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Mona Nomura
Mona Nomura
Palm event about to start at #ces09 - Note to self: Lower expectations. Be "cautiously optimistic" WOO HOO ... crap. FOCUS, MONA. FOCUS
January 8 from Twitter - Comment - Share
i can't find video of their nova os anywhere so it better be close to mindblowing... - Anthony Farrior
Anthony - I'm with you. i want to know about the software/OS changes, more than formfactor. - Mona Nomura from IM
This is make or break for them. I would like to see them do well, though. :) - Shawn Farner
Me too. But given their track record, I am cautiously optimistic LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
Robert's Streaming http://www.kyte.tv/ch... WOOOHOOOOOOOOO - Mona Nomura
Yeah, I'm feeling positive - I'd love to see a real battle royale in the smart phone arena in '09. :) - felix
Sorry, I'm watching on Robert's stream while on Slashgear and Giz's live coverage. EXCITING STUFF - Mona Nomura from IM
I might use an iPhone now-- but I'm a closet Palm fan--I hope they knock it out-of-the-park.. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Depending on how it is, I might return the iPhone. Back to the roots... what does that mean - Mona Nomura
colligan's an idiot. - felix
Um this is kinda... it looks like the iPhone Nano HAHA - Mona Nomura from IM
I'm watching via this (with pictures) http://bit.ly/10AnH The Pre looks a little portly but liking the keyboard. - Jauder Ho
So far the Pre looks like an iPhone knock off - Robert Hafer
That's really not fair, my first impression was iPhone Nano that gained holiday weight but we can only tell from pictures - Mona Nomura from IM
Is there a FF room for this? - Jauder Ho
Palm event? I don't think so. - Mona Nomura from IM
I'm on Robert's stream, refreshing Giz and Ryan Block's site for pictures. - Mona Nomura from IM
EVDO means Sprint or Verizon. - invariant - farewell FF
Palm has always been with Sprint. That's why I was with Sprint for so long - Palm. - Mona Nomura from IM
LOL ok, is anyone there now? Was Scoble actually busted by the Palm fuzz? - Shawn Farner
Palm is also on Verizon, and if this phone is going anywhere I'm betting one of 'em will get an exclusive. - invariant - farewell FF
Video's down. Someone's talkign about Palm thugs LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
I hope they don't do that (exclusive) That's the iPhone's biggest downfall - Mona Nomura from IM
Liking the screenshots. - Jauder Ho
Video is still down. People are talking abotu unlocked GSM - not yet, anyway - Mona Nomura from IM
An iPhone for people that hate Apple / AT&T might be a worthwhile niche market. - Robert Hafer
But is that enough, who knows. I like Apple but hate AT&T. Don't want to jailbreak, so this might be an option for me. - Mona Nomura from IM
I just hope they are better about fixing things. They have been horrible about fixing bugs over the years. Bluetooth support on the 700p is still marginal. - Jauder Ho
"Joy of Vole Sex" WTF? - ld
remember the iPhone is different most because of user experience - not hardware.. you cant just say every touchscreen phone is an iphone killer - andy brudtkuhl
++ ANDY - Mona Nomura from IM
I guess that since I'm going to CES alone, I'm likely to experience a 'palm' event sometime this weekend... - Morgan Haley
TMI, bro. - ld
Handle it. Oh, wait.. - Mona Nomura from IM
And it was even TMI for LD - and that is saying something ROFL - Mona Nomura from IM
Yes, even *I* have limits. - ld
hahahahhaha - Mona Nomura from IM
Someone's saying flash for browser... when is this going tos hip?! - Mona Nomura from IM
Touchstone!!!! - ronin
Ugh, Sprint. - ronin
I like Sprint... - Mona Nomura from IM
Reading Palm event coverage on gdgt. So far it's just AMAZING. For the first time a device isn't an "iPhone killer" because of touch screen, but because it's really ahead in fulfilling user needs. - Kirill Petrovsky
from Giz "The app switching looks really really fluid, and lets you keep all your data in front of you, so you don't lose track of what you're doing." - Mona Nomura from IM
Does Ryan Block have a bias towards Palm? Or is it just me? - Mona Nomura from IM
I'm on his site right now - wow he has REALLY good seats! http://live.gdgt.com/2009... - Mona Nomura from IM
WOW his seats are AMAZING - Mona Nomura from IM
omg no price, no release? palm, you're killing me. - Shawn Farner
Shawn - where are you? I'm on gdgt right now, The man has some INSANE seats and I LOVE the layout of his blog - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona, Ryan's a Palm fan if his tweets are any indication. - invariant - farewell FF
I dont follow him - Mona Nomura from IM
I'm flipping back and forth between GDGT and SlashGear - GDGT hasn't updated in awhile (that's the one I was primarily watching - shhhhh). Apparenty, release will be sometime in the first half of this year. - Shawn Farner
crunchgear has a nice live updating feed. http://is.gd/eToM - felix
I'd have to say that this is the first device that is actually playing in the same game as the iPhone, at the very least. - invariant - farewell FF
Does it sync wirelessly? - invariant - farewell FF
Wait, all those apps they showed are web apps? - ronin
"The Palm Pre will be available first half 2009, and will have partners such as Facebook, Pandora, Google and others providing content and apps for the phone." THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY - Mona Nomura from IM
I hope you don't HAVE to use Javascript to write apps. - invariant - farewell FF
gdgt stopped updating - Mona Nomura from IM
YES, web apps They're touting how easy app development for Web OS is. You basically just need to know HTML and CSS. - Mona Nomura from IM
Amazing stuff. - Andru Edwards
Dru - where are you at? - Mona Nomura from IM
I spend enough time off-line (BART tunnel etc) to give web apps "thumbs-down" - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Rob: I don't think you have to be connected, just that they use tech like CSS, html and Javascript to implement. Like I mentioned before though, I hope they also support native code or they'll have a hard time competing with iPhone apps. - invariant - farewell FF
We dont' know the stipulations just yet. Certain apps can have be both native and a web app. - Mona Nomura from IM
Think about how unrestricted this would be. VERY forward thinking. I'm shocked, actually. On top of that, if it follows all its predecessors, Palm should have expandable memory. Any specifics on specs? - Mona Nomura from IM
OMG Sandberg is there?! http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19... - Mona Nomura from IM
I see removable battery but no mention of removable storage. 8GB built in. - invariant - farewell FF
Keynote supposedly ended with no mention of price I'm still on Cnet - Mona Nomura from IM
invariant - thanks, I'm jumping around different sites, looking for specs - Mona Nomura from IM
Yeah, still a bunch of unanswered questions like price, app store, legacy apps... - ronin
Cnet (imho) has one of the clearest liveblog http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19... - Mona Nomura from IM
Ironic, my Palm T5 just crashed and erased all my data. - Robert Hafer
What's a B-roll Satellite? http://investor.palm.com/release... - Mona Nomura from IM
This is where Sony gets it right - their marketing/PR department is phenomenal. All the info was UP while people were still excited, thus generating more word of mouth. Palm? Sorry but FAIL - Mona Nomura from IM
B-roll is a video news feed from a satellite, Mona. - Oldengrey (Jay)
Can the public access it? I'm still looking for the specs. I should just check Scoble's feed. BRB - Mona Nomura from IM
I am completely, and thoroughly impressed...but we still need to kow price. - Andru Edwards
Well I want to know a lot of stuff - is the memory expandable? Native apps or web apps only? What's the name of the browser? Technology? - Mona Nomura from IM
Sketchy specs = vaporware? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
+1 Rob - andy brudtkuhl
Vaporware... - Mona Nomura from IM
Well "Pre" the Nova phone is scheduled for launch in q1 of 09 (according to scoble) I just need to SEE solid details. - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona: I'd add "does it sync wirelessly?" to the list too. And is it confirmed that there's Flash? - invariant - farewell FF
Where are you, invariant? gdgt stopped updating, as did cnet and giz - Mona Nomura from IM
Nowhere with new info. I think slashgear said they have a hands-on at 3:30. Otherwise, just checking Scoble's feed. - invariant - farewell FF
This is so strange everything just halted. - Mona Nomura from IM
Is there a hands-on? Demo? What is going on? - Mona Nomura from IM
I will mention that I'm impressed by the workflow Ryan Block has. The pictures were uploaded very quickly. - ld
Where are the details?! Now that I know what it looks like, I want to know more about the OS, apps, etc - Mona Nomura from IM
++Mona for a fun thread. Back to work for me, I'll look for more info later. - invariant - farewell FF
me too - thanks for participating you guys, I'm still searching for details. *edit: I'm gonna stop searching and simply wait for the hands on from everyone. I'm sure all my questions will be answered then. Thanks everyone for participating!! :) - Mona Nomura from IM
Does anyone know what codebase they'll be building Nova on? I assume that it'll either be based on the existing Palm OS Garnet, a home-made Linux variant, or something written from scratch... - Tyson Key
Tyson - there're still no details. Everything just halted, so I'm going to wait for the after hands on updates. No use speculating. :) - Mona Nomura
Thanks Mona, I was just curious. I look forward to hearing more about it, though. Shame that folks always seem to be secretive about these things... - Tyson Key
Ya- I don't know waht the issue is LOL But this was a really fun thread. And ++ to FriendFeed for IM and ++ to Robert for streaming. Wow, this was one of the best times I had at CES and I'm not even there! I love FriendFeed :) - Mona Nomura from IM
Maybe it ended up going into SuperNova mode. ;) - Tyson Key
Hmm, is it confirmed that it has an accelerometer? I know you can flip orientation but that could be accomplished through other means. - invariant - farewell FF
Developer info here guys: http://friendfeed.com/e... - ronin
So that's where Palm's Mojo went to? ;) - Tyson Key
They're on Twitter!! - Mona Nomura from IM
saeba: thanks. If you can build apps in anything other than Javascript they're hiding it well. - invariant - farewell FF
So vague. They're quoted saying something amongst the line of: If you know CSS and HTML you can develop - Mona Nomura from IM
WTF? A HTML based "application framework"? I'm having déjà vu, or so I think. Still, I'd be interested to know how/if things like retrieving phone book data, or using Bluetooth would work. - Tyson Key
They're on FF too: http://friendfeed.com/palminc. Private feed though. - invariant - farewell FF
This is just speculation - we won't know for sure until the hands on http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mona Nomura from IM
"Use a JSON-based message bus to tap into a wide range of device services, including contacts, calendars, and location." - invariant - farewell FF
Accelerometer confirmed. - invariant - farewell FF
Don't see any mention of memory expansion. - invariant - farewell FF
Me too... - Mona Nomura from IM
Slightly off-topic, but have any Symbian Foundation announcements been made at CES this year, so far? Their website seems to have gone into radio silence mode, and the last news post was from the end of last year. :( - Tyson Key
Screenshots! - Tyson Key
You know - I think they're going Java and that's why all these people are partnering up with them. WHY would Sheryl Sandberg show up there? - Mona Nomura
Tyson - Shouldn't we be asking Nokia about Symbian? - Mona Nomura
@Mona - Good point. They said they'd be announcing/launching Something(TM) this year, seeing as they've finished the acquisition of Symbian Ltd (barring actually integrating them into the rest of Nokia, as they did with Trolltech). I'd be interested in seeing where they go, as far as branding is concerned, too. (Would it still be called Symbian OS?) - Tyson Key
I think Nokia acquired Symbian because Symbian didn't want to go OpenSource ... they've been way too quiet the past few months, I'm really curious to see what they come out. And PLEASE no more iPhone clones... - Mona Nomura from IM
The silence is deafeningly loud. :( - Tyson Key
Interesting. They haven't changed the copyright year on the site footers, and the last set of "Fast Facts" are for Q2 2008, but they added "On December 2nd, 2008, Nokia completed its acquisition of Symbian Software Ltd as part of its plan to enable the creation of the non-profit organisation Symbian Foundation." to the about page at http://www.symbian.com/about.... The last news item on SymbianFoundation.org was on the 4th of December. - Tyson Key
I'm on Symbian Foundation right now. Interesting. - Mona Nomura from IM
I've just subscribed to Symbian's main newsletter, and despite registering to receive updates from the Symbian Foundation, since they launched, I've received nothing. FAIL. :( - Tyson Key
Looks like the copyright banner was updated on http://developer.symbian.com/main..., and they link to the Symbian Foundation, but those changes are conspicuously absent from their homepage. - Tyson Key
FacePalmed, Shawn Farner? ;) - Tyson Key
Wow. Interesting post on Engadget about Palm's stock price. Up 35% already. http://www.engadget.com/2009... - Russ
This is scary. We don't know anythign about it yet. Not sure how I feel about that... - Mona Nomura from IM
Tyson - no. Good link. - Mona Nomura from IM
I wonder if they'll bring out a version of the Pre with 2.1GHz UMTS. - Tyson Key
I need to step away from CES news for a while. All this speculation is just driving me crazy LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
Mona, explain how this post has 128 comments??? I'd like t know how you do it. - Roberto Bonini
It does? I haven't been on FF but conversing via Gtalk. It's just a buncha geeks hanging out. I'm glad for this thread - I didn't have anyone else to talk to about this LOL - Mona Nomura from IM
@Roberto - The secret: Talk about a product that's only just left incubation, has just been announced, and has an air of mystique around it because of sketchy/missing details. Leave to simmer for a few hours on a mild temperature. ;) - Tyson Key
What is more exciting The New Palm or getting more than 100 comments?? - Alex Sauceda
It is a cute little thing, in any case. - Phil G
CUTE? I am still floored by the multi-tasking. I don't care what it looks like, to be frank LOL - Mona Nomura
Roberto - 100 of them are her. :) IM increases commenting rate 100 fold - Bwana ☠
Yeah the emphasis on multi-tasking is interesting. Why was it that they're not willing to do multi-tasking on the iPhone again? - ronin
@saeba - Excessive sandboxing of processes was the rather feeble excuse, if I remember correctly (same deal with copy and paste). I doubt that's the case, though. Still, it seems like an artificial limitation. - Tyson Key
Wow - WEBKIT FTW! I'm excited for the hands on - Mona Nomura from IM
Video is up on Giz but those stingy people made it private it i think cuz it's only viewable via their site UGH - Mona Nomura
Looks like the hands-on is going to be limited. Still no direct confirmation but I'm fairly certain now: no expandable storage, no native apps, linux and webkit based. Still seems like a great phone, but not one I'd drop the iPhone for (as a gamer and game developer). - invariant - farewell FF
The SG guys should be messing with it right about now. I'm super jealous. :) - Shawn Farner
Did you see the video on Giz? Those bastards disabled embedding or hid it, since I don't see it anywhere on Vimeo - Mona Nomura from IM
Watching it now. There are little lights under the touch portion that is past the screen to give feedback that you're doing something. Nice Apple-y touch. - invariant - farewell FF
I'm still a little skeptic. Everyone keeps buzzing about it but aside from multi-tasking, what makes the Pre so outstanding? I'm all for Palm but I'm a tad confused. - Mona Nomura
Hmm, Nova/WebOS is a proprietary/"home-made" Linux distribution? - Tyson Key
Mona, I'm hating on WebKit for lack of a session manager (without some random addon). WTF? That and the hokey GreaseMonkey thingamajig - ld
LD - Why do you need a session manager? ... and I'll probably get e-hated on for this, but I truly can't stand GreaseMonkey LOL - Mona Nomura
Coz when the browser crashes (and they all do), I get my porn back exactly the way I left it =P. GM is awesome, it helps fix the crap that various sites do not have. But I won't e-hate you coz you like ze bacon. - ld
LD no comment. haha - Mona Nomura