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Chris Brogan posted a message

“I posted a comment on Plurk that I didn't like it, didn't get it. They got all mad that I didn't reply to their "conversation." Is every statement a conversation? Um, no.”

August 3 at 4:41 pm - Link

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I'm not loving Plurk: the search is inadequate at best. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

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Good point Chris. Plurk is a valuable microblog (microforum) yet does have a certain drama factor that's impossible to dismiss. - "Czar" DJ Peterman

I just don't like the headless avatars. FREAK ME OUT. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

those headless critters do me in! and don't get me started on that stupid karma concept...lameO. I do like the visual timeline, but it's too cluttered if you follow more than 100 people... FAIL - Susan Beebe

Leo Laporte has been having the same problem on his forums. Seems like you are not allowed to have personal views these days. It also seems like now, when I start yelling at the brick wall, the brick wall starts yelling back...crazy man, just crazy. - Bob Blunk

Every statement is not an invitation to converse, but when the statement is about not liking where you are, it's not surprising that you got a response. Sticking to meal reports would be safer! - Linda Mills

I think Plurk responses are similar to FF comments; people are having a conversation about what you posted, and there is a certain expectation that you're aware that people can and do reply.. Except on Plurk, you have the option to turn off replies on a per-message basis. So if you want to make a statement that isn't a conversation, you have a few choices: Twitter, Plurk with replies turned off, a blog with comments turned off, et cetera. - Teel McClanahan III

@Linda, exactly. Chris, with all due respect, you can't come onto plurk - say "you're sorry, you don't like it" (or something to that effect) as your plurk - and then not expect to get a reaction/comments. - Zee from WeDoCreative

Man, it so so good to see some people sticking up for the coolness of aspects of plurk. It feels like to a certain degree - Plurk has been cool to dislike because a lot of the 'web celebs' have slated it. - Zee from WeDoCreative

But here's one for the crowd. What if I don't like it? I'm supposed to be all kool-aid about it? You know, it's very likely that we will find things in the social media universe we don't like. Want another? Second Life. Great if you like it. Just nothing going on there for me. I don't mind that people want to explain why it's great. I just don't chose to go for it. - Chris Brogan

i'm pretty sure you'd get that reaction from the Twitter loyalists too. Or any service with a loyal following for that matter. So you don't get it. Isn't that what most people said about twitter at first? I know i did, and the same with Plurk. You may not have used the service enough to really know it's value. Or maybe you did, and just don't like it. fair enough. But you can't come on there, say you don't like it, an expect everyone to be hunky dory with that. They're not hating on you, just questioning. - Chris Cavs

i have found plurk to be too clunky for my taste. I'm still giving it an honest effort. It's just not a format that resonates with me yet. - Richie Escovedo

I opened a Plurk account, tried it out, but could never really get the hang of it. I earned enough karma to re-design my page, which is cool, but I still do not have the time nor patience to familiarize myself with it. Bah! That being said, I'll still mess around with it from time to time. Overall, not my social hub of choice. - David

i think plurk is a great interface...looking to solve a different problem than microblogging. for example, plurk as a team project management tool could be interesting. everything doesn't have to become the next twitter. - .LAG

See, and I like Plurk, but I think that its usefulness depends a lot on who you're friends with there. For me, Plurk solves a lot of the problems I have with Twitter (easy following of conversations, being able to walk away and easily see what you missed). Twitter feels very needy to me, if I'm not looking at it constantly I'm missing the conversation. A lot of the people I liked talking to on Twitter didn't join/get Plurk, so it feels like a tug of war. - Teel McClanahan III

Hmm... let me put that another way: For me, What's good about Twitter is the people that use it, forcing information through the limited tool it provides, and what's good about Plurk is the tool itself, the way it allows me to connect and communicate with people easily. @Chris, I didn't see your Plurk or the conversation that followed directly, but this statement and your blog post give the impression you *don't want* conversation/comments/responses. - Teel McClanahan III

FUBAR! Do not like it? Not happy? Take a walk! No one is here to please and entertain you! - Igor The Troll

But if you consider your followers as part of your entourage you maybe forced to feed them! I guess depends on your style! - Igor The Troll

Teel McClanahan III shared an item on Google Reader

Trust in booklovers, not reviewers

August 1 at 1:42 pm - Link

I also read Lissa Warren's entire post, but didn't want to share it because I felt that implied I agreed with it - I don't, and this article comes very close to why. I think that the people who share Lissa's opinion are looking for something that might better be called "Literary Criticism" than "book reviews," a much more humble term - and I think the more humble term (and review) is what most people are looking for. It's only the elite and elitist who look for that (I say boring) level of refined criticism in a book review. - Teel McClanahan III

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A Softer World: 335

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This one, I think, will be one of the ones that sticks, that haunts. Its words effect me, which I like, even though I'm not sure I like the effect they evoke; I like being effected. - Teel McClanahan III

Corey Strock dugg a story on Digg

WSJ: Obamanomics Is a Recipe for Recession

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The lowdown on U.S. passport cards

July 28 at 12:44 pm - Link

Do passport cards work the same way as traditional passports? No. Cheaper passport cards can only be used for land and sea travel between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and the Caribbean. For any air travel outside of the U.S., you need a traditional passport. - Teel McClanahan III

Is it easier to get a passport card than a traditional passport? Alas, no. The application process for the cards is the same as it is for traditional passports. With both, if you're eligible to mail in the application, you'll save the potential hassle of waiting in line at the post office or courthouse. Royster says that the cards will eventually have the same turnaround time as traditional passports (currently, about four weeks). But don't expect a four-week turnaround this summer: The State Department began accepting applications, first come, first served, for the cards in February and received more than 350,000 requests. It has mailed out 7,600 cards and expects to have the rest of the preorders sent out by the end of September. If you applied for a passport card today, the earliest you could expect to receive one is after the initial 350,000 orders are filled. - Teel McClanahan III

Shawn Farner posted a message on Plurk

“shawnfarner feels like the Karma system is flawed. What if I can't get on Plurk EVERY DAY?”

July 25 at 5:36 am - Link

Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I'm not letting karma control what and when I should post. No more one dimensional conversations and superficial posts. - Hao Chen

I feel like that's the POINT of the karma system: if you're generally on Plurk most days, your karma moves/stays generally high, and if you don't make much use of Plurk, if you regularly go day after day without use, karma goes down. I can tell at a glance whether you use Plurk well or not by looking at your Karma. - Teel McClanahan III

Also: I took a two-week vacation, only plurked on two of those days (we had internet those days), and my karma barely budged. There's a hit for not using, but it takes a LONG time - it's looking for patterns, not punishing for not following imagined rules. - Teel McClanahan III

Eric Rice posted a message

“My Karma is at 1.95 for plurk. Maybe I can change my profile in like 12 years.”

July 25 at 3:49 pm - Link

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I did have an afterthought. If you want to provide limited edition goodies for Karma points, fine. Let's move beyond 'karma is stupid anyway' and play along. Karma for goodies, yes; Karma for basic acct maintenance, absolutely not. You are missing a revenue opportunity and setting up a community to be fake, esp since it's a metric to game. That opens it up for spammers, too. - Eric Rice

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I agree I think thesixtyone deals with the idea of karma in a much more coherant fashion, letting you earn things for use not penalizing you for lack of use. - Steve Spalding

Depends on how they calculate Karma - it's supposed to work against spammers. I've found that -if you use Plurk- you have plenty of Karma. And if you don't use plurk, or you spam plurk, you don't. Seems like a good system, to me. - Teel McClanahan III

Right, and I don't have a problem with it for a reward system or whatnot, but for customizing a profile? Come on. That's a premium feature. I seem to recall paying Wordpress for the ability to add custom CSS to wordpress.com... it's a social game-- that's what it will breed. There's not an algorithm to get around human nature. - Eric Rice

I mean, does everyone need a revenue model shoved heartily up their ass, or are we going to cling to the Whuffie ideology all the way to the unemployment line? - Eric Rice

Still can't figure out why to Plurk. Hurts my brain. If you send ten Plurks and add some folks, Karma seems to go up. - Clay Newton

Yeah but you can't do it *too much* ... there's a set of parameters to master. I sound retarded explaining this, all I want to do is update my profile and do a little CSS. Here's their page: nevermind I can't link. Karma can be gained by inviting people (no), updating profile (did it ages ago), uploading pictures, 'having fun on plurk will give you more Karma' - Eric Rice

Clay, it's a twitter clone, like everything else, but it's the principle of it. - Eric Rice

I don't know, but using plurk actively makes it easy to have meaningful communication with people there and build relationships - which I've been more successful at turning into sales than on other social networks so far. Don't care about karma if the basic use of the tool actually works for me. - Teel McClanahan III

Right, Teel, what happens tho is that the presence of it will foster an environment around you that might affect you whether or not you pay attention to it or not. I actually don't care about Karma either (I mean I think it's dumb in general), but it doesn't affect me negatively until now. When it gets in my way. Other than that, I'm ok chillin in an enviro that has the potential to have accelerated superficiality is all. - Eric Rice

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Shapeways Aims to Make 3D Fabrication Cheap and Easy (Invites)

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Always keeping an eye out for new Fab techs and services. Nearing reasonable costs and usability. - Teel McClanahan III

James Williams (willia4) shared an item on Google Reader

Good lord that’s a lot of money.

July 22 at 4:42 pm - Link

I have just learned that people in NYC will pay $15 for a sandwich. This is $6 more than what they would pay for an entire chicken. - James Williams (willia4)

That must be a pretty good sandwich. Have to keep in mind that if I visit NYC, I won't be able to afford to eat. - Teel McClanahan III

Hao Chen posted a message

“Which has more benefit to you: participating heavily on one social media site or participating a little across multiple sites?”

July 21 at 11:48 am - Link

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I like the 80/20 rule. Spend 80% off your time on the network where your audience is the strongest, 20% time on the others. - Hao Chen

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I like the 100% rule better. 100% of the time treat people like people, not like an audience. - Robert Seidman

I think concentrating efforts here and participating a little everywhere else has been very beneficial to me. So I guess 80/20 works great. - Rahsheen™

Since I don't consider myself to have an "audience" as such, I just use whatever tools work for me, and that means working tools. ie: Not much Twitter in June. - Teel McClanahan III

FF 80 Flickr 15 FB 5 - Russellreno

Eric Rice posted a message

“Working on my Flickr presentation. Teaching flickr to a bunch of brand new users on Wednesday night! \o/”

June 2 at 11:46 pm - Link

it's amazing to think there are people who don't yet use flickr - Lynne d Johnson

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And, on top of that, web services in general. The presentation after me is about Yahoo Groups. Every time I give a workshop I learn so much, especially if the crowd is younger than me. - Eric Rice

I don't "get" flickr the way other people seem to. Can you explain what I'm missing... Why it's "amazing," and what those people (ie: people like me) are missing? - Teel McClanahan III

Flickr? :D - Mark Forman

i always forget that the lives are early adopters are just that -- early adopters. but i think the use of flckr is much more widespread now. i'd love to see your presentation when finished. can you upload to slideshare? - Lynne d Johnson via Alert Thingy

I have a Flickr account but no longer a pro account. I will not give money to Yahoo. - Gary Wiens

Teel: just a place to post and host your photos where others can publicly or privately see them. It's one of many services out there. This one was one of the first true 'social' successes with everyday people media. My mom learned about my dramatic haircut via flickr. :) - Eric Rice

Lynne hehe what makes you think I'd dare do a slideshow? I'll show flickr, use it, and give others a chance to be hands on right then and there. :) - Eric Rice

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“The LiveScribe Pen is the coolest gadget I've seen in quite some time: http://qik.com/video/93099”

June 2 at 10:05 pm - Link

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Yeah, it's cool for its intended audience, but I can't imagine any need I'd have for recording audio while writing. - McCain's Buddy Tad

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It looks like an Anoto pen. - Peter

translation looks interesting/promising - americanm

That's one device that came out ahead of its time - can't wait to see more wireless networking features - Jesse Stay via twhirl

fail to see the 'cool' part. Similar products around already, i would believe? - Parth Awasthi via twhirl

This is on my "I want" list, but I can't really see myself buying it. - Sandra Fernandez

LiveScribe probably costs more than I would pay for a pen. - Morton Fox

no.. this pen is really great.. as a meeting tracking device. very slick. peter showed it to me - Andrew Deal

It's the perfect solution for its intended audience, i.e. me, a journalist, or a college student or anyone who needs to take meeting notes on a regular basis...and they've only just begun to explore the possibilities with it, it's Anoto's technology finally reaching fruition for me. http://urltea.com/39ne - Chris Nuttall

Re: Peter & ditto Chris Nuttall, this IS an Anoto pen, plus audio and a tiny screen. I assume they were inspired by what was going on over at Leapfrog with the FLY Pentop Computer (targeted at teens, but with more useful, thoughtful functionality added to Anoto than anything until LiveScribe). 2nd Gen FLY was pretty promising, but LiveScribe is much more mature. - Teel McClanahan III

T-Mobile was selling a product like this back in 2005, all based on dots on special paper. They where selling it as PoD product or sales people on the road, or people that have to give paper to the customer - Rif Kiamil

I'm not sure if it's LiveScribe, but HP showed me one of these pens that uses paper with unique dot patterns on each sheet. It leaves an audit trail of who wrote what when. - Tom Basham

LOGITECH sell something near http://www.logitech.com/index.... - b-noud

Chris is right - I really want one. - Ian Betteridge

I have tried Capturx http://is.gd/pWF - pretty good but the only issue is that they require special paper.. - Amit Agarwal

I have seen more interresting stuff... Maybe because I forgot how to write with a pen! xD - Dieter Schwarz via Alert Thingy

I like the idea, but it's as thick as one of those old kindergarten pencils we used to use. Too awkward for efficient writing. Make it the size of a good fountain pen and we'll talk. - steplow is Steve

I've had this on my wishlist for a little while now. It's a great idea. I don't even know if I really have a need for it, it's just so cool. - J. McConnell

Wow, that made me happier than you can ever know. I have to write everything before I post it online because I flow better that way. That is absolutely perfect for me. As much as I post online, I really hate to type because I'm not very good at it. I actually hired my 12 year old to type for me this summer at $10 an hour. I am SOOOO getting that pen. I've dreamed of that invention coming out and there it is. Thanks Scoble, you're a doll. - Sheree Motiska

the livescribe pen is very cool, useful in meetings & its not really that big - seems easy enough to adjust to using it... - mike "glemak" dunn

Eric Rice posted a message

“Open thread re: blog comments' relevancy in the ADD^H^H social attention world. (I was doing a demo of a frenzy on Twitter, using the topic of a real issue that's bothering some people, me included.)”

April 2 at 11:16 am - Link

2 issues: it's easier to stir up convo all across the web but not on a blog and also, if we kiss blog comments byebye, maybe that means we can make our sites/blogs more like magazines. There's cred in that to a lot of people NOT of the blogging ilk. So what's the post-blogger era look like, at a place between Old Media and New Media? Enjoy! - Eric Rice

In light of all the posting back and forth about whether people are "parroting" each other last week,: a lot of blog posts today ARE comments re: other people's blog posts. When everyone became a blogger, instead of just commenting in the blog's designated comment area, they commented by making a new post, with a link to the original one. We need a way (much better than trackback) to create/track multi-directional links between these, because this is the "future" (read: present) of blog comments. - Teel McClanahan III

Eric Rice posted a message on Twitter

“Maybe we should all have personal Mahalo pages that scrapes all convo from any network and we can stitch it to a blog post /smirk”

April 2 at 11:11 am - Link

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Hey it's only a matter of time til Mahalo is more popular than Google. I'm sure their 'guides' know more about me than I do. - Rob Safuto

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Sometimes the biggest functionality comes from violating the TOS of all these sites (facebook is a perfect example, but they are too microsoft-y). All the talk of standards, and really. Warm bodies in database tables are where the money's at, sheesh. Jason could prolly figure out how to do this, people will get pissy and bitch, he'll cash out, and our eyes will well up with tears when looking at our google AdSense sidebar, mygod i need a hug, /snort. - Eric Rice

Anyone who is looking to centralize the "conversation" should start by centralizing their web publishing. And if they don't have the discipline to do that then they can pick a place where they will reply to comments and stick to it. If the people don't show up then that says something about the publisher's ability to start a good conversation. - Rob Safuto

Yeah and Rob, that's the thing I think people are calling old fashioned. - Eric Rice

They're wasting their time trying to make the world exactly the way they want it to be. Oh, but what they want changes all the time. It's pretty childish actually. - Rob Safuto

Rob, I don't really care if the conversation is "centralized" as long as there's some way for it to be found. If I find a blog post and want to comment on it, but the really "hot"/active comments are on some other site not linked to at the blog entry, how am I to know I'm talking to myself? And if I do comment at the blog's location, there's no way for the people in other locations to know my comment is there. It needs to be multi-directional, ooh, hey and there is a limit on comment length here: - Teel McClanahan III

multidirecitonal, so that the "conversation" on all the different people's ff links to the same blog post are linked/joined, and with the blog's local comments, and with other related parts of the conversation. Right now it's nye-impossible (even with good search) to have a good idea of what's being said, and where. - Teel McClanahan III

When I comment on a post it's because I want to provide feedback to the author of the post. If I want my comment to generate more conversation or otherwise get noticed then I write a blog post and link back to the original post instead. - Rob Safuto

Jesse Baer posted a message on Twitter

“noooo damnit damnit damnit oversleppppppt bad timingggggg!!!!!”

April 1 at 6:42 am - Link

I overslept and missed my plane to Vegas. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

We're just oversleeping because we subconsciously don't want to see anymore fake news today. - Teel McClanahan III

Steven Hodson loved a song on Last.fm

Yello – Oh Yeah

March 31 at 11:47 am - Link

Whoa 80s/Ferris Bueller flashback! - Robert Seidman

Yello is one of my favorite bands - Steven Hodson

I think clicking this link is giving my napping wife strange dreams. Possibly dreams of Matthew Broderick, but that's strange enough, eh? - Teel McClanahan III

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Chris Brogan posted a message on Twitter

“Of your last 10 blog posts, how many are original thoughts?”

March 30 at 8:02 pm - Link

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I haven't had an original thought in 15 years - Duane

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I had an original thought, Googled it, and discovered that 143,561 had the same thought. - Robert Scoble

Exactly half of them. - Jack Carlson

I see we've found a new meme for this week. Ironically, we'll all be discussing original thought, but there will be 400,000 blogs on it - Bwana McCall

This originality meme strikes me as eerily similar to the "innovation" debates for software vendors. At EOD, who cares? Fast followers and people improving on the original happen all the time across all kinds of endeavors - usually it's a good thing. Originality is overrated. - Todd McKinney

I'm pretty sure that somehow they were all inspired by or lifted something from an old southern blues/folk song circa the Great Depression. ;-) - Andy Sternberg

It's ok to be second, tenth or even one thousand and fifty-third. - Greg K.

10 of my last 10 posts were based on my thoughts, or breaking news. Tell me I'm wrong @ www.louisgray.com. - Louis Gray

The idea of a thought suddenly appearing out of ether runs contrary to logic. But, I'd say the value isn't thinking something first–it's executing well. - Drew

As I Photoblog I guess all of them aren't as they merely represent other things, hmmm All confused now! - Phill Price

@Scobleizer's comment hits at the heart of the argument. Throughout history, inventions have sprung up simultaneously and originally in different parts of the world. The difference now and online is that it's easy to prove that someone else had a similar thought but it is not so easy to prove that the writers new of each other's throughts when writing their own. Even the great thinkers of the past synthesized knowledge that they had accumulated into their own writings. - Seek Ground

Many original thoughts...for me.But what about my friends?:) - Igor Poltavskiy

That's kind of a silly question, as technically, everything coming from a unique individual is original in some way. My posts are very personal, so although I may comment on something 100 people have also mentioned, my provocation to do so and how I express it are quite likely somewhat original. - JM (Nettie) Daum

The relationship one establishes with the audience is most important to me, including intention. I know certain "social media experts" are reading the same material, which influences their writing; however, because I follow various modes of their expression, I can better determine whether I trust them and want to continue listening. - JM (Nettie) Daum

All my blog posts are original and personal - I haven't yet been able to wrap my my head around the concept for "the conversation" which is constituted by hundreds or thousands of people saying the same thing on hundreds of blogs and in hundreds of different comment streams. What's the point of that, again? - Teel McClanahan III

Most of them. I don't write about what other people write about; I write about what interests and engages me. Sometimes tech, sometimes politics, always my own thought. - Francine Hardaway

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meebo, the web messenger that lets you access IM from absolutely anywhere. meebo supports msn, yahoo, aol/aim, google talk (gtalk), jabber and icq. - Teel McClanahan III

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