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I left Twitter for Jaiku. Then Jaiku left me for Google. I moved in with Pownce but it died. I went back to Twitter, but flirted with Plurk, Identica, and Rejaw, and even tried doing it myself with Laconica but it was Twitter I really loved. Twitter finally broke my heart so I left it for Friendfeed. Now Friendfeed is leaving me for Facebook. No...
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It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
HAHAHAHAHA....
- David
from IM
Haha. ROFL
- Roberto Bonini
is friendfeed going anywhere or will it just get better?
- Craig Shipp
I'm with you Leo.
- Oracio
It reads better than Soap - my roadmap is very similar but I'll forgive FF and live happily ever after with it (for the time being, anyway)
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
You're the best Leo. Canadians are the funniest people.
- Dan Lessard
I'm betting they'll slowly digest it into the Facebook news feed. They claim that Friendfeed is staying put for now, but that won't last.
- Ken Bauer
And we keep following Leo all over the place!
- Robert Scoble
Long live Leo
- Randy Pollock
When will we all get in a long term relationship and stop getting our hearts broken?
- Nate Pilling
so what is more important, the medium or the people, hope that FF will let us export our content, and our social netork :) (in my wild dreams)
- abdellah
Need ice cream? I'm new to FF, and kind of sad I didn't jump on the proverbial wagon sooner!
- Elizabeth K. Barone
I hope you leave your standard breadcrumbs so we can find you in the next chapter of social interaction.
- jcunwired
Feels to me like maybe it's time to go back to building a distributed network, rather than hopping from service to service.
- Ken Sheppardson
But where to next? That's the question. Wave sounds great, but the implementation will be a PAIN. So where? Oh LeoMoses...where is our path in the desert?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Sounds like a hurtin' country song in the making.
- Bill Rodman
The wave of the future is wave
- Randy Pollock
Well you can't say that what is happening in the 'social sphere' is boring by any means!
- Matt Cassem
I think Leo's audience is more likely to click "Like" or "comment" than Scoble's is. When Leo and Rob are both posting on FF, Leo gets more likes and comments
- Mark
Didn't you leave a post earlier saying how funny it was that people complain anytime there's a change (referring to the FF buyout)? This sounds like a complaint to me.
- Fleagle
Not complaining - just thinking about the future. I think a little Friendfeed DNA will vastly improve Facebook. And I think Facebook is already the big winner with the general populace. I also think we geeks need a corner somewhere else to hang out in.
- Leo Laporte
And I have no plans to leave Friendfeed. Yet.
- Leo Laporte
Yet being the operative word.....
- Roberto Bonini
sounds like a country song to me
- gavin
As for this geeky alternative, http://a.tinythread.com/ just showed up in my feed this morning. Thoughts?
- Craig B.
I feel more of a personal connection with the FriendFeed team than I have with other services I've left, and that will be a big part of why I will stay as long as possible.
- Louis Gray
^^^ replace "team" with "community" and there's my reason for sticking it out.
- jcunwired
Its also going to take a very long time to go through content and bookmark/store it elsewhere. Evernote is going to be used heavily in the weeks to come.
- jcunwired
The only way to have control is to use your own URL
- Craig Shipp
Wait till you meet Facebook's randy cousin Overly Friendly Book =)
- Cynthia Yildirim
what Louis gray said. I'm going to hang around until the lights go out.
- Jordan Brock
from BuddyFeed
What they said, I don't see any reason to leave FriendFeed unless something actually changes that makes the service worthless to me.
- Craig B.
And many times you cheated Twitter, she was always loyal to you. Thats mean someting!
- Jacque
from f2p
yup me too Louis and I don't know any of them
- Thomas Power
Plurk's not worth leaving anyone for.
- Rachel R.
Leo, I think you need to change your FaceFeed status to "It's Complicated" ;)
- Daynah
Play this thread off, keyboard cat.
- Fleagle
You have to go back to your blog. It still loves you Leo.
- Dave Winer
Screw you, Friendfeed!
- Andrew Leahey
Users today are investors too - only the 'exit' for us is not lucrative.... its the other way sometimes :)
- Mrinal Desai
I just had the idea: wow, how good will Faceboook become though this input? (JUST imagine tagging ppl in FB the way U can Tag them in FF.)
- oliver gassner
Love Stinks.
- shelter watch
I'm quite surprised that you could keep track of all that!
- Robert Alex
Leo Laporte listed his relationship as: "its complicated."
- Randy Shapiro
Damn thats complicated
- drmacintosh
Don't worry Leo, its not you, its them...
- Steven McGurn
so where do we go now?
- Brian Appleby
I agree with Jonathan Hardesty "It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives" - And sites keep getting killed off only to come back to life a month later!
- Amy Flynn
very true, however on the other hand, we are getting closer to that one service which everyone will be on... and I dont think twitter is going to be that one
- Bryce Campbell
Facebook buying FriendFeed is like having to MOVE just when you got your house all dressed up and made into a comfy HOME! I don't feel like doing it again!
- Arleen Anderson
Now that Facebook and Friendfeed have married, I'm waiting for Twitfacefeedplebospacening.
- Anthony Marco
You all just have ants in your pants :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Leo, u by your self made two companies (services) out of 3 famous and made Google interested enough to buy 2 of them (Jaiku & FF). Google also tried to flirt with Twitter as well. So which one u choose now? Cause we will follow u :P
- Sam Ehsan
Sounds like some of my past love affairs. Of course, I'm married now. That, um, was prior.
- Paul Chaney
lmfao, its so true leo, so true!
- Derek Bender
Feeling a bit worn around the edges? ... me too!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Speaking of Days Of Our Lives: Didn't that show jump the shark when the serial killer was unmasked as Marlena (a character I used to have a mad crush on, and who's now mostly a professional victim)? Then all the "killed" characters came back to life, since they were only what I call "soap opera dead"...
- Dennis Jernberg
And if everyone follows you, then your all having affairs all over the place! LOL
- Sandra Large
I think it's back to the TWiT Army!
- Paul Salzman
It's not like we have proposed Healthcare reform, or anything really important, going on in the U.S.A.
- Steve de Mena
it's getting ridiculous, FEDERATED is the word!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
who is actually leaving FF? have many people vowed to do so yet? I'd like to but there isn't any alternative.
- Denise Young
the joys and sorrows of everyday social IT folks... :-)
- Thomas Lee
People are talking a lot about Streamy today. Might be an alternative.
- Caio Cesar
Streamy seems to be crashing left & right tho.
- Rick Cogley
Not to mention Pownce was shutdown as soon as it got good!
- Kenneth Reitz
No mention of Microsoft Vine?
- Robert MacEwan
yep. welcome to another episode of; As the Stomach Turns. one big soap opera.
- Scratch5150
I've decided I'm not going to tell ANYONE which site I'm favoring... not even myself! I swear! As soon as I decided that FF was my new place (a couple months ago) THIS happens! It's like magic, but in a bad bad way...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Why do we all assume this is a bad thing? Maybe the FF Facebook combo will be better??
- Craig Shipp
Maybe they'll keep both open -- FF is the open side, and FB is the closed side.
- John Flinchbaugh
from IM
Social Networks are sluts?
- TheDiva Rockin
It sure is.
- Jason Hill
I know exactly how you feel. What's a person to do? I am mad at Twitter for suspending some of my accounts. First, the accounts kept causing the password to reset, then they were suspended, all around the time of the DOS attacks. All I ever used Twitter for was to advertise my businesses, and for fun. Now I don't know where to go.
- DogPatch
Here's some thoughts on what's going to happen:http://kennethreitz.com/blog...
- Kenneth Reitz
It's like my beloved Archie comics romantic twists from childhood! Archie loves Veronica who loves Reggie who loves Betty who loves Archie... ;)
- Shawn Zehnder Lea
More like "As the worm churns"
- Houseofmax
한글 와서~ 루거 .. 당신은 정말 잘 생기고있다 누드 사진 기다리다 :]
- HealingBrush
One of the funniest sad stories I've heard in a long time...
- Aviva Gabriel
Gotta find one who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. One who looks like a woman, but thinks like a man. One who tells you you're the only person in their world and worships the ground you walk on. One who's from Venus but want's to live on Mars. One who you know will always be there even when the chips are down. One who looks like a movie star, but doesn't bust the credit...
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- Jan Simmonds
I think a lot of people LOVE to think negatively and don't want to think positively. They think FB is BAD and will ruin FF, but I think if they do it well, FB won't be the bad guy. I think most people who are irked about this are irked because they think the FFers "sold out" to the "man".
- Molly, "sorry"
@Mollyanna - I disagree. I am irked because the future of FF is completely uncertain. It's more likely that FB will let FF flounder and close it down than it is that FB will invest time and resources in maintaining and enhancing FF. FB has other interests and is splitting up the FF dev team. That does not bode well for FF. I don't begrudge the FF devs for taking the money. I would be...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Leo, I hope you mention FriendFeed in your Dubai TED talk ! :) I'll try to be there !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
@Jan You're an asshat.
- Ian Wright
from BuddyFeed
leo, check out Streamy.com. I'm actually commenting to friendfeed from there right now...you may like it better.
- Casey Petersen
looooool =))
- ★amin.m★
Haiku Laporte
- Outsanity
that was cute! :O)
- Jeanne
@ian - "Wordsmith. Public relations undergraduate at The University of Texas. Feminist Capitalist. WordPress geek. Future commercial rights attorney"...surely that kind of asinine comment is beneath you!
- Jan Simmonds
Maybe they're just not that into you.
- Elizabeth Johnson
Wait... who's on first?
- Michael Rosenau
Logged in to suggest that many of us have tridden a similar path, but a lot of people have beaten me to it! I miss Pownce
- SpionKopRed
wow, Leo. You've got relationship issues!
- Justin Bradshaw
there there, Shawny's here...
- sofarsoShawn
I sense a pattern here.. maybe you always seem to go after web2.0 services that are bent on ditching you :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
FB buying FF is bad news for FF users.
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Agree totally Dave
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Why do you think so Dave?
- Tim Akinbo
10000% agree, its dreadul and the big boys like Leo and Scoble cant seem to see it!
- Mark
Leo laporte says "This is a big step toward an open Facebook. This has been their goal all along: a distributed Facebook." What a Crock of SHITE
- Mark
They bought the people!
- Mark
yeah... but it is also a smart move, they got the team..
- Rob Sellen :o)
I'm trying to give the FF team the benefit of the doubt...but I'm having a hard time with it as well.
- Ken Kennedy
Born to be sold, we were used to say in the new economy era.
- Federico Bolsoman
They bought the people. We Stick with that. FF guys are Smart/fast and have deep Google knowledge
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
Woah. I step away from the computer for a couple hours and this is what happens?
- Travis B. Hartwell
I agree an independent Friendfeed might be preferable for we few brave FF users. But the writing was on the wall. For most users it's Twitter or Facebook or nothing at all. Aligning with Facebook is smart long term thinking if FB is planning to open up as I am convinced they are.
- Leo Laporte
from BuddyFeed
Let's hope that FB doesn't block people from using the 'competeition' while on FF.
- shelter watch
Seems everything's headed for an autumn war Facebook <> Google Wave
- Jordi Soler
At first I like the idea of FF & FB, but now I'm starting to think it's bad for FF
- Ray H
hmm, an open, new version of FB that uses all of what makes FF great would be nice.
- Dusty Edenfield
Leo's got the right idea, and independence is a myth
- Steve Gillmor
Well, how could it possibly be a good thing?
- Fleagle
Agree, I'm not a Facebook fan although I try but.. I'd definitely take FF over FB anyday.
- Sharon Dexter
I prefer a FriendFeed folded into Facebook versus a FriendFeed that quietly fades away, which is the direction this was going.
- Mike Doeff
Totally agree - facebook is so tedious and slow. FF is wonderful.
- Zphotogal
+1 mike
- Riaz Kanani
We imagine FB with the SEO juice of FF, thus intercepting search traffic...
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
I can certainly see the best ideas from FF being folded into FB but not sure what that says about the future of this site and the data it contains
- Keith Harrison
Except for the whole FriendFeed dying slowly in the obscure ghetto of the digirati part. As Mike said, FF in FB is better than no FF at all. FriendFeed users are far better off having it than watching it its gradual anemia grow worse and worse until one day it vanishes.
- Curtis Schweitzer
While this may never happen, consider it a possibility - your entire FB feed now available in FF.
- Tim Akinbo
It is really hard to see how FB will do more than incorporate staff and ideas from FF. FriendFeed's design of being a very open aggregator is very different than FB's walled garden ethic. I also think part of what attracted me to prefer FF over FB is the clean interface, as opposed to FB fire-in-a-bordello presentation style. I hope FB really listens on the UI side and not just on the aggregator side, or works just mines out the staff.
- David Lounsbury
This is a good thing for FF and FB both. This will lead to a more open FB and steal Twitter's thunder.
- Tim
"the writing on the wall?" ... that's just hyperbole, Leo. Paul Buchheit himself said in his interview w/ Scoble that they could have kept the service alive "for years"...there was no financial issue forcing this, like tr.im or something. And while I suppose there are those that believe the most popular site/music/art/people are always the best, I think that's both a shallow way of...
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- Ken Kennedy
Like 4 Ken
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
What I care about most is having a Facebook profile that is *actually* public, viewable by non-users.
- Andrew Roche
I definitely DONT LIKE IT grmphhh !
- laetSgo
@andrew that's one thing FF team is very good at: climbing Google :)
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
DOnt like it either. I'm off to a self hosted http://sweetcron.com/ or wait for a http://kakuteru.com/ invite.
- Mario Valente
One thing that can be said about social communities - its the people who build the product. Had we not given excellent feedback to FriendFeed developers in creating our perfect world FB wouldn't have had an interest. Its our fault. :(
- jcunwired
i'll agree to wait this one out before being totally devastated about Facebook buying FriendFeed
- Chris Heath
Let's leave "en masse"
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
Motion carried, motion passed.
- Zachary TG
Facebook is banned from my work computer.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Live *open* BadHair podcast in 8 minutes. (347) 843-4661. Call in if you have a comment or question re FB/FF. Starts in 3 minutes.
- Dave Winer
Wait and see ...
- Kate Foy
It means you'll have to share. wahhhhh
- Andrew Smith
I think it is a bad idea. I don't like to use Facebook except for frivolous reasons. FF has been good for reliable information. I suppose I'll stop using it so much now. We'll see.
- Barbara K. Iverson
I want to see where this is going but definitely my favorite social site just got folded into my least favorite.
- Braden Douglass
It depends entirely on what direction FF would have taken next (and what direction it will take Dave). Think most of us that have been around FF since almost the start (when it was a MUCH smaller place) miss that but this actually might be a good thing.
- Charlie Anzman
Agreed if they lose the FF interface.
- Wei-Yen Tan
If we put all our faith into a single platform or a single solution [Twitter/FB/Goog] then we lose touch with people, processes and where history is taking us. In this case, we’re headed more in the direction of where .tel and Identi.ca are stumbling, consciously or not: towards a non-web-centric, permission-based polycephalous set of systems, where discussions and messaging transpire...
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- A Mitchell
Google Wave is coming to replace all this stuff. And Google Reader will get more social features including item recommendations through comparing users likes, and so Google will win this. Good time to sell.
- Charbax
Interesting convo we had there dave, thanks for letting us call in and participate.
- Chris Heath
But the real question is who will take over who? Isn't there a possibility that FriendFeed will takeover Facebook! I hope FB make it work as I like the idea of FF but it doesn't have the critical mass of people talking about what I am interested in!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I agree it's probably bad news for FF users.FF has reliable info. I don't want it to become chatter.
- Leigh Marriner
I'll admit to being a recent convert to FF but it was the best social site I have used yet (and I have used them all). I am sorry to see it lose it's independence. This will not end well for FF groupies. But my reading of the tea leaves is that FF options as a standalone service were not good. I guess this is a sign of a maturing market. Can a Larry Ellison acquisition be far behind?
- Michael Liss
simply but clear
- Gioia Feliziani
I agree with Dave's original assertion. I'm struggling to imagine the value Facebook could add to FriendFeed, and I can certainly imagine the downsides. Having an aggregator that sits independently on top of the commercial pile, while fleeting as a free service, is a valuable one.
- Allred
disagree.
- Gus
I have my suspicions too. But Facebook have been wanting to open up more for some time (e.g., they're eliminating regional networks), and I'm guessing they see FF as the key. I'm betting they'll fuse the two services soon. But let's hope they use FF to improve FB. But there's always a big chance FB will ruin FF. Stay tuned...
- Dennis Jernberg
+1 for A Mitchell's insights. If tr.im and FF have taught us anything, it's that no matter how many open api's there are, a closed platform is still a closed platform, and it can disappear overnight. We need a decentralized yet federated way to do all that FF did (and more). If it's not decentralized, we don't have redundancy. if it's not federated, we lose community an conversation.
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
another +1, Don and A Mitchell. I just finished a blog post along almost exactly the same lines, Don...decentralization and federation are both key. Good news is, this is historically how things go...nerds only, then mainstream joins, but centralized (think AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy...services and email that couldn't talk to each other). As the systems mature, then value of decentralization becomes apparent. This week could actually be an important milestone in speeding up that process *here's to hoping...*.
- Ken Kennedy
But Facebook buying friendfeed is great news for the 250+ million fb users! (And most ff users have fb :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
It would have been better (slightly) if they were acquired by Twitter. I'm not a Twitter fan, but I think FF would bring more to twitter, it would be a better fit and the users and the interface would have a better chance at "integration"
- Mario Valente
I've read its good for FF, it's bad for FF. It's better than being sold to google, it's better than being sold to twitter. Myriad variations on a theme, which leads me to conclude we haven't got a clue what the future will bring.
- Mark
FB will better integrate FF than Google or others ever would -- one hopes. let's see what happens and go from there. Good news is that it will generate a ton of news for you peeps to report on.
- Gavin Adams
It's simply time for a distributed story for this type of application. You shouldn't need to rely on any providers who can be down or might be bought.
- Christian Scholz
"Google Wave is coming to replace all this stuff." And lock you into yet another platform owned by one company.
- Ian Betteridge
@Ian...Wave is a federated, decentralized, (to be) open-sourced solution. It's complicated, but it's at worst an architecture lock-in (ie, it might be hard to move a large corpus of Wave-annotated data out of the Wave infrastructure). Unless Google is pulling a flat-out lying fast one...there won't be any reason why you can't run your "own" instance of Wave and connect to the rest of the Net. So not standard company lock-in.
- Ken Kennedy
Ken, to be honest, I'll believe it when I see companies other than Google taking the code and running an equivalent service. Flat out lying? No, probably not. But "only able to do something useful if you're connected to Google in some way"? Probably.
- Ian Betteridge
@Ian, I hear ya, but I've read enough of the technical specs to lay my money on the other side of that bet.
- Ken Kennedy
At least Google is one company that's not likely to turn coat on its social community and sell out.
- jcunwired
Really? I think the old Jaiku community would disagree with you on that. And the people who stored their bookmarks in Google Bookmarks, too.
- Ian Betteridge
why?
- Thomas Power
Sorry - I meant Google Browser Sync rather than Google Bookmarks. One is dead, the other alive and well(ish). But the point is that Google has a track record of killing or abandoning services when it suits.
- Ian Betteridge
True, Ian. Google's "do no evil" doesn't keep them from killing things that aren't panning out for their world domination strategy. They're marginally more saintly than Facebook.
- Sean Gallagher
Is it because of the Facebook ad approach that Dave W and Scoble are looking to jump ship on FriendFeed?
- Sean Gallagher
Sean: I'm not jumping ship. But I will follow early adopters wherever they go.
- Robert Scoble
Or Google Notebook. Even given that and Jaiku, though, which did do a blow to my faith in Google, I would rather a Google-FriendFeed than a Facebook-FriendFeed. Mostly because I think they'd let it do its own thing rather than assimilate it. They left YouTube pretty well alone. Oh well.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
disagree with FF and LI nxt year bottled up inside Facebook this forces Google MS and Apple to get seriously social and start playing rather than just watching. Google-Twitter, Apple-Facebook versus Microsoft-Bing now that's a battle I want to (socially) watch with all you guys. Oh what fun. Can't wait.
- Thomas Power
I'm not sure Facebook or FriendFeed are entities whose well-being I value so highly; users, I care about, and having FriendFeed developper work their magic, their talent and their stand for open standard to benefit 300M people sounds more important to me then having them spend more time tailoring the digerati's private network. I'm far for believing you can't improve FriendFeed, but I'd...
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- Bertil Hatt
@Bertil_Hatt: if there's one thing that FriendFeed isn't it's a private network. Facebook is the one who, on the other hand, operates like a "walled garden" or a private condo.
- Miguel Caetano
Only if you believe the FF has a sustainable business model?
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
FF is F'ed
- Shivanand Velmurugan
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What Facebook apps would you pay for? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Rui Pereira, Christian Scholz, Sebastian Küpers and 12 other people liked this
Not a single thing. Facebook is nice, but I wouldn't pay a penny for it and wouldn't shed a tear if it went away.
- Chrimmus Tad
I would never pay for a single facebook app ever!
- TheHenry
honestly nada, the junk ones have ruined any ones with credibility
- Zee.
None... not one. Plz tell me paid FB apps are not the future!
- Walt Ruppar
I don't spend alot of time on FB, so nope.
- Jonathan Kong
I wouldn't pay for any either !
- Ozgur Cem Sen
I'd never pay for a fb app, ever
- Nick
I hate every Facebook app I've tried. It creeps me out to give it all my info just so I can send some craptastic alert to my friends. And the games aren't fun. I really just want to use the social network without being bothered by people asking me to throw text snow balls at each other.
- Andrew
None.
- Santa CW™
0
- Josiah Lau
i will accept some advertising in exchange for an useful app
- TrafficBug
Me ... pay?
- Charlie Anzman
Me... Facebook? =D
- Anton
None
- Brian
None. I may delete my profile one of these days.
- Parth Awasthi
Nope!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
Parth- Good luck on that deleting thing. I made a profile when FB first emerged, then deleted because I didn't see the use of it. Then my family went viral with FB so I went to make a new account. They still have my original profile which they recognized via my email account when I went to re-register.
- Kimberly Nolting
here come the subscriptions at last ...we've been waiting expectantly
- Thomas Power
facebook is a social disease...twiiter is a mental illness.
- Russell Wagner
None. I only spend about 15 minutes per day on FB. Just enough to keep in touch with anyone not of FriendFeed or Twitter. Would not pay for apps on it.
- Justin Whitaker
None. Apps are a waste of time. Not at all what I use facebook for.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Facebook is a temporary aggregator for twitter, youtube, last.fm, blogs, etc that is a stop-gap measure until all my friends get on FriendFeed (or a similar open system). Pay for a FB app? FB should pay me!
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
no question: "Would You Do Me?"
- sofarsoShawn
Surgeons Use Twitter To Perform Surgery - http://www.webguild.org/2009...
Frode Stenstrøm, Christian Scholz, Igor Poltavskiy and 25 other people liked this
Actually, they Twittered the surgery they were doing - headline is misleading. But still: Wow!
- Sarah Perez
from Bookmarklet
I've heard they play music in the OR but twitter?! I can only pray it will be used in case they get stuck and are twittering a topflight surgeon at the Mayo or Sloan-Kettering for advice when I am on the table. :)
- Melanie Reed
tweetdeck in surgical suite! awesome! twitter FTW!
- Susan Beebe
LOLz. @bill you should see this dudes liver? OMFG. Anyone know where I can get one short notice? :-)
- Anton Mannering
from twhirl
how else do you get a full round of golf in and get through your list ?
- Joe Wilson
to kill brain cells maybe
- Josh Haley
Headline is very misleading but I'm laughing so hard I can't get past it. It just sounds like a Far Side cartoon. ROTF!
- TheMacMommy
from twhirl
Mr Doctor Please Keep your Hands and your eyes on the Surgery , you can twitter after you cut me open ,,,
- johnpiercy
Now following @HenryFordNews ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Yes of course the media tries to play on everything Twitter and Google to get visibility and mindshare "Google did that" Google is busy releasing new updates to Gmail" when only a new lab feature has been released.
- TrafficBug
I actually thought this was an Onion headline when I first saw it!
- Gyuri Grell
fascinating how social media is influencing and breaking into our day to day lives. we live in wonderful times ! :D
- Tibi Puiu
If my surgeon was twittering instead of surgeoning, I'd be PISSED. People pay TONS of money and wait AGES and sacrifice lots to get surgery. I can't see how twittering can improve the system or the procedures, I think it's a waste of time, and they shouldn't be doing it. In their spare time, sure, please, I'd love if they did, but social media has nothing to do with healthcare imo.
- Will Higgins™
Holy Jebus.
- l0ckergn0me
Thats amazing lol
- TheHenry
Bad Bad Page - http://subbrilliant.com/bad...
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Tom Merritt's new blog is a tongue in cheek throwback to the bad old days.
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
And luckily the music doesn't get a chance to start playing.
- Dean Clark
Good thing the sounds broken too :)
- Holger Eilhard
And where is the "under construction" gif-animation?
- sdfx
Shame shame shame. You made me click on that link. Why dear god did pages look like that?
- Stephen Lecheler
Let's face it we all made such pages 10 years or so ago, as we learned HTML. I think it's great and have fond memories of that time.
- lelapin
a company I worked for hired PR people that used animated gifs in the newsletter (this side of the millenium). A total fail for a company that made graphics software!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Awww i dont think the counter is working :(
- Kevin Hart
My best friend and I purposely maintained a horrific site on Geocities for a number of years as a reminder of how far our web design skills had progressed. I wish I'd saved the files to share here. It was truly awful (I was a massive fan of anigifs and embedded midi back in the day...)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It's like the Dead Sea scrolls for the Web.
- Bill Koslosky
1+ Bill
- Keith - @tsudo
Sound track by Chris Isaac : i've been a bad, bad blog.. or i've done a bad, bad thing even
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
I'm buzzing... out loud. http://www.watchbol.com/
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Jobs=Gutenberg?
- Bill Koslosky
Gutenberg's first press was repossessed by his investor - he later went on to do OK, though. Think of NeXT and resurgent Apple...
- Chris Gulker
and I'm watching. Didn't know the channel existed, stumbledupon it right away, thanks for sharing.
- lelapin
Top 100 Products of 2008 - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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...i'm nuts. i just figured i use 40+ of them on regular basis ; platforms, alternative search engines and any kind of RSS viralism tools are the most important ones, while most 'digital lifestyle' apps are for couch [and subway-] potatoes imo ; ps: there is still a difference between digital couch potatoes, online community managers, mashup producers and desktop media activists ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
TweetGrid - by jazzychad - http://tweetgrid.com/#
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"create a twitter search dashboard that updates in real time
- TheHenry
from Bookmarklet
Hay very very very cool.TweetGrid - A Quick "How To" KICKS THIS home http://www.vimeo.com/2356559
- tomartomartini
Nice looking site.
- Kol Tregaskes
Berlin - http://brightkite.com/objects...
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Boah Berlin, da bin ick auch ;-)
- Christian Scholz
cool
- kosmar
Keyboard Shortcut Skins for Macs. Fly through Photoshop, Aperture, and Final Cut Pro. - http://photojojo.com/store...
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Models available for notebook computers and desktop keyboards.
- Jonathan Kong
I hope they don't start making Gucci or LV skins!
- Trevor
I want!
- orionstarr
Episode 9 - Weihnachten naht und wir machen Bestandsaufnahme - http://openweb.mixxt.de/network...
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Free iPhone Audio Recorder - Podcasting News - http://www.podcastingnews.com/2008...
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"Rockifone’s Easy Recorder (App Store link) is a free iPhone app that turns your iPhone into a dictaphone-style audio recorder."
- Kamath (नमः)
Very cool, now I just need to get a mic for my iPod Touch. Anyone have any recommendations on mic's for the touch?
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Right, I need one aswell :)
- Christian Scholz
Wonder if the ipod touch will recognize the iphone headset which has a mike in it. Hmm...
- Kamath (नमः)
any comparison to iTalk Recorder?
- felix
iTalk and QuickVoice are already doing that very well...http://web.me.com/dlahely...
- Didier Lahely
iTalk: http://www.griffintechnology.com/product... >>> Quickvoice: http://www.nfinityinc.com/quickvo...
- Didier Lahely
Google Earth: New York City Is Breathtaking Following Google Earth Update - http://gizmodo.com/5113131...
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"That's not a photo of New York. It's actually many photos of New York, textured on 3D models in Google Earth's latest update. And it's truly nothing short of amazing."
- Chris Messina
from Bookmarklet
Wow! I loaded up after seeing your post, and was like, whatever. Went away for coffee, came back, and photo reality was staring back at me. Thanks for the heads up. Beautiful!
- Chris Kenton
from twhirl
this is amazing..
- onur özen
I will then wait some years before we get that for Aachen but this indeed looks really amazing.. downloading it now.
- Christian Scholz
This September 10 image, taken by the crew of the International Space Station flying 220 statute miles above Earth, shows Hurricane Ike - http://vi.sualize.us/view...
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net@night 79: Don Tapscott, Grown Up Digital - http://twit.tv/natn79
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Really good interview with Don
- Jay
The year 2008 in photographs (part 1 of 3) - The Big Picture - Boston.com - http://www.boston.com/bigpict...
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chrome will have an ui for bookmarklets - http://sites.google.com/a...
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Social Media in 2009: Our Predictions and Desires - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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By Sarah: "Over the past year, we've been inundated with social media. We've seen Twitter go mainstream, lifestreaming take over blogging, and we've tried what felt like a million different applications. We've joined then abandoned new services recklessly, leaving our accounts to wither away on platforms long forgotten. What more could we possibly do in 2009?"
- Frederic
Avatar mesh/morph exporter/importer - https://lists.secondlife.com/piperma...
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Mike Monkowski from IBM contributed a patch to the SL viewer, that allows machinimators to build more expressive avatars and allows residents to export their current appearance meshes to 3D graphics editors in order to map textures better
- Opensource Obscure
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Blue Eagle Cafe - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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A little bird told me that Facebook now has 140 million users and that revenue is higher than most blogs have reported.
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Is FB worth $10 per user?
- LogEx
Was it a little bird going tweet, tweet, tweet:)
- James
LOL @ James...
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Revenue higher than reported, as in, profitable? Or just not losing as much?
- Tom Ribbens
Logical: a lot more than $10.
- Robert Scoble
LogicalExtremes: I say yes simply because I can explain its value to my mom.
- trextor
The bird told me he has a Twitter account but rarely uses it to Tweet, though.
- Robert Scoble
Tom: the bird wouldn't tell me that.
- Robert Scoble
Watch the 140 million run screaming as they realise lawyers might start issuing summonses against them on FB: http://www.theage.com.au/nationa...
- mattpovey
Robert how much higher is the revenue???
- Susan Beebe
mattpovey - As someone who libels and assaults frequently... that scares me!
- Andrew
Susan: the bird wouldn't discuss numbers other than to say all estimates he has seen are low.
- Robert Scoble
great news. they've really captured the way people communicate quiet effectively.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
I just can't make myself like Facebook. In part I think it's not really wanting to keep up with old friends. Don't get me started on the stupid apps and the layout.
- BEX
Facebook is really growing in my neck of the woods...TONS of co-workers have jumped on FB now... all happening VERY fast. Transparency is the new reality. I get folks calling me from work asking how all this "social" sh*t works... LOL pretty shocked n00bies!
- Susan Beebe
I wonder if the progression remains "neopets" --> "myspace" --> "facebook" .. both my daughters went through these three distinct stages. IRC was in there for a bit; followed by forums and blogs; and now they just IM
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It is amazing how many customers now you directly communicate with on a daily basis through SMS, twitter and facebook.
- Shaun Haney
Most blogs report $150 m? I would put it between 200-300 M based on back of envelope calculations that assume a low RPM
- Bindu Reddy
Who told you? I am guessing someone from Facebook. They get a bad story, they "leak" to you it's not true, you post it. People believe you. Why don't they just people what they make if they care. Posting like this make you look like a shill.
- Michael Stearne
i never pay a attention to the adv on FB right slider.so the revenue i think should be lower than most blogs have reported:D
- jedorstar
http://www.facebook.com/press... has the user number (140M)
- Ashwin Bharambe
If I could pay ten bucks to insta-ban all annoying app requests and pathetic ads, and more options for designing my front page, I'd go for it...
- Terry O'Fee
When this is anything more than unsubstantiated rumor, I'm sure they'll be happy to put their cards on the table.
- Sam
My forecaster's "sell" order stands. Or, buy puts, your choice. AOL didn't die in a day, either; in fact, it took one of the greatest value dumps of all time, directly upon the heads of Time Warner shareholders. Please, of course I know it's not public, I'm talking Cred Trend Puts. I can't imagine a single reason for the web needing FB by 2012; it was a cute start to socially stuff and MySpace UI cleanup, but the vast majority of The Normals will use it as a Social Registry and virtually never log in again.
- michael silverton
A revenue of $10 per user per year is achievable - advertising + premium vanity features ought to do it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As to longevity, I don't know - i dislike all the fluff in FB, apps and games, but I can see it growing into a living family tree - our parents are joining, our children are joining, and I now have a whole multi generational network including my parents' friends, my friends' parents - you get this whole "village" of real connections if you use it that way, quite warming when like you have moved countries a bit, and the value could grow. A grounding space in a increasingly disconnected and virtual world.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@scoble: A lot more than 10$ per user? 1.4+ billion in revenues? Is that whtat we're talking about, or was it just what it worths?
- Martino Sabia
Martini I don't know the numbers. I thought I was being asked the value of each user.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook is becoming pretty common and integrating itself within the non-tech crowd. Is it only a matter of time before they roll out some type of subscription plan? I would be willing to pay monthly (maybe $10) As long as they keep adding new features and keep refining the interface.
- Bob Blunk
there have been stories on FF lately about how poorly ads do on social networking services compared to search advertising. Does anybody have different reports or experiences?
- Davide D'Incau
Doesn't surprise me, more friends of mine are joining it by the day.
- Ed Richardson
incentive ads perform poorly on a CPA basis; conversions occur for the wrong reason and have a high cancellation rate.
- Peter Warnock
It seems to me that FB is more embraceable for low tech people than Twitter
- Craig Mische
It's the apps, after the newness wears offs or the advertisers push back, FB will have to do some real marketing. They have a gold mine of data that they're not using.
- Peter Warnock
@Craig - How in Bob's name is a crazy multi layer, multi threaded, multi page, multi media mess easy for a ludite depression era grandmother to get than a single line where you post 140 characters?
- Matthew DeVries
If Facebook needs to start charging than they've failed at their mission and are leaving way too much money on the table. The power in facebook comes in the fact that they now know what we like, what we hate, who we follow, who we listen to. That is worth so much more to people than the pittance they'd be able to make by charging us a fee at a price we wouldn't run screaming to the hills over. They need to keep it "free" and sell that information to the ad people, the politicians, the entertainers.
- Matthew DeVries
What The Twitter/Google Announcement Means - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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It only means that Google found Twitter important enough to compromise on their "do no evil" rule by integrating with an API that requires users to give out their username and password to everyone.
- Daniel Sims
It means that I added it to my site, now my twitter friends can be a part of my site!! ;) (http://www.tech-linkblog.com
- Paul
I think too much is being read into this announcement. Google added Twitter into FriendConnect simply because Twiiter has an API that allows Google to so. Seems like Twitter would be the next logical choice after Orkut/MySpace etc...
- Bindu Reddy
Secrets of the Web 2.0 World - What Secrets? 2009 Prediction - Groups Become Productive - http://furrier.org/2008...
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Oh, how did Loic launch Seesmic? He came over. We took him out to dinner. Shared a bottle of my best wine. Then he showed me Seesmic.
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Proves he's wrong about Silicon Valley when he says people don't take him up when he asks to have meals.
- Robert Scoble
LOL Robert.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
awesome strategy...love it, especially the part about dinner and sharing best bottle of wine...then comes the demo
- Susan Beebe
Le reste est l'histoire
- paul mooney
I'm not sure about anyones point here, really.
- Roberto Bonini
You uber bloggers do like to bitch, don't you?
- David Semeria
Next time I'm there I should take you guys out to dinner and show you our simplyfeed then. ;)
- Moushumi Kabir
Moushumi: don't forget the wine! :-) When are you going to be in SF?
- Robert Scoble
hymanroth: we learned in high school that no one pays attention to the geek in the science room but that everyone pays attention to the fight in the quad.
- Robert Scoble
I wish FF would let me 'like' comments in a thread because I really like Robert's geek vs. fight comment. Still trying to understand why LeWeb always has controversy around it...but then any buzz is better than none, right?
- Karoli
Just the sort of civilized values and appreciation of human communication celebrated by the Slow Food movement http://tinyurl.com/5n84bh . I think Loic was articulating this type of view. I read in Lemur's blog that Arrington took his Latop to a Michelin 3 star restaurant! No-one can condone this. Can they?
- Mac Taylor
Mac: Loic later admitted that Mike didn't do that.
- Robert Scoble
hymanroth: the fight might be manufactured, but it isn't all that fake. Just because they planted the fireworks, lit the fuse, doesn't mean that there aren't real fireworks going off now.
- Robert Scoble
come on Robert, real fireworks? As in things that go up in the air, make a lot of noise and colour, but ultimately achieve nothing other than a momentary distraction.. I think you stumbled onto a great metaphor, these kind of spats are fireworks, lot's of noise but no power behind them.
- Steven Cains
Robert, he did not do that but went to the bathroom check Techmeme, and was begging for the Chef to leave him in peace at the end of the dinner :)
- Loic Le Meur
Loic: like I said, maybe you invited the wrong guy to dinner! (Hi Mike!) I appreciate five-course French meals and don't feel the pressure to get on my blog. But, you might catch me in the bathroom on FriendFeed. Luckily, in Europe, I don't have cell phone access so don't feel that kind of pressure there.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder if everybody is having a boring weekend and plays kindergarten because of it.
- Christian Scholz
but having that said I think the europeans could get things done a bit more.. like in Germany we seem just to copy everything and complain that specs are not written in german, too ...
- Christian Scholz
Christian - my feeling is that that's exactly what's going on today (techmeme's sidebar is longer than the main part of the page today) - but then, we used to have a lot more manufactured fights like this - sadly, the fight takes away from the substance of the discussion, which is basically about work/life balance - and which is an important topic
- Frederic
Frederic, right, work/life balance is one and it's of course also a cultural thing. It might also be about different thinking about risks you take when it comes to startups. And the latter is also influenced of your environment.. Like in germany we do not really have an atmosphere which allows for too much risk.. and you'd better not fail.
- Christian Scholz
Robert, sure, wine too! I'll be there in February. Or, you are welcome in Atlanta and we will extend Southern hospitality, calling the trip, "Silicon Valley goes Southern." :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Christian - Good point - entrepreneurial risk taking isn't exactly encouraged in most parts of Europe - and that is definitely holding potential startups back (more so than taking time out for lunch...). Of course, there is also a lot of bureaucratic hassle if you want to start a company in Germany...
- Frederic
right, bureacracy adds to that (and we like to add another two layers in order to remove one because we are actually very aware of that). That being said and having thought about it, I am not sure if those american startups are actually better. Most of them seem not to be very interesting to me but probably there are simply more of them so the chance that some winner arises from that mass is higher.
- Christian Scholz
I would have dinner with Loic. And I have had briefings over meals from companies - BackType being a good example.
- Louis Gray
Anyone is always welcome to come visit out here (Salt Lake City) as well - we have at least 6-12" of snow on the ground now as of today, so we could go skiing! (although I've only been once) Want to review tech companies? We have Omniture, Mozy, Doba, SocialToo, i.TV, We're Related (facebook app), Ancestry.com, BackCountry.com, UnitedOnline (the makers of Classmates.com, NetZero, and Freeservers.com), OrangeSoda, Overstock.com, and more - all w/i 45 minutes drive!
- Jesse Stay
Oh, and despite what Scoble says, I'll make sure you can eat at a Mexican restaurant that makes good Margaritas. ;-)
- Jesse Stay
I almost forgot Novell
- Jesse Stay
Novell ...hahaha! OMG are they still breathing? Suse linux?? My hubby was a top shelf Novell CNE, MCNE, ECNE... then came Windows Server! augh! Novell's "windows client" was the death of novell. 2,3,4 all worked great in DOS, then the windows stuff crawled and cost MY company money...sucked big time... OK where's that NT 3.51 book?? Windows for workgroups anyone?
- Susan Beebe
Silicon Valley is much more about relationships than Arington has made it out to be...and not necessarily for the better all the time; I remember reading a good post somewhere about the role of VC's essentially being reduced to funding buddies and finding exits for buddies to former vc's / buddies :)
- Michael Broukhim
Michael: I agree. Arrington, though, does always look for the next thing and I could totally see him wanting to escape from a five-hour dinner to make sure he's not missing anything important.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yes, he does seem *much* more meritocratically oriented than many others... though I think in some of his US / EU observations, he projects unto other U.S. techies his own ethos
- Michael Broukhim
Broukhim: oh, yes, he does do that. Big time. But then, so do I in a way. We all try to shape the world to be how we'd like it to be.
- Robert Scoble
Very true
- Michael Broukhim
How did Swisscom mess up LeWeb? @docwho76 asks. They were paid 100,000+ euros and never got wifi to work. That's failure .
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Even in Europe that is a legal action to me
- Ian D. Nock
Amazing that conferences still have trouble with something as seemingly pedestrian as wifi.
- Patrick Lightbody
That's actually EPIC FAILURE :-)
- Duncan Riley
Patrick: well, it's not as easy as you might think. First of all, the wifi systems in your home aren't designed for 6,000 to 8,000 new connections in one morning. Second, getting bandwidth to many venues is difficult. Third, if you don't know about wireless and have equipment to test, you can get lots of noise and as more and more channels get turned on the whole thing can fall apart. Some companies are very expert at this, but they are expensive. And, even in best of times sometimes things just fall apart.
- Robert Scoble
Swisscom tried to turn the story on its head. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Nicholas James
Robert: Oh, I agree, it's technically not easy. But conferences are very common. So is wifi. You'd think it'd be pretty straight forward these days :)
- Patrick Lightbody
A generous and clueful defense, but anyone who has built or operated even the most basic campus network knows that all those variables are WHY you have a $100K Euro job. Some Junior Colleges run this kind of network every single day. Personally, I can't grant Swisscom the mulligan on this one.
- michael silverton
Oh that is my pet peeve- online conferences that have shoddy wi-fi
- anna sauce
EPIC FAIL x 100,000
- Susan Beebe
I hope the organizers didn't pay the bill for a service that was not delivered. Just back from a recent science conference that provided flawless wifi for 30k attendees
- Sally Church
maybe it would be cheaper and easier to simply put a cable to every chair ;-)
- Christian Scholz
Errrr, how many cables will that be?????
- Roberto Bonini
One problem: at LeWeb even the cables didn't work. That is how bad Swiss Telecom sucked
- Robert Scoble
They had a really bad day...
- Håkan Dahlström
Ouch. That is bad. Thats what Loic should be making a fuss about....
- Roberto Bonini
it was swisscom? I could have told you not to bother... ALthough to be honest i had no WIFI for the whole of FOWA in London, so it seems a trend at conferences. Why take on a tech conference and not be ready for massive usage?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You have to ask a simple question .. how was it that Loic chose Swisscom? Was due diligence not there? Surely the organizers of the conference have to bear some of the responsibility?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: Swisscom has done other conferences successfully but I'll ask Loic about that when I interview him on Wednesday.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Jason Calacanis talked about this yesterday on TWiT. He described the hoops that he and MA had to go through at TC50. Pretty elaborate but he made sure there was reedundancy.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
A scary video vision, robot mercenaries of the not too distant future. http://iphone.robotbling.com/...
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