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Mickey Schafer

Mickey Schafer

a lapsed linguist currently teaching undergrads scientific prose (at Univ. of Florida)
My husband's business finally has a social presence, on Facebook, of course. So I've had to join in order to "fan" them. Another site to keep track of? Think I'm going to use FB solely for personal stuff.
Just spent an agonizing hour at Verizon...to Droid or not to Droid?
SURF -- Summer Undergraduate Research Fellowship -- http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/utsw...
" The QP-SURF program at UT Southwestern is an intensive summer research training experience which leads to an understanding of the planning, discipline, and teamwork involved in the pursuit of basic answers to current questions at the interface of quantitative science and basic biomedical research. Fellows spend ten weeks (beginning June 7, 2010 through August 13, 2010) pursuing individual research projects in the laboratories of UT Southwestern Graduate School faculty members. Fellows gain experience in modern research techniques, and have a chance to plan and execute an experimental strategy to answer a scientific question. The program introduces students to the sorts of projects encountered during postgraduate research training and leads to an understanding of the planning, discipline, and teamwork involved in the pursuit of basic answers to current questions in the biological sciences. At the end of the summer, fellows present their research in a poster session. In addition to... more... - Mickey Schafer
Hi, Mickey. Thanks so much for heads-up. I quickly listed it on ScanGrants: http://www.scangrants.com/grant... I am always looking for neat things like that--thanks! - Hope Leman
Hi Hope! Then you might also be interested in the SMDEP (Summer Medical and Dental Education Program) -- http://www.smdep.org/ -- this is only for undergrads though, so I don't know how that works for ScanGrants. Also, it targets under-represented minorities. Mickey - Mickey Schafer from email
Hi, Mickey--thank you so much. Oh, we definitely include items for undergraduates. I really try to list as many scholarships and academic prizes in the health sciences at all levels as possible. Got to get kids interested in science and medicine! And I have a diversity.underrepresented category, too. Therefore, your suggestion was perfect and much appreciated. I have listed it here--http://www.scangrants.com/grant... - Hope Leman
Sailing over the Edge: Navigating the uncharted territory of a world gone flat -- http://www.ncte.org/annual...
"Thomas Friedman announced in 2006 that the world is flat once again. “In the future,” he said, “how we educate our children may prove to be more important than how much we educate them,”[1] reminding us of a principle that may have faded into the background as we have been pushed by NCLB and other forces toward accountability measured by neatly bubbled exams. Now, at the edge, we need students who know how to think, solve problems, create solutions, share widely, listen intently, and act ethically." - Mickey Schafer
Post is just a blurb about a speaker at a conference, but I thought this quote was relevant -- the emphasis on "how" alongside "what". - Mickey Schafer
E-Learning: 21st Century Perspectives on Teaching, Learning, and Technology -- http://www.slideshare.net/kiranb...
Digital Research Tools Kit -- a pbwiki -- http://digitalresearchtools.pbworks.com/
"This wiki collects information about tools and resources that can help scholars (particularly in the humanities and social sciences) conduct research more efficiently or creatively. Whether you need software to help you manage citations, author a multimedia work, or analyze texts, Digital Research Tools will help you find what you're looking for. We provide a directory of tools organized by research activity, as well as reviews of select tools in which we not only describe the tool's features, but also explore how it might be employed most effectively by researchers." - Mickey Schafer
Association of Internet Researchers -- http://aoir.org/?page_id=2
"The Association of Internet Researchers is an academic association dedicated to the advancement of the cross-disciplinary field of Internet studies. It is a member-based support network promoting critical and scholarly Internet research independent from traditional disciplines and existing across academic borders. The association is international in scope." - Mickey Schafer
Intute -- Helping you find the best websites for study and research -- http://www.intute.ac.uk/
Covers many different disciplines but weighted more toward humantieis/social sciences - Mickey Schafer
Fwd: Study: Internet use leads to more diverse networks by AP: Yahoo! Tech - http://tech.yahoo.com/news... (via http://friendfeed.com/plnlab...)
got this from Holly! "NEW YORK - A new study confirms what your 130 Facebook friends and scores of Twitter followers may have already told you: The Internet and mobile phones are not linked to social isolation. Online activities such as e-mail, blogging and frequenting Internet hangouts can even lead to larger, more diverse social networks, according to the study released Wednesday by the Pew Internet and American Life Project. The study refutes research earlier in the decade suggesting that people's growing embrace of technology has come at the expense of close human connections." - Mickey Schafer
Just set up my first interview for health literacy project -- woo hoo for the Livescribe!
But now I really want a bigger monitor at home. - Mickey Schafer
Scientists still not joining social networks -- Scholarly Kitchen -- http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009...
Personally, am not convinced of some of the assumptions, e.g. "...Both are unfortunate, but are parts of the current culture [reference to sharing early lab results]. Any network that hopes to succeed must adapt to the culture of the community, rather than trying to rewrite it." First, though likely rare, I think there are instances where culture gets "re-written" -- another perspective is that this form of communication provides an alternative to established routes. That is, does not replace them but adds to the diversity of communication means. - Mickey Schafer
The only thing I really disagree with here is that I think there will be a shift towards more open approaches as more examples of success show up. Then everyone will go over the edge like lemmings and there will be a backlash again but by then the funders will be piling in with conditions to push things forward. - Cameron Neylon
<cynical>It doesn't matter what the scientists think. What matters is what the funders demand of them.</cynical> Open science doesn't really depend on "[online] social networks" and never has. It's true that most open-science sorts are active social networkers, but when the rubber hits the road, I don't care who's on FriendFeed -- I care who's sharing data. If the funders demand the latter and not the former, good on 'em. Behavior will shift accordingly. - D0r0th34
But the funders are the scientists in most cases - so a mixture of pushing from within the community - as well as top down mandates will get us there. The question is how to get the funders into a position where they feel bound to impose mandates _and_ provide the infrastructure that makes it possible to observe them...? - Cameron Neylon
Mmm, I'm not sure I agree. Funding infrastructure relies on a fair amount of scientist labor, yes -- but it's not career scientists who have been calling the funder shots; it's been top-level administrators (some of whom are ex-scientists, admittedly) looking at bottom lines. The Wellcome Trust mandate didn't come from scientists. Neither did the NIH policy. <cynical>One can't rely on scientists for effective science policy.</cynical> - D0r0th34
Fair enough. UK Research Councils case is more nuanced. Even Wellcome Trust policy was driven to a certain extent by the fundees or at least not in the face of belligerent opposition from them. But comparing the independent funders like Wellcome to the Research Councils (run more by councils of academics) is instructive. - Cameron Neylon
I thought the spin on your lovely shout out for Medeley on ch 4 news was interesting, Cameron (nice monitors btw!). 'government backing for innovators to meet and share' was the message. Have you had any responses to that yet? Maybe systems like Mendeley will be the things that start to crack the nut of social networking for scientists? I'm not sure it's a killer app, more the thin end of the wedge... - Jo Badge
Shorter DC: I don't like social networks or spend any time on them, so they must be useless. - Bill Hooker
I'm afraid they're not my monitors but those for the control room for one of the instruments (not incidentally the one that got filmed in the piece - but at least there was no blue liquid!) But they are in fact necessary to keep the instrument running and processing data efficiently. - Cameron Neylon
Bill, I am afraid your DC is heads on :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg
I can imagine a report from 1670, a full five years after the creation of academic journals, concluding that virtually no scientists were using academic journals as a matter of course, and thus they are useless. (Technological progress has sped up a lot since 1670, of course. But social change isn't all that much faster, in my opinion. And this is fundamentally a social change.) - Michael Nielsen
Michael++ - D0r0th34
I think we also tend to forget the granddaddy social software: email. In some fields there are tremendously active listservs that have been around for over a decade especially at research universities where faculty got email before it really caught on in the wider world. What evidence would convince a scientist that Facebook, LinkedIn or Twitter offer better communication opportunities than an archived listserv? - Jenny Reiswig
Well, aren't most scientists using email as "communication opportunities" and nothing else? (social network, listserv etc)? - Maxine
were observations limited to sites specifically designed for scientists? perhaps to the exclusion of other significant mainstream platforms like facebook or twitter - Mike Chelen
Jenny: it might be better to gauge usage based either on features such as address book management or by traffic metrics such as size of audience - Mike Chelen
A tech question -- is anyone using web-based file storage? If so, what company would you recommend as host?
What do you want to store? Bits and bobs or lots of stuff? I use google doc for bits and prices dropbox is useful as it has an iPhone app. - Jo Badge from iPod
How big of files are you thinking about? - Holly Rae, FFer
Hell yes. For me, photos -> flickr, audio -> divshare, video -> youtube/vimeo, PDF's -> Mendeley/scribd and google docs for various other bits 'n bobs. - Graham Steel
SlideShare, SciVee (vids), Scribd (pdfs), Flickr, YouTube, lots of GoogleDocs and Wikispaces will take up to 10Meg misc files - Jean-Claude Bradley
favorites are dropbox (good file sync) box.net (webdav standard support) drop.io (quick, easy) and wuala (free limit is high). specialized storage by file type such as flickr for images or gdocs for docs is also a good option, and there are some utilities that can help synchronize with these services - Mike Chelen
Google docs for documents, Mozy for backup, dropbox for sync across computers - Pedro Beltrao
Junlgedisk for archival, dropbox for "hot" content. - Deepak Singh from iPhone
Jungle disk for big files, documents etc. I also use google docs and dropbox for convenience. - ashish
Ooh - dropbox seems rather handy. Thanks. On Desktop now..... - Graham Steel
Any specific suggestions for podcasts/sharing? - Allan Besselink
I use ADrive for pretty much everything. If sharing, will host things on Slideshare, Scribd, Flickr, YouTube, etc. But if it is just for me ... ADrive. Free accounts get something like 50 GB. Podcasts get hosted with Archive.org. - Miss Elle
Allan, I use vanilla S3 for all my podcasts in combination with Cloudfront for edge delivery. - Deepak Singh
Dropbox for a collaborative document share. Wiggio.com for inter-institutional share and collaboration tool. I belong to a group that uses a pogoplug, too, which has been a boon (the trick is where to host it). - Jason Miller
JungleDisk on the Mac - off-site backups of docs + family photos - 'Mummi' Thorisson
Also a Jungle Disk user -- have a workgroup account with all partners and customers having partitions. Use it for backup, transfer of large files (audio, video, lesson packages) to and from internal people and customers. - Brian Sullivan
Dropbox for keeping the contents of a directory sync'd across computers & sharing private pics, Flickr for public pics, slideshare from PPTs and Mendeley for docs. - Mr. Gunn
Thanks so much! Here's a link (though most of you don't need it:-)) that reviews some of these products: http://www.consumersearch.com/online-... -- For me, I am looking to back up everything on 3 computers at home. "Kids" computer used to be mine, and has all the family photos on it -- just 2005 is in excess of 4GB (or so says the flash drive which is full). It seems as... more... - Mickey Schafer
mediafire - ffcode
thanks Mickey you had a good subscriptions list, subscribed to a few of the active folks - ffcode
Miss Elle: ADrive looks kind of cool, FTP can come in handy - Mike Chelen
Mickey: if there is 4gb this year, how much data is there in total? it may be worthwhile to also keep local backups, since 8gb or 16gb memory sticks only cost $20-$30, and external hard disk drives are coming down in price too - Mike Chelen
Mickey - From what it sounds like you want to do, a pogoplug (hardware) might be really great for you. http://www.pogoplug.com - Jason Miller
Thanks, Mike -- that's basically what I was thinking. Maybe a larger GB flash drive for each year, but a combo of external hard drive and online back up for everything. The kids' computer needs ghosting...I'll be able to get Windows 7 for about $12.00 in a few weeks (faculty price) and will likely use it to restore that computer to better functioning. - Mickey Schafer from email
Jason, what a totally cool device! - Mickey Schafer from email
For those who'd still like to explore, the suggestions made here are at http://delicious.com/msscha... -- features to look for seem to be amount of free space (ranges from 1GB to 50GB), share features, file syncing (only a couple do that), upgrade service cost (in all, much less expensive than I expected), mobile apps, and whether there's a desktop component (I don't get this... more... - Mickey Schafer
it is a mistake to keep you personal dta on servers on web first it is very difficult to delete that data and other there is a possibility that data can be stolen - ffcode
@Jason is there a pogo plug available in UK? - Anna Croft
@AnnaCroft - Not sure. Id' poke around on their site to see. On it, I saw what looked like a portal to twitter, and I saw some German tweets. That would make me hopeful that the product is available outside the US. Please post what you find out. - Jason Miller
Anna -- I've also seen French tweets -- here's the product spec page: http://www.pogoplug.com/meet... -- voltage specs are "Power requirements: 100-240V, 50/60HZ" -- the rest relates to OS, internet, browsers, etc so should cross the ocean just fine. - Mickey Schafer
@Jason/Mickey ace - although I'll probably wait until next year to get one, when I'm in the US ... Update: just read on one of the websites that it will ship to Europe in 2010 ... http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum... - Anna Croft
ffcode: it's important to keep multiple backups on local and remote systems, as well as on several company's servers if possible. a good backup service should include client-side encryption (wuala does for example) and if not then it is worthwhile for users to learn how encrypt data themselves - Mike Chelen
Jason: does pogo plug have much built-in storage or is it best to attach an external drive as well? - Mike Chelen
Mickey: flash drives are great for portability, still external hard disks are the best value for the size, for example 500gb for $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product... though online copies are important since a single drive could get lost or damaged at any time - Mike Chelen
Stunning new photo of earth : http://www.space.com/science...
omg, it seems almost all of the earth has been destroyed, leaving only a crescent sliver remaining!!1! - Mike Chelen
Google poised to become your phone company -- http://www.cnn.com/2009...
"Google has bought Gizmo5, an online phone company that is akin to Skype but based on open protocols and with a lot fewer users. TechCrunch, which broke the news on Monday, reported that Google spent $30 million on the company." - Mickey Schafer
glad to hear, since my customer satisfaction with google is generally way above that with my phone carrier ;) - Mike Chelen
Raven Hanna's Blog -- http://www.madewithmolecules.com/blog... -- especially interesting for those living on the West Coast!
My favorite scientist-turned-artist -- Raven Hanna -- http://www.madewithmolecules.com/index...
"In the first years of the millennium, as she was mastering the arcane practice of grabbing onto individual ribosomes—the cellular organelles where proteins are made—with "laser tweezers" to investigate ribosomes' mechanical properties, Hanna had her mind on another audacious goal. "I thought it would be fun to try to communicate science in a way that people would think at the end, 'This is cool,' " she says." - Mickey Schafer
"T his wasn't a mere daydream. Hanna, who is 33 and was born and raised in California, quit her postdoc in 2004, enrolled in the top-flight science writing program at UC Santa Cruz, and was still searching toward the end of that yearlong program for a unique means of scientific expression, when she had an Aha! moment. It happened while she was admiring a drawing of serotonin, a neurotransmitter, in a book" - Mickey Schafer
for the rest of her story, see http://pubs.acs.org/cen... - Mickey Schafer
A colleague was asked to prepare a 45 minute talk to beginning (minority) grad students about the thesis/dissertation writing process. She asked me to help. After moaning about how reductive it all feels, we put together the following webpage with some useful links -- thought it might be of use to someone else:...
you'll recognize some of the links b/c they've been discussed here before. I am making no claim at all about the comprehensiveness of the list or my abilities as a page designer:-)!http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users... - Mickey Schafer
An Open Source Approach to Better Prosthetics -- http://www.npr.org/templat...
Just caught this story on the way home -- audio not available until 3:00 EST (US) -- great conversation with biomedical researcher who was in grad school when he got called to Iraq -- returns with only part an arm, goes into prosthetics research. At end of interview (maybe 7 min in?) makes terrific statement on the lack of open data when the whole thing has been govt. funded -- and has a response to the "economically necessary" argument for propriety, commercial production. - Mickey Schafer
"November 10, 2009 When Marine engineer Jonathan Kuniholm returned to his industrial-design shop after a tour of duty in Iraq, one of his first projects was personal: He wanted to improve on the design of the prosthetics he'd been using since he lost part of his right arm in an ambush near Haditha. Kuniholm and his colleagues founded the Open Prosthetics Project, an open-source collaboration that shares its innovations freely." - Mickey Schafer
(just kvetching)Trying to locate an article but publisher (routledge) has placed an 18 month embargo on electronic availability -- stupid stupid stupid. Bad for consumers, but particularly bad for the researchers -- why publish anywhere with that much of a delay when the specialty is early childhood education and ICT?
On the web: links to web-based resources for teaching about interpreting evidence (provided by NSTA): http://science.nsta.org/enewsle...
"Study: 2 in 5 Teachers disheartened with profession" http://www.eschoolnews.com/news...
"What the survey found was disheartening in itself: 40 percent of teachers reportedly are disheartened, 37 percent are merely content, and only 23 percent of teachers are idealists." - Mickey Schafer
"Contented teachers are more likely to report excellent working conditions, be experienced in their profession, work in middle or higher-income schools, and believe their students' test scores have increased a lot because of their teaching. These teachers are more likely to say that their schools are "orderly, safe, and respectful." Also, a majority of these teachers hold a graduate... more... - Mickey Schafer
See the "Also of Interest" box for recent reports on education and tech intersection. - Mickey Schafer
compares well with the general average of 5 in 5 - Mike Chelen
Got an invite to Google Wave today from a former student currently doing MA work in the U.K. Woo hoo! Now, I just need to figure out how it works.
There are some wonderful waves and websites. If you are looking for anything specific please let me know. - Holly Rae, FFer
If you figure it out, be sure to let everyone else know. :) - Curtiss Grymala
Thanks so much, Matt. Thus far, I've only once hit a key (don't know which it was) which through me into edit mode. Twice. Deleted them, then back to the wave I was on..riding..writing..blipping..what on earth is the proper vocab?! - Mickey Schafer from email
lol! - Mickey Schafer from email
Using music to ease patient's stress during surgery -- http://www.time.com/time...
Got this link from the NSTA's quick-hit list relating to interpreting evidence-based inquiry. Others include http://www.scientificamerican.com/article... and http://www.time.com/time... - Mickey Schafer
"The Effect of the Background Color of Computer Programs on the Functional State of Preschool Children Working on a Computer" in ISSN 0362-1197, Human Physiology, 2009, Vol. 35, No. 2, pp. 192–196. © Pleiades Publishing, Inc., 2009.
"In this connection, the objective of this work was to study the effect of work on a computer on five- to sixyear-old children using computer programs with differently colored backgrounds (lettuce green, blue, black, and gray-purple). The goal of this research was to determine the optimal (among the above) color scheme variants of the DS background for children aged five to six years." [DS = developing software] - Mickey Schafer
"An integrated assessment of the state of the CNS showed that children finished their work on a computer in a state of fatigue after using DS with a blue background (14%), black background (25%), or gray-purple background (25%). No signs of fatigue were observed only after working with DS on a lettuce green background. Thus, the presented results evidence that the most favorable color of the DS background is lettuce green." - Mickey Schafer
language in the article is quite different from typical "English" publications but I thought the main result was fairly interesting -- not an OA article, but interesting results! However, they don't define "lettuce green" -- I was expecting a red blue green value. - Mickey Schafer
I'd want to know a lot about the lighting in the room, too. - D0r0th34
the article is an interesting mix of detail and missing detail. There is a reference trail in the paper regarding proper "hygienic" and "physiological" characteristics of computer use by children -- lighting could be in that trail somewhere. - Mickey Schafer
"Believe it or not, computer games can be healthy": http://www.webmd.com/balance...
read this in print form while awaiting my h1n1 flu mist -- sooo looking forward to exercising valid excuse to play online! - Mickey Schafer
I'm pretty sure everyone I know has played a bunch of computer games. The others must have died off by now. :) - Steve Koch
Depends how many lives they had, Steve. - Matthew Todd
"An absolutely riveting online course: Nine principles for excellence in web-based teaching" -- http://www.cjlt.ca/index...
abstract: This article explores excellence in web-based teaching. Drawing on the views of experts in the field and the perspective of their own years of experience, the authors compiled a list of 9 principles to provide direction in the search for online excellence. The principles include: the online world is a medium unto itself; sense of community and social presence are essential to online excellence; in the online world, content is a verb; great online courses are defined by teaching, not technology. The list is not intended to be an exclusive set of principles or a comprehensive guide to online teaching. Rather it is a collection of important ideas and suggestions for teaching excellence in the online world. - Mickey Schafer
"A special issue shift from dual medium to open access academic publishing" -- http://www.cjlt.ca/index...
"Therefore, the Fall 2008 print issue is the last hard copy version of CJLT that will be distributed by mail to Canadian Network for Innovation in Education (CNIE) members. Starting with Volume 35 in Winter 2009, CJLT completes the transformation from dual media to a fully open access journal. CJLT will provide immediate open access to its content on the principle that making research freely available to the public supports a greater global exchange of knowledge. CNIE members will be notified by email as new issues of CJLT are published online." - Mickey Schafer
"With the transition to open access, the CJLT Editorial team is in a great position to consider educational technology research and scholarship that goes beyond the primarily text and graphics rich print medium. While print journals continue to serve the research community well, it seems fitting for scholars in educational technology to chart and explore new Web 2.0 and Web 3.0... more... - Mickey Schafer
Researcher Jim Jansen On The “Sex” Of Search Queries & Personalization -- http://searchengineland.com/researc...
"Again, it’s a “why” thing. We spend a lot of time in web search trying to personalize to the individual level and really haven’t got very far. But now people are trying to do things like personalize to the task rather than the individual person, and there’s some interesting things happening there. Spell checks and query reformulations and things like that are very task-oriented rather than individual searcher oriented." - Mickey Schafer
on the counter-intuitive "mystery" that gender-neutral queries were more successful "We looked at it this way: not whether the searcher was male or female but did the particular query fit a gender stereotype—did it have a kind of a male, for example, feel to it or stereotype implications?" - Mickey Schafer
*jaw drops* This is so methodologically ludicrous it makes my head hurt. - D0r0th34
Good resource for understanding ethical writing -- and written for students in the sciences (much work on plagiarism and such is done from a humanities perspective) -- "Avoiding plagiarism, self-plagiarism, and other questionable writing practices: A guide to ethical writing" -- http://facpub.stjohns.edu/~roigm... -- freely available
ah, so self-plagiarism would be to include one's prior works without proper citation? - Mike Chelen
Yes, Mike that is self plagiarism. In terms of student work it may be submitting the same (or suvstantially the same) price of work for two different assessments, thereby getting two sets of marks for one peice of work. - Jo Badge from iPod
An interesting and useful distinction between research and scholarly writing and ordinary freelance writing. For freelancers, "self-plagiarism" is another term for survival--reusing good material in as many venues as possible. - Walt Crawford
Self-plagiarism is the one that trips most students up -- in fact, I was asked privately by a colleague to defend a student (freshman) who's failed a class b/c of this; my colleague had never heard of such a thing. But, rather like publishing a paper, you are not allowed to use the same work twice w/out instructor permission. One rather frequent violation is among my premed students who... more... - Mickey Schafer
Walt -- and the same goes for teaching! Imagine never being able to use a lesson plan or activity in a class with a different employer. But the model in college/university is much closer to that of academic publishing as opposed to almost any other kind of trade publication. Personally (and I teach my students this strategy), while in college, I would take at least 2 classes similar enough in content that I could at least share part of a bibliography, even if the papers I wrote were distinct. - Mickey Schafer
Pages 11-15 on "highly technical language" are the ones I really focus on -- my answer to this is to teach students to synthesize sources, which is what this little blurb is aimed to do: http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users... - Mickey Schafer
@mickey your synthesising sources blurb is fab stuff! Do you mind if I share it with some colleagues at Leicester? we have an online tutorial designed to help students avoid plagiarism - see: http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices... the first one was written for biologists, but then it went on to be customised for lots of subjects. The subject specific nature helps deal with some of the issues you have raised above. - Jo Badge
I'd be happy for you to use it, Jo! It's the rough draft of part of a "manuscript" I've been working on for too long now. Considering just tidying everything up and dumping it online somewhere to see if it can be of use. For my classes, I do dredge up discipline-specific examples for students to practice on. I pull out individual paragraphs rather than have them look at whole articles -- it's all for practice before writing review papers. - Mickey Schafer
Is anyone else experiencing FF problems the last couple days? I've been getting many stalls and error messages.
Once in a while, yes--just as FB has recently been stalling a lot. (In my experience, FB is doing much worse than FF.) - Walt Crawford
Thanks, Walt. It's been frustrating, and yesterday while showing FF to a student, was a bit embarrassing -- he's actually pretty tech savvy, though, and did a good job of being impressed by FF, Delicious, Open Access, and JoVE. - Mickey Schafer
noticed this last night - taking it as a sign some work is being done to move FF onto new servers - Dan Freeman
live tech demos are always a crapshoot - I've been lucky for the most part this term - at least with FF - Jean-Claude Bradley
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