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Mad Dog Palin--The scariest thing about John McCain's running mate isn't how unqualified she is - it's what her candidacy says about America : Rolling Stone - http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...
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WOW...This is not just another article digging at palin - it is THE article digging at palin and her 'cultural' significance.
- Anna Haro
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- Bren, Not Grinchy
"The great insight of the Palin VP choice is that huge chunks of American voters no longer even demand that their candidates actually have policy positions; they simply consume them as media entertainment, rooting for or against them according to the reflexive prejudices of their demographic, as they would for reality-show contestants or sitcom characters. Hicks root for hicks, moms for moms, born-agains for born-agains."
- Anna Haro
The truly disgusting thing about Sarah Palin isn't that she's totally unqualified, or a religious zealot, or married to a secessionist, or unable to educate her own daughter about sex, or a fake conservative who raised taxes and horked up earmark millions every chance she got. No, the most disgusting thing about her is what she says about us: that you can ram us in the ass for eight...
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- Anna Haro
"Democracy doesn't require a whole lot of work of its citizens, but it requires some: It requires taking a good look outside once in a while, and considering the bad news and what it might mean, and making the occasional tough choice, and soberly taking stock of what your real interests are."
- Anna Haro
See, I believe that as a citizen you have the responsibility to pay attention to the people who will represent you and the laws they enact in your name. But with poor reporting and politicians doing so much behind closed doors, there's a dumbing down of American culture that's acceptable. How many people have you talked to who seem to have an opinion they want to spout on politics and in the same breath state proudly, "Politics bores me." or even worse, "All politicians are the same."?
- Admiral Anika
"And none of it matters, so long as you remember a few months before Election Day to offer them a two-bit caricature culled from some cutting-room-floor episode of Roseanne as part of your presidential ticket. And if she's a good enough likeness of a loudmouthed Middle American archetype, as Sarah Palin is, John Q. Public will drop his giant-size bag of Doritos in gratitude, wipe the Sizzlin' Picante dust from his lips and rush to the booth to vote for her."
- Trish R
And unfortunately, most of it is true (or at least I agree with it).
- Trish R
Wow, that's a hell of a picture. After reading the first two paragraphs, all I could think was how badly Matt Taibbi wants to be Hunter S. Thompson.
- Carla Thompson
Personally, I like Rolling Stone articles. But a word of caution.. they are always unapologetically extremely left-leaning.
- Phil G
hahaha...Carla, I thought the same thing.
- Anna Haro
The ironic thing is that the media is the primary cause of all this. Reducing politicians statements to sound bites where a few words from a larger speach can be spun one way or another. Politicians don't have to have grand ideas or positions, they just stick to hot button issues that play well on TV. Couple that with lobbyists and special interest groups to give them butt loads of...
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- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Of course J Phil. It's one perspective, one article, out of MANY.
- Anna Haro
I honestly don't know what the terms "left" and "right" mean anymore in American politics. I try to figure out who has the best command of the facts and who is making the most sense. This article makes a great deal of sense. (If I must define myself politically with a label, it would be "progressive libertarian.")
- Sean McBride
"Here's what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins "Country First" buttons on his man titties and chants "U-S-A! U-S-A!" at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas." - wow...harsh.
- Chris Hollander
Very interesting read, though disturbing. I put my money on McCain/Palin winning the election.
- Peter
@Sean McBride... right on.
- LogEx
Damn. He really worked up a lather on that one.
- Yolanda
hahaha @Yo
- Anna Haro
I don't think I'd talk with him too much at a party. ;)
- Yolanda
Classic: "After eight years of unprecedented corruption, incompetence, waste and greed, the party of Karl Rove understood that 50 million Americans would not demand solutions to any of these problems so long as they were given a new, new thing to beat their meat over."
- Raoul Pop
i agree for the most part
- Cee Bee
ps recession
- adolfo foronda
Oh wow, a coworker informed me about this article a few days ago!!
- Terence
Taibbi *nails it* w/ the consumption of candidates as media entertainment. Infotainment has utterly corrupted news such that they are largely indistinguishable now. A huge disservice to the populace. And, of course, it results in this insane Reality TV show in front of us.
- Ayşe E.
wow..such poignant words. The article still resonating even after reading it through.
- Alan Le
Why is the entire country not going, "WTF? You can't find a person more qualified in the entire Republican party? REALLY?!?!" Her selection was condescending to our entire citizenry, and everyone seems to be rolling with it.
- Robert Fischer
Why aren't more Republican women outraged that the party thinks so little of women that when they feel the need to add a vagina to the ticket, they don't give a damn about whether she's actually qualified?
- Trish R
why aren't they more outraged? because they're living vicariously via the pit bull. they see her and say, 'she's just like me'. but prettier and i bet you they aren't willing to admit that. so they over-identify with her and i'm left saying, 'yea, but i wouldn't vote you president of a committee of 2.'
- Admiral Anika
Liked only because of the picture, not because I have any interest in US politics. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
"But watching Palin's speech, I had no doubt that I was witnessing a historic, iconic performance. The candidate sauntered to the lectern with the assurance of a sleepwalker — and immediately launched into a symphony of snorting and sneering remarks, taking time out in between the superior invective to present herself as just a humble gal with a beefcake husband and a brood of healthy,...
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- Roberto Bonini
"The rest of Palin's speech was the same dog-whistle crap Republicans have been railing about for decades. Palin's crack about a mayor being "like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities" testified to the Republicans' apparent belief that they can win elections till the end of time running against the Sixties. (They're probably right.)"
- Roberto Bonini
dear god, if you exist and hear prayers, please please, let there be some notion of civility return to this country in my lifetime. a man.
- Nathan Eckenrode
If you *had* to use Facebook instead of FriendFeed what would you change about Facebook? And what are the pros and cons of Facebook as it stands now?
John E. Bredehoft, Araceli, Patrik Johansson and 39 other people liked this
What features would you change/remove/add to make it like FriendFeed or generally improve it? Of course we'd like the community spirit and the users from FF on FB but technically what needs amending to FB for you?
- Kol Tregaskes
The main thing, of course, is the openness of the community here and being able to see and comment on just about anything. That's something I can't really see Facebook implementing, unless they did a total overhaul of their system and philosophy.
- Grey Drane
I already use FB a lot now, 99% of my friends I know IRL, as opposed to here and Twitter. FF is awesome though but if they scraped FF and used the tech in upgrading FB I would love the search options in FF and how FF can take in data from a jubilee of other services.
- Christopher Annunziata
Oh, and they'd have to do something about all those damned apps. The vast majority of FB apps just annoy the crap out of me.
- Grey Drane
Maybe Facebook lite will address some of that. Who knows. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news...
- James Myatt
Thanks for the link, James.
- Kol Tregaskes
Open it up!
- Michael Fidler
Needs to be real time, mos def
- dkb
There has to be a messenger of facebook somewhere in side.
- Naimi
Aside from technical improvements to catch it up with FriendFeed, I'd add the ability to have pseudonymous accounts, just like Google, Twitter, FriendFeed, and most every other major website and social network allow. Let people keep the online identities they've been using for years
- LogEx
@Logical Extremes - Don't we sort-of have that now, thanks to the vanity URLs thing on Facebook? It's also possible to change the URL once, after setting it.
- Tyson Key
As I said here http://friendfeed.com/nathanc... it's mainly just pushing the likes and comments to the top of all of your friends' feeds - that's the core reason FriendFeed works as a conversation instigator.
- Nathan Chase
The spirit of 'You're just here to make us money'
- Johnny Worthington
I'd just turn it into friendfeed.
- Jim Hearts FF
Same here Jim, and Johnny.
- Tyson Key
Jim, yes please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The privacy policy, the member base, and an option to get a mature theme (no pokes, etc.)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I'm looking forward to the release of the beta privacy functions they are testing. It will make a big difference to be able to control what everyone gets to see. I'm hoping they incorporate friendfeed functionality in such a way that you can share things with a bookmarklet amongst other users in a controllable manner. It'd be good if you could share tech stuff with just your techy...
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- Dan Smith
from IM
Oh and I really hope they build an IM client like Friendfeed ones based on Google Talk protocol.
- Dan Smith
You should be able to follow anybody without them having to accept a "friend request". And there should be an equivalent to FriendFeed's imaginary friends (e.g. put any RSS feed you like into your stream)
- Pablo Melchor
+1 Pablo
- Tyson Key
*confused* facebook doesn't do what i (mainly)use friendfeed for ... so i wouldn't use it for that (it has almost none of the functionality)
- immaterial
++ Pablo - I'd also include groups, the way FF has them implemented /and/ content hiding/blocking in the same way FF has it implemented. If I could block activity from ALL applications, announcements, memes, etc., I would find FB so much more useful and interesting.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Opt-out of all apps and invitations ONCE!
- Wes Hoogenboom
@Tyson... No, vanity url aside, I can't be "Logical Extremes" on Facebook. Well, I could try, but why invest anything in that when they would delete my account once they got a whiff of it.
- LogEx
Aah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.
- Tyson Key
I agree Michael. Open it up! Allow feeds from other social networks. I feel like I'm in a closed box when I use FB. Allow users the ability to discover and follow without having to wait for a friend request. Users who don't want to be found should just change privacy settings. I'd also give users the ability to opt out of apps. I hate being forced into dealing with them. The amount invitations and requests are I receive are redonkulous, I'd like to be able to opt out of them as well.
- Brodie Beta
I would like to see a DMZ area where almost anything goes (as long as it is not illegal) that allows for free discussion and sharing of almost anything. (yes Porn)
- CW™
I'd remove all of the dorks, and replace them with all of the friends i've made on friendfeed.
- Iain Baker
I was just thinking that Iain. I should ask my FF buds to post their FB urls =)
- Brodie Beta
Kol has posted a thread for you to do just that Brodie.....hang on.....
- Iain Baker
Here you go! http://ff.im/6pQHM :))
- Iain Baker
I would change everything
- ★Kristy Kinderfresser
It's name would be "FriendFeed", it'd take the form of the service that we currently face, and we'd dance a happy dance, or something like that...
- Tyson Key
Complete segmentation and customization of how our friends are presented both to ourselves and to others we follow/follow us. I like you guys, and I like my real-life friends, but the two cannot collectively co-mingle and keep me comfortable. I'm not trying to hide anything or limit exposure in any way, but this is important to me. Today, with RL contacts in FB, this impedes somewhat my participation in that medium, and as a result increases my participation here.
- jcunwired
I don't want the Facebook toolbar at the top of the screen to follow me around to every outbound link I click on within Facebook.
- Brad Williamson
An "Edit" function. Bumping posts instead of polluting my inbox with notifications that someone liked or commented on a thread would be nice, too.
- Victor Ganata
Make it virtually identical to FF that way we lose nothiing............
- Kevin J Hatton
It's whole Ethics policy!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift +1 and its audience
- sofiagk
Oh yes, good points - I want to own my content, not some snot-nosed entrepreneur just out of high school ;) And, keep censorship reasonable. I don't mind a relatively clean environment, but removing pics of breastfeeding women? Give me a break!
- jcunwired
More feeds, public profiles (not pages), better bookmarklet (well FreindFeed's bookmarklet would do).
- Andrew Roche
So many things.....no waiting to follow someone, no applications, real time, and no more of those damn silly quizzes!
- Bonnie Foster
I must admit, I do like the way FB handles photos and birthday reminders. Past that, not much there I care about (aside from my friends and family) of course.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
See: http://friendfeed.com/faithx5.... My three biggest things were non-reciprocal friendship, actual real-time, and FoaF. Two of those things I think Facebook will never implement.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Remove Apps and Beacon. Then it will start being a little more useful and a LOT less annoying.
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
I don't even know where to start. I can't imagine that the current FF experience, as is, can be replicated in FB, as is. I'd rather just do without FF and look elsewhere.
- Neil Saunders
The "give up your friend's demographic info while annoying them" part.
- Mr. Gunn
+1 groups- enable a feed from the groups to the news feed.
- suelibrarian
Make it so your home feed could display only one list as default, so I could list the people who say things I'm interested in instead of the people who I'm friends with IRL but post useless stuff.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I have read many comments from people saying that they do not want to mingle their Facebook "real-life friends" (who may not share at all their "geeky interests") and their FriendFeed friends (whom they may not have met in person but who do share their interests). Maybe FriendFeed could become something like "Facebook Pro" (or whatever you want to call it), meaning it would be the more...
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- Pablo Melchor
More friend-of-friend stuff, more realtime, more filtering.
- Tristan Seligmann
Yeah real-time is really lacking there but it must be in the cards. The real-time pops you get a nice and I like that expandable chat pop-up too.
- Kol Tregaskes
If I HAD to use facebook instead of friendfeed. I would simply do without.
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Spin off FriendFeed into it's own company, then retire to Baja. Oh, wait, that's what I would do if I RAN Facebook.
- Steven Perez
Hehe, Steven.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe they should replace the Facebook management and product teams with the FriendFeed folks - I can see that creating a significant improvement. ;)
- Tyson Key
I've been using FB over FF the last couple days simply because of a possible merger. Plus, it does feel a little good inside to have rl friends in on the action for once and not have to get them to create a FF account. But I am not using FBs importing tools to bring it all in to FB. I don' t like that I can't make the imported stories private and I don't like that I can't include what I...
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- Araceli
I expressed my thoughts about this at the time of the acquisition, but now I'm rethinking my original thoughts and am writing a blog post (or perhaps several) about this. Note that a certain red-head will turn up in my discussion. I'll keep you...um..posted about this.
- John E. Bredehoft
will Twitter turn off full "firehose" access to FriendFeed this afternoon or will they wait until tomorrow morning? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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But what do friendfeed users get? I am not a fan of facebook, my family and friends are on facebook but they don't want to see what tech news I am discussing etc. if they close friendfeed down then great I will rebuild a new version :D It would be nice if they keep the 2 seperate and maybe share tech but I get the feeling friendfeed.com will just point to facebook in the end :(
- Darren Stuart
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Marshall, from a product perspective, what is Facebook really getting here? Can't they implement everything you outline on their own? Is this really a talent play for Facebook? Was it defensive (e.g., was Twitter looking at FF)? Regarding social networks, it seems to me that a range of flavors will emerge (completely private like geni.com to the public cross-pollinated fire hose of FriendFeed). All serve a valid purpose for different/overlapping audiences.
- tomturnbull
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
I can't help but think it's like a Betamax/VHS scenario. For those of us who remember when (and no, you wise guys, I don't mean 8 -track!) both platforms were good, they came out around the same time... and it can even be argued that Betamax had better quality. FF has more options, but... if the "people" elect Twitter the platform and use it, then ultimately, Friendfeed is the betamax. A great technology that withers. There are many platforms chasing the same fickle (?) audience.
- Jody Raines
Why would Twitter do that? It would be an idiotic move by Twitter, and force them into even further "walled garden" mode. Twitter needs to prove they're more open, not less - cutting off FriendFeed just removes them from becoming "the pulse of the internet". Not to mention I bet they have contractual obligations.
- Jesse Stay
"It would be an idiotic move by Twitter" -- Has that ever stopped them before?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I didn't say it wouldn't stop them. I only said it would be an idiotic move. :-)
- Jesse Stay
each user or group can be set as public or private in friendfeed this is closer to twitter permission system and would greatly improve facebook if implemented
- Mike Chelen
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
FriendFeed search sucks at picking up Tweets today. Something's happened.
- Nick in Manila
Apple store SF in middle of recession http://holykaw.com/apple-s...
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Not surprised after a year of poor customer service. Now about inventory mgt against repair & Apple-cough-Care
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
see HotCoffeeTheMovie.com- documentary on the impact of the McDonalds coffee case- the legend is wildly exaggerated compared to real case
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Look it another way, basically Facebook paid a lot of money for the friendfeed team to kick two million people in the crotch...I don't care how much money was on the table, I wouldn't do that deal. Would you?
Darren Heydon, Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF), Steven Perez and 19 other people liked this
But then you also don't know the in's and outs of it all...
- Rob Sellen :o)
With a family, student loans, this ecomony, in a heartbeat.
- Michael W. May
Hmmm $50 million. I don't think I would have to think about that for to long.
- Bill Heslin
I'd totally sell you all out in order to be able to retire. None of you would be scarred permanently.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
My guess is Facebook saw this as a way to improve the experience of its 200 or 300 million users (whatever the number is these days).
- Chris Baskind
+Michael
- Adrian
Everyone has a price. But it always sucks to be left holding the bag.
- Victor Ganata
For $50M? Ya, I'd do that deal, no question.
- Jason Wehmhoener
hey.. I woulda clicked a couple ads.. they just needed to be on here. :P
- Tim Hoeck
It depends if the choice is between that amount of money and no money at all and having to close the service anyway then yes probably. If I could happily survive while keeping the service independent no I would not sell out. But then big money does not appeal to me I prefer small money and freedom if I can.
- M F
$50 million is a ton of bread... of course I'd take it! But if I was FF talking to Facebook, I'd need at least $100 mill just to come to the table!
- Jim Hearts FF
I take one day off SM to do some work >>>>>>
- Jason Nunnelley
$50 million, 12 employees, 2-4 top dogs get more, still must pay off the initial investors (that's at least $5 million, maybe as much as $20, I haven't been following). That leaves, say, only $1 million each for the small dogs. After taxes... still worth it?
- LogEx
I'm actually impressed by Facebook's foresight. They're obviously not buying market share. This appears to be a smart deal on FB's part to secure some brains. And, FF definitely has some smart developers - speed, quality, great UI.
- Jason Nunnelley
...plus they have to either 1.)quit the biz with some sort of no-compete clause or 2.)work for facebook!
- Jim Hearts FF
I'd take $20MM from Google and be happy, but it would take $200MM from FB before I could be happy. There is nothing innovative or interesting about that service, it looks like Web 2.0 but it works like a Personalized Portal from 2000, I honestly don't understand how people became enthralled with it. I only know how it managed to become huge and that was allowing students to connect more easily.
- Jimminy
Looking over at my pile of bills that are two weeks late Logical Extremes...Personally I would say yes...but that's just me...$1 million would do wonders for me right now. But I'm not a developer that put all this time into the product, so I can't speak for them..Just speaking personally that I could live with that...lol
- Bill Heslin
And after you say no to FB, what exactly is your revenue plan?
- Michael W. May
Hell I would take that $1 ;million and have a helluva meetup in NYC hehehehe
- Bill Heslin
That's just it MWM, I think given the economy and how the competitive landscape has changed since FF began, the options were dwindling. I just wouldn't be too happy if I was one of the newer hires at FF.
- LogEx
They are buying a minor cult brand, some VERY engaged users, some rockin tech and, most importantly --- dominant street cred and a purchase point in true lifestreaming. If they paid $50mm it was a steal.
- Thom Kennon
Would they have sold to google though?? considering they left google...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, I don't know their histories, as to why they left, so I can't much say if they would or wouldn't have. I believe that if they left purely to found something by themselves and not because of a harsh work environment at Google or some other conflict with the corporate culture at Google, that it isn't to hard to imagine their return. If it was because of cultural or environmental differences then I don't know if they would go back. As I've said, I don't know which is the case, so I can't say for certain.
- Jimminy
Alex, you're making the assumption that Facebook users won't see any benefit from this deal. I would hazard a guess that most FFeeders are also Facebookers and therefore we're all going to see the benefit. And yes, I'd sell out for a million bucks, I'd pay off my debts and have $800k or so to live mortgage free.
- Kenton
Nowhere in this is an assumption that Facebook users won't see any benefit. But if friendfeed goes away, Facebook will never be able to replace the magic in a bottle that this site has right now...My crotch still hurts.
- Alex Scoble
So basically the moral of the story is don't trust your content with anyone who doesn't have a large, mainstream user base. Don't be an early adopter because you'll get screwed 9 times out of 10. Gee, wonderful.
Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF), Robert Kenney, Carlos Ayala and 32 other people liked this
YEAH. What made FF that Great? It's not the python (or even the C) code.
- directeur
Ah, but it really was the python and the c code. At least to the investors...which is the reason I bet that the creators started this project.
- Wizetux
Yeah Alex. Lesson learned.
- AJ Batac
directeur - its us.
- jcunwired
I'm not even sure it was the code. It looks like FB bought FF because of the people who created the code.
- Victor Ganata
for me it was how quickly I found like minded techs (and their friends)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Well put.
- Matthew DeVries
@Victor: that still leads back to the code, and their coding skills. For I highly doubt that FB wanted them to be marketing heads.
- Wizetux
I guess you can say that about cloud computing in general. Unless you host all your stuff, there's no guarantee anything will be there for years to come
- Rodfather
@Wizetux, that's the reason why I think FF as we know it is doomed. FB wanted the coding talent, not necessarily the code itself.
- Victor Ganata
Alex, talk that other Scoble into letting us crash in a section of the Warehouse 54 thing he's got going.
- Matthew DeVries
Alex, how were we screwed? Did we really gain so little? Did our conversations mean nothing to you? Did you learn nothing? Gain no smiles? Did FF not cheer you up sometimes? Even if you're "breaking up" with FF (or vice versa), it'd be like telling an ex-girlfriend, "You meant nothing to me. You were a waste of my time. I gave you everything, and you gave me nothing back." Do you really...
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- Adam Lasnik
Not to mention... what if FF has or will have spurred FB to be more open? To focus more thoughtfully on groups and sharing? Why would you begrudge that?
- Adam Lasnik
+1 RodFather... that's the key. people are uploading their content -- writings, photos, music -- and often that's the only copy. and it's not easy to get the stuff out. and it's scary to think what happens when inevitable storage failure occurs. like the guy said in Blade Runner: "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain." Social Media and cloud computing, each person needs to give these things careful consideration... continuously.
- .LAG liked that
Scary: when Facebook appropriates all the content you uploaded because it tends to do that in its ToS. "Oh, we may snip what you posted and use it in our ads without your permission or knowledge. Tee hee..."
- ωαřмaiden, MFA'd poet
Yup. It's not like money that is fungible. Personal content is your intellectual property. Keep it close or copyright it!
- laosan
You betcha! Their ToS against your rightful claim to bandwidth, time, effort & context to the "nexus" of your connections ... Oh, forgot, your hardware & access costs & the reality that your content is now repurposed without your control ... Sounds like users have a biz-model for themselves, no? & yet the boo-birds live in fantasy
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Don't trust your data to the Cloud, lesson learned </stern old man voice>
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
On the copyright issue, I am not a lawyer nor am I providing legal advice (expressly or implied), there is a clear open question whether the provders of these "services" own or instead need permission to trade in the currency of your "expressions" (Scott Beale - you out there? This is the question I asked you 18 mo ago - How do you feel now?)
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Life isn't permanent. At any moment you could die. At that point will it all have been a waste? Not all of life is investing for the future. Some of it is living in the present.
- Daniel Dulitz
Sometimes even a large, mainstream user base isn't enough. Look at CompuServe, which AOL finally axed not too long ago.
- John E. Bredehoft
or to retain ownership and control of your content.
- Anthony Citrano
Jim is wondering why we're not now seeing, nor have we in the past seen scads of FFers inviting their FB friends over here.
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Because my FB is full of people I barely talked to 15 years ago and I have no desire to interact with them here.
- Michael McKean
My FB friends are old college pals and my out-of-state family members. They'd have no interest.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Michael stole my comment... FB is full of people I used to know but haven't seen in over a decade. It's who I used to be.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
For the most part, my FB friends are people I don't want over here. Those I do I've already told about FF and they didn't come over.
- Spidra Webster
Imagine FF'ing with your FB social graph... do you think they could even handle it?
- Chris Heath
Facebook is full of people that I play Mafia Wars with...what would they know of conversation?
- Alex Scoble
^^^ Michael nailed it. I think they all blocked me anyway when I directed my Friendfeed firehose over there for a while. I've since turned it off. No offense to any of my 'friends' over there, but this is where I prefer to hang, like, and conversate.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Alex, you play mafia wars????? *hopes that was dripping with sarcasm*
- Chris Heath
They are a different populace overall though many of us are over there. Yes, though I play Mafia Wars I can still hold an intelligent conversation. :)) Seriously they are a different group of people than here. My perception of the people on FF that I've befriended are more intellectually minded, conversational, tech savy, and relational than 99% of the mono FB users.
- James Stratford
Actually James, some of my best friends in the (non-virtual) world are mono FB users. While your characterization is indeed true of some of them, it is quite untrue of most of them (granted, this may be because I only hang out with smart people 8-O ). Yet my erudite, conversational, tech savvy, relational FB friends have all (and I mean this literally) ignored my evangelizing about FF...
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- Jim Hearts FF
In other words, what Spidra said.
- Jim Hearts FF
Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal? I didn't spend all my time here making connections, adding in interesting content and trying to get friends to join so that friendfeed would get acquired by Facebook.
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I guess I should be glad that I made a bunch of new friends here and have learned a lot, but I just wish that the guys at friendfeed hadn't sold out to a company that doesn't really need what friendfeed has.
- Alex Scoble
I think betrayal is the word of the day around here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
EXACTLY!
- Kandeezie
Damn. Just heard.... Not sure what I think yet, but I worry about the openness of my info and postings.
- Mark Aitken
You guys amuse me.
- Cristo
Meh
- Andrew Roche
Whatever, Chris, I'm not amused.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
@Alex: I completely agree... and I haven't been and won't ever be on Facebook...
- Harold
not wrong at all. I actually feel a little hurt.
- Jim Hearts FF
Yeah, I think betrayed is a good description...
- Lindsay
But let's be honest, they built this to make money and survive. Gotta say I'm pleased it's shown to be worth something, and I'm guessing a significant something for FB to acquire them. Wonder if they were offered shares in FB as part of the deal?
- Mark Aitken
I guess we are all betrayed - in certain terms.. but FB should have done its market research before it got this property. Most of the USERS are not happy with FB type of connections or that property , so we left and looked for something better, it was FF. Now a new hunt will begin !
- Peter Dawson
I think a lot of us feel betrayed.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
What did you do it for then?
- George F. Snell III
I think it's too soon to feel betrayed. This interview made me feel a lot better about the whole deal: http://bit.ly/PReef
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
actually, you kinda did. if users like you didn't create so much value, Facebook wouldn't have acquired (notwithstanding feelings of betrayal).
- jeffscott
Yeah. That's excatly how I feel.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Throws a sheep at Alex... Yeah, that wasn't much fun.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
I share your sentiments in many ways. I have been proud to tell others who had no idea that FF existed how good it is (lets hope not was!) Lets hope they keep the spirit alive. By the way the minute I see any target 'phorm' style advertising, I am off to find a new up and coming. I wont run to Tumblr yet but I do have one foot in already, just in case.
- Kevin J Hatton
My immediate reaction was Facebook will push ads onto their users. I think FriendFeed could be seriously screwed up with live moving ads, so that's hopefully out of the picture from a purely usability view. Friendfeed is all about realtime web information. I then wonder how in that case will the monetise the relationship. My guess? Facebook will show live conversations and hopefully they will rip out the poor IM implementation in Facebook. The purchase may be nothing more sinister, I hope...
- Mark Aitken
Feeling a bit of betrayal, or unhappiness atleast. Have a Facebook account but rarely use it since it's a walled garden. Preferred Friendfeed for better technology, organization, but even more so it's openness!
- LonelyBob
Betrayed is a strong word, but I do feel a loss of ownership. And it's not like I really 'owned' the community, or the content I put into it. All the same, I contributed, and the more a person contributes to something, the more they feel a sense of entitlement (?) or ownership. Now it's as if I've had someone just pull a rug out from under me.
- cecily
I don't give 2 cents if that's wrong or not but I feel betrayed.
- vijay
Peter, I doubt FB gives a crap about FF users. FB wanted the talent that worked at FF, not the product.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I understand the sentiment, but this is the way of tech apps;.nothing stays the same for long. Feeling betrayed is not gonna change anything. Either you roll with the changes and try to force the positive, or you quit.
- Rene Wirtz
I agree with Cecily that betrayal is a strong word. I have always understood that FriendFeed is a free service, thus I can't claim control over it. Though, really, I wonder what s going to happen to my thousands of likes, comments, posts, etc.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
:-) + :-(
- Majento
Completely concur with you Alex. Just goes to show maybe there is room for another platform...
- Arleen Anderson
As I said elsewhere, this was a talent + buzz acquisition. I sorta wish I could download my FF history and host it on my own server with SweetCron or something.
- Anthony Citrano
+1 Alex. EndFeed's the word... well, how about everybody grieves for 5 minutes, then gets the search for greener pastures under way. There was plenty to be improved about FriendFeed (been saying that since well before this announcement), so I just hope that someone else has the databasing/real-time wherewithal to build something like this, improved.
- Alex Schleber
Facebook doesn't even give a crap about their own users
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Do any of these sites give a crap though Alex? I understand what you are saying and how it makes you feel this way, but I realised a long time ago.. they are ALL businesses and the bottom line is NO they don't give a crap... because they are NOT depending on you to be ok..
- Rob Sellen :o)
friendfeed at least acted as though they gave a crap...at least until today. And there's nothing about being a business that says "crapping on your customers is OK". Business is business does not equal "screw your customers to make a buck".
- Alex Scoble
from IM
That and stunned. Lately I've been describing Friendfeed to the uninitiated as "a facebook without all the crap." Unfortunately, it looks like now it'll just be integrated into all the crap, if kept at all. That said, congratulations to the FF team - this is a big win for them and they deserve a lot of kudos. I look forward to the web apps they come up with in the future.
- Chris Rogers
whether they screwed us remains to be seen
- Lindsey is Fierce!
"Is it wrong for me to feel a certain sense of betrayal?" - in an emotional sense, no. In a literal sense, yes, unless you can show me where FriendFeed made a commitment to you that they'd never change in a way that didn't fit your ideals for the service.
- Edward Coffey
i'm just hoping they will keep friendfeed separate and use it as a testing ground for new features.
- Edgar Rodríguez
They made a commitment to us when they built a service that wasn't called Facebook or Twitter. They made a commitment to us when they listened to our feedback and participated in our feeds. They made a commitment to us with their actions. A commitment that has been forever shattered with their deal with the internet equivalent of the devil.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Lindsey is right.. the thing is Alex... friendfeed is STILL here... ;o) YOU are still here...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Not for long, Rob. I give friendfeed a year tops.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And forget about any improvements to the site. You know that the team will be much too busy trying to figure out what the next iteration of Facebook should look like.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yep , definitely a sense of foreboding there ... "for the time being"
- Tom Horn
I can empathize with these sentiments, but Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
why? friendfeed.com is not going anywhere is it... no reason this place couldn't stay.. what if they LOCKED friendfeed users in now.. said.. we WILL reward you users for helping us, testing things for us etc... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob...did you not notice who bought them? Facebook is known for doing dick for their users.
- Alex Scoble
Absolutely not Alex, I feel the same way. About 18 months' collection of content, great friends, an open community all gone. We now are marched into an atmosphere of censorship and walled relationships where users don't amount to a hill of beans. Really, really sucks.
- jcunwired
I'm sure FF is going away one way or another; there's no way that the combined company is going to keep developing full steam ahead on both products. Is it wrong to feel betrayed? I don't know. I don't personally feel betrayed, but I guess I'm not nearly as invested in FF as you and others are. I do think the end result may be something positive though; the ability to interact with the larger FB community on this level is something that could be truly wonderful. Then again, it might just end in tears...
- Tristan Seligmann
Especially when we consider that while they built the tools, we as a community are what made it great - both with our usage, our dedication and our regular feedback to make the site better. As I said before, its our fault FB even looked this way.
- jcunwired
"...internet equivalent of the devil" - ohh-kayy...*backs away slowly*
- Edward Coffey
betrayal isn't the word i feel. it's just business. i do agree with Anthony Citrano: I wonder if there's a way to pull all of my stuff out of FF and put it on my own machine. the year I've spent here, and the 2+ years on Twitter and FB, have been to the detrimiment of my own writing and content creation. The thing about all social media is they depend on users to fill their cyber-vessels with content, and then they make a living off of that...but it's pretty difficult for you to reclaim your "stuff" later.
- .LAG liked that
If Google's motto is "do no evil" then Facebook's motto is "do whatever we want to our customers, even when it makes absolutely no sense"...yeah, I'd consider that to be bordering on evil.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I did Alex.. Facebook sucks in many ways, they treat users like shit... BUT does this deal mean the actual end of frienfeed.com < the domain etc... what about if this place is used like a testing place and kept here? who knows?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ironic that! ToS & privacy & UCG & bandwidth & yet how much of that can be measured without actuarial measurements of packet flow? Not surprised based on much of the commentary the past 18 months. Attribution & authenticity matters.
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Get this out of your system soon, before time runs out :) https://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
- jcunwired
I think betrayal is appropriate - the FB community is NOT the FF community. Even if they make it better, or build something completely new, they will at some point shut down or gut what they have here.
- Jennifer Dittrich
As long as my stuff is still indexed, I don't really care. I love Facebook - and I love watching my real friends interact with my Internet friends. :)
- Mona Nomura
FWIW TXT is a bigger "content" biz than music, movies, games combined ... Yet this was not a predictable exit? Come on ... Said many times - what is a fair split for UCG & those that skim the packet flow?
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Betrayal is definitely appropriate. So is apprehension and a little bit of anger.
- Mike Lewis
I feel the same way! I'm glad I'm not alone in that feeling. I have facebook I don't like it as much I like FF.
- Anna Lynn M.
I don't feel betrayed. I am, however, worried. And I know people will jump all over me and say that I am a fool for thinking that anything online can stay hidden. I wasn't naive enough to think I'd never be found, but I take steps to try to head that off. I don't use my full name, I don't link certain social sites to the blog, I don't let the blog be indexed, etc. And now, with one...
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- pea
I wouldn't worry about Facebook integrating your FriendFeed content into Facebook; that doesn't seem very likely to me.
- Tristan Seligmann
I feel you, Alex, and dread what is to come. But at the same time, seeing the reported terms of the deal, I don't think I would have turned it down either.
- Michael W. May
Alex - Think you'd have to agree (despite the fact we don't know everything) that they were smart. On the other hand, it's pretty obvious you're not alone in your sentiments (Funny - posted this to Robert's stream first by boo-boo :)
- Charlie Anzman
Alex, I feel your pain - but someone was going to acquire FriendFeed. It was inevitable. I'm just glad Facebook didn't buy Twitter.
- Bill Sodeman
I would rather that Google bought friendfeed and Facebook acquired Twitter. That would have been justice. This...this is a travesty.
- Alex Scoble
So would I alex..but it never happened..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Do you think Microsoft finish the job and eat Facebook?
- τorƍue
:(
- Martha
pea brings up an interesting point - pseudonymity is allowed by FF, disallowed by Facebook.And what of the FF groups?
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
τorƍue, or worse - Oracle buying out Facebook. hehe
- imabonehead
follow the money
- L Stephen Cleary
I love the way FriendFeed works, I hate Facebook interfaces. I wish there was another FriendFeed-like service to jump to.
- Amit Morson
I've never found Facebook to be intuitive, and I just enjoyed the manner of connecting here. Not sure what to feel now.
- Rick Cogley
I don't think it's wrong to feel betrayed. If Facebook bought Twitter, honestly I would feel the same way. I think they're going to shutter the store here, which is kind of sad, but we'll see....
- matt singley
My fears are threefold. I fear unavoidable unwanted integration. I fear the addition of the awful Facebook TOS, and I fear the loss of the community. That last one is the big one.
- Joe Pierce
Joe, perhaps FB may change their TOS...
- Bill Sodeman
my sense of betrayal is so strong that I made this --->- http://bit.ly/A0jWq
- vijay
It's all about the money, It's all about the dum dum didudumdum, I don't think it's funny...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bill, that is a nice thought but it is very doubtful. It would solve a lot of the problem I have with them if they did though. I seriously just don't want to lose the awesome community that has built up here. I mean without FF how would I keep up with Alex, its not like I live in the same town....oh wait /stalkermodeactivate!
- Joe Pierce
If you find any decent asylum, Ryo, please check a room for me, as well, please.
- Zackatoustra
from email
Guess we didn't read the Terms of Service carefully enough. :-(
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I wish it was Twitter, Google, even Yahoo but not Facebook.
- Jacque
Yes, it stings like a ...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Would you have not spent all the time here (etc...) if you were told that this is a start-up business and could get acquired at any time? Or could run out of money and shut down at any time? At least you had a chance to make the connections and share/consume that content...for free. Looks like you're better off than you were before you joined, no?
- Mohamed J
Yes, that's probably an accurate way to describe it, a sense of betrayal. Of course, we're not paying money to use this good service though we are paying time and good will, so it can be argued I suppose that FF did not betray us. I'm feeling upset myself, because I have never liked FB much. I did not want to be on there but got invited by old friends. I don't like the walled garden...
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- Rick Cogley
Rick: +1
- imabonehead
I am agree :(
- Janice
I especially feel crappy because I evangelized FF aggressively among my friends, most of whom are on Facebook.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
To Alex Schleber: if you build it, we will come. Seriously, what Rick Cogley said too - I love that I can interact with almost anyone, not just people I'd interact with anyway and, in my case, have known forever. I love that it's like a small, really fun cocktail party with your friends, some of their friends, and a few strangers - as opposed to a convention (or, for me, a high school reunion!). Sad.
- Amy℠
It's not wrong to feel betrayed, but everyone has their price - sadly.
- David Jagger
The way the transaction was done is a betrayal of trust. Facebook can buy FF but not the trust of FF users. How much user pay for FF pay? Nothings? The time we invest in this application worth somethings unless you consider users of FF like shit.... Who care that crew of morons (FF users)? Just sell FF and move them like potatoes, right? Wrong! Trust can't be bought even with $50 Millions FriendFeed? Call it FailFriend. :S
- Claude LaFrenière
Yeah, Claude, it's definitely a trust thing.
- Rick Cogley
I've examined the emotional reaction of Alex (and others) to the announcement http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009...
- John E. Bredehoft
No, it's like someone killed my puppy....or titty cat
- sofarsoShawn
We are being assimilated - Resistance is futile. :-(
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Am I the only one here that hates Facebook?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hate Facebook with a passion.
- Joshua
there's a lot i dislike about the service, but there's a buttload of more people who know of it. i'd like to convince the people i know to use something like this instead but know what people are like..
- Terry O'Fee
HAHA so true!!!
- jamar78
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He's the reason half the web knows about FriendFeed. ALL early adopters should be giving him hella credit for helping Friendfeed get this far. I wouldn't even be on Friendfeed had it not been for Louis and you probably wouldn't either. Raise your hand if the same applies to you. I'm seriously annoyed by this move. But I guess it's "politics". Blah!
- Corvida
Actually, I know FriendFeed from Robert Scoble. He made FF uber-popular.
- Rudy Amid
I'm here because Scoble kept talking about FF so much.
- vijay
LG also brought me here and i agree with Corvida. Scoble seem to have become active later from what I saw. In the end, I guess it doesn't matter.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'm on holiday... So I had to check techmeme. Good to get these guys on the team. Is that the end then of the frustrated ff hype?
- DC Crowley
from iPod
Scoble here, but LG was part of making the site worth it definitely
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Who do you think brought Scoble over? :)
- Louis Gray
see what you did Louis, I'm deeply attached to something that's never gonna be the same DAMN YOU LOUIS GRAY
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I have failed you all.
- Louis Gray
I was thinking the same thing: Scoble or LouisGray could have gotten some benefit from breaking the news. Instead, it broke on TechCrunch. Its sortof like twitter's treatment of Leo Laporte, albeit not an exact match.
- DGentry
Louis is the one who introduced Scoble to FriendFeed. Weren't you paying attention to WHAT Scoble is saying rather than the fact that this is where he relocated?
- Corvida
I believe I did. I'm sorry to have so obviously offended you.
- DGentry
Scoble, your blog still loves you (Scripting News). http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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All the effort he poured into FriendFeed is for naught. They sold to Facebook. In the announcements, no mention of the users, and certainly no mention of Scoble. Now would have been the time for them to tip him, throw him a few thousand. Or if not money, how about at least a hat-tip -- an acknowledgement of the help they received from users, esp Robert Scoble. Nothing. They didn't even give him the first interview.
- Dave Winer
A tr.im link, Dave? Surely, you've heard the news, http://blog.tr.im/post... P.S. I know you do, just a friendly reminder, to change your shortener by December 31.
- Jimminy
I have to agree with Dave ... caveat ... What is the alternative in the money-making world? When does attribution balance privacy & piracy?
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
I can certainly understand why people feel betrayed, but at the same time, what did we really think was going to happen eventually? There wasn't any possibility it was going to stay this way indefinitely without a revenue stream.
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I will remind you that the owners and developers have been saying for quite some time that revenue stream is not important.
- jcunwired
Yeah... Just facebook.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
indeed ... talk is not revenue ... but there are "free" alternatives (vanity-free even)
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
But how do they pay for the bandwidth and the servers without revenue? The money was going to run out eventually.
- Victor Ganata
Map flow to infrastructure. Telecom is 90+% billing, advertising & collections. Pay the user for the flow attributed to their access & bandwidth charges. Real accounting.
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Not to mention: Google Reader's "social" aspect is a FAIL. Picasa is a POS (frankly).
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hate hate hate hate
- Roshan Vyas
It's a frickin' mess. And all that half *ss Blogger / Picasa integration? FAIL FAIL FAIL
- Mona Nomura
what is going on? How is Picasa a POS?
- Chieze Okoye
@popstat Dude. Don't EVEN get me started on Blogger. Love me some Twitter but MAN Blogger is just offensive.
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guh, what?
- Chieze Okoye
In light of the bad news, will you be deleting your posts in rooms like Confessions or Bitchfest or any adult oriented rooms?
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Didn't do confessions or bitchfests (thankfully) so no need to worry about that. But I am planning on going through my feed to see about deleting stuff.
- pea
No. I don't really care. People I sub to on Facebook don't really care (not now, anyway). I'm in wait and see mode.
- Helen Sventitsky
Not yet. I'll wait and see what happens to the privacy policy and content ownership first.
- joey
Aye, I am in "wait and see" mode, as well.
- Michael W. May
wait and see sounds good
- Nia
Thought about it, not sure.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I think deleting stuff at this moment would be a tad melodramatic. We don't even know if the content is even going to move there.
- Admiral Anika
@Anika, It's true, we don't. But keeping up some ranty thing I posted a year ago in a moment of annoyance isn't worth the potential frustration to me now. Plus, as I said before, it's not as if FF is used to giving us advance warning about what's going to happen. As I've always said, being on here is supposed to be fun, and on top of that, I'm all about prevention rather than intervention. :) Saves on the hassles I've found.
- pea
I keep my FF and FB content very separate and very different, I rarely (if ever) even crosspost, so I will be hiding/privatising (if there is such a word)/deleting that which I would not have shared on FB.. dont get me wrong, I realise that if someone went looking, they could find everything here, but the community on FB has not necessarily been that curious to look outside the FB playpen...
- Kim
@pea well said!
- Kim
Join me for a two minute mourning. R.I.P FriendFeed. It's now time for a moment of silence.
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R.I.P FriendFeed 2007-2009
- Mike Fruchter
Oh the times the are-a-changin'!
- Jason Pollock
I'm totally excited for this change - it's nothing but good for both companies
- Jesse Stay
Facebook Users - Here's What FriendFeed Brings to the Family http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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How the FUCK does Google let Facebook acquire FriendFeed for any amt of $? GOOGLE U R A BIG FUCKING LOSER. Absolute #FAIL. -@davemcclure
Steven Perez, LouCypher, Kol Tregaskes and 8 other people liked this
I'd rarher see it go Google any single day
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I think Google is putting their bets on Google Wave.
- John Wang
I'm just happy for the FriendFeed team and Google Wave is clusterf*ck.
- Mona Nomura
I'm happy for the team. I'm indifferent for us (the users). Can't really say how I feel, as I don't know what their plans are for FF now. As for Google Wave. Yes, it's a huge mess right now. It's a great idea, and I love that it's pure HTML5 instead of Flash, but the current sandbox is just complete chaos.
- John Wang
Excited to change my FriendFeed status to: "It's complicated." #FBombsGalore
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Simple Minds – Don't You (Forget About Me) - http://blip.fm/profile...
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@pattonroberta: "We won't " RIP John Hughes
- Emma
That brings back memories!
- Michael Fidler
Fwd: http://twitpic.com/964mk - Cat vs Corn... OM NOM NOM (via http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac...) Cute Overload !
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:-D
- Anna Haro
I always love seeing this. And the kitten looks like my cat, which makes it even cuter.
- joey
that little nose :)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
spike does that in a truly messy way ... awesome
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
I has a corm!
- Mellissa Claus
That is too precious! xo
- Fossil Huntress
Cool. That cat really likes the cob!
- Kevin J Hatton
omg crazy cute
- Lindsey is Fierce!
x_x
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Be honest who bought any Michael Jackson songs online, iTunes, Amazon etc?
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I bought Wanna be Startin Something off iTunes.
- Mike Fruchter
I have not. I did hear a 2008 electronic mix of Wanna Be Starting Something on the radio that was good enough to buy, though.
- Louis Gray
Not me. Heard a bunch on the radio and that was enough for me. I was never really a fan and don't feel like I should suddenly become a fan just because he died.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Do you know who did the remix Louis?
- Frankie Warren
Apparently a lot of people have: http://friendfeed.com/poppy...
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Already had all the ones I wanted.. many, many of them..
- Andy Connell
Good question, Frankie. I can poke around. It was on 92.7 Energy out of San Francisco the evening he died, and was called the 2008 remix.
- Louis Gray
Do a search for "MJ Mega Remix" in my feed and you'll find my absolute favorite MJ Remix
- Jesse Stay
Louis, could be Akon's version.
- Akiva Moskovitz
And yes, I've bought a few re-makes. There's a Chris Cornell version of Billie Jean that's really good, and I bought a few music videos
- Jesse Stay
Not me...I got tired of his stuff long ago.
- Alex Scoble
I don't have to buy them. I subscribe to Rhapsody. I listened to most of the HIStory album at work this morning. http://www.rhapsody.com
- Skyler Call
Not a one.
- George F. Snell III
Michael WHO???
- Roy Blumenthal
I'm still really tempted to buy "Off The Wall". I had the CD years ago, but I lost during one of the moves.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
I might buy this one: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
- Louis Gray
the videos were actually my motivation. had forgotten how massively popular & influential they were (& yes I saw the reunion tour at the Orange Bowl ... the last time I think I had binoculars at a concert LOL) ... Happy 4th, Mike!
- Scott Moskowitz
from iPhone
Don't have a single MJ song in my library.
- Herb Hernandez
Fwd: Aspiring Pop Singer’s Debut Single Video Shot Entirely on an iPhone 3GS? | Just Another iPhone Blog - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre... (via http://friendfeed.com/iphoneu...)
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We all now eagerly await Reyna Perez' musical and video rendering of "Let Me Be The One" previously performed on stage by the unimitable Sueleen Gay http://www.imdb.com/charact... in Robert Altman's "Nashville."
- ianf ⌘
very grateful to have people come back into my life, time and time again, reminding me where I come from. We all can make a difference.
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Dear Rush Limbaugh: RE: bulldozing "blue cities" - great idea, dumbass. Scatter blue voters all over the map, and where will they settle? In your previously majority-conservative locales. Which will further nullify any chance of Republicans being anything more than a minority party. Math wasn't your strong suit, was it? Up yours, Me.
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Yes. Let's bulldoze the places where 75% of all the country's economic activity takes place and let's see what happens to the country. I wish I could be paid as much as he is to say things that moronic all day.
- Eric P
+ Eric
- Todd Hoff
Have the Republican party and the conservative movement been reduced to this? They used to be proponents of economic creativity and activity; now they wish to destroy the economic engine that fuels whatever prosperity America has left. And they have no sense of the absurdity of their beliefs -- it's all about vile and violent xenophobic ranting; no substantive policy ideas.
- Sean McBride
Have the Republican party and the conservative movement been reduced to this? Yes.
- Joe Silence is not dead
It's also a shameless disregard for property rights :-)
- Todd Hoff
Major League Baseball patents - http://www.1201tuesday.com/1201_tu... - no sign of anything on a Method of Ignoring Widespread Steroid Use (HT @ErikJHeels)
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i love this :)
- Hayk H.
me too, hayk. :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona :)
- Hayk H.
geeky comics, i likey!
- imabonehead
heh
- Charlie Anzman
Yar!
- Jay Wiegmann
awesome!
- Harold Green
heck yes :)
- Mona Nomura
this one never gets old
- Lindsey is Fierce!
*chuckles*
- Kamath (नमः)
what an idea
- macro
Sorry for all the bumpage, people. I'm using "search" for the first time ever.
- Mona Nomura
Not sure if I'm feeling BrightKite. No one seems to use it
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I'm afraid to use Brightkite, myself. I'm not a big fan of telling everyone my exact location at any particular moment.
- Helen Sventitsky
I think this only works when you have close RL friends and family that are into social networking 2.0 stuff. Adding internet friends gave me the same feeling you have...just doesn't feel like it's a good idea..
- Mike Lewis
I use it. I just don't pipe it here.
- Steven Perez
don't think it's that precise to be a problem except as a sign that you're "not home" but that's easy to get many other ways
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I use Britekite
- Damond Nollan
I can't get it to cooperate with my phone.
- Laura Lou Who
I like brightkite. Use it all the time.
- Jim Hearts FF
I love that I don't use BrightKite because it freaks me out about people know where I am, but then I'll send a tweet telling everyone EXACTLY WHERE I AM. *hypocritical bitchlips*
- Derrick
I forget to use it. I tend to shy away from using it to pinpoint, like, my apartment. But if I'm out and about, I don't mind. Goodness knows, like Derrick says, I tweet enough about where I am. And it does have privacy controls to finetune how specific you are to which people - but no one I know uses it, so it's kind of pointless.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Derrick, 1 up for "hypocritical bitchlips"!
- Laura Lou Who
I know Anika uses it, though...we almost had lunch once because of a BK posting.
- Derrick
Okay, apparently those of you who are not creepy serial killers need to connect with me on BK.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'd use it more if I were in a big city. Nobody is in my area.
- Rodfather
Jandy, they're on Craigslist, not BK.
- Derrick
I'm using it so that my RL friends on Twitter can follow my escapades.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
Derrick, wait - you mean putting my full address and phone number and hour-by-hour schedule on Craigslist was NOT a good idea? DAMN!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I've been hit on via Brightkite :D
- sofarsoShawn
Hit on? Woah
- Shevonne
how do hp bictchlips differ from garden variety bitchlips?
- Jim Hearts FF
Shevonne, I just added you as a friend on BrightKite. Prepare to be utterly inundated with boredom.
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
I much prefer Google latitude. No constant updates being pushed to me. I can just check where people are based on when I'm curious and feeling stalkery. That's much more my speed.
- ♥patricia♥
I love Brighkite. as it was mentioned before, their privacy settings are pretty granular so you don't have to tell everybody (or anybody) exactly where you are. you can also choose to be public but set certain locations (like home, office, etc.) as always private. I also like how conversations are kept together and photos are integrated (w/option to send to Flickr).
- jbrotherlove
I made my home private and blah blah. It isn't the privacy settings really. It's just seems like no one in DC uses it.
- Shevonne
I hid all the Brightkite entries from FriendFeed as I got tired of the pointless maps that didn't really add anything useful - just more noise.
- Jemm
BrightKite is basically Twitter with GPS
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But now there is UberTwitter, so is BrightKite necessary now?
- Shevonne
for those who use twitter, bk might be unnecessary.
- Jim Hearts FF
I have brightkite account but can't seem to find a way to use it. I don't get any feedback. When I check in at home I only use my zip code.
- Valley
I use it when I remember and have internet ... but ...
- Robert Couture
I have both BK and Twitter and I use neither of them alike. I don't tweet my whereabouts. I'm one of those annoying unconventional Twitter people. And to be honest, I'm not interesting enough to stalk, so I have no fear of putting my whereabouts on BK. I just don't use my exact work address (anyone can find my home addy without my help).
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Shevonne aah, I see. well yeah, there's that. if a service doesn't have the users *you* need, then it's kind of pointless. honestly, there's only a small group of my friends in the city who use Brightkite. but it's a great app to use for conferences like SXSW.
- jbrotherlove
Now that I am adding FFers, they can pretend to be interested in what I am doing. =P
- Shevonne
BrightKite is meh. I have a problem of not going anywhere in a day (unemployment), forgetting to use it (most common), and the location isn't percise enough for me to acurately nail where I am. Oh, yeah: http://brightkite.com/people... EDIT: Oh, yeah, I just added a bunch of you people.
- Mike Nayyar
I have been using brightkite for a while, but no one seems to bother stalking me :D
- Baard @ Pixum
I'll use it more when I get an iPhone
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I enjoy Brightkite. The one precaution I've taken is to make tweets from home less accurate for non-friends (I think it shows a neighborhood name instead of my address.) Other than that, shrug. And yeah, biggest problem for me: forgetting to check in.
- Scott of Two Countries
I kept forgetting to check in, so it went unused for a while. Then I wondered what my reason was for using it, figured out I didn't really have one so cancelled my account. For me it just ended up being another site I was registered to, but I can totally see why other people enjoy using it.
- Charlotte M
The experience is definitely better on a smartphone. Allows you to check in when you're at a restaurant or club or somewhere interesting rather than just work and home. I kind of think that all the location-awareness tools are a bit ahead of the curve, though. The potential is there, but not enough people are ready for it yet. And I'm wanting to try Latitude - is that out for iPhone yet? Last I checked, it wasn't.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
That's why my BK has been somewhat neglected...I go all sorts of places, but most of the time I lack the ability to check in remotely. That will change once I get my iPhone this summer. At that point y'all will be like "Dude, doesn't this bitch ever stay home?!" :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
yeah it is awesome for events like sxsw - but i dont find much purpose in general usage
- andy brudtkuhl
Brightkite's regular phone SMS is pretty darn sophisticated - and fast. I still use it the most to update my status/photos/location (as I'm not always near a wifi connection to use my iPod Touch).
- jbrotherlove
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