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Re: No, Virginia, the Apple Tablet is a big fat Fairy Tale - http://www.RexBlog.com/2009...
"Good mockery there Rex - I specially like the way you use irony in your mockery in defense of your parody. Well done."
- Michael Turro
Re: No, Virginia, the Apple Tablet is a big fat Fairy Tale - http://www.RexBlog.com/2009...
"Reverse psychology. I like it."
- Michael Turro
Re: Car Flipped By Wrecking Ball, Real or Fake? [Viral Videos] - http://mashable.com/2009...
"I KNOW for a fact that this is not an actual accident. It's a scene from the movie "The Other Guys" starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg. I know this because I work three blocks north of this shoot (on 27th and park south) and the set caused me some inconvenience in getting to work and lunch. They took over Gregory's Coffee shop on the day they filmed this and getting my morning joe was a bitch. The only question I have is whether or not this video has been planted as part of a "viral" marketing campaign or not."
- Michael Turro
Re: Keep A Close Eye on Chris Messina for the Web's Future - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
"Right on - Messina has been blowing my mind since his days with Loggins. ;) Seriously though - Following the thought product of @chrismessina is vital."
- Michael Turro
Re: Maybe Murdoch isn’t nuts about blocking Google - http://www.viralhousingfix.com/2009...
"Yeah... as soon as that came rolling off my finger tips I thought of at least half a dozen ways to do a mag with out USPS ;)"
- Michael Turro
Re: Maybe Murdoch isn’t nuts about blocking Google - http://www.viralhousingfix.com/2009...
"Whether there's a logic at work or not - doing business on the internet while blocking Google is like putting out a magazine without using the USPS - possible yes, wise...?"
- Michael Turro
Re: Maybe Murdoch isn’t nuts about blocking Google - http://www.viralhousingfix.com/2009...
"It's a web, a network. Trying to segment it, block it out, is a fools errand and will lead to serious and unintended repercussions. Looking only at referral logs is a recipe for disaster... sure Google may only drive 13% of a given site's traffic, but the search engine's influence is latent in every other referral site on the list. Not acknowledging that is serious mistake."
- Michael Turro
Re: It’s not magazines that need saving - http://www.RexBlog.com/2009...
"In the immortal words of the Flight of the Conchords: "What are your overheads?" Rex is totally in the zone with this one... Although I might add that beyond the "Geary-designed dining rooms, cars for all executives, legendary expense accounts" there lies a profound and somewhat unmanageable cultural problem. The people who make mass market magazines have no idea how to respond to a steady wave of technological change that is de-massifying everything in site."
- Michael Turro
Re: That Strange Light you’re seeing is the future of magazines - http://www.RexBlog.com/2009...
"Brilliant."
- Michael Turro
Re: A simple Twitter proposal - http://www.viralhousingfix.com/2009...
"Dan: you should post this over at microsyntax.org - they're already working in this direction."
- Michael Turro
Re: Former <i>Time</i> Editor Jim Gaines: Did You Get the Memo? - mediabistro.com: FishbowlNY - http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbow...
"please... nothing beats fresh perspective."
- Michael Turro
"please... nothing beats fresh perspective."
- Michael Turro
Re: Former <i>Time</i> Editor Jim Gaines: Did You Get the Memo? - mediabistro.com: FishbowlNY - http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbow...
"You know, that DONUT thing is humorous, but so important. As soon as a killer device drops so might paper."
- Michael Turro
Re: It’s a free concert from now on: Woodstock as media allegory - http://mturro.com/2009...
"Hmmm.... tried to research that before writing this and it was difficult to find a definitive answer. The only info I could find stated it was Monck. I was only a month old so I wasn't there... but I'm willing to take your word on it."
- Michael Turro
Re: FLYP's James Gaines Offers Old Media A New Way Of Thinking About Online Content - mediabistro.com: FishbowlNY - http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbow...
"Ok, so Flype is pretty... I guess. That is, it's pretty in a digital edition, lets throw some bells, whistles and Flash at them kind of way. Still, if this is the future of magazine publishing the industry may be in some serious shit. If we can't get beyond this destination mentality, this egocentric way of looking at media, this fundamentally print conditioned approach that ignores the user's evolving and increasingly flow based media interaction, then I fear the die off we've seen recently will only be the beginning. Suggestions for Flype: Acknowledge the mediasphere you live in. Let your readers interact with your high quality content in a way that is natural to the web. Accentuate sharing (beyond the kind of lame email a friend feature). If magazine publishers really want to get serious about surviving they'd do well to worry less about digital presentation and more about how their content logically fits in the overall media ecology. Flash is nice, video is occasionally..."
- Michael Turro
Re: My two cents on Gates (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Not sure I want to live in Dave's police state. I agree there is a way to act when stopped or questioned by the police, but shear submissiveness is not it. Cops are human - believing that they either are omnipotent or pigs is equally ignorant. Deal with them from a position of respect and you will get that back. But what we sure as shit do not want is a state in which police on the street are exempt from real time criticism. The public must have the right to voice opinion free from fear of arrest. Anything else is just totalitarian bullshit."
- Michael Turro
WOW Amazon just bought Zappos, TechCrunch and @sarahcuda is reporting. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... My reactions:
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Zappos is a great company. $890 million in stock.
- Robert Scoble
Very cool for both companies. Zappos is one of the best companies I've ever seen the insides of.
- Robert Scoble
Should be great for AMZN stock price long-term with the similar customer-centric focus
- Alex Calic
Loved your vids on Zappos; they have higher mark-ups than normal amazon offerings as well
- James Watters
Press release: http://bit.ly/2x4bv
- Robert Scoble
Thank you robert i broke you the news minutes before it broke so your welcome lol
- nathan
That's great to hear since they are both amazing companies.
- Oracio
It should be trending on Twitter soon. Thanks Robert :)
- Amir
That reminds me... I need shoes.
- Michael Turro
This can mean only good things for Amazon
- Robert
What does this mean for Zappos culture?
- Michael Turro
Is that price right? $890 million? They had a billion in yearly revenues, right?
- David Damore
http://blogs.zappos.com/ceolett... is Tony's letter. Michael: I'm wondering what it means for Amazon. David: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Perhaps a more transparent Amazon?
- Michael Turro
Michael: I sure hope so!
- Robert Scoble
Why was the valuation so low? is it a low margin business? Shouldn't the valuation have been some multiple of sales?
- David Damore
David: retail is ALWAYS low margin.
- Robert Scoble
I never would've thought it would happen...wow indeed.
- John Blanton
Here is one of the many articles on the topic: http://www.earthtimes.org/article...
- Amir
@Scobleizer: Thannks for the link. reading it now
- David Damore
people shouldn't worry about the culture changing -- amazon bought shopbop.com and it has not changed a bit -- only for the better.
- Patricia
This is part of the evolution of business. I know there will be a lot of worried Zappos employees, but they shouldn't, this will help them in a long run. Other companies, like DSW, I am sure were looking at the Zappos model and wondering how they can capitalize on it.
- Erik Boles
David Damore - $890 million in stock, not raw money. you usually see a lower # on stock as it has a strong growth potential.
- Erik Boles
Excited overall but the one line in Tony's letter is a bit concerning "For Zappos, our vision remains the same: delivering happiness to customers, employees, and vendors. We just want to get there faster." Faster does not equal better.
- Jose Castillo
zappos means nothing to me - I live in Europe. But what an amazing video by Bazos. Low margins need economies of scale.buyin Zappos makes sense to me
- DC Crowley
Jose: the thing is, they laid off people last fall. They also don't have Amazon's brand. Everyone I know uses Amazon. Not everyone I know uses Zappos. This makes both brands better.
- Robert Scoble
@Eric Boles: Thanks. *Interesting.
- David Damore
Favorite line so far, actually a partial line: "... unless they bake us cookies and deliver them in person."
- David Damore
Just knew we would see the S word in there somewhere. [The S word is... synergy].
- David Damore
David: I wonder how the cultures will clash, though. Zappos is very transparent and fun. Amazon, closed and not so much fun. I wonder which culture will win?
- Robert Scoble
Hopefully they find a happy medium
- Robert Burgin
@Scobleizer: Sounds like they will have separate cultures. Can both cultures coexist? Me thinks yes. 75% on the upside.
- David Damore
Did this all break after the closing bell today?
- David Damore
Cool
- Zachary TG
@Scobleizer -- Zappos is tightly focused on culture and customer service, which has done them very well, I think Jeff will be able to help them move to the major presence they need to be. I don't see a conflict, I think Amazon can teach them a thing or two about business, and maybe, if the timing is right and people are open, Tony can teach zappos a thing or two about culture and loving your job
- Erik Boles
Yahoo Finance has the first article in headlines as "Amazon buys retailer Zappos in $807 million deal at MarketWatch (Wed 4:32pm)"
- David Damore
I once ordered some brown shoes and they sent black from the same style. When I complained they sent me the brown pair and let me keep both and included a $10 discount
- Mark
Thanks @scobleizer Just caught wind of the acquisition and it sounds like a good match to me despite the culture differences. Culture will take a hit, it's inevitable but hopefully Amazon will bring some interesting elements to the table to balance things out. One of my favorite photography sites http://www.dpreview.com was purchased by Amazon and at least outwardly the site has only improved.
- Rick Bucich
@Robert Scoble ...Any word if this is going to be a Dell/Alienware style merger.. or an outright purchase?
- John Blanton
John: looks like an outright purchase, but who knows? I gotta go do more homework.
- Robert Scoble
Hope Amazon doesn't screw them up - All my female relatives just rave about Zappos.
- PXLated
@Robert Scoble I would hope they let Zappos keep their brand/branding but it's just like you said yeah too early to tell at this point.
- John Blanton
Robert: Agreed, but I hope the desire to grow too fast doesn't kill the service - then it just becomes Amazon Shoes - granted, it will make a ton more money but at what cost to the end user. Should be interesting to watch unfold.
- Jose Castillo
@Robert Scoble ...according to this.. http://blogs.zappos.com/ceolett... .. Amazon will be the only shareholder yet Zappos is retaining their independance... So it's just like the Dell/Alienware merger.
- John Blanton
:( "wholly-owned subsidiary" just takes a little longer for the culture to be borged. For 920million I suppose it was too sweet of a deal to pass up. I'd love to be proven wrong here, Zappos corporate culture really is something special (from my views of it).
- Mark Essel
from intelligent media manager test
Murphy Goode took a good thing and screwed it up: http://friendfeed.com/leolapo...
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wow. talk about bad press. they don't know who they're messing with.
- geoff hines
Geoff: he should have gotten on the final 50 list if he had the most popular video. I'm not saying he should have gotten the final job, either. But yes they did screw up. By not letting the crowd have their day they are no better than Iranian elections. I think the same folks who did the Twitter Suggested User List did the judging here. Lame.
- Robert Scoble
Who is running the PR department over there? Horrible decision by murphy goode winery.
- Abe
Abe: the same guy who does the Iranian Elections and the Twitter Suggested User List decisions. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
For a company hoping to employ social media, it's obvious they don't have a clue.
- Frederick Hoey
I would think that we can talk about it for a few more hours....but then we need to stop uttering the words Murphy Goode. Remember the old adage about bad publicity. So let's not give them any publicity at. all.
- Mike Dowden
Wasn't the whole idea to reach out & market to the twitter community? Obviously Martin was able to garner more eyes than anyone else.
- David Bailey
I'm guessing they already have a person picked out that they want and are using this simply as a marketing ploy. Just say no to Murphy Goode. Plenty of other good wines to drink.
- David Bailey
David: exactly. Kevin Rose just talked about this too: http://friendfeed.com/kevinro...
- Robert Scoble
these plays for jobs are really sad, prey on the desperation of new media kids.
- sean percival
Murphy Goode has no idea how badly they've butchered their company. They got more press since he uploaded his video than they ever got before and now its all for nothing because everyone who discovered them will turn against them. The tech community is very powerful and very loyal.
- Justin Luey
in the process, they harvested about 6,000 of our email addresses.
- Ron Hixson
Suckers! :p
- Mark
Has the winery given a response to this? Are they even aware they screwed the pooch here?
- Michael Turro
Michael: I have no idea, but they should be watching Twitter Search at minimum for their brand name if they want to play in this field.
- Robert Scoble
I missed this whole story. Is the deal a Wine company was offering a special job and Martin applied and lost?
- Mark
This is the Murphy Goode Winery, who was having a contest to find a social media expert to represent the winery. Mark, right. http://twitter.com/areally... is Murphy-Goode's Twitter account.
- Robert Scoble
Martin had the #1 YouTube video and wasn't on the Top 50 list.
- Robert Scoble
My friend made a very cool video.... more clever than some of the other finalists - and he didn't make the cut. http://tr.im/pMcK
- Lisa Osborne
Was the contest a popularity one as in the most votes wins or was it a best person wins deal?
- Mark
Mark: popularity should at least be considered it seems if you're going to ask the public to participate.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, I see.
- Mark
I'm not saying Martin should have won the final job. Maybe he didn't fit. But he should have been on the final 50 list.
- Robert Scoble
Great that all of us in tech have a means of realtime communication to overcome these types of situations.
- courtney benson
Staging a "contest" when they've already obviously identified their man is the silly part.
- Matthew DeVries
Unfortunately they're in an industry where negative press = good press
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: no, we aren't. Bad press still is bad. It's better than no press sometimes, but not always.
- Robert Scoble
You aren't Murphy-Goode is, sorry twas unclear.
- Matthew DeVries
I just thought it was bad they copied this idea. http://www.islandreefjob.com/
- Jim Turner
Yeah, but the island reef people waited until the contest was over to pick their person.
- Matthew DeVries
Without a doubt, he should have been on the final 50 list. The contest doesn't seem to have any rules that would exclude him (just took a quick look). This way, they could have used any criteria for not choosing him as a final 10 contestant and/or the winner. By doing it this way, they may get attention, but as you noted, its not good attention and for owners of the winery, I'm sure this is not something they anticipated when they agreed to this contest.
- Jeff Pomeroy
Interesting logical flaw - they selected the finalists based on their measured ability to generate web2.0 traffic. Logical next step is that this person could do the same for their brand. THEN they completely fail to proceed, with the person left feeling 'screwed over, plus thousands of potential clients that left their emails and also feel 'screwed over'. The logical next step is that...
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- Alistair Nicholson
Right, Alistair-- let's source via social media.. then ignore all of the networks. The responses seem to be mixed in the wine community; the social media community seems to be more insulted! Some reactions: http://bit.ly/s9Wei .
- Julie
I'm going purple to protest the injustice. http://digg.com/celebri...
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i've gone red avatar on twitter. it contrasts the green & makes it more like the holidays. heh
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I'm thinking maybe a red ribbon in the corner of my pic :)
- Thomas
Murphy-Goode went bad. @agoodjob ? No.
- Robert Scoble
Seriously?
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason: seriously: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Wow, you're all so sensitive to world events. Are you all oblivious to the events in Iran or do you just not care?
- Kevin Arth
We all like Martin at the TWiT Army to be honest. We are not happy at all about this.
- Mark
Kevin: screw off.
- Robert Scoble
Oh Kevin fuck off
- Mark
by that logic one would never discuss anything but the bad news in the world
- Mark
Kevin: I've been covering the events in Iran from the beginning. You are a real jerk for trying to bring that up in this conversation.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: that got you very close to a block. You want to go further?
- Robert Scoble
We are able to multi-task Kevin
- Bill Heslin
I love how Kevins theory is that we must at all times endlessly discuss shit things going on in this messed up world. The moment we go off-topic: BOOM!
- Mark
Hmmm... Martin's cool and all, and Murphy-Goode screwed up bad, but doesn't going the color avatar route for something like this kind of cheapen the token for something more weighty - like people being killed on Iran or Peru or whereever?
- Michael Turro
You're comparing the snubbing of Martin Sargent to the treatment of protesters in Iran?!? You're JUST like a Republican!
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Wendell: give me a break. We are now using colors to protest anything, not just Iran.
- Robert Scoble
http://kevinarth.posterous.com/ Kevin's Website xx
- Mark
And if Mark Teixeira is not the starting 1b for the AL in the All-Star game I'm going to go with Yankee blue...
- Michael Turro
Michael, since when does having a colored avatar have to represent people being killed? It doesn't make the green avatars any less effective or meaningful
- Alan Hoskins
Actually it can have exactly that effect
- Michael Turro
Perfect opportunity for @garyvee...
- Brian Hill
Brian: yeah, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
Seriously, the Martin Sargent kerfuffle is more like how Farrah Fawcett got ignored after Michael Jackson died.
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Hey Robert
- Brian Hill
Oh god PLEASE NOT HIM! I have a headache as it is ;)
- Mark
@dahowlett just unfollowed.
- Mark
Mark: I'd engage with him, but it's not worth the time either.
- Robert Scoble
The reason the green works is because it is identifiable, singular, easy to see. If we all start using colors for anything we find offensive we're going to need a play book to know what color corresponds to which injustice. After a while the gesture empties of any significance.
- Michael Turro
Scoble, what color to protest Adam Savage's phone bill?
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Wendell: I don't even know who that is. So Orange. :-)
- Robert Scoble
The winery motto is: "We take our wines seriously. Ourselves.... not so much." Doesn't that sound like Martin?
- Chris Pugh
Adam Savage is the Mythbuster's guy with the $11,000 AT&T bill
- Alan Hoskins
Adam Savage is the guy on MythBusters. And Wendell, AT&T fixed that issue about two hours ago.
- Wizetux
Okay, then, what color for Michelle Bachmann's crazy Census protest? Or to protest crazy Michelle Bachmann?
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Wendell: start a wiki.
- Robert Scoble
You chaps talk a spiffing amount of nonsense sometimes xx
- Mark
Sometimes?
- Robert Scoble
Nonsense is the whole reason I follow these conversations in the first place!
- Benjamin Smith
Why do I feel like "start a wiki" is a euphemism for something unpleasant? Or should be?
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
What color can I use to protest the fact that AT&T hasn't shipped my 3GS yet?
- Michael Turro
It could be a dysphemism for something wonderful.
- Mark
Wendell: start a wiki. You keep asking questions that need to be answered on a wiki. Sort of like a hashtag list. That's a wiki too.
- Robert Scoble
I can confirm Twitter is buying Friendfeed for £299.10
- Mark
Subscribing to Mark because he knows what "dysphemism" means. :)
- Christopher A Carr
haha
- Mark
Mark has a private feed...Isn't that a No No? lol...
- Bill Heslin
I am afraid I am the worst Friendfeeder in the world so don't subscribe to me.
- Mark
Didn't somebody already do a wiki for all the different colored ribbons? Should append onto that.
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Not subscribing to Mark because, as regards Friendfeed, he's not doing it right. ;)
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: yeah, but it isn't cacophemism like dahowlett practices.
- Robert Scoble
cacophemism, thats a new one for me
- Mark
Makes me wanna sub even more Mark :) And Christopher...LMFAO
- Bill Heslin
Mark: it's on the wikipedia entry for dysphemism. :-)
- Robert Scoble
A word or expression that is generally perceived as harsh, impolite, or offensive. Similar to dysphemism. Contrast with euphemism. Adjective: cacophemistic.
- Mark
I had to look those words up. They are above my pay grade.
- Robert Scoble
*fist bump* for the vocabulary Mark
- Bill Heslin
Robert: - you just looked at the wikipedia entry for dysphemism, didn' you?
- Michael Turro
The way I was tought about the two was like this: a eup is "The knife entered him and his life force dripped away. dys: "The knife entered him and he slowly bled to death in angonising pain"
- Mark
one implicit one explicit i guess
- Mark
Michael: I did! Took me back to my childhood when my mom made me look up words I didn't know in the dictionary. Me? I stick them into Google and the wikipedia entry came up.
- Robert Scoble
I just don't want to use up all the good colors right away; then if North Korea nukes South Korea, in order to protest that we'll have to use some awful color like Fuchsia that nobody can even spell (I had to look it up).
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
I ask Bill Hill if I need help with tricky words http://billhillsblog.blogspot.com/
- Mark
Mark: Bill Hill is too smart for me. Again, above my pay grade.
- Robert Scoble
We are all homosapien version 1.0 after all.
- Mark
I know... because I did the exact same thing and read the exact same words at probably (almost) the same exact time - real time, dig it
- Michael Turro
I's got a wittle scared when I saw Bill H come up...Whew...not me......it was Bill Hill...lol
- Bill Heslin
Mark: actually I'm 1.03. :-)
- Robert Scoble
words are cool
- Michael Turro
I'm just glad I stuck around for all the -phemisms.
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Yes Bill Heslin, the cleverer, sexier Bill ;) Bill Hill. Microsoft man of many years
- Mark
Mark: laid off by Microsoft recently. Sad.
- Robert Scoble
Bill Hill: the man who introduced me to Scoble on Channel9
- Mark
Ummmm...maybe cleverer...but not sexier...:)
- Bill Heslin
Yeah I know Rob :(
- Mark
Scoble, 1.03 had some bugs that were fixed in 1.03.1
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Mark: Bill HIll was my first interview on Channel 9.
- Robert Scoble
Who ever watched Scoble and Bill on video crawling about all over MS campus talking about everything under the sun?
- Mark
Stonkingly good video that
- Mark
I must find a link for it right now
- Mark
Wendell: Maryam and I are in development on 1.05.
- Robert Scoble
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts... From 2005
- Mark
I think in the end I'll go with what can pretty much encompass everything I could possibly protest. All white.
- Thomas
Kk...back to my main stream....I don't have multiple monitors like most of ya'll...but that makes it more fun...
- Bill Heslin
R.S.: I've heard about your beta testing...
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
This is a comment Robert made in 2005 when asked about video quantity while working at Channel9: "There's a ton of stuff still to come. I can only post six vids a day."
- Mark
Six videos a day! Insanity!
- Mark
Mark: those are the good old days! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I remember when you got that video with the IE team and they were all super pleased they were bringing RSS To IE7. They Had "IE7 Loves RSS" tee shirts on.
- Mark
Another favourite was when you interviewed Larry Osterman about pranks at MS.
- Mark
Folks if you haven't been following Rob for more than a few years you should check out some of his stuff at channel 9. http://channel9.msdn.com/posts...
- Mark
...catching up on Bill Hill... joined Microsoft running its Typography group in 1994... way too late to blame him for Arial... good for him... but why couldn't he kill Comic Sans?
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
his team invented Cleartype Wendell, We all take that for granted these days
- Mark
I miss Osterman. By the way, on Channel 9 they just announced they are making changes to come. http://channel9.msdn.com sounds like good stuff to come.
- Robert Scoble
he is a very special guy, dont know what bone head manager decided to sack him
- Mark
that video on channel9 announcing changes reminded me of the first video ever on channel9 when you all discussed why it was going to be a bit special
- Mark
Mark: yeah, even if they didn't need his skills anymore they should have made him into a public spokesperson for Microsoft. Sad that they couldn't see some other way to use him.
- Robert Scoble
Welcome to Channel 9. We are five guys at Microsoft who want a new level of communication between Microsoft and developers. We believe that we will all benefit from a little dialogue these days. This is our first attempt to move beyond the newsgroup, the blog, and the press release to talk with each other, human to human.
- Mark
I, for one, do NOT take ClearType for granted. When I got my last recon'd laptop (I live on old ThinkPads), it didn't have it switched on. My eyes! My eyes! The goggles did nothing but the ClearType made it all better.
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
ClearType <3
- Mark
I've been told health care already has purple. I think yellow is still available.
- Leo Laporte
I'll stick with my catch-all color...
- Thomas
Who remembers the color wars from last year?
- Jesse Stay
JEEZUS!!!! signal-to-noise ratio here is zeeeeero (at least during the beginning of this thread, which is what counts, right, Leo?)
- Jason Miller
Leo, at least give Martin a color he can do schtick with, like Burnt Umber... because he got Burnt, right?
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
I've gone purple on my twitter now. I'll have to wait and see who asks about it.
- Tom Silk
@leolaporte - injustice indeed!!!! I'd go purple, but my GIMP is limp.
- Jason Miller
105 comments because Leo colored is avatar purple wow.
- Kim Landwehr
That's show business Kim.
- Mark
Wow, this thread went on a while. But, did anyone start a Wiki?
- Jason Nunnelley
Seriously, needs a Wikipedia page. I know you guys were razzing, but it's not a bad idea. "protest avatar" sounds more descriptive than "colored avatar." And, colored and coloured, there's a English to English translation issue with one of those.
- Jason Nunnelley
I made this during TWiF... http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Andrew Johnson
I'm familiar with the "caco-" morpheme. I added the "-" because, as far as I can tell, the morpheme is bound in modern English.
- Christopher A Carr
What was the first protest avatar?
- Jason Nunnelley
found out murphy goode has 2 twitter accounts -one w/ an e & one w/o: @areallygoodjob & @areallygoodejob
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I'm looking up avatar protests for the Wikipedia page. Got any links?
- Jason Nunnelley
this is interesting, just found out about this whole deal.. watching the beginning of TWIF now
- Anthony Kam
I see Leo's changed his avatar to something new - not purple.
- Jason Nunnelley
It was purple last night. I don't think he was being totally serious when he made the post anyways.
- Chris Heath
Man I feel like going out buying some Wine for some reason.
- John D Reasor
You're on my list Murphy-Goode (and it ain't a shopping list). "Murphy says Martin Sargent's #1 spot isn't good enough" http://digg.com/celebri...
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It's mind-boggling that he isn't the clear winner.
- Eric Geller
I think going out of our way to not buy their product is in order...
- Thomas
I support their decision. There are lots of good quality candidates with more credentials than Martin. I'm sorry, I like the guy, but just because he has a powerful internet posse at Revision 3 does not mean he deserves the job. There are lots of great candidates out there--some without a job--that don't have the extra pull of a podcast community to support them. I know I'm in the minority, but I had to say it.
- Fleagle
Unfortunately Fleagle, they don't specify that they're looking for a candidate without "the extra pull of a podcast community to support them." On the contrary, they WANT someone as connected as Martin to prop up their activities in the Web 2.0 community.
- Eric Geller
I wonder if the nature of his past works and the image that it portrayed onto him had anything to do with their choice. Would you, as a business owner, really want the host of such shows as infected, Web drifter, and Internet Superstar to be the spokes internet person for your company?
- Wizetux
And I'm not upset that he didn't get the job, but to not even be in the top 50?
- Thomas
Can we get a "Screw you!" at Murphy-Goode, Leo?
- Mike Nayyar
Eric, if all they want is someone with 'connections', then I guess they did miss the mark here. It's not my company, so I can only assume they have an idea what they want.
- Fleagle
Yes, i would have thought atleast martin would get in the top 50...
- Bryce Campbell
If the goal of this was to connect to users in the new media, I would've thought having a built in base would have been a plus for him...
- Thomas
Never mind the fact that he actually knows a bit about wine and can speak knowledgeably on the subject. Or the fact he has previous experience not only producing content but the technical side of it.
- Johnny Worthington
Fleagle: That *is* all they want. They have said that before. That's why we're both angry AND confused.
- Eric Geller
Pretty simple then I guess. If that's really all they wanted, then they dropped the ball here.
- Fleagle
Let the Bad PR spread across the wires, then who ever gets the job will really have their work cut out for them.
- Wizetux
They didn't just drop the ball, they let go of it while holding it over a cliff.
- Eric Geller
Looking at their rules for applying, the only thing I can think of at this point is that maybe they thought there would be an issue with the "irrevocable and perpetual right to use your name, likeness, appearance, voice, biographical information and video anywhere in the world, without your further consent" part.
- Thomas
I think they already failed at the Social meida
- Fee501st
Thomas: If you're saying that Murphy Goode had that thought, then I'm confused. It's their rule, why would they disqualify someone if that person applied knowing the rule?
- Eric Geller
How in Bob's name did they decide that?
- Matthew DeVries
Because he's well know (relatively), maybe they thought that clause would be an issue with him. Not saying it's really what caused it, though... http://www.areallygoodejob.com/finepri...
- Thomas
Thomas: I agree with you that Martin could have had that thought, but that's for him to decide. Murphy Goode shouldn't disqualify someone because they assume that their own rule will be a problem. They should let Martin take that into his own hands. (Which he did by applying anyway.)
- Eric Geller
True
- Thomas
Kevin Rose just tweeted about this - even more bad press for the winery...
- Thomas
I think maybe the biggest blunder on their part was of course posting the top 50. It would be different if they just announced the winner I think. That way, even though most probably would've disagreed, you'd have to respect a little bit that it was their decision to make. But not even having Martin in the top 50 is probably going to bite them in the arse in the coming days.
- Fleagle
I definitely agree on that point. If you put something to a vote and then have a top 50, make sure the top vote getters are on the list - even if you don't intend on picking them.
- Thomas
Absolutely right.
- Eric Geller
hmm. Anyone else see a comparison between the Iranian election and this selection process?
- Wizetux
Getting to be the #1 most popular video on the topic should have earned Martin a spot on the top 50 list. I'm not saying it should have gotten Martin the final job, either.
- Robert Scoble
Wizetux: I think they must have the same person who decided on Twitter's Suggested User List doing the judging. Really lame. Yes, it's the same thing as an Iranian Election. Exactly.
- Robert Scoble
LOL Scoble.
- Chris Heath
Agreed Fleagle,
- Kim Landwehr
Kevin Rose: http://friendfeed.com/kevinro...
- Robert Scoble
Murphy-Goode are getting great exposure and all they have to do is give a valid point of view as to why he wasn't chosen. So...?
- Michael Turro
If you look at the digg comments, I'm not sure that's the exposure they were looking for... :)
- Thomas
I wonder if anybody at Murphy-Goode knows they screwed this up - they could spin this as the very reason they NEED a social media consultant.
- Michael Turro
murphy goode = murphy badde
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Need to correct myself, actually they did have to name the top 50 since the top 10 will be pick from the top 50, still doesn't explain why Martin wasn't on it, guess he wasn't what they were looking for.
- Kim Landwehr
this reminds me of that election in iran
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Michael: that would be a great spin, but that would require having someone who understood what was going on and the time for that kind of spin is when a story is just getting going. I would just apologize and say "I don't know how we missed Martin." But then I would have made sure the guy with the #1 YouTube video would be on the list in the first place.
- Robert Scoble
True enough... number one is hard to "miss"
- Michael Turro
if their objective was to find someone best fit for the job, they didn't present the voting facilities in a representatively clear fashion. why bother creating a voting system? it implies that number one would be in the list.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
They should have given the top 50 vote getters an automatic bid and then augmented with 10 or so of their own choices that might not have made the top 50
- Michael Turro
apparently @areallygoodjob uses twitter to broadcast their thoughts. there's no interaction or @ replies. i have a feeling they may be elite-ist snobs.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Elitist snobs? In the wine industry?
- Michael Turro
kinda contrary for them to use social media in the first place, huh? freermor, their twitter says they use the web as their twitter client.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
LOL Leo (purple)
- Kim Landwehr
Check out all the results: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Why did they even stage a fracking "contest" if they've already made their decision about who they want?
- Matthew DeVries
There was a small mistake there wasn't there? did you spot it?
- Mark
what does Vay Ner Chuk have to say about this?
- Chris Pugh
Their fine print states "Murphy-Good retains the right to exclude candidates from the hiring process or terminate the successful candidate for any lawful reason", but if they were going to exclude him after the voting then they should have not even posted or accepted his video in the first place.
- Alan Hoskins
Alan: they should have explained their thinking. Personally I wouldn't have had a final 50. I would have only posted a final three. Then if he didn't make that list it would seem better. But that's after the play quarterbacking. Now they have a bit of a mess on their hands and they have saddled their new social media expert with a mess that won't go away.
- Robert Scoble
I think we're probably seeing a classic case of a traditional business mired in traditional processes trying to leap into the interwebs without actually being willing to embrace the change in attitudes, content, image, and style of outreach that may accompany it. It reminds me of people who want to optimize Web pages, but are unwilling to use the language that searchers use. They want...
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- Brad
I want to learn python. Is there a way I can write a script to query the Purphy-Goode site (e.g., for a site that explains why the #1 vote getter isn't good enough for them?) once a day for something? Twice a day?
- Jason Miller
Neil - Like the Iran election taught us, you don't fake an election by declaring a landslide victory for your guy, You do it like W Bush did in 200, where you work it to an ~50.00000000000001% win, where the other side may not like it, but it's a plausible ending. W stole the election intelligently.
- Matthew DeVries
+2 Matthew.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
http://www.empirereport.org .. Report in there will remind folks that included in the terms of the offer, Murphy-Goode is NOT required to hire ANYBODY - Hello? Perfectly reasonable, on their part? Perfectly reasonable to understand that and take advantage for oneself? WHAT WILL THE REACTION BE ... IF THEY DON'T HIRE ANYONE?
- Bob Kennedy
I know this is late in the game, but we're talking about this with the wine community (and anyone else who is interested) on July 21st at 12 Noon EDT: http://tr.im/wine My impression was never that the votes were more than a cheer at the sidelines from fans and friends, like Lance passing you in the Tour de France. Now every action on the socmed space will need a EULA, a TOS and a long list of diseases and possible side effects, so they should start hiring folks from the pharm industry as soon as possible.
- randulo
As Tara Hunt will put it: They've just lost a great deal of whuffie.
- Jorge
Where's my vote? Note to PR: It is 2009- If you want participation (key word) in your brand, then deliver and reciprocate (key word #2). We all know this.
- E-Advocate Network
Jim Louderback did a great analysis/whatever of this whole situation yesterday http://louderback.com/2009...
- Chris Heath
Re: If 140 is too little, what's the right number? (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Expanding the character limit on twitter would fundamentally ruin the service for me. While we're at it we might as well expand the Haiku and the Sonnet too. In some cases that restriction is the very thing that makes the form interesting."
- Michael Turro
I am sitting next to @garyvee come and ask him a question here:
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Wine Library TV owner/host.
- Robert Scoble
Favorite wine from canada?
- Billy Fung
I am trying to get him to use friendfeed more
- Robert Scoble
What's his honest fucking opinion about friendfeed? :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Hows it feel to be the first internet celeb to cross over :)
- Chris Saad
Best wine under $15?
- Ross Miller
What's his favorite wine gadget?
- Sean O'Brien
how staged was that fallon bit last night? funny none the less
- Brian Page
I don't have any questions... but thank him for keeping it real showing us all that you can make a living out of our passions.
- Evan Travers
Is he going to be on net@night with Amber and Leo? They mentioned the possibility in a recent Podcast.
- Ken Morley
Why does a SM expert feel the need to write books, wouldn't an e-book have been more 3.0?
- Karen Arena
Will there be an audio-book version of CRUSH IT! read by the author?
- Jeff Betts
Can I be on Obsessed? :P
- Andru Edwards
@garyvee ? <lie>never heard of 'em</lie> ... <snark>he kills peoples DNA or something? "Execute your DNA" or something like that?</snark>
- michael silverton
how much will he cry when the Jets are bad again this year?
- Ryan Barnett
shooting a show at an Italian rest. in San Diego tonight, would like to bring a nice red w/ me as a gift for the chef. any suggestions?
- michael sean wright
here is a link to the Conan clip from last night http://tr.im/oXIq
- Manuel Arroyo
Andru: I was just filmed on Obsessed.
- Robert Scoble
What's his favorite beer?
- Michael Nelson
Do you keep a wine journal? If so, what do you use - an online tool, desktop app, or a regular ol' pad and paper?
- Alexander Mimran
Why is the sky blue?
- Michael Turro
Did he have fun interviewing the Nadeau's the other day on WLTV?
- Dana Fosburgh
Hey guys I am here, ready to answer some Q's
- garyvaynerchuk
Dude!
- Dana Fosburgh
Oh, and who's his publicist?
- Karen Arena
What's his favorite beer? - Michael Nelson- Love Lambic
- garyvaynerchuk
Did he have fun interviewing the Nadeau's the other day on WLTV? - Dana Fosburgh - I did so much, really nice men!
- garyvaynerchuk
What does he think of FF?
- Dana Fosburgh
Will there be an audio-book version of CRUSH IT! read by the author? - Jeff Betts -Yes there will be a Audio play and guess who may do it ;)
- garyvaynerchuk
Why did you change your garyvaynerchuk.com feed to partial feed? I hate it.
- Ralph Whitbeck
Hows it feel to be the first internet celeb to cross over :) - Chris Saad
- garyvaynerchuk
Your asking Scoble right? LOL :)
- garyvaynerchuk
Dana: he hasn't used it much.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Oh man - It's not enough I get his PR people emailing me, now he's on FriendFeed too.
- Jim Connolly
Robert: Make him a believer right now! Ha!
- Dana Fosburgh
how staged was that fallon bit last night? funny none the less - Brian Page Full pledge improv...we didnt even talk before it!
- garyvaynerchuk
Will you turn Crush It into a lecture series? (podcast/book tour)
- Jason
how much will he cry when the Jets are bad again this year? - Ryan Barnett- An enormous amount!
- garyvaynerchuk
Joba Chamberlin - bullpen or starter?
- Michael Turro
Have you seen a ratio of passion to revenue generation ability that works well? When is a niche too small to crush it?
- Ryan Barnett
Favorite musician/band?
- Justin Travis
I've never liked wine - what would change my mind?
- PXLated
Favorite musician/band? - Justin Travis Lionel Ritchie
- garyvaynerchuk
I've never liked wine - what would change my mind? - PXLated Probably not but if we tasted a lot of it over 3 weeks I could!
- garyvaynerchuk
Joba Chamberlin - bullpen or starter? - Michael Turro Starter
- garyvaynerchuk
@garyvee - I knew I liked you.
- Michael Turro
lol scoble has not crossed over - he's too unfit to climb over the fence - he's like me - enjoys crashing on the couch in Amsterdam staring at the ceiling :)
- Chris Saad
Gary, you are my hero:)
- Shawn Hickman
How is Misha? And when will you be ready to talk to me? Have fun with Robert.
- Sheryl
You mentioned something about how the NHL missed the boat with Marketing Sid and Ovie. On a much smaller scale, do you think it would be a good idea to maintain buzz during the off season by tweeting the whereabouts of the Stanley Cup all summer? Thoughts? You rock!
- Dana Fosburgh
Is social media actually useful? - http://onlinemediacultist.com/2009...
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abso-friggin-lutely! compared to what?
- Andy Sternberg
Social media are no different from drugs... used responsibly they can widen your perspective, enhance your experience, change your life. Used irresponsibly they can lead you down a path of self absorption, wanton self destruction, and ruin your life.
- Michael Turro
One Vision For The New AOL: Redefine Online Content As Print Magazines Fail - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"This all sounds great - but it hinges on one central assumption: the problem with print is print. Maybe this is true, but it’s far from a certainty - there are other factors at play here - factors that are apparent in both print and online content businesses. Building a business on display revenue - a business you want to sustain - may be a fool’s errand. Without a doubt the Arrington plan will get AOL a few good years - maybe even a decade - maybe even long enough to see Arrington land safely with a big acquisition parachute - but the jury is out on whether taking the magazine model to the web is a smart play. If we assume it is, why wouldn’t established brands like Time Inc just go there? The web is not rocket science - if there was any “there” there I would think that the established media brands like Time Inc - the brands with a century of experience and established relationships with big money advertisers - wouldn’t be sweating bullets over the future of the biz."
- Michael Turro
Re: How To Increase Your Email Whuffie Factor In 5 Easy Steps - http://www.socialtimes.com/2009...
"Nice post - one correction: Tara didn't coin the term Whuffie - she borrowed the concept from Cory Doctorow - it's from his book Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki..."
- Michael Turro
Re: The Death of Display: Thoughts on “Why Advertising Is Failing On The Internet” - http://mturro.com/2009...
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"Thanks, Paul - I appreciate the feedback,"
- Michael Turro
Having problems accessing Google, YouTube, GMail, Blogger? If so, where are you?
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Out in NYC
- Michael Turro
Eastern Kentucky
- Chuck Adams
out for me, Vegas. I am and some of my clients have called with no or really slow access.
- William Kapes
Google Reader working for me... Orange County, CA
- John Denver
Yes. In Central New Jersey.
- John Federico
Everything working fine for me in STL
- Ryan
Yes, trouble accessing google from central Virginia
- jcunwired
SF, CA
- Mekuria Getinet
Fine here - Fraser Valley, BC, Canada :)
- WorldofHiglet
fine in MPLS
- chad calease
back up for me, Las Vegas
- William Kapes
No problems what so ever except for Google News looks like it keep switching from the old to the sort of new look.
- jamesreb
Twitter Crowns Bit.ly As the King of Short Links; Here's What It Means http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Analytics, analytics, analytics. Precisely - or should I say precise.ly (sorry).
- Michael Turro
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Thanks for the nice write up on Bit.ly! btw, about the time this went to live, Nick over at Tweetmeme was showing me stats on Bit.ly doing the official passing over there of TinyURL. All in all, quite a successful Bit.ly day. Rex Bit.ly Community Mgr.
- Rex
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Ari, FF did, invest in ff.im for own urls; now if only I could convince them to put it to full use, as in http://ff.im/2uBFP
- ianf ⌘
URL shortening provides traffic tracking, but the introduction of such concentrated points of failure will come back to haunt us in a few years when the disappearance of a service takes millions of links down with it. I am not sure that the traffic tracking is worth it - I would rather let the web retain its integrity. Even within the current rule of the 140 characters format there are...
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- Jean-Marc Liotier
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Do any of these shorteners produce the same URL for duplicate links being shortened. Actually, WTH hasn't Twitter created it's own so that content would always stay integrated? And links could be cached a la Google search giving the links permanent results and Twitter search some juice. www.twit.tr?
- Gregg Scott
@Gregg, when Twitter sells to Google (or MSFT), it'll be left to the buyer's engineers to figure this sort of thing out. I think people are still confusing Twitter with a technology company... :) (It's really all about social psychology and smart branding)
- Alex Schleber
I've been using bit.ly manually on my corporate twitter posts for quite a while. By entering the API key into Splitweet, it would automatically shorten URLs that way and link it to my account. Is there any chance of posts shorted automatically via twitter.com being linked to your own bit.ly account, for easy tracking? Users could pop their API key into their twitter settings page.
- Caspar Aremi
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Twitter Crowns Bit.ly As The King of Short Links; Here's What It Means - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
"Analytics, analytics, analytics. Precisely - or should I say precise.ly (sorry)."
- Michael Turro
Comment on: Twitter Crowns Bit.ly As The King of Short Links; Here's What It Means - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Analytics, analytics, analytics. Precisely - or should I say precise.ly (sorry).
- Michael Turro
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I don't have time to write a blog post about RSS being dead. I'm too busy writing apps that move RSS from here to there in new ways.
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That was a pretty silly statement by Steve Gillmor. Maybe RSS readers are dead, but RSS is certainly long-term glue--as you are proving.
- Bill Rice
How else was he going to generate the pageviews?
- coldbrew
so RSS is *un*dead? braiiins. :) I'm sure you've encountered the same thing, but I don't think RSS will ever be consumer tech in it's raw (RSS reader) form. It was destined from the beginning to be plumbing.
- mikepk
I used to describe it as the defacto web data API. Perfect? no, but darn useful.
- mikepk
Mike, it's like HTTP.
- Dave Winer
wow, thats great. Would like to know more about it through one of your blog posts
- Sampad Swain
Yeah, electricity is dead as well -- I don't see anywhere!
- Jorge Escobar
You know since Steve was adopting a musical theme, I went looking, and I haven't found it yet. I think it's on the Love You Live album where Mick Jagger responds to some people carrying on in the audience with a dismissive even derisive "Everything okay in the critics section?" He has a picture of the Beatles, they did some great music, but RSS is more like the Stones, rough and dirty. But it rocks.
- Dave Winer
If RSS is dead I must be in heaven - 722 feeds and rising.
- Michael Turro
I can feel the shift, I also just made mention of RSS feeling different now with TWITTER and other real time aggregators on my account @mattaphillips
- Matthew
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