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The Paramount in Portland OR is a very nice hotel...glad we chose to stay here
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Congrats... :) Wish you guys a "Happy Married Life!" :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Wedding venue web cam http://www.WestEndWebCam.com username is guest and password is guest http://leibee-scoblewedding.com
Nir Ben Yona, Derek Coward, Helen Sventitsky and 62 other people liked this
Wedding starts at 4:30PM on Saturday, 12/12/2009
- Alex Scoble
*SCREAMS*
- sofarsoShawn
¡ROCK.AND.ROLL!
- Christopher Harley
from iPhone
Bump! This is this afternoon, guys!
- Rochelle
Congrats Alex!
- Shevonne
Congratulations!
- Heather Solos
Missed the webcam post earlier -- thanks for the bump.
- Brian Sullivan
I'll bump it again later, too. :)
- Rochelle
Congrats! Hope y'all have a wonderful day!
- Laura B.
To-night's the night!
- Christopher Harley
Have a good day Alex Scoble
- Andrizzle Gizzle
\o/ What time zone? Mountain?
- Jason Huebel
Jason, Pacific.
- Rochelle
Congrats Alex and Cassandra .. happy moments always
- johnpiercy
Congrats! Fantastic!
- rowlikeagirl
@Rochelle, I thought Alex was in Utah? That's in Mountain TZ.
- Jason Huebel
Beaverton, OR -- says his Twitter profile.
- Brian Sullivan
Yeah, he lives in Beaverton, OR. No idea where you got Utah from!
- Rochelle
Oh. Huh. Who's in Utah then? *scratches head*
- Jason Huebel
I see unwed people.
- Micah Wittman
Congrats Alex!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
CONGRATULATIONS!!
- joey
Oh, the venue looks lovely!
- joey
A lifetime of happiness to you both. Congratulations!
- Steve
WHOOOOOOO!!!! CONGRATULATIONS! I LOVE WEDDINGS
- sofarsoShawn
Congrats to the both of you................love and kisses from LI NY
- VAL D. Zone
*buys bag of rice to throw at monitor*
- Steven Perez
It's too bad this cannot be embedded in a FF page somehow -- we could all watch the activities (and even better than being there) discuss in real time here. I guess though watching in separate window and discussing here is just about as good.
- Brian Sullivan
oh man this is exciting!
- Lo
Brian, we can discuss in this thread just like how FFundercats is done!
- Rochelle
Wow, streaming your wedding.. cool :)
- Thomas Bøhm
WE HAVE MOVEMENT
- Johnny Worthington
Pretty chairs!
- Alix Whitmire
I see the cake!
- Rochelle
We need to get Alex to give us a sign
- Johnny Worthington
What's it called when a group sends someone to an event, to spy? Not in an enemy way like a true spy, but just to be there and send signals to the outside world. Maybe that's a spy. Or a plant! Is that what it's called? Maybe we should have sent a plant.
- Rochelle
A mole?
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Congratulations!!
- martha
Also, congratulations and have fun this evening!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Yeah, a mole! That's better. Do we have a mole on the inside?!
- Rochelle
Have a great wedding Cassie and Alex. And Alex, get off FF already, you don't wanna be late for this one! ;-)
- Rene Wirtz
Now the question is, will Alex pull out his phone and update FriendFeed like that guy in the YouTube video last week pulled out his phone to update his Facebook status during the middle of the wedding?
- Rochelle
Yeah, I need to start getting ready in a few minutes...my family is coming to my room at 2:30 and then we do pictures
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Hey they're putting on table clothes right now... this is really cool!
- SAM
Congrats, can't wait to see it.
- SAM
Congrats... :) I'm going to bed now :( I thought to watch it. But, damn sleepy now.. Somebody please wake me up! I'm from IST :P
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
The chairs are beautiful.
- EricaJoy
I can't stay long, but hang in there, A & C! :)
- Micah Wittman
so happy for both of you... Congrats!
- Harold
The tree looks so pretty!
- aden
DID IT START YET? DO I HAVE TIME TO ORDER PIZZA?
- Steven Perez
Steven, you have 1 hour, 45 minutes.
- Rochelle
SWEET! IMMA GET SOME ICE CREAM, TOO!
- Steven Perez
Oh, the lights on the tree came on!
- Alix Whitmire
I wish there was sound.
- Rochelle
Sound would be nice. Very pretty room.
- Laura B.
I see people! (Well, sort of. My connection is lousy.)
- Laura B.
I don't get anything. Maybe it's reached a connection limit?
- Jason Huebel
Seems ok from where I am.
- Brian Sullivan
working for me too?
- holly
I can see, Jason. Maybe you need to reboot?
- Laura B.
@Laura, no it just won't let me connect. For those who are connected, I'd recommend not closing your browser.
- Jason Huebel
Oh, boo, Jason.
- Laura B.
holy wow! I'm grabbing some popcorn and wine. :)
- Call me Bronco
Which side is the groom's side?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Usually the right, Steven.
- Laura B.
oh look, someone's here. HI PEOPLE!
- Call me Bronco
Hmm, won't work for me. Image returns a not found symbol. Might be because I'm international
- Mo Kargas
same here Mo. Not international
- Steve
I SEE WEDDING PEOPLE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Pretty purple dress!
- Laura B.
I spy a bridesmaid!
- Call me Bronco
not working for me :(
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
rats. maybe people are having browser issues? I'm using Firefox/Mac OSX if that helps.
- Call me Bronco
Using XP with Firefox and it's working fine for me. Then again, I've had this browser session open all day.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Working okie for me on Win7 and Chrome. If it's got too many people maybe I should log off so family can get on?
- Alix Whitmire
YAY!
- Rochelle
I just logged on 10 minutes ago. I don't think it's an overload issue.
- Call me Bronco
Got Vista/Firefox working fine; also have the Modify Headers plug-in forwarding for 12.13.14.15 by default if that helps anyone, in case there's an international thing going on.
- Mark H
Haha. We're putting the wedding cam on our huge HDTV with music on in the background. What kind of music should we play?
- Rochelle
Al Green
- Call me Bronco
Barry White?
- Laura B.
Al Green, Barry White, and Marvin Gaye.
- Call me Bronco
Oohh. I'm nervous!
- Rochelle
GET. IT. ON.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm getting a broken video image :o/
- Nurse Katie
It was working for me earlier and not now :( (Firefox/Vista)
- Maria Niles
Akiva can't see it with OSX. He tried Chrome, Chromium, and Safari. I can see it fine with Windows 7 and Firefox.
- Rochelle
Not working with XP/ Firefox :(
- Jimminy Fuller
I'm on Vista with Firefox. I just rebooted and still can't get it to work. :(
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Ooh! Camera pan!
- Mark H
I'm falllling.. *watches cam move*
- Alix Whitmire
HEY! WHO'S MOVING THE CAMERA?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Panning!
- Rochelle
screenshot http://friendfeed.com/orchid8...
- Call me Bronco
urgh....nothing in FF or IE
- Nurse Katie
Cool centerpieces!
- Alix Whitmire
Vista/Firefox working here.
- Laura B.
*feels a little seasick*
- Call me Bronco
I tried loading the image manually, I get "The maximum number of clients are already connected "
- Bryce Roney
Aww, maxed out then.
- Rochelle
oh. :( I feel bad.
- Call me Bronco
I was wondering if there was a viewer limit, I'm not seeing it either and I'm just in Vancouver.
- Joe Pierce
:o( Bummer
- Nurse Katie
Woot Got in, after about 2-3 dozen refreshes, just like old school FF fun.
- Jimminy Fuller
I bowed out since we are gaming in a bit, so hopefully other people can get in now. Someone grab me a screen shot of the two of them up there for me later? :D
- aden
How appropriate, Jimminy. ;)
- Call me Bronco
I spy Robert Scoble.
- Call me Bronco
Aden, will do.
- Rochelle
Definitely aden.
- Call me Bronco
Sarah, where is Robert?
- Rochelle
he walked past the stage and out the door on the left.
- Call me Bronco
venue is really pretty.
- Call me Bronco
So are the colors silver, white, and navy? Or is that purple?
- Rochelle
It is Sarah. :)
- Jimminy Fuller
dresses seem to be a sort of eggplant/purple. hard to tell on monitor.
- Call me Bronco
The dress looked purple earlier.
- Laura B.
The cake looks delicious.
- Jimminy Fuller
The chair ties looked blue when all of the lights were on.
- Rochelle
men are all pre-ceremonial. wandering around and looking important and nervous.
- Call me Bronco
Showtime!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Jimminy, it just looks like a white triangle. Haha.
- Rochelle
OMG I SAW ROBERT
- Rochelle
I think it looks more like a Devo Hat. But white.
- Call me Bronco
I love Christmas weddings. And that they're collecting toys for kids, that's so cool.
- Call me Bronco
Do the attendees know there's a webcam?
- Laura B.
We need a webcam with a CSI-style zoom-with-enhancement.
- Mark H
I feel like the peanut gallery. It's a good thing they can't hear us.
- Call me Bronco
It's 4:30!
- Rochelle
photog is taking pictures of the guests.
- Call me Bronco
I like how everytime the flash goes off the room gets washed out.
- Jimminy Fuller
*blinded*
- Alix Whitmire
any wedding worth its salt starts at least a few minutes late.
- Call me Bronco
Hahah. Is that Milan? He's the ring bearer.
- Rochelle
POTTY BREAK.
- Call me Bronco
Weddings never start on time.
- Steven Perez
from IM
ok the kid is back.
- Call me Bronco
I bet it's going to start! Everyone in front left.
- Rochelle
Oooh I'm already teary.
- joey
I'm at the ready with Skitch for screenshots. :)
- Call me Bronco
Thanks :)
- aden
IS IT TIME TO START THE ELECTRIC SLIDE YET?
- Steven Perez
from IM
YES OMG START IT
- Call me Bronco
this is sort of like SyFy Saturday night. Only different.
- Call me Bronco
I had the same thought, Sarah. :)
- Laura B.
*passes tissues to Joey*
- Alix Whitmire
parents being seated by ushers.
- Call me Bronco
Or ushers. ;)
- Laura B.
I am ready to throw rice at my screen
- aden
LOL. You caught it, Sarah.
- Laura B.
No Sound ????
- johnpiercy
I only have cooked rice.
- Laura B.
LOL.
- Call me Bronco
THIS IS TEH BESTEST SYFY SATURDAY NIGHT MOVIE EVAH!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Seasick!
- Laura B.
IT'S PANNING!
- Rochelle
oh camera pans down. i think we're going to follow the bride in?
- Call me Bronco
IT EVEN HAS BETTER SFX!
- Steven Perez
from IM
TO THE DOOR!
- Rochelle
Sarah, yup.
- Rochelle
This play by play rocks
- aden
or not? panning back.
- Call me Bronco
how come no sound
- johnpiercy
because. no sound. it's not mic'd.
- Call me Bronco
DO ANYBODY NO WHY DIS MOVIE IS SILENT?
- Steven Perez
from IM
HEADS TURNING.
- Call me Bronco
I see legs up front.
- Laura B.
bridesmaids coming up the aisle, meeting the men.
- Call me Bronco
HEADS UP!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Beautiful!
- joey
YAY!
- Rochelle
This is exciting!
- Laura B.
here he comes
- johnpiercy
cute!
- EricaJoy
Colors people tell me the colors!
- aden
I've never watched a wedding from my sofa in jeans.
- Laura B.
Awwwwwwwwwwww
- Alix Whitmire
STOP MOVING THE DAMN CAMERA!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Weird camera pan...
- EricaJoy
!!!!!!!!!
- Rochelle
The panning is annoying. We'd better get to see Cassie!
- Laura B.
I need some Organ music
- johnpiercy
Yay!
- Laura B.
OH, SNAP!
- Steven Perez
from IM
GORGEOUS!!!
- EricaJoy
here comes the bride
- Call me Bronco
Aww gorgeous bride!
- joey
sorry hard to comment and screenshot simultaneously
- Call me Bronco
CRYING
- Rochelle
waaah, i can't see the venue on my screen. keep your comments coming!
- Marie likes mistletoe
is that purple or navy blue?
- EricaJoy
LOVE the long train on the dress.
- EricaJoy
looking good alex and cassie
- johnpiercy
I vote purple.
- Alix Whitmire
Dude, she's too pretty for Alex.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I thought it was purple, but the lighting is kind of weird.
- Laura B.
We need to zoom back up to the front.
- Laura B.
OK, now comes the boring part. SKIP TO THE END!
- Steven Perez
from IM
we need the Priest Camera
- johnpiercy
MAWWAGE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
lol
- EricaJoy
about to post some shots, see my feed in a sec for those.
- Call me Bronco
THAT DWEEM WITHIN A DWEEM ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
moar zoom!
- EricaJoy
I zoomed in with my browser!
- Rochelle
Real nice setup Alex and Cassie have here. Bridesmaids are in purple. Groomsmen are in black. Except for Robert - he's wearing Twitter blue. [/just kidding]
- Steven Perez
from IM
awww this is so sweet. I'm so happy for them.
- Call me Bronco
LOL, Steven!
- Laura B.
And they get to escape all the Christmas drama and spend the holiday in Jamaica. Lucky bastards!
- Call me Bronco
Heh.
- Laura B.
yeah i want that zoom back. why did they zoom in and out so fast?
- Call me Bronco
the camera operator needs to be on friendfeed
- EricaJoy
lol
- Call me Bronco
blah blah blah love between a man and a woman blah blah blah
- Call me Bronco
Attention to the next couple to get married live on FriendFeed: Qik or Ustream please. Or 12seconds if you're keeping it brief.
- Mark H
HAH 12second wedding.
- Call me Bronco
oh zoom!
- Call me Bronco
ZOOM!
- Rochelle
OY! Enough with the zooming!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yay zoom!!!
- Alix Whitmire
OMG
- EricaJoy
VOWS!
- Rochelle
facing each other. definitely vow time.
- Call me Bronco
VOWS!
- Steven Perez
from IM
The vid won;t play!!
- WorldofHiglet
blessing of rings, i think
- Call me Bronco
WoH it's at capacity for viewers, I think
- Call me Bronco
RINGS! ONE RING TO TWEET THEM ALL!
- Steven Perez
from IM
did he kiss her yet?
- WorldofHiglet
nope we're not there yet
- Call me Bronco
screen cap the kiss!! :) you know when it happens
- aden
i will
- Call me Bronco
Call Me Bronco - THANKS fr the Live Play by Play
- johnpiercy
MUCHAS SMOOCHES!
- Steven Perez
from IM
:) happy to do it
- Call me Bronco
awwww :)
- WorldofHiglet
alex and cassie turning to face the celebrant as he says some words
- Call me Bronco
first time Ive seen a wedding streamed ..
- johnpiercy
MUCHAS SMOOCHES FTW!!!!!
- Steven Perez
from IM
XOXOX's
- johnpiercy
W00T! ALEX AND CASSIE SCOBLE!
- Steven Perez
from IM
omg i think they HUGGED
- Call me Bronco
and now they're walking out
- Call me Bronco
Mr and Mrs Scoble
- johnpiercy
i think i missed the exact moment. lol.
- Call me Bronco
Lovely.
- Mark H
*throws rice at screen, drops pants*
- Steven Perez
from IM
Huzzah!
- aden
YAYAYAY!
- Rochelle
Now Dancing with Lampshades ?
- johnpiercy
Whoo-hoo!
- Laura B.
TIME TO GET DRUNK AND PAR-TAY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
*drops pants, too, even though I couldn't get to the video*
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Bird Dance
- johnpiercy
Oh wow!
- WorldofHiglet
Now we need a party/reception cam.
- Laura B.
Laura, I think the reception is in the same room so we'll be able to see that, too.
- Rochelle
Congratulations Mr and Mrs Scoble!
- WorldofHiglet
that was a quick service
- johnpiercy
yay! that was sweet. ok time to make dinner now, then back to check out the reception. here come the CATERING ROUNDS.
- Call me Bronco
purple tablecloths, natch.
- Call me Bronco
BREAK FOR POTTY, THEN IT'S TIME TO EAT AND THEN GET FUNKY!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nice quick service; we approve. Purple bridesmaids; Mrs we approves. Nobody fainted; well, you can't have everything.
- Mark H
Awesome!
- Laura B.
Damn I missed it -- they are setting up now for the dinner?
- Brian Sullivan
Yep.
- Laura B.
So, there must be a bar area for guests, and then photos are being taken?
- Cristo
For some reason I thought they did pix earlier. Did Alex post something about that?
- Laura B.
Sometimes they do family shots before, and then do more photos between ceremony and reception.
- Cristo
Alex said earlier that they were doing photos before.
- Rochelle
Candlelight. :)
- Alix Whitmire
:) :) :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
Cool
- Rodfather
I am waving at you!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The wedding was awesome. Milan almost choked at the beginning though.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yeah we saw that Robert. Too funny.
- Call me Bronco
Reception looks like fun. Tell Alex and Cassie we love the hell out of them.
- Call me Bronco
He knows that, loves you back.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
How geeky is this wedding? Three Droids and counting! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
YES! I have a connection!
- Mo Kargas
Too late :(
- Mo Kargas
Just saw their first dance! Awwww!
- Mark H
Yeah, very nice first dance!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Can you hear too? I wish you could cause I am gonna do a toast.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Nope. :(
- Alix Whitmire
No sound unfortunately
- Mo Kargas
Congratulations! Looks like a great day!
- Jim Addz No Value
Best wishes for the Scoble family. Thanks for sharing with all of us!
- mrsha
Mingle mingle mingle.
- SAM
Best wishes to the Scoble family ,MAZAL TOV
- Johni Fisher
Congratulations! Best wishes!
- Anne Bouey
That was so cool :)
- Lo
That was so awesome. I read every word since I missed the streaming... :-) Congrats, Alex & Cassie!!!!
- Lisa L. Seifert
Congrats to you both! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
A long and happy life to you both. Many blessings.
- Dawn
Congrats and Mazel Tov Alex. Best wishes for you both !!!
- Nir Ben Yona
No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit
Elenius, Jim Huller, Faraz Mullick and 718 other people liked this
LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
That poor cat looks so confused.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
but it's so warm on top of the scanner!
- DJF
Time for a cat scan!
- Jemm
Iz I the right way up for printing?
- Vicky
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
LOL, Soup!
- Kol Tregaskes
that is one adorable kitten!
- Anna Lynn M.
<3
- Furkan Tunalı
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
Kitty!!!!
- Janice
keep trying!
- Morgan Haley
FEED ME A CAT
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying.
- Steven Perez
Push harder
- Josh Haley
LOL@Jemm
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
آخی
- یک بابک
Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
1 closer....hilarious!
- Jeffrey Marsh
There we go 150 likes. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez....
- Stephanie Segel
I think you mean a LIVE cat…
- Mistletoe Glen
thanks, i needed a laugh
- chaz2b
FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED
- Karl Knechtel
iz dat some copycat?
- bora "head" basman
LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer!
- Threepwood
Just one more like... please. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's over two huuunddreeeed
- bora "head" basman
MOAR!
- Pat Hawks
I need 9 copies please !
- Faraz Mullick
A cute cat :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Haha, Faráz.
- Kol Tregaskes
Next target, 250 likes. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
اخي...گناهي
- noonii
Friendfeed loev faxcat :o
- Karl Knechtel
;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Pussy by fax. What will they think of next?
- Mattb4rd
X))
- Nia
OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, this thread is pure genius.
- Alex Scoble
But only almost 50 comments.. :)
- Simon Wicks
Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate!
- Ivan Zuzak
Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there we go then for the 1500+!!
- Jaap Willem
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified...
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy!
- Kol Tregaskes
Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again.
- JSNFLMNG
¡Excelente!
- Marcos Vicente
I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder
- anna sauce
Hehe, Anna. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P
- Richard A.
I'd like again if I could :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
bump
- Simon Wicks
Richard, LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesomely funny!
- Martha
Next target: 400 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
theres one more for you Kol
- Toby Graham
Toby, you're very kind. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cute *_*
- Sybelle
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
can you spare a cat 6 likes?
- JSNFLMNG
sweet
- Eric Hofmann
Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT.
- Mike Nayyar
Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome.
- Alex Scoble
this is underfaksink at its worzt
- Petr Buben
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
Ah, OK, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
433 Like ! Wow !
- Like
Freemor, yes very cute! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
cute~
- Chan Pen
that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax.
- Phil Maxwell
oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink
- Petr Buben
Just 5 more likes needed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier.
- Bob Blunk
Fax, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Ok, over the top now.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
LOL, Kevin.
- Kol Tregaskes
i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED!
- sofarsoShawn
Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Countdown! 8 more now!
- Mike Nayyar
bump for more likes
- Josh Haley
bump
- Roberto Bonini
One more!! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I took mine away, too much pressure.
- Steve C
Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот
- Парадокс Смейла
пиздец как!
- getalifejerk
Kendra, absolutely. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
wish I could double like!
- metalerik
Wish I could just like it at all. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
But it's a cat being crushed...
- Richard A.
برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟
- H.M.Nasrabadi
Hehe, Richard.
- Kol Tregaskes
copy cat
- gibilix
518 like! most liked post?
- Lu Tao
ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :))
- Arzu
Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
*bump*
- Andre
Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!!
- Kol Tregaskes
So we know how many people use this site.
- Richard A.
So that's what Paws Printing means.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Richard, we getting there. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Jack, hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
this thread is making history.
- vijay
Indeed .. this is a most epic thread
- Mattb4rd
Hehe. 9 more for 550!
- Kol Tregaskes
8...
- sofarsoShawn
7. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this"
- sofarsoShawn
Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get???
- Roberto Bonini
Gosh, no idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
take some bets then come back in a year to check?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:)
- SokooteDel
Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes!
- Mattb4rd
552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
560!
- sofarsoShawn
And back down to 559. Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo?
- Susan Beebe
I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat!
- Rich
Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
564!
- sofarsoShawn
I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken
- JSNFLMNG
maybe a good way to clone cats :)
- Roberto
Hehe, Roberto.
- Kol Tregaskes
This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!?
- Kol Tregaskes
It could! Keep bumping it up!
- imabonehead
It will :)
- Roberto Bonini
My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun...
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-)
- j1m
No yet. Close though. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Stuck on 581.
- Kol Tregaskes
Most liked FF post ever?
- Kristian Salonen
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
11 more to 600. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟
- Exir
هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D
- Shayan
Hehe, 6 more likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600
- Josh Haley
Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's 598+3, at the moment ;-)
- Andre
There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!!
- Kol Tregaskes
3 people un liked :(
- Roberto Bonini
I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well.
- Kol Tregaskes
too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;)
- JSNFLMNG
Haha, Jason.
- Kol Tregaskes
614!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Whoa! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)]
- Petr Buben
Petr, who's he?
- Kol Tregaskes
omg, this post passed 600 likes!
- imabonehead
@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there ..
- Petr Buben
I see. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Day 11 and this thing's still going!
- Phil Maxwell
Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible
- Megan Craig
Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry!
- Jérôme Flipo
Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography?
- sofarsoShawn
Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-)
- sofarsoShawn
this makes me laugh every darn time I see it
- Stephanie_Happy2010!
Who is this NShawnFW? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
kitties do like to find new spots to nap :)
- Maryam
LOL, now over 650 likes.
- Kol Tregaskes
این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟
- Maryaminaa
Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol?
- Roberto Bonini
Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it will
- Seltoon
what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :)
- Maryaminaa
Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
lol
- Maryaminaa
I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture
- Kevin J Hatton
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE.
- Kris Roley
Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead
- Mattb4rd
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
10 more likes for 700! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
7 more by my count!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy?
- aerobroken
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not so bad huh? \u)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
try harder! ; ))
- Didier Lahely
Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-)
- Rick Cogley
Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday ..
- johnpiercy
Must try this at home!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Bumping some old great posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Now THAT is a classic!
- Allan Besselink
you have to flatten it first!!! ;)
- Neda S.
This is very good humor!
- TrafficBug
Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
just a couple thousand to go
- JSNFLMNG
LOL
- Smeerch
__awesome__
- Matteo Scotuzzi
and it got resurrected once again!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy.
- Seth Greenblatt
Chrome OS will help kill Silverlight and other non-open tech, preventing msft and others from recapturing the web. (though I expect that it will support Flash by necessity)
ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,, Charles Frith, Vladimir Yashnikov and 149 other people liked this
Good point.
- Robert Scoble
I hope it doesn't. After all we need good media delivery platforms.
- Swaroop
Including GNASH - the open source alternative - would solve that problem
- Bogdan Costea
yeah, nobody really needs flash. kill it.
- Zio Bonino
Microsoft will port it. It's all about codecs & DRM. Ogg Theora isn't all that great.
- Rodfather
Chrome OS might be a compelling case for SVG/<canvas> + <audio> tag replacements for flash. Dunno what SVG's perf is like on WebKit tho.
- Matt Mastracci
Is that Steve Jobs disguised as Zio ?
- Swaroop
@Swaroop Yes, we do. Like HTML5.
- Benjamin Dobson
@Swaroop eh eh, I've got flash disabled on all my systems :)
- Zio Bonino
@Benjamin I'd prefer HTML web apps over native apps anyday. But it'll take time for it to mature
- Swaroop
Rodfather, I don't think that will be an option for msft :). If Chrome is built the way I would do it, there is no installation per-se -- everything runs in the browser and the config in stored in the cloud (and cached locally). The computer is a pure appliance.
- Paul Buchheit
@Zio You're the real Steve Jobs
- Swaroop
Microsoft moves much too slow to force new standards these days.
- Louis Gray
@Louis: IE8 flunking ACID test :)
- Swaroop
What about more standard codecs like h.264? That isn't open and is in hardware already.
- Rodfather
h.264 is established and must be in there, but it's not a platform like Silverlight is.
- Paul Buchheit
I know some of the guys behind silverlight. It is some great technology. Too bad it's from Microsoft and is closed.
- Joe Beda ()
from iPhone
A world with no Flash and Silverlight. I can't wait.
- Paul Grav
Yeah, it's too bad they didn't open-source it. This stuff with Mono is silly -- if you want to make a real standard you need to make the real implementation be open.
- Paul Buchheit
MS are about 10 years too late with Silverlight. And they'll most likely be dragged kicking and screaming into supporting HTML5.
- Paul Grav
Zio sez (hopefully humorously): "yeah, nobody really needs flash. kill it" -- have you ever watched a single YouTube video in your life? Like seventeen gazillion other people across the wired world. yeah, you're right, nobody needs Flash. ha!
- .LAG liked that
Remember Dave Clark in 1992, "We reject kings, presidents and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code."
- Guy Vander Heyden
.LAG: most YouTube videos are playable without Flash now. My iPhone plays most of them and it doesn't have Flash. Certainly by the time the Google OS came out YouTube would be converted completely to non-Flash capability.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: The youtube flash application helps read the flv files on Youtube's servers and provides a UI (decoder too).
- Swaroop
Even Google admits they're not sure I'd bit for bit html5 video is less bandwitj consuming than flash. And flash isn't just media delivery, also interesting games and apps like tonepad, splicemusic.com's online sequencer, etc (I'm musically inclined, so most of my examples will be along that line) and please don't suggest we redo it all in java
- Ed F
from Nambu
Does this mean the next Silverlight release is codename Seppuku?
- Jay Cuthrell
Maybe we'll see commercials encoded in movies if everything is open.
- Rodfather
Flash is too established to kill off right now, so I'd be surprised if Chrome didn't include flash support. It will take many years to get rid of that thing. First they need to fix the standard browser to not be so broken (lack of video, multi-file upload, etc), then they need everyone to switch to the new html5 solutions.
- Paul Buchheit
Scoble ...that may be true, and YouTube plays on my Pre without Flash (yet)...but that doesn't mean that "nobody needs Flash." really? what would replace it?
- .LAG liked that
So Google's NaCl http://code.google.com/p... (now integrated within Chrome/Chromium) was just a temporary workaround, right?
- Jérôme Flipo
Use HTML 5 instead!
- Minh Bui
Is it just me or does Native Client (NaCl) remind you of the Microsoft Active X approach?
- Daniel Chow
But who prevents Google from taking over the net?
- Andreas
youtube videos play on iPhone/iPod Touch as they are higher res mp4 files NOT flv files. It was a big deal when Steve negotiated that deal with youtube.
- vijay
You have Moonlight to run Silverlight applications in Linux. Not perfect, but then an application made on Silverlight is "not perfect" by definition
- Marcos Marado
The point here is that Google has no motivation to include Silverlight on these machines, and installing software likely won't be an option (it's a web appliance), so it will be absent from a lot of netbooks, just as it is absent from iPhones. That cuts into market share, which is a bad thing for a platform that is trying to compete with more universal tech like Flash and HTML....
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- Paul Buchheit
@DanielChow: NaCl has very little overlap with ActiveX, apart from running native code. It runs in a provably safe way, and explicitly does *not* allow it to access arbitrary host APIs. But it can be quite useful when you need to run code that would be too slow in Javascript (even on v8): e.g., heavy encryption/decryption, possibly codecs, definitely game physics, and so forth.
- Joel Webber
There is a time and a place for Flash and Silverlight so I hope it will run it. There are simply some things you can do which aren't possible, or practical in html/css/javascript.
- Steve Temple
Paul: why wouldn't Chrome OS come with Moonlight? And if not, why wouldn't you be able to just install it? And third, why the hell would people want Moonlight for? I never installed it and not even once felt the need to!
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
because of moonlight http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlig... the potential userbase of silverlight is greatly improved, agree that projects which don't consider compatibility are limiting their potential
- Mike Chelen
@mindboosternoori Ryanair site uses silverlight: http://www.ryanair.com/site... that's the only website I know that uses it - for this you would need moonlight :)
- Ihar Mahaniok
Flash is needed for the google os to be useful in education. Many education based websites are flash based.
- Willowdale
@Paul "Google is probably paying OEMs to ship with this OS, so instead of paying $x/machine to include windows XP, they will get paid $y/machine to include Chrome." - paying present tense, already? Isn't it enough for OEMs not to have to pay hefty licenses to Redmond, etc., while being able to ship with a free, stable OS+browser combo; they need to be paid to do that as well?
- ianf ⌘
I sure hope so. I think the wide array of JavaScript libraries have been killing Flash for years. Silverlight was never really a player. The only think keeping Flash afloat is video
- Scott Radcliff
I don't know what's under the hood of Silverlight (nobody knows), but Flash is basically a sprite engine controlled by Actionscript, which is basically an adapted version of Javascript anyway. It's nicely packaged though, and has an army of developers, so it won't go away that easily, at least not until there are Flash-to-Canvas/ HTML5 porting tools/ translators and the like.
- ianf ⌘
to follow that logic...photoshop is needed as well
- Chris Hofmann
somebody call me when http://playboyarchive.com is working in Chrome OS (it's currently implemented in Silverlight)
- Karim
If it gains any traction at all, MS will just make Silverlight version that will run on Google OS. Sure google could block it, but they haven't done so with the Chrome browser.
- Jeff Weber
Interesting. I doubt the Google OS will get that big anytime soon though.
- Scott Radcliff
from email
Silverlight doesn't have a chance now...I wonder what would Adobe Air do.
- Saad Kamal
not really, if google want to be open then they will need a plugin architecture for it and then MS could just port for it. I really don't see this troubling mainstream users any time soon.
- Darren Stuart
Though I agree with the view that MS monopoly may erode as alternative devices get adoption over PC/Notebook, and these devices will mostly run on open source OS, but it may take years to create a significant change in every day usage of normal users. In the end, OS choice is mostly done by manufacturers, and they would be happy to get paid by open source vendors for putting their OS on...
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- Kaan Bingol
People want media. Hulu, Netflix, Kindle, iTunes, etc. They need to address that or they are DOA.
- Hayes Haugen
Hayes, what makes you think it will lack media support?
- Paul Buchheit
I don't think it will lack licensed media support but what deals they are able to make will be crucial.
- Hayes Haugen
Hayes, i thought you were going to say that Netflix was using Silverlight. ;-)
- Karim
Yes, they are, what is their deal with MSFT? Can they do non Silverlight distribution?
- Hayes Haugen
i believe the Netflix non-Silverlight distribution is a format called "DVD" that works over the "Snail Mail" protocol. ;-) but clearly if Google is paying OEMs to install Chrome OS, they can pay Netflix to go back to Flash which Chrome OS will probably support "by necessity" ;-)
- Karim
How can Google make money from Chrome OS? Or does it want to make money from it except through advertisement? I still can not imagine that all software and service are free and sponsored by advertisements.
- Derek Wei
All Chrome OS questions are answered by today's Fake Steve Jobs ;)
- Hayes Haugen
Is there a need to make money? If more and more people eschew desktop offline applications in favor of online web based apps, it means more pageviews, more eyeballs, more advertising inventory, plus has the side effect of undermining a big competitor's cash cow.
- Ray Cromwell
That's the key, Google wants everything online. They figure the more people online, the stronger they become, and the more money they make. At least that what was said at the Chrome launch.
- Scott Radcliff
from email
I'm amused that the "backwards compatibility" argument against alternative operating systems has slowly turned into "does it support flash", and when you unpack that it really means "does it play YouTube". I suspect Google will make sure ChromeOS cna play YouTube and they don't need Flash to make sure of it.
- Nick Lothian
Is it possible that Microsoft will write Office for the Web using Volta instead of Silverlight? Could be a showcase announcement for their attack on GWT
- Ray Cromwell
I think Microsoft is going to focus less on the front-end of the web and more on the back-end, middle tier and database sides. Azure is a big deal that consumers aren't talking about because it's not flashy but will be pretty important to developers (and especially enterprise-level applications) when it's finally ready because everything becomes an interface to the cloud. Microsoft is...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Azure looks really cool. Hint: so did Blackbird.
- Michael R. Bernstein
lol blackbird (scary redmond flashback) - a good example of azure platform utilization can be seen via jon udell's elmcity project - http://blog.jonudell.net/elmcity...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Nosense, I want silverlight, flash, html and any other technology in my desktop & mobile phone. Silverlight? yes, there you can develop under Python, Ruby et al, instead of the outdated javascript.
- Sebastian Wain
It looks like with Native Client, you should be able to write your Chrome OS app in any language you feel like. So far, they have some examples in C/C++, but one of the things they ported is a Lua interpreter. If Adobe isn't going to invest heavily in fixing the show-stopping bugs on non-Windows versions of Flash, it's inevitably going to die, and there's really nothing either Google or Apple can do even if they wanted to support Flash better.
- Victor Ganata
...ActionScript3 is ECMASCript-compliant. I know nothing about standards bodies, and shii like that, but what if Adobe dropped ActionScript and said, "You can now use pure Javascript to build Flash applications..." It wouldn't be a big leap. I'm pretty sure that would shut-up all the Flash haters. And to the folks who say Flash is hanging around just because of video...well, video is...
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- .LAG liked that
Actionscript is just the glue for the more advanced what-iffy graphic functionality of Flash. They can not drop it for Javascript, because it contains additional graphic primitives that JS lacks. But it's not the JS-or-Actionscript that makes it a target for hate, it's other things. Nobody denies that it's pretty capable, but it is also badly written, eats up memory like no other, makes...
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- ianf ⌘
I like this post!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
I honestly don't know how necessary Flash is. Apple seems to be doing fine without supporting it. But certainly Gnash and Swfdec should be implementable on Chrome OS. The fact is that without Adobe's full support on a given platform, Flash apps will always be second class citizens on alternate platforms, and so far, there's no indication that Adobe is interested in fully supporting any platform other than Windows.
- Victor Ganata
ianf ...you bring up great points about Flash's detriments, as does Victor, but until there's a better way to bring video to the Web, I can't see it disappearing. Adobe seems to keep improving the Flash VM, hopefully they'll address those CPU-hogging issues and make a more efficent runtime. Yeah, I hate hearing the fans kick-in when visiting a Flash-heavy site too. <sigh>
- .LAG liked that
alternative to flash video such as ... html5 :) (requires ff3.5) http://www.dailymotion.com/openvid...
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Ed, only??? thats one of the main reasons cited for the continued requirement of flash on popular sites like youtube
- Mike Chelen
Ed, those other uses can be accomplished through pure Javascript, video was the last remaining stumbling block
- Mike Chelen
Still waiting on non-Flash recreations of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Well aware of how someone mentioned higher up how you can combine javascript and svg to get nifty flash-like effects. I want apps like that though ^ Only real alternatives I've seen are Java-based ones, and those runs even slower than Flash.
- Ed F
Pardon me, but the OP is a ridiculous conclusion. For that to be the case, Chrome OS would have to kill Windows, OS X, etc altogether. Paul, I understand your viewpoint as being an ex-Google person, but that's just NOT going to happen. Right now the video specification from HTML5 has been dropped because of an impasse, meaning that we may be transitioning from 1 closed-source boss - Flash - to another - H264. Good luck.
- LANjackal
But why do these type of apps have to be written in Flash at all? You can easily do the same thing in C, C++, ObjC, Python, Ruby, etc., with the Native Client API that they're building for Chrome. http://code.google.com/p...
- Victor Ganata
I'm just saying, it's not like Flash is the end-all/be-all. As Apple well demonstrates, some people can live quite well without it.
- Victor Ganata
Victor ...i think the answer to the 'why do these have to be written in Flash at all' question is because Flash is installed on such a significant portion of Web browsers. But I recall that Adobe Flex had a competitor, Laszlo/OpenLaszlo, which compiled apps to SWF or to Javascript. Who's to say that Adobe doesn't have the same capability of making SWF apps into JS ones? On one hand, it...
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- .LAG liked that
Ed, such apps are possible with Javascript and HTML5 multimedia features, the question will be how difficult developers find it, and whether the performance is fast enough
- Mike Chelen
LANjackal, there is a question of degree in that Flash + H264 uses proprietary software and codec, while HTML5 + H264 requires only the codec. while OGV is no longer part of the spec, it can certainly still be used to have completely open video formats, and recent comparisons have shown it performs well http://people.xiph.org/~maikme...
- Mike Chelen
Silverlight's 3 is looking pretty impressive today but tend to agree
- Charlie Anzman
What everybody seems to be missing about Flash is that it works because there is one implementation which is mostly backwards-compatible and the same across platforms. It beat Java because, among other reasons, Java just didn't work the same across JVMs and platforms. The problem with HTML5 is that it will have a different implementation for every browser, and that means your app/game...
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- Gabe
Paul, don't you prefer brutal competition SL vs. Flash vs. standards bring to the table by definition? Or are you more into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - 2020 Google Union - type of ideology?
- Kari Honkanen
Kari, I don't understand your question. Competition is good, but with open-source we get that -- no need for flash or SL.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, no, we don't get the same level of competition with open-source only. As long as there's an opportunity for big gains (like in this case to bridge the gap before html 5 era...to satisfy demand), there will be innovations driven by that. I believe we all benefit from a free market economy that includes commercial, closed source, innovations. I am more scared of the possible future...
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- Kari Honkanen
I wouldn't worry too much amount multimedia. By exposing WebGL, (and hopefully OpenCL), you can offload a lot of compute intensive stuff onto the GPU via GPGPU techniques, and NativeClient is there to take up the rest of the slack, but the for the vast majority of iPhone-like games, I'm willing to bet V8 Javascript on a modern processor is more than enough. That leaves licensing issues...
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- Ray Cromwell
Paul, so are you saying that Google will block both Flash and Silverlight from ChromeOS? That's a new take on 'open.'
- Cliff Gerrish
MSFT next smart move: get Chrome OS (it's BSD licensed), inject IE9 and Silverlight into it and go benchmark against Chrome :)
- Claudio Cicali ♋
MSFT sucks Claudio :)
- Orlando Pozo
Something feels contradictory about a system touted to 'kill' competitors being 'open'. Sounds almost predatory to me.
- Karoli
I'm not opposed to non-open software, but for OS, browser, etc I prefer that it be open. Cliff, Google isn't going to "block" anything, but they can certainly choose what to include, and my guess is that they won't include SL. As Claudio points out, MSFT can make their own version of ChromeOS that includes SL, which is why open source software is nice (it can't be crippled too much or else someone will fork it).
- Paul Buchheit
I have heard somewhere that Fash uses it's own port where Silverlight works over the HTTP port. That's why Netflix works so well. To that, Flash costs more on a sever side because providers can charge more for that port traffic. Could it come down to who is cheaper? (I am fully prepared to be wrong).
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny, they both use HTTP -- there's no difference there.
- Paul Buchheit
Is Chrome OS BSD-licensed? I thought it was using a Linux kernel.
- Victor Ganata
@Paul - well, Flash can do P2P stuff over non-HTTP posts, but that is very new (Flash 10 I think). The cost isn't affected anyway.
- Nick Lothian
My understanding is that netbooks would have to be absurdly popular for Chrome OS to make a dent in the popularity of Flash or SL.
- Gabe
it is possible to have smaller groups for open source software, such as google's own gears api http://code.google.com/apis...
- Mike Chelen
How is HTML 5 going to defeat Flash and SL? I haven't used it, but I don't see anything in the spec that looks like it could compare.
- Gabe
@Gabe - what do you think HTML5 is missing? It does video, drawing, local storage, "threading" via WebWorkers. The biggest hole I'm aware of is the lack of access to webcams & microphones. What have I missed?
- Nick Lothian
Nick: When you say HTML 5 has "drawing", are you refering to the Canvas element? I would not consider an immediate-mode procedural raster drawing library to be much of a competitor to retained-mode declarative vector libraries like SVG or Silverlight. Programming with the Canvas tag is sort of the equivalent of programming in assembly language for bitmaps.
- Gabe
@Gabe: I think you've got it upside-down. A Canvas-style API is the fundamental basis on which you can build a retained mode structure like SVG, et al. If a platform includes a retained-mode library as a convenience, so be it. You can build SVG on Canvas, but not the other way around (hacks like IECanvas notwithstanding -- they have horrible performance characteristics and are a nasty abstraction inversion).
- Joel Webber
So, if Moonlight (Mono) runs on linux -- Will google make sure it doesn't work on Chrome OS?
- Cliff Gerrish
Joel: I don't think you said anything contrary to what I said. I just don't understand why any programmer would want to waste time writing an app using a low-level library when I could use a high-level library that implements everything for me.
- Gabe
@Gabe - I agree, and people are implementing those libraries now. See http://raphaeljs.com/ for example. Also, don't underestimate the convenience factor. I don't own any Flash development tools, but my text editor works pretty well for Canvas+JS based stuff.
- Nick Lothian
Nick: Didn't the author of raphael have some massive rant about how bad the Canvas element is? And I don't have any Flash dev tools either, but I use a text editor for most of my Silverlight development. It is incredibly convenient to be able to type something like <DataGrid ItemsSource="{Binding tabledata}"/> into a text editor and not have to create the data grid myself.
- Gabe
Why is Flash a "necessity" for an OS? I enjoy what flash can do, but it is like putting pimped out leather Oldsmobile seats in a Ferrari. It would definitely be nice, but certainly not a necessity.
- Dan Douglass
Early post goof up. To your original point, I agree. I like how Google is approaching the internet space with web apps that can be run with out a bloated browser.
- Dan Douglass
Dan Douglass: Flash is necessary because so many web sites rely on it. How many people would want to get a netbook that couldn't play FaceBook games or watch YouTube videos? Of course Google is in the unique position of being able to make YouTube work on ChromeOS without Flash, but they probably can't do anything about Hulu, Vimeo, or any of the other video sites out there that require Flash.
- Gabe
Anyone else think Joy is Spam?
- Chris Myles
already reported it yesterday :)
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
I love it when people with 699 followers, like @MWEB1, say that no one uses FriendFeed. Totally wrong.
Baard @ Pixum, David Cook, Jason Huebel and 23 other people liked this
There are certainly a lot of people using FriendFeed but compared to Facebook as suspect it's 'low'. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The funny thing is that I got a reaction here first.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Hehe, proves a point? ;-0
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert : Just ignore him. I think he is new chick in a town
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Just having some fun!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
While I'm here, I liked to article about 'unproductive' email and Google Wave btw, Robert.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks. I will answer your points in the morning.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert et al, Friendfeed sucks ass because none of my friends use it. Simple as that. Personally I love ff and think that its model is worth copying by fb and others. But I realized this week when non-nerds asked me to download Ping (which surprisingly I never heard of), that it doesn't matter how good the business model is or user exp is, but adoption rate matters. FB serves a great...
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- Ben Nash
50,000 nobodies here. Have a good one!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I've got over 1000 followers on Twitter, and I use FriendFeed. A lot. Even though only 230 or so subscribe to me on FF...
- Dennis Jernberg
50,000 who? huh? I don't know any of them? My point is you can't defend low adoption rates. You can't!
- Ben Nash
Ben have you tried inviting your friends and showing them why you like it?
- Jimminy Fuller
Of course I have, but non-nerds don't get it. I have more friends than nerds. :)
- Ben Nash
FYI I'm a nerd
- Ben Nash
I have to agree with Ben. I love Friendfeed but none of my friends; even after repeatedly trying to get them interested, consistently use FF. However, that hasn't stopped me from using FF as it is still a lot more flexible, resourceful than FB and Twitter.
- Amar Shah
I had only one friend on FriendFeed before I joined (and he doesn't use it much) now I have nearly 3,000 subscribers and a whole bunch of new friends. It takes time but you can make new friends here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I've got a similar amount of followers on Twitter but I suspect a lot of them are bots and interaction with them is minute compared to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
Different platform serves different purpose. Like FF for real time chat, facebook for friends etc. And different people like different platform. its just a matter of choice.
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
And I'm still confused about fb's purchase of ff. I sadly think that ff will go away before my non-nerd friends understand it.
- Ben Nash
oh and Scoble your belittling of someone with "only" 699 followers only shows how arrogant a nerd can become. See ya on another network someday. Hopefully I'll have enough followers to make you appreciate little old me.
- Ben Nash
Ben: it is arrogant for you two to say a service has no users when the opposite is true. You are NOT credible on this issue and if saying so is arrogant than fine.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Adoption rates! Simple as that. That's my credibility/argument. And I never said that there are no users on ff, just not my non-nerd friends. THEY ARE IMPORTANT. and I keep getting a ff server error message. huh is this the typical experience of a ff conversation? server errors
- Ben Nash
FF is only used by uber-geeks, simple as, "normobs" still vastly prefer sticking to Facebook and Twitter, most of my contacts are "real people", so FF gives me nothing extra.
- mark w webster
thanks mark
- Ben Nash
Mark: So why are you here ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Mark: you are wrong. Look at my 50,000 followers here. They are not all geeks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
As I've already stated I love ff. BUT IT SUCKS that none of my non-nerd real world friends are on here
- Ben Nash
because i clicked your link, and hey presto, it brought me here :)
- mark w webster
BREAKING NEWS: Friendfeed is only used ny Robert Scoble. No one else matters.
- Ben Nash
Oh and how did I find you two? On Twitter which only has 40 million users out of seven billion people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: you just called 50,000 people nobodies.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: and you call +me+ arrogant?!? You are something else.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Well Robert, you called 699 people nobodies first :)
- mark w webster
No I didn't liar.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I never belittled anyone
- Ben Nash
You just belittled 50,000 people!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW
- Ben Nash
Wow right.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ah, my theory always proves rights, New chicks and here habit to contradict anything get attraction toward them. [BREAK NEW] Ben, It will not increase your twitter followers
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
try to remain civil Robert, you have a large following
- mark w webster
You just called them nobodies so leave civility out of this
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ah! Robert is right! :P Leave....
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
of course he is
- Ben Nash
Yes, Robert is right
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
he's infallable, bit like the pope :)
- mark w webster
I don't know why I argue with people who say untrue things and have no credibilty to boot.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But it is more fun than changing diapers
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
+1 Robert
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
very true Robert, congrats on that personal note, and as you say, have a nice day.
- mark w webster
? does 50,000 followers = credibility
- Ben Nash
No. Not saying things that are wrong like what Mark said is how you gain credibility. Followers show up after that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben & Robert, neither of you called anyone nobodies, Ben just offhandedly trashed us by saying FF sucks ass and we're the only ones who use it. The service was still growing when the acquisition happened, and you have to remember all services start small, FF is 1/2-1/4 the size of Twitter 2 years in but that doesn't mean it couldn't have grown out. Twitter wasn't widely accepted originally either, it was all geeks and nerds.
- Jimminy Fuller
I'm only saying I wish more friends used ff. I LOVE FF
- Ben Nash
I'd also disagree it's nerds only here, there are lots of non-tech types on FF, they make the place more interesting.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome, Mark just called me an uber-geek!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
And thanks to all this kerfuffle, my twitter followership is rocketing up, cheers Robert :)
- mark w webster
Jimminy: I have gotten 10% of my followers AFTER Facebook bought FriendFeed!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Mark: that happens anytime I link to anyone. Why? Spammers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, sure I saw the surge also, but alot of people walked away from the community as well, whether it be partially or completely. One of those people was you, I'm glad to see you defending it of course.
- Jimminy Fuller
So Robert, does that mean: more followers = credibility = more spammers ?
- Ben Nash
Twitter has a LOT of spammers. Theydont show up here.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
so credibility is only achievable on ff?
- Ben Nash
I just started following Mark, I'm no spammer.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I never walked away. I have been here every day.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: you have no credibilty here either.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And i'm grateful Willem, also to the rest of you who contributed here :)
- mark w webster
Why does this remind me of a 'behind the scenes' view of some Miss election?
- Irma Vermaat
Willem of course some out of 100,000 will follow if I link to someone new.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I know you didn't walk away, I'm kind of tired been since Friday, and it's 5:30, and it came out wrong. But you aren't here as often, though I have seen you coming back more often than right after the acquisition.
- Jimminy Fuller
I dont seek, or give credibility Robert, my comment was born out of MY experience, your's is different, i'm happy to respect that.
- mark w webster
If nothing else, FF is also a decent twitter client ;)
- Alexandros Georgiadis
HAHAHAHAHA, what did i do? this is crazy, I only pointed out that I have no non-nerd friends on ff and I wish that wasn't the case. I also stated that you are arrogant for equating followers with credibility. I didn't ask for a credibility rating.
- Ben Nash
Ben: when you say there aren't users here or that I am the only one it not only is wrong but it demonstrates you just don't know what you are talking about.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: there is a reason I have lots of friends. I tend to be arrogantly right.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And sorry numbers of followers DOES confir credibilty when discussing usage patterns.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW dude, wow. you are so arrogant. Unbelievable really. And you are not getting my very simple point? Keep digging your grave with your high and mighty jabs, you'll need a deep one for that ego.
- Ben Nash
Robert: Try linking to me @wim66 I'd like to see how many followers that would bring me and how many spammers.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
kinda shot yourself in the foot there Robert, what i write on various forums and sites i control gets read by a million members every day, if you want to play the numbers game.
- mark w webster
And to the rest of the world, please keep in mind that even Glen Beck has more that 50,000 fans. And that doesn't mean he's credible.
- Ben Nash
ROBERT = SPAM i guess
- Ben Nash
I could get a lot of followers by following a lot of people myself. Does that make me more credible?
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Mark: I don't believe your numbers. If you had them they would follow you to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Ben Nash
I think Robert is drunk at 2:37am
- Ben Nash
I wish.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Changed three diapers since this thread started.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I dont push social media anywhere i go, in the UK were a bit behind you in that respect, it's true.
- mark w webster
And what about your children's? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mark: another thing you got wrong. UK is home to some of the best Twitter developers and biggest Twitter community. The guy who built TweetDeck is from UK.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
See this is how you earn credibility: by know what you are talking about.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Twitter's CEO told me that London has a larger usage base than SF.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I can believe that.
- Kol Tregaskes
SF population is only 800k
- Ben Nash
Ben: percentage wise too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But hen define London. Central or Greater London?
- Kol Tregaskes
And one of Twitter's investors comes from UK too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, seriously stop the fights. Mark only said that UK was "behind" on the social media front. I think most of the world will agree on that. Your 50,000 person following, and CEO talks don't change a thing.
- Ben Nash
As for ego it takes a huge ego to tell someone else their ego is out of control so welcome to the club.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Of course your right Robert, but in all these matters were always a few steps behind you guys, well, i gotta go to Asda (Wallmart) so i'll bid you guy's goodnight :)
- mark w webster
Seeya!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, you started it with your belittling of 699 followers, good night
- Ben Nash
And I'm quite happy with my 283 followers. Very happy. 50,000 mean nothing to me.
- Ben Nash
Ben: no you are wrong again. This is really a pattern with you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
Mark started this by calling 50,000 followers "miniscule." since he only has 700 that is wrong.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
The End. Goodnite ladies (Ben and mark)
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
My challenge to anyone who says followers don't mean anything: delete your account then.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Told ya Robert they are just new chick in a town, just craving for attention
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
You'd hope that more followers means more interaction so that can't be meaningless. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Sunny: yeah.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'm not new to ff or twitter, but increasing followers is not my goal. It doesn't have to be.
- Ben Nash
Ben: I am going to block you so you won't have another follower. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
like i said, not a goal
- Ben Nash
For a guy who tries to keep the world safe from my ego you sure talk a lot.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
? huh ?
- Ben Nash
Surely any social network is as good as what you make it. If your friends are not on it you are not influential enough. I am not influential enough but that is my fault.
- Matt G
Exactly. You are good at dishing it out but bad at looking in the mirror.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Matt: you're my friend and I follow you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert: Some wise man once said: "You are defined by the people you follow, not the other way around" :)
- Jemm
Robert, just go back and read my original reply. I think my points still stand. Good night everyone.
- Ben Nash
Thanks Robert. :)
- Matt G
Ben and your original reply DID NOT demonstrate an even basic understanding of why Mark was wrong. We weren't talking about your friends. Thanks for playing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jemm: I follow you so that guy must have been right!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
:-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert: He usually is ;)
- Jemm
as compared to twitter...it should have been an upgrade of twitter but people love twitter for it's simplicity
- testbeta
The main point: Friendfeed is still flatlining on Compete.com, as is Feedly. Sometimes the best software out there is just too far ahead of its time for the unwashed masses to appreciate.
- Sean McBride
(Sean. feedly is actually growing fine. The reason you are not seeing that growth on compete.com is that feedly is an extension and all the pages are produced in real-time directly from the extension).
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Maybe it depends on what kind of friends you desire. Are your friends sheep who only use something after the fad hits the media? Or are they intelligent folks who prefer to communicate with other thinkers?
- Internet Strategist
Edwin -- thanks for the correction.
- Sean McBride
What is this "#fb" tag is see in so many Tweets now?
Mitch, Bruce Lewis, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF and 5 other people liked this
its an facebook app, selective tweets get pushed to facebook
- sean percival
http://apps.facebook.com/selecti... will update your Facebook status if your Twitter status update contains #fb.
- Tudor Bosman
Selective tweets, which you need them as facebook status... there is an app for it on facebook! :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Facebook could just get over this by allowing users to associate their Twitter account in Facebook and selectively post to Twitter (like SocialToo is doing right now via our SocialToo Status: http://apps.facebook.com/socialt...). I'd love to have access to this via the API if you do it though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: The problem is that that is backwards. Nobody wants to selectively post to Twitter from Facebook. They want to selectively post to Facebook from Twitter. I update my FB status once every few days, max. I update Twitter maybe 10 times a day. Sometimes I want to update both, but I don't want to do it from FB, I want to do it from Twitter. The Selective Twitter Status app on Facebook does this perfectly. Just associate, then add #fb when you want to update both. It works, it's simple, it's effective.
- Otto
Otto, yes, that is your opinion - I have my own numbers that support my claim.
- Jesse Stay
As much as it pains me to say it, Otto is right. Selective Twitter does exactly what people want to do, and how they use the services. There's no reason to go in the other direction, and it's folly to try to push things in the wrong direction.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, yes, that is your opinion - I have my own numbers that support my claim.
- Jesse Stay
If only I could selectively post my friendfeed to facebook, instead of the all or nothing setting now.
- Christian Burns
Christian, you do, if you use the Selective Twitter Ap, then you just have to check the "post to twitter" box, and add the post to facebook tag.
- Matthew DeVries
Testing selective Friendfeed posting to Twitter and then to facebook now #fb
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Selective Twitter Status has 31,879 monthly active users. I'd say those numbers are pretty darned good, Jesse.
- Otto
It reminds of the South Park ep where everyone started sitting on their food and spitting out poo. Just let things run in their natural direction.
- Matthew DeVries
What I want is to post links from ff to fb but not every single Twitter update,
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I've always wondered this myself
- Mitch
My first tweet from within Google Wave. Thanks Tweety the Tweet Bot! tweety-wave@appspot.com
alex chan, David Glah, Eric Geller and 4 other people liked this
So jealous. They seem to have lost my invite request :(
- Bob
The Internet is has turned into the Haves and the Have nots
- Randy Pollock
I wish i could like comments, bec i would for randy . Here is a +1 . Btw its like gmail all over again, those that got in early vs those asking for invites ( i remember ppl making some money of those 3 early invites )
- Kashif Khan
I've been using Pygowave and still need convincing that this is something I should care about.
- Fleagle
Hey! Enjoying it? It's really world changing thing. :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
looks good I'm jealous, no wave invite for me yet. I do have Google voice though so I guess not too much to complain about
- Lillian Banchik
from IM
So true, Randy. Sadly, I am not one of the cool kids. I'm hoping nepotism will get me somewhere, but I don't think my brother reads his emails. If anyone wants to nominate me, bring it on! firstname.lastname@gmail.com [not literally - do the math].
- Laura Norvig
No wave here hay got all the other social stuff Twitter FF most of the people I know have no Idea about any of it tough being a 57 year old techie so to most of us this is just more junk that has no meaning....
- milesg
Good work
- Shahil
id love to get an invite
- Sebastian
Well done sir. Nice new profile pic btw.
- Jerry Perez
I HAZ GOOGLE WAVE! #w00t! It's like Xmas over here. :D
Mitchell Tsai, Allen Conquest, kami and 66 other people liked this
Photoshopped! Seriously, congrats AJ! You deserve it :)
- directeur
Hahaha!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Congrats!
- A D Williams
Ossum! I'm ericajoybaker@googlewave.com :)
- EricaJoy
Here's me -> ajbatac@googlewave.com :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
WHERE'S MINE??
- Chrimmus Tad
Gah!!! Congrats!! *hits refresh on his gmail account many, many times*
- Jim Addz No Value
ericloganvanman@googlewave.com
- Eric Logan
Do you get any invites?
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
from iPhone
Congratulations! (He said, somewhat grudgingly...)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
The invite thing is a nomination... I've nominated some friends and I have a few more. 1st come 1st served. It starts now...
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Brad, sent you one.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
@AJ You. Are. A. GOD. If I can every figure out a way to repay ya, I definitely will ;-)
- Brad Williamson
A minion Brad. Minion. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Burakb at gmail!
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
from iPhone
Brad, just sing "Ken Lee" for him, he lurbs it :)
- directeur
Burakb, sent.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Holden, sent.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
congrats!
- michael sean wright
AJ, I'd ask for one but if I can ever get my sandbox password working, I probably have an invite sitting there. Totally frustrating.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That's awesome! Thanks AJ! :)
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
from iPhone
Akiva, email?
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
nice!
- .LAG liked that
I got 3 more. LAST THREE!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I'm refreshing like crazy too, Holden!
- Brad Williamson
Erica, sent.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
nathan.chase@gmail.com - thanks in advance!
- Nathan Chase
Nathan, sent.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
thomaspower43@gmail.com if you have a spare
- Thomas Power
Last one...
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
jasonw22 @ gmail
- Jason Wehmhoener
Man, I keep feverishly refreshing looking for an invite. Crap...missed out rah [at] sheenonline.biz
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Thomas got the last one. Sorry guys. :( No moar.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
awesome AJ - thanks! Much appreciated... really looking forward to checking it out!
- Nathan Chase
google doesn't care about me...
- Michael Hannah
To those who I nominated. It's not an instant thing.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I have nominated you then google will put you on queue. But you have been guaranteed a spot.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
You got it, Holden?
- Brad Williamson
iDrool :-)
- Majento
There are no guarantees in life except death.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm not even real sure WHY i'm so excited, but I sure am! Damn, Google knows how to build some cryptic buzz! I mean... I get the gist of it, but there are still so many unknowns...
- Brad Williamson
hey thanks AJ you're a Star
- Thomas Power
Nothing received AJ did you send it? thomaspower43@gmail.com or thomas.power@ecademy.com
- Thomas Power
tedroden @ gmail if you have extras (!)
- Ted Roden
mwittman [a][t] gmail[.]com por favor :)
- Micah Wittman
So what's it like?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Aw shucks, nothing here yet
- Pete Gilbert
Chris, it's like Email on steriods x 100. Real-time. You see your wave's contact typing the message to you! It's CRAZY!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I don't know if I like other people being able to see what I'm saying in real-time. How are you adjusting with that?
- Brad Williamson
Congrats, must feel good to be one of the chosen few
- Tate DA FF MVP
from iPod
It's ok... I type real fast and I can delete words fast too. whooosh!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
darius.mdev atsign gmail.com If you got a spare :)
- Matthew DeVries
Relax folks! AJ got an invite because his name starts with an "A", people like "H"olden will have to wait till, say, next year?
- directeur
hey congrats AJ
- (jeff)isageek
if you have any invites feel free to send me one :)
- (jeff)isageek
jeffisageek at gmail dot com
- (jeff)isageek
Oddly, I haven't yet received mine? #RemainsDelusionallyHopeful
- Mark "DerBingle" J
NO! aw man. Can the nominees nominate others in turn? Can this get exponential? You are man of the day now, AJ...
- Kamilah Gill
Hi Kamilah, yeah I think this can get exponential. **hoping**
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
ZOMG I JUST TRIED TO GET INTO WAVE AND SOMETHING NEW IS HAPPENING O_O
- Kamilah Gill
Congrats AJ!
- James Stratford
Guys, I have no more invites but when I get some I'll ask you all again if you want one. WAVE is so COOL! It has some getting used to but the playback solves it quickly.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
omg!
- Rob Schonberger
! How did robsc get here?!
- EricaJoy
Nice "blip"n with you on the Goog AJ ... don.bonaddio@googlewave.com
- Don Bonaddio
You get to see what your contact is typing while he or she is typing? ICQ had that 15 years ago. What else does it do?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
NOOO. False alarm :(
- Kamilah Gill
I wouldn't mind being queued, btw. My first name at coldacid.net, thx.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
OMG OMG Google Wave Developers are in this thread! #TOTALWIN
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I wonder if a nomination is another way of saying invite. Congrat's and it sounds great!
- Michael Fidler
from BuddyFeed
Very cool. I hope to someday get one :)
- joey
Hehe Erica, must be the name. It starts with "A" ;) Just like directeur said, Holden might also get it... Next year. :P
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I wonder when will "Z"ee get his? :DD
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Anybody have any goodness to spare? I'm ksheppardson you know where. They told me at one point I was in line for a sandbox invite that never materialized... Sigh....
- Ken Sheppardson
You'll be on my list Ken when I get more.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Thanks, AJ. I'm resisting the urge to just start badmouthing/bashing Wave as a failure out of frustration over not yet having been able to use it... ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, do it like this -> http://twitter.com/ajbatac... they'll notice. ;-)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
That was 10 hours ago. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
"After filling in this form, you should receive a mail with your account details within a few days. Hope to see you on Google Wave soon,"... that was 59 days ago. :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
Lucky!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Is it everything you dreamed of? ;-)
- Grant Bierman
We'll see. I think it's too early for its time. 90% of my friends may not know what to do with it. Then again, I'm an early adopter. It might just be me imagining things again.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
haha, so true of most folks isn't it?! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Congrats, AJ!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Thanks Mahendra. Lucky me, my name starts with "A" :D
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Lucky!!!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Gah, want!!
- Glenn Slaven
Wow, I forgot about email invites. (Guess I'm already in the Wave mindset.) I was just checking the home page, where it says "Your Google Account has not yet been activated for Google Wave.".
- Raphael, Raphael
Nooooooooooooooooo! That means I have only 99,999 changes left! :(.... (just kidding, congrats!)
- Danny Minick
still nothing received AJ?
- Thomas Power
It will come... there are people ahead... so... ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Can you invite me sir? Thanks :D
- Lysender
Ly, when I get more I'll have you on the list. ;-)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
gattoo at gmail dot com
- Nitin Nanivadekar
sorry but i am tired of begging for invite. but do beggers have a chice?
- Nitin Nanivadekar
Yay!
- Tyson Key
Nice one, AJ! Nothing for me, gutted. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
OK thanks AJ will post here when it arrives
- Thomas Power
Vijay has just invited me and I got an invite straight-away. Thank you,. Vijay! :-D I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com
- Kol Tregaskes
I"m still hoping for an invite Curioustux at gmail.com
- CuriousTux
WTF. I thought sandbox accounts were guaranteed entry.
- Raphael, Raphael
If you want an invite post here: http://ff.im/91M9R and add you Wave addy here: http://ff.im/91NZC
- Kol Tregaskes
So do the people who receive invites have invites to give?
- Brad Williamson
Yes. Wait... Hold on. They're called nominations. If you've been nominated multiple times you get up pretty quickly. I think it's not like the Gmail invites that gets out instantly.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Judy, added you. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Please, can you please invite me. Thanks :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
INvite me plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
AJ invite me too: mthwsnd01@gmail.com
- Ned Garcia-Mathews
Well, if you have one left laying around... jason (dot) a (dot) castillo at the gmail ;)
- JA Castillo
JA, will add you to my list of nominations on the next round.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Wow, thank you, AJ! :)
- JA Castillo
Awesome!!! This is so exciting. I'd love to be added to your list. You have my gmail addy from google reader don't you?
- Carmen
Carmen, I do? :D j/k...
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
:P
- Carmen
what is it .. I have been in Northern Ontario since Monday ... feel like a fool asking
- johnpiercy
Just got my Google Wave invite. Thanks again, AJ!
- Nathan Chase
Cool! Welcome.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
from IM
AJ thank you so much my invite just arrived, you have jumped up hugely in my FFriend Ratings. Thank you once again.
- Thomas Power
If you have a spare invite I'd love to join the Wave. Thanks.
- Allen Conquest
from iPhone
Please invite me to join :D
- Peerapong Pulpipatnan
Should Facebook Remove Subject Lines from Messages? - http://mashable.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Jason A. Samfield, Diego Barros and 72 other people liked this
I tried to remove the subject in Gmail, but people revolted. I really like that FriendFeed (and Twitter) don't have a subject -- it's just a message.
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
If there's no subject line, how will I know to ignore the message?
- pea
How do you know on FriendFeed?
- Paul Buchheit
I think email would be better if they removed the body instead of the subject.
- Jim Norris
On FF, there's a high assumption that the message I'll get is wanted because only people I sub to can message me. That's not the case with email. Sorry, you were talking about FB. Got derailed by the Gmail comment. I'd be okay with no Subject line in FB messages.
- pea
well, I can guess what's spam on gmail by the subject line. Since I never got spam on facebook's inbox... that could take things right to the point.
- Caio
Friendfeed removes the body from most messages, so you have to do the 'write a comment on your own message' trick to put it in
- Kevin Marks
That's a good point Kevin, a lot of people treat the first comment by the author as the subject line.
- Eric Florenzano
Which makes the feed API annoying for longform stuff
- Kevin Marks
People are using "pseudo tagging" on FF with the [something] syntax just to provide the "context" for their message. So, yeah, title is here to stay (where used).
- Claudio Cicali ♋
I tend to delete emails with no subject lines without reading them, since it's usually just one of my friends or family forwarding me some crap (Note: I have filters to remove Re: and Fwd: and similar additions to subject lines). So in that sense, subject lines are necessary if you want me to read what you have to say. I would extend this same concept to the Facebook Inbox as well:...
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- Otto
Hmm.. On a related note, I should just setup an auto-responder for no-subject-line emails. Tell people "no subject, no delivery", and also warn them not to send me their forward spam. Might work.
- Otto
summarize, FTW!
- Claudio Cicali ♋
+1 for Otto's comment.
- Curtiss Grymala
Twitter has just the subject line, no body. ;)
- Amit Patel
It's the other way around Amit, which is why Twitter is better than Atom/RSS (RSS has titles, Twitter is just short messages). See http://friendfeed.com/paul... for an example.
- Paul Buchheit
"Twitter is better than Atom/RSS"?!? - splutters!
- Tim Tyler
it is very useless btw you also have to change the share box to old way.. It is very difficukt when you want to share a message to another user not to your profile
- Atif UNALDI
Instead of no subject, i often send email with no body, or the same in both. only use body when I need long form.
- David Stratton
Twitter and ff exclude the long-form use case. For email, subject lines should at least be an option. I don't use fb enough to comment on their messaging.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
No subject does totally work. Sometimes I really stuck trying to fill Subj form. Just have no idea how to summarize words like ”How d'ya do”. What's the subject here? No fkcng subj needed, for real.
- Кто это тут у нас
Bruce, the solution is to simply make the "subject" a part of the body, so that there is a smooth transition.
- Paul Buchheit
If there's one general problem I have with Gmail, it's the institutional attitude that they know what's best for the user. e.g. "You don't need to be able to sort by columns." I'm thankful they didn't let you dump the subject, Paul.
- Ken Sheppardson
How do you get users to do that? People don't naturally start long-form messages with concise summaries. Not that a subject line nails this problem, but at least you can prompt the user if it's blank.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
People don't write concise summaries anyway Bruce :). Ken, sorting by something other than date in nonsensical in a conversational context.
- Paul Buchheit
Facebook having a proprietary system that mostly competes with email, but is mostly incompatible with it is kind-of feeble.
- Tim Tyler
Paul: Perhaps, but people aren't always operating in a "conversational context" when they're dealing with email. For something as flexible as email, or messaging systems of any sort, I find it annoying when the system tries to dictate what my workflow and thought processes should look like.
- Ken Sheppardson
Maybe it's a dying use case, but subjects are really great for automated messages that are guaranteed to have a useful subject line. I can scroll through server notices, security advisories, and so on quickly and download the full message if I need to know more. The fact that you can download just the subject line (or rather, the email header) before downloading the entire email is still pretty useful to me.
- Mark Trapp
Ken, I'm referring to the UI. For example, sorting by sender doesn't make sense when there are multiple senders, as is the case in a conversational ui. The ui was designed to solve use-cases, not fill feature checkboxes.
- Paul Buchheit
Also, Gmail wasn't meant to cover all possible use cases. I think it's better to have a product that's very good for many people than mediocre for all people. It has open interfaces (such as IMAP) so that it's easy to use other clients.
- Paul Buchheit
I agree 100% with Ken. I almost always sort my e-mails by date, then subject (in Evolution, I can actually group them by thread, which is really nice). If I just kept all of my e-mails sorted strictly by date and none of them had subjects, I would have no idea which ones were related to each other. It's completely counter-intuitive to remove the subject line from an e-mail. Further,...
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- Curtiss Grymala
It's not meant to cover all use cases, but it's meant to be interoperable, right? If email originating from Gmail is not supplying subject lines (because they're hidden/downplayed/discouraged), but everything else relies on subject lines (like IMAP clients) to weed through the email list, the spirit of interoperability seems to be violated.
- Mark Trapp
I get that, Paul (re use cases vs features) and was just about to mention that I'm thankful for IMAP support, so I can use Thunderbird, Outlook, etc for those instances where my workflow calls for sorting by size; sorting a set of messages with well-formed subjects by subject; using sorting as a quick, visual proxy for search, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Mark, I didn't say that it wouldn't supply a subject line :)
- Paul Buchheit
What would it be? The first n bytes of the message? I guess that could work.
- Mark Trapp
i rarely use the subject line in my email
- andy brudtkuhl
yes
- Christopher Harris
it doesnt mean it is the best way if you use something in a way for a long time. i think no subject for emails is a good approach if you really think on it. it is the change scares us.
- Eren Emre Kanal
from iPhone
People who send me emails without a subject rarely have anything to say that I want to read. If you're too lazy to write a subject, then I'm too lazy to read your ramblings.
- Otto
The business world relies on subject messages for threading and sorting, and I anticipate will do so for some time. I would keep it.
- Louis Gray
Doesn't anybody ever take any business communications classes/training any more? Email without subjects lines is like a meeting without an agenda. Oh, and get off my lawn. Humbug.
- Ken Sheppardson
a direct message? no subject line. an email-like message? subject line for sure.
- Jim Addz No Value
This is why ultimately we may need to abandon email. It's broken in many ways, but difficult to change.
- Paul Buchheit
If by "broken" you mean "people don't take the time to learn how to use it effectively", I agree. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
For something meant to be so essential to communication, it shouldn't take time to use effectively: it should be a natural extension of what we do. If we're relying on everyone to use it correctly, that's not very efficient.
- Mark Trapp
ya i dont no why anybody wood half to lern how to do stuff it shuld all be natural
- Ken Sheppardson
Is it the norm to expect everyone to be bilingual? Why not expect electronic communication media to be an extension of the one form of communication that we all spend years to master? Why is it necessary to have to spend another large tract of time to learn another form of communication?
- Mark Trapp
Paul, do you think Google Wave will solve this problem? It doesn't have a subject line and it's much more different than email.
- Eren Emre Kanal
Eren, I don't know what will happen with Wave. It's a very interesting concept, but I suspect that it still needs a lot of refinement.
- Paul Buchheit
Now I'm curious what the subject-free gmail would have looked like, especially messages to/from other email systems.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It's less different than you would imagine Bruce. The biggest change is in the composer. Gmail already kind of merges subject with body in the inbox. Unfortunately I didn't figure out the right ui until sometime after wanting to remove the subject. If I had thought of it sooner, we might have been able to do it.
- Paul Buchheit
At least I (mostly) got rid of it on reply though :)
- Paul Buchheit
Writing concisely, knowing what a paragraph is/should be, understanding what a "topic sentence" is, and being able to summarize a document in a single sentence aren't skills that are unique to email. Blog posts, reports, books, magazine articles all have subjects... except we call them "titles". Seems like the people I work with all use email in a ways that's fundamentally different than some of you. I don't really get where the idea that subjects are superfluous is coming from.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, when I call up a friend or family member, I don't start the call with "This phone call will be about the weather. Hey Dad, how's it going?" Conversations are not written prose, and the premise being put out is that emails are extensions of conversations.
- Mark Trapp
That's a great example Mark. Subjects are very formal.
- Paul Buchheit
As is most business communication.
- Ken Sheppardson
Email is formal, chat isn't...
- Johnny Worthington
Mark: I notice that most if not all the entries on http://marktrapp.com/blog have subjects/titles. Why?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, because they're prose, not conversations.
- Mark Trapp
Paul - the fact that you say you "mostly got rid of it on reply" is exactly why subjects are so necessary. How else do we keep those conversations inline when dealing with other e-mail clients? Not all e-mail clients are able to thread conversations the way Gmail and Evolution do. With most of them, we have to rely on being able to sort/group by subject in order to keep related conversations together. As long as that functionality is broken, the concept of a subject has to stay in place.
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, I'm not talking about removing the RFC822 header, I'm talking about changing the ui so that people don't have to waste time thinking about subjects.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, I have to disagree with eliminating email. It's VERY useful for me in the way that I use it and for the people with whom I correspond. Of course, I don't have Wave yet so I may be eating my words soon.
- Jim Addz No Value
OK, I'm out. Y'all can continue to imagine this sort of topicless/subjectless world where email's just about "conversations"... good luck with that.
- Ken Sheppardson
But, somewhere that subject still needs to originate. Especially when we are talking about formal business communication, all of our messages (assuming you are using a snippet from the beginning of the message as the subject) would have a subject of "Greetings, _____" or "Dear ________" which would be completely counter-intuitive.
- Curtiss Grymala
Imagine a typewriter.
- Paul Buchheit
In the old days, when letters didn't have subjects, there was no easy way to automatically file them together or find one you were looking for. I would hate to go back to that.
- Gabe
Imagine, if you will a typewriter NOOOOOOO!!!! I'm so glad computers came along! I had a temp job working on a selectric, on a 3-carbon forms. It was a nightmare.
- anna sauce
I just figured out how to filter my gmail for no subjects. Took a while, but subject:"no subject" will do the trick. Looking through those, they're almost all crap. I'm going to give them their own label for a while, see how they look. If they continue to suck, I'll set up a canned response to tell the sender to stick a subject on there before sending it.
- Otto
What would be a great innovation is if an email program let you assign a subject to email conversations that the original sender wasn't polite enough to write for you.
- Gabe
+1 for Gabe.
- Curtiss Grymala
repeating how the ui might play out: snippet of body becomes the subject for a long form email, or short form email message is completely scannable in the message list.
- karl dotter
Kevin is spot on for why subjects world is better.
- Matthew DeVries
I agree with Kevin. I know I'm late to this thread but to answer Paul's "How do you know on FriendFeed?", the original post in FriendFeed/Facebook is in a lot of ways like a subject. It generates an overall topic that makes replies the body. When dealing with large conversation flows such as FF/FB, this tells the reader whether it is worth reading beyond. In many ways Twitter is the...
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- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
To add on, FriendFeed/FB Walls are in a lot of ways equivalent to being the flat file view of a message board's group of discussions/topics. Without subjects, it's just a bunch of unstructured data.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There's the expectation of the subject field to be there - it's a hard habit to break now - and it does give a bit of context and scanability to mail clients. But the process of labeling up mail could be migrated into place - 'mail tags', so to speak. Which could work for both sender and receiver and could make mail archives more like a folksonomy - and thus offer more integration with other web services.
- zeroinfluencer
I second that David, i was thinking along the lines. I would rather see the subject line being replaced with tags. Just keywords, no summary. Less thinking needed to summarize the message into one sentence, thus more productive and even useful for e. g. semantic purposes.
- Tibor Holoda
Hey - getting back on topic (we all got derailed there for quite a while) - I see no reason that Facebook really needs subjects on their messages. Since the messages are basically only used inside of the proprietary Facebook platform, which already threads the messages anyway, there's no real need for the subject.
- Curtiss Grymala
For what it's worth, Wave takes the first couple lines and makes it a pseudo subject, from what I can tell... It made it bold in the body of the wave (is it called a body?) and then added a dash in the inbox. Check out this example: http://img.skitch.com/2009100... all i did was type "Hi Louis!" as the first line of my wave and it did the rest
- Frankie Warren
Nope, don't need subject line. Instead, use labels (tags) to filter content (folders / views)
- Susan Beebe
For Facebook messages, the subject line isn't important; context doesn't need to be set. For "business" messages (Gmail/Outlook), it's more important, because the subject line is (usually) used as the first method of filtering/prioritising.
- Andrew Terry
+1 Andrew.
- Curtiss Grymala
yup, subjects with small updates is clumsy and noting but extra line that is not needed at all
- testbeta
I don't understand the problem. In the newsfeed there is no subject-line. In the message box, which is meant for long(er) form messages, there is one for fairly obvious reasons. It allows people to summarise the message and saves space. P.S. I use Facebook messaging as email nearly as often as I do Gmail, which I also want to include the subject-line.
- Vincent van Wylick
Yes.
- Meryn Stol
Yeah! Why do we always need to be formal?? Huh!? Is It social networking thingy or office networking thing? Lol! Good question, they should remove this. :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
The whole argument is pointless because in FB the subject is optional.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Wow, so much complaining. For subject haters, is it really that much of a problem to leave the box blank?
- Rebecca Sun
Furthermore, if you're writing just to say "hi" or whatever, put it on the wall! (Unless you're trying to keep your relationship a secret)
- Rebecca Sun
After being on Wave 10 minutes I can tell you it is a MAJOR MISTAKE to open this up to Twitter followers. It is like email but 100x worse.
infodiva, Barak Hachamov, Louis Gray and 13 other people liked this
It reminds me of the early days of the Twitter Public Timeline when SXSW "found" Twitter - very noisy indeed
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
hey, you can add users in conversation of your wish!!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
You realize how FF looked during the minutes after they released the realtime stream? :)
- Holger Eilhard
Holger: this is far worse. Why? Because it's all noise, it's not repurposeable (FriendFeed was all in public, so I could at least link to it).
- Robert Scoble
From the previews and posts I've seen it will be a great collaboration tool for small teams, but when waves get publicized the "signal to noise" ratio will be far too high. That said, anyone have an invite??? ;-)
- Chris Reichow
LOL. I know!
- Zachary TG
About to join a SQL Azure Services webcast.
Hey, can I join the session too? Please, let me know how? Thanks :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
@mohdabdurraafay oh man, was thinking it would be done tomorrow. But i guess not :( thanks for informing though.
Mention not! Then wht r you thinking for now? Again on Saturday? Why didn't you preferred some other PVT Bank?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
I am taking DD to take JNTU transcripts and they dont accept private banks
- Reetesh
For the iPhone shootout tomorrow with @chasejarvis what are your favorite three iPhone apps?
Susan Beebe, Mohammad Abdurraafay, metalerik and Mike Bracco liked this
Instapaper Pro, Newsstand and Tweetie at the moment
- Mike Bracco
Camera Zoom. SimplyTweet, Bestcamera
- Alan Morris
reMail, USAA, Stitcher
- metalerik
facebook, Twitterriffic, Flickr..
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Tweetie, CNN, Facebook atm.
- Brandon Titus
BeeJive, SimplyTweet and Facebook. Of course, the native apps like Camera, Compass, etc
- Susan Beebe
I just downloaded "RedLaser" and that's pretty hot bar code technology there. Just scanned my Chapstick and it immediately queried Amazon and returned perfect results... cool :)
- Susan Beebe
Kodak Smile is pretty cute too - new app from local Rochester folks :)
- Susan Beebe
Susan: http://dailyburn.com/foodsca... does the same thing for food and works perfectly too.
- Mike Bracco
Mike, thanks! I've got that one too, but RedLaser does more than food
- Susan Beebe
IDEA: Place to share all of our iPhone apps - sort of like OneForty.com
- Susan Beebe
Long weekend coming up......Girls Just Wanna Have Fun!!
Mohammad Abdurraafay liked this
oh, yeah!!! long weekend.. What you guys planning for? something special?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Yo @vicgundotra can you please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please get me a Google Wave invite? ;-)
Deepti, Amit Nangare, Mohammad Abdurraafay and 5 other people liked this
Me too please x10000
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Oh, I can count myself out from GoogleWave?
- Wins Fern
is it that hard to get a wave invite?
- Tahir Zaimoglu
Robert, if you ever want to play around you're always more than welcome to use my other test sandbox account.
- Jesse Stay
I'd love to be invited, too
- gib
Need. Too.
- fwed
Jesse: I want my own account. It's hard to get into it using someone else's account. Thanks, though, appreciate it!
- Robert Scoble
Dude? I can invite you ... I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan: could you please invite me email: saysunnykapoor at gmail....Many Thanks
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Ahsan: I need it too... please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please.... Thanks!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Any more google invites? I'm interested... amitnangare@gmail,com
- Amit Nangare
Amit, Mohd, Sunny: I have limited invites and a queue of 100 people .. so .. I must apologize...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan, should I be begging my husband- aamanlamba for an invite or demand it?:P
- Deepti
Oh, I didn't know you were his wife :) Demand it!
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
from IM
Man.. realizing now I have a 7:30 flight to NY tomorrow and I wanted to shoot a video plus pack tonight??? Ah!
Let's if you can make it! ;)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
abhishekdesai: A killer move by Facebook to get control in India: "Find your Orkut friends on Facebook" - http://twitter.com/abhishe...
Krishnamoorthy liked this
Facebook is going crazy....
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
nah, facebook has always been crazy, :o
- chaz2b
i'll take note if that catches on in brazil
- Chris Heath
Ah, it seems all nationalised banks will not be doing any transactions today :( needed to get some work done. 1 day delay now.
Yeah, dude! During dessehra. No bank will do any sort of transactions... You Forgot??
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Man, deciding universities is hard... what should I choose? UT Dallas or TTU? So many parameters :(
Mohammad Abdurraafay liked this
UT Dallas! Heard about this Uni... :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Ah, cool. I The only reason for thinking of taking TTU over Dallas was that I will have better chances of getting in and things would be less expensive, but going with UT dallas now :D
- Reetesh
Susan Beebe to Susan's feed, Facebook, Facebook Marketing, 3G iPhone, iPhone, iPhone App Ideas, Friends of Mashable
Ok raise your hand if you got the new Facebook iPhone app and are fumbling around trying to figure it out!!
Matthew Horton, Alexey Ivanov, Josh Haley and 31 other people liked this
You didn't read the facebook page for the app showing where all the new things got moved to beforehand. :P
- John Wang
haha no! should of though, busy week...
- Susan Beebe
Digging the telephone icon on the contact list - call people directly from Facebook!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
oh that is cool!
- Susan Beebe
its awesome great job @joehewitt
- Isaac Zahavi
very snappy, too - very fast YAY!!
- Susan Beebe
Getting used to it! Great update
- orionstarr
from iPhone
Where is the new app? My iPhone says that all of my apps are up to date, but I don't see that UI.
- xero
I just did the same thing. Still says 2.5, but completely new UI. Liking it much better, it's finally useful.
- xero
Landscape mode!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
I agree, diggin' the L.S. mode...
- Ron Thompson
I'm barely on Facebook. I only started out there when they purchased our beloved Friendfeed.
- JR Holmes
the new FB app is really hot!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
cannot find the new version on app store. wtf?
- Cos
Cos, install V2.5 - that is the new version.
- Andy Bold
@Andy Bold Thank you mate :)
- Cos
Now that I know it's out, I can start fumbling with it. Missed it completely!
- Michael Fidler
Cos - no problem. I think I got the original tip from a tweet by @Mona - I've just been spreading the word. #CreditWhereItIsDue
- Andy Bold
from email
I thinks it's actually pretty intuitive ... I'm also not one to "read the directions" :-)
- Don Bonaddio
I love it, very intuitive.
- Kate
it's pretty simple... i didn't find that any fumbling was needed
- Chris Heath
I've installed it but can't get it "load my friends." Any ideas on how to solve?
- Jim Turner
I love the new design. It's a lot faster and smoother than the old one...
- Michel
Jim did you get it to load your friends? it was crashing on me right after i tried to load my friends the first time and i deleted it and re-synched and everything was cool
- Chris Heath
Maybe I'll finally move to i3.0 tonight.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I can't figure out how to access my Group & Fan Pages - pretty important when you're an Admin of a bunch of 'em!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
::raises hand:: so if a person has their phone number in FB and then it shows up in 3.0 then you can call them eh. Seems like it. Interesting
- cheapsuits
from iPhone
I'm pretty sure I could call people's numbers from the Android browser's mobile FB web page...
- Andrew C
I'm still trying to figure out the regular interface and now you want me to work this crazy thingy?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
The iPhone app is vastly easier than the browser version (which I hate).
- Drew
This is a typical iPhone app. Though it's a third party app for the iPhone.. It inherits lots of feature of iPhone..
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
What's this? Got 31 unread emails all of a sudden after reaching home. Seems to be a problem with Workplace network. It never alert me there
Ah, you've got a job now? What is it may I know?
- Reetesh
Lol! I was about to tell you seriously! Thehiringtool.com startup company :) .Net thing. :p
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from email
TOMO TOFL
All the best!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
Thanks man :D
- Reetesh
My Google Profile - http://www.google.com/profile...
Still can't find it in google search!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
My Google Profile - http://www.google.com/profile...
But can't find it in Search result!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Breakfast Can Wait. The Day’s First Stop Is Online. NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Karola Riegler, Mrsth, Satnam Narang and 34 other people liked this
"This is morning in America in the Internet age. After six to eight hours of network deprivation — also known as sleep — people are increasingly waking up and lunging for cellphones and laptops, sometimes even before swinging their legs to the floor and tending to more biologically urgent activities. “It used to be you woke up, went to the bathroom, maybe brushed your teeth and picked up the newspaper,” said Naomi S. Baron, a professor of linguistics at American University, who has written about technology’s push into everyday life. “But what we do first now has changed dramatically. I’ll be the first to admit: the first thing I do is check my e-mail.”"
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
addicts. each and every one of you I say.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't wait until morning, hitting my iPod Touch or iPhone all night long. NEED DATA.
- RAPatton
This is news?
- dkb
jenali: I do the same in the middle of the nights sometimes... Seriously! reading emails & tweets!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
I spend the first 2 hours of every morning in front of a computer before doing mostly anything else usually. I get up early though.
- Thomas Hawk
Now I really am feeling either old or appropriately balanced. I get up, take care of duties, fix coffee, have breakfast...and then, about 90 minutes later, turn on the computer and, among other things, check email and FF. (And it's usually 12 to 14 hours of "network deprivation" since I rarely use the computer after dinner.) Ooh, so deprived...
- Walt Crawford
Um I still read the newspaper first thing. Old school!
- Matt G
Matt: What's a "newspaper"?
- Otto
In answer to Matt, newspapers simply need to be re-born, and I've go an idea how to do it.
- Shari Weiss
A newspaper is a portable device that I can read in the kitchen while I cook breakfast. The best thing is I have to go outside once a day to collect it.
- Matt G
Well, yes, I read (part of) the newspaper over breakfast & coffee. And go outside to collect it...
- Walt Crawford
imagine how much it would suck if you woke up in the morning and went immediately to your computer and you *didn't* have internet service. You'd be bummed.
- Thomas Hawk
hey Thomas, thats happened to me a couple of times.. No net access. yes that sucks.. espcially when you one is a RoadWarrior !
- Peter Dawson
I grab my iPhone and check FriendFeed after my alarm goes off... on my iPhone... before getting out of bed =P. Then I check my work email.
- Travis Koger
Ditto Travis. My iPhone is my alarm, and I immediately hit email and FriendFeed before even getting up. I do that even if my laptop is RIGHT THERE, as it often is, because I'm often internetting until the very second I go to sleep. It's usually at least half an hour before I get around to bathroom duties.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yes, I agree. I feel the "addictive" quality of it (btw-Thomas, same article caught my FFShare, too. ;)) When I found myself slipping into the pattern of the "10 second walk", I got tough with myself and made morning prayer a priority. I find that its better when I can wake up to prayer and meditating about the day first. I'm not as rushed or anxious even though there is plenty to be...
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- Melanie Reed
Falling asleep using the iPhone to browse FF is A LOT easier than doing the same on a laptop... especially if you are in bed at the time ;)
- Travis Koger
I'm pretty guilty of this. I had to cut FriendFeed out of my morning check because it was making me late to class, so just email and Twitter. While this might not be the best behavior, it is sometimes necessary, I can't tell you how many times I'd wake up, check the email, and find out my first class of the day was canceled. Many of us are doing this because it is required.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
Aram, just dump Twitter and keep FriendFeed instead.
- Thomas Hawk
Just because I'm sitting naked in my bed with my nightguard in my mouth, haven't brushed my teeth or broken my fast yet doesn't mean I'm an addict. Nosirree.
- Spidra Webster
Thomas, I'd love to, but the problem is many of the people I work with are on Twitter only and have no interest in joining FriendFeed, no matter how much I try. These are the people I pay attention to Twitter for. If I could see my Twitter feed in FriendFeed, I would stop using it entirely, but I can't because the Twitter feed is password protected.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
The really pathetic ones are those who can't even wait until morning to read the day's news – I know someone who actually read this very NYT article the night *before* on his/her iPhone just before going to bed late Sunday evening.
- Mark Taber
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- Arnaldo M Pereira
from Bookmarklet
Oh, yeah! GWT is awesome! Can i see your work?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Tate DA FF MVP to Tate's feed, All Things Mobile, The Apple Room, 3G iPhone, Android, All Things Google
Google Says Mobile App Stores Have No Future | Gadget Lab | Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/gadgetl...
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Should this be a controversy?
- Tate DA FF MVP
from Bookmarklet
I think semantics has everyone involved here confused. An app store is a delivery method, not a platform. It's entirely possible to have an app store for HTML5 apps. I think what Google really wants to see is a wold in which mobile apps run in any HTML5-enabled mobile browser, thus spelling the end of handset-exclusive, walled-garden stores such as the one for the iPhone. But that doesn't mean that the app store concept as a centralized repository for mobile apps will cease to exist.
- LANjackal
@ LANjackal - Excellent Point. However, web apps running in a browser are still crippled when compared directly to a native OS APP. Exceptions like Gmail can be optimized for the particular Browser e.g. iPhone OS which is not bad and I’m sure The Android experience is way better. Facebook on the Mobile OS is close to perfect, can’t find a reason why I would go back to the browser however optimized it may be.
- Tate DA FF MVP
I agree with you 100%, I was just explaining what I think Google's intent is. Native apps will always be faster than code running in a browser. Apparently Google hasn't learned from the horrible performance of AIR and Java desktop apps. Nothing runs better than code compiled and optimized for a specific platform
- LANjackal
from IM
yup. what Holden said.
- vijay
why would it not Holden? In the end, Mobiles are just computers that can make calls. It's logical they will follow the same path as their "not-so-mobile" predecessors. : )
- vijay
It's just because google is trying to making some great web apps which even runs offline. With latest HTML 5.0. So the thing is you can save your page to make it work offline. Therefore, they say there is no future for native apps that too with marketplace. We can't surely assume that!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
i disagree with "Google", actually one VP at Google. Here is why http://ouriel.typepad.com/myblog...
- Ouriel Ohayon
@LANjackel server side web app code runs faster(sometimes) ;-) a local email search took 25secs, a webmail search for the same (on more emails, returning 6x the results) took 3secs
- immaterial
train photos - http://pixdaus.com/...
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excellent
- johnny2009
Awesome!
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from iPhone
I love photos of complex rail junctions - strangely beautiful!
- Martin Bryant
Lovely
- M F
The most awaited updated is here 'Yahoo Messenger with push' But, it's returning me an error :( can't update it!
When I go to app store and tap to update. After verification of my password, it shows me this thing. Any clues?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
from email
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