totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet!
- Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day!
- Sarah Perez
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;)
- Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself.
- Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those?
- Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa!
- Susan Beebe
I haven't used HelloTxt, but from first impressions of the webpage it doesn't look quite as nuanced as ping.fm - seems more about status updates only. Ping.fm allows blog and microblog posting as well and I like the flexibility. Having said that, there's nothing wrong with doing one thing well.
- David Young
Sounds pretty even right now. Someone should post a feature comparison grid!
- Glenn Batuyong
Hello.txt with SMS gateway; while Ping.fm with IM support. Hello.txt is two way (at least on the web interface); while Ping.fm could only send messages, not receiving.
- Jansen Lu
I'm trying to get SMS working at hellotxt, but it rejects saying that I'm not sending to a "vaild 10 digit code" - ideas anyone?
- Steve Isaacs
Thanks for the updates, everyone. Does either service work well with Blackberry?
- Ryne Nelson
would anyone use Hellotxt as a two-way communication tool? or just treating it as a message broadcaster?
- Jansen Lu
HelloTxt: nicer interface and more services supported, though I tend to use both 'cos I'm a nerd ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol my Ping.fm's interface is very clean and neat, 'coz it's only the gtalk conversation windows :P
- Jansen Lu
I'm leaning toward TelloText though I haven't really given Ping.fm a fair shot.
- Kimberly J
I use Ping.fm and I like it better because they keep adding great new innovative features. And you can use it with many different applications like Twirl, Spaz, etc.
- Guitarguy234
Ok, so what is the term for FriendFeed Post Necromancy? Because this is the poster child for it.
- Justin Whitaker
"The conversation map is a living, breathing representation of Social Media and will evolve as services and conversation channels emerge, fuse, and dissipate." http://www.briansolis.com/2008...
- ※Fu※
this will help me as I prepare for my upcoming electronic poster pres. on using microblogging tools for teaching & pro networking. NICE!
- Kimberly J
build/get links to your site using the keyword that you want to rank for. create content that is valuable so people will link to it. that's it in a nutshell.
- Jason Peck
Increasing relevant content on your website is the first step to increasing your Google and Yahoo rankings. Before you start writing content, first do some basic keyword research using tools such as Google Keyword tool (URL: https://adwords.google.com/select...) and Word Tracker (URL: http://www.wordtracker.com/). Once you know how your audience is looking for your...
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- Pre Priyadarshane
Start by reading SEO and link building blogs. They usually offer a good deal of information on ranking well. Best place to start is http://sphinn.com ... try their 'link building' section.
- Maki
get backlinks. think about your tags. use descriptive <h2>headlines</h2> in the body of your article. For 'value' posts, ensure that they address and answer s specific small problem. Get your feeds sorted out so you'e got timely news. Stick in an aggregator or two relevant to your niche. get an extensive blog-roll together, link to them, and send them each an email. And that's a start...
- john conroy
Thanks for the tips guys! Really awesome stuff here!
- mark
Okej, here's some tips from a SEO-consultant: 1. use titles, and optimize them. 2. use url:s as they should be use; for helping people find the right content from a source 3. use sitemaps, at least google sitemaps. And of course, use google webmaster tools 4. have a lot of unique content and everything should be text! 5. use real a href-links and make a site structure so everything could be found 6. get people to link to it. Tell them you're there when you launch, when you have something to tell.
- Anton Johansson
some ways to use it that I hadn't thought of, so thanks!
- Kimberly J
Great post. Interestingly enough, the amount of data being indexed in Google due to FriendFeed is ridiculous. Not just from FriendFeed itself, but also from the Wordpress FriendFeed comments plugin. I couldn't believe it when I googled myself today!
- Tim Hoeck
I use and like FF too. There is one interesting question that arises from my point of view. Should I try to use all the above mentioned functionalities or is it better to stick with the core features in order to keep it simple?
- Jan Horna
Jan, depends on what ways you can get the best out of it. I'm not there is many people who can use every function, but you can pick and choose, it's one of the great things about FF
- Duncan Riley
if you're happy with your news sources it's all fine then
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I have different opnions on these "meme" subjects... :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Agreed, I've maybe been to the site twice.
- Eric Florenzano
@bjorn: Here we are! :) This is why I humbly think that the user's interests should be considered in the center of every system. Popularity alone is easily corrupted and will be corrupting the value of things
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
One way to find out what people are talking about is to watch FF, Twitter, and so on. That's the real buzz.
- Chris Baskind
That makes 2 of us. I looked at it once and moved on.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Not sure what techmeme is, but between popurls, some news feeds and a set of international RL friends the important suff is covered.
- sergiooo
You're crazy! I'd love to see an eco-meme. That way we know who's getting to the news first ...
- Preston Koerner
Techmeme is a decent resource for people who use it because it works in a similar way that Friendfeed does. It allows you to follow the exploits of those who you find interesting. If you don't follow the Techmeme set in general, you'll find it completely uninteresting. Sort of like a Soap Opera tabloid.
- Steve Spalding
This afternoon I got a haircut, bought some new shorts at Target, & now I'm grilling sausages & chicken for this week's dinners.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
With the feeds I have in gReader, it would be redundant for me to read.
- Vince DeGeorge
I've never seen Techmeme, nor have I even heard anyone mention it until this thread. Whatever it is, it's probably an abomination. I'm feeling a little queasy even writing about it, frankly.
- Gabe Rivera
I've been there a few times. Didn't immediately like/understand its importance and moved on. Some of the "A-list" bloggers seem to really get into it (and are able game it well *arrington - twitter*).
- acedanger
from fftogo
I've never read it either. Doubt I'll start anytime soon.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I didn't think it was a tool for the masses: it's a way for people in tech to identify how stories progress through the internets. That is, if you wanted to have maximal impact in a PR or marketing push, you ought to try for x, y, and z blog to cover you rather than hitting them all, because if you do, all the other blogs will cover you anyway. Was it intended as a real news source?
- Mark Trapp
I only tend to visit it on the rare occasion that I've ended up on it. Then I find that it's somewhat interesting. But it's not my "go-to" source in the mornings. Don't expect to be either. It's over-rated.
- David Cohn
I don't need some automated system to tell me what's good. This is why we have FriendFeed—I have my FRIENDS tell me what's good! :)
- James Mowery
I agree, James. I just commented on another discussion that I don't understand these "lists." Why do I need a list compiled by another person or service to tell me who I need to follow and read? It contributes to the sheep mentality that dominates the blogosphere and I hate to see that happen here. A person's comments are not valid or worth reading just because another self-righteous person told me so. A person's comments are worth reading because others find them interesting.
- Trish R
@Trish, I agree. FriendFeed = Techmeme killer. ;) Nah, I kid, I kid.
- James Mowery
Techmeme, Digg, Reddit, Google News, and all these other meme-tracking sites have only the most limited of utility. They're based on what's popular, what's popular can always be gamed, and there's an echo chamber effect when people will jump on a bandwagon just for the attention. (That said, I've unsubscribed from just about every tech blog because they only ever talk about what's on Techmeme anyway, and rarely ever add anything besides a headline to the "discussion").
- Eric P
Like I said, not very prominent. I'm sorry, I have trouble taking someone seriously who uses a standard blogspot template. - http://www.thestandard.com/news...
I saw that yesterday and I found it very surprising (the whole conversation, not just the hypocrisy where his own personal blog is very standard template). I'd be interested to see what Cyndy thinks about this guy since she does some writing for the Industry Standard
- Robert Seidman
Excellent riposte in the next comment: "Isn't there a thunderstorm you should be chasing somewhere?"
- Andy Murdoch
If you use a standard blogger template, maybe you were putting more time into writing great content than making it all pretty and stuff
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Sure, I use that template on a blog... that I haven't updated in 2 years. My point still stands -- he isn't a "prominent" person in tech. He isn't Scoble, he isn't Calacanis. Blacks are underrepresented in tech. I didn't say I WAS prominent -- just that he wasn't. Blogging for AlleyInsider doesn't exactly make you prominent. Neither does writing for Valleywag or Industry Standard. But having 40,000 followers on Twitter? I'd say that gives you prominence. But, you know -- attack away if it makes ya feel good
- Jordan Golson
I don't see any problems with using any standard templates. I just was surprised that he used the same one! I don't usually throw stones in my own glass house!
- Heidi Jeffers Thibodeau
Who is this Jordan Golson. He is not very prominent.
- Elliott Ng
Jordan, prominence is on a sliding scale. Would you agree that Arrington, Calacanis, Kara Swisher et al gave him *more* prominence? I don't think his prominence is at issue here with your post but rather your suggestion that anyone offended by the year old video is "self-righteous".
- Robert Seidman
Jordan - there's a good debate there about 'prominent' in the context of the larger conversation. But to define prominence by the use of a certain blogging platform does little to advance that debate.
- Hutch Carpenter
I never said I was prominent. That's missing the point. My point was that anyone offended enough to threaten a boycott against Verizon or to actively try to torpedo someone else's livelihood because of something they said a year ago is self-righteous. As for a prominence goes, I said that I have trouble taking someone seriously who uses a standard blog template -- just like I would have trouble taking a presidential candidate seriously who showed up to a debate in a track suit.
- Jordan Golson
Jordan, sorry that I got your name wrong. I fixed it.
- Mike Doeff
Jordan, reasonable people can debate whether the video was offensive. But is it reasonable to assume that just because it wasn't offensive to you and almost a year old that makes someone like Corvida self-righteous for being offended enough to protest against Verizon?
- Robert Seidman
That seems the major point of contention. Using a "standard blogger template" takes very little away from whatever point you are trying to make. Whether you agree with that point or not is another question entirely. It's just irrelevant.
- Steve Spalding
Robert, I think whether someone is self-righteous or not is a matter of opinion -- and reasonable people can disagree on that too. I think she was. You may not. It's not a judgement on them as a person, just saying that I personally think they're making more of it than is necessary. People are going to be jerks on the Internet. Best to just ignore it.
- Jordan Golson
It goes without saying but some of the best speeches I've ever read were never typed. I'd like to believe that it's always about the content and not the container.
- Christopher Harley
Been debating how to reply. I saw Jordan's piece when it went live. I hadn't seen the comments until Hutch posted. I disagree with Jordan's premise, but I respect him as a writer and a person. I don't believe for a second he's a racist. I also know Hank's work very well, but also realize that not everyone reads the same blogs. There are people out there who don't know who Arrington is. And I think we all agree that this space is dominated by white men. Period. I saw the "50 most prominent women bloggers"...
- Cyndy
... and *I* didn't know who 2/3 of them were. And I do understand that at the foundation of The Video was a truth that could have been applied to any group other than white men. It could have been women, Asians, Hispanics... what I'm not understanding, though, is the misdirected anger. I respect those who protested. I understand those who disagree. But why the anger at the protestors instead of Verizon?
- Cyndy
Oh. My. God. Jordan. Do your fucking homework. All the way around. Cyndy I don't think anyone called Jordan a racist. I did call him an idiot though. I stand by that.
- jeneane sessum
why are people debating anything with someone who says they are a big fan of Don Imus? "appreciating his ability to call out hypocrisy" is one thing, but "a big fan?!" conversation's over as far as I'm concerned.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
But OE, YOU were in the screencap on Valleywag of the NEW 250. You are very prominent. ;)
- Cyndy
“I think the most important thing is in fact not to distinguish by skin color, gender, eye color, or any other physical characteristic. Om Malik is a well-known blogger. Is he a well-known Indian (guessing) blogger, or is he just a well-known blogger. Mike Arrington is a well-known blogger. Not a well-known WHITE blogger, but just a well-known blogger and entrepreneur. Is Will Smith a...
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- David Adewumi
Back from the pediatrician. Sarah gained 7 1/2 oz last week and is at 4 lbs, 9 oz. Matthew gained 10 oz, and is at 5 lbs, 7 oz. The two won't stop eating!
Would be nice to have a link back to the Digg permalink so that I can Digg the stories I see coming in here. Anyone have the contact info for the folks at friendfeed?
i'd prefer to see both if anything - by putting the digg link and nothing else, it's just driving more traffic to digg and causing yet another middleman in getting to the source content - most digg friendly sites have a link to digg, wouldn't it make more sense to READ/VIEW/WATCH the content before digging it?
- Allen Stern
make it happen! and please ask them to let us group friends while you're at it. :)
- Frankie Warren
Yap I miss that funktion, too ;) Mail is here : mailto:feedback@friendfeed.com
- Martin Gommel
let's make a deal then: how about direct links as well in the Digg RSS feeds?
- Jared Lynem
I'd love to see a link to the original story, and a little digg button next to it.
- Orli Yakuel
Hey Kevin, thanks for the feedback. Noted! Have any contact info for the folks at Digg? ;-)
- Kevin Fox
orli - all that would do is make the digg armies get into full effect - already people digg stories without reading them - that would just amplify that - let people read/watch/view the content then decide if it's digg worthy.
- Allen Stern
Yeah, I don't think FF needs such specific functionality. A link back to digg is completely reasonable.
- felix
I'd like to a link back to Digg too, want to see the comments.
- Mack D. Male
sounds like a better idea for a greasemonkey script, rather than something baked into ff
- Trent Olson
Allen, why would I digg something without seeing it first? even if I'll have the link to digg here, I'll still open the story I'm digging... but it's just doesn't make sense to see here what people dugg without any connection to digg the site. (and what if the story link don't have any digg button on the page? are you expecting me to search the story on digg now?)
- Orli Yakuel
I second Kevin's suggestion [Story Title (direct link)] - [Digg This (digg permalink)]
- Jim Bergman
Orli - if a digg button is placed on ff - people will friend digg without ever seeing the story - i am ok with both links - tho would still prefer people read the content first -otherwise a few select people will get even more benefits then they do today
- Allen Stern
ie "When you post that somone diggs a story here on FF we dont get the traffic, how can we fix that"
- sean percival
@sean, honestly I could care less about the traffic, I'm just trying to make it easier for Digg users to promote/share the content they care about. The main story title would still link directly to the source.
- Kevin Rose
I see someone Dugg something on FriendFeed. I go read it. I want to Digg it. They don't even have a Digg badge. What Now?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
It would be nice if the "like" feature would just equate to a digg and be the connection.
- Andrea Baker
@sean I don't think Digg needs any more traffic. :o) No Digg button or anything, just a permalink to the page on Digg. It would be nice so we could Digg a story so my friends can see it instead of just me just "liking" it in someone else's stream.
- Paul Reynolds
In addition I would love to have an ability to digg from friendfeed directly.
- Stepan Mazurov
@Andrea - i like that idea a lot. it'd also be interesting if the votes in all these rating systems were tied together so a Digg, an upvote on reddit and a like on FF all went towards one centralized vote count. Then the different sites could compete with each other based on how they aggregated and displayed the links according to their different algorithms.
- mike
Kevin: He is the creator of Gmail. : p http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d... ; ) He heard you, but his mail like in the link strongly! ; ) (loves from Turkey, read webrazzi.com more ; ))
- Erhan Erdogan
I really don't think 2 way integration is the answer. Sometimes I just want to like something in somebody's stream and that's it. Really guys, a permalink would be great.
- Paul Reynolds
A simple link to the article on digg is all I'm looking for. Not Digg'ing directly from FF and certainly not linking "Like" to "Digg" somehow.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I'd like a link to Digg. I'd tab open both the page and the digg page so I could review and then digg it (or perhaps not). I also want FriendFeed to differentiate from "digging" a story and "adding" a story if possible.
- Ben Parr
i'm sure you can make it happen.. I still would like to see it be an option, but i don't know if that will happen. Built in diggs would be nice... right next to like :)
- Tim Hoeck
Am I the only one who sees Friend Feed's choice to not link to digg as intentional? From a business standpoint, it makes sense for FF to make "Like"ing an article easier than digging the article. As for actually digging, the Smart Digg Button Firefox plugin helps fine enough for me.
- Paul Arrington
Allen, hmm, now i see what you mean. I meant that the digg button will take you to digg first, like kevin said. I gusse I wasn't clear enough.. :-/
- Orli Yakuel
Soon there will also be requests to have a "Del.icio.us" button, "Stumbleupon" button etc..
- Winston Teo
hey kevin socbut.com is working on this feature.. not be implemented in the next few days. digg to socbut.com and be able to digg from socbut.com and back to digg.
- Jay Martinez
The number one way I find people to add on FF? Nope, not FFs recommendations, finding little white bubbles next to people making interseting comments in conversations. These are the people that I want more of. Folks that participate intelligently are far more valuable than A listers who don't.
I'm only just now starting to use FF, even though I signed up months ago...and I agree, this tool is far more useful than even twitter.
- Jeremy Botter
I agree 100% Tom. That is how I have been finding a lot of people. I am relatively new to FF so that and friend of a friend posts are the only ways I am finding people.
- Matt Donders
Personally - that's why FriendFeed is differentiating itself from a lot of other sites. It caters to those active people that want to discuss, learn, inform - which makes it a resource that I come back to over and over again...
- George Smith
I'm in absolute agreement but have to admit that I've added some of the A listers just to see who's talking to them intelligently. Granted, the ROI's a little low, but sometimes watching the fawning is reward in and of itself. <insert sarcasticon here>
- Linda Mills
Good point, this is one of the reasons why I'm spending more time on FF now - great way to discover and interact with new people that have relevant information/comments to share
- Gabriel Biguria
So very true. My page of "recommended" friends is nothing but a bunch of A-listers that would fill my FF pages with mostly junk, and not a lot of substance.
- Brandon Wood
When I am looking for people that share my interests, I search for a headline I really liked on the everyone tab and check out others who shared it and see what they are all about. It is kind of time consuming but fun.
- Geoff Schultz
I'd also add that you don't have to add a whole lot of people to get quality content thrown into your FF stream. I'm slowly adding people and the value of FF went up 10 fold.
- Otto R. Radke
The goal of adding friends here is to have intersting stuff in your Friendfeed. And you do that by carefully watching the dicussion not just in terms of comments and likes ( as mentioned above multiple times), but what items are posted by people. Thats whats I look for.
- Roberto Bonini
I've been getting annoyed at the amount of junk, repetition, and endless Twitter vs. FriendFeed talk from the so-called "A-listers". It's high time to start unsubscribing and find some new "friends".
- Matt
the ancient toad style of social networking
- Anthony
Actually if you do that you soon realize that there's more content by interesting people here than time you have to read that. Then, the question stops being how to find interesting people (that you'll keep finding and following) but how to reduce the noise...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
So Marcos the task at hand is to become Jedi of the Hide button and learn how to fine tune everything.
- Mark Forman
Hide is awsome, but I'm feeling it is not enough. I hope noiseriver ends up being the solution, but... it still hasn't the hide feature implemented :-)
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
Hah! I just added everyone in this post who I wasn't already subscribed to.
- Thomas Hawk
Ha! Prepare to be inundated with my brand of minutia!
- Geoff Schultz
If the same friend of X comes up often, and I find them interesting, I will subscribe to them.
- Hao Chen
I, too, am just getting more involved in this social networking thing ...
- Robert Couture
This taps into what for me is the stand-out experience FF. 'Common Interest' is _one_ facet, but there's more going on in deciding to Subscribe or not. It's like a first impression in person - the brain takes a bunch of behavioral cues builds a profile in seconds upon which decisions (sometimes lasting) are made. To balance the split decision weakness of not enough information, just cruise through the person's feed for 'background check'. All common sense I suppose.
- Micah Wittman
Yeah but I frikin HATE the moment I add 1 person from a thread i like, I get bumped out of the thread & have to go back & search for it again to see if I want to add anyone else.
- Mrsth
@mrsth, I agree 110% w/ that. It's easier to open a new tab then scroll down and locate the topic again...
- Czar
Nah...I add completely based on superficiality and looks. :-P
- Live4Emma (L4S)
@Czar- ah I didn't realize you could do that. I'll give it a whirl. Thx!!!
- Mrsth
@Carlos Perez- Ahh. that explains alot. You can only see my legs:-)
- Mrsth
i guess just a 'me too' here would be totally wrong.
- MLx
I think the only way to find those interesting people you don't know is to subscribe to the popular people. I've been finding some interesting folks that way. Otherwise, no one posts comments to your own stuff. Oh, to be unpopular. Sigh.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
That's exactly correct. I don't auto-follow. I add people who comment and like and share things I'm interested in.
- Louis Gray
wow, that's a super-excellent observation. i'm taking the hint with a few 'white-bubble' folks here too. altho i wonder if the FF folks shouldn't cue that behavior up with mouse-over info on the bubble icons... i had no clue why the color was showing up at first. (then again, i'm often an idiot)
- dave mcclure
awesome. this reaffirms why i like ff better than twitter. the failwhale is kind of endearing, though.
- Marissa "malouie"
Couldn't agree more! The Fancy Pants people are too fancy, I just want interesting conversation(s)!
- Cheryl
Totally agree!! Wish I could get some of those people as my friends too!!
- ChaCha Fance
I can't stand FF posts with more than 10 comments. I want to filter them out but there is no option for that.
- Sam Pullara
What client are you using? twirhl makes comments on FF OK, but just OK. It's a shame that we're all this way and still don't have clients that support threaded conversations as good as tin or slrn on usenet...
- David Molnar
from twhirl
david let's agree on 'as good as on usenet' - i never could stand neither tin nor slrn *g* but yes. it is now 10 years ago that most decent usenet clients had a feature set still not rediscovered for everything feedish ...
- Nicole Simon
Agreed as well I look out for the white speech bubbles as well to see what value they add to the FriendFeed community!
- Joe Dawson
Occasionally I'll wander over to everyone and 'browse'. it's really eye opening as FF grows
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, I like doing that too, but we need a language filter badly!
- Hao Chen
The number one trick A-listers use and I never liked? " hey I'm here now on friendfeed, comment on this if you want me to follow you". I don't want them to follow me because they are important. I want them to follow me because they feel I'm important to them!
- Alexander van Elsas
Agreed- when I see opinions I like from someone several times, I check to see if I've subscribed to them yet.
- Brian Carter
My first time on FF and I like the interaction I'm seeing. The "white bubbles" are a great way to find new and interesting people.
- Tom Newman
That's a great way to find friends with whom you can actually talk and count as friends. And the comments are a great feature of FF. I'm just getting to know how to make FF useful for me...
- Dan V
I haven't found FF list of recommendations terribly useful either. Although this is a bad example, because it brought me to this entry.
- TDavid
The criteria of "participate intelligently" is a relative word. What is "intelligent" to you may sound "stupid" to others? I guess the more appropriate term would be "value-adding to the conversation".. But I agree 100% on how "comments" can really uncover hidden gems!
- Winston Teo
I do this too. I consider the comments a kind of signaling (a concept I learned from economics). Too bad there are so little interesting people in FF (to me at least, my interests are a little "off" from the median).
- Meryn Stol
"A group of undergraduate students from the University of California San Diego have forged a new area of bioinformatics that may improve genomic and proteomic annotations and unlock a collection of stubborn biological mysteries. Their work will be published in the July issue of the journal Genome Research. The new area of bioinformatics is called "comparative proteogenomics," and as the name implies, sits at the intersection of the fields of "comparative genomics" and "proteomics" – which is the study of all of an organism's proteins. "This could be a powerful way to improve both genome and proteome annotations and to address notoriously difficult biological problems that remain outside the reach of previously proposed bioinformatics approaches," said Pavel Pevzner, the UC San Diego computer science professor who organized the project. "Our bioinformatics undergraduates have shown that you can simultaneously analyze multiple genomes and proteomes, and use this information for scientific discovery," said"
- Attila Csordas
from Bookmarklet
:) My wife used to work for Pavel for a bit, hence the question
- Deepak Singh
We covered this work in Nat Rev Genetics, it does seem pretty good!
- Maxine
Nitin Gupta, the first author of the paper will probably attend BioBarCamp.
- Attila Csordas
FYI Nitin isn't an undergrad, at least if it's the same one I know. I presume most of the others were. He'll be a great addition to BioBarCamp
- Deepak Singh
Anyhow, he is coming and that gives us an opportunity to have a nice session on what they've done
- Attila Csordas
Nice article. (1) There's a non-liker. I've noticed a few people who post a lot, but have 0-50 comments/likes (as opposed to some who post...nothing...completely blank feed, and do all the activity in comments/likes). (2) I'm not sure if wanna-be-noticed likers exist. I would imagine that commenting & liking would be way more effective than just liking.
- Mitchell Tsai
(3) "Vanishing Liker" Liker who unlikes later (maybe related to the "like to go back to it later Liker") (4) "Caught by the cops" liker - Liker who likes 200/day and hits the limit... ( ---> (5) "Tag-team likers" (haven't seen this yet) Way to get attention on FriendFeed: (A) Post (B) Get two friends to "like" post (C) Just one person says "Amazing post!" - Two people would be overkill (D) Have one of the friends be Robert Scoble...
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell, I like your feedback. I think I might add that to the list.
- Mike Fruchter
Mike: I "super like" this blog. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
8 different types? that's a lot and still I miss a category for persons who are not really aware what the like-function on FriendFeed implies. Among the german users recently someone mentioned the fact that "like" can also be used for oneself to find good stuff later again.
- Matthias Schwenk
Love FriendFeed I am addicted and I will shortly be crossing over into the thousand comment/like mark. Deserve's a t-shirt hey ha!!
- Joe Dawson
Matthias Mitchell mentioned that in his first comment, I will add that to the revised list. I also like the ""Vanishing Liker" , some one who unlikes later on.
- Mike Fruchter
Big fan of Friend Feed right now... looking forward to continued enhancements and improvements.
- Ron Emrick
I don't 'like' articles. I might be interested, they might be relevant, but 'liking' them has too many connotations.
- Sam Pullara
Sam you define the Friendfeed "Non-Liker"
- Mike Fruchter
According to your definition, I must be a selective liker. Although, the flickr content is so good here I usually "like" every set I see. ;)
- Alejandro
Louis, then who is your (virtual) valtrex?
- Jeff Quinton
Nick Carr. He has a healthy distaste for Kool-Aid.
- Sprague D
At the risk of not seizing the opportunity for a bunch of cheap laughs, Louis, do you have any virtual role models (text changed to avoid confusion... ;-) )
- Mark Dykeman
Scoble. I used to not understand him. Now I've developed a much better appreciation for what he does. Heavy info consumption and distribution, more direct conversations with people than anyone I know, and a good sense about the value of things.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Julian - I was lucky enough to get an advanced copy from the publisher and I gotta say that it was a good read.
- Steven Hodson
personally I don't really like the term hero as it has connatations of putting people on a pedestal. Now if you were to ask who I respect (which btw I think is worth more than being a hero) that would be a different story
- Steven Hodson
@Steven - OK, then who do you respect in the blogosphere/social media space?
- Mark Dykeman
@Mark: Scoble, Carr, Duncan Riley, Alexander van Elsas, Mathew Ingram, chartreuse ... that will do for now but there are a bunch more that I also respect but these were the first that came to mind
- Steven Hodson
I'm going to point out the elephant in the middle of the room at this point: I don't see any women's names...
- Mark Dykeman
I'll fix that, Mark. Sarah Perez is my hero.
- Louis Gray
Great post mate. These days Cyndy and Leslie (Profy), Richard (RWW), Steve Hodson, Louis, Matt Ingram and people like you. I need fresh perspective and that's where it's coming from these days.
- Steve Spalding
Gary Vaynerchuk. If I could be half as successful as he's become and still have the enthusiasm, I'd be okay with that.
- Mark Trapp
All the developers of the cool products: Ben Golub, Alexander Marktl, Caleb Elston, the FriendFeed crew...
- Louis Gray
@Steven - checking out your post now...
- Mark Dykeman
....and ditto everyone that's already been listed above as well as everyone who's linked at the top of my blog.... This is a great list!
- Sarah Perez
Thanks Steven and Steve! I'd be sure to leave someone out, so I'm not making a list. :)
- Cyndy
@Sarah, yeah, pretty good list, but who's this Scoble guy they keep talking about? I hear that name every now and then... ;-) [please, please, please understand that I'm kidding....]
- Mark Dykeman
Clay Shirky, Fred Wilson, Michael Rosenblum, David Weinberger,and Denise Shiffman.
- Dave Martin
Leo Laporte, John C. Dvorak, Kevin Rose, Ray Kurzweil, Cory Doctorow. They've all, in my mind, achieved greatness in a narrow niche that they saw thru from concept to completion.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Leo Leporte, the mighty Scoble, and the scrappy Louis Gray, who I feel like I've watched become a Powerhouse through FriendFeed and is a genuinely good guy from everything that I can tell.
- Vince DeGeorge
@Robert - DE is a level up - the superhero
- Dave Martin
Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, Thomas Hawk, Hutch Carpenter, Steve Hodson, Corvida, Duncan Riley, Alexander van Elsas. Only been reading blogs for a few months... It's pretty overwhelming what you guys keep up with.
- Mitchell Tsai
If we need more proof that Friendfeed is a tech community (or Mark has only tech friends), look no further, if I'm not mistaking there isn't a single non-tech person on the hero list :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
So to counterweight that a bit, I vote for Nelson Mandela, who just turned 90, Johan Cruyff who was one of the most brilliant soccer players ever around, Jimi Hendrix cause Little Wing is the most brilliant guitar piece I ever heard, Rik Mayall and Adrian Edmondson for bringing us Filthy, Rich and Catflap, Bottom, and a whole lot of other great comedy shows. I could go on for a while ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
@Alexander - good list, but the premise of the question was to ask specifically for virtual heroes/online models, which would naturally be weighted towards bloggers. :)
- Mark Dykeman
You provided me with a little slack to get away from the blogging scene when you said (virtual) ;-) I like many of the bloggers and tech people mentioned btw, Riberst Scoble went for the inventor of the mouse (I think?) , I took it a bit further away from the tech community ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Kos and Andrew Sullivan. I might not agree with the politics all the time, but they both were instrumental in the emergence of blogging as a job/ career, and in establishing blogging as a serious medium.
- Duncan Riley
If we're going to limit ourselves to bloggers, many of the ones I look up to are on this thread. I love hanging out here, and it's because of all of you.
- Robert Scoble
@Alexander, one of your many talents is to ignore restrictions when it makes sense to do so. :)
- Mark Dykeman
Robert Scoble -- workaholic. Jeremy Owyang --smart. But there are lots of gr8 ppl. Duncan Riley, Marshall Kirkpatrick. The list goes on. But at the top of the list for me it's Scoble and Jowyang
- john conroy
@louis Virtual herpes! Funny... that's what kids and lack of sleep does to us!!
- Gabriel Nijmeh
"This is Private First Class LaVena Johnson of Missouri. An honors student who nonetheless didn't quite know what she wanted to do with her life, she enlisted in the Army right out of high school in 2003 and was sent to Iraq, where she died. When the Army returned her mutilated body to her grieving parents as a suicide, her dad, Dr. John Johnson, said to himself and the Army coroner, "Somebody murdered my daughter and you picked the wrong person to fuck with." Fucking right."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
Another wasted young life for some corporate profiteering and political patronage. Sad.
- Mark Forman
this reminds me that I saw somewhere there was a death reported at Camp Pendleton but no details were released... under the radar. anyone have deets?
- Andy Sternberg
from twhirl
That's horrible. And what's even sadder is that no one seems to care. It doesn't take a coroner to know all the signs point to murder, not suicide.
- Raoul Pop
re: the Pendleton death over the weekend, the APizzle still has nothing. homicide not ruled out. Sgt. Sean K. Webster was an Iraq combat vet w/ 2 purple hearts
- Andy Sternberg
from twhirl
You are exactly correct, Patricia. Sad, enraging, and true.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl