"Swedish researchers said Tuesday what women have suspected all along: that marital woes can often be attributed to men's genetic makeup, according to a study linking a common male gene to relationship problems. " - Mona Nomura from Bookmarklet

it's true although i get it from my dad.. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

So what? Now we can't even get mad at them because it's not their fault if they cheat, it's genetic darling! No way... - Niki Costantini

both, but who's counting? - Bren, Photophobe

hahaha Niki (: you're right! - Mladen Srdić

That's what I'M saying, Niki. Screw statistics and research. Cheating is cheating. Do Not Want!! - Mona Nomura

No doubt. - Bren, Photophobe

some people are introverts some are extroverts some it's a cultural or personal, etc did they look at the outside interference in the research? exorcism is common in india could it be there faith? skin cancer is common in california etc.. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

You're right Mona: cheating is cheating. - Niki Costantini

Caroline? What are you talking about? lol - Mona Nomura

Caroline right, but you have a brain and you can make your choice. I don't think your examples fit in this case... IMHO of course - Niki Costantini

LMAO!!!! Caroline????? - Anna Haro

i don't mind cheating at all. i have cheated. but all these different things also add to a persons ability to "cheat": religion, location, type of culture you live in etc. if i man is allowed to have 5 wives is that considered cheating then? it's not well rounded ....the research project... is all - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

Every person, individual, has a choice. 'Everything is not black and white' is a load of crap. It's either or. This or that. :) - Mona Nomura

To me it is. If a man is allowed (and i find that abosolutly wrong since it's not allowed even the other way round) to have 5 wives, it doesn't mean he can't choose to have only one. - Niki Costantini

Not that I am in favor of polygamy but ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Bren, Photophobe

So it comes down to... choice. And cheating IS a choice. Even polygamy. - Mona Nomura

ego centrism ... my dear.. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

That I think everything's black and white? Far from egocentrism, Caroline. :) Fact remains, it's a choice. Monogamy, polygamy, cheating, or not. - Mona Nomura

+100 Mona +100 Niki - BeeLing

there is a reason why few men have chosen to stay away from this thread. but as a dancer for many years i can tell you that just because a guy cheats it doesn't mean he loves you any less. sex CAN be just SEX! just something they feel the need to do. or it can be a very amorous thing... but some men.. good men...cannot have sex unless they are in love and completely trust a women... either way both forms are truly great. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

Caroline, you're right, sexy can be just sex for many men (and women), and I can still understand that, but to me respect is always respect - Niki Costantini

I've bartended at a night club for a few years, been in corporate -- entertainment and IT (Fortune 500's). Doesn't matter who you are, or where you're from. Paid, free, consensual, or not. Cheating is still cheating, Caroline ;) - Mona Nomura

Allright, everybody, before posting another comment on this, read Mona's last comment. You'll learn something, and not just about love/relationships/sex stuff. EDIT: that makes it the one before last comment (: Mona. you're fast! - Mladen Srdić

Who needs F5 when I can edit and scroll like a maniac! - Mona Nomura

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOL! Fail, wrong thread! - Mladen Srdić

I was replying to your comment saying I'm fast! - Mona Nomura

LOL FAIL ------------------> - Mladen Srdić

So true. - Toastpaint

says you!! Mona.. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

Men should be pretty evolved these days, and NOT act out every single urge. Last I checked, they're walking upright--knuckles off the floor. So what if science tells me they have the genetic make up to eff all day and night with lots of different people. He is also an evolved thinking human, no? Take some responsibility and make wise decisions. There are lots of things I CAN do, but don't because they're stupid and would have negative consequences in my life. - Anna Haro

Caroline: Says the vows that legally bind two individuals in a marriage... And Anna: exactly! - Mona Nomura

then vow on your life. when you ignore him because you worked too much and you didn't pay attention to him when he is Finally had enough.. he looks twice at the strip club or a girl in the subway... and i heard 1000x times how she doesn't wanna touch me. or she doesn't pay attention to me. remember my words. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

Can you see the little thing that peeks behind the hair of the girl with the hat? It looks like the tip of the knife to me! Poor guy. - Mladen Srdić

Wheres the gene for personal responsibility? - J. Abdul-Qahhar

@J. Abdul-Qahhar--you lucked out my friend. Science says you don't need one! Whoo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Anna Haro

:D What has science done?! - Mladen Srdić

That's right Mladen, you can PART-A like it's 1999!!!!! - Anna Haro

But those men have choices, too. Divorce, communication, or therapy. Everything is a choice! - Mona Nomura

Mona that's it, the answer to this entire thread is...wait for it...COMMUNICATION - Anna Haro

your looking at things at a female point of view. have you forgotten some men find it hard to communicate these things... we mostly do the talking... - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

blah...blah...blah...always has to be the guy's fault, eh? pass! lolz - .LAG liked that

Well, they better learn to communicate. How hard could it be? And that's just not correct. - Mladen Srdić

No, I know they do, but it's something they have to work at, and women need to learn how to read them as well. We both need to work on better communication with each other. - Anna Haro

Caroline: I am not looking at it from a female's point of view. I firmly believe it's up to the females to reach out, so the connection is never lost, since females -- like you said, are the talkers. - Mona Nomura

btw... @·[•_•]· -- that's the coolest FF username evar! i must follow just because of that - .LAG liked that

@.LAGizmoto you should have seen the other variations (: - Mladen Srdić

Is thinking about cheating cheating? Is thinking about being with someone else while intimate with a partner cheating? How about just choosing to spend free time with someone else? And why is it wrong? Is it wrong because it's lying? Is it wrong because it may be dangerous? It isn't black and white. Everyone will answer these questions differently and most people probably don't know their partner's answers. - ·[▪_▪]·

i remember this guy said a long time ago...it had been so long it is just a void...a void. grand canyon........ your right tho. some women give up. or after the talk. it's just. over?.. but some women have low sex drives too?! right? i dunno i have a pretty hyper one so dunno why...but during the talk then what? hi i ignored you then what? plan? plan for what time? we work too much how to make time etc.. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

This thread is starting to annoy me. Suddenly, men don't do the talking -- i guess we're back at slamming the females on the back of their heads and drag them away to our caves. - Mladen Srdić

@mladen shh were getting there. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

my take: men are beautifully simple. women are beautifully complex. men are the immovable object. women are the irresistable force. ladies, if you can't figure out the guy you're with, then don't be with him. and, once you figure him out, either accept who he is, warts and all, or leave him. it really could be THAT simple. some guys can communicate. some guys can't. some guys will cheat. some guys won't. i have to put the burden on the so-called better half: ladies, figure it out or get out. - .LAG liked that

and mango, too. - Mladen Srdić

@Anna Haro... Thanks for making coffee squirt out my nose hahahaahah - J. Abdul-Qahhar

poor guys... - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

mona they want you back sweety.night. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

We need Kyle to /end thread. - Mladen Srdić

This is exactly the reason why people should choose their partners, wisely. To make sure, the bond is never severed. Otherwise, why get married? And it's not poor guys, Caroline. It's a two way street :). @Nicerobot: Thinking and acting are two very different things, in my opinion. Besides, if you think of cheating, then something is very wrong. But that could be me. As ADD as I may seem, when it comes to personal relationships and feelings, I have a very one track mind ;). - Mona Nomura

polygamy is not cheating. but anyway, this whole issue is going to take our species a bit more emotional evolution to properly deal with... we're still schizophrenic about it (our social rules do not match our biological rules). but if you want a sneak peek: realize that eternal monogamy is a fantasy and get over it. - Anthony Citrano

This is why being muslim is the way forward as they are encouraged to marry only one wife but if he gets permission he can marry an additional wife up to a total of four. Correct me if I am wrong! - Joe Dawson

@mona no no i meant poor guys they want the thread to end and more legos and bacon. - i ♥ derrick #bellymeme

Partners don't need to be chosen wisely. They just need to be given time to learn about each other, thoroughly, no less than a year. This is just too complicated to discuss in this small box. :( My point was just that some people will think that thinking, in that sense, is cheating. This is really easy though, live your life the way you'd like your partner, and everyone else for that matter, to live theirs without imposing your beliefs on them and hope your partner does the same. - ·[▪_▪]·

Anthony: Just because it's legal, it doesn't make it any different. A polygamist is just legally cheating. :) @Joe: HAHAHHAHAHAH! - Mona Nomura

Nicerobot: Yes, I agree. Though the fact remains, however which way one tries to sugar coat it. Cheating = cheating, J. :) - Mona Nomura

OMG...is this thing still going? - Anna Haro

OMG... YES, wtf! - Mona Nomura

People sugar coat cheating? My massive sweet tooth and I must try. :P - ·[▪_▪]·

Mona I guess we define cheating differently. If everyone's open and honest with one another, I don't get how it's "cheating." - Anthony Citrano

If you took a vow to be true to that one person, and that one person only, wouldn't you be defying rules? (Given that your'e open and honest) @Nicerobot: =O!! - Mona Nomura

YES I totally agree with you. If you commit to be monogamous with one person, and you break that while you are still in that commitment, it sure *is* cheating. But polygamous relationships are not monogamous 1:1 commitments. They are commitments between multiple people. No one's cheating so long as they remain within that bond (however many parts it has.) - Anthony Citrano

So, men cheat because it's genetic, and women cheat because....they want to? - Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane

I don't buy the argument that men (or women) cheat because of genetics. Sure thousands of years ago it was genetic, but today human beings have a brain capable of analyzing and thinking and deciding on a choice. There is no such thing as "accidentally" cheating either. Cheating is a choice, all those so-called "reasons"; drinking involved (or not), she/he's just a friend (with benefits) or not, these are choices that each individual person makes. - LonelyBob