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I'll be posting info here.
- Robert Scoble
See, this is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about: http://friendfeed.com/otto42... :)
- Otto
What's up Vermont ... ?! ;-)
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
Al işte robert scoble da kopardı kayışı :) (çağdaş uğraşmıyorum sen tercüme ediver :P)
- kaloglu[@ İzmir]
please post to the iSlate Friendfeed Group http://friendfeed.com/islate-...
- Hans Kainz
twitter is dragging big time now
- Ryan
?
- Fabricio Vai
Yeah, Twitter is slow slow slow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert..What benchmark do you use for best live coverage?
- Jim Posner
hide !
- Farshad
what can anyone see from inside?
- Fabricio Vai
hey scoble, long time no talk :). what do you all think abt steve announcing retirement today?
- Robbie Trencheny
Cool! Any opinions on what's the best live stream to watch for coverage?
- .LAG liked that
LAG: right here. I will post whenever someone has good live stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert
- Keith Teare
Also: Oracle+Sun.
- Bill Jackson
Right now Leo Laporte has best live stream
- Robert Scoble
Shame we can't get recent comments at top
- Keith Teare
@LAG http://live.gizmodo.com, http://live.twit.com, http://www.ustream.tv/leolapo...
- Robbie Trencheny
Hi Keith, yeah, FriendFeed has a lot of UI things that bug me too.
- Robert Scoble
or here yeah
- Robbie Trencheny
Loving Twit indeed
- Jorge Escobar
@LAG i think http://live.twit.tv/ but you can also check it here http://hans.li/28
- Hans Kainz
Do you think gdgt will have the best inside coverage?
- Jim Posner
@Robert - i made a list of twitterers covering the event live, then threw it in my blog: http://www.livedigitally.com/2010...
- Jeremy Toeman
was it known that nobody was to have a live stream?
- Fabricio Vai
Stephen Fry is there apparently. Hah
- Jalada
and direct link to the list: http://twitter.com/jtoeman...
- Jeremy Toeman
Robbie: I'm posting the best Tweets to http://twitter.com/scoblei... Jeremy, that's a cool small list. My list of tech journalists is more complete.
- Robert Scoble
Keith, if your in the feed, click on timestamp, then click timestamp again. The comments will pin to the bottom.
- Micah
@Robert - but my list is just people covering it. yours has me in it (sweet!), and i won't be covering it...
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: Thanks, added that to what I'm watching
- Jalada
Anyone listening to the live event on techcrunch? #AppleLive http://bit.ly/4pmTaR
- BlausenGroup
Jeremy: hopefully you'll add more cause I've seen a few tech journalists who are there who aren't on your list.
- Robert Scoble
Cloud integration getting lot's of coverage. I hope it happens..Will really ignite cloud adoption.
- Jim Posner
I'd rather have a tablet a day to keep me healthy
- Swaroop
Apple "flavored" tablet that is.
- Swaroop
I'll be watching. I have Leo on my tv but you know what's all weird abut this coverage? EVERYONE is excited about it! Even non-apple peeps. I think we're all hoping for something that will change our lives tangibly.
- Sheryl
@Robert - planning to, it's incredibly hard sifting through twitter search to find who is *actually* there versus who is just RTing others
- Jeremy Toeman
This is Raju from iSites Team. How are you guys doing?
- Raju Sagiraju
I'm in Sydney, Australia right now. The TWIT stream doesn't work and the audio stream doesn't appear to work at all.
- Gary
@Keith: open this thread in a separate tab and scroll to the bottom. From then on all new comments appearing at the bottom will push the thread up, so no need to scroll :-)
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
I'm in Canada just up the road and it works fine here, sorry to hear your struggling with the feed.
- Owen Greaves
I would pay to watch a live stream of the apple event!
- Raju Sagiraju
History has it that the Apple -Eve saw changed.... ! Apple is going to change communications and... !
- kailas desai
thanks Scobleizer... I'll stay on this thread then!
- .LAG liked that
i've got Scoble's tech-news-people list running on http://twitterfall.com (disc: I'm the lead developer there ;) )
- Jalada
@HansKainz... thanks for the link, opening up a new window for that... thank goodness I have a 30-inch monitor :)
- .LAG liked that
I'm monitoring #AppleLive on Twitter, Robert Scoble on FriendFeed and Twit.tv
- Owen Greaves
Bunch of iPhone blog editors talking the announcements here: http://friendfeed.com/2010-01...
- 148Apps
@Jalada - can you add mine too by any chance? http://twitter.com/jtoeman...
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: Oh yeah, sorry, I am running that too :D
- Jalada
Has anyone seen our Blausen Human Atlas on the itablet yet? Interested in feedback
- BlausenGroup
@Jalada how do i find it?
- Jeremy Toeman
GUys, Leo Laporte has over 20000 viewers on his site!
- Mark
Jeremy - on Twitterfall you can add lists to view in realtime by just typing the name in the lists text box on the left :)
- Jalada
e.g. @jtoeman/appletabletlive
- Jalada
these are the latest from an hour ago...http://i.gizmodo.com/5458217...
- Ryan
got it - cool!
- Jeremy Toeman
How long before they let everyone in ?
- fmclean
from iPhone
apple store still up
- Ryan
Ryan: It's the big surprise - no new product today ;)
- Jalada
Happy apple day everyone :)
- Hitesh Parashar
thanks @rene
- Keith Teare
Hitesh or maybe they're announcing v2 of the Apple HiFi
- Mike Doeff
surely that's iHiFi?
- Roger Pettett
from twhirl
Mike - yeah that explains the excitement :)
- Hitesh Parashar
I'm broadcasting live from http://ustream.tv/scobleizer now, let me know if you can hear it OK.
- Robert Scoble
yup can hear it fine
- Jalada
Apple may really need to make this tablet a success since less than extraordinary iPhone shipments in this last quarter may point to rival phones blocking further iPhone steep incline.
- Tim Jones
Ooooh only a few minutes till Apple tablet news kicks off. Can't wait to see what Job's reveals
- Susan Beebe
The Apple announcement brought FF down for a while:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Google Wave anybody ?
- Kashif Khan
it's up and down
- James Prudente
would love to see the carriers' net utilization stats during this thing...
- Eric
Please post a Wave URL if you've got one.
- Steve and 3 other people
Using http://friendfeed.com/iphone is a bit more reliable, but not realtime.
- Steve and 3 other people
And here we are. Thanks!
- Jon Winters
live.twit.tv not responding.
- Micah
Micah: ustream is struggling.
- Robert Scoble
Listening to Leo LaPorte & following Scoble here & Gizmodo
- Rosalinda Mojarro
Can't get twit.am to load via iphone here
- Ryan
Nice live, auto-updating coverage with pics at GDGT: http://live.gdgt.com/2010... *Found this link in Robert's FF!
- Kurt Starnes
So much for real time streaming and commenting. Now we know where the network breaks down in an "emergency"
- Francine Hardaway
well i have a public wave set up here https://wave.google.com/wave...
- Kashif Khan
I can't believe Steve Jobs hasn't taken over the live-streaming part of the presentation. My memories are going to be of Leo's voice getting lost in the digital haze.
- Ian McGee
Scoble, cant hear you at ustream.
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Pretty good audio at live.twit.tv
- Mike Doeff
i dont think friendfeed is used to this much activity anymore. site is failing for me non-stop. but i will say my simple list of 22 people is giving me a very *readable* way to follow the news...
- Jeremy Toeman
I wonder how much of it has to do with the fact that there's no one dedicated to minding the store anymore.
- Akiva
Apple is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD.
- Lakshman Prasad
friendfeed's working fine here
- Tim Jones
The site crashing is troublesome. Sign of the current state of FF.
- Mark Krynsky
all the live news sites are busted hah
- Allen Stern
Lakshman- I thought Nokia is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD, mobile being phones here. As for laptops, it would be one of the PC makers.
- Tim Jones
http://live.gdgt.com is fine
- Jalada
Doh - live.twit.tv lost the audio
- Mike Doeff
I'm watching live blog here http://www.engadget.com/2010... it's better than any live tv or any other shit i have been trying so far...
- Junal Rahman
http://live.twit.tv & http://live.gdgt.com/2010... are the best online resources I've found. The 2 combined is great.
- Mark Krynsky
Both Twit & GDGT working for me.
- Mark Krynsky
live.twit.tv is down - can't get there.
- Debi Jones
ipad!!!!
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
the crunchgear livestream is pretty bad...
- Allen Stern
Oh look it's a giant iPhone
- Jalada
damn gdgt is slick
- Allen Stern
iPad!
- Parth Awasthi
http://live.twit.tv/
- Rosalinda Mojarro
A tablet? Didn't see that one coming...
- Jemm
ha! Twitter crashed!
- .LAG liked that
I REALLY wanted them to not announce one :P hah
- Jalada
It's more beautiful than my girlfriend!
- Aycan Çevik
Even the calendar looks great
- Mike Doeff
aycan - it is my girlfriend
- Allen Stern
it's Fujitsu's iPad!
- Tim Jones
FriendFeed is back.
- Simon Cahuk
Hmm, I'm guessing the iPad will support Flash or else...total FAIL!
- Mark Krynsky
I'm sticking with the JooJoo :)
- Mike Doeff
FriendFeed crashed. GDGT is doing best job.
- Robert Scoble
...so it's about 17-inches diagonal?
- .LAG liked that
why is he describing these things like they're new - we've seen them on the iPhone
- Andrew Terry
waiting for Flash
- Tim Jones
broadcasting on CNBC right now.
- Thomas Hawk
No flash.
- Jeff P. Henderson
No Flash on device.
- Robert Scoble
CNBC just cut feed of jobs, talking about it now.
- Thomas Hawk
Besides it being a larger, slightly tweaked iPhone; why should I buy this? I really don't like how it looks exactly like a blown up iPhone.
- Joshua
AAPL stock down $5 per share.
- Thomas Hawk
Uh oh...@mmastrac just told me Engadget showed a missing plugin flash icon in a screenshot.
- Mark Krynsky
ipad.apple.com. Nothing.
- Aycan Çevik
CNBC: Steve Jobs looks much better, far more robust than the last time we saw him.
- Thomas Hawk
Honestly not impressed. But would rather buy this than a Kindle for sure. But I won't replace my netbook with the iPad anytime soon.
- Jorge Escobar
when u guys say flash do you mean Adobe Flash or Flash drive?
- Allen Stern
So far nothing that is different to a normal tablet
- Mark
The software is key
- Mark
CNBC: Steve Jobs is the modern day snake oil salesman.
- Thomas Hawk
So far a little underwhelming imo
- Kashif Khan
Yup, software is key, but so far haven't seen much revolutionary.
- Robert Scoble
$aapl always goes down on the announcement after a run up in the weeks before.
- Keith Teare
No Flash = TOTAL FAIL! It will be a long time for HTML 5 to take over.
- Mark Krynsky
Adobe
- Jalada
No flash? My #1 goal for one of these would be watching TV on Megavideo.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
is this on the cnbc.com Thom?
- Mark
Thomas: any live stream on the web?
- Robert Scoble
The whole internet in the palm of your hand, unless you want to visit a web site with flash.
- Jon Winters
Doesn't look like it has a video camera
- Keith Teare
not sure, watching CNBC live on TV. Can't find a live stream anywhere.
- Thomas Hawk
did he confirm no flash?
- Mark
Waiting for the punchline. How much $$$ ?
- Mike Doeff
Mark: If Apple keeps pushing away from Flash, than HTML5 will take over quicker than we know.
- Joshua
Folks please don't get carried away. so far its just a tablet pc, there have been MANY tablet pcs.
- Mark
It's just CNBC talking about it though. Paul Kredrodsky talking about it with CNBC live from the event.
- Thomas Hawk
Live audio here: http://live.twit.tv/
- Kurt Starnes
they are debating what it will price at.
- Thomas Hawk
Daring Fireball has a great explanation as to why Apple and Adobe are at odds over Flash, good read, if you're interested in why Flash is a problem for Apple: http://ff.im/-ePkYc
- .LAG liked that
fox business is showing some tape-delayed video live
- Allen Stern
Just a tablet PC like iPhone was just a mobile phone (Note: take a look at almost every smart phone since iPhone launch)
- Kurt Starnes
The price cant be high for a blank slate.
- Mark
Yes, Gruber has a very good explanation about Flash and Apple.
- Simon Cahuk
And whats with the huge bezel?
- Mark
CNBC: I think the name iPad is a mistake. Sue Herera: it reminds me of feminine products.
- Thomas Hawk
LAG...users won't be sympathetic to why Apple and Adobe are at odds...missing Flash is a dealbreaker.
- Mark Krynsky
I have one pill for all clinical apple fanboys (be it even whole usa population) - button HIDE
- A. T.
listening to laporte's ustream. i just yawned, but it could just be that i slept late last night
- Tim Jones
"Apple Drops an iDud" is a funny headline
- Mark
We will talk about this at http://ustream.tv/scobleizer
- Robert Scoble
Joshua...HTML 5 won't happen fast enough for the iPad...
- Mark Krynsky
But I think the price for iPad will be high :).
- Simon Cahuk
9.7" display
- David Damore
Did I hear that right?
- David Damore
0.5-inches thin, weighs just 1.5 pounds.
- .LAG liked that
Adobe has invited me to a Flash event in February that's going to be a pretty big deal, but no iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
good question by mossberg - does this ipad take away sales from the ipod tuch ?
- Allen Stern
There can't be any Flash. It's based on the iPhone OS, which currently doesn't have that capability either. What a surprise. Not really.
- LANjackal
100,000 peopel are watching TWIT Live
- Mark
CNBC: 10 hours of battery life.
- Thomas Hawk
10 hours of battery life? With wifi on?
- Robert Scoble
iPad runs a custom Apple chip -- the A4. That has to be a first - ever?
- Kurt Starnes
108,000 + viewers on TWiT Ustream channel.
- Debi Jones
a 1ghz chip :(
- Mark
Mark Krynsky... I agree with you of the deal-breaking aspect of no Flash
- .LAG liked that
Wow: http://www.apple.com/downloa...
- James
this will boost sales of the Touch
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Mark - a custom chip though
- Jalada
can a 1ghz chip play HD video?
- Mark
I know my 1.4ghz atom struggles with 720p
- Mark
Pixel doubling? Are you serious? Runs apps at essentially 320x480? "Black box" 1:1 in the center of the screen? This is a joke.
- Steve and 3 other people
It is A4, an Audi, so yes, it can play HD video :).
- Simon Cahuk
Price? Shipping date?
- Francine Hardaway
lol! Pixel doubling! We used to do that making DOS games back in the day
- Mark
so, wait... no 3g?
- Andrew Terry
Pathetic.
- Mark
Allen, I think the answer to your question about iPad robbing Touch sales will be a resounding no as soon as we hear the price point.
- Mark Krynsky
battery life 10 hours? realistic? o_O
- Ronald
340x960 resolution for the tablet then ?
- Mark
How many iPhone apps can be on the screen and running at the same time?
- David Damore
CNBC speculating on the price at $1,000.
- Thomas Hawk
Figures that number would be unlimited ...
- LANjackal
from IM
i think most of the existing iPhone apps have to be rewrite for iPad to get the full screen advantage
- Junal Rahman
Multitouch (multiplayer multitouch)
- Robert Scoble
who won the kindle
- Joseph
from twhirl
good point mark
- Allen Stern
My guess: $799
- Mike Doeff
Honestly? So far, I'm pretty disappointed.
- Joshua
conflicted. with a 10 hr battery i can see this replacing a kindle. but I'm pretty happy reading on my nexus. Do I want to go back to carrying a 10" screen?
- Ben Reierson
Rewriting apps for screen resolutions? Won't that result in "fragmentation" of the App Store market? I mean, that's what tech journos have been beating Android over the head with for the past 6 months or so
- LANjackal
from IM
Robert, isn't that called Twister?
- Akiva
"How many iPhone apps can be on the screen and running at the same time?" One. No apps running in the background.
- James
fox business guy bashing the ipad for no keyboard and light gig memory
- Allen Stern
i'd bet the people who can shell out for a kindle will run for an ipad
- Allen Stern
@LANjackal it will be all packed in a fat executable, both low and hi res
- ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
Can the iPad dial your iPhone from it's adress book?
- Jon Winters
I honestly was hoping for a tweaked Touch Ready OS X. Not what feels like a port of the iPhone.
- Joshua
Eh...so far I'm not impressed and don't see anything revolutionary. Sure this device is pretty but I'm already thinking if it's priced any higher than $500 I'm declaring it only a device for early adopters and Fanboys.
- Mark Krynsky
It would be cool if you could run apps side by side. Twitter app and a news app etc. Take advantage of the big screen and not need to resize native iPhone apps.
- David Damore
Have they mentioned it's internet connection? Wi-Fi or something else?
- Jon Winters
apple stock up 2,170% since 2003 - holy crap.
- Allen Stern
Leo's feed is finally showing video from event.
- Robert Scoble
david - scoble will have 3 ipads taped together for mobile usage to mirror his home setup :-P
- Allen Stern
This thing is going after the Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
It's about what I expected. Price is really the key here...and if you need a Mobile Contract.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
This points up the convenience of a smart phone, at 1/4 the price.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Live video from inside; EA demo at http://www.ustream.tv/leolapo...
- Ian McGee
Apple stock is dropping FAST! Not good. I want one...no matter what anyone else says. I think it would be cool.
- Sheryl
iPad Fans join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- Hans Kainz
im guessing sxsw will be renamed - iPadsw
- Allen Stern
Robert - no, it's going after DS Lite and PSP
- Andrew Terry
Apple is 30 minutes into their iPad presentation. The stock is down 2.5%, so Apple has lost $4 BILLION in market cap over the last 30 min. From @hotzington
- Mark
"Going after the Xbox" Yeah when either device has half the capabilities of the other, let me know. Don't be ridiculous
- LANjackal
from IM
Maybe we should buy the stock, wait for it to go back up, sell, then buy an iPad?
- Robert Scoble
Wait LOOK!!! There's more than just Apple!! http://friendfeed.com/got-mem...
- sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!
no way xbox - maybe a nintendo ds - the thing is - if this thing does iphone voice - then maybe people buy this instead of an iphone?
- Allen Stern
Here we go; wave goodbye to the Kindle...
- Andrew Terry
There is actually an iPad listed on Apple's website, but it is just a little different - check it out here http://bit.ly/d6f66J
- Arun
iPad is going to be a big deal -- much more than the specs alone reveal.
- Kurt Starnes
somewhere Jeff Bezos sits, perspiring.
- Parth Awasthi
Not impressed at all. A big "meh"
- Spencer
So reading is NOT the killer feature
- Mark
I was happy reading on my Touch a year ago. The Kindle app is really sweet.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
to me the kindle is a "rich" device meaning the avg american isn't buying it - same with the ipad so it works perfectly - those with kindle money will run to the ipad
- Allen Stern
wow so apple is now going to fight amazon - i hope amazon kicks apples ass :)
- Allen Stern
Yea right Mark...cold day in hell when Apple would do that.
- Mark Krynsky
@Allen Stern +3 Re: "scoble will have 3 ipads taped together"
- David Damore
the price for the new 10" ipod touch ?
- tony bland
iPad is a new platform -- I bet it's where Apple wants to take personal computing
- Kurt Starnes
you're going to give a presentation with your audience huddled around a 9" handheld device..? Really?
- Andrew Terry
will ipad apps work on the ipod touch/ iphone ?
- tony bland
Andrew: and that is going after the Xbox too. Just watch how Microsoft reacts to this. Microsoft wanted to do an Xbox portable.
- Robert Scoble
mememe for the kindle
- Joseph
from twhirl
My sons already have been using Xbox less since iPhones came out. iPads will steal even more time from Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
There are no buttons on it! you can't do serious gaming without buttons.
- Mark
Andrew - do you give presentations around a laptop screen?
- Kurt Starnes
@Kurt: into a brave new world in which every app will need their approval? Sounds like a nightmare for "personal computing" IMO. I hope you're wrong
- LANjackal
from IM
wait, you can rotate and resize photos with touch?! Amazing!
- Ben Reierson
LAN - I mean the way people use computers. The mouse/hard-keyboard UI is old fashioned, IMO
- Kurt Starnes
+++Krynsky "No Flash = TOTAL FAIL! It will be a long time for HTML 5 to take over. " -- The size of the tablet makes it a natural for web browsing - except for lack of flash support. It was disappointing in the iPhone but quite ridiculous in the iPad. I don't "love" flash but it's a fact of life on the web.
- Richard Walker
all my 12 yr old son plays these days is Modern Warfare 2
- Tim Jones
I'm with you on your commentary Allen...btw you going to SXSW? Good time having lunch with you last year.
- Mark Krynsky
Robert, that's just incidental, in the same way you'll probably watch less TV if you buy an ATV and decide to go riding around in it often. Doesn't mean the ATV and TV manufacturers are in competition. Sheesh
- LANjackal
from IM
Kurt - no; not around a laptop, but I do swing it around so the screen is facing my audience..
- Andrew Terry
A computer with a 1GHZ cpu. It's a bit 2001.
- Mark
LAN - And, I am hopeful that iPad is not locked down the way iPhone is!
- Kurt Starnes
I bet the HP Slate has flash *gunshots*
- LANjackal
from IM
iWork on the iPad....YAWN...what else?
- Mark Krynsky
Mark - I think we'll have to use one to make a reasonable judgment on the chip
- Kurt Starnes
Just saw the pics of the iPad over on Engadget. Sweet Jebus, that thing is ugly. It's got like 2 inches of border around the thing. From the pics, I'm betting it's locked down too, with apps from a new App Store. Epic Fail.
- Otto
Jobs hates flash, there was no way he would put it on this device
- Kim Landwehr
where is the camera?
- Markus Kobler
Thinking... The iPad attaches to your MacBook as a second display with seamless integration Photographers can edit photos directly with their fingers.
- Jon Winters
Kurt: It uses the iPhone OS, which means it'll probably also use the App Store. Which means it'll be just as locked down.
- LANjackal
from IM
Jon - that would be a) very cool and b) make total sense
- Andrew Terry
Biggest deal so far - unless it is still to come - no camera so no ichat
- Keith Teare
Otto: same app store.
- Robert Scoble
I have very little problem with the iPhone being locked down, so I doubt it will be an issue for me with the iPad.
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Jon Winters wifi 802.11n; still no price tho
- brainno722 (Peter)
Hah. $9.99 for iWork.
- Robert Scoble
That would make sense, actually
- LANjackal
from IM
No clear what screen res is. implied 2 x iphone 3gs, so 960x640???
- Keith Teare
Each app.
- Robert Scoble
sub-HD in other words, and not widescreen,
- Mark
.11n's an honest plus
- LANjackal
from IM
Ah - Kurt - he just said you can connect to a projector via a cable... problem solved
- Andrew Terry
Will be 3G models
- Kurt Starnes
subscription data. UGH!
- TranceMist
Unlimited Data plan for $29
- Kurt Starnes
Another monthly fee for you apple guys to get net
- Mark
no contract unlimited data!
- Vezquex
And can cancel anytime.
- Robert Scoble
All iPads unlocked GSM
- Kurt Starnes
This makes me want a MiFi.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
lan olm flood yapmayın flood banlarım sizi, bak hala la yörü
- Emre Savaş
250MB a month is lolable.
- Mark
Whats 250MB divided by 30 days ?
- Mark
Unless it's being sold through carriers (and hence subsidized) this thing's gonna be expensive. Def not an impulse by for most people
- LANjackal
from IM
I still do not understand why they can't make these things (both iPhone and this new thing) "sync" via WiFi. Why must I connect the thing to my computer? They're on the same network FFS! Making me use a USB cable is just frickin' stupid.
- Otto
Great deal on dataplan - I'll carry one around, may replace my laptop eventually
- Kurt Starnes
Data plans seem somewhat reasonable when you consider WiFi in most cases. Still in bed with AT&T though.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
less than 999
- Vezquex
Now I'm hearing $9.99 for apps ... guess how much I paid for the apps on my DROID? $0. The only apps I pay for now are Evernote and Office on my PC. Period.
- LANjackal
from IM
??!
- Vezquex
fuck year 500
- Vezquex
Well 499 is a different story.
- Todd Hoff
$499!!!!!!
- Kurt Starnes
Otto: probably because it might make DRM harder to implement. It's a lot easier to verify hardware that's physically connected to the machine, than to verify a client that you can't touch
- LANjackal
from IM
Sold!
- Kurt Starnes
$499!!! Suddenly it's a winner!
- Andrew Terry
$15 for 250MB is still overpriced. I get 1 GB for 10 EUR (pre-paid plan).
- Nils Sandin
$829 for 3G 64GB
- Kurt Starnes
2-3 months
- Vezquex
so at&t takes a hit on the monthly but gobbles up $130 extra per pad
- Allen Stern
too many models
- Bill Koslosky, MD
499 for 16 GB version...
- Wang Yip
$829 for the good one; NO CAMERA = underwhelming
- ryangraves
keyboard charging dock. clever girl
- Vezquex
You guys might wanna ask Sony how well a $499 price works for a non-PC mass market product.
- LANjackal
from IM
@LANjackal: The problem there is that that system backfires. I specifically do not buy media on the iTunes store because of the "must sync to the computer" problem. I don't connect my gear to my computer, ever. I haven't hooked my phone up since the first day I got the thing (and jailbroke it). I very likely never will hook it up again, because there's no point. Also, if they need verification, then a simple 2-key cryptographic system could be made to work easily enough.
- Otto
Are there iPhone apps for DSLR tethering?
- Jon Winters
Biggie Sized iPhone without the Phone ??????
- Owen Greaves
Optional solar-powered case? Wait for it... ;-)
- Ian McGee
Owen, with 3G model I am guessing one could connect with a Bluetooth earpiece
- Kurt Starnes
what happened to the remarkable UI?
- Bill Koslosky, MD
whats the big deal about sync to the computer, its not that hard, people make it sound like its worst then pulling teeth.
- Kim Landwehr
Owen, who said no phone? It has a microphone and 3G.
- Vezquex
I agree with you, Otto. I was only stating a reason for the lack of capability
- LANjackal
from IM
No camera is a blunder, IMO. Has no camera been confirmed?
- Kurt Starnes
Lanjackal: Zing!
- Joshua
The Cure?
- Jon Winters
$829!!?? EL OH EL that's more than my rent right now.
- LANjackal
from IM
No cloud and no wifi syncing sucks too. I hate plugging things in when there's perfectly good air all around me.
- Todd Hoff
Kurt: would you really use it as a camera? The form factor's totally wrong
- LANjackal
from IM
Still 1 app at a time?
- ryangraves
Wrong for that purpose, I meant
- LANjackal
from IM
+1 Otto - I use my iPhone daily and I haven't synced it in months. It's jailbroken. I also can't stand the regular iTunes updates I keep getting - they update the program more often than I start it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure people are looking for a webcam LAN, not a DSLR
- Daniel J. Pritchett
No multi-tasking? Are they serious? Holy hell, that's inane.
- Otto
my $300 netbook w/ Kindle for PC works for me
- Tim Jones
LAN -- for tele-Skype, yes.
- Kurt Starnes
Please, just improve the iPhone and iTouch. The first time you drop the iPad will be the last. The mobile sites for the NYTimes are good enough for me. I don't need the Flash ads. If you're in public, you can't set it down, you can't put it in your pocket.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Yep, iPad = Giant iPhone (exactly as I wanted / predicted) - didn't get camera tho = iFail
- Susan Beebe
K I'm with you guys on the webcam idea.
- LANjackal
from IM
Bill -- I don't have a very good record with any dropped computer, except iPhone and other cell phones, surviving drops.
- Kurt Starnes
aww, TWiT lost the feed.
- Vezquex
iPad = iMeh
- Bill Koslosky, MD
was that Leo Laporte filming?
- Vezquex
All things considered, I'm pretty underwhelmed... it's a big iPod, but not as portable.
- Andrew Terry
How long until I can run Android on it? :-P
- TranceMist
Can't wait to get a hold of one. Take care folks.
- Kurt Starnes
Should have shocked everyone with a name nobody expected: The iNewton
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No multitasking? Wow. How bad of a product release is this? A $500 - $830 device that's completely locked down and can't multitask or webcam? And as some people on Twitter are pointing out: iPad? Really? Were there any women in the original focus group?
- LANjackal
from IM
Everyone laughed at the Palm Folio.
- Jon Winters
AT&T sucks ass.
- Thomas Hawk
from iPhone
AT&T suckage depends on where you are. Here in Memphis, for example. AT&T is quite good. I get ridiculous speeds off the 3G and never have a dropped call. When I travel to Atlanta, the experience there is quite different.
- Otto
iPad is not the netbook killer
- Tim Jones
Kurt: I can only see this as a household device. If you prop this thing up with its case at a Starbucks table, looks like trouble. No video-conferencing, but prob in the next version.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Seems like a rushed product, better wait for iPad 2.0 perhaps?
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
I bet iPad is the netbook killer, Tim Jones.
- Vezquex
"I don't see this leaving the house too often," says Leo. But he thinks it's the "ultimate airplane device."
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Scoble's Nexus One ustream streaming quality is better than his iPad streaming quality right now
- Tim Jones
any announcments about iPhone's moving to other carriers?
- Amani
from IM
Expect an iPad killer from Google within 6 months.
- Jim Posner
Household users, Airplane users, student users, personal entertainment users, ebook reades, basic laptop users....that's a pretty huge market.
- Leif Hansen
New Apple Home Page http://www.apple.com/
- Rosalinda Mojarro
+1 Otto on the Memphis 3G. I get silky smooth service and I always have to remind myself about the problems in larger markets.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
What does this do for the Kindle, Nook and all the other e-ink readers? I'd say they're in trouble. Except for reading a textbook, I think a device just 2x larger than the iTouch would be more convenient.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
@Bill I'd agree mostly on the ebook readers. But there is something *really* nice on the eyes with e-ink that I'm hesitant to give up (and go back to zombie brain lit screens).
- Leif Hansen
Leo Laporte just said that it's an incredible device when you actually get your hands on it... beautiful, light, incrediblly responsive screen... I'll wait until I get to play with one before judging on what it lacks, and whether or not that's detrimental
- .LAG liked that
Apple stock went from being down to now being up $3.12. As soon as the price came out the stock turned and went up.
- Thomas Hawk
iPad does not support T-Mobile's 1700 GHz 3G frequencies
- TranceMist
Ummmm ok ... I can think of many incredible, beautiful devices that I have no use for. This is another one of them. The iPhone, yes. The iPad? No. Not at that price point, at least
- LANjackal
from IM
Thomas ...isn't a lot of the stock movement in the last couple of hours really just speculators betting on what was going to officially get announced today?
- .LAG liked that
Is there a GPS?
- Todd Hoff
No shit it doesn't. T-Mobile's gone all in with Android
- LANjackal
from IM
I didn't hear when Apple would allow people to order the iPad. Did anyone else?
- Jeff P. Henderson
the specs dont list GPS capabilities. Am I wrong ?
- Kashif Khan
Jeff: I think someone said 1 - 3 months earlier in the thread
- LANjackal
from IM
@.LAG liked that, I think the stock move has to do with the price. The market liked the $499 price more than the speculated higher $1,000 price. It was down until the price was announced then it turned up.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas... makes sense. $499 is a price that will probably move lots of units
- .LAG liked that
No it won't. Ask Sony what happened with their $500 price point for the PS3. $500 is not an impulse buy. For that you have to be at $299 or below
- LANjackal
from IM
The only thing this will kill is a lot of iFanboy egos.
- JCunwired
Giant iPod. Hopefully an OS refresh will unlock some goodness. Otherwise? This is a shiny paperweight.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
+1
- LANjackal
from IM
They've not updated the UK store yet with info about the ipad. A little let down about the lack of bluetooth connection to a dekstop/laptop mac for use as an input device. Also, not bothered about the 3G version as I'd rather buy a mifi and use that saving myself cash and letting more devices access the net on the go ;)
- alphaxion
Oh. And KILLER wood paneling!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Next? Steve Jobs brings back the <BLINK> tag.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
It would be cool if I could get a mifi-type device with a $15/30 per month no-contract billing option. That would make all of these devices tempting.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
here in the UK 3 offer a mifi with a 1 month rolling contract, 5Gb per month limit with £40 up front for the mifi or a pay as you go mifi for £70 up front
- alphaxion
That sounds sweet alpha, I think here it's like $60/mo. with a long-term contract. Let me double-check that. Edit: Looks like the minimum mifi contract is $40/mo. for 250MB and it doesn't say how long the contract lasts. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
http://www.three.co.uk/Mobile_... once I get myself a job I'll be buying one.
- alphaxion
yikes! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Hawk
LOL Thomas! I wonder if this new line of product is capable of reaching 3G-spots?
- JCunwired
orange
- Mike Chelen
This was always Steve's/Apple's vision, 20 years on will work??? of course it will Apple have got the consumer mesmerized.
- VirtualPeople
Our post-keynote discussion with Google's Don Dodge and str.ate.gy's Elizabeth Brooks is here: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde...
- Robert Scoble
BWAHAHAHAH! The iPad, with built in virus protection! LOL... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Otto
Good points over on Gizmodo as to why it is not a complete win.
- Martha
sen de mi be hacı
- dolly
bi sktrgit be rabırt... doyamadınız apple a... veriyim bi kasa elma, doya doya yiyin, nedir yani?
- Sado Yasutora [メーメット]
hahaha yasu budur ahahahahaha:D
- dolly
dimi ama dolim, haketmedi mi?
- Sado Yasutora [メーメット]
valla bu apple manyakları dünyayı sarmış bizimkilere de elma lazım haklısın tabiyki dee
- dolly
How to use iPad-->http://ff.im/eX6qo
- Yunus YAMANER (CITRIL)
everybody must read it! must!!!
- Sado Yasutora [メーメット]
is there no way of buying the low end model and adding in an sdxc card to bump it up to 64GB? Having no camera is ridiculous and as usual you are locked into the apple ecosystem. Once again you either love the way they do things or you don't. It will be a popular device, but I'm always amazed at how many people are quite happy with Apple's walled garden. This is what killed them in the...
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- Phil Ashman
There is an SD card reader peripheral included.
- Vezquex
:)
- ★ Soner Gönül
hmm... it also doesn't look like it supports multiple user profiles and it's *still* tethered to a single machine with itunes.
- alphaxion
Orange. The tablet still doesn't work well as the video livestream interface between my DVCam and whatever RMTP server I need to transmit to. Seriously whatever, as far as I'm concerned.
- Rich Reader
I *gulp* miss Scoble.
- Kevin Fox
Embarrassing photo meme. That's me on the left, DJ Jack Friday on the right.
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Well played, sir!
- Josh Haley
Wow Leo, that's vintage and precious.
- RODNEY OLIVER
Whoo, Leo! Way to mix it up with the common folk!
- Akiva
That photo is WIN!
- Eric
When is that Leo? I'm guessing 1978 or so?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Slow and clear.. and with a blue vest
- Rhys Amos
Woah...he MEMED! respect
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Dear Leo, I love you to death, however, please let your darling daughter know Monaco is not an island off the coast of France and yes, Monte Carlo is the capitol. My daughter is the same age and we are starting to shop college's as well. I wish you the best of luck finding a school that suits her well. I was an exchange student as well and found it the best experience ever!
- Jennifer Ragde
Okay, now my computer politically correct daughter is telling me this was not the correct way to state my opinion as I should have commented on the photograph. I'm really sorry, I love to listen to your broadcasts, but I really am computer retarded so please forgive me if I have transgressed in any manner. I can't even upload photographs without her help! Really, you don't look dapper,...
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- Jennifer Ragde
LOL Jennifer and +1 for your daughter. :)
- Josh Haley
You look so dapper, Leo!!
- Mona Nomura
go leo!
- sean percival
That's awesome
- Jesse Stay
lookin good ..
- Saad Kamal
Outstanding, Mr Laporte. You can see the in dream there. Potential and promise sporting a tank-top.
- Dan Biddle
Those pants look like they may be restricting blood flow a little bit... Also, sweet chalk board! Haven't seen one of those in years!
- Mark
I hardly recognised you. It maybe your outfit but you look older in this photo
- Kevin J Hatton
Taken at a radio station? (based on blackboard notes) Wait. BLACKBOARD??? Wow. :)
- caj needs a haircut
Excellent sweater vest there, Leo!
- John Lutz
That's on handsome man! lol
- Melissa Goetsch
Leo, you were one hot stack if pancakes back in the day!!
- Erik Boles
Not to nitpick or anything, but Monaco is the name of the state and the capital city. Monte Carlo is just one of city's administrative areas :)
- Dorian
It's 1985 or 1986. I was 28 or 29. And an utter dork.
- Leo Laporte
This vintage is good stuff!
- Jackie Miao
not vintage but funny - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Mike Bracco
Okay. Leo you rock! Let me get that out of the way. But you look like Susan Boyle in this photo. Sorry, someone had to throw it out there. ;-)
- Oracio
LEO: if this was a family photo I think it might make it on to the hilarious site that aggregates awkward family photos: http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/ must check this out! :)
- Mike Bracco
Not a family photo - it's a work photo. That's from KLOK-FM San Francisco.
- Leo Laporte
Leo: I know, I was just saying if it was :)
- Mike Bracco
What's that funny lookin thing in the background?
- Daniel James
Daniel.. I think that is what was known as a monochrome display. They were all the rage back then apparently.
- Rhys Amos
Your hair wasn't even real back then! :P
- Kreg Steppe
I think his hair looks better now
- Jim Hague
Dear Dorian, I stand corrected. I was just stunned that someone thought Monaco was an island. When I was in high school (when Dinosaurs roamed the earth, ha ha!), we had to memorize the world in geography. I guess times have changed.
- Jennifer Ragde
LOL, I took all those old photos of me and hid them deep!
- Lillian Banchik
OMG I just found this... *DEAD*
- Johnny
Oh wow, totally 80s, fer shure. :P
- Mol, FF Music Lover
You looked smart and confident :) Great photo! Thanks for sharing!
- mahjongmi
Kevin Spacey is now really Kevin Spacey on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/KevinSp...
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Red Bull: It may 'Give You Wings' but it also tastes like ice cold horse piss...
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Can't even stand the smell of the stuff. Blech!
- FFing Enigma
I mix Red Bull/Peach juice in a 1:3 combination, because of that exact reason.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I actually drank an energy drink a few days ago that was good, and didn't have a lot of sugar in it. It was some MLM deal a prospect is pitching. Pepped me up a bit.
- Jason Nunnelley
beard
- sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!
I would contend that "energy" drinks are also pretty damn unhealthy for us (humans).
- George S.
thats been banned by some nations for containing cocaine, :o http://www.webcrawler.com/webcraw...
- chaz2b
I want to know where he stores the horse piss so it can become ice cold... but yes, they are nasty tasting
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It tastes like liquid rockets to me.
- Joshua Schnell
Megen says it tastes like fruit vomit. I agree
- Benjamin Golub
Ahh! CW you stole my question. >.<
- Matt Ruiz
Coffee tastes so much better, Johnny. Why the energy drink? WHY??
- Ayşe E.
But it turns into magical horse piss when mixed with vodka... :-p
- Live4Emma (L4S)
from iPhone
You, sir, are wrong. http://friendfeed.com/silas21...
- Steven Perez
Absolutely love Red Bull, especially the original non-carbonated Thai alternative.
- Andrew Trinh
How do you know what cold horse piss tastes like?
- Sparky, lurking
I want to pet your beard. Does it purr?
- iTad
Sparky: he's had Fosters before. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
No way dude.
- Chris Spizzirri
I'm partial to Rockstar or orange AMP, which both taste great in comparison to Red Bull. Energy Drinks really help with the data entry job. They keep me from zoning out too much. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Monster > Red Bull (though, Red Bull doesn't taste *that* bad)
- Brett Kelly
HAHAHAHAHAHA I'd rather lick my dirty car window than drink Red Bull. I prefer Diet Rock Star
- Gabrielle
I'd rather have these for energy on the go. They taste much better. http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffein...
- April
I love that someone with 18 followers just unfollowed me because she thinks I don't know how to use social media...
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That happens to me all the time.
- Robert Scoble
Does anyone "really" know how to use social media?
- David Damore
lol, that's hilarious!
- Melissa Cherry
Looks like Scoble beat me on getting the first comment ;)
- David Damore
It's the noobs like Guy who ruin it for the rest of us. :)
- Chris Foley
David - That's probably because you don't know how to use social media! ;-)
- Herb Hernandez
How do you even know that? You have almost 155K followers. How do you track who comes and goes, let alone their reason?
- Chris Spizzirri
Chris: ever hear of @replies? I see everything you say about me.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe you were really annoying and just posted link after link after link after link. Are YOU the example of what's correct in the world of social media? Is someone with 18 followers somehow wrong>
- Tyler Hurst
@Herb Hernandez Ouch ;) ;)
- David Damore
Scoble: Of course I've heard of @replies. Seems condescending for you to ask. Either way, Guy didn't say that's how he knew, so I asked rather than assumed.
- Chris Spizzirri
I personally AM willing to assume that Guy knows about @replies. Just saying...
- Chris Foley
Of course he does. We all do. But discounting someone with a limited number of followers smacks of condescension. Nice attitude.
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler: sorry, but sometimes that attitude is correct. Why does everyone's opinion count equally? And here it didn't seem to be condescension, but rather a blowback. Anyone who says they are unfollowing is being a jerk. Just unfollow quietly. Someone who says they are unfollowing intends to injure and SHOULD be met with condescension.
- Robert Scoble
Not only does Guy know how to use Social Media, so do the people who tweet for him!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Garin: that actually was Guy. When his staff tweets for him they include their initials after the Tweet.
- Robert Scoble
Here's an interesting argument: I agree mostly with Scoble here, but there is a communication issue in business today. Most people, when faced with a "bad" experience, they will simply discontinue patronizing that business. They will then tell all of their friends about the bad experience. This behavior creates a churn that's very difficult to track and understand. I personally love any...
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- Chris Foley
Robert - I agree with you in part. I hate people who announce they are unfollowing, but also can't stand people who then complain about that same thing. Guy did the near equivalent of what the first person did. Shouldn't we expect more from you popular kids?
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler: no, we're human and we like lashing back just as much as anyone else does.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - okay, but we still can and should hold people like you, guy, brogan and others to a higher standard. It's just part of leading the charge.
- Tyler Hurst
Should we be thrusting the mantle of "role model" on these guys because they were here first, and caught fire?
- Chris Foley
Chris - oh heck no. Not role model. I don't think we should aspire to BE them, but we should expect more from them.
- Tyler Hurst
Chris: people with a big audience do have a bigger responsibility, yes. But then if we stop taking risks and stop being human we get boring and then we'll do no one any good. Personally Guy is making a point tonight. Those on Twitter are often full of crap and who said that people who are full of crap should be listened to, or engaged with, or even coddled? Anyway, I'm off to bed.
- Robert Scoble
um, I just wanted to Tweet to Guy that we're all talking about him over on his FriendFeed account. See ya!
- Robert Scoble
And that last statement is why most of us don't have to worry about Scoble fading out or becoming irrelevant. Nice.
- Tyler Hurst
Scoble, I don't expect anything more from you because you have a larger audience, but I do recognize (as you obviously also do) that you have a bigger opportunity for positive (or negative) impact. I like my leaders as real as can be, and that includes the occasional barking. Keep taking risks, and thanks to you and Guy for having your necks out there.
- Chris Foley
Thats amazing, saying that to guy with 154,953 Twitter followers
- Luis Torres
Hmmm. interesting conversation here. So, what really is Guy' problem? someone unfollowing him, or someone with ONLY 18 followers unfollowing him? seems to be the latter! I like how @scobelizer just generalized everyone on twitter as full of crap. Amazing!!!
- Ramesh Prabhu
Ramesh - I'm mostly full of crap. I have 2300ish followers. Does that make me important at all?
- Tyler Hurst
Luis - who cares about followers?
- Tyler Hurst
Scoble: I meant you were being condescending to me by asking if I knew about @replies. I expect Guys know about them also. Incidentally, your opinion (or the opinion of the other elites) is no better than anyone else's. Just because someone only has 18 followers doesn't mean they deserve your condescension, nor do they deserve it if they choose to announce the reason for their decision...
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- Chris Spizzirri
Chris Spizzirri, don't you think you're taking that comment a little bit personally? What Scoble said to you seemed a bit tongue in cheek to me. But to you it was condescending, which means he's an a-hole (your words.) That's a pretty big character judgement made from one 4 word sentence.
- Chris Foley
and.... crickets from Scoble. Typical.
- Chris Spizzirri
Chris: I am potty training my two year old and responding to other things than your condescension.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I love how someone with a billion followers on twitter asks how to follow on FriendFeed :)
- Robert Higgins
Spizzirri - Hey, thanks for taking over the biggest douchebag in the thread from me! Some ppl's opinions ARE less important than others.
- Tyler Hurst
brush it off - you're the man!
- shaun mclane
Chris Foley, no the character judgement was not made from a 4 word sentence, but from the entire thread, and who do you think is making the character judgment here? who's making the assumption that someone with only 18 followers knows nothing? who's making the assumption that no on on twitter knows diddly squat? Gimme a break!
- Ramesh Prabhu
Scoble: Try paying attention to your kid and ignore the internets for a minute. OK? Also, try being less arrogant.
- Chris Spizzirri
@Chris Foley: No I don't. He was being condescending. Read the whole thread.
- Chris Spizzirri
It's so cute that Spizzirri gets so mad at Scoble.
- Tyler Hurst
@Tyler: You're welcome, and you've proven your own point! Well done!
- Chris Spizzirri
@Tyler: What's it like being a Scoble fanboy?
- Chris Spizzirri
I did read the whole thread (Chris Spizzirri and Remesh Prabhu). I've been in since the 5th comment. I don't see people being condescending here. I see people airing their opinions. I also see you and Remesh putting words into the mouths of others. If I disagree with you, am I also condescending? Chris Spizzirri seems to me to be looking for a fight here, he's now lashing out and...
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- Chris Foley
@Chris - WTF are you talking about? Now you're going after me? Man, you're a dick!
- Tyler Hurst
I don't like being condescended to, that's what's under my skin. How is Scoble asking me if I've ever "heard of @replies" not condescending? If I'm on FF, it's safe to assume I know about and understand Twitter. Moreover, as I pointed out, Guy never said he knew from an @reply--Scoble assumed that. I was just asking a question, but got his smarmy reply.
- Chris Spizzirri
It takes arrogance to tell me to stop being arrogant.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Tyler - "It's so cute that Spizzirri gets so mad at Scoble" and "Spizzirri - Hey, thanks for taking over the biggest douchebag in the thread from me! Some ppl's opinions ARE less important than others." How again are you surprised that I don't like you?
- Chris Spizzirri
Chris, we're clearly very different guys here. If Scoble ribs me, I'm going to rib him back. I'm not going to get all bent out of shape, and get angry, and in getting angry, become a bigger jerk in retaliation than he was being in the first place. When I see you getting all pissed of because of some opinion that a stranger has, I have to wonder what is wrong with you, not wrong with that stranger and his silly opinion.
- Chris Foley
@Scoble: "It takes arrogance to tell me to stop being arrogant." I don't agree. How do you figure?
- Chris Spizzirri
Um @Chris, hate to break it to you, but Scoble's first comment wasn't condescending toward you, he was trying to make a point. I never said I was surprised, I just said you were a dick. Thanks for helping degrade the conversation!
- Tyler Hurst
people are people so why should it be you and i should get along so awfully
- Robert Higgins
It takes arrogance to disagree with someone who is arrogant too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I disagree with that statement :)
- Chris Saad
Chris Tyler is right. You are overreacting to my prod.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Could be that the person with only 18 followers has a kind of native wisdom we all might learn something from, hey? ;-)
- Kathy Fitch
Scoble seems to be in a bunch of flamewars and arguments lately, like, within the last month. I think it's all a big experiment.
- Eric Florenzano
@Chris Foley: Fair enough, but things that Scoble says get under my skin more than someone else because of his stature. I think his comment was rude. If you had said that to me I likely wouldn't have paid any mind, but when Scoble treats people like that it's different. Whether he likes it or not, he's made himself an ambassador here, and wisecracks to newcomers aren't very diplomatic....
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- Chris Spizzirri
Yawn. All this over someone unfollowing Guy.
- Rick Cogley
You started it by not understanding how I could see everything said about me. That demonstrated you haven't learned about how @ replies work. That is all.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scoble: "It takes arrogance to disagree with someone who is arrogant too." You've just restated what you said before, but you haven't explained. I understand what you are saying: I must be arrogant to say that you are. What's the basis for your claim: "It takes one to know one"? Do you have something more substantial?
- Chris Spizzirri
@Chris Spizzirri. Thanks for your last explanation. I appreciate that kind of straight communication. I find that a lot more productive than when we resort to finger pointing and name calling. I also don't disagree with you there.
- Chris Foley
Chris: don't you get I am just poking you?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Why don't boy fights ever involve anything interesting, like jello or something. Sigh.
- Kathy Fitch
2 X Chris UFFFFFFFF
- Johni Fisher
@Tyler - Pretty sure the sentence "Now you're going after me?" indicates surprise, but thanks for calling me a dick without provocation. Boy, this is my first real foray into a FF conversation, and it sure seems like mob mentality dominates.
- Chris Spizzirri
Kathy: those are on my pay-per-view channel. Chris: geesh, two people are now a mob? And +I+ am arrogant?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Whipped cream could also work.
- Kathy Fitch
No @Chris, you just don't understand how to participate in a threaded conversation with multiple people. It's not personal until you make it. Learn to banter. Learn to see beyond the literal definition. LIGHTEN UP. @kathy, how about something manly, like caramel?
- Tyler Hurst
I dunno, Robert, some things just can't be purchased, but must emerge naturally. Or so I think.
- Kathy Fitch
But I like red jello. Just FYI.
- Kathy Fitch
As it happens, caramel could totally work. Is butterscotch manly? It does have "scotch" in it.
- Kathy Fitch
Okay, the value of this thread has petered out for me. Thanks all for sticking with it. And Kathy, thanks for making me hungry.
- Chris Foley
@Foley did you say you're UNFOLLOWING our conversation? The other @Chris might see that as condescending. Please apologize.
- Tyler Hurst
@Scoble - again with the condescension. I know how @ replies work. I already said that. Guy didn't say that's how he knew, so I asked how he knew. You started it by assuming it was via @ reply. I sure hope this is an experiment of your's (as someone suggested above), and that you're not really this much of a jerk to people who disagree with you. I've had a boat load of fun here in FF...
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- Chris Spizzirri
Any time, Chris. Robert, I suggest posting a sample on B43. That would go viral, for sure.
- Kathy Fitch
@Chris, if your friends are anything like you, we'll all be sure to ridicule them.
- Tyler Hurst
Spizzirri: I looked again at this thread and all I see is YOUR condescension. Geesh. I have explained what I meant and you just turned up the heat hotter. Why?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Alright, I'm at a disadvantage, because FF stops updating the thread and I miss out on replies while I'm typing. Replies that would be enlightening. @Scoble - maybe I was being too sensitive, but you should be more aware of how the things you write are interpreted. Sarcasm is the most difficult thing to convey in writing and is prone to misinterpretation. I didn't come here to get in a...
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- Chris Spizzirri
Chris: I have no idea whether you are a newbie or not. If you are met with an arrogant (to you) reply the RIGHT answer is to ask questions and explain yourself, not to start throwing bombs.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ryo: hint. Guy was making a bigger point than the number of followers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
you are the leper of social media... mmmm (where's the savior?)
- Jeffrey T. Sooey
It depends on your definition of 'use', I suppose.
- Will Higgins™
@Scoble- I did ask questions and explain myself. How arrogant of you to tell me what the "RIGHT answer" is despite constantly saying 'no one is a social media expert.' I guess you've decide you are now, huh? I have a right to say I thought your reply was rude. What gives you the right to tell me how to interact with ppl here? This is no different than a conversation in person, and I can...
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- Chris Spizzirri
Spizzirri... When an argument flares up, the wise man quenches it with silence. @scoble is prodding you, and not going to be silent. How about you? I know I am ;)
- Ramesh Prabhu
No jello, yet? (Drumming fingers and yawning.)
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy I just blocked that dude so we can bring out the jello.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Ramesh - I'm evidently not very wise, but I'm going to take your advice. I think I'm guilty of assuming that Scoble would be better than an average person because he's in a position of prominence. That's my mistake. I apologize for my faulty assumption and for ruining this thread. Good night.
- Chris Spizzirri
He blocked me. What a jerk. I hope this is a lesson to anyone as naive as I was 2 hours ago--Scoble, at least, feels entitled in this space to your deference. Be wary of questioning him or anything he says.
- Chris Spizzirri
lolwut
- Rodfather
Rodfather: what flavor of jello would you like to throw at me? I am throwing lime.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Who are you exactly ? Are you familiar with Twitter, FF and other ICQ ? :-)
- Pierre-Olivier Carles
Yay--no orange, that's all I ask. It's a childhood thing--long and painful story. Suffice it to say that it would utterly destroy the moment. Lime, though, is a good thing.
- Kathy Fitch
If I had jello, I'd be nom'ing it right now. Mandarin orange jello sounds good right now.
- Rodfather
Rodfather: that is why I picked lime. I don't like that flavor and would rather throw it. By the way, I have blocked that Chris dude to save him the pain of having to deal with me.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Always someone who insists on orange. I'm wounded to the very core.
- Kathy Fitch
Grinning and throwing orange jello at Rodfather.
- Kathy Fitch
I question @Scoble's decision to waste perfectly good lime jello. @kathy, i have cherry. FIGHT!
- Tyler Hurst
I just utterly approve of edible weaponry.
- Kathy Fitch
Wow! This thread just became a microcosmic example of why there will always be social and political factions! One seemingly humorous (and innocent) comment is attributed with all sorts of vile motivations, and then those supposed motivations are constructed into a "villain" born of their own attitude, and then the "villain" manufactured by their own imagination is in turn attacked because they don't like the image they're projecting onto him/her/it ... amazing, just amazing! *shakes head and walks away*
- Mark J
I find it hilarious that Chris Spizzirri is an attorney.
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler: throw some lime jello at him for me!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
At the ER with my wife. Glad I have something to entertain me for the 3+ hours it has been thusfar.
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
an attorney who studies Zen, no less.
- Chris Foley
@herb, glad to have helped entertain, I hope you and your wife are okay?
- Chris Foley
you guys
- Paul Greer
Ha!
- Charlie Anzman
# of followers has nothing to do with your understanding of social media. I think some people who claim they know how to use it think its just for spamming and promotion.
- Thac0
I think there is some danger of flooding the zone with tweets. Think about it from a person following just a small handful of people on twitter. If one person is supplying 95% of the tweets they get, it's likely to be really frustrating.
- Trent Hamm
I hate people who Direct Message you, yet you can't reply
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Well, Twitter used to allow them to reply (for a short period of time) in the summer. I keep asking Twitter to bring that functionality back but Evan keeps ignoring me.
- Tamar Weinberg
Honestly, I'm to blame for that kind of thing a lot of the time. But while I follow less than 8% of who follows me, I just don't want to follow them indefinitely for a variety of reasons - 1. More unsolicited DMs than *I* can handle. 2. Noisy Twitter feed. 3. They may be interested in what I tweet, but the feeling isn't mutual. Nothing personal - I just wish Twitter restored that functionality. It really rocked.
- Tamar Weinberg
twitter should take a clue from the downloadable tweetscan archive and let us 1. keep our DMs (sent/received), 2. keep our conversations!
Louis Gray and Mr. BabyMan liked this
Totally!
- Yuvi
Digg this if your sick of power users stealing stories. - http://digg.com/tech_ne...
Mr. BabyMan liked this
"The "anecdote" quoted in this petition is from Digg user http://digg.com/users... who says "Back around February or March of this year, I submitted something I thought was pretty cool that had a decent chance of making the front page. I did it on break at work and checked digg when I got home to see how it did. The story made it to the front page allright, but it was a submission made after mine from MrBabyMan that used the same exact story with a slightly different URL." Looking through his submissions for that period http://digg.com/users... ... there are NO submissions in common with any FP stories by MrBabyMan. However going back a few submissions from there, danielrh9 DID submit this story http://digg.com/comedy... ... which was a dupe of this earlier submission http://digg.com/comedy... ... . So not only is this anecdote a complete fabrication, but the commenter is a hypocrite."
- J.D. Rucker
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