The John Wilbanks response is to the RFI for publications not data, I think. There are indeed lots of responses to the publications RFI available out there.... far fewer data responses. I saw an inventory of publication responses, will try to find and post for reference...
- Heather Piwowar
Oops, my bad, didn't read carefully enough.
- Bill Hooker
Going to have to write my data one on the train tomorrow I think. No time at the moment.
- Cameron Neylon
It was Michael Kuhn who pointed out to me over the holiday break that both Elsevier and Macmillan (parent company of Nature Publishing Group) were listed as supporters of the Stop Online Piracy Act. If you don't know about SOPA and why it is one of the most politically and legislatively incompetent actions of ...
- Cameron Neylon
We should start collecting such instances right away - if SOPA comes, we'll take down all these sites and post the papers that we've secretly downloaded before in our libraries :-)
- Björn Brembs
I am a bad, bad person. Trolling the big pigs for SOPA violations seems like an awful lot of fun.
- RepoRat
This is why we need to be able to "like" comments, RepoRat,
- Mr. Gunn
note, Macmillan US and Macmillan Ltd (our and NPG's parent company) are separate companies ... Macmillan US being the one listed, if I'm reading correctly ...
- Kaitlin Thaney
I don't mean to poke you in the eye about this, Kaitlin. I think you're one of the good ones, but if Nintendo can reverse their support, so can Macmillan (US). I think people understand that SOPA is a US law, too, even though it would have widespread effects.
- Mr. Gunn
Completely understand :) Just clarifying that this is not our parent company, nor Nature's. Still doesn't make it right, but just to make sure the 2 aren't conflated (common mistake often made).
- Kaitlin Thaney
If you look at the publishers "supporting" SOPA through the Association of American Publishers it gets even more insane, a whole bunch of university presses and smaller societies that could be at real risk from this. http://publishers.org/members... I can't help but feel that a bunch of members telling the AAP to withdraw would be a good thing.
- Cameron Neylon
I'm not sure I like the idea of paying, especially on a monthly basis for a subscription, once I have to foot the bill, and also if free cloud-based services exist and can do a half decent job...
- Jason Snyder
I'm more worried about the NIH devoting itself to one provider... people should have the freedom to pick a ELN that suites them, and the organization should be careful not to fall for the Vendor Lockin trap... they should pick a provider that strongly supports Open Standards...
- Egon Willighagen
Personally I would run screaming in the opposite direction at this point. Trying to standardise across the NIH with anything that describes itself as an ELN is very like to be a disaster IMO
- Cameron Neylon
from twhirl
data portability is the keystone for software selection, because however perfectly any program meets today's standards, in the future those requirements are sure to change
- Mike Chelen
I May give ELNs a try, just to see what I'm missing, but you all bring up some key points that make them pretty unattractive. I think the take home message for me is to spend a few hours deciding how exactly to best organize my lab notebook. Currently, it's a mix of lab books, sheets of paper, google calendar, google notebook (which isn't even being maintained by google), and a bunch of files stored remotely via dropbox...all the info's there, just not so cohesive.
- Jason Snyder
I've been working with a small outfit called BioKM to get them to support data portability and open standards, but so far I haven't been able to get much of a committment from them regarding how open data and data portability fits into their roadmap. Hopefully this thread will help them see the importance. (In case anyone's wondering, that's my strategy to get more support for open science - help the service providers get a clue about what customers want in this regard)
- Mr. Gunn
Gunn: what do you recommend for data potability? XML maybe? We just released Samples (scimatic.com/samples) and I'd like to look into doing more in regards to data portability
- Jamie McQuay
from iPhone
I would have said XML some year ago, but now I'd say RDF using Open Specification namespaces, like FOAF, DOAP, Dublin Core, BIBO, ...
- Egon Willighagen
Egon: thanks for the info, will be looking into more exportability in our next point release of Samples.
- Jamie McQuay
+1 Egon, and thanks. RDF FTW I need to turn on comment notification or something.
- Mr. Gunn
Followup the NIH evaluation process, recently the Scientific Directors have decided that each researcher is free to choose the electronic lab notebook that best suites their needs. During the committee evaluation, Sparklix e-Notebook received high praises for its ease of use, reach functionality and the included support. this electronic lab notbook is free, I would give it a try - http://www.sparklix.com/signup
- Roi Paz
Thanks! I have also uploaded it to http://www.youtube.com/watch... and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki... . We have the audio and video files separately, so if anyone would like to go for a translation or other modification, that should be facilitated. Just looking for a good place where to put these additional files.
- Daniel Mietchen
Dear Open Science Friends -- I am going up for tenure this semester at the University of New Mexico, Dept. Physics. External letters are one of the most important components of my dossier. I am thinking that a co-signed letter from friends I've met in the Open Science community would be highly valued by those people evaluating my tenure case.
I am hoping that some of you would be willing to draft and co-sign a letter of support to be sent to my tenure committe--if so, I would be deeply grateful. Based on e-interactions with me, and in-person at ScienceOnline2010/2011 and ScienceCommons 2010 (Seattle), I think maybe some of you would have positive things to say about my research (I consider our lab's work in open notebook science, open data, etc. to be research) and service (promoting open science being external service).
- Steve Koch
The committee wants to see specifically: "..evaluation of the quality, importance, and impact of his research and scholarship, and, if possible, a comparison with other physicists at similar stages in their academic careers." and "...Any comments you wish to make based on your knowledge of his teaching, interaction with students, mentorship, and service will also be appreciated."
- Steve Koch
The standard method in our department is to mail letter requests to specific individuals, and to request hard copy signed letters. I've been thinking about this, and while I could ask one of you individually, it seems to me more appropriate, more powerful, and more fun to seek a co-signed letter. This has the risk of the various evaluation committees ignoring the letter, though. One...
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- Steve Koch
If anyone has better ideas, or knows of earlier examples of this from other universities, please post on here, or email me at stevekochscience@gmail.com
- Steve Koch
I am really grateful for the years of support I've received from many of you open science supporters in my early career. I know I've been super-lucky to even land the tenure-track job and have always known that. I know that tenure would be a huge gift that is not something I deserve or am entitled to. Instead, I look at it as part of the way things work now, and being awarded tenure...
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- Steve Koch
So what am I asking? Without better ideas for how to do this: I am asking for people in the "open science" community who feel they are familiar with some of my lab's open science or my teaching of open science to state a willingness to be a co-signer of a tenure support letter. Then I am asking that group of people to nominate one person to provide the official letterhead and sign (with...
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- Steve Koch
They are looking at October 1 for deadline. Thank you thank you all! And like I said suggestions for a better process are welcomed!
- Steve Koch
Do biologists qualify? If so, count me in.
- Pawel Szczesny
@Pawel, absolutely! And Thank you! Everyone counts--all fields of academia (people that come to mind immediately are biology, neuroscience, physics, chemistry, library science), industry, and even those who may not currently have a paid position, but are active open science supporters.
- Steve Koch
Count me in, natch. Regarding process: I think you are right to want individual letters from "high status" folks, to stay in the comfort zone of your committee. I suggest that the individual letters be different from the co-signed letter, which is a great idea and could be mentioned in the individual letters as "an instance of the wide web of collaborative opportunity opened up by Dr...
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- Bill Hooker
Do you have any ppt or whatever of your scio10 or scio11 presentations handy? Was there a recording? I'd be happy to do up a short letter and certainly to cosign a joint letter.
- John Dupuis
I'm in. I've served on tenure case and appointments-and-promotions committees, so I suspect a group-signed letter won't have as much weight as individual letters from as high up the academic feeding chain as you can go. Send me out-of-band email at gezelter@nd.edu if you want to discuss.
- Dan Gezelter
I tend to agree with Dan. I'm more than happy to sign a community letter, though.
- Egon Willighagen
I've never met you personally, so I don't think I should sign any individual letter, but I'd co-sign a letter of course! Just lt us know how you plan on doing that and I'll be there.
- Björn Brembs
I'd be happy to help, in any way. I'm so sorry to be a biologist, but at least of a physicist descent (my father), so maybe...? :)
- Marcin
I'll happily sign, not high up the feeding chain though I'm afraid :D
- science3point0
OK, here's a start: http://piratepad.net/DpuxZJT... I haven't written tenure case letters before so it may need considerable chopping about, but at least we can get started.
- Bill Hooker
Bill -- That is amazing! Thank you so much! That is wonderfully written and I appreciate it deeply. I've only been in a few departments in my young career, but I can tell you that UNM's physics department is full of faculty that care deeply about education and doing research for the benefit of society. So, I am confident that many of those voting on tenure will be very impressed by the...
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- Steve Koch
@Marcin I love interdisciplinary! Actually our science is focused on biology and have had students in the lab from biology, biomedical sciences, mechanical engineering, biomedical engineering, physics, and optical engineering. Moreover, I don't worry about the departments or academia / industry--with open science, we almost automatically ignore those credentials--while hard-earned,...
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- Steve Koch
@Dan Thank you for the experienced perspective! I've sent you an email with further thoughts / questions. I do accept the reality that I need those high-on-the-chain letters. And will seek those for sure. My gut is still telling me that at least for my department, a co-signed letter will add a lot of value, especially a letter such as Bill has drafted. I think for sure after the dust...
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- Steve Koch
@ John -- thank you for offering to co-sign! This is the only video I'm aware of (I think you were there & also my APOLOGIES for inadvertent slam on library journals!). That was the "data discoverability" session in 2011 and it was a ton of fun for me. Here is the link http://friendfeed.com/kochlab... and here are my notes from the session (with links) http://openwetware.org/wiki...
- Steve Koch
Here are my notes (with links) for the ScienceOnline2011 Data Discoverability session: and here are my notes from the session (with links) http://openwetware.org/wiki...
- Steve Koch
@others who've piped in--thank you! I am excited to have this support
- Steve Koch
Steve - I'm happy to co-sign but I do agree with Dan that individual letters are generally preferred. But if your tenure committee is saying that this is the way to go, definitely follow their direction.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
I'm happy to sign as well. Best of luck, Steve.
- Mr. Gunn
Now that people are back from science online, *bump*
- Bill Hooker
Thank you everyone! Jonathan Eisen has graciously signed and mailed in a snail mail copy of the open letter to my committee. I don't expect to hear anything about it (positive/negative/neutral) until December, maybe January. I will of course update you with any news. Thank you again, everyone: so much support made me feel great!
- Steve Koch
Heh, I know I'm kinda spamming everyone with this, but just wanted to make sure everyone in their disparate timezones and attention windows got a chance to see it.
- Mr. Gunn
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- Mr. Gunn
Pull quote: "So I think Google+ is mainly about providing Google with enormous amounts of data that it can analyse to determine social signals for search, to understand Q&A social behaviour, to find out how people are grouped and interconnected, and to have data to drive social driven re-ranking and display. But most importantly by far, it gives Google the beginnings of data to optimise ads for the social graph. Would you rather pay 1 cent to display your ad to someone who has zero tech influence, or $1000 to get your ad in front of the eyeballs of a tech influencer whose posts are reposted and retweeted thousands of times? Would you rather pay 1 cent to display an ad to random people based on search keywords, or $100 to display the ad to a "circle" of people who have demonstrated a sustained interconnected interest in your particular topic?"
- Stephen Francoeur
I plan to submit a session on collaborative platforms for open science and possibly another one on "Research funding 2.0" (cf. http://ff.im/9SvED ). Anyone interested in teaming up? Deadline for submissions is 30 June 2011.
- Daniel Mietchen
from Bookmarklet
Daniel: What type of platforms are you interested in covering?
- Mike Chelen
My favourites would be wikis and GitHub, though others (e.g. Etherpads/ Google docs, Bazaar) could also be possible.
- Daniel Mietchen
There are a number of exciting aspects for wiki platforms and GitHub, been having alot of fun with Git-backed wikis and GH pages lately. Etherpad and Google docs are also great examples, and supposedly the EP tech will be integrated with GDocs eventually. Don't have much experience with Bazaar however it does seem popular for some software projects such as Ubuntu.
- Mike Chelen
I was so hoping I could make this. Are you doing it again sometime soon?
- Mr. Gunn
Mr. Gunn: I've no immediate plans to give similar public talks in San Francisco, unfortunately.
- Michael Nielsen
On another note, just gave a talk about open science at Twitter, and they are a seriously cool company. Lots of very thoughtful support for open culture generally.
- Michael Nielsen