"At the time, psychologists assumed that children’s ability to wait depended on how badly they wanted the marshmallow. But it soon became obvious that every child craved the extra treat. What, then, determined self-control? Mischel’s conclusion, based on hundreds of hours of observation, was that the crucial skill was the “strategic allocation of attention.” Instead of getting obsessed with the marshmallow—the “hot stimulus”—the patient children distracted themselves by covering their eyes, pretending to play hide-and-seek underneath the desk, or singing songs from “Sesame Street.” Their desire wasn’t defeated—it was merely forgotten. “If you’re thinking about the marshmallow and how delicious it is, then you’re going to eat it,” Mischel says. “The key is to avoid thinking about it in the first place.” In adults, this skill is often referred to as metacognition, or thinking about thinking, and it’s what allows people to outsmart their shortcomings. (When Odysseus had himself tied to...
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- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This is an interesting quote because it implies that "will power" is more about mental strategy, not some kind of mental strength for forcing yourself to do something. I have the same strategy with food -- I eat whatever I see, so in order to not eat something I just need to put it out of sight.
- Paul Buchheit
effectively "out of sight, out of mind"
- alphaxion
This is where the magic of science is: you spend time and resources to prove a proverb.
- .i.m.a.r.s.o.r.a.m.a.
"The child who could wait fifteen minutes had an S.A.T. score that was, on average, two hundred and ten points higher than that of the kid who could wait only thirty seconds."
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Sometimes I worry my metacognition is slowing me down because I'm spending less time just cogniting. (that oughtta be a word.) But no, in all seriousness, I think something, then realize the thought was there before I subvocalized it, and then I go in a circle several times subvocalizing those same thoughts as I examine the process of thinking. Frustrating!
- Andrew C
Some friends and I refer to this study often, pointing out when we've failed the marshmallow test. Staying up late is my most common mashmallow test failure (sacrificing morning time to enjoy a few more bleary hours NOW), but it's easy to spot this sort of behavior and fun to have a standard vocabulary to highlight its ubiquity.
- Seth
As a parent, I consciously used this strategy to distract my children whenever they got in mischief, behaved badly or acted out. As a grandparent, I often send a box of tricks, things like super balls, an "uno" deck, paints, a book, a yoyo or top, for my daughter to use with my grandchildren when they are driving her crazy and need to think about something other than running around screaming.
- Phil Boiarski
OK, that makes sense, but let's flip this on its head - How do you instead keep your mind on something and prevent yourself from getting distracted? You can't distract yourself from your distractions. Andrew C, the word you're looking for is cogitating.
- Mr. Gunn
Mr Gunn, thanks. Though I think 'cogniting' is a touch funnier.
- Andrew C
Some chimpanzees use this strategy as well, though not all of them.
- Björn Brembs
i think bhudda had some theory on this too...:/
- Paul Moss
I'm going to marshmallow-train my kids!!
- Jess Lee
Today my 4yo daughter was having trouble waiting for a treat, so I told her (and my wife) about reading this article last night. I talked about the ability to distract - and I thought I was doing a pretty good job of explaining it in 4yo terms. When I was done with my paraphrase/lesson, I asked her if she understood. "Uh-huh," she said. Then after a few moments, she asked if we could stop and get some marshmallows on the way home. All I could do is laugh!
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
I read a different writeup of this experiment a couple years ago, when our daughter was about 1 year old. Its something that can be taught, and encouraged. She's now very good at distracting herself from something which she knows she shouldn't do or would get into trouble over. She's not easily distracted in general: she can focus quite well on something she wants to do (and is allowed to do).
- DGentry
"The three-judge panel gave the governor and lawmakers 45 days to present a plan to cut the inmate population from about 150,000 to 110,000 over two years. The judges delivered a stern message about conditions that are so poor in some prisons that they violate inmates' constitutional rights....In general, the 33-prison system is at nearly double its capacity. Even under the judicial order, the system would remain overcrowded, at 137.5 percent of capacity."
- bob
from Bookmarklet
I wonder if they intentionally chose the verb "slash".
- Paul Buchheit
I say they hold a lottery for the prisoners.
- Kenton
give them .. give all people, when it is still time - an education, health care, work ... so that this all crap of the biggest prison population in the world, biggest deficits, would never happen again
- Petr Buben
Paul: do you think "cut" would be better than "slash"? Or maybe "shiv"?
- Gabe
The ACLU has a plan: http://www.aclunc.org/action... 1) Replace the Death Penalty with Permanent Imprisonment 2) Close the Youth Prisons 3) Keep the Response to Petty Drug Possession Local 4) Fix the Three Strikes Law.
- Ruchira S. Datta
a comment from http://sacbee.com ------So Arnold cuts $1 Billion from California's Higher Education Systems. The simple fact is 250,000 Students will be denied Community College Access and 40,000 student slots are now removed from the CSU System. And, Arnold wants $1.9 Billion for New State Prisons, and there are no cuts to the California Department of Corrections, where according to...
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- Petr Buben
"One place that takes advantage of this pinging is FriendFeed. This means if you have added your shared items to your FriendFeed account, you and your friends will see them there within a few seconds the "Share" link being pressed in Reader (special thanks to FriendFeeder Benjamin Golub for making sure the experience was as smooth as possible)."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
PubSubHubbub is awesome. I've noticed that, thanks to FriendFeed and Feedburner supporting PubSubHubbub, entries from my blog show up on FriendFeed faster than I can switch tabs. Google reader support is sweet.
- Mark Trapp
I literally checked in and pushed the last fix to make this work about 5 minutes ago :)
- Benjamin Golub
I've noticed that in the past ten minutes, cool
- M F
I use YYYY-MM-DD for file naming, so that it sorts automatically for me. For normal communication with other USians, I use MM/DD/YYYY.
- Ladybug Heather
Since many US websites support the "blue" format, are you, American rebels, often confused with the "red" one?
- Jérôme Flipo
+1 to yyyy-mm-dd Heather. That's about the only one I can think of any logical argument for. Looks like only east asia has this right.
- Joel Webber
i propose we start using yyyy-dd-mm just to mess things up properly ;-) (not really - *votes for yyyy-mm-dd)
- immaterial
yyyy-mm-dd - ISO8601 FTW! For everything else I think that the blues outnumber the reds. ;-)
- Andy Bold
They forgot a small region in silicon valley where they represent the date in seconds since epoch, formatted as n,nnn,nnn,nnn
- Chris Lamprecht
Red is a real anomaly here -- why in god's name do we insist on sorting these things completely weirdly in the US? Month first, seriously? Drives me nuts.
- Joel Webber
@Joel - and we still measure length in inches & feet, weight in pounds, etc. It's kind of embarrassing.
- Chris Lamprecht
yellow makes most sense....still it would be an "anomaly" on this map
- Chris Hofmann
Amit, agree but so used to the blue format of course.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've never understood the red format, didn't realise it was US only though.
- Kol Tregaskes
red format follows how many people say the date "July 10, 2009". For day to day communication with people, the blue "10th July, 2009" makes sense because the day will change more freqently than any other. For the best logic and system use, the yellow "2009, July 10th" is the best especially when you look at how we use the rest of the time denominations (23 hours, 22 minutes, 21 seconds ad nausium).
- alphaxion
I hate date formats. How many years finding bugs in other people's code where a particular date format is simply assumed? User entered '10/7/2009' so is that 10th of July or 7th of October? Can't rely on regional settings as the number of times that's been set incorrectly or not set at all because it's a remote connection beggars belief. And then there's the code that didn't realise that SQL Server was storing in native US format so every time it was read and rewritten to the database it flipped over. Hate.
- Mark H
Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it?
- Ian Wilker
Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust!
- Jorge Escobar
WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement.
- Frankie Warren
@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track"
- Jesse Stay
The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track"
- Frankie Warren
Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track.
- Jesse Stay
That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track
- Jesse Stay
/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Killer feature. I'm watching news about Honduras scrolling by. Very useful.
- Chris Baskind
Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :)
- Frankie Warren
BTW, integrating this into my blog right now
- Jesse Stay
Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned
- Daniel J. Pritchett
this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way.
- Ted Gilchrist
Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;)
- Brandon Titus
I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems.
- Chris Lamprecht
I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please?
- Marg Uerite
You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that...
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- Mike Doeff
Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track.
- Jesse Stay
Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code.
- Dan Hsiao
Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different.
- Mike Doeff
Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts).
- Mike Doeff
Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :)
- Rick Turoczy
Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track".
- Jesse Stay
I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks!
- topo
The first step in a storystreaming platform!
- Kevin Sablan
Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team.
- Micah Wittman
Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work.
- Ferruh Mavituna
OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:)
- Michael Fidler
Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :)
- Ross Miller
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :)
- alfred westerveld
Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more?
- Matt Cutts
two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;)
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
We are there, in the battle against Twitter
- Michael_techie
I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
One thing I have noticed is that in any ovie, v show, etc where anything odd happens, the English are always portrayed as standing in place saying something like "This can't be happening" or some stupid thing like that, when it clearly IS happening. Is this some sort of national trait? I like to think that if, say, the dead rise and turn on the living, I would fight back + run to safety FIRST and worry about the ontological implications after.
- Neal Jansons
Laugh, sure. But your pounds sterling end up in a California bank account. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
My cousin dl'ed the Moron Test and tried to get me to take it. I told him he'd already failed because he was a moron for buying it in the first place. He was unamused. I wasn't.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
To be fair, he's kind of a tool, so it's less a reflection of the app and more a reflection of how much I want to throw him off the nearest high-rise.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I notice that the U.S. is no longer a nation of morons -- for the last few days, "The Sims 3" is #1, so we're now a nation of replicants.
- Stephen Mack
got this after my first intelligent use of ff filtered search. populist USA likes to feign ignorance and UK likes to superficial awareness
- Lane Rapp
"During the 1990s the Netherlands faced a shortage of prison cells, but a decline in crime has since led to overcapacity in the prison system. The country now has capacity for 14,000 prisoners but only 12,000 detainees. Deputy justice minister Nebahat Albayrak announced on Tuesday that eight prisons will be closed, resulting in the loss of 1,200 jobs. Natural redundancy and other measures should prevent any forced lay-offs, the minister said."
- bob
from Bookmarklet
If you believe that poverty helps breed crime...then how long until those laid-off workers increase the need for prisons?
- Ryan Kaisoglus
Ryan: They know it's the only way to get their jobs back. ;-)
- Kevin Fox
"You are looking at pictures of a house I built for our family in Wales. It was built by myself and my father in law with help from passers by and visiting friends. 4 months after starting we were moved in and cosy. I estimate 1000-1500 man hours and £3000 put in to this point. Not really so much in house buying terms (roughly £60/sq m excluding labour). The house was built with maximum regard for the environment and by reciprocation gives us a unique opportunity to live close to nature. Being your own (have a go) architect is a lot of fun and allows you to create and enjoy something which is part of yourself and the land rather than, at worst, a mass produced box designed for maximum profit and convenience of the construction industry. Building from natural materials does away with producers profits and the cocktail of carcinogenic poisons that fill most modern buildings."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Before reading any words my fist thought was "but Bag End has a round door". Then I realised this was not actually a picture of a Hobbit house.
- Andy Kruger
That was a few years ago. I would love to awesome current pictures of that house, how jasot stood up to the elements?
- Christian Burns
"What happened, Arreguín-Toft wondered, when the underdogs likewise acknowledged their weakness and chose an unconventional strategy? He went back and re-analyzed his data. In those cases, David’s winning percentage went from 28.5 to 63.6. When underdogs choose not to play by Goliath’s rules, they win, Arreguín-Toft concluded, “even when everything we think we know about power says they shouldn’t.”"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Wow, interesting. Also: is that a record for colons in an web page title?
- Ted Roden
Entertaining Gladwell Blink-like piece. If the little guy is creative he has a better chance of winning, I agree. But this works only if the big guy won't adapt. So all you big guys out there: get a move on! :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
I think it's emblematic of game-changing startups. What's fascinating to me is how long a company can hold on to that "work immensely hard and break all the rules phase." What impressed me about Microsoft is that they did it for a full 15 or so years (between 1985 and 2000 when the Anti-Trust suit went on). I wonder if there are any companies that regularly exceed that.
- Piaw Na
Piaw, drug cartels have adapted successfully over long periods of time.
- Todd Hoff
"Why, then, did weak teams play in a way that made it easy for good teams to do the very things that made them so good?" - Because a good team can easily break the full court pressure of a poor team which leaves the basket open for an easy score. Concentrating your players in a coordinated team defense is a better strategy. They probably won because they used a novel strategy teams hadn't prepared for. Since this is an iterative game teams will adjust next year.
- Todd Hoff
Todd++ The article gravely understates the faults of the full court press. As well, top college teams don't use it because _they have to recruit star players who want to go to the NBA_. And they don't use it in the NBA because you can't use a gimmick defense in the league and not get beat in the playoffs (edit: because the playoffs are seven game series each, so teams can adjust). So a college team won't get star players if they're all about the press.
- Andrew C
is this another case of the insiders nay-saying the unconventional strategy? so what is your take-away from this entire article?
- Serge
Serge, Gladwell covered some of this territory before in Blink when he wrote about the Red Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) trouncing the conventional military in a war game simulation. So breaking the rules as a means of success is well established. Hannibal's campaigns against Rome and a million others have show this. One interesting question is why do people so...
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- Todd Hoff
"So breaking the rules as a means of success is well established" - see also Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru! (sorry, but someone had to do it.) Serge, my take-away is that not enough teams in that league devoted enough time to learning how to break a full court press. It's just a matter of inbounding and passing. Once broken, the defending team is badly out of position to defend a basket...
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- Andrew C
And the league doesn't spend time training for it because there's not enough payback for doing so.. .Until someone does it and wins. :-)
- Piaw Na
Sure. I guess my problem with this basketball example is that it's not quite like the wargame example, where the computer program found dominant strategies for a game with underspecified rules. (Since the real point of the wargames was to produce viable real-world strategies.) Here, the coach was exploiting a temporary flaw (inability to beat the press), but it's presented as on par with discovering that, say, the wargame's rules favoured immobile but heavily armed ships.
- Andrew C
Turns out formulabisnis.com (Oddly there's no link in the email) is some sort of Indonesian "make money fast on teh internets" scam. I do not think that word means what they think it means.
- Joel Webber
This type of spam might be used to (try to) add noise to spam filters. Spammers rarely waste their time. :-(
- Daniel Dulitz
I actually got Fuck You spam 2 days ago. I was going to reply "fuck you too!" but decided to be the bigger man.
- Robby Stein
Actually, spammers do waste their time quite a bit. I've gotten plenty of spam from obviously misconfigured spamming systems ("Dear [[NAME]], ..."). I think it's cheap enough that the cost of error is low, and it's not like they have a brand to protect by not being sloppy.
- ⓞnor
Please don't give the anonymous hordes a new goal. Because they will go there.
- Phil G
but can we scale it to find out if you're right that is the question :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
so your check will be for $1,000,000? :)
- Bwana ☠
how is shortcuts coming ? .. any contests there? :]
- Petr Buben
twitter's servers? are you high? those things are toast after the races of a gajillion to a million.. selling accounts was part of this race....it's Over
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
maybe paul & bret & co can build some server mojo for that project. twitter sure as hell can't
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
at 10 followers per second it should only take you about 3,169 years to reach a trillion followers. give twitter another 2, 3 millennia and they'll probably have the scaling thing licked by then
- Karim
i wish they would charge over 2000 followers.
- Richard A.
from fftogo
The new ui includes some useful keyboard shortcuts, but there's one "shortcut" that's not included in the FAQ. Can you find it? http://friendfeed.com/about
You know, this could all just be Paul's little revenge for all the "Make it Stop" "It's Ugly" "Mommy!" that we put him through on Monday.
- Kevin D. White
This can't be right, I'm sure p stands for pause.
- j1m
shift + backspace or spacebar seem to be undocumented keyboard shortcuts... Come on Paul, share , share
- Tweet Feeds
? goes to the search box just like the documented / - which places focus in search box
- Tweet Feeds
I wish I could move between conversations by using up and down arrow (or something similar) and then having something like "h" available to hide the item, "l" for like maybe. But easy hiding would be most important to me. Get all the BS off my screen. :)
- Meryn Stol
Ctrl + W = it miraculously increases your productivity :)
- Jeanette Bosman
Hm. 'gh' isn't working for me anymore.
- Rodfather
I explained the key sequence to my gf and she said, "oh that's from mortal kombat" ... I was more of a street fighter II kinda guy :)
- Chris Lamprecht
Weird. For me it's BA, and I only get a black box.
- Ken Sheppardson
That was the Konami code that let you play forever no matter how many times you died. I used it a lot in Ikari Warriors, Contra, and Lifeforce.
- Victor Ganata
yeah. i give up. i must not be doing it right. even checked the source.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
awesome. good call on the select/start keyboard equivalents.
- Aaron Fowler
Ha ha! Very cool! Brings back memories.
- Sam Grover
It's an Easter Egg in time for Easter!
- Jesse Stay
keyboard shortcuts(sc) are EXTREMELY important. look how nice Gmail got it! .. also here "?" needs to be help. sc need to be CONTEXTUAL! .. what the heck are we pressing "ctrl-w", when "w" would do?? WHY Google home still doesn't have "/" ?? are they sleeping? :] http://www.google.com/support... ...... ...... ..... did you know shortcuts in Deutsch actually means " short cat" ? .. Kurze Katze , short Katze .. well, maybe its time to log off, on the other hand {:]
- Petr Buben
So the next language should probably be a Mono based C# support? :-) This would certainly kick Azure a bit if it was also integrated into Visual Studio.
- Eran Sandler
I saw this on the wall and couldn't tear myself away for like 20 minutes. There's such depth to it -- you immediately get value from far away and the value keeps increasing the closer you get. (Click the images to see more detail.)
- Tom Stocky
As a kid, we used to have a big book with a fold out map like this, based on the biblical account of history, and with really neat illustrations. I wish I remembered the book's name, but histomaps are really cool.
- Mark Trapp
Wow, that looks really cool, too -- though it seems like it might be a bit more complex, requiring a key to understand it completely.
- Tom Stocky
It wasn't as visually impacting from 10 feet away as this one you have here must be, but it was surprisingly readable from a foot or so away. On each of the branches, there were labels running along the branch indicating what civilization they belonged to.
- Mark Trapp
What is the horizontal scale? People? Land? Subjective greatness? A good visualization should promptly reveal its meaning.
- Antonio Piccolboni
Judging based on the pictures and my working knowledge of the civilizations, I'd say it's largely based on geographical reach and cultural influence, relative to the other powers shown at that particular time. Most histomaps I've seen tend to use that as the metric, anyway.
- Mark Trapp
Funny, it looks like the graph you get in Sid Meier's Civilization series of games. :)
- Ray Cromwell
Sounds like it's high time to make a rigorous version of this map. I propose the horizontal scale be share of world population under the same rule or belonging to one political system and the vertical scale, in sw eng style, be man*years.
- Antonio Piccolboni
wait, when we comment do you see us over some secret webcam script or something? If so, O HAI! *waves*
- Josh Haley
is this a complete overhaul of the UI? I hate when sites do that. Minor changes at a time a can handle. Think Facebook's first version to the previous version they had and the outcry. For some reason, I trust FF to do a better job redesigning a UI than FB :P
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
*wonders how many GreaseMonkeys will break* O_O
- Micah Wittman
Kirby Dance!!! <('-'<) ^('-')^ (>'-')>
- Alfredo
from fftogo
Wow, Iove how you have incoporated track, realtime, and more context to the conversation. This is awesome! Way to go guys!
- Christian Burns
Paul: I just realized I forgot to drop off my 3D glasses on the way out. Do I need to return them or will this same set work once things go live?
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken LOL. I'm going to start selling "official" FriendFeed 3d glasses until the launch.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
AJ: you missed the new friendfeed feature called "stun." And a few others, too! Can't show you them until Monday morning, though. I have more than an hour's worth of video to get up from what they showed us. Wow.
- Robert Scoble
I think they said it was ok to post the video now! :)
- Jay Neff
jquery 1.3 breaks the bfcache because it binds the onunload event. This makes the back button slower and more annoying. See https://developer.mozilla.org/En... for more info on the bfcache.
So is the bfcache part of the reason that Firefox tends to use so much memory?
- Robert Felty
I don't know why Firefox uses so much memory, but the bfcache is a good thing, and people should avoid breaking it.
- Paul Buchheit
Odd, the issue trail seems to suggest this was only added to address problems in IE and Firefox 2, but Resig is reluctant to remove it for other browsers due to tidiness issues? Seems like there's a part of the story missing.
- Mark Trapp
The point of the bfcache is that the page is left intact so that it can be restored very fast. This practice of doing manual de-allocation on page unload is insane -- it's sadly necessary for IE, but is not something that we should be doing for non-broken browsers.
- Paul Buchheit
Here is one way to fix it: $.event.remove(window, "unload"), but I don't know if jquery1.3 is depending on this event. For now, I may just stick with 1.2.1.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks for the fix Paul, we're still using 1.2.6, which appears to have the problem, too. Nobody's complained about it yet, but this is probably going to be a larger issue for us in the near future.
- Mark Trapp