blog.orkut.com/
- Ankush Narula
why would google abandon 70M users of Orkut?
- Kevin Marks
agreed - but why wouldn't they transition them to G+?
- Ankush Narula
G+ has fewer features and a different friend model. would be a big transition. They are ending Buzz.
- Kevin Marks
Orkut is big out in South America right? Google seems to be dumping lots fo stuff lately.
- Kevin Costain
Brazil, India, Estonia...
- Kevin Marks
Most Brazilians I know have abandoned their beloved Orkut and even MSN Chat for Facebook and Facebook Chat
- Stephen Pickering
right, the more westernized ones go FB first. I've heard 'orkut is now the myspace of brazil'
- Kevin Marks
I do wish I had gone into Brazil when I was down in Boliva last April.. it was possible..
- Kevin Costain
and we're off the air?
- Ankush Narula
bringing it back up... trying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Of the air for me (in Toronto, Ontario).... :(
- Kevin Costain
Gonna get Footloose, Cut Footloose. haha
- Kevin Costain
we're working on it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
should be momentary
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, speaking of outages, RIM's was pretty rough. Essentially all of my customers hate Blackberry's now. Consumers are fickle.
- Kevin Costain
Roger McNamee was on CNBC this morning. Do we believe his forecasts?
- Stephen Pickering
is gabe sitting on a bouncy ball?
- Kevin Marks
Perhaps that will pass.. I guess the good thing is people's memories tend to be short.. and when they're locked into two and three year contracts, they won't remember this when it's time to renew.
- Kevin Costain
hang in there folks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Check this out.. Gmail just gave me an obvious SPAM message.. I checked more details and it says "Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.". I'm thinking, that's not too strict if that's all they're checking.. :)
- Kevin Costain
gabe is commissioning stories for techmeme now?
- Kevin Marks
Copycats, easy and low cost to create Apps and get Distribution, more freelancers than Startups.
- clive boulton
Bummer that the stream is down.
- Robert Scoble
Hey how did Calacanis get a live youtube account?
- Stephen Pickering
techmeme posts tweets now
- Kevin Marks
we're still trying to bring the stream back up.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Its off the Air at Ustream now
- Mansoor
appreciate your patience. we're goin a bit nuts here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
:)
- Kevin Costain
Yapeee...its back up!
- Mansoor
MG was good at turning ambient twitter conversation into blogposts. Is Gabe taking that over?
- Kevin Marks
how about that.
- Aron Michalski
Well, like him or not, Fred has integrity in the community. If he lost that, he wouldn't make Techmeme, I don't think
- Stephen Pickering
So what's happened with Techmeme? I have I missed something?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: exactly. Integrity is one of my favorite words.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: we always try to figure out what Techmeme is about. :-)
- Robert Scoble
hahahaha :-)
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: What exactly is the arbiter of integrity?
- Kevin Costain
Dork Wars.
- Aron Michalski
haha.. who are you fighting.. ?
- Kevin Costain
Nas v Jay-Z?
- Eric - seven eleven
I think the arbiter of integrity is the sense they put truth and objectivity above money and personal gain
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: Integrity is "are you what you seem?" So, if you are a criminal, and everyone knows it, you have integrity. Now, if everyone thinks you are a Rabbi, but you actually are a criminal, then you don't have integrity.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: Indeed that is one nice definition of integrity.. but I'm more interested in what decides who does or doesn't operate with integrity?
- Kevin Costain
yeah - like Omar on The Wire - that dude had integrity
- Ankush Narula
someone flew a kite in the WSJ which gabe picked up. Maybe they were trying to get valuations down.
- Kevin Marks
Why is Steve getting more credit than Bill gates? Bill put a PC in the hands of villagers in developing countries. He put them in failing inner city schools. Steve Jobs put computers in the hands of the well-off.
- David Lloyd
I do know what it's like to live with integrity. Indeed, this is essential. But, when we have those out there and we lack personal involvement with these people. What helps me know that this person has integrity.
- Kevin Costain
look back to Apple II, David
- Kevin Marks
David: because Bill put products in my hand that crash and are ugly. He will get lots of love when he dies, too.
- Robert Scoble
There's usually 2 questions you need to ask yourself; 1) is this a pot of S&^t? and 2) Am I going to stir it?
- Aron Michalski
The "Beige" Boxes heheheh
- Stephen Pickering
I consider this more of a Klout thing. Klout being a measure of influence, right?
- Kevin Costain
Klout measures online popularity and topicality. I wouldn't go as far as saying it truly measures influence.
- Robert Scoble
But it gets us at least partway down that road.
- Robert Scoble
Eh. Bill Gates changed computing as much as Steve Jobs did - the love won't be the same for Bill because the Microsoft message has become about malware, "Product Activations", and sales channels
- Ankush Narula
the Mac was the first beige box... the PCs were metal before
- Kevin Marks
There is a reasonable chance Bill Gates will help erradicate Malaria and put clean water in villages in the Sudan. I know who I think changed the world the most.
- David Lloyd
It doesn't have to be pissing contest. They've both done great things
- Stephen Pickering
Sure. Popularity and topicality are not influence. I think something like tying honesty and integrity to an identity would give words of those with more of it, more weight.
- Kevin Costain
I've read Steve Jobs was a dick at times. +1 for him right there.... :)
- Kevin Costain
The greatest geniuses always have the greatest weaknesses. Without the dick part, you wouldn't have the genius part
- Stephen Pickering
I do consider Jobs a genius. If I had met and interacted with him, I'd probably know for sure.
- Kevin Costain
Stream died again.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Oh, there it is. )
- Kevin Costain
Which article?
- Stephen Pickering
Which Journalist?
- Stephen Pickering
Names, names
- Stephen Pickering
This specific world required a new group of experts to translate what was happening. Then this world began becoming the the world around us all.
- Aron Michalski
Well, guys.. I have to run.. cheers.. thanks for the show today..!
- Kevin Costain
1-click purchasing patent - huge innovation
- Ankush Narula
"My Documents" folder patent - amazing innovation
- Ankush Narula
I like that better with the screen ratio
- Stephen Pickering
and when the money gets big enough, the old money types (all money types) take it for real. It becomes mainstream when the big dogs want a bite.
- Aron Michalski
How dare they make a beautiful product
- Christian Burns
Your hammer looks just like my hammer!
- Stephen Pickering
Thats way too pretty, make it uglier please
- Christian Burns
you can turn flash off
- Kevin Marks
I'd rather it have flash
- Stephen Pickering
Innovation is what you leave out - just as much as what you include
- Ankush Narula
it needed a stylus
- Kevin Marks
haha
- Ankush Narula
who was that? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Microsoft Metro?
- Ankush Narula
w8
- Jerome Hughes
never cared about it before
- Kevin Marks
@stephen - this is the one: http://gawker.com/5847344...
- John Taschek
@stephen - and this was a more recent post that referenced it - http://www.forbes.com/sites... - horrible journalism.
- John Taschek
Ah, thanks John
- Stephen Pickering
MeatierGazer
- Kevin Marks
ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how much did I miss?
- Christopher Harris
The whole thing
- Christian Burns
booo
- Christopher Harris
Big trend killing processing latency: Facebook ticker, Google Pregel. Salesforce GraphDB arch for distributed Chatter.
- clive boulton
Thanks everyone.
- Aron Michalski
thanks for everyone tuning in, chatting and having a great time. Have a good weekend
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Dave Martin, Nir Ben Yona, Susan Beebe and 9 other people liked this
Hopefully the discussion today will be on "Fire." ;)
- Alex de Soto
I bet Steve hates the Fire. And he will probably utterly dismiss it.
- David Lloyd
7 min and counting.... Oops 6!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Robert Scoble in the house or MIA?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ahh just getting him in now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm here.
- Robert Scoble
Quick tech glitch...standby
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Standby
- Robert Scoble
Stay on target! :-)
- Robert Scoble
and it's really real…
- Jerome Hughes
taking over the world? Meh. Nice tool for the AMZ silo.
- Karoli
When you combine retail, AWS, and the tablet direction, the world is becoming Jeff's oyster.
- Michael Mahemoff
Which makes the kindle a Segway?
- Michael Mahemoff
who's letting off fireworks in the park?
- Kevin Marks
bike > car
- Jerome Hughes
Chrome browser to Android (finally) http://bit.ly/mQbBsA
- clive boulton
i just have iphone - too small to read on so i use kindle on the mac/whatever
- mal
reminds a bit of eclipse plug in differences
- Jerome Hughes
What about the Amazon buying Palm OS from HP rumor. Any teeth to the rumor?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Does Microsoft get royalties on the Fire too?
- Alex de Soto
it's all about how far you fold it from your eyes
- Kevin Marks
MS will probably ask for licensing. I can't see why not.
- Michael Mahemoff
When is Apple TV going to release an app store? That will change everything.
- Fraser Cain
Walmart's on a roll with their new lab. They are probably very interested in WebOS.
- Michael Mahemoff
slowly decreasing percentage of quickly increasing market... ok
- Jerome Hughes
actually there's very little beatles on spotify
- Ankush Narula
We're going to have to turn into flies so we can watch so many screens at one time.
- Alex de Soto
amazon won't buy palm
- Kevin Marks
you got a blind, for one
- Jerome Hughes
Spotify only has Beatles covers afaict. Artists "#1 Beatles Now" and "The Ultimate Beatles Cover Band" aren't the Beatles.
- Michael Mahemoff
they only have Mozart covers too
- Kevin Marks
Kindle has no apps because Amazon was holding off on their platform, waiting for Android. Change again to WebOS and they set the clock back another 18 months.
- Michael Mahemoff
they're hiring: http://aws.amazon.com/amazons...
- Kevin Marks
More likely Oracle buys Palm for mobile strategy like SAP (funded by Android royalties)
- clive boulton
Walmart otoh has a blank slate and apparently a mandate for acquisitions.
- Michael Mahemoff
The Amazon Android fork already has set them back in time. Will only get worse unless Amazon creates a full OS team to keep their fork relevent.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
a blank slate? is that one with no apps?
- Kevin Marks
Not even a web browser.
- Michael Mahemoff
A single SPDY thread, that's why it's called silk (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...)
- Michael Mahemoff
Thanks, Michael!
- Robert Scoble
Moe: no, he's trying to keep up with Zuckerberg.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure but the Fire seems to have a better form factor for video (widescreen) than the current iPad.
- Alex de Soto
they are a shopping company. they want you to shop
- Kevin Marks
Fire is 16:9, like most Android tablets, and Mac Laptops
- Kevin Marks
and iMacs, come to think of it
- Kevin Marks
Alex: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
And you can check out Kindle books from some public libraries.
- Alex de Soto
Moe: the killer guy at Microsoft is the guy who runs the law department.
- Robert Scoble
if only microsoft had had someone 8 years ago touting the benefits of tablets....
- mal
Moe: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
Hey guys and gals
- Christian Burns
Hi Christian!
- Robert Scoble
Who would be stupid enough to invest in bandwidth when the US Gov can make you resell it to competitors at no profit? That's why
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, my google plus following has gone nuts. :) Thanks for sharing
- Christian Burns
examine some past infrastructure you know well in the present... http://www.historicaerials.com/
- Jerome Hughes
bollocks, Stephen. structural separation works
- Kevin Marks
better late than never.
- Aron Michalski
Bollocks, Kevin, there's no free market in communications. That's why we don' t have fiber connections at competitive prices
- Stephen Pickering
infrastructure evolves based on demand which also evolves
- Jerome Hughes
we have the worst of both worlds - local monopolies with no structural separation
- Kevin Marks
how about duct neutrality?
- Kevin Marks
I have dark fiber going by my house, if only I could tap it.
- Christian Burns
Where does the US rank in net performance? http://www.netindex.com/ - not in top 10. But 4th in the G8 http://www.netindex.com/downloa...
- John Taschek
they look suspiciously like record execs from 10 years ago
- Jerome Hughes
an invitation to compete
- Jerome Hughes
Grey Davies, Action star
- Kevin Marks
except for that whole Honeycomb source code thing
- Ankush Narula
That's called the free market
- Stephen Pickering
The intersection of politics and tech!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The fork is the big issue which should be the real concern for buying the Fire.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
my mac.com accounts have stopped worked
- Kevin Marks
All of this is a mute point. As soon as it is OPENED or Cracked it is a game changer. Barnes and Noble NOOK
- amarquart
From the Amazon website: "Your Favorite Apps and Games... Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, The Weather Channel and more, plus a great paid app for free every day. All apps are Amazon-tested on Kindle Fire for the best experience possible."
- Alex de Soto
woohoo!! Amazon Android free apps. I got some of those in my Dell Streak 7
- Da
so why is Google adding 3rd campus in Seattle (840 person Bothell bldg)
- clive boulton
Hey another Dell Streak 7 owner :) #iwork4dell
- Susan Beebe
google is hiring all over the place - huge building in London too
- Kevin Marks
interesting... Google Social expansion?
- Susan Beebe
apple broke my mac.com accounts last night too
- Kevin Marks
friend at meetup last night was asked what his next Android would be... his response... iPhone 5
- Jerome Hughes
let me know we're eagerly anticipating the Gingerbread upgrade on the Steak 7, Susan
- Da
mmm, Steak
- Kevin Marks
hmm. thought spring cleaning could reduce Google's need for additional Engineers
- clive boulton
The Huawei Honor Android Gingerbread Phone claims three days on a single charge...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's yummy too
- Da
This show always continues to amaze me. Packed with info and educated opinion. You guys rock! Sorry don't mean to applaud our own show but...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wait a minute. Windows 8 is focused on tablet use....
- amarquart
I don't even remember to charge the blackberry
- Kevin Marks
amarquart: exactly. It's far less interesting.
- Robert Scoble
BECAUSE of the Amazon.
- Robert Scoble
I should give it back
- Kevin Marks
One thing Rim does is product placement. Seems like every new movie and tv show the actors are using a Blackberry. Won't HTML5 help Rim hang on?
- Stephen Pickering
those Android IDEOS phones that Huawei's been selling like hotcakes in Kenya is probably optimized for long battery life
- Da
and minis (or at least the OS) ~ a good friend in that space says the best thing ever to happen to RIM is iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
Blackberry haz cheaper data plans (x3 texting kids mks difference)
- clive boulton
I had to use a blackberry in London. Yuck. I hated it!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android is diversifying into all the phone niches - Huawei are replacing the feature phone niche that Nokia thought they owned
- Kevin Marks
A black hole that the (average) consumer of Facebook doesn't seem to want...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Most of the tablets I saw when I was in the Philippines in May were Samsung Galaxy 7's
- Da
popular isn't the same as ubiquitous
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft has it's relationship with Facebook? No?
- Stephen Pickering
True Kevin...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Balmer is going to try to buy their way in. And that is why it will fail. stigma
- amarquart
Facebook's Project Spartan would be big on feature phones
- Da
facebook zero was aimed at that maket
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer for nobel prize in black holes!
- clive boulton
hmm, I dunno though, in the most of the world, Microsoft's still pretty unanimous with computers. It might be a no-name box but it runs on Windows
- Da
Microsoft will distribute through Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
MS has Bing! and XBox. A relationship w/Facebook, Skype. Hate to say it, but they will have a conduit into the black holes.
- Alex de Soto
what proportion of IE browsers have google toolbar installed?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin's hair and the trees behind him are moving in tandem; synced?
- Aron Michalski
It's IE 8 here with the Google toolbar
- Da
now
- Jerome Hughes
doing my bit to stress the video codecs...
- Kevin Marks
caching is learning
- Kevin Marks
I was wondering if it was a Pixar algorithm...
- Aron Michalski
The new Page rank? The whoisme rank.
- Arnie Klaus
don't concentrate on who has already made the purchase but whom influenced the decision
- amarquart
next time I'll try and sit in front of a lake with sunlight glinting off it. Codecs hate that.
- Kevin Marks
Kred==PeopleBrowsr's product
- Michael Mahemoff
wondering why Micrososft put money in Facebook a while back
- Da
it's good when your clueless score plummets
- Jerome Hughes
MSFT seems to be cooking up a new GraphDB (Redmond Blackhole)
- clive boulton
sounds like Max Headroom
- Kevin Marks
companies in the business of herding cats
- Jerome Hughes
I'm glad I have no Klout. I'd rather learn a language to communicate with someone else in the world than know the t shirt preference of a 20 something in a mall...
- Aron Michalski
his Klout score is zero but he's in everyone's circle, he's the most interesting man in the world
- Da
washington general motors
- Jerome Hughes
follower spam! not a fan of sharing G+ circle
- clive boulton
perhaps
- Jerome Hughes
apple's ping should approach google to be their spotify/fb
- mal
that would be a nice improvement on Ping
- Da
Primordial Ooze (social gone dark)
- clive boulton
I'm oozing that comment (like plus 1...)
- Aron Michalski
ping will be subsumed in twitter
- Kevin Marks
but is Apple really into social?
- Da
what does he do about those who abstain?
- Jerome Hughes
and maybe i wont have to watch ads for domestic beer
- mal
Imagine if they could track things that don't involve sitting around in front of a screen...
- Aron Michalski
mal - by any chance do you need a truck?
- Jerome Hughes
Rather to think about Facebook aggregating yet more content. Of course, it's the Zuckerberg dream come true.
- Michael Krigsman
Here's an interesting Google+ related site that aggregates my content -- https://www.foldedsoft.at/+...
- Susan Beebe
Tera Nova is not bad lol
- Susan Beebe
Terra Novacaine
- Stephen Pickering
Hah.
- Robert Scoble
Pike Kilt Lifter sure beats Budweiser
- clive boulton
lol
- Susan Beebe
RIP Tevatron … bit.ly/o2zzwC
- Jerome Hughes
I helped a friend with a problem (how would that effect my score if I didn't send them a promoted link?)
- Aron Michalski
Everyone wants to collect your most personal details with intimate fidelity, to sell more and more shit you don't really need << bad mood about this today.
- Michael Krigsman
check out San Miguel beer
- Da
PLEASE Stream it this time ...
- Susan Beebe
haha
- Susan Beebe
iWontbethere...
- Aron Michalski
your opinions are more important than your presences
- Jerome Hughes
the coffee at Apple HQ is good
- Kevin Marks
YEP - the koolaid is even better!
- Susan Beebe
great shot of Steve chuckling, Tina!
- Jerome Hughes
We need centralization to build markets and consolidate customers, but at some point it's too much. Question becomes, what is that breakover point where it becomes bad.
- Michael Krigsman
when we're all in the Matrix
- Da
Will you guys talk about the greatness of HP and Oracle, or did I miss that part yet :-)
- Michael Krigsman
competition breeds success
- Jerome Hughes
Michael: hahahahahahahhah.
- Robert Scoble
YAY, glad to see the show continue :)
- Susan Beebe
Great show! Kept me in the office until 5:30 pm (EDT). Have a great weekend.
- Alex de Soto
HP and Oracle were not waterboarded
- clive boulton
real men watch this in lynx
- mal
Applause for Tina :)
- Susan Beebe
bought around the same time- my bought-new HP desktop conked out before my bought-used Dell desktop, yikes!
- Da
++ Susan
- Jerome Hughes
Ream men love HP :-)
- Michael Krigsman
thanks everybody.
- Aron Michalski
lol meant to say real men
- Michael Krigsman
Great show!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Thanks and Happy Rosh Hashana :)
- Nir Ben Yona
… and Aron.
- Jerome Hughes
L'Shana Tovah
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Re: iPad vs. Android Tablets: A Kids Perspective - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"Great post. I got a Xoom today so appreciate the advice about 3.2. It did a quick update, so that was was good. Now, I need to find an app to replace Goodreader from the I pad. Any ideas? By the way, on my desktop this comments bos did not show IP, in both IE and FF. Works on the xoom though."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: iPad vs. Android Tablets: A Kids Perspective - http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011...
"Great post. I got a Xoom today so appreciate the advice about 3.2. It did a quick update, so that was was good. Now, I need to find an app to replace Goodreader from the iPad. Any ideas? By the way, on my desktop this comments box did not show up, in both IE and FF. Works on the xoom though."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: iPad vs. Android Tablets: A Kids Perspective - http://gottabemobile.staging.w...
"Great post. I got a Xoom today so appreciate the advice about 3.2. It did a quick update, so that was was good. Now, I need to find an app to replace Goodreader from the iPad. Any ideas? By the way, on my desktop this comments box did not show up, in both IE and FF. Works on the xoom though."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: For she’s a jolly good Fellow… - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"Congratulations, it's well deserved!"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: For she’s a jolly good Fellow… - http://www.pm4girls.elizabeth-harrin.com/2011...
"Congratulations, it's well deserved!"
- Michael Krigsman
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Ralph Henson, Dave Martin, Robert Scoble and 4 other people liked this
5:02 are we on?
- Ralph Henson
almost hearing the GG rif
- clive boulton
THere will be a half hour of fiddling with the technology first:-)
- Francine Hardaway
LOL! As usual!
- Ralph Henson
I think 6 PM is a goal, not a time. But @kevinmarks is ready
- Francine Hardaway
I'm on the call, we're still connecting folks.
- Robert Scoble
RealTime network should be renamed SomeTime network. :-)
- Ralph Henson
Tina is trying to expel the cat from the studio
- Francine Hardaway
Ralph: it's the Internet. When it happens it happens. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Hi Robert
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Francine, what part of the world are you in today?
- Robert Scoble
More cats please, not less. Will Improve the show. Sorry Francine, know you like the canines better but cats are the key to monitization of the internet.
- Aron Michalski
live FTW
- Truong Nguyen
hi Robert, DM you earlier
- Truong Nguyen
Cats are also the key to full functioning social networks!
- Ralph Henson
Robert, I have come home to AZ to do launcry:-)
- Francine Hardaway
That
- Francine Hardaway
Do any of you Know if there is Wi fi on thai airways?- David
- recoblogger
Gray basically lives in the studio now because he can't get along with the puppies. They're too hyper for him
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Dogs have owners, cats have staff
- Dave Martin
We're waiting for Seth to reboot his computer or something like that.
- Robert Scoble
Seth having technical problems....sorry for the delay people. I could dance and sing if you like? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Puppies???? Plural????
- Francine Hardaway
OK, we're about to start.
- Robert Scoble
last night on TummelVision, we had Heather calling in from her car crossing the Canada to US border, and me in a taxi crossing the Denver plains
- Kevin Marks
its Crackerjack
- clive boulton
Kavin, that's some kind of miracle
- Francine Hardaway
I see you
- Michael Krigsman
And you have a Big Bang Blu Ray ad on your face, Scoble
- Francine Hardaway
Wait until you see my cool Oakley 3D glasses.
- Robert Scoble
lol clive.
- Kevin Marks
TC Disrupt did sound good.
- Francine Hardaway
TC Disrupt as daytime TV
- Kevin Marks
strange saw nearly no disrupt tweets
- clive boulton
I was the most retweeted person using the #tcdisrupt hashtag and I was watching it on the freeway. Don't tell the cops.
- Robert Scoble
Chat is not overlooked here, or on TWIT
- Francine Hardaway
Without Ballmer there would be no crazy, screaming videos of him on stage.
- Michael Krigsman
feels really awkward using office, only using word for spell / grammar checker
- clive boulton
I actually think NetMeeting worked well for the time
- Francine Hardaway
I use the Word 2010 grammar checking on every single blog post I write. It's fantastic.
- Michael Krigsman
Multi tasking on iPad doesn't work well even without AirPlay
- Francine Hardaway
I love the fact that those of us who won't bite on the Microsoft upgrades receive .docx files and get to use Google Docs to see them. Then, you can save them as .doc and download them. Cloud workaround.
- Aron Michalski
iPad multi-tasking is really task switching, like on the very very old versions of windows
- Michael Krigsman
Just getting used to iPad limits; after blasting around even on the N1 with multiple things going, it's a more linear usage experience.
- Aron Michalski
Michael: yes, true. But does it matter? Not for most things.
- Robert Scoble
but why would Zuck do that? It's a Facebook world now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They should bring Muglia back
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: I hear Muglia wasn't very good, from other people inside Microsoft. But, even if he were, I don't think he is what Microsoft needs.
- Robert Scoble
"Welcome to Microsoft Apprentice..."
- Aron Michalski
microsoft has made more money from Android than from Windows phone: http://www.asymco.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
good one Aron
- Charlie Isaacs
Steven Sinofsky to preview Windows 8 tablet @ D9 http://bit.ly/mGAGcm
- clive boulton
I met Bob Muglia several years ago and he seemed to be a bright guy, and really personable, but things change. You have to keep up.
- Charlie Isaacs
Best-Performing U.S.-Listed International Stocks (May 28, 2011) - http://stockmarkettowatch.blogspot.com/2011...
- rabiemahamad
Seattle call is for Bill Gates to return
- clive boulton
Having a clueless board is quite common.
- Francine Hardaway
MS also holds valuable patents/ip
- Dave Martin
+1 "good one Aron - Charlie Isaacs"
- clive boulton
Groundswells
- Dave Martin
Apple's consumerized tech, but have they consumerized IT...
- clive boulton
Dave: big one!
- Robert Scoble
cliveb: yup. And there are a whole raft of companies consumerizing IT. Yammer and all.
- Robert Scoble
Where's his OC3 when he needs it
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: I don't know, I got Comcast to upgrade my line this morning.
- Robert Scoble
IRC for music
- Kevin Marks
Hows about some turntable.fm invites for those here, please
- Dave Martin
you just have to friend seth on facebook
- Kevin Marks
got off facebook in oct 08 when beacon happened
- Dave Martin
don't tell @benioff or @stevegillmor, Alcatel-Lucent selected Yammer #beforemytime
- Charlie Isaacs
They will grow under the radar if not actually sanctioned.
- Francine Hardaway
Robert: cute pic of your son :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
Radian6 has an awesome REST API
- Charlie Isaacs
chatter's drawback enterprise only (needs pubsub tokens)
- clive boulton
3D Scoble; I need a downgrade.
- Aron Michalski
Heheh
- Robert Scoble
Stevie Wondervision
- Charlie Isaacs
Twitter is floundering
- Francine Hardaway
I do the Google Alerts thing too, doesn't catch everything
- Charlie Isaacs
First step toward creating a conversation
- Francine Hardaway
So will @mention replace Active directory?
- clive boulton
when do we get to talk about Zuck killing and eating his own food :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: do we have to?
- Robert Scoble
feeble attempt at humor
- Charlie Isaacs
See??? I knew it!
- Francine Hardaway
Yep. That's why I wrote my "Twitter for Seniors" post:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Twitter is a tool that allows me to use YOU GUYS to 'curate' all of the stuff that's going on in the tech world!
- Ralph Henson
Kevins nailed it, Active Client over Active Directory.
- clive boulton
IMO Twitter needs to buy more companies so they can solidify their revenue base to provide support for their ridiculous market valuation
- Charlie Isaacs
kids dont like twitter. that means something
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bravo Tina.
- Aron Michalski
Bravo Tina
- Francine Hardaway
agree with Tina and Aron, my teenagers poked fun at me today when they saw my tweetdeck scrolling on one of my screens
- Charlie Isaacs
Very good for seeing news, if that's what you want
- Francine Hardaway
Gillmor & Scoble are celebrities? :-)
- Ralph Henson
Is Twitter the Wall Street Journal, not CNN? For news freaks but not teenagers.
- Robert Scoble
It's for people who want to KNOW things
- Francine Hardaway
I watched #tcdisrupt and Eurovision with it, that was fun. It's making me watch live TV again
- Kevin Marks
Am surprised how Filpboard changes the reading experience. the list-y experience of IM and clients is comfortable; I feel like I'm missing something in some way.
- Aron Michalski
It's like someone who is used to command line than a snazzy UI.
- Aron Michalski
But we're nerds, right?
- Aron Michalski
I will take that bet, too.
- Francine Hardaway
Flipboard has too many competitors
- Francine Hardaway
Is that $100 US or 100 Eaves on EmpireAvenue?
- Charlie Isaacs
oops
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine: and they all suck in some way. And they aren't signing up the big brands.
- Robert Scoble
Paper.li has a great vibe, web based for now, an app will be very competitive.
- Aron Michalski
Like no Friendfeed without Twitter...
- Aron Michalski
have you seen blogger's flipboard like views of their blogs?
- Kevin Marks
Not yet.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin: yeah, but they aren't even close to the same.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: normal people want to read Oprah or Rolling Stone. They aren't on Blogger.
- Robert Scoble
How about the Gaga/Amazon crash-a-thon?
- Aron Michalski
That looks like shit compared to Flipboard.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, very cool.
- Aron Michalski
talked to Eli Pariser about his Filter Bubble book yesterday too
- Kevin Marks
normal people like paper.li I saw that at BlogWorld
- Francine Hardaway
http://scobleizer.com/2011... Very efficient microservers. This company is taking off.
- Robert Scoble
nice eyeball
- Charlie Isaacs
BlogWorld is NOT normal people.
- Robert Scoble
Reading Pariser's book and moderated a panel on curation with Edouard Lambelet, Steve Rosenbaum, Eric Hippeau, Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
BWENY was. All newbies
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: you really should look at Twylah.
- Robert Scoble
It's a far more interesting business than Paper.li is.
- Robert Scoble
Be honest, do you really read anyone's Paper.li? I don't.
- Robert Scoble
Francine: Twylah: http://scobleizer.com/2011...
- Robert Scoble
Paper.li as a configurable app would be very cool. Using Twitter lists shaped by you makes you a publisher in a new way.
- Aron Michalski
Paper.li is like Qwiki. Looks very cool on first look. Then when you start using them you realize they are quite lame.
- Robert Scoble
Was planning to look at it, Robert. And dude, I don't like Paper.li
- Francine Hardaway
Then someone just imports your feed into their paper.li app or Faceboard app and...
- Aron Michalski
If he keeps talking about Salesforce I am going to ask him about Metallica
- Charlie Isaacs
I'm going to talk about Yammer more if he does. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Paper.li is flipboard as a newspaper template rather than a magizine template. same bird otherwise.
- Aron Michalski
It was better when you guys didn't have real jobs:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Aron: wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Right, Aron
- Francine Hardaway
good one Robert (and Francine)
- Charlie Isaacs
I am heading for the nearest bar
- Francine Hardaway
Aron: Flipboard has professional content, curated. Paper.li does not.
- Robert Scoble
They could talk about anything they wanted then...sigh.
- Aron Michalski
It doesn't want to...
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: I have a bottle of wine downstairs.
- Robert Scoble
I'd better lookup Flipboard.
- clive boulton
is there a designated driver app?
- Aron Michalski
Happy Holidays everyone :-) over and out
- Charlie Isaacs
Bummer. I'm in the wrong town.
- Francine Hardaway
see you in a few weeks.
- Aron Michalski
where are you going Aron?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin - Friday it's 5 o'clock, no it's not Dr Who, it's..http://youtu.be/JXdxke5uPEM
- clive boulton
Re: Remember that iPad Wi-Fi Bug? It's Back...And Affecting iPhones, Too - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
"This happens to me as well. The problem has been there since the original firmware that shipped on the iPad2 and continues to this day. Pain in the ass."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Remember that iPad Wi-Fi Bug? It's Back...And Affecting iPhones, Too - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"This happens to me as well. The problem has been there since the original firmware that shipped on the iPad2 and continues to this day. Pain in the ass."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Scripting News: Journalist or not? Wrong question - http://scripting.com/stories...
"Based on your post there are two options: either be an outsider and fully honest or an insider and compromised. But, what about those pesky, but real, shades of gray?"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Scripting News: Journalist or not? Wrong question - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"Based on your post there are two options: either be an outsider and fully honest or an insider and compromised. What about those pesky, but real, shades of gray issues?"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Getting inside Salesforce’s social acquisition strategy; interview of CEO of $340 million Radian6 - http://scobleizer.com/2011...
"Great quote from Marcel: "Get the voice of the customer to every part of the business." Well done interview."
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Getting inside Salesforce’s social acquisition strategy; interview of CEO of $340 million Radian6 - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"Great quote from Marcel: "Get the voice of the customer to every part of the business." Well done interview."
- Michael Krigsman
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Can Steve & Tina give us Royal Wedding Gilmor Gang Kiss
- Moe Glitz
when are we starting?
- dlature
Windows Phone is tracking all three users! heheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
Almost all Smartphone Apps wants to track your current location
- Moe Glitz
'These aren't the Droids you are looking for'. Steve Jobs
- Moe Glitz
Has John got a cold? Are is he not paying his heating bills?
- Moe Glitz
is this live now? I got nothing
- dlature
Yes, I"m watching
- Stephen Pickering
me too
- Moe Glitz
Maybe refresh your page?
- Stephen Pickering
Thank you, Kevin. That's a much more accurate description.
- Darren
had to switch from Chrome to IE...refresing Chrome several times did nothing
- dlature
Hmmm, that's weird. I'm using Chrome, although I have had issues with Chrome on other sites and had to use Safari
- Stephen Pickering
FriendFeed feels neglected
- Paul E. Ester
It's true that you solve the failures you see
- Michael Krigsman
Sony Playstation network went down from what I understood
- Stephen Pickering
It is absolutely a big deal. The outage was multi-day for some customers.
- Darren
JP: I disagree that it was spun up as a large story. It affected so many people, which means it IS a big story.
- Michael Krigsman
I heard playstation network still down?
- Stephen Pickering
IT failures are almost always related to financial decisions or human judgment
- Michael Krigsman
anybody else getting this annoying "Conservative Talk Now" ad that won't "X" out?
- dlature
Was it worth Apple spending $5m to purchase icloud.com, if the Cloud seems to be unreliable
- Moe Glitz
think it just crashed my Chrome's flash again
- dlature
Nope
- Stephen Pickering
Is John in a freezer?
- Michael Krigsman
Is JP inside a coalmine?
- Moe Glitz
back again...had to sit thru that initial 30 sec ad again
- dlature
JP's in england, it's night there
- Kevin Marks
AMZ has tier support.
- Darren
Not tiered infrastructure.
- Darren
Smugmug CEO wrote a great piece on how he kept his service up
- Stephen Pickering
The cloud brings leverage, which is great when it works properly. However, when there is a problem it causes big problems fast.
- Michael Krigsman
smugmug, twilio, simplegeo all geeked out interestingly
- Kevin Marks
Netflix uses the same infrastructure as every other customer. They have a more redundant, resilient infrastructure implementation. Something any other customer could do, if they took the time and could afford it.
- Darren
Is cloud a technology or a way of life?
- Michael Krigsman
Last week I was in the Twilight Zone. Now I'm in a Freezer
- John Taschek
I'm in the garden of pollen
- Kevin Marks
I *think it's a virtualized technology of distributing data across many servers and data centers
- Stephen Pickering
Can't wait for next week then?
- Moe Glitz
does that make Steve the unfunny guy from salesforce
- Kevin Marks
As IT extends out into the consumer world, there is definitely the expectation that cloud will work all the time. Consumers expect cloud to function as reliably as the phone or electricity.
- Michael Krigsman
Bang goes Rackspaces sponsorship of Gillmor Gang
- Moe Glitz
Speaking of Salesforce, when will they be acquiring Seesmic?
- Darren
Congratulations Kevin and Salesforce
- Paul E. Ester
Congrats!
- Michael Krigsman
thanks guys
- Kevin Marks
Very good decision to hire Kevin. Congrats.
- Darren
I wasn't expecting to say this until monday.. thanks steve ;)
- Kevin Marks
The Salesforce Mafia!
- Moe Glitz
Bromance
- Stephen Pickering
thank you for coming out!
- Michael Krigsman
That sounds like a more successful version of Cliqset. ;)
- Darren
May The Salesforce Be With You, Kevin!
- Moe Glitz
Paypal Mafia! Goog Mafia! Zinga Mafia!
- clive boulton
Congrats @kevinmarks ! Great to have you.
- John Taschek
It's not in Apple's DNA to give away
- Stephen Pickering
It would be weird for Apple to do cloud and app hosting for others
- Michael Krigsman
How many people actually use FaceTime? Skype is one thing, but FaceTime?
- Michael Krigsman
Android has now got its own version of Facetime!
- Moe Glitz
Haz SFDC gathered brain power to overcome MSFT's "project green" cloud app customization IP suit...
- clive boulton
sadly, Apple's promised facetime open standards document never happened
- Kevin Marks
facetime is mostly used within households who have multiple iphones...
- Kevin Marks
so facetime is an eeensy little niche product?
- Michael Krigsman
Android was a development of the Sidekick vision
- Kevin Marks
like Steve' / Tina's new studio
- clive boulton
guess I missed the first few minutes from the new studio
- dlature
thanks. studio not finished but working
- Tina Chase Gillmor
But without Apple's Webkit, Android's UI would look static?
- Moe Glitz
Webkit was apple's key openness
- Kevin Marks
Bet they regret that move today, Kevin
- Moe Glitz
no, I don't think so. Without it they'd not have been able to get dev support for their browser
- Kevin Marks
Winsock.
- Darren
Exactly, the browser is what initially sold the thing
- Stephen Pickering
Didn't Google benefit from Apple's WebKit?
- Alex de Soto
But if they patented Webkit, they would have controlled the Smartphone Marketplace
- Moe Glitz
But then Google wouldn't have gotten on board and iPhone needs their services
- Stephen Pickering
no they wouldn't moe, they'd have prevented it from happening
- Kevin Marks
The iPod with Wifi was key I think.
- Alex de Soto
wifi in iPhone was important; Nokia wanted to put wifi in their phones for years, but carriers would not agree to it
- Kevin Marks
Apple plays a delicate balance between what consumers want and what the content establishment wants. To that extent they've done a brilliant job so far.
- Stephen Pickering
Right Stephen. Just look at Google TV.
- Alex de Soto
The biggest worry is that the Carriers will try to wrestle back control of the Smartphone Market from the Software Companies
- Moe Glitz
Alex, exactly
- Stephen Pickering
Moe: Easier to wrest control back with Android no?
- Alex de Soto
the carriers now need wifi support, because they don't have the capacity
- Kevin Marks
Android video calling rumors @ IO
- clive boulton
They can't Moe, they love these 100 dollar a month contracts too much
- Stephen Pickering
they're trying to come up with a paid wifi roaming spec
- Kevin Marks
plz work on paid wifi roaming
- clive boulton
Two tier Wifi coming very soon?
- Moe Glitz
Comcast Xfinity offers Wifi in select areas for their customers too.
- Alex de Soto
Android integration w/ Google Voice is great. I apply my free unlimited "friend" minutes on TMobile to GV. Beautiful stuff.
- Michael Krigsman
video calling in gtalk was announced this week clive
- Kevin Marks
disagree, clive, work on free roaming ie turning off the stupid middleboxes
- Kevin Marks
My one complaint about my iPhone is that it refuses to let go of my wifi network when I go on walks and am clearly out of range. I have to go into settings to get on to 3G and listen to Pandora
- Stephen Pickering
Huh?
- Michael Krigsman
Software Companies are killing Carriers MMS and SMS Cashcows
- Moe Glitz
looking for alternative to cell data plan (I only have a starbucks plan - need moar wifi)
- clive boulton
No, Steve, we know you aren't in an ivory tower.
- Michael Krigsman
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzk... - how communications become flat rate
- Kevin Marks
There are two distinct threads happening now: early technology adoption in general, vs communications pricing.
- Michael Krigsman
in the 70s we used to pay a dollar a minute for long distance
- Stephen Pickering
Until the carrier imposes an unexpected cap -- for example, Comcast bandwidth limits or unplanned international cell phone roaming that leads to a $1000 bill when you go on vacation.
- Michael Krigsman
Just got home from work. First thing heard: JP saying "Flat rate wins," and not having context thought it was some variant of "Flattery will get you everywhere."
- Amyloo
kevin, thx for history comms "flatrat"
- clive boulton
Watching YouTube vids on 3G, completely wipes out your flat rate Data Plan.
- Moe Glitz
If 4G threatens Comcast, Comcast will lift the cap. Competition and innovation drives flat rate
- Stephen Pickering
Damn he's worse than Leo! hahaha
- Stephen Pickering
danny - how many data plans? (lost count...)
- clive boulton
IMO, the Atrix model is the future of computing. One brain, multiple input form factors.
- Darren
thats what Wifi delivers
- Kevin Marks
What??? Are you a communist???
- Michael Krigsman
If I were into politics and conspiracy theories (which I'm not), I would say you are on the dangerous path to state control over everything. Thin end of the wedge. /sarcasm off
- Michael Krigsman
OMG, Verizon being nice to consumers?? This is the dreams show.
- Michael Krigsman
we need more open spectrum like wifi - white spaces
- Kevin Marks
Does AT&T offer tethering yet for my iPhone?
- Stephen Pickering
Tethering on Android is wonderful, but I used to do it just as easily on jailbroken iPhone
- Michael Krigsman
If I jailbreak am I in danger of losing my grandfathered unlimited data plan from AT&T?
- Stephen Pickering
I use PDAnet on Android for tethering
- Kevin Marks
my Starbucks "data plan" $1200yr / $3 Americano = 400 coffee visits (cheap & cheerful & caffeinated)
- clive boulton
Stephen - you are in danger only because ATT is now detecting unsanctioned tehtering and forcing you to change plans. Did not used to be the case.
- Michael Krigsman
Hear, hear!
- Darren
Ahhh, ok, thanks Michael
- Stephen Pickering
Ok my late night royal wedding watching is starting to hit me.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
where the heck is my tiarra?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
640k, er 5GB ought to be enough for anyone
- Kevin Marks
Yes, exactly Kevin.
- Darren
Tina, you can borrow my everyday tiara.
- Amyloo
What are the implications of this for Salesforce?
- Michael Krigsman
watching royal wedding with twitter was fun
- Kevin Marks
then is there a way to download our gmail to our local machine?
- Stephen Pickering
Tina, can you give Steve a Gillmor Gang Royal Wedding Kiss!
- Moe Glitz
@Stephen, POP3.
- Darren
You can use Thunderbird to download a full copy to your local machine for backup.
- Michael Krigsman
IMAP doesn't download by default.
- Darren
Ah, ok, thank you
- Stephen Pickering
Since you need backup cloud and need to back up local, doesn't that mean cloud and local are the same?
- Michael Krigsman
IMAP syncs headers by default, not content.
- Darren
Gee, I thought Tech was suppose to make our lives easier?
- Moe Glitz
Moe....hmmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe: that belief is an illusion
- Michael Krigsman
I was at Buckingham Palace today
- Moe Glitz
Photosynth was amazing to use there!
- Moe Glitz
not been there for a long time...
- Kevin Marks
ATT v Verizon economics suk, Starbucks "data plan" (rest my case)
- clive boulton
My sister lives 10 mins away from there
- Moe Glitz
Moe, link to your Photosynths?
- Stephen Pickering
Moeglitz
- Moe Glitz
Still learning how to use it more effectively!
- Moe Glitz
what's the url to photosynth?
- Stephen Pickering
photosynth.com?
- Stephen Pickering
Re: Godspeed on That Investing Thing, Yertle–But I Still Have Some Questions for Your Boss, Arianna - http://kara.allthingsd.com/2011042...
"Brilliant! But then, what's a lil ethical lapse among friends?"
- Michael Krigsman
Re: Godspeed on That Investing Thing, Yertle–But I Still Have Some Questions for Your Boss, Arianna - http://www.disqus.com/people...
"Brilliant!"
- Michael Krigsman
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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can you see me on skype? I got a phonecall
- Kevin Marks
I'm waiting for the SkypeCall. Hopefully my wifi holds up.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone hear from Gillmor yet? Tina oh Tina, where art thou?
- Robert Scoble
Hi everybody!
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Francine!
- Robert Scoble
Hi Francine.
- Aron Michalski
Where are you where the wifi won't hold up?
- Francine Hardaway
I'm sitting in the middle of USVP on Sand Hill Road.
- Robert Scoble
It looks like it's doing OK now. Twitter and FriendFeed are streaming in fine.
- Robert Scoble
Robert I'm going to an Apple store in Austin to get an iPad2, but not the downtown one
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Aronski, I guess you are not touring lately
- Francine Hardaway
It's the quiet season; I get back on the bird in April.
- Aron Michalski
Just got the call, so we' should be on now...
- Robert Scoble
Sweet! Doc is here...
- Francine Hardaway
it's spelled John Borthwick, but it's pronounced Throat WObbler Mangrove
- Kevin Marks
there's a lot of SKUs this time. 9 I count. 16, 32, 64 for Wifi. Same for 3G but x2 (GSM and CDMA). Plus they are still selling the old units..
- Jamie
Apps are definitely a deal breaker for me, personally. That said, we can't ignore these facts: 10 Reasons Why The Motorola Xoom Beats The iPad 2 http://bit.ly/gLfgpv
- Nir Ben Yona
Can you take a photo with the iPad 2??
- Ward Mundy
The Air is light enough to use as a portable cam
- Kevin Marks
said the connector was good for 1080p
- Jerome Hughes
bingo Doc.
- Aron Michalski
Yes, you can take a photo. But the camera is not all that good.
- Robert Scoble
I'm conflicted, but I want to get one anyway.
- Francine Hardaway
Even Hillary Clinton agrees
- Jim Posner
You can read about the iPad 2 camera in this post: http://bit.ly/dYpwvn
- Nir Ben Yona
narrowcasting=real name required.
- Aron Michalski
I wonder if Doc has any comments re Monitor Consulting based at Harvard that took Libyan money to burnish the image of Gaddafi. Clay Shirky has been caught up in this as well.
- Jim Posner
What's Windows? Old story, hardly news.
- Michael Krigsman
All my documents are in the cloud. This is irrelevant
- Francine Hardaway
Interesting article in Rolling Stone about the entertainers who took money from Gaddafi as well.
- Aron Michalski
Why would MS want to support iOS?
- Michael Krigsman
MS ship OneNote and Messenger on iOS
- Kevin Marks
not that I can remember my Windows Live ID to try it
- Kevin Marks
But today's MS doesn't compete on the bleeding edge
- Michael Krigsman
Took him 10 years to port Mac OS as Windows.
- Aron Michalski
Redmond fighting to restart developer interest in Sharepoint http://www.sharepointsaturday.org/
- clive boulton
The problem is not bleeding edge or not -- it's quality of design!
- Michael Krigsman
The design sensibilities of the Mac create ease of use, that's the draw for so many new Mac users.
- Michael Krigsman
mixing is a tactile experience; touch is a major improvement for Garage Band.
- Aron Michalski
The leak of Remond talent to Kirkland turning to a stream
- clive boulton
Robert, that VMware product you describe is fascinating!
- Michael Krigsman
the difference is that on the iPad you can create the feel of an instrument
- Kevin Marks
Steve, you are living in a future ivory tower that is far removed from the life of most of us ordinary users
- Michael Krigsman
The 5th Beatle can be the mixer, directing the sound into a cohesive view.
- Aron Michalski
GarageBand is awesome, but I really hope they'll have MIDI input somehow... otherwise, it doesn't make sense to play on the screen.
- Nir Ben Yona
you mean Midi output, Nir?
- Kevin Marks
MS was concerned about Linux going back to the 1997 timeframe
- Michael Krigsman
Kevin: sorta. Something that will help connecting a Midi Controller.
- Nir Ben Yona
In and out.
- Aron Michalski
Not just MS either. I feel less compelled to invest in full Adobe Creative Suites.
- Alex de Soto
conversation about iOS and iTunes begs the question ... what about the 'protesters' at the Apple event the other day ??
- studentforce
Canadian government cabinet ministers all have government issued iPads.
- Brian Sullivan
funny .... my wife was watching a Xoom commercial yesterday and said ... "take a look at the Motorola iPad" its like calling a tissue a "kleenex'
- studentforce
http://www.computerworld.com/s... I liked this article
- Kevin Marks
Hey! I have the 3GS still!!!
- Alex de Soto
2.5G here
- Jerome Hughes
I sold my 3G the day before the iPad2 announcement. Planning to buy a new one next week.
- Michael Krigsman
With all that money in the bank, what's keeping Apple from going in the cellphone provider business?
- Ward Mundy
Why waste money on ATT/Verizon 3G? I use my Android personal hotspot.
- Michael Krigsman
Rumors Win 8 - further ahead on Tablet than letting on http://bit.ly/hA1e7d
- clive boulton
Not sure iPad is really a text production platform though: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/6101...
- Kevin Marks
finally an interface the granola boxers of the 60's can throw some shapes with.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin: with a Bluetooth keyboard? Absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
I have trouble blogging on the iPad. But I don't use the Bluetooth keyboard
- Francine Hardaway
BMW had a L7
- Jerome Hughes
Windows L8 even sounds great.
- Ward Mundy
not sure if I get Ditto yet.
- Jamie
Different circles - the last 4 people whose machines I jumped on had IE6 :-p
- Denise Howell
Jamie: the UI needs a little bit more work to expose what's interesting there.
- Robert Scoble
ditto needs an iPhone and Facebook...
- Kevin Marks
Denise: I only talk to the tip of the spear. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I hope you fixed that for them, Denise
- Kevin Marks
The Xfinity apps from Comcast are pretty good.
- Alex de Soto
I have an iPhone and Facebook. What I need are friends :)
- Jamie
Kevin: there are lots of computers in conference rooms, lobbies, etc that aren't upgradeable by users and no one cares about them to upgrade them.
- Robert Scoble
It's becoming one channel, with multiple windows.
- Aron Michalski
Someone should caption you with your (er) hand up Robert: "Talk to the Tip!" Re fixing, yes, immediately.
- Denise Howell
Imagine; we've reached the point where we want less channels.
- Aron Michalski
My gogoinflight+iPad experience last week didn't work, the iPad choked on that connection. Also the hotel's later. Annoying; was glad I had the Air along too. (The good news is both fit comfortably in a purse.)
- Denise Howell
I know, Denise. I have both and take them both, too. But that's a problem
- Francine Hardaway
They are protecting the interests of the corporation they are part of.
- Aron Michalski
the chap gave me a channel list, and I had no idea which show is on which channel, as I use a DVR
- Kevin Marks
The network blocking/non-neutrality actions of the providers will be the big issue.
- Aron Michalski
Basic TV and Fat pipe for Google TV is what I have.
- clive boulton
I get 22 channels over_the_air.
- coldbrew
AT&T would give me free install only if I chose a TV package. I'll cancel it.
- Kevin Marks
Even the Time-Warner on demand has half of the primetime offerings, then you have to shift to a different provider on their internet connection to watch Fox/ABC on demand.
- Aron Michalski
make a good app and pay 30% and relinquish your direct relationship with the customer ..... any thoughts on this ??
- studentforce
The cable company bundling packages are non-sensical.
- coldbrew
espn3 is an exception for sports games....watched bowl games that I couldnt get with my limited basic
- dlature
It is signatory issues... Robert is right until the production structure of content is changed to incorporate ads/retail in (and hypervideo will do this) they will shift over to the new model... and like Apple, as they just set the precedent, they will take a piece of the revenue from integrated retail).
- davidlee
It's the value of intent over the value of "cache" there was a story earlier this week of a girl who sells 100,000 copies of her fiction through kindle without a publisher
- Stephen Pickering
Yes, she writes vampire crap for teens, apparently.
- coldbrew
The Last Mile is so important, and Comcast is my only choice
- Stephen Pickering
Coldbrew, yeah I didn't see what she writes, still its interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Pickering: I agree, just pointing it out for those that don't know.
- coldbrew
WiMAX last mile, what happened?
- clive boulton
How about fiber for the last mile?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!!??!
- Stephen Pickering
ZipTV, love it
- Kevin Marks
cliveb: tech issues. Spectrum is still valuable.
- coldbrew
Superbowl parties, Oscar parties
- Kevin Marks
No Reservations
- Jim Posner
Comcast keeps sending me notices about DLing Bill Maher shows (like I don't know I'm DL ing them)>
- coldbrew
What? Bill Maher is on HBO. Huh?
- Stephen Pickering
Idol on HD; kinda like manchego Cheetos.
- Aron Michalski
Last mile spectrum issues need FCC solution (Fat Pipe, Fat Chance)
- clive boulton
Comcast needs HBO exactly like iOS needs Amazon and Google.
- Stephen Pickering
I found the 720p quality on AppleTV better than the HD on the DVR - less compressed looking
- Kevin Marks
AJE shows there is a market for serious news on devices. I hope startups move into this space.
- Jim Posner
Yes. But, they are getting DMCAs from HBO b/c im on the torrent (and so are ~300 other people).
- coldbrew
Ah, IC.
- Stephen Pickering
news consumption is always "bursty"
- Jim Posner
Apple's pricing is simply stunning. It's flabbergasting the market.
- coldbrew
JohnB echos Eric Ries #leanstartup learn from MVP (min value prod)
- clive boulton
lovin' the Chartbeat possibilities & Borthwick is right it is about complex television / film production structure.
- davidlee
coldbrew: Did you mean flummoxing the market?
- Alex de Soto
de Soto: Perhaps.
- coldbrew
This has always been about art. What's the point in having the hardware unless you're creating content of interest?
- Aron Michalski
I have to choose the ipad for the same reason I've chosen the custom machine up 'til this point.
- coldbrew
Robert's right
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: My thoughts EXACTLY. The Kinect is definitely a top-notch product. Thing is that Kinect is a Prime Sense development.
- Nir Ben Yona
I think they could build the company around Kinect
- Francine Hardaway
xPad x everything
- Stephen Pickering
A whole company around a UI component?
- coldbrew
I mean re-build the company by letting those old divisions die
- Francine Hardaway
And yes, a whole company around UI. That is what APple's doing
- Francine Hardaway
Or maybe it's UX. At bottom, that's what all companies are built around
- Francine Hardaway
The innovator's dilemma is alive and well.
- coldbrew
Give me a tool to create. Give me a tool that will push me beyond my current work. The pen, the typewriter, the computer. The will to write and the ability to say something has to be there; the tool can take you to the next level.
- Aron Michalski
Talked about Roku+Amazon Prime yet?
- Denise Howell
my boys are playing minecraft, not xbox
- Kevin Marks
Enterprise can use Kinect to videoconference
- Francine Hardaway
xBoxes in the break room of the enterprise
- Stephen Pickering
big xbox user myself..wish it had youtube and a browser
- Jim Posner
Could MS build a Kinect device to plug into an iPad that's connected to an HD monitor?
- Alex de Soto
I want Prezi as a real iPad app...
- Kevin Marks
Marks: I have to believe your kids are above average. Not to be a snob about it.
- coldbrew
wish apple tv ran iOS or had safari
- Jim Posner
sure, I'm scobleing... but MineCraft is a huge phenomenon - Google should fund an Android port
- Kevin Marks
the browser doesn't work on the TV
- Jamie
I thought the PS3 had a browser that worked pretty well.
- Jim Posner
i'm not even convinced apps will
- Jamie
I have a PS3 and browsing on it is just terrible Jim. control pad as an input device really isn't ideal
- Jamie
ffs, everyone send your good health vibes to Borthwick.
- coldbrew
really wish I could browse on my iPad and flick to the tv
- Jim Posner
The Apple iOS device platform is also very adaptable or extendable. Medical devices, sensors, etc. will easily hook up. I'm sure Android and MS will move in that direction.
- Alex de Soto
the Quick Bar
- Jamie
shows you trends and promoted tweets
- Jamie
new Twitter App on Android UX blows
- clive boulton
i agree Robert....hate it
- dlature
annoying ...really annoying
- davidlee
it's so annoying .. moved to echofon
- Naor Mark
Totally agree with Robert. A petition has been created to remove this http://www.petitionspot.com/petitio...
- Mark Krynsky
it is very instrusive.
- dlature
Tweetdeck for Android; good stuff.
- Aron Michalski
it will be gone. If we all hate it they will kill it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Seesmic for Android got a nice update this week
- Kevin Marks
Robert will pay for the rest of us.
- Aron Michalski
Borthwick reminds me of the trade federation from Dune :)
- coldbrew
sry man
- coldbrew
Hate that part of the new Twitter app too. They did add some interesting features though. You can turn "Ignore local trends" in the settings and turn off pinstripes, whatever that is.
- Alex de Soto
I was happily using the official Twitter client until this update and I'm sure that myself and others will now explore all the 3rd party alternatives again....not good for them.
- Mark Krynsky
Hillary says VoA should become more like AJE. Wonder if the US could produce a credible network.
- Jim Posner
I really like the new Echofon Pro.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hey! I just turned off pinstripes and local trends and the little black bar went away!
- Alex de Soto
The spice must flow.
- coldbrew
Time to check out Seesmic or Echofon (easier than petitions)
- clive boulton
Interesting Alex...I turned off local trends yesterday but it had no effect. Pinstripes I didn't try but will now.
- Mark Krynsky
Oh no! The little black bar didn't really go away. :( Sorry Mark
- Alex de Soto
local trends are an optional setting.
- Mark Krynsky
Do the deal sites have twitter feeds with substance?
- coldbrew
Mine doesn't have it, guess I haven't updated yet
- Stephen Pickering
pinstripes
- Aron Michalski
it doesn't remove it, just make the annoyance local :)
- Naor Mark
Yep! Sorry. I thought I'd give it a shot.
- Alex de Soto
No Alex...those settings do not kill the bar...
- Mark Krynsky
PER device.
- Aron Michalski
it makes the annoyance less local
- Kevin Marks
People that pay more than $55/ device for 3g are lost.
- coldbrew
Right Kevin
- Alex de Soto
right. and i agree with Nir, echofon looks nice...
- Naor Mark
I use Echofon on mac now
- Kevin Marks
Get better, Borthwick.!
- coldbrew
Mobile = combining life with technology, creativity with technology, a huge boost in productivity.
- Stephen Pickering
Pick it up at the Austin store..maybe I can help..walking distance from me Robert.
- Jim Posner
I checked our echofon for mac but it doesn't work well with Hebrew (important for me) i'm using YoruFukurou mainly
- Naor Mark
Scoble: If you talk about apps anymore, I'm coming to your house to shut you up :)
- coldbrew
Obviously, kidding
- coldbrew
apps Schmapps, we need web too. ditto needs a web app
- Kevin Marks
Kevin...and Android!
- Mark Krynsky
ditto
- Jamie
Marks: You are always the voice of reason here.
- coldbrew
YoruFukurou - tongue twister
- clive boulton
Thank you Doc, Thank you Kevin, John and Steve!
- Aron Michalski
Thanks, as always, you guys.
- coldbrew
(and Tina...)
- Aron Michalski
Almost inspired to buy iPad 2, but living in hope GoogleIO gifts a Tablet
- clive boulton
I'll get one but not when the store opens.
- Aron Michalski
Thanks Aron. We're both behind the scenes kind of guys, aren't we?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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