MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Wait, what? - joey

What year did you realize I answer every pointed question with another question? - Micah Wittman

At what point was there no point? - Eric @ CS Techcast from iPhone

MVB, have another drink. - nakachi

ROFL - Alex Scoble

EVERYTHING? *Thinks back to the compliment's Mark has given me* BLAH. YOU SUCK. and NOT in the good way. - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

Please, continue. But know that Tina won. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

It was rigged. - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

Mark earned a LIKE big time for this post. - Micah Wittman

have I been used? - VAL D.

Pea, don't believe him. He's just saying I won to demonstrate the lunacy of social media. In related news: I was way too sleepy to win last night anyways *snicker* - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Tomfoolery. - Shey, Jamaican of FF from iPhone

What, you think Scoble still reads FF? I mean, he will now because his name's here, but otherwise... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

He would if you had mentioned "tech geek." - imabonehead

Dude, no way can I manage your level of snark. - Alex Scoble

Sure you can, Alex. Just think "WWMVBD?" - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

And then what...tear up a street? *rimshot* - Alex Scoble

Sorry, Mark...it just slipped out! - Alex Scoble

I should mention that I will offer training to the right individual. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

I Adore Beer!!! so Poo on you !!!!! - SCS Watching the Sun

Depends on the beer. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

MVB only drinks the Best!!! Bud Light ..... - SCS Watching the Sun

I actually HATE beer. Never liked it. - directeur

ha ha..me too :)) - Bindu Reddy

But... people like the public option. It enjoys _broad public support_. - Andrew C

Depends on which broads answered the poll, Andrew. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

MVB: a lot of people assume Pelosi and Obama share the same priorities and agenda. - MikeAmundsen

If "liberal government health care" is anything like Medicare, they won't be sacrificing their seats. What will sacrifice their seats is if moderate Dems just sit and refuse to do anything. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Mike I know better than that. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

MVB - ha ha. No, I'm serious. The editorial is nuts to leave out that supporting the public option is good _politics_, separate from what one thinks about its merits as policy. - Andrew C

The editorial was written by a right-leaner at a right-leaning publication, Andrew. What'd you expect? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Easy targets. - Andrew C

@MVB: i'm with ya. my snark was aimed toward the article, i guess. - MikeAmundsen

I realize that, Mike. And you do bring up a point that some may not realize: Pelosi and Obama are more often at odds than in agreement. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

@MVB: what knocks me out is how Pelosi and Obama seem to be unable to come to terms. If P is just so head-strong she's willing to ignore the WH agenda, i'd think O and his team would just call her out and get her to tow the line. but i don't see evidence of any of that. IMO, the Hill is just a mess. this has been a year of all talk and no action, from my POV. - MikeAmundsen

On health care reform, I think Pelosi and Obama have been doing decent work, the latter maybe a bit less so. Of the three major Dem leaders, Harry Reid has been the most disappointing. - Andrew C

*groan* Now you tell me. :-P - Jason Huebel from IM

Better hearing it from me than a stranger, Jason... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Ah, I feel a little better. This wasn't a new account activation. I added a second line to an existing account. So I wouldn't have qualified anyway. - Jason Huebel

Yeah, I can't use it, either. But, for the millions of iPhone users moving over.... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Millions? :) - Cristo

Actually, I heard someone mention at Best Buy today that the demand was modest. When I was at the Verizon store, there were half a dozen people there. - Jason Huebel from IM

Obviously, there won't be the fervor that the iPhone generated. One, there's no such thing as a Motorola fanboy. Second, the advertising for Droid wasn't that extensive. - Jason Huebel from IM

I find if humorous that engadget didn't even know Sears sold phones. And I agree with Jason's last post. No fanboys and very little announcing. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Doubling of premiums => lower rates of coverage - Craig Eddy

"Young people may avoid jobs that offer health benefits because they prefer jobs that offer higher pay." ROFL (I had wanted to skip this because Cato does not have a lot of credibility in my books, but I'm glad I stuck with it for the (accidental?) comedy.) - Andrew C

Just because I post it doesn't necessarily mean I agree or disagree with it. Often it is to generate a conversation. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

not only pay more, for many, pay for the first time. anyone who thinks the health care/insurance problems can be solved by _not_ providing care to some group or by _allowing_ some group to opt out doesn't understand the environment. therefore, anyone pitching a fit about the downside of a system where everyone has to participate is either dumb or obstructionist. period. - MikeAmundsen

Deli must of gotten too HOT - CW™

The police said some guy offed himself by cutting his own throat. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

I think the previous two terms definitely did a lot to pave the way. I'm not sure that people would have been as receptive to his message if a) Bush had done a better job or b) someone else had been if office. - pea ♥ fierce as a woozle

That and a bit of charisma and hard work. :-) I think if it were just because of Bush that we would have seen a much closer election. But Bush's presidency made it difficult for the Democrats to lose in 2008; they might even have won with a Corzine-type candidate. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

So why did Bush win? Was it because of Clinton/Gore? Why did Clinton win? Was it because Bush Snr? - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

The pendulum always goes back and forth. People are already tired of Obeezy, hence the GOP's wins last night. - Derrick

McCain could have tried harder not to run like he would do pretty much everything Bush would do for a third term, though. - Andrew C

Johnny: Bush didn't win in 2000, but that's another story altogether. He did win in 2004 because John Kerry was such a horrific candidate (I tend to think that was the plan from DNC: nominate someone unelectable so that they would be less likely to end up with a one-term president); Clinton/Gore won in part because GHWB was not a great campaigner, and had not delivered on the promise of his Reaganite pedigree, plus the country had just spent 12 years under those two administrations. - Bren, Photophobe

Thank McCain. He chose Palin for a reason... - Gus

I always hear this, but IIRC there were lots of other not-George-W-Bush candidates that didn't win. Same with the notion that anyone who's not GWB is entitled to the Nobel Peace Prize... more like everyone who's not GWB who managed to enthrall the electorate and win despite being an alleged terrorist sympathizer. That's a short list. - Lo

I cannot argue Mark's point. Competence is always more attractive than indolence. - Steven Perez

GWB was a part of it, but you can blame the whole damned republicant party for effin the country up. Bush wasn't smart enough to do it on his own. From my perspective, its nice having some intelligence back in the White House after 8 years of across-the-board idiocracy. - jcunwired

Surprise, surprise ... LOL - Allan Besselink

This is always a sport on the verge of collapse. - Maxamad (Amazigh)

This saddens me to no end. Williams will likely go, too. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

MVB, why would Williams go? I think that they've placed themselves well with the new Cosworth deal as all the manufacturers are falling by the wayside. - Allan Besselink

Gut feeling that Frank will pull the plug before he runs out of cash. I've heard rumour to that end from some folks. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

After all that Williams has been through, the highs and lows over the years, I can't imagine it happening now. It's unfortunate that we have watched F1 go through the whole "manufacturer" issue - again. It's not as though it hasn't happened in F1 before, and I am sure it will happen again. Some of the best technical developments in F1 have taken place with much smaller budgets and independent constructors. That will always be the foundation for F1 - and Williams is a part of that mentality. - Allan Besselink

I do hope you're right, Allan. It's heartening to see that Lotus are coming back, as well. Maybe Porsche will consider building motors again? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

What's the over/under on the time it takes for him to apologize for this? - Derek Coward

Ohnoes, in-fighting! - Rene Wirtz