"PageRank assigns a reputation score to the URL where content is published. This makes it a great fit for content that stays put in one location. However, evolving content distribution via blogs, RSS, guest columns, and syndication are a challenge for PageRank. Tweets, retweets, micropublishing, ratings, and comments - even bigger problems. The solution lies in associating reputation with the identity of the author - a PageRank for People."
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
Reminds me of "wuffie" where personal reputation replaces monetary wealth in Cory Doctorow's DOWN AND OUT IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM.
- Liam Watts
I love that comic. Makes me chukle every time.
- Roberto Bonini
Doctors are catching on to this and have slipped a "patient will not post online comments about doctor" clause into their standard forms. You don't even know you've agreed to it unless you read the whole thing, and who does that?
- jjjobst
Desirable, but immensely difficult: how do you define a "person" for rank purposes? We are talking here about a huge collection of disparate things. And, what if, contrary to the online reputation, the real reputation sucks?
- Nikos Anagnostou
Agree that we need a soltion for this but a Nikos touches upon is need to agree definitions of scope. Others male valid point also some further discussion and thinking required.
- Najeeb Mirza
PersonRank tied to (possibly) OpenId anyone? ...Everytime I click „Like“ FF brain is assigning whuffie to the author of a message.
- Mindaugas Dagys
Doesn't Googles Sentiment Analysis a step in the right direction? It infers sentiment to rank http://www.seobythesea.com/... and “service,” “value,” and “general comments.” Aspects are defined in one of Google’s papers on sentiment analysis as “properties of an object that can be rated by a user.” Unfortunately, Google is attempting to Patent this process.
- Greg
Yup. This made me think of "Down and out in the Magic Kingdom" too. If you haven't read it, it's worth it.
- Chad McCoskey
I would say not desirable - relevance is highly relative when it comes to people, and frankly anything that ranks people by the noise they make online and how many people they can get to claim they are great... will produce the wrong kind of behaviour
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I agree with Joelle, mostly. The exceptions would be for trolls and spammers -- it's too much work to be on a constant lookout for trolling, and I'd really like to have an automatic metric which would enable me to automatically filter out such rubbish.
- Nathaniel Thurston
leo: yes indeed, and such a content filter would work well by taking into account the distance through the social graph between the author and each reader, rather than using a fixed measure of the author's reputation for all readers.
- Bob Hitching
from fftogo
But I think it's more fair to rank a document, than a person. This is something we shouldn't do at all.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Nathaniel - I might agree for spammers, but "trolls" are a difficult thing. Many game changing people were labelled troublemakers first, today we'd call them trolls...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hi Guys - I'm the author of the original article. One thing to keep in mind is that this system could be made topic sensitive. We'd be looking at total contribution/reputation for each person for a specific social graph relating to a specific topic. Is some ways this would be like mapping the Hilltop/HITS algorithms used in algorithmic text search to the social space. The similarity is...
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- Marshall Clark
I've been a volunteer musician for the Canadian Armed Forces, off and on, for 20 years or so... but I never properly enlisted (poor choices in the 90s lol)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Isn't James (Collide) in the army? Haven't seen him around lately though
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, yes! IIRC, he is deployed somewhere right now. Edit: Looks like he posted as recently as Monday. Reading his feed, it looks like he's at Norfolk Naval Base - http://friendfeed.com/colide81
- Rochelle
7.5 years in the Air Force...heh just saw that Rochelle already named me. Thanks :) And thanks to all who are serving and who have ever served to protect our freedoms.
- Alex Scoble
""Dollhouse" is closing its doors at Fox. The network has canceled Joss Whedon's cult fave, which in May beat the odds with a second-season pickup despite low ratings. The sci-fi series, which is filming episode 11, is expected to finish its 13-episode order. After some dismal performance in the fall, despite the ratings bumps "Dollhouse" got from DVR viewing, Fox benched the show for the November sweep after four episodes. It is not clear whether Fox will air the remaining episodes starting Dec. 4 as planned."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Well, Joss, I hope you've learned your lesson: don't make any more shows for Fox!
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
Oh well. I enjoyed the show but it had its flaws. I never got comfortable with Dushku's acting or the grauitous shots of Actives.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
haha. I knew that would be cancelled. First episode, it just seemed messed up. *Back to Lost....*
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
:( son of a bitch...just yeah. mother fucking son of a bitch. (and people...the first five episodes sucked...if you left before it got better...your loss)
- A. (Girl Entropy)
I generally really like Joss and I tend to follow Mutant Enemy staffers around from show to show, but I really couldn't get into Dollhouse. There were a few good episodes towards the end, but the pacing was all off for me. I expected more.
- joey
Knew this was going to happen from the beginning... One: Its Fox, hence they fuck with schedules all the damn time. Two: Its a SciFi. Fox + Scifi = "This dog won't hunt." Three: Its Joss Whedon. When you put Fox + Joss Whedon SciFi = Not going to last at all. When will Joss learn that Fox is a horrible Production partner?
- CW™
let's just hope that Joss takes the lumps, and then finishes the story online. Because seriously? If I can't see the lead up to Epitaph 1, I am going to be very unhappy.
- A. (Girl Entropy)
Maybe he'll get to move to another network.
- joey
I will miss the show. I have to say Fox gave it every chance, this time around. The renewal for season 2 was unexpected given how low the ratings were.
- Stephen Mack
They did their best to make sure that it withered on the vine...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Oh well. Can't wait to see what Joss has in store with his next Fox show...since he never leaves that company.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Jon, he had a contract with them. It may be over now. I can't remember what I read about it. Yay for useless comments.
- joey
When will HBO or Showtime just pick up a dark sex show and put Whedon in charge of it? Think how much better Dollhouse would of been with more adult content?
- CW™
I always figured Fox is the only network that will give Joss the time of day. Surely he's not going to them because he expects great things...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Dollhouse's biggest problem was season one. The good episodes in S1 and all of S2 were all character driven for characters I never really gave two craps about, and still don't. :(
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
DJP, I think Joss actually *does* get interest from other networks. Although the fans can't forgive Fox for past transgressions, it seems Joss was willing to. When he talks about the people he made the deal with, he talks with respect. The problem is that in the industry one doesn't always get to continue working with the same players you made the deal with. I came to like Dollhouse...
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- Spidra Webster
Yeah, whatever unholy contract Whedon has with Fox needs to be broken and right now. He can't keep working for a network that kneecaps him every time he comes up with an advanced concept that entails more than a little thought.
- Steven Perez
Just read that it's not "cancelled" per say. Fox stressed that it wasn't. They're just capping the second season at 13 episodes. It's still going to air all of them too. It doesn't look good for the show though.
- James Ferguson
Deserves it for killing Kitty Pryde in a truly awful story, plus he's crap!
- Simon Curran
James: I read that, too. That is press agent speak for "cancelled". You don't cap episodes of a show you want to keep around, especially one with an arc spanning the season.
- Steven Perez
*waits to see if Joss will comment on Whedonesque*
- joey
I think Dusku was the one that has the contract. I think Joss is free to go with the show.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Steven, sometimes I hate being optimistic. :(
- James Ferguson
Regardless of whomever may be to blame for the show's flaws, I will always believe that DOLLHOUSE was doomed to failure before it ever got started. And that's a real shame, considering the level at which it asked us to think.
- Steven Perez
Update: Joss Whedon posted this comment over at Whedonesque (thanks for the heads up, Bonnie!): mm. Apparently my news is not news. I don't have a lot to say. I'm extremely proud of the people I've worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you'll agree in the coming months. I'm grateful that we got to put it...
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- Matthew DeVries
sad to see another Whedon show die an early death. at least he knows when it's ending so he can give it a proper send-off.
- Nathan Chase
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet
- Janet
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby.
- Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
pffft. Those who pit Sesame Street monsters against one another do not understand the spirit of the show; therefore, your argument is invalid.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Does Elmo like triangles as much as Telly? I THINK NOT. Therefore, Telly > Elmo.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ALL SUGAR AND SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE. Argue that, and let's see how mean you really wanna be. In the meantime, my head hurts so discuss this amongst yourselves. You can summarize it for me later.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :)
- Sean McBride
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond.
- Jimminy
This is a point that can never be proved, nor disproved until all but one of us are dead.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
So... it's kind of like a "tontine" but with a pretty weak payoff?
- Mark Jepsen
Hmmm, actually, it only needs to continue until Steven Perez is dead (of very old age, i of course hope). Our victory is guaranteed. Of course, if friendfeed gets eaten by fb, it's just going to be a race to get the last comment in before the site goes down.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status.
- Jimminy
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question.
- L Stephen Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want.
- Jimminy
Steven, I'm sure that not even you would resort to cheating to get the last word. I vote we just find the comment limit. It's gonna be a number ending in '0'
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think friendfeed only put the extra "Add comment" link at the bottom of threads because of this specific thread. It took me a full 20 seconds to scroll from one end of it to the other.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post?
- Mike Nencetti
Are you guys still trying to win?
- Steven Perez
from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments...
- Joe....
from iPod
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Now that you've nearly reached 1100 comments, I realized that I hadn't officially "liked" this yet! Error rectified, though you're clearly a comment whore, you show great panache while doing so!
- Mark Jepsen
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Eventually, the whole thread will go backwards to the beginning.
- WorldofHiglet
That sounds like more fun than I imagine you wanted it to.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad.
- Steven Perez
from IM
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :)
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Suzezanne, I think Quorn is made of fungus, which I also don't eat.
- Rochelle
Yeah, Quorn freaks me out. Plus a lot of people in Europe have gotten sick off the stuff.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wikipedia indicates that there are microscopic fungi that grow in the form of multicellular filaments called hyphae, and that these multicellular filamented fungi are called molds, or moulds. The other kind of microscopic fungi , that grow as single cells, are called yeasts. Qorn is reportedly a filamentous fungus called Fusarium venenatum, so Qorn is both a mold and a fungus. All molds...
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- SuezanneC Baskerville
Suezanne, all the same, it's too fungus/mold/yeast-ish for me.
- Rochelle
I used to love watching Parking Wars back when I used to be up all night long with Audrey. It was like crack.
- Rochelle
I was going to watch Iron Man, but I forgot Glee was on tonight, so Parking Wars it is, with an episode of Medium. And dinner was a ham/turkey club with bacon, swiss and cheddar from the Honeybaked store. NOM. No donut (but I did get a chocolate chip cookie). Feeling loads better than I did earlier. And Ro, PW is the BEST. I love the people getting their cars out of the impound.
- Derrick
They'd be better if they were nuclear batteries.
- Maxamad
Joelito thinks everything is run with batteries. When his kideo player didn't work he figured it had batteries, thus "the internet has big batteries"
- Michelle Martinez
'Save the Deli: In Search of Perfect Pastrami, Crusty Rye, and the Heart of Jewish Delicatessen' by David Sax -- latimes.com - http://www.latimes.com/enterta...
"The wandering of the Jews is frozen in the marble of the corned beef on rye. The fall of the Temple, the exile, life in the ghetto, reliance on the cheapest meat and the ensuing need to tenderize and smoke and spice, the crossing to the New World -- it all culminates in the towering sandwich you find at the Carnegie in New York, Junior's in L.A., Manny's in Chicago. Every deli is a synagogue. What remained when the kingdom was smashed and the faithful sent a-wandering. In his deeply satisfying new book "Save the Deli: In Search of Perfect Pastrami, Crusty Rye, and the Heart of Jewish Delicatessen," David Sax sets out to tell this story one city, one deli, one tradition at a time, traveling from New York to San Francisco to Los Angeles, speaking to deli men, eating smoked meat, working as a cutter at Katz's on Houston Street ("Like snowflakes, no two pastramis are exactly alike, sometimes the flesh would be buttery soft, with very few sinews to impede my carving, but often I'd cut...
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- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"For historical reasons, Jews are obsessed with the fall of temples, and the aftermath of Diaspora, memory and pain. Two such disasters echo through this book: the fall of the 2nd Avenue Deli, which went down in a moment, like a collapsing star, leaving a black hole on the Lower East Side of Manhattan ("The two-foot-high Yiddish- inspired letters of the . . . sign lay dismantled on the...
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- RAPatton
I can smell it now..............it was the best going into a Jewish or Italian and as the first smell hit you and as I am typing my mouth is watering................mmmmmmmmmmm
- VAL D.
The picture of that pastrami is total NOMMERS!!!
- Helen Sventitsky
I have always found pastrami to be the most sensual of the salted, cured meats.
- Ha3rvey (more more more)