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Pay for Your Grande Latte at Starbucks With Your iPhone - http://theappleblog.com/2009...
I pray for a Starbucks drive-through between home and work in Dubai more than an iPhone app ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
I pray for a Starbucks drive-through between home and work in Dubai more than an iPhone app ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
I pray for a Starbucks drive-through between home and work in Dubai more than an iPhone app ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
@jny2 yup, until I hear more about FriendFeed's future it's hard to justify spending my attention there.
Matt Snoulten, Paul, Bruce Lewis and 22 other people liked this
Robert, are you spending time in FF because you enjoy it and it benefits you? Or because it might benefit you in some way in the future?
- Amit Morson
Amit: I have a limited resource of my attention. I push it to places that the most geeks hang out and that has the best chance for future success. FriendFeed has an uncertain future now and it'll be a few more weeks until I know for sure what Facebook is doing with the team.
- Robert Scoble
My question, Robert, if you don't like FF then why are you sending your streams here? I liked you, but not if you keep saying bad things about FF and trying to scare people away from it. Sorry.
- Molly, "sorry"
you could ruin the entire current experience contacts learning etc by worrying about a future that will or won't get here with or without your anxiety
- WarLord
Amit: That was pretty close to what I was thinking.
- Simon Hicks
Molly: FriendFeed is an aggregator and I still show up here every day. But anyone who says they know the future of FriendFeed or hasn't noticed that engagement has gone way down here (especially among geeks) isn't paying attention. That doesn't mean it's not a valuable service, by the way. But it's clear that the market is now Facebook and Twitter so I'm pushing a lot more attention there to hedge my bets. That seems to be smart.
- Robert Scoble
Even if no one is here, the aggregator has great value. Why? Because Twitter search sucks and FriendFeed's search lets me look back a lot further than Twitter search does.
- Robert Scoble
i'm goin' down with the ship! FF4LIFE
- Chris Heath
Even this post demonstrates far lower engagement. A month ago this post would have gotten 150 comments already from people arguing with me.
- Robert Scoble
Face it - we're all addicts and we'll still be on until it's taken from us
- Jesse Stay
so then is the question where did those 150 commenters go?
- WarLord
FF definitely has a place and can do things that Twitter can't - like >140 characters for a start.
- Simon Hicks
1. I ain't adding anyone I interact with to Facebook!!! 2. Twitter sucks for multiple participants interaction.
- Amit Morson
Jesse: I am an addict, but I do need to hang out where the conversation is happening too. This is both my life and my business.
- Robert Scoble
robert, maybe people have given up on arguing with you .. hm?
- Chris Heath
Amit: I agree that FriendFeed still has many advantages, which is why I'm still here.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: not true. You miss that my Saturday night post got 30,000 visits already? The conversation has moved onto other platforms.
- Robert Scoble
yeah, but people on FF have given up arguing with you is what i meant... (in general of course, i know some still do)
- Chris Heath
Robert, I believe the lower engagement is due to it being a weekend.
- Amit Morson
Chris: I'm watching other people's accounts on FriendFeed and it's not just mine that have seen far lower engagement.
- Robert Scoble
i'll agree that engagement (if you want to call it that) has gone down (some) but i'd say it's less than you think - of course FB buying FF will drive away whatever % of the users who are anti-FB - that's something i take as fact, but that % is smaller than you think....
- Chris Heath
I guess I'm goin' down with the ship as well ;-)
- Amit Morson
what i'd really like to see is some hard numbers from the ff-team on user activity since the sale [edit: also do you know when they started live updating the comment edits here? i think i've only noticed it in the last week or so]
- Chris Heath
I guess I just don't have any 'chips' in the social media 'game' so I don't have to be on the bleeding edge. I'm here for the social aspect of FF that has been built, not necessarily the exposure/reach.
- Johnny Worthington
It's funny when you hear that Johnny isn't here to expose himself!
- WorldofHiglet
Johnny, and still you expose yourself more than most ;-p
- Amit Morson
Chris: that was added a couple of months ago. Compete and other services will have data out soon. Keep in mind I've gotten 2,000 new followers since Facebook bought FriendFeed but they definitely aren't coming back very often. Johnny: my whole life I've looked at where early adopters spend their time. We all used to be on Prodigy, for instance, and now aren't anymore. :-)
- Robert Scoble
WoH... court order, you know... 'Unpleasantness'
- Johnny Worthington
I hope they keep the FF functionality as separate site or built-in to FB, I'm just starting to discovering this stuff
- Magnus Nystedt
I understand Robert's position 100%. Not even the FF team has a crystal ball. Yet, I still like the tools and search and the people here, so my usage hasn't changed much and probably won't.
- Louis Gray
I think it's the difference between a 'place' and a 'tool'.
- Johnny Worthington
Magnus: it can't be built in. FriendFeed wasn't designed to survive loads of hundreds of millions of people. So if the features here are to be moved into Facebook they will need to be rewritten. I also doubt that FriendFeed will be turned off, but I am looking forward to when we hear exactly what will be done with it.
- Robert Scoble
Gawd... look, just 'That's What She Said' all my comments on this thread...
- Johnny Worthington
Robert, there's a gestation period for friendfeed... the discrepancy between when you join and when you being to 'engage' -- it was brought to my attention tonight in one of leo laporte's entries http://friendfeed.com/leolapo... -- in the comments people wondered why the tool wasn't giving their join date and instead their first post...
more...
- Chris Heath
Louis: I've cut my usage down from "on FriendFeed every minute of every day" to merely your level. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Chris, what does not having the join date mean? Does it mean that the count starts only from your first interaction?
- Amit Morson
Amit, i believe so... the developer commented in leo's thread
- Chris Heath
In that case it's more of a social interaction tool than an aggregator. But than, everyone who spend time here knows that.
- Amit Morson
Doesn't Facebook owning FriendFeed guarantee it's stay more? (Even the FriendFeed guys stated that it's more guaranteed to stay now)
- Hugh Isaacs II
from iPod
Hugh: yes, but it doesn't guarantee that the team will be left on it to improve it. And no new features will mean that it will become less and less relevant. Market conversations only happen due to new features.
- Robert Scoble
you can't use twitter in the same way as we use ff on http://www.kranjiracing.com (bottom of page)
- Simon Hicks
And, anyway, the Facebook iPhone app already shows that Facebook is headed in a good direction and one that will make FriendFeed unneeded within 18 months.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, maybe FB will give them 20% time or something... maybe that's in the deal... lots of maybes... i get your point that we need to know more
- Chris Heath
Chris: I will stay on top of FriendFeed. I have a 48,000 reasons to care about its future! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Simon, interesting leveraging of FF - nice!
- Micah Wittman
Thanks for all the info scoble! u rock!
- Jason Pollock
Allocating attention seems a bit of an odd concept. If something was the best tool, and it was going away in 7 days, it still makes sense to use it for 6 days.
- Christopher Galtenberg
this is sounding like a pitch to save the jobs of the ff team - which i am for. They've done a great job so far.
- Simon Hicks
We all appreciate all the guidance which u graciously share with us... thanks again!
- Jason Pollock
Micah: Thanks. It is a very flexible tool.
- Simon Hicks
Simon, It's not a pitch to save the jobs, It's a pitch to save the service and keep it evolving.
- Amit Morson
Robert, you're great at stirring the pot! Breaking out the popcorn for this episode ;)
- Shane
Simon, yea good use of the embed... i do similar at http://chrisheath.us and messed a bit with individual blog posts for instance http://blog.chrisheath.us/2009...
- Chris Heath
Amit: yeah, I'm for that too :)
- Simon Hicks
Christopher: not true. If you are building a media business you need to dedicate your efforts to places that will continue to get distribution. Would you rather take a job at a big TV station that's going out of business in a week or one that will stick around for a few more years?
- Robert Scoble
allocation of attention is merely dealing the the currency of time rather than strictly in monetary transactions as economics so frequently is wrongly limited to examining.
- Nathan Eckenrode
Or, another way to look at it. Let's say that you want to talk with people who are into quilting. You have a choice. One place has 50 quilting fans and keeps losing fans. Another place has 5,000 fans and keeps growing. Where do YOU spend your time?
- Robert Scoble
Chris: Good stuff. See, the ff crowd have done a great job providing a great "home away from home" tool.
- Simon Hicks
yup - and nice 'chattin' with y'all i'm off for some cookout http://friendfeed.com/ccheath...
- Chris Heath
Robert, it's true, though by how it seems now, only the Facebook haters (and not all of those) left FF. Most people stay here particularly because they don't see it as an investment like you do.
- Amit Morson
Putting aside FF a moment, it's been interesting to see the (rudimentary) stat of usage of my translation script (http://translatorize.com ) between Facebook and Twitter. To date: Facebook has more activity. Obviously, FB has the big pot of users, but I would have thought the geekier twitter crowd would have compensated for that considering it's a tool, not a general interest, consumer addon. Anyway, thought I'd share.
- Micah Wittman
I was thinking about it tonight b/c Google announced more languages were added to Google Translate, so I need to update all the scripts.
- Micah Wittman
Amit: one reason I travel the world and actually meet with people is to gauge what they are excited about. And I can tell you a LOT MORE than just Facebook haters have left here. Most of the geeks I hang out with say they definitely are visiting FriendFeed less.
- Robert Scoble
3 years from now, FF is going to be alive and running and sporting cool features. So this seems to be about something else. Where the bleeding edge is residing, perhaps. Or maybe just where Robert's friends are spending time. I'm not bleeding edge. I'm looking forward to the days in the future when there are people still here sharing, both old timers and new fresh users. Which is also today.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Christopher: some people still use AOL too. So? I like to be with the geeks and will allocate my time based on where they are and where I think they may be.
- Robert Scoble
So the question is: Where are all the geeks now? Facebook?
- Winston Teo
We are here, quietly plotting.
- Louis Gray
Still here
- Jesse Stay
and Facebook
- Jesse Stay
and Twitter
- Jesse Stay
i'm back from cook out... with a full belly and i'm gonna watch some simpsons... talk amongst yourselves
- Chris Heath
Just half a geek compared to some of y'all, but still here and Twitter. I still have a hard time wanting to "invest" in Facebook. There is no conversation there. This is conversation.
- Karma Martell
What I want to know is what will you 'Geeks' do when Google Wave launches?
- Sandra Large
I'm not sure FF has ever been the front-line or redoubt for geeks. I thought we were here because this technology and place is simply special -- it fills a big gap and provides a service. The cool kids have always been elsewhere. To paraphrase one tech guru's recent comment... "So?"
- Christopher Galtenberg
Most of the people who signed up for FriendFeed are geeks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Maybe in the beginning....
- Joe
Everyone's still here just engagements have fallen generally across the board until FriendFeed announce it's going to stay around (when Facebook says "FriendFeed is our R&D it provides us with 300k users to bucktest features")
- Nicholas James
Let us know when you find a better forum to spread your wings
- Houseofmax
Other than twitter/facebook, where do you plan to "invest your time"?
- timepilot
The FF integration with FB is excellent -- my whole news feed on FB comes from FF, and my friends can't tell a difference. I only expect this integration to get better. FF thus becomes your "advanced tweakable news feed", with support for "off-FB conversations".
- Christopher Galtenberg
Snow Leopard sold by i-weaver for 190SR http://www.saudimac.com/2009... سنو ليوبارد من آي ويفر بقيمة ١٩٠ ريال http://www.saudimac.net/2009...
That's the upgrade right? Pretty expensive.
- Magnus Nystedt
STC is having problems with their billing system - http://www.khaled.us/stc-is-...
Etisalat too (http://uaetumblr.com/)
- Magnus Nystedt
@mnystedt that's what http://uaetweets.com/ is for in the first place :)
Ha ha... ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
What lenses was I using? @wbsmith200 asked. I only was using a 600 mm F 4.0 lens http://twitpic.com/fs3gd is me holding it with @rex7
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jaw drop.... don't be complaining of back pain!
- Dakota O'Neill
dude, you are here in Indianapolis.
- Harold
It's not the size of the lens, it's the fact that Scoble's using it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So how long are you going to bore yourself out here with us, Robert? Did you bring any other FFers along with you?
- Kamilah Gill
Let's call it Minox.
- Desirade
Mine is *this big* [stretching out his arms....]
- Magnus Nystedt
Kamilah: sorry, but I'm having too much fun in Indy to care. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm glad you are enjoying our Circle City! ;) Did you drive around it at night? Take Maryam on a carriage ride?
- Melanie Reed
Robert: could take mean Surf pics with that baby!
- Geer
heh-heh. You know your lens is big when it makes your 5D look like a little point and shoot. Nice shots with it, Robert.
- John Lutz
Huh, Robert? I didn't quite catch your meaning there. You mean you don't care how long you'll be here? Or you don't care what I said? :(
- Kamilah Gill
Nikon HB-46 Bayonet Lens Hood for Nikon 35mm f/1.8G Lenses - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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so this hood is ready for the hood? (hd)
- Khaled A
I've ordered the lens but it's back ordered. This is a reminder to myself to check whether the lens hood is included with the lens. I always try to use lens hoods where they're available, even if I have to pay extra for one.
- Magnus Nystedt
I finally got the lens and I love it!
- Magnus Nystedt
So who is in Du's Media Club? Anything I should know about it?
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick liked this
Du has a media club? Where can I find out more about it?
- Sanjive Khosla
If you look at their press pages at du.ae you'll find it, dumediaclub.com
- Magnus Nystedt
Leaving Blackberry behind http://www.shufflegazine.com/2009...
Ahsan Ali aka. Slick liked this
Isn't it probable that Etis*l*t monitors iphone data packages too ? Passes through their servers, no ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Sure, they could do it pretty easily. But as I said the Berry fiasco wasn't really the reason for me to drop the Berry, it was however a good excuse.
- Magnus Nystedt
from email
I'm still with Google Reader, tried most everything else, doesn't work as well for me
- Magnus Nystedt
same here Google Reader all the way. I amusing Feedly to interact directly with GR
- zsafwan
FriendFeed real-time search takes over my social browser, Cruz
Svartling, Kol Tregaskes, Amani and 17 other people liked this
Using all 4 browsa Plugins with various searches... far right is for regular friendfeeding
- Bwana ☠
Just loaded the Cleaner FriendFeed userscript... looks even better :)
- Bwana ☠
I am curious what you use to make your browser windows split?
- alfred westerveld
you maniac!!!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Alfred - Cruz browser http://cruzapp.com/
- Bwana ☠
@bwana thx, aha macosx only..... There are also 1 for firefox => https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US.... I haven't fully tested it ...
- alfred westerveld
felix turned me on split firefox, I'm going to play with that one later today
- Bwana ☠
Cool, I'll have to try Cruz
- Magnus Nystedt
Last night I built a file people can download to have a local version of what I call SteroidFeed, here is the link if anyone is interested in making changes http://friendfeed.com/lph... People can download and make changes as they see fit.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
dubai
What about it ? :P
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Sorry, what about what? :-)
- Magnus Nystedt
Good to see more Dubai 'tweeps' trying out FriendFeed ;) You're Freeps now !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Sid Meier's Pirates! comes to the Mac - http://www.macworld.co.uk/macsoft...
That's a fun game, played it years ago, have no desire to play it again, even less so to pay for it. Unfortunet...
- Magnus Nystedt
Attention Corporates and PR agencies: read NOW! - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
So true, so true...
- Magnus Nystedt
Dubai residents sickened by sewage - http://business.maktoob.com/NewsDet...
Yuck
- Magnus Nystedt
Starbucks to cut up to 12,000 jobs, close 600 stores - http://digg.com/busines...
Shocking!
- Magnus Nystedt
Finally a solution to iPhone-home speaker noise. - http://www.9to5mac.com/red-bul...
Good use of Red Bull :-)
- Magnus Nystedt
Etisalat signs strategic alliance with Microsoft to collaborate on ICT technology initiatives - http://business.maktoob.com/NewsDet...
Our two favorite companies ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
Rogers BlackBerry Bold Launch Party Dates & Locations - http://crackberry.com/rogers-...
Wonder when it'll hit the UAE and whether there'll be a 3G plan to suit it.
- Magnus Nystedt
View PDFs from the comfort of your own Firefox - http://feeds.macuser.com/~r...
A must have add-on for Firefox.
- Magnus Nystedt
In Ten Years Time, Will Apple Be the New Microsoft — an Abusive Monopoly? - http://technovia.co.uk/2008...
No surely not... not Apple ;-)
- Magnus Nystedt
AT&T staff cancel June holidays - http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-it...
Guess we know what'll be happening then... then :-)
- Magnus Nystedt
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