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Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Laura (goldie), dgw, Mitchell Tsai and 170 other people liked this
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :)
- joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea!
- Susan Beebe
Very cool =)
- FFing Enigma
Cool stuff.
- Mike Bracco
gr8
- حاج مهدی ©
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work.
- Fred Yankowski
more good stuff
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation
- directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader.
- Jesse Stay
great idea!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!!
- Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like.
- Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday.
- Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
fatma küfür istiyor
- Joan Miro
Check out this beautiful 360 Aerial Panorama of New York. You need to have QuickTime to view it, but if you want the best quality use the plug-in on the site. It’s amazing with the plug-in loaded! http://www.pixelcase.com.au/vr...
zephyrlily, Wulffy, Kong Yee Peng KMN and 107 other people liked this
I found this photo in the photostream of xmir on Flickr.
- Michael Fidler
is there a link to the orig? I think the FF image is static
- Keith - @tsudo
OK, it should be up!
- Michael Fidler
wow!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Let me know if it works. I think the best view is from Governors Island or the from Downtown with the view pointing up.
- Michael Fidler
Over-the-top amazing!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Awesome. Like taking the helicopter ride I've been too cheap to pay for...
- Mitchell Tsai
Here's another one of London. Amazing! http://bit.ly/qjf6M
- Michael Fidler
Here's an amazing one. I just let it go, rather than control it; http://www.pixelcase.com.au/vr...
- Michael Fidler
It appears the plug-in is no longer necessary. I'm running it in Chrome without one.
- Michael Fidler
That is pretty amazing.
- Son of Groucho
Nice!
- Kol Tregaskes
This is awesome.
- Mark Krynsky
The viewer appears to be Flash not Quicktime,
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, they changed it since this was first posted back in May. It used to require a VR plug-in which worked with QuickTime, but now it doesn't require anything, However, it looks just as good as before. The images are truly amazing!
- Michael Fidler
New York, New York!!!
- Myrna
Michael - didn't notice the post date-- "Doesn't require anything" -- Flash must be installed so something is required. The Flash viewer seems to crash a lot though (or at least in Chrome) -- still a great pano. I wonder how it was done -- from a helicopter no doubt but beyond it would be a mystery.
- Brian Sullivan
I just tried it in Chrome and recommend Firefox instead. It didn't crash on me in Chrome, but it didn't run smoothly either.
- Michael Fidler
Brian, I would love to know how these are made. I know some are done from a helicopter, but if you check out the one from Downtown, it's clearly stationary. I can't even see the reflection of the camera in the building windows when it's turned around 180 degrees. I've posted links to others above. I wonder if I should repost this to a room and if so which one?
- Michael Fidler
Here's the link for Sydney http://bit.ly/aFFbZ and I'll grab a few more.
- Michael Fidler
I know generally how to make these 360 panos but the only technique I know is shooting from a tripod where you have control of the leveling of the camera and control of the angle of shooting. You have to manipulate out the tripod out of the picture after shooting -- these I have no idea, http://radio.weblogs.com/0127028... is a QTVR one of my living room
- Brian Sullivan
All the fisheye does is cut down on the number of shots you need to take -- if it goes 180 in both directions two shots are nominally sufficient on a full frame camera - usually 3 though but that is only if all are shot with the same horizon and with precise angular placement. How you control this in a moving helicopter is beyond me. Maybe more than one camera ? In shots like these where parallax is less of a problem maybe that is the method used
- Brian Sullivan
This must be shot completely differently than a stationary panoramic. I'm familiar with the 8 shot method, but the camera needs to be on a tripod as Brian mentioned. If you watch these images load slowly, they look like plates. It sort of reminds me of photosynth, but connected somehow. Now, I really want to find out how it's done.
- Michael Fidler
I think regular stationary panoramas are loaded as "plates" (at least you export them that way to edit them) as well so I am not sure that is a clue as to how they were generated.
- Brian Sullivan
If I email them, do you think they'll answer? Hi, I was just curious; what’s your secret? You never know. It might be worth a try:)
- Michael Fidler
Here's one of U2 (on one of their smaller tours), and I don't think they had a helicopter with them to shoot it. http://www.pixelcase.com.au/vr...
- Michael Fidler
That one is done from a tripod or monopod of some type it appears -- you can see if you look down the footprint has the logo on it.
- Brian Sullivan
Ya, I noticed one that had the logo above it. May they use it when photoshop doesn't do the job perfectly.
- Michael Fidler
Logos like that are used to hide the footprint of the tripod or other -- sometimes it can be a lot of work create a shot to cover the spot (or to fill it in using a bitmap editor) so it is just masked.
- Brian Sullivan
OK, check out this one http://www.pixelcase.com.au/vr... and go into planet view. It's the P next to the directional controls. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Shot off a reflective globe maybe.
- Michael Fidler
Michael: So you like "Little Planets"? :) http://www.flickr.com/search...
- Holger Eilhard
The "P" gets you the "polar view" -- a standard view that can be created from any 360/180 panorama so that is not a clue as to how it is done either from what I can determine (http://www.flickr.com/groups... is a flickr group dedicated to such polar views)
- Brian Sullivan
I've seen them many times before and wondered how they were made, too. This guy has some examples and apparently he uses a 10.5mm lens and then maps them into shape: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Michael Fidler
STUPENDO! Io ci torno il 18 Settembre
- PICCHU
Yes the 10.5 is a Nikon fisheye lens -- I use a Peleng 8mm fully manual fisheye -- more suited to my budget. When shooting with tripod you need a parallax correction jig as well -- I use the Nodal Ninja -- which is a reasonable quality low end device.
- Brian Sullivan
I was on the Hugin site a few months ago and I found a video that demonstrates how to use the jig. It didn't mention helicopter shots though. In fact, the video was very particular about not having any movement. I think it's time to ask them.
- Michael Fidler
Yeah I have seen a number of these panoramas that seem to defy logic. Peter Murphy (who is a pioneer in this type of stuff) has a number of puzzling ones - http://www.mediavr.com/manlyai... (needs Quick time) for example. His weblog has tons of others as well _http://www.mediavr.com/blog/
- Brian Sullivan
@briansullivan I went to an event last night where I came across something that might explain how these are done. If you check out the picture I shot of the equipment; it uses a reflective dome to capture the entire shot all at once and then processes it almost instantly afterwards. http://bit.ly/qD0dn . It basically comes out looking like a globe or a planet before it is processed. Once processed it look like a full panoramic just like the ones here, but in lower resolution.
- Michael Fidler
I haven’t seen the digital version yet, but the guy who owns this company told me they would be much sharper than the prints which they give out at the event. I also asked him about the helicopter shots, and he wasn’t sure about compensating for movement, but he didn’t see it as a big problem either. Mystery solved?
- Michael Fidler
I don't see this lens/device as "the" answer. Other similar devices have a reputation for low optical quality and low resolution. Peter Murphy almost certainly does not use such a lens. No serious panorama photographer that I have heard of uses anything like this.
- Brian Sullivan
I guess the search for an answer continues...
- Michael Fidler
Hi - I own Pixelcase and shot the tour of Sydney aswell as all development. Glad you like my work.
- pixelcase
Thank you, I'm glad you found this. I love your work. Based on the number of likes and comments for this post, I think it’s safe to say, I’m not the only one. It would be nice if you could enlighten us with some details about how these are made.
- Michael Fidler
Here's a link to pixelcase's newest and IMHO best work of Melbourne http://ff.im/eBJZn
- Michael Fidler
Outstanding -- still no resolution on how it is done -- but I guess there is no reason why he should spill all his trade secrets.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian - No answer, and I can't blame him for wanting to keep it a secret. I guess that we have to just appreciate it for what it is. However, I'm already looking forward to whatever he does next!
- Michael Fidler
Poking around in panorama forums -the consensus seems to be that the pictures for these panoramas are shot with a multi-camera set up attached to an RC helicopter. The viewer is krpano - http://www.krpano.com/
- Brian Sullivan
???? :) http://johncolebrook.com/compone... - enjoy
- pixelcase
http://friendfeed.com/briansu... a helicopter like this would do the job
- Brian Sullivan
John, thanks for sharing. Love it! Brian; I've always wanted a RC helicopter, but I still haven't gotten around to buying one yet. However, the picture from the one in the video is great.
- Michael Fidler
FYI rosauro - the helicopter guy is also a well known VR/panorama photographer (also from Toronto where I am ) http://www.rosaurophotography.com/
- Brian Sullivan
Ugh. The incorrect perspective caused by stretching the picture on the sides makes me queasy.
- Otto
Otto, maybe Dramamine would help:)
- Michael Fidler
rjleaman: Complete List of Google Wave Gadgets, Robots & Extensions plus The Cheat Sheets http://bit.ly/FDuxB - http://twitter.com/rjleama...
Alex Kapranoff, Brook White, Jorge Gobbi and 3 other people liked this
No sé si catalogarlo en TRENDS o en HUMOR !!!! - http://mcallan.tumblr.com/post...
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Google Wave Preview Opens to the Public on September 30th - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
siva s, Michel van Helden, John and 159 other people liked this
Yippee!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Can't wait
- Matt Ruiz
At last!
- Usman Bashir
Yeha!
- Fatih Taşkıran
This is so going to work in the classroom! I'm excited.
- Miss Elle
And Google Rocks! :p
- Fırat Demirel
Just forewarning - the public will be overwhelmed. It's too much to launch with, IMO - way too many features. (I'm in the developer sandbox preview)
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse Thanx 4 the forewarning I kind of have that feeling when the video presentation presents itself it will take a while to look around its features. I always take my time to test features
- polou/indigo_bow
I expect a steep learning curve. I've barely started learning about GReader, for that matter. Still, I'll be there when Wave launches, for sure.
- Dennis Jernberg
Anil Dash said it best http://dashes.com/anil...
- Mac64
Unless they fix up a lot between now and then people are going to be very, very surprised (not in a good way!). Release early, release often is great, but I'm not sure people's expectations are realistic.
- Nick Lothian
Let's see what it's like then. Thanks for the info.
- Rick Cogley
OMFG
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Great now how long till Google buys Twitter to integrate it into Wave
- Rob Cairns
Rob, there is already a Twitter extension called Twave that integrates Twitter into GWave.
- Kol Tregaskes
Rob: I highly doubt that Google will buy Twitter as it doesn't fits any were with their existing products and with its integration with Wave what's the point of buying it.
- Usman Bashir
Usman - they will find a way to leverage it into Wave or another product.. I really believe Google is going going to make a big splash with Wave and they will have some big surprises in store. Google is not King of the cloud for a reason:)
- Rob Cairns
I've been secretly hoping that FFers, through one of our A-lister friends, would be reached out to for early invitation. Sept 30 is sooo far away!
- JCunwired
Thank Heavens for Google!! Every Computer User owes Google a Huge Thank U for FREEing us all from the Shackles of Greedy Monopolistic Crappy Microsoft* ;))
- Billy Warhol
I watched the video. So exactly what kind of beast Google Wave is? A social media platform? Can it aggregate as well as FriendFeed? Looks awesome to me. More like a tsunami. lols
- jan geronimo
bump due to duplicate
- Zee.
Hehe, delete the dups, Zee. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
i did didn't i?
- Zee.
I'll bump this again. Sorta disturbing that the the Scoble "look at me, I'm part of this" thread has garnered more attention than this. WAVE offers more promise at this point.
- Mattb4rd
Whoohoo - I am really looking forward to Google Wave - great news - thanks Zee.
- Robert Freeze
My new FriendFeed application: FFSummary - (yes ff has just launched this as a feature, but *what a pity*, we were working on it, too.) Try it now: - http://ffsummary.com/#
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I developed it and waiting for your feedbacks. (Sending reports of users/groups/lists will be available, soon)
- Alp
from Bookmarklet
Bill, *NOTHING* as I said in the title, we were working on it past few days and the official FF feature has just been released today!
- Alp
shame that they were already duplicating your work. hopefully you can find a way to repurpose this somehow to differentiate it from the official feature.
- chrisofspades
@chris, it seems we were doing all the same thing. a big coincidence.
- Alp
what chrisofspades said. I bet you learned lots of cool stuff too! :)
- metalerik
Alp, how about an RSS feed? I try and use email as less as possible but would appreciate the summary in RSS format.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, hmm this idea sounds great. Currently we keep records of emails, and yes we can create RSS aggregations for regular summaries. Sure, I'll do it on my spare time and announce again, follow http://friendfeed.com/ffsumma... for news. Thanks.
- Alp
Üretken arkadaşlar, Tebrikler
- Sadik Kocabasa
Is there a WordPress plug-in to automatically push new posts to FriendFeed via the API?
Nicola Greco, Robert Higgins, (jeff)isageek and 93 other people liked this
Instead of just having a new post show up as a title and a link when the system gets around to checking your feed, you could push an excerpt and an image to FriendFeed the instant the post goes up.
- Ken Sheppardson
There is a WordPress plugin to support SUP, which would accomplish the "instant" part of your goal: http://wordpress.org/extend.... To get images you just need to support MediaRSS (I believe there is also a WordPress plugin for that).
- Benjamin Golub
Cool, where do I sign...........?
- Kevin J Hatton
Nice idea!
- Don Bonaddio
Nice. I will use this... Thank ;)
- Semih Masat™
Benjamin: I knew somebody'd mention SUP :-) I'd rather not add some intermediate service/protocol, I just want the ability push directly via a single plug-in, preferably with a UI component that gives you control over what image or images are added, select the excerpt, select what groups the post goes to, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
What I want is probably similar to what Ken you want - something to push the title & link& image as a post, and an excerpt as a comment to FriendFeed, which would then go to Twitter. The group selecter would be ultra cool on top of that
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yeah, I'm using PUB-Sup, but what would be even more interesting is something that pushes, and tracks comments of the pushed post at the same time. I'd like to have real-time comments on each blog post.
- Jesse Stay
Matthew: Yes.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Have you seen this one: http://sudarmuthu.com/wordpre...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Just found it, looking into it now
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
WP-Sup (http://neothoughts.com/wp-sup/) + MediaRSS (http://wordpress.org/extend...) plugins will do the job
- Bwana ☠
Rob: Cool. Looks like Sudar's around http://friendfeed.com/sudar Maybe he'll drop by...
- Ken Sheppardson
Just sent him a tweet. Hopefully he'l join us :) Looks to be in india
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
OK, I get it, guys. I know how SUP works and I know you can use SUP and MediaRSS to accomplish what I want. But I don't want to ping some API to tell it to go pull something from a feed... I want to make a single call to the FriendFeed API designed for creating entries http://code.google.com/p...
- Ken Sheppardson
Shouldn't be that hard to build. You can do it Ken :)
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: I think Sudar has already. :-) I'm going to put his implementation through its paces over the weekend.
- Ken Sheppardson
Oh ok cool... Hmmm.. I'd try it, but I'm not sure how it'll affect Backtype Connect on my blog. I want to be sure the FF comments get pulled in correctly.
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: not sure exactly what you want to try - but in general any entry that links to your posts will be connected by BT Connect -- we do of course try our best to cut out things like auto snippets of text that appear as comments when using the FF bookmarklet.
- Mike Montano
Mike - I just wanted to be sure if I remove my RSS feed from FriendFeed and use this solution, will my comments get pulled back into my blog. I gather the plugin would have to only link to my blog from FriendFeed, and Backtype does the rest
- Bwana ☠
Yeah, it seems like once the plugin creates the entry on FriendFeed with a link to your blog post, you're home free, no matter how that entry is created.
- Ken Sheppardson
I like I like
- Michael Ehline
Hi Guys, nice to know that the Plugin (Post2FF) which I created around 9 months back is of use to someone :) I am take the code dust it off and will add the new features that you requested. Stay tuned :)
- Sudar
Awesome! Thank you very much Sudar!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Of note, Sudar: it would be most handy if we could select the link that is published on the entry - either the linkt ot the blog entry or the ff.im link. (wasn't clear to me if the API actually supports this?) On most of my blog posts, I'd like to direct people straight to the post, but someone or some entries might prefer linking to the FriendFeed post/discussion
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am done with the modifications to my Plugin to add new features like choosing the room to which the link to be posted, selecting images etc. Will release it after completing the testing. If anyone is willing to do beta testing, just ping me.
- Sudar
I'd love to give it a try :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yay Sudar with his remedy to dust off (Post2FF)
- Janaree Nore
Sudar: Ping. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken, Please DM your email address and I will send the Plugin for beta testing. If everything goes well, I will be able to release the Plugin tomorrow by this time.
- Sudar
Sudar, sounds interesting. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So guys, finally I have updated my Post to FriendFeed Plugin with support for rooms. You can get the new version at http://sudarmuthu.com/blog...
- Sudar
Also let me know if you face any issues.
- Sudar
I want it thanks Sudar!
- Robert Freeze
Are we able to do the revere post from FF -> Wordpress, not as a rss thing but as a post?
- Chirag Chamoli
@Chirag, I am not sure if I understood your question. Can you explain it a bit?
- Sudar
nice! like the idea Ken.
- .LAG liked that
I wanted to understand If I can autopost from friendfeed to Wordpress. I am using the rss feed in the sidebar, instead I want the stuff to be added to wordpress as a post.
- Chirag Chamoli
from email
@Chirag, You can install WP-O-Mattic WordPress Plugin (http://devthought.com/project...) and use the FF rss as input to publish from FF -> WordPress. (I haven't tried it, so not sure if it will work 100%)
- Sudar
@Sundar: Thanks I will start working on that.
- Chirag Chamoli
I am interested in using Sundar's plugin. Is it compatible with WordPress 2.8.3?
- Skyler Call
@Skyler Call, It should be compatible, since it doesn't use any functions which were changed in 2.8+ Anyways I will check it and will bump up the supported version in readme file.
- Sudar
The Problem With The Real-Time Web - No Google Juice - http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt...
matagus, Jose M Pelaez, Gary Purvis and 16 other people liked this
Yet...
- Christian Anderson
from iPhone
This is absolutely wrong. My FriendFeed items are showing up in Google.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
...my FriendFeed items show up as well
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Tom is wrong again.
- Louis Gray
Left this comment. It's waiting for approval: "Sorry, but nope nope nope to the first half of your story about tweets not being able to rank in Google. Here's a perfect example that I ran into just in the last couple hours. Tonight my wife and I attended a Kathy Griffin concert at the Mountain Winery. Steve Wozniak was in the audience. On the way out of the concert, my wife did the...
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- Matt Cutts
So wrong ....
- Charlie Anzman
By Google "juice" I'm not talking about being searchable, I'm referring to pagerank, the importance that Google assigns to content. There is a big difference here. There would need to be a system that collects and collates all your online personas along with your website/blogsite.
- Tom Foremski
The real-time web is no so important. Not yet anyways. And it's not reliable, it's basically a huge mess. mostly a waste of time and noise. Once Google Wave starts working it will be another story.
- Charbax
another sign up for the realtime isn't real deadpool list
- Steve Gillmor
There's an opportunity for someone to complete the circle on real-time and static web and of course, Google is best positioned for that. And that's why "real-time" isn't what's going to crack GOOG's dominance.
- Tom Foremski
realtime isn't gonna crack anybody'd dominance - it is extending it
- Steve Gillmor
Google juice is fine and can be attributed - real-time does something far more powerful - flocking and virility. Google search is for residual traffic, Real-time is for live conversation.
- Chris Saad
Real-time is just a feature though, there are other profound features that will coalesce into a new phase of the web
- Chris Saad
oh wait Saad is clueless too
- Steve Gillmor
Heh sure :)
- Chris Saad
a feature, then your app is an implementation of a feature - don't think so
- Steve Gillmor
It's a feature - an important one, but a feature none-the-less - There are some other important features that need to come together as well for a real sea-change
- Chris Saad
sea changes are overrated
- Steve Gillmor
realtime v. sea change - take rt and the $
- Steve Gillmor
I disagree - IRC was 'real-time' - the point is not just real-time - it's also about concrete identity, distribution, aggregation, implicit and explicit gestures and more
- Chris Saad
don't throw gestures at me pal
- Steve Gillmor
I think we are just debating naming conventions though - whatever you want to call this thing its exciting as hell
- Chris Saad
agreed I call it realtime
- Steve Gillmor
I call it something else :) But it's still fun!
- Chris Saad
concrete gestures blah blah blah - realtime wins
- Steve Gillmor
How bout PushButton :-)
- PXLated
rssCloud
- Steve Gillmor
Don't give up on your genius from the old days Steve - you were right - just ahead of your time - like all of us - Gestures still need to play a role
- Chris Saad
I was right then and right now
- Steve Gillmor
You're always right - aren't you?
- Chris Saad
you're still about to be right
- Steve Gillmor
haha what does that mean
- Chris Saad
don't worry it'll come to you
- Steve Gillmor
It seems discussions about these types of things end up too binary - either/or. It's neither either/or but "and".
- Tom Foremski
Tom, you started it with "The problem"
- Steve Gillmor
Seriously though - have you had a moment to read our synaptic web straw man steve?
- Chris Saad
seriously, what the leo are you talking about
- Steve Gillmor
what the Leo LOL
- Chris Saad
http://synapticweb.org/ <-- this thing is what I am talking about. I'd very much like your input (as always)
- Chris Saad
I still say realtime is the wrong emphasis. It's about flow, and persistence.
- Kevin Marks
Yes Kevin - that's part of my point - would love ur input on that link too
- Chris Saad
Yes, I did :) But I wasn't clear enough on the "problem." I'm thinking in terms of investment of time between blog and the real-time world and how much time should I spend here and there...
- Tom Foremski
More content on my blog gives me an investment that translates into a better pagerank which is a lasting benefit. But it's not clear how lasting are the rewards if I spend more time in the real-time world...
- Tom Foremski
Why is it either/or Tom - why not integrate real-time on your blog?
- Chris Saad
*bump*
- Jay Cuthrell
tom's post points out the obvious. "You've got to do both. If you abandon your static web presence for your real-time activities you will find it harder to build your overall social media capital". of course a single micro-message is not *typically* going to have any weight as it's often just a pointer to the real content value. the largest percentage of the so-called real-time...
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- sull
i also think real-time is a feature of the larger evolving digital infosphere. in a way, realtime is like rapid failure.... meaning... the speed and volume of the data flow to analyze and grade and filter and stock... the greater the value realtime offers to intelligent systems (ie. google). slower data flow translates to a slower realization of what content is not only generally good...
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- sull
The other day, @bitlynow gave me a link about someone who died. my first thought was... hey it's bitly, they are good at what they are doing so i gave the tweet artificial value by reposting it only to realize moments later that the link and story were part of a hoax and possibly part of a worm. perfect example of why faster realtime data flow and analysis are critical to avoiding bad data from propagating.
- sull
sull - well said... Some people however, aren't using pointers, they have nothing to point to, and that's a mistake.
- Tom Foremski
Who says Real Time doesn't get you Google Juice. Not the Murphy Goode winery: http://www.google.com/search... (yesterday's post already there) or, more accurately, http://www.google.com/search... .
- Robert Scoble
Thats more like, its the problem with today's Google.
- Lakshman Prasad
Great framework for understanding different models of crowdsourcing
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In keeping with my monthly reporting of compete.com tracking of FF vs. Twitter, for the month of June (after a flat May) Twitter grew at an astronomical monthly rate of 16.57%. FF by comparison mostly held flat in fact declining .26% after crossing the one million unique visitor count last month for the first time.
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I suspect that a lot of the continuing media coverage of Twitter probably accounts for it's continued rise. I'm not sure why FF seems to remain flat though.
- Thomas Hawk
I remember seeing a graph like that about the time Pownce shut down..or similar.
- Mike Lewis
Plus I'm sick of hearing twitter every time I turn on the TV. Wish Rick Sanchez and Don Lemon could see me shaking my fists at them :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Because FriendFeed continues to be perceived as too hard to use, too much information, too difficult to make it display what you want it to display, too desktop centric, et al. And they are right.
- Robert Scoble
I think FF might be a complex enough web service that it needs to step forward and make its own desktop and mobile clients, in its own vision. Quality clients straight from the horse's mouth would bring the experience out of the browser the way it's meant to be.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I disagree. Their mobile site is top notch, and as for desktop app, just use a chrome instance on windows or a fluid.app on mac, works beautifully, shortcuts and all.
- Evan Travers
from Android
Scoble: I think Twitter makes it much more difficult to make it display what you want it to display. Without some type of Folder structure, Twitter falls apart keeping order once you follow a certain number of people. FF brings order to the madness.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
TWITTER TRACKER TWITTER TRACKER
- Rochelle
1UP Rochelle
- Akiva
ff needs to read my post about how they will make money - that chart would change if they would listen :)
- Allen Stern
thanks for keeping score
- chaz2b
Robert if people can figure out how to navigate the iTunes store or buy something on amazon, then they shouldn't have any trouble figuring out Friendfeed. It's not that complex.
- Jeff P. Henderson
from iPhone
Who is searching for "hip hop distribution" so much and what does that even refer to???
- Mitch
interesting point Robert. I wonder how they could improve it. I know that one thing that I would like would to be able to import all of my Flickr contacts into FF. I think there are a huge number of potential Flickr users who would use FriendFeed if it had that capability. Not sure why they don't implement that. It would be very cool to match up my Flickr contacts with their FF accounts and auto set up imaginary friends for contacts not on FF yet.
- Thomas Hawk
FriendFeed still needs SMS - for instance, in South Dakota I couldn't access or post to FriendFeed, but I could Twitter because I still had SMS. Twitter is simply open to many, many more audiences because of that.
- Jesse Stay
I believe that mostly only after Twitter users have sufficiently "banged their heads against" its unwieldiness with larger "following" counts (and no, Tweetdeck isn't a sufficient solution), do they wake up to the idea that a service like FriendFeed is even necessary (someone that doesn't think Web2.0 info filtering as a huge issue simply doesn't need FF). As such, FF is likely always...
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- Alex Schleber
Jesse - Use an SMS to Email client, FFS.
- Mitch
i'm with alex on the paid features, but not $100/year. maybe $50 or $5/month. and totally agree that FF will remain a great tool for power users as long as it stays in its current form.
- Scott Magdalein
A quick look at Quantcast (the far better measurement tool BTW) and you'll see that Twitter's success is tied to a band of addicts and regulars. 1% of the people make up 35% of the visits. FF hasn't obtained this type of hard core following yet. But Twitter is not converting new people as fast as they were - more than 50% of users have never sent a Tweet. How much is now automated Tweet...
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- AJ Kohn
Scoble has provided the best analysis of why Twitter is taking off and Friendfeed is stalled: noise. It's as simple as that. The FF interface is much too cluttered. Try offering the option to hide all comments and large images by default, and see what happens. Multi-column list view. More powerful automated personal prioritization of news. Radically reduce the noise and clutter, while...
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- Sean McBride
one million unique visitor isnt all that much
- Iphigenie
Sean: My argument to this is that FF signal/noise ratio is much better to control in FF over Twitter. First, the engaging posts (like this one) float to the Top. But secondly, I can move people that create more noise than signal to a High Volume Folder. This gets rid of a lot. On the screen real estate, I kind of agree but love being able write longer items (like this). Agree that Filter types needs improving.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Technical people, savvy people, early adopters - you know, cool people like us - know about FriendFeed, but if I talk to my family about the web then they'll have heard about Twitter and Facebook and MySpace but there's a complete blank look if I say the magic word FriendFeed. The failure is one of marketing and usefulness; there's nothing complicated or restrictive for mainstream users about using FriendFeed but what will my parents get out of it and how can it be promoted to them for example?
- Mark H
Mark brings up a great point, it's the flock effect for most. They go where there friends are or where they think their audience is and that's mass marketed sites. I personally like Friendfeed this audience size (though I understand they would prefer to grow).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
FF, a long way to go, but Twitter can't sustain this growth for long time
- Michael_techie
Hello Thomas, Thanks for sharing, have you make any revenue through twitter? How you done this?
- Rohit
Revenue through Twitter? not that I'm aware of Rohit. I've sold a lot of photos on the internet and get money from ads when people read my blog, but I wouldn't say I've made any direct revenue through twitter directly.
- Thomas Hawk
manielse says: "Twitter falls apart keeping order once you follow a certain number of people. FF brings order to the madness." Absolutely not true until you go to the trouble of setting up lists, groups, and searches. All of which you can do on Twitter with clients like TweetDeck. Or, just do as I do: don't follow thousands of people.
- Ian Betteridge
Ian, my point is that I don't need a 3rd party tool to do it in FF. Yes it's a little work but worth the effort IMO.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
friendfeed is too complicated for the average user, is a pain on mobile(reason I use it less than twitter), and doesn't have Ashton Kutcher or anyone comparable. It's a better product that will never really go "Mainstream Pop".
- Cody Heitschmidt
Friendfeed is where all the really *smart" people are. Yes, I mean YOU. :-)
- Karma Martell
I agree Karma! :)
- Thomas Hawk
Ditto Karma and Thomas! And there's so much more here on FF. You can do so much more with creativity.
- Myrna
My friends are joining Facebook. Twitter not so much (although corporations seem to be catching on). FriendFeed - nada.
- Mitchell Tsai
What does FriendFeed need? IMO Paths, signposts, places-to-go. In my past life doing HCI (Human-computer interface), ~50% of people don't get "directory" structures much less anything so info-rich as FF. See my posts on Myers-Briggs, where most people here are a minority of the general public. People here can read 100+ blogs & new sources. Most people are overwhelmed. If you simplify...
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- Mitchell Tsai
and how many twitter accounts are actually in use, posting and interacting? there are a lot of dead twitter accounts. the main problem with friendfeed is it gives to much power to your friends to change the priority of your posts. there should be a linear mode
- NoahDavidSimon
Chris's post brings an interesting piece to the "too complicated" debate: Facebook is actually more like Friendfeed than Twitter. Facebook is very complicated in many aspects yet it's mainstream. Point being, FF is not really too complicated, it's just not a household name (and I like it that way).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
What would I like - "Find me 10 people talking about cancer related topics." "Give me 20 hot technology discussions." "What's happening with 3G networks and the future of WiFi?" "Whose birthdays have been happening?" "Waterfall pictures" "Swimming discussions" etc...
- Mitchell Tsai
Manielse: Facebook is a great way to share pictures... FF is more text-based.
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell, you're just subscribed to the wrong people.
- Myrna
Facebook is hardly just about Pictures (yet I admit done much much better than FF) and is very text based.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Manielse, ditto
- Myrna
Pictures? I'm on fb and have 1000 friends or more, not as many as Sarah Palin. I love posting pics on FF, better than fb
- Myrna
It's just that regular people like fb. My whole family is on fb and that's a lot of people. They wouldn't be interested in FF.
- Myrna
Facebook also has critical mass. To make another comparison, Tribe.net offered a wonderful service (with some early investor money), but only achieved critical mass in the San Francisco Bay Area - mostly with the alternative "Burning Man" crowd. Tribe.net is kick-butt for SF events, but sucks in LA. MySpace started with the music scene, but managed to grow. Where will FriendFeed go? Can it move past techies, bloggers, and a few photographers?
- Mitchell Tsai
Facebook has not reached critical mass with my college classmates (1982-1989, age 40-50). Only 3-8% are on Facebook, and I still haven't seen a mad rush (including my Tech CEO/CTO friends). Most are deathly afraid of the career consequences. Whereas, 30-40% (maybe more by now) are on LinkedIn. My dance communities (a few thousand people) made the cross-over to Facebook in the past year - perhaps 95% are on Facebook (compared to about 5-10% last year).
- Mitchell Tsai
Honestly, most people come to Friendfeed and see constant discussions about Friendfeed. That's just what they see. It's A list narcissism on speed with a mob mentality. And don't take this up with me, look at the graph again. Take it up with the people that come here, see what they do and leave. Maybe it's good that it is that flat to the established community here, but I'm sure the founders cannot be pleased.
- Mike Lewis
I always love the "Most are deathly afraid of the career consequences" quotes. It's so true that people are afraid of these tools. If you think about it HRs would love to see your FriendFeed, less work for them to find all of your online postings. I can understand the fear is being transparent and open but private people in my opinion raises more concerns...makes me question why they are so private?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
manielse: Because one stupid picture can cost you your job as a high-school teacher. Traditional institutions are so conservative. Some high schools prohibit their teachers from using Facebook (for fear of lawsuits from parents), even though some college professors are now using Facebook in their classes. I have some high school principal friends, and the fear of lawsuits from students...
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- Mitchell Tsai
Some interesting points raised here: http://ff.im/53C52 about FF's lack of growth.
- Kol Tregaskes
Mitchell: I hear you. It's just so sad that these things (Lawsuits & fear of loosing job) happen though. Fear is such a powerful force.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
And I just shifted completely over to ff this week.
- Rohit
like your post on how friendfeed could work better with flickr too
- Kate
friendfeed is such an awesome blogging tool it would be a shame to ruin it with a community that I have no control over. I kind of feel the same way about Seesmic
- NoahDavidSimon
Spammers Shorten Their URLs - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
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"MessageLabs, a division of Symantec, said today the presence of shortened URLs in spam has skyrocketed over the past few days and now appears in more than two percent of all spam. The presence of shortened URLs in spam has skyrocketed over the past few days. The company says that the dozens of new URL-shortening services are allowing spammers to evade anti-spam tools that target Web domains known for sending spam. The services also inadvertently help spammers trick Internet users who would normally be wary of domain names like, say, Spammy.ru."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
So the obvious question is whether there are tools that interpret the root URL after the shortened one does the redirect. Or is a redirect not necessary?
- Mark J
URL shorteners should provide a 301 redirect to most automated systems, which allows everyone to resolve the URL before serving it. But that's only if they play nice, and spammers do anything but. They could just as easily frame the content (just like the DiggBar et al) to make it especially hard to determine where they redirect to.
- Mark Trapp
Those spammers [shakes her head in bemused wonderment]
- anna sauce
Mark: if you run an email product, it is pretty difficult to follow every link in every email, 301 or not.
- Bret Taylor
Great... I'm starting to think that URL shorteners are more pain than they are worth.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
If following links is too hard, I wonder what the solution will be then: blacklisting of certain URL shorteners, or scoring known URL shorteners higher? That'd be a pretty good reason to stop using them altogether. I guess it'd be pretty trivial to have a dozen more shorteners pop up for every one blacklisted, though.
- Mark Trapp
I run http://hex.io and we screen all submissions against the surbl lists http://www.surbl.org/ i suspect others will follow suit if they haven't already.
- Bob Stewart
Bret- what do you mean as an email product? ESP or a transactional email system in your software/web site?
- anna sauce
Yet another reason url shorteners are the work of the devil. Seriously, we need another way for links to break like we need a hole in our collective head. And I have a hard time seeing twitter enabling as a good thing either :)
- Joel Webber
anna: I mean if you are Gmail, you receive billions of emails a day, and following all of those links is practically infeasible (and has privacy implications)
- Bret Taylor
wow, what a messy problem to solve... yikes
- Susan Beebe
This URL shortener works pretty well: <a href="http://thisisaverylongurlwithl...">short</a>.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: Can you get that to work properly in a posting to Twitter?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Rishabh: I can't but twitter certainly could if they could be bothered to do so. (notice how Friendfeed handles it? seems to work!)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: So let's say I use Twitter through the text messaging service. I have a limit of 160 characters. How do I get the long URL to show up as a short URL? How do I receive long URLs that don't hog up the space?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
There are two use cases, really: typing a long URL into a text message and sending it out to Twitter, in which case I really wonder how many people are actually typing in URLs; long, short, or otherwise; when they're texting. The other use case would be receiving URLs via text (so, someone tweeted a URL that you want to see from a text message). In that case, Twitter could set up their...
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- Mark Trapp
SMS wasn't designed for URLs. Fortunately we have other ways of sending messages now on phones that are likely to have modern browsers.
- Jason Wehmhoener
How can this problem be resolved? The amount of spam is rising daily. Is there a way to filter? TRENDS: Twitter Needs Spam Filter, http://hubpages.com/t/98819
- Debby Bruck
Let spam detectors be aware of URL shortening services so that they can detect the blacklisted ones the same way they had been doing it before. Identi.ca expands short URLs - so other programs will be able to do it too. Should there be a Spamassassin plugin for that ?
- Jean-Marc Liotier
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FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
That's the new hawtness!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
wow
- michael sean wright
whoa!
- vijay
SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA
- Josh Haley
Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
the game just changed
- chrisofspades
Haha! Nice...
- WoH: Minding her Steves
nice
- endiaferon
This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list.
- Kol Tregaskes
Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint...
- sean andersen
Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again.
- Kol Tregaskes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit?
- Frankie Warren
this has awesomesauce all over it
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
is video an option?
- Zee.
We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff.
- Bret Taylor
Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication?
- Mark Trapp
No video at the moment, Zee.
- Ross Miller
Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com?
- chrisofspades
So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox>
- nickrw
nice!
- Mike Bracco
So, no BluRay rips, then :p
- Josh Haley
Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable).
- Bret Taylor
Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect.
- Bret Taylor
Very Nice
- Brent - Yes I am
Bret - is music an option?
- Zee.
WIN
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Any other files that don't work with it?
- Kol Tregaskes
What's the file attachment size limit?
- imabonehead
Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that?
- Frankie Warren
@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff."
- Dan Hsiao
@Dan, thx
- imabonehead
Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported
- Dan Hsiao
Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above.
- Kol Tregaskes
MP3s?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day).
- Bret Taylor
OK, but any format?
- Kol Tregaskes
I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me]
- Philipp Lenssen
Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing...
- FFing Enigma
LOL, Tina.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tina++, Holy Crap! :)
- Rah-PM 2012
music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Bret: What about attachments to comments?
- sean andersen
Swwwweeeettttt!!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry....
- FFing Enigma
Greatissimo :)
- stanjourdan
Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw?
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server?
- Frankie Warren
Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock.
- Mitch
Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images?
- Kol Tregaskes
Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating?
- Akiva
I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :)
- Carlos Ayala
I think you can support them by buying the FF swags.
- imabonehead
and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY
- chrisofspades
NIIIIIIIIIIICE
- Pedram
Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :)
- JA Castillo
JA, agree.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, cool. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code.
- imabonehead
mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry, yep MP3s are supported.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind.
- Mike Elliott
Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood.
- JA Castillo
Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed...
- FFing Enigma
And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?!
- JA Castillo
If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it).
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool stuff
- Tyson Key
Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest?
- Tyson Key
Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition!
- Holger Eilhard
NaFFster! :)
- JCunwired
Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;)
- Tyson Key
this is GREAT!
- Cee Bee
Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1..
- Daniel Sims
Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :)
- Victor Ganata
Hey Bret, are these virus-checked?
- Jordan Hofker
@Jordan - good question
- andy brudtkuhl
Jordan, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
The moment I read this I updated my AV program.
- JCunwired
Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type?
- Cliff Gerrish
Jordan- yes, we virus scan them.
- Casey Muller
Cool, Casey. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome, thanks Casey.
- Jordan Hofker
Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time.
- Casey Muller
Haha, Victor. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit?
- Jordan Hofker
search by file type?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jordan - what is **AA's ??
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's.
- Gil Francisco III
Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;)
- Frankie Warren
Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned
- Richard Walker
Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky.
- Jordan Hofker
Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea?
- Jason Nunnelley
How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good!
- Richard Walker
yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc.
- Nathan Chase
Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment."
- Ross Miller
\m/
- metalerik
abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love**
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
This is nice! Very nice!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Yippie-kai-yay :))))
- A. T.
NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team!
- AJ Batac :)
Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :)
- Dilip Dand
I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato.
- Miss Elle
Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target?
- travispuk
@ Travis: I was just wondering the same.
- Brian Chang
Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message?
- Jason Nunnelley
seriously useful.
- Calvin Ayre
I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users?
- Fleagle
this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done!
- K.D.
that is AWESOME!
- Lindsay
Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work!
- michael silverton
Kudos on the added features!
- Eric
可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。
- 老巫
哇塞，这个强的。 I like it.
- xia
Wow. Just wow. Thanks.
- Laura Norvig
Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>.
- ianf ⌘
Oh, very awesome!
- Scott Magdalein
It's *machine code*.
- Karl Knechtel
Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
- Chris Charabaruk
So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :)
- Ahsan Ali
That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy...
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...)
- Özkan Altuner
Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool!
- Özkan Altuner
Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please?
- Richard Walker
Must you force downloads on HTML files?
- Vezquex
This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity.
- Rick Cogley
Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start.
- Ubuntu101
Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast?
- Ubuntu101
Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit??
- Chris Loft
embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net)
- Vezquex
Thx! FF continues to rock :)
- Krishnamoorthy
why the limit on audio files?
- Tyler Gillies
Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format...
- Tyson Key
Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far.
- Tyson Key
wow :)
- Mucio
I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more?
- Dnl
anyone know the file size limit?
- Julian Seery Gude
My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
- Micah
FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means...
- Mitch
*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :)
- Susan Beebe
oh heck yes
- Shey
Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-(
- April
The Problem With Buying Clicks In Social Media http://www.mediapost.com/publica...
Jorge Gobbi liked this
We just launched a "Secret email address" service that makes it possible to post to groups anonymously from any email address. This is a bit of a power-user feature, but it's a very useful for automated posting from scripts, forwarding email (e.g. customer service email), etc.
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Here at the office, we use it to forward all of our mercurial changelog emails, server push notifications, etc to a private group. That way, we all see what's going on in real-time (thanks to the notifier: http://friendfeed.com/setting...), and can easily discuss them from the FriendFeed interface. To add a secret email address, click on "Import a service" in the "settings" dialog of any group. For regular posting, you should continue to use the normal email interface though (share@friendfeed.com or groupname@friendfeed.com, see http://friendfeed.com/share... for details). Thanks to Tudor for writing and launching this!
- Paul Buchheit
Shhh! This is very sekret!
- Andrew Trinh
Interesting. My secret FriendFeed toy.
- phil baumann
I'm in my Private Group, but for the life of me I cannot find this option. Wouldn't it be under Edit Settings?
- Nick in Manila
Ah. NOW I see it.
- Nick in Manila
I am loving this feature idea... Very savvy for business use. Thanks!
- Susan Beebe
Matthew: No. Your home feed only shows things that you're subscribed to. Of course, if you're a member of a group whose admin allows anonymous posting, and you have that group on your home feed, then the anonymous posts will show up there -- but then, you can always leave the group or remove it from your home feed.
- Tudor Bosman
oh this is genius. there's so many use cases that can leverage this. platform +1
- Sameer
Groups already allow "anonymous" posts -- if you (as an admin) add a service to a group, posts originating from that service will show as belonging to the room, not to any particular user. You can think of anonymous posts (whether imported from RSS services, or posted by email) as being the responsibility of the group admins -- it's their job to police them if they deem necessary.
- Tudor Bosman
I see this working for the Confessions room. What else?
- Josh Haley
Sounds like the email can be sent from any arbitrary email address, not necessarily one registered with FriendFeed for an account? So the secret really needs to be kept secret to valid potential posters only.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Logical Extremes: Yes, that is the point; it doesn't matter what address you send *from*. Sometimes you can't control the address that mail gets sent from. A few examples: your datacenter can notify you by email of any problems affecting your servers, but you'd prefer these notifications to go to a FriendFeed group. You are subscribed to a low-volume distribution list, but you'd rather...
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- Tudor Bosman
Paul has explained how we use this feature internally at FriendFeed. If one of us checks in a change (we use Mercurial for source control), Mercurial sends an email to a secret email address for a private group (that all FF engineers are subscribed to); the others see the change immediately, and we can discuss it in comments.
- Tudor Bosman
Cool! Very useful for room owners. If you don't have instructions, it's very hard to find. "Sekret"
- AJ Batac :)
LD: I don't understand. To which of my examples are you referring?
- Tudor Bosman
Oh yeah. Laughing uncontrollably. WOW.
- Webferret
It sounds like a pro-spam feature. Have you thought through all the consequences?
- Tim Tyler
Tim: the group admins should keep the address secret and only share it with trusted services. If the address gets leaked, then the group can get spammed, in which case the group admins can delete it or change it (which prevents all future mail to the old address from being posted to the group). We believe it to be reasonably secure, but please let us know if you notice any problems.
- Tudor Bosman
Matthew: :)
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, you said: "posts originating from that service will show as belonging to the room, not to any particular user". But the posts /do/ show up as belonging to the admin user in a _search result_.
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan, that's a bug that already existed with how searches handle imported content in groups (not specific to this release and already on our list, thanks).
- Dan Hsiao
LD: You're right, you can't reply from within FriendFeed. You could have the contact form send email to both the internal group and a regular email address, which you can then use to send a reply.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor: btw. regarding mercurial, what's your experience using mercurial in friendfeed vs perforce in google?
- Amund Tveit
Tudor - what I really like is the business use cases you're laying out here, including your own internal engineering ones. Good stuff, as my e2.0 buddy Sameer above says.
- Hutch Carpenter
using this feature to post blog uptime statistics for several blog to blog owners
- Jeroen De Miranda
Its a good feeling when you know that the people behind a certain product know what there doing. Dont we FF Team?
- Webferret
Use case? How can one use the best readily filtering system available (Gmail filters) with best of breed group collaboration (Friendfeed). This is GOING to become the best in its class. I can drop so many business tools(that i pay for) for just FF Private rooms
- Webferret
Already is Webferret, already is...
- Chris Heath
sweet
- D Lets
Turn Gmail Into Your Personal Nerve Center http://www.micropersuasion.com/2007...
- Webferret
Amund: Mercurial works. We use it in a mostly-centralized setup (one central repo that we sync to very often). Can't really compare performance -- our repositories are tiny compared to Google's. We can take this offline if you'd like to discuss this in more detail.
- Tudor Bosman
That's a great add-on. Slowly, FF is going to be our "life center"
- Özkan Altuner
So this is kinda like when you posted the "advert"? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: not quite; the "shameless self-promotion" showed up as an entry in your home feed, without any user (or group) name attached to it. Entries imported into a room (via RSS or via email) show up as being in that room.
- Tudor Bosman
OK, Tudor. I'll give it a test later. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is a cool idea, but it only seems to import the mail subject title only. Is that right, if so, how do we get the content of the mail in, or is it not meant to do that?
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
Keith: it works for me. The subject goes in the main post (FF thread title?) and the message appears as a comment to the thread. Maybe you are sending an HTML e-mail?
- alieb
Cheers alieb, I just tested it by forwarding the first mail in my inbox and that didn't show anything up. Creating a mail and adding some text to the mail body works correctly. Thanks for the help.
- Keith Bennett
I just figured out a new use for this feature and it goes in line with Kevin Rose's idea for an Open Source security system. http://www.facebook.com/video... He was talking about having a neighborhood watch like program. Well each neighborhood can have a private room here in FF. If someone tripped an alarm in your house, it would send an email to the secret email for the private group and everyone in the group could be notified via email,IM,SMS,etc.
- BRҰANSAҰS
I think this secret address should be reminded somewhere in each group settings window.
- Zackatoustra
@Bryan Lee. shhhh lol
- Webferret
Zacaktoustra: group admins will see the address in the "services" window (click "add/edit" under Services in the settings dialog). Other group members will only see the words "secret email address", as, well, the address is supposed to be secret and only visible to admins.
- Tudor Bosman
could we have this for home feeds as well? some 3rd party messaging services will send from various addresses. great feature, thanks!
- Mike Chelen
I'm blonde so maybe need to tell you what I'd like to do and see if it works: I would like to have my ATT mail, my Yahoo mail AND my gmail all feed into a FF room so I could read it all at the same time (ATT and Yahoo are partnered so you can't sign into both at the same time. Both go through Yahoo's sign in page.) Is this possible to create? Having ATT and Yahoo feed into my Gmail through FF would be okay as well, btw. I get FF feeds through GMail already.
- Molly
Molly, what you're asking for is totally unrelated to this thread. If i was you I would set up gmail to receive the mail from your other email addresses. It's a bit complicated but can be done. Try reading this lifehacker gmail article first: http://lifehacker.com/374610...
- Chris Heath
Well said Heath
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Heath, thanks. I told you I'm blonde. :-P I tried your suggestion already and so far haven't been able to hook ATT and Yahoo to my Gmail (both being POP accounts) w/o paying extra. Will work on it again later. It's not THAT much trouble to check all three accounts from different sources.
- Molly
from email
Molly, another option (if att offers it - i know yahoo does) is to set up forwarding so the email is automatically forwarded from ATT and Yahoo to your gmail address. Then once in gmail you can use filtering (by the to: field) to separate out the emails
- Chris Heath
I think that's the paid service from Yahoo. At least it was when I investigated it a few months ago. Thanks for thinking about it for me, though. Us techblondes need all the help we can get re: setting stuff up. I'm kind of on hold right now anyway (trying to recover my domain name and identity....... long story and boring to all but me). Molly
- Molly
from email
Wow! This is awesome! Thanks.
- Svartling
cool neat improvements, gotta like this shit.
- Dorothy Mercredi
Ahmadinejad Re-Elected; Protests Flare - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
Javid★, stanjourdan, Iván Abrego and 89 other people liked this
"The authorities declared Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the official winner of Iran’s presidential election on Saturday afternoon, but opposition candidates and their supporters insisted the election had been stolen, and riot police officers used batons and tear gas against thousands of demonstrators in the worst street protests in a decade."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
its a shame
- Onur Baykal
could these lead to a revolution?
- Onur Baykal
We haven't free access to friendfeed.com now. It is banned by tehran regime.
- آدمیرال
amiran1, how can you get to FriendFeed if it is blocked?
- Rochelle
Do you think the elections are legitimate?
- Onur Baykal
This is really a shame. :/
- Obayoo
@Onur That's the question, isn't it? I don't know the answer, but it's crazy to have such riots result from a legitimate election, if it was one.
- Chris Lasher
@Mohammad: What facts? Really great to have someone "on location" who doesn't work for usual news media! Thanks for your insights!
- Holger Eilhard
And when there were protests in the US when the election was stolen in 2000, did they change anything? No. And here too there were obvious facts (not the least of which was the beginning of part 2 of the then-new president's father's war in Iraq) It is truly a shame that Iran hasn't apparently had fair and free elections, but really, where are such things held?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
guruvan, are you suggesting that the election of President Obama wasn't fair and free?
- Akiva
Ah shit...
- Mike Nayyar
Akiva: I specified the year 2000, so in that statement, no I did not suggest that. I suggested that the election of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney was not fair and free. (But, I have my opinions on the current administration as well)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
So you're not talking about the current election in Iran, then, but an election held in 2000?
- Akiva
I am suggesting that elections in most places are not fair and free, so we should not be surprised that an election in Iran was not either.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I hear beeping.
- Akiva
Beeping?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I really wish my friend Key would come back home from Iran.
- Kay Designer
It's very unfortunate that Iran feels the need to block communications. This is, to me, far worse than stealing an election.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Oh NOooo!!! very sad
- Susan Beebe
I'm really impressed with you guys, Mohommad. No matter who gets elected it's people like you who have the power to change the country and your future. Hope things calm down over there and more innocents don't get hurt or worse.
- vijay
Mohammad - Please be eyes and ears for us while you can. I heard alot mobiles were not working anymore. and I cant get any email in to Key at all. (2 months now!)
- Kay Designer
:( That truly is sad. Violence is always an unhappy thing in my book. I'm very glad that you can still communicate with us Mohammad. Thank you.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Shouldn't this say "allegedly" re-elected?
- Christopher Harper
a bunch of dramatic photos and video here: http://friendfeed.com/sober
- Cee Bee
Although I didn't vote Ahmadinejad but I approve official results. The election was really clear. These are young people who hate Ahmadinejad and can't accept the results.
- Hassan
I'm agree with Hassan too ;)
- I /-\li
Mohammed. NIce to hear from you! What I meant is. Her box is on Yahoo (which is based in USA or Europe(?). But, I don't think she can get to it anymore from Tehran (is Yahoo blocked there?) Otherwise I would have heard from her by now. Once the mobile lines clear, I'll try to reach her via cell... I just don't think this is her new number there...
- Kay Designer
Mohammad. Well if all else fails, I have you there to help me find her. Thanks again :-)
- Kay Designer
Mohammad - Many thanks! Keyv is my god-sister, so that means alot to me! Main thing is, right now today, for YOU to take good care of yourself! Don't get hit with a rock or bottle like that photo above - if things get going real crazy!
- Kay Designer
"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do" - attributed to Joseph Stalin ( via http://www.worldofquotes.com/author... )
- ianf ⌘
so very true ianf... :(
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sorry world, we tried. The oppression and injustice imposed on the Iranian people for the past 30 years needs to stop! Ahmadinejad doesn't represent the will, desire or future of Iran and Iranian people.
- Kasra
@Kasra "the oppression and injustice imposed on the Iranian people..." - you forgot to insert "self-imposed." Not salting the wounds, but this isn't the first time in history when the oppressed sought release from one kind of injustice/ despotism in another kind, the self-imposed religious one, thus far more insidious than the former.
- ianf ⌘
better than no elections, right... I never take a chance to vote. you know, I'm Chinese.
- xia
No, I didn't, and you're wrong. It is IMPERATIVE that people vote, even in rigged conditions. 20 years ago, when your fellow countrymen were being massacred in Tiananmen Square, on the very same day, 4th of June 1989, the Poles voted the communist system out even though the election rules agreed in talks with non-parlamentary opposition/ the Solidarity trade unions and Church...
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- ianf ⌘
I'm relieved that my country doesn't recognize the outcome. I hope that something can come of that to effect some sort of change in yours. :( I hope that this change can be one of peace.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It's very disturbing to me when not only is an election apparently stolen but the opposition leaders are placed under arrest. The arrest certainly lends credibility to the belief that the election was rigged.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yes Muhammad, I think the election was free and clear. We had a very hot election you're angry now and I understand you. Hope things calm down in next few days.
- Hassan
It's hard to tell with the jumble of second hand sources pouring in whether the election was rigged or not (and it will be very hard to tell unless something enormous comes forward). However, regardless of the election reliability, it is a bad sign for a free democracy in Iran to have politicians arresting their opposition.
- Brandon Titus
Yes Brandon, Unfortunately It's a bad sign...
- Hassan
Good to know. I just hope everything is sorted out and Iran can be a stable democracy in the future. The results look fishy to me and the reports of arrests and heavy handed action by the government don't help the case. Hopefully stability will come soon.
- Brandon Titus
problem with the elections is that simple majority wins (e.g. 50%+1 vote); but in cases of narrow elections minority is actually more powerful (in terms of aggressiveness, effectiveness and so on; i.e. it leads to instability); i think landslide (like 2/3) majority must decide an election - if there's 50/50, then both candidates have to withdraw ... (or something needs to be done about this in any case)
- minus-one
While I cannot confirm the ownership of the twitter account, a tweet was sent allegedly form house arrest. In many other cases a single tweet has carried a great deal of truth and weight - but we shall see. It's hard, though, to make up 100s of arrests. This seems to be something that could be verified
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
LAT Middle East Bureau Chief http://borzou.com is filing frequent analysis updates from Tehran at http://latimes.com/iran
- Andrew Nystrom
Thanks, Andrew.
- Anne Bouey
AlertThingy for Friendfeed hits the iPhone
americanm, Jorge Gobbi, Curt Mercadante and 20 other people liked this
I feel it's a good effort, but judging by the standards set by Tweetie and Twitterrific, we could either have a long way to go with this or could see more developers jumping in this untapped area.
- Rohit
Thanks for the tip. How do you think it compares to BuddyFeed?
- Sterling Zumbrunn
Haven't tried Buddyfeed yet.
- Steve Rubel
from email
I've used both, and I think Buddyfeed edges it at the moment for features - but AlterThingy is quicker.
- Ian Betteridge
Well I love it!! but I am a little biased :)
- Jeremy Baines
What's wrong with FF on Safari via the iPhone?
- Jason Hansen
can you see your friend lists?
- metalerik
Yup!
- Jeremy Baines
sweet. one more thing... are the images inline?
- metalerik
Nope, but you see an icon telling you which items have images
- Jeremy Baines
ok still looks really nice though. I'm going to check it out. Do you have plans to put the images inline? It's one of the major reasons I like FF.
- metalerik
Will take a look and what is involved in adding that option when I sit down to dev again :)
- Jeremy Baines
no sitting! wait, I mean no standing! Just bought it. It's pretty sweet! It's clean and has a nice small but readable font so more fits on the page. Plus, the images are only one fast tap away. May be the better way to do it (for speed) and later maybe have as a pref? No crashes so far either ;)
- metalerik
Looks great but how can you refresh your feed inline?
- Rob Enslin
from Alert Thingy
Prob should add that in the next release :)
- Jeremy Baines
I prefer the FriendFeed iPhone web page to either BuddyFeed or AlertThingy, it shows the post comments inline. Comments are one of the big features of FF, so having to tap tap tap between posts just to read comments is too much tapping.
- John Francis
AlertThingy just stopped working for me. It shows it's splash screen then terminates. I have rebooted my iPhone and the problem persists.
- John Francis
Some people experiencing this problem are telling me that if you uninstall and reinstall it works. i am looking into this issue, it is only happening for a few people
- Jeremy Baines
@Jeremy - that seems to have worked. Thanks.
- John Francis
Twitter Trips on Its Rapid Growth - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
Juvenn Woo, Hutch Carpenter, Angus Burton and 6 other people liked this
"In an interview Friday, Mr. Williams, Twitter's chief executive, acknowledged that the start-up's small size, coupled with its rapid growth, has been constraining. "For the entire [three-year] history of the company, most of the resources have gone to managing growth and that is still the case," he says, adding that Twitter could be around 90 employees by the end of 2009. "If it weren't growing nearly as fast, we would be building a lot more things.""
- Atul Arora
from Bookmarklet
Where are they getting the 32 million from?
- Jesse Stay
That's why i like FF's slow growth approach, they seem to develop new ideas, apps, and connections before you can think of them.
- SteVe C
Source seems to be comScore. I believe Nielsen/Compete numbers are in same neighborhood.
- Atul Arora
Is that just traffic, or actual active users? Interesting...and their user ids seem to support that - I've been watching the user id #s for awhile and they're much higher than the lower numbers other sources have been giving Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from email
This is comScore's numbers and this is unique visitors to twitter.com, there would be the others who come to all the AIR and Ground support and surely there cannot be a variation in that esp as comScore pretty much tallies the FB count also. so they have done 20X in one year.
- Amit 'zyaada' Mittal
This probably makes large companies like Yahoo and Google smug with scalability built into their infrastructure and envious of the exponential growth of something that Biz and Ev explicitly decided to develop on their own.
- no name
Last.fm’s User Data is Useless to the RIAA | TorrentFreak - http://torrentfreak.com/lastfms...
Daniel Rowley, Florin Grozea, s3b and 5 other people liked this
"In February TechCrunch rumored that Last.fm had ratted out its users to the RIAA. Now they have another source claiming data was shared with the music industry group, including IP addresses. Without going into the validity of these allegations, we’d like to point out that this data is completely useless to the RIAA, from a legal point of view."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
I disagree that it's useless, though maybe impractical. The last.fm data could easily help the RIAA find leakers (who's gonna intentionally mess up their MP3 metadata to make a legit track look like a leaked track?), but could also corroborate torrent logs AND help to isolate an individual at an IP address (making headway against one of the legal defenses).
- Tinfoil 2.0
Useful or useless, this will kill Last.fm one way or the other.
- Threepwood
If it's true.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I dont think it needs to be true Steven....it's FUD and the average Joe is in no position to know either way. If in doubt what is the logical course of action? Stop using the service!
- Threepwood
I'll believe it when it's substatiated by someone other than an anonymous tipster that TechCrunch got, which is what they now have again. For all I know, this could be part of a disinformation campaign. I can't change what the average Joe believes, but I can make the distinction myself.
- Steven Perez
from IM
True-nuff, everyone makes their own choice and there is no way to know where the truth is. However, my point is that some of the mud will stick and have a negative impact on Last.Fm.
- Threepwood
That's possible, but I don't think it will impact it enough to hurt Last.fm. If one is already predisposed to not use the service, then this certainly change their mind. And if one really likes the service, then this won't change their mind over much, either, especially if they get all of their music legally.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Watch TV And Video With StreamTorrent - http://www.ghacks.net/2009...
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Daniel Rowley, Artyom, ЯIИGҜIИG and 23 other people liked this
"StreamTorrent is a free software program for the Windows operating system that allows users to watch - and stream - TV and videos over the Internet. The relatively unknown application provides access to hundreds of popular TV stations including BBC One, BBC Two, ESPN 360, Fox Sports 2, ESPN and HBO. The software uses P2P technology that is popular in similar applications like TVU Player which means that the computer’s bandwidth is used to stream the contents to other users."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Wow, this will be great come college football season with ESPN360.
- Arawak
Amen, especially in view of the fact that I prolly won't be able to afford ESPN Gameplan this coming season (economy = job search SUCKS :( )
- LANjackal
Played around with it for a few mins before uninstalling. Not worth it IMO
- LANjackal
Concept was good though, haven't installed it yet but is downloaded. What was the uninstalling point? I see here it looks like all those Satellite TV for PC apps by the Windows Media streaming screenshot. Quality's poor usually. I'd stick with http://icefilms.info for my streaming scheduled DivX views then. ;p
- Zu from AOD
@Zu: I get the feeling I'm not gonna use it. I uninstall apps I don't use.
- LANjackal
No MAC application for this?
- Amani
@Amani: Yeah it's called Windows. Apparently you can run it using Parallels or VirtualBox :P jk no I've never heard of similar app for Macs
- LANjackal
Looks interesting, too bad there is no Mac OS version. I'll try it out, but booting into Windows for one program isn't worth it.
- Antoniu
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