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Robert Scoble
50% of US engineering students drop out - Why? -
I am part of the 50% who don't drop out! - Kevin Mohr
I didn't drop out but here is part of my experience in this post from years ago. It was discouraging to hear the professors talk. Needless to say i don't code. :-) - Antonio Altamirano
Thankfully I'm in the other 50%, but I can see why many would change their major or drop out. I saw it first hand where many 1st and 2nd year Mechanical Engineering students changed their majors to something 'easier'. The most common reason was difficulty with the required advanced Math courses. Calculus being the road block for many. - Jeff P. Henderson
If I were entering college now, I would try to go to Olin. I really like their approach. - Paul Buchheit
nice post, I'm looking for the number of engineers (or per thousand capita ratio) graduating in Greece (or greeks graduating around the world) - George Tziralis
In CA we have two types of public universities. The UC schools require the professors to do research, where as the State University schools do not. I think the State University schools are much better for undergrad tech education as you get much more attention from your professors. - Jeff P. Henderson
The UC Berkeley College of Engineering started the Center For Entrepreneurship and Technology to address some of the issues Dodge talks about. - Ruchira S. Datta
Engineering is hard and requires above-average intelligence. Think about it this way: Statistics tells us that probably 50% of people will be below-average. Wouldn't you want those 50% of the students to drop out before actually becoming an engineer? MIT just doesn't admit that half of the population in the first place, but most schools don't have that luxury. - Gabe
People have a lot of options for (a) careers (b) money (c) power (d) image (e) attracting mates in the US, compared to China/India. Engineers are not valued very highly in the US compared to businesspeople, doctors, and lawyers. - Mitchell Tsai
@Gabe: You would think that all the people that go to study Computer Sciences or seek other Engineering degrees are above the 50% average to begin with. - Amit Morson
somestimes it's a scoail or maturity thing - was for me. I get by. Wished I finished. - Alan Wilensky from Alert Thingy
It's because of the fact that people with higher standards of living pursue less demanding challenges offering similar ROI (I = investment+involvement). That's why there's so many non-US students (especially from lower income countries) in engineering and why they're much less inclined to fail. - Nenad Nikolic from twhirl
Engineering sucks. I think there's a point where any engineering student realizes that even with a degree they're looking at a pretty mediocre salary working in a really boring job. Add this to the difficult coursework and boring courses, well, engineers are good at math. It adds up to being a raw deal. That being said, if you get into engineering at Stanford or UC Berkley, your ROI would look a lot better then mine. I'm sure a large number of engineering students consider dropping out, even after Calculus. - Will Higgins™
All I can do is nod. For a couple of years, not a day when by when I didn't consider jumping ship, for all the reasons commenters here have mentioned: long hours, heavy workload, fickle job market, salary barely comparable with what I could expect with a business or law degree. But here I am, a month away from (finally!) finishing my EE degree, and I couldn't be happier. - Derrick Burns
Continued from above: Basically, I think so many give up because they were looking to get something out of being an engineer: money, prestige, etc. But it's simply too great a commitment on several levels. You really have to pursue engineering because it's something you want to do, something you care about. - Derrick Burns
I dropped out because Chemical Engineering was not what I was expecting. I wanted more Chemistry, less Math. I switched to IT Management and found it much more interesting. Mind you, I'm Canadian. - Shey
I remember having a crisis in my final year of Electrical/Computer Engineering. Dropping out was a non-option, but I did consider completely abandoning 3.5 years of engineering study to switch fields and schools during my senior year. In hindsight, I didn't understand what engineers really did. My vision at the time was closer to industrial or product design than engineering. I had to take it on faith in my first two years that I was on a path to do what I was envisioning. - Kelly Norton
I suspect that more than 50% (even at good schools like GATech, I have friends who have done this) are in the wrong field. Many of my friends went into programming because they enjoyed computers and I've told them they would hate it because they don't like math. They don't listen. :) - mjc
still others go into engineering due to parental expectation, which I find ridiculous, but understandable - mjc
Amit: one of the properties of being in the lower 50% is not knowing that you're in the lower 50%. That means many of the applicants do not know they are unqualified. - Gabe
Extensive aptitude/personality testing could fix this - Aaron Eaton
Engineering is a tough subject. how does that compare to other subjects? - John Cass from twhirl
I actually sit on an advisory board for ASU (arizona state) Poly - I can tell you that what I see is students becoming disillusioned by all the stuff they have to learn before they can go out and create something "cool". The challenge is keeping them engaged through the pre-reqs/early coursework. BTW - IMHO the problem with "drop out and learn X" is that they've intentionally skipped the fundamentals that make good engineers. Just because you can code doesn't mean you can engineer... two different things. - Brian Roy
Is Computer Science part of engineering? Because it didn't take much training in Computer Science for me to start doing cool stuff. I wrote my first game and posted it onto the internet my freshman year (Core Wars). By my Junior year, I had designed a programming language and integrated in it into a MUD. Pengtoh had contributed to Linux by his sophomore year. On the other hand, I always flunked electrical engineering classes, and couldn't stomach math past linear algebra. - Piaw Na
I switch from Engineering to a Computer Science degree. Apart from the fact that I wanted to program, there were two reasons. 1) The load was very high (it was close to 40 contact hours/week in first year). 2) The maths was hard - I'm ok at math, but combined with the high load I found I struggled when I wasn't too interested in it. - Nick Lothian
"the US should staple a Green Card to every foreign student's engineering diploma and encourage them to stay in the USA." - Clare Dibble
Same as Nick here. Dropped out due to difficulty and lack of passion for the field. Went back later to finish a BS in Computer Information Systems. - Bill Sanders
I wonder what percentage of medical school students drop out. Engineering is a hard discipline, if you want to be a web dev or a study IT or "new media" instead. Making engineering "softer" because today's students don't like to work hard and expect results instantly will just create generations of mediocre engineers and will not make the US more of an engineering power. - Kevin Goldsmith from twhirl
engineers are boring and dry, pay is low, classes are full of non-social ppl. (and almost no girls). Why not study finance, or something, girls and pay is much better. - imran
Engineering is fun! The big thing is that school's curriculums are frequently irrelevant. For instance, a lot of CS majors require irrelevant Math or Physics not because it's a requirement to do good software (they aren't), but because those classes serve as weeders. The result is, for instance, we get lots of CS majors who can't communicate or string a sentence together. If we rearranged the CS major so that we didn't impose a stupid requirement, we'd get a bigger diversity of candidates and less dropout. - Piaw Na
Engineering is the best!!!! and for those who says it sucks or that the pay is not good (or that we are boring and dry), its probably because you are in that 50% of retards that dropped out of it. No other profession gets paid as much as an engineer right after graduation, and there is usually more demand for engineers than for anything else. I just think people are too lazy to even try anymore. I dont know why, even graduate school is fun in engineering. Aerospace is the best!!!!! - Mike hawk
life in a conceptual box is the result .. content with that, you will stay with it .. not content, universes open up - Gregory Lent
life in a conceptual box? do you even know what you are saying? universes open up when you quit engineering? If only you were to see the world through the eyes of en engineer, we see everything from several different perspectives, not just that of people like you. If anything, engineering has really opened up the world for me as it really is. Stop making those type of remarks. Instead get back to engineering school so you can see what it feels like. - Mike hawk
I think I know the boxes Gregory is talking about from some of his other comments. Whether you've gone to engineering school is orthogonal to whether you can get outside of them. So it's pretty much irrelevant to this thread. - Ruchira S. Datta
At least, those 50% tried. - Ashish
I bet you the pre-med numbers are similar, but I'm not sure universities necessarily track undergrads who aspire to go to med school. In general, how many freshmen actually stick with the major they pick when they start college? - Victor Ganata
Paul Buchheit
What is one place in the world you think everyone MUST visit? -
The bathroom. - DGentry
socotra - imran
Himalayas..(INDIA). - dineshviswanath
29°58′45.03″N 31°08′03.69″E - kartik vaithyanathan
Grand Canyon! - Bo Stern
Their nearest ocean. - Mike Nencetti
Their local library. - Spidra Webster
New Zealand (they have some really good libraries!) - Big Joe Silenced
New Zealand, but if 7 billion tourists descended then did it wouldn't be worth visiting. - Kevin Fox
Prague. - Jandy
hmm if we combine some of these answers we have the bathroom of a library in New Zealand that is near the ocean.... - Mike Nencetti
LOL @ Denton - Anika
+1 Mike - AJ Batac
Hawai'i - Morgan
Phuket, Thailand - I've been to Bali, Hawaii, and some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, but Phuket beats them all. Be sure to take the boat tours. - Jesse Stay
South Africa - The Fat Oracle
Yellowstone/Grand Teton. - andrei_c
Mike: As I remember, the bathroom in Auckland's public library was just fine, but maybe not worth a special visit. I'm reluctant to identify anything--seven billion people would wreck southeast Alaska or Bora Bora, which might otherwise be good choices. - walt crawford
Disneyland - Rodfather
I say Hawai'i because I want the economy there to be stronger. I plan to retire there someday and need it to be pimped out by the time I'm ready. So go there. Spend lots of money. Thank you. - Morgan - Louis Gray
The Librarians in Auckland probably use Friendfeed. - Mike Nencetti
Somewhere they feel loved - RAPatton from iPhone
Do the librarians in NZ use friendfeed in the bathroom to post discussions for their buddies in the himalayas? - mjc from iPhone
good one RAP thats why I am here........... - VALZONE#SCREWED
Amoeba Music? - Andrew C (✔)
Right now? The bathroom! UH Oh Gotta GO!!! ~ aaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - sofarsoShawn
Bora Bora is absolutely stunning, but also really expensive. Also, it's really a disconnect hearing Polynesian people speaking French. - Kevin Fox
Portugal, specially São Miguel, Azores - - ovigia
Railey Beach, Thailand - Alistair (alpinefolk)
Trantor - Pierre Lindenbaum
pretty much EVERYWHERE in New Zealand is close to the ocean. - Big Joe Silenced
Rome - Amy
Whistler BC Canada. Then again, Tourism Whistler is my employer so I'm paid to say that but I do also believe it personally. - Andrew Smith
Vladivostok - gmarketer
The Louvre. - Rochelle
Jerusalem. - Robert Scoble
Both Steve Wozniak and Larry Page (and Larry's wife) told me that New Zealand were their favorite places to visit, though. - Robert Scoble
Stormhold - Charles Ying
One might want to see the polar ice caps while one can. I guess a glance at the thermafrost before it gets thawed would be logical, and all the coastal areas and islands before they are submerged. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
The moon. - imabonehead
meat packing industry =) - Harsh SIngh
Personally my favorite place to visit was the USS Nimitz while it was in operation. That beats everywhere else I've been. San Quentin is a place I'd love everyone to visit but it certainly wasn't fun. - Robert Scoble
Auschwitz - Scoble, Alex Scoble
While we're at it, every tax payer should visit a sewage treatment plant too. - Robert Scoble
The Alamo, we must never forget the Alamo. - sofarsoShawn
went to the Alamo in early 2004 while i was in San Antonio. there was no line or anything. of course, it was February at the time. - Big Joe Silenced
The hood. Wherever the nearest lower class neighborhood is. The place where there is nothing but liquor stores, gun stores, and Family Dollar. People would appreciate things more if they realized just how much they have. The world might be a better place. Then again...maybe not. - Rahsheen
Somewhere to get a good view of the Northern (or Southern) Lights - Ian May
Masada and the Dead Sea. - Michael R. Bernstein
istanbul - Turkey - Mustafa Alpay ☮
New York City - Henny Susilawati from email
Cherry Blossom Land, Belleville, NJ...during the 3rd week of April. - April Russo (FForever!)
SuezanneC, don't you think everyone travelling to see the polar icecaps would hasten their demise? - Ruchira S. Datta
If you like mountains and chocolate as much as I do, Bariloche, Argentina. Horseback ride through the Patagonia - elizabeth
Sao Paulo, go to the same dumpy open-air restaurant four nights in a row. Talk to everyone who comes up. It will broaden your horizons. Brazilians are genuinely interested in people, especially people who are different from them. In the U.S., we are in too much of a rush. Too inward facing. Second place to go: the old markets of Karachi. Accept tea from the shopkeepers - then others will approach. - A Mitchell
Google This! | -
Google This! |
"Google appears to be gaining ground by making knockoffs of Microsoft products and giving them away. [...] The sad truth is that Google and Microsoft care less about making cool products than they do about hurting each other. Their fighting has little to do with helping customers and a lot to do with helping themselves [...] At the end of the day, they both seem like overgrown nerdy schoolboys fighting over each other's toys." - Simon from Bookmarklet
"I'm afraid we may be headed toward a world where some devices will be free or really cheap, but when you use them you'll be bombarded by ads." Well of course. Because Google does that all the time in their existing products. ??? - Daniel Dulitz
Yeah, I think Dan Lyons was off on this article. Neither Chrome nor Android bombard you with ads, and they're open-source, so if Google tried to do this, someone would fork the project(s). - Matt Cutts
Why is it journalists have such a hard time seeing the difference between "Google supporting development of free and open systems like Android and ChromeOS" and "Google owning your computer just like Microsoft, but they want your eyeballs instead of your cash"? The latter is precisely the tack taken by this article, and it's obviously and patently false. Do these guys just not... more... - Joel Webber
Yeah, that's really annoying. I think reporters often start with the story and then just grab "facts" to support it instead of working the other way around. Google owning your computer makes for a much better story I guess. - Paul Buchheit
Lucky for consumers, both companies care *a lot* about making great products and competition really serves to increase the quality of offerings from both. Consumers would worry if the two top search engines and office product makers didn't compete for some reason. Thank goodness there is competition in editorial commentary. - no name from Android
For the most part, what Google is doing is simply commoditizing their complements, as well as something else which we don't have a good phrase for, which is to ensure that those commoditized complements ratchet up to ever higher levels of competition, value, and *use*. Microsoft hasn't quite learned how to play this game yet, though they do get plain ol' commoditization of complements as well as de-commoditization (ie. 'Embrace and Extend'), but de-commoditization is much harder to pull off now. - Michael R. Bernstein
both are great at creating wealth for stockholder, rest is small detail - imran
Imran, Microsoft's (traditional) approach has been to commoditize complements in order to suck the profit margins out of adjacent markets (this ensured that the only healthy margins were in markets they dominated), even at the cost of stagnation. Google's approach (generally) leads to growth of the overall market and more competition. That's not a small detail. - Michael R. Bernstein
Robert Scoble
The house is smelling good! Turkey is almost ready. Who's coming over for a friendfeed? Happy Thanksgiving FriendFeeders!
Happy Thanksgiving - Aly
i'm coming from Turkey. any problem Rob ? :))) - Nucro
There will be leftovers for days! Come on over! :-) - Robert Scoble
i would come over if i was closer :) - Allen Stern
Happy Thanksgiving Friendfeeders,and Scoble.Happy Religious Festival for The Islams also...In Turkish it's 'Kurban Bayramı', in Arabic; Eid al Adha...Thank You... - Dedegi
Happy Thanksgiving... - Nir Ben Yona
Happy Thanksgiving. - Ashish
Same here Allen, Happy Thanksgiving - Wayne Sutton
Happy Thanksgiving!!! WHOOOOO SCOBLE!!!! - sofarsoShawn
Happy Thanksgiving Robert! - Mitchell Tsai
Happy Thanksgiving guys - Jayavasanthan J
Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Eid - imran
yeah sure, happy back to you - JSLeFanu
Paul Buchheit
Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head -
Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head
Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head
"If you have some good character witnesses, and have served in the military, then for you, shooting someone in the head at point blank with the intent to kill was probably just a flash in the pan. He probably just had a case of the Mondays, the poor guy. And here we are shipping him off to jail for three whole months. All he did was point a lethal weapon at someone's head and pull the trigger--it was a bad day!" - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
This is such a crazy story. - John (bird whisperer)
Unbelievable. That's as bad as those judges who let guys off for shooting their wives. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Ridiculous. - rønin
Keep in mind that he didn't actually kill the person. It was stuck in the helmet but missed the skull. I still think he deserves jail time, but it shouldn't be a life sentence either. - Yu-kai Chou
Next time I feel like shooting someone in the head I'll hand them a bike helmet first then. - rønin
it almost begs someone with military past to put lethal weapon to head of JUDGE in front of crowd in day time - and then later lets see for how many days/months/years/centuries they will throw man into jail... mind you - push on that bloody trigger - A. T.
WTF? Seriously? Only in America. - James Myatt
long live american justice system - imran
April Buchheit
Alright, FriendFeeders, which one should I go with?
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The one on the left. :-) - Mary B: #TeamMonique
The first one - Dan Hsiao
Right. - τorƍue
The one on the right caught my eye first than the one on the left because of the pictures. The text on the left catches my eye more than the one on the right. - imabonehead
I love the photos on the second one best!! I like both designs, but like the first design a little better. - Rachel Lea Fox
The one on the left with the top pic of the right swapped for the first pic. Not that I enjoy being difficult or anything. Is this Tinyprints? - Heather Solos
loving #1 left - Barbara R. S.
Why don't you test the pages with google website optimizer? - Serbay Arda Ayzit
Can't go wrong with either of those. First one is better. - Ashish
First one. - David Schmidt
The one on the right. The lighting is much warmer. The lighting on the left is too cold. The first photo on the left looks foreboding. - Tracy
Left. Right feels too much like some sort of promotional piece. - Kevin Fox
I like the one on the left better, but the first picture could be replaced with the photo from the bottom left on the right version and it should say 2009 somewhere. - Clare Dibble
The left, but I agree with Clare's idea of switching those pictures. - Lola Bean (Penguin)
I like the big picture on the right the best; the kids look great and they're facing the reader. And the pop of green brightens the card. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
If it's a personal card, go with the one on the left. If it's for professional/business acquaintances, go with the one on the right. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
I would say the left one. - Mitch
Another vote for the left. - Yolanda
LEFT :) - Susan Beebe
Right but swap the Peace, Love, Joy with the one from the Left. Makes it more playful and less...corporate? - EricaJoy
The one on the right. - Paolo Ferrandi from iPod
The one on the right :) - AJ Batac from iPod
the one on the right ^^ - sh3
right - viki saigal
I like the one on the left better. (Glad we could help you decide.) - Bruce Lewis
I'm on Team Right - Jesse Stay
Left. - Alix May
+1 for Left - Atul Arora
Easy -- on the Right. Bigger pictures over bigger fonts on a holiday card every time. They're not for reading, they're for looking at! - Eric Borisch
I would like to put in a write-in candidate for a card with a picture of the whole family - Paul, April, Camilla, and Thomas. I like seeing the adults too! - Robert Felty
The one on the right. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The one on the right - Pete Gilbert
left - Sinem Co
wrong left - imran
Left. and switch the pics like everyone else said. - Rahsheen
The one on the right but switch the green for the brown from the one on the left. - Adewale Oshineye
I'll pick the second one! - Milton Ramirez
I like the one on the right more. - Josh Haley
I like the photos on the right, but I like the design on the left. - Karen Padham Taylor
Thanks for your help, everyone!! :) I think I'm going to go with the design on the left, but replacing the picture on the left panel with the picture in the middle panel and putting the picture from the bottom left panel of the design on the right in the middle panel of the design on the left. (Am I confusing you yet?) I'm also going to make some changes on the font, as well. - April Buchheit
They both look good, but with the change you decided on it'll work very nicely. - James Stratford
Rob: Getting a picture of the whole family has proven to be a difficult task for the Buchheit family. Obtaining collective cooperation from all members (both children and adults) is a daunting endeavor. - April Buchheit
Heather: Yes, this is from Tinyprints. :) - April Buchheit
April - tell Paul I'm expecting the full family for 2010. - Robert Felty
Rob: Aye, aye, sir! :) - April Buchheit
April, I work @TinyPrints so won't be much help deciding:) But, you know we're local in Mountain View right? Happy to set you (or anyone else) up with our best discount if you're interested. Feel free to reach out. I'll need to DM the code. - Rick Bucich
April, it sounds like it'll turn out cute :) We have four kids and can't get them all to look at the camera either. I went with a single shot of each to save my sanity. - Heather Solos
Thomas Hawk
Is Ripping Off Someone’s Idea a Copyright Violation? Where Do You Stand on Idea Appropriation? -
@thomashwk in THIS industry, no company can exist without stolen ideas. - Prolific Programmer from IM
I took a photo of a sunset at the Sutro Baths on November 8th. There were dozens of other photographers there. Am I going to sue them for taking my idea of being at that spot to photograph the sunset? Ideas are not subject to copyright. Everybody is inspired by the work of others, and imitates that work to a greater or lesser degree. - Jeremy Brooks
@jeremybrooks you could try to sue - Prolific Programmer from IM
I believe everyone above is correct. You can not copyright an idea. You can patent a process or design, but neither of those apply here. 'Ripoffs' of ideas happen legally every day. Wierd Al, does it all of the time, while i understand that he gets permission or even collaborates with most of the artists he parodies, I don't believe he actually has to get their permission to parrody them. - Jeff P. Henderson
To me this just seems one step removed from what Kutiman's been doing ( except they're using actors to "re-enact" each clip/scene. I really can't convince myself there's anything wrong with it. - Ken Sheppardson
Not a violation, unless 9th district over-rules it - imran
Kol Tregaskes
The Great Google Wave invite thread. Anyone who wants an invite post your Gmail address here and anyone who has invites available please use to invite the people on this list. There are also a bunch of requests in the Invites group here:
I have a few but holding them for a few people who have already asked me. I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com btw. A pain I know but if you can, could you update your comment when you have an account or just delete your comment. Ta! :-) EDIT: Try this site for invites: - Kol Tregaskes
ysabelegaspi at gmail dot com. thanks! - Ema Nymton
Kol, my man...I love you, you do know that right? :) - Jesper Jazzper Isaksson
I would like to have one => at gmail dot com <= :) thank you - GG...
crap, wrong email...:) - Jesper Jazzper Isaksson
havaslash att gmail dott com thanks :) - Jay if you have a spare :) - Bryce Roney thank you, :) - chaz2b
lameei (at) gmail (dot) com - Mostafa Lameei
fanning[dot]steve(at)gmail[dot]com - DJ Stevie Steve :) - Willis Wee
manantsoa.david(at)gmail(dot)com - Thanx - Manantsoa
nikicostantini[at] :) - Niki Costantini Thank you! - Tanya S
Hehe, Jesper. :-) - Kol Tregaskes Please! ;) - Tibor Holoda Pretty please with a cherry on top :) - Dan Hersam
can i haz en invyte? - .LAG liked that
Please pretty please - wishfully.thinking [at] gmail [dot] com - Harini Saladi - Лёва
could you please send me an invite as well please email - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
If anyone has one to share - martin (dot) starfighterpilot (at) :-) - Martin Bryant thanks - fwed
slayerboy [AT] gmail [DOT} com - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ - Paul
krz9000[@) i can haz? - Chris Hofmann
yok2504 [at] - Sinan İŞLER
mdoeff at gmail dot com - Mike Doeff
sadoyle AT gmail DOT com if anyone has a spare invite I would be thrilled. - Simon Doyle from BuddyFeed
rubin dot sfadj at gmail dot com - Rubin Sfadj
grant.bierman at gmail dot com - Grant Bierman
how do we track who got invited & who didnt? - Roshan Ramachandran
magicofpi at gmail dot com for me, please! - Ryan - @magicofpi - Kim Landwehr
Roshan, maybe those who got invited could put an X before their email... or delete their comment altogether. - Ryan - @magicofpi
amnesiak1978 [at] - Andrea | amnesiak1978 from iPhone
Ryan, yep I've suggested something like that in the first comment above. - Kol Tregaskes - thanks in advance. :) - Brad Butner
Ah, yeah, I might've missed that... at least we're on the same page. :) - Ryan - @magicofpi
flaimo [@] - flaimo
i guess i am superiphi at gmail - Iphigenie
marco.marengo [at] - gib
aucimen(at) (thank youu) - Alper Umut Çimen Thx - HN from iPhone
ceterelealtdileyt[at]gmail(dot)com --Thank you already now - Yunus YAMANER (CITRIL) - thanks - Matt G :) - Nicola Quinn from Nambu
mahendrap[at] - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
somebody who has it please send a message to me too thanks. - ۳۰ مرغ Loves Y'ALLLLL if anyone has any free! - Pete Gilbert , thanks for your invite ! - nancy kao - Saeed Ashour
and hey, if you haven't already, please sign up here: Better to do it now than later... can't hurt :) - Adam Lasnik - Chris Nixon - Zekai KIRAN - Thomas Power
cristian {DOT} vidmar {AT} gmail {DOT} com - thanks in advance! - Cristian Vidmar please .thx - Selcuk Ergin
scabrcom at gmail dot com - Igor Poltavskiy - Geert CONARD
Are people on this list getting invites or at least been told they have an invite on the way? You might have to be patient, it could take a long time for one to come through. - Kol Tregaskes
Adam, yep agree. Maybe because I did that (month ago though) helped me get mine through from Vijay so quickly! - Kol Tregaskes - Junal Rahman - David Young
gtpinfobox[at]gmail[dot]com... plzzz, can i hav one invite *makes puppy face* - Gtp19
matthias.debus [at] gmail [dot] com - Thanks! - Matthias Debus
pls send me an invite on dharmubaba[at}gmail{dot]com - Dharmesh
Have you got a Google Wave invite? Please send me one! :) - Selcuk Ergin
If you're happy and you know it clap your hands (and please send me a Wave Invite) - ZacRabah
docdemon at - Dennis Jernberg
keyboardbreaker at - Iain Baker hey who invites me ? - Sercan
mfelat at gmail dot com - mesut felat
dajdavies at - Andy Davies
bahaid at - Kilian i'd love an invite! - Patrik Arwengrim - Stian Torgersen
i'm waiting for months please an #invite m.furkantunali [\at/] - Furkan Tunalı - Matteo Campofiorito
yunust at gmail please.. thanks.. - Yunus Tunak
could you send invitation to koraym /@/ gmail .com address please ? =) Thank You! - siniradam
veovix [at] gmail [dot] com - I'll be your best friend!! :) - veo
jmatalon - Jacque
paulasimoes [at] gmail [dot] com - paula simoes ☃ - qibo
a7med.magdy[at]gmail[DOT]com - Ahmed Magdy - great idea Kol, fingers crossed -/ - Chris Loft - Pamir Gündüz please invite me - Angelo Mariano :D - Andrea.i.Norrköping
Thanks and i want one ,my mail is:[at] - 黑莓极至
ibgeronimo[at]gmail[dot]com - jan geronimo
soulruins[at]gmail[dot]com THX!!! - Philip from BuddyFeed
cristianconti -at- - Cristian Conti - Thank you! - Hendrik Neumann
piotto [@] thank you a lot!! - Matte - cheers muchly! - Wilka Hudson
newelvin [at] - Thank you! - Elvin
This isn't working...over in the UK we have decided it's all a late April Fool's joke. - Pete Gilbert please ;-) - Alistair (alpinefolk)
I want one. (.==@, @==^) siva@rs^ - siva s - یاسر
@Kol, the invitation process seems to be based on nominations. For example, everytime someone nominates/invites you, you get bumped up the queue for an account until you're at the top and you get sent an invite by the team - Ema Nymton
mdfidler[@] Thanks Kol! - Michael Fidler
Ysabel, ah I see, So lots of people must have nominated me. Darn, so a few users I have nominated could be waiting a looooong time. :-( - Kol Tregaskes
kicha1978{@} Thx :) - Krishnamoorthy
Please nominate me? :) - Pete Gilbert - gracias! - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
mdduru > gmail dot com - thanks in advance. - Durukan Duru
anil(at) - Anıl Eren
cjj1019 [at] thanks - telefan
itslebigz_at_g mail com thank you!! - Le Big Z please please and thank you - Richard Thomson
vince.degeorge AT - Thank you! - Vince DeGeorge please - Richard Thomson - Glenn Slaven
need invite:) - Selcuk Ergin
rfavini[at]gmail[dot]com, thanks in advance :D - Roberto - candy - I need an invite too, tanx - Saghee - thanks! :D - Oskar NRK - rønin from iPhone
tosh54 at Thanks! - Peter Hoffmann
if that voting system is right I'm very annoyed. I asked for an invite months ago, now all the numpties are all over it I'm not going to get a look in. It's like I've been sat at the front of a shop queue and everyone's just walking right past me into the shop. I am British but I detest both queuing and waiting, so this is pretty tough going - Toby Graham
koukopoulos at - Kostantinos Koukopoulos pretty please? - MLx
Oooo yes please - Jon
Pretty please with sugar on top? - April May
i'd like an invite if anyone has one to spar. i'm wardseward(you know the rest). thanks! - Ward Seward
any generous soul: THANKS!!! - Arnaud Fischer thanks mate!! - Deniz Gürbüz :D - James Rishabh Mishra
Can I play too, please? nzbuu1 [at] - James Myatt
alessandro.minin gmail and all the other stuff - scriptabanane - thanks ! - Greg Smith
vinod1980 at gmail dot com please send me one. - vinod
please send me inv. : - Mustafa Y. Halici
Not yet. Im still waiting. - Robert from email
same :( - Jay
bobonline at - Bob Wilson
Like most other people, yesterday I wasn't aware of that I «needed» a Google Wave invitation this badly...but now I am!!! quackofdawn at gmail dot com - noname
Pleaaaase.... thx - HN from iPhone thanks ! - mert
.... danielsoar at - Dnl
Please invite me: marklayton at - Mark Layton thanks! - Marco <radel>
alideemir(@) - Ali Demirci
I would love an invite. barryowens(@) - Barry Owens from iPhone
Invite tehKenny, plz parkingstones(@) - tehKenny
jokin.lacalle (at) - Jokin Lacalle
Anyone have an invite to share? whumesatgmaildotcom Thanks. - Friar Will
If there's any left: christopher.owen at - Christopher Owen
Memememememe!!! hedwyg at gmail dot com - Ordinarybug Heather
I'd really love one - Wave is the coolest! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
invite please. - zlatko zivlak
link2future (@) - Sahandram
jordanpw at gmail - Patrick Jordan - yakoo Thanks! Arigato!! - Shoichi from iPhone
andrea DOT romoli AT gmail DOT com - Andrea Romoli - farzaam thanks, although probably too late. - Comics Forge - Tony Miller
butriga at gmail dot com - Angelo - TheNorba
If you have any left, please can I have one? ( Thanks. - Tyson Key
would love an invite - - Martin Liechti
I am - Mike Nayyar from iPhone - Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
me too? - Christopher Aloi
jagrap at - RAPatton - Jordan Brock
i don't think there is anymore left but theaob[@] - Onur Baykal
Let's try this too: ilmondodieta (at) gmail (.) com - Eta from FreshFeed
Beau at liening . us - Beau Liening from iPhone and i promise to send a wave of 100,901 twitter followers to your doorstep each of whom will have averaged 1 tweet in their existence - this might not get me an invite but surely it will get some notice - must have that something special - my google wave invite special sauce ingredient is twitter juice PS Not to be construed as an offer, not valid in any of the 53 US states, do not try this at home, caution: contents are hot. - Ross Button
Purdy Please! (expecting [dot] rain) - Jeremy Kunz - Marg Uerite if you please, will give back to this list - Andrew Leahey
Please, and thanks in advance.. - Jeannette Høvring
please send me one...thanks! - Terry Johnson
jasonw22 at gmail - Jason Wehmhoener
ahrob19[at] ... here is to dreaming of a wave!! - Amani
Thanks zsafwan at gmail dot com - zsafwan 
Thanks pengwen [dot] not [dot] penguin [at] gmail [dot] com - Parvez Halim
If there's any left! kahlanmnel at gmail dot com - Hookuh Tinypants thank you in advance! - Marco Jardim - Osman Erdoğan
semihmasat ( at ) - Semih Masat™ Thanks :D - RK
ageor7 at gmail dot com, thanks :) - Alexandros Georgiadis
juanpg at gmail dot com, thanks as well! - Juan Pablo González
citro06 at, thanks! - Citronella still FFing
batduccio at gmail dot com - thanks - batduccio
braden.douglass [at] gmail [dot] com - Braden Douglass Thanks!! Wave is revolution! - Charbax
kreg.steppe (at) gmail dot com .. Please? - Kreg Steppe
jianyuan [at] gmail - thank you! - Jyuan
francois dot granger at gmail dot com - François Granger
Anyone have already a wave invite?. I'm a developers anxious to take a look at wave. jmiguel.rodriguez at . Thank you very much in advanced! - jmiguel rodriguez
trentono gmail com...thanks in advance, mysterious stranger... - Trent Olson
Russellreno at - Russellreno - Karma will bless you abundantly. Thanks! - eEditor
slowfinger at, please. - Slow Have a few invites, also, please add me as contact - Bob Morris (polizeros)
Hey bob morris, can you invite me ? tagyboy at gmail dot com ! - fwed
apleyden (at) - Andrew Leyden
myturkey AltGr + Q - Varol AKSOY
@Bob Morris please! (above) - Slow
what a long list! steve at sharpers dot com please! - Steve
this list seems hopeless, but I'm - Laura Norvig
WTB: Google wave invites, will trade for 200 gmail invites :) - Man Of Chat
manielse[at]gmail[dot]com thanks! - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Plz. Invite me on Google Wave. Am i on a HIGH? - ThinkEzy; I still don't know what to think about it, but I really want to test it out. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Welcome an invite at Thanks. - Jack Stone
Hey! sappho at gmail, thanks in advance to anyone who send it out. - Priscila Zanuzzo - Vincent X Thanks for the thread Kol! - Tamara, #TeamMarina - prz? :) - Paul Whitaker
lol at this point i gotta think that by the time an invite makes it this far down the list i may already be at the top of the official invite list but doesn't hurt to try right? marco [dot] nunez @ gmail - thanks! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'm also trying. As Marco said, it doesn't hurt :) iamclem at gmail. thanks! - Clément Simon
Hello, I would love to have a google wave invite too. thanks! - ilteris
hell, why not: - Jamie Mack
Please!! jrblazespam at gmail dot com - Jeff
Oops! You said gmail address: marybaumcreative (at) gmail. Although I run through gmail servers too. - Mary B: #TeamMonique from email
mrtbzkrt at thanks - Aquacultural
alan.le at - Alan Le
ibrahimuzun /// - İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
robynahawk - you know the rest! ;-b this is me - always late to the party! - Robyn Hawk
Here I am super duper late. sound [dot] of [dot] dust [at] gmail [dot] com. I know the email is a pain. - Faraz Mullick
Looking for wave invite to use in Vegan centered site hook a vegge brother up, jtwilkins *AT* gmail *DOT* com - Josh Wilkins
gah, I'm so late but I need one. kmward (at) gmail (dot) com - Kate
I'm at jwilliams [at] live [dot] com but with the length of this thread I'm not holding my breath. Lol - Jason Williams from iPhone - Jacopo Paoletti please? C-: - Lucius Payne
gattoo at gmail dot com - ThinkEzy much appreciated - Brian thanks.... - Amit Nangare - Demircan Celebi
onur[et] - onurc
adolfo at nerdstlaker .com please - adolfo foronda
barijaona ... gmail ... com - Barijaona Ramaholimihaso
mike.hellers at thanks. - Mike Hellers
Wow, with all the people here, the chances of getting one is slim. Still, there's no hurt in trying... phoenix713[at]gmail[dot]com - Eduardo Ruiz - DRAT! I'm last in line! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
niguel[dot]valley@gmail[dot]com - Valley
LOL, One could build a good spam email list from this post!!!! - Brian
stan.thieman at - Rodzilla
can you send me invite for google wave to i.igors (at) gmail (dot) com - Igor Krstev
Looking for one myself at alexscrivener (at) gmail (dot) com - Alex Scrivener - Ivan Campos
erdem.g ⓐ gmail - Erdëm GULTEKIN - oldiesbutuglies
looking for an invite - - Ritu
axin.on [att] googlemail [dott] com - Achim Brueck
Wow, thanks in advance! - Ryan Christensen
I would love an invite: xiatwo[at] - Dongzhi Thanks! - Chris - Thomas Hawk
Thank you very much! - Leslie Carothers
wow.... even Thomas Hawk doesn't have an invite yet or atleast seems like it... I feel better now :) - Amit Nangare
I would definitely appreciate an invite, if you have one to spare... - Bette Cooper - Please and thank you!!! - Erica Toelle
I'd love one but I can't even get subscribers on here so I anticipate failure. :-( - Simon Curran - Thanks everyone, really looking forward to trying google wave. - Silver Hage
To everyone thanks from PR, waiting for the wave - Juan R Perez
/me is tired to see this post at the top of his home :) - fwed
giving out my invites -> - andy brudtkuhl
I'd love an invite. I was sort of expecting to get one from Google, as I have been in all of their other betas, but to no avail :( - Carlton Prest
jamesrhull {at} gmail - James Hull
prguy85 at gmail - Manuel Mas
If anyone has a Google Wave invite to share I would like one. ampptt (at) gmail - Robert Anderson
I so want one... drusoicy <at> - Andru Edwards
I'd like one, too. ha3rvey at gmail - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
sd11208 at gmail thanks. - Stalyn☂
d.patti (at) thanks! - Davide Patti
mithandir at gmail dot com - Mithandir
Pretty please. richardlusk at gmail - Richard
like it,allwell at gmail dot com - coze
Plesae send an invite! - Jonna Watson
damn, the pretty please guy will get one for sure, that steve guy is likely last on the list - but we all will get one if that scobilizer guy notices that we are all here and asking and so cul cuz we are all on friendfeed - maybe if we twitter too it might help - hello google !!!! - Ross Button
how do we know which ones are sent? I'm just doing my own thread. - Vezquex
teekotkl [at] thank's! - Teeko
Yes please.... cherkoff at gmail ;-) - James Cherkoff - Joe Azzara
all good now - metalerik thanks! - Chris Reichow thanks in advance! - James Campbell from iPhone
I've been in wave for a while, I don't need any more invites, thanks. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
tateblaze @ gmail dot com - Tate
christophe.ceccon AT thanks a lot! - Christophe Ceccon
who have wave invite ? - Sinan İŞLER
right everbody write self mail but who have ?! :D come on google !!!!!! see the ff :D - Sinan İŞLER x - Joe Dawson
If someone can send an invite to I'd be much obliged. I'd really love to check out Wave. - Aram Zucker-Scharff
plzzz - Saeed Ashour
ggelardi at gmail dot com, thanks in advance - esorciccio a.d.
Thanks Krazy! john dot mcgeehan at gmail dot com - John McGeehan Thank you - Kaspar Minosiants
timepilot68 at gmail dot com, thx!! - timepilot .. Thanks! - Yourmagz
Shmoetheho [at] gmail dot com -- much appreciated! Will reciprocate. - Shmoe from iPhone
If anybody still has one, I'd be happy to have one if you wouldn't mind. zach @ - Zach Flauaus
cargun [at] gmail dot com, please wave me... - Cem ARGUN
thattalldude [at] gmail [dot] com - Shawn Kirsch
sd11208 at gmail dot come - Stalyn☂ - Marco
brnwatkins at gmail dot com - Brian Watkins
vizpix at g mail dot com TIA! - daveeza
nixnet [at] gmail [dot] com - Paul Nixon
plz send me too - kanidor [at] gmail [dot] com - thx - Rydhold
proglot at gmail dot com - Vadim Smelyansky - Nick Soden
I would love an invite if anyone has an extra! - Martha from BuddyFeed
Would like one if there's one to spare. :) rowlikeagirl [@] - rowlikeagirl
billgiltner at - bill giltner - Many Thanks! - Kevin Doyle Please send the Blog Bloke an invite. Thanks muchly! - BLOGBloke
I would love one sweyn3 [at] gmail [dot] com - Sweyn Venderbush
jlarche [at] who else? [dot] com. Thanks!!! - Jeff Larche THX!!! - Jason
scottph at - Scott Phillips |Thx! - shallop - Robert Couture
I'll take one if you can give - RICHARD E. MOORE
id love an invite - allen074 - at - - thank you - Allen Stern
I've been too busy to get on FF the last few days....figures something important happening and I missed it! I knew about Google Wave but didn't know there would be a thread to post a request. In any case, better late than never, I'd love an invite at madeliene2007 at :) - Bonnie Foster somebody please send me a invitation... ^_^ : ) - ‎‎Emad PLEASE! - John Rath Am really excited to try this out for a collaborative research project I'm working on. Hoping someone has an invite to spare! - Wim Mulder . Keen to see if we can shake M$'s cage about messaging and collaboration. - Giulio Campobassi
Would love an invite - jonathonc at - Jonathon
cygnion at woah mate. - Nick Martin
ericsizemore at geeeemaill - thank you! - Eric Sizemore Thanks in anticipation!! - John Kitchen Thanks! - Ryan Singer please invite me:) - Ebru ERDEM
Adding to the list -- john.spyers at - John Spyers
mishef [@] gmail dot com -- Thanks! - techWALL
Would realy like to get an invite: mithandir at - Mithandir
legrand at — Thanks! - Mathieu
sajidahinakhan at gmail - Sajida Hina Khan - mfatih
thailunn (at) thanx ! - Taylan Kılıç
VitaArdiyana (at) gmail (dot) com, Thanks before Kol. I will delete my comment when i have my google wave account. - Vimala Vita
Google Wave : Could anyone invite me ? : jean.charles.blondeau[at] Thanks - Jean-Charles
Would appreciate an invite. (Thanks!) - Joe Perrin thanx - olmayanaergi
can anyone please invite me? I'd love to have a play with wave! - Ian Rathbone
Would LOVE an invite. bizservicesbroker at gmail dot com - Wazza T
gladstone at - Gladstone
takuhito.sotome (at) - takuhito from iPhone
killahkrew (at) gmail (dot) com - Sebastian
cornelius<DOT>toole<AT>gmail<DOT>com - Cornelius Toole
Please pretty please....jazzjeppe AT - Jesper Jazzper Isaksson
Please... luthiano [at] gmail [dot] com - Luthiano Vasconcelos
nico[dot]morgan[at] - many thanks! - Nico
imran3000(at) - imran
An invite would be much appreciated: daveholmesprojects (at) Thanks. - David Holmes
System Messages Invite Status: 17559 invite requests in the system. 7 invites confirmed as received by requester. 199 invites claimed as sent from giver. - oliv21 - Andrew Euell
laetSgo{at}gmail{dot}com... can't wait !!! have to :-( - laetSgo
Me me me ... - Sam Stone
lhasa(dot)jack(at)gmail(dot)com !! Thanks!! - Jack Lhasa
sd11208 at gmail dot come - Stalyn☂ - Michel from iPhone :( thanks - Mehrdxd - gökhan özçelik - Konrad - Jesper Jazzper Isaksson[AT] - سینه سرخ
hurstel[AT] - hurstel
srikyada at gmail dot com - Srikanth
How does anyone know if someone has already been invited? You could go back and edit your comment when you receive an invitation, but since that takes days, it could be ages before you know. - marziah
siavash [dot] tehrani [at] ... thanks - خان دایی سیا
@marziah If you receive a second invite you could fwd the invite link to another person here :) - Franc, a rememberer
ali.aliakbary@ ( tnx - Conformist
ayoubi [at] gmail [.dot.] com - Soroush Ayoubi if I get an invitation I'll... - Amin
karmacomincAT gmail dot com Thanks !! - Karma Martell
Hello I would like a google wave invite. my email is - ZOD
much appreciate a kind invite: - reedman
doauto [@] - neswell
MR.foolish @ PLEASE - Joe
ace0cc AT <3 - Colby
got an invite today, so I deleted my comment above. Thks anyway. - François Dongier
I'd really appreciate an invite. 4 phlebas at google mail dot com - Sung W. Lim
praveenvasudevis at gmail dot com. thanks! - Praveen Vasudev
I've had three nominations already and still no invite :( What's up with that Google? :( - RK
zerdale @ - Ayhan Kocak - Vincent D'Oria
I've not even had a nomination, RK. At google dot com I'm suezanne , in the event anyone wants to make a nomination. I've asked before on friendfeed. It's kind of humiliating to beg. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
i have decided that if i do indeed get an invite, i will decline, forward my gmail account to windows live and put ie back as my default browser and i will bing it - Ross Button
@Ross: why punish yourself for something you didn't do? :) - François Dongier
I just want some google love; just like the rest of us do; but n,o they wave at us as they have their private, invite only party; thumb to nose, fingers a waving - that's the google wave; we need a tshirt - Ross Button :) Not expecting anything, but thanks anyway! - Alan (Giraffes) - Константин
vixted at Thank you. - Vic Ted from iPhone - Mattb4rd - thanks a lot - time2die
stefigno @ gmail . com -thanks. - Stefigno
fabiocurzi @ gmail . com - Fabio Curzi - Sarper Sılaoğlu - حسینی can i have an invitation plz - salah Thanks!!! - China Internet Rumors
Send to me plz ,,, {a} gmail {dot} com - Mohammad Sharifi
I'd love an invite to Google Wave pls. non-geeky bf got one before me! that's just not cricket.. hehe :) icetigerza (at) gmail - Kim
Hello, if there's any invite left, you'll make me more than happy ;-) matthieu.beauval [at] gmail [dot] com, thank you ! - matthieu beauval
Of all the people posting here the chances of me getting an invite are slim but I'm still willing to try. If someone wants to shoot an invite over to I'd REALLY appreciate it. - John from iPhone
khawro at - Konrad
It looks like it, although you might be able to use the hyperlink on the front of the Wave homepage to request an invitation, if it's still available. - Tyson Key
dsenior at the gmail - Dave Senior
I'll give this a try: j.linkola at gmail - anyone have invites left? - Jussi Linkola
Anyone can provide a Google Wave invite? - Brian
firatdemirel at just needs an invite for Gwave. Thanks. - Fırat Demirel
Does anyone have an invite to share? Can you send it to v9y.rec at please? Thanks. - Vinay | विनय
Can somebody send an ivitation to . Thanks in advance. - Yiğit
Please send an invitation to me at I got tired waiting. - Kandarp Trivedi
I'll be glad to invite others on this thread once I get mine. Thanks in advance.. Keep the thread alive. - Kandarp Trivedi
really need one, would be so grateful - brandon
I want Google Wave invite too, please sent it to: ric4p5 {at} gmail [dot] com Thanks - jose manuel
If anyone has invites, could I have one please? tekked - - TechKid
Thanks in advance mgkbull(at) - Bull
In case there is still someone with spare invitations: piotr.byzia at - Piotr Byzia - Anyone with a sparee invite and feeling generous! (thank you thank you thank you in advance!!!) :D - Simply Teeeya
Anyone with a spare would be my hero! Someone bought out my buddy who was going to give me one. - Robert Coombs
Heh :d Heh :D - majid
Please send invitation to me: aminsabeti@ Gmail. Com - Amin Sabeti from iPhone
If anyone has a spare invite - please send me one: -- many thxs :) - Frank Da Silva
Hooman.Moeen [at] Gmail [dot] com - Hooman Moeen
omega_fire2004 [ at] yahoo [dot ] com - alirz
I have Google Wave invites available anyone interested let me know - Kim Landwehr
Still waiting for an invite. :-( - MicahBear78 - amir farahani Thanks a lot~ - vickywoo - Hozhabr thanks! - gabegabe
Can I Get one Thank You !! - The Stig - random person
karmacomincATgmailDOTcom Muchas Gracias - Karma Martell Much thanks if anyone has any! - Louis Simoneau - Mr.Seaver
maxphoto85 [at] gmail [dot] com, thanks. - Max Batsyn
leonid.vladimir [@] g m a i l . c o m Thanks a lot - Leonid Vladimir
jdblaich[@]gmail dot com -- much appreciated. - jimbo99
Got one from Trish a couple days ago. Now, looking for folks to wave with: marybaumcreative (at) googlewave (dotcom). - Mary B: #TeamMonique
scott.j.emerson[at]gmail[dot]com Thanks - Scott Emerson
If you have any more invites, I would love one. - Wayne Ramlogan
pantra2006 (att) gmail (dott) com pleaseeeeeeeeeee - ــــرMEHRمـهــــ
hii can you send me one google wave invit...thanks in adv. - abhishek - احــــســـــان
If anyone has some, Thanks a lot! - Happehwalrus
mohsenweb{[ A T ]} g m a i l {DOT}com , Thanks! - Phoenix
I have 7 invites to Google Wave, if someone is interested, please DM with e-mail address. Ciao, Andrea - Andrea Romoli
I also have invites - James Myatt
allanbesselink<at>gmail<dot>com ... please! - Allan Besselink
I'll wager that some of the folks on this list have received their invite by now, or no longer want one - I have 16 invitations at this instant. It's probably easier for me if you DM. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
fifiquimbo(at)gmail(dot)com. I would love one, thanks! - Fifi Quimbo
I have 8 invites to Google Wave, if someone is interested, please DM with e-mail address. Ciao, Andrea - Andrea Romoli
Thomas Hawk
Photographer James Rhodes Thinks It’s Ok to Threaten People With Violence on the Internet -
I was deeply troubled by comments made in a Flickr forum that I admin by Photographer James Rhodes. His Flickr account is here where he goes by thevikingjames. He’s on Facebook here. For some reason Rhodes seems to blame me for internet harassment that he feels he’s suffered on the internet for admining an uncensored group on Flickr. He claims to have stalked me at the Dream Machines Show this past year in Half Moon Bay and has written that I didn’t know how close I came to being mugged by him at that event. Note. This is someone that I’ve never met in life and had no signficant interaction with on the internet prior to him making these sorts of threats. He’s made threats against other people in this internet forum as well. I’m not going to get into the details of this specifically, other than to say that I found it offensive that he’d suggest that he was stalking me at a public photographer event. And that he’d threaten physical violence against people over differences in photography... more... - Thomas Hawk
On his web site, he says he's "someone a bit more talented than [Thomas Hawk]." Yet I can't find any of his photos. And threatening your family is lower than low. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, Thomas. Good luck. - Celine Chamberlin
The sort of people who are capable of (and have a tendency to) carry out acts of violence, do it rather than talk about it on the internet. The sort that talk about it are usually morons who've been kicked around most of their lives and are just wannabe 'gangsters'. The internet is the only place that's going to happen and sadly for them, it only happens in a virtual, non real way. Not very satisfying. I wouldn't worry about him. - Gary
Sad, very sad. - ChiliMac
caution is advised - imran
Ugly, hope it doesn't escalate anymore, if it does there should be enough grounds for some sort of legal action. - Grant Bierman
: ( what is on his website right now is terribly disturbing. - carlotta fancypants
yeah carlotta. I've blocked him here. - Thomas Hawk
Paul Buchheit
"Obama has been able to totally neutralize the anti-war coalitions ... The anti-war left doesn't exist anymore" - Ron Paul
"Obama has been able to totally neutralize the anti-war coalitions ... The anti-war left doesn't exist anymore" - Ron Paul
Agree or disagree? - Paul Buchheit
If a surge is ordered by obama in afghan, antiwar movement will return with momentum, wait and see. - imran
Robert Scoble
DO you love GOOGLE WAVE? Do you hate GOOGLE WAVE? Tell me LIVE what you think here (you can even call me an idiot!):
so tempted :) - Rhys Amos
I'm sorry, it's worse than I thought yesterday. I'm writing a blog about it. Be up shortly. - Robert Scoble
The people who commented on my blog motivated me. In a bad way. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
I don't have a google wave account, so can't tell ya. - imabonehead
I'm letting you first adopters sink your time into it and waiting to hear what you think, before I spend any time with it. Not impressed with what I have heard so far though. - Jeff P. Henderson
Wanna try it out, but I don't have an invite. - Mike Dotta
I think it has a bit of a way to go, then I'll love it - Nicholas Orr
Jeff: it's worth checking out. There is SOME value here, but not as much as the hype made us all believe. - Robert Scoble
I think Google Wave isn't and won't be a great public communication tool. But it does have potential when it comes to collaboration within teams. In the long run it could give apps like Campfire a run for their money. - Abhijeet Mukherjee
Would love an invitation. Seems a marketing scheme rther than soft launch - Mark de Kock
I would had an opinion if I had it :) - Ata İsmet Özçelik
Do we have to comment on GOOGLE WEAVE to call you an idiot? j/k - RAD Moose
I don't love it - don't hate it - mostly I'm just puzzled as to what the best use cases are & with many of the UI quirks (and I would argue outright errors) - Shannon Clark
No invite yet. Lots of blog posts saying how it's going to change the world...but then the next sentence is that they haven't tried it yet. ?? - Jesse P. Luna
I finally figured out what I hate about it, though. It's based on email and makes the email metaphor even worse (And slower!!!) - Robert Scoble
I was in the Dev Sandbox version of Google Wave awhile ago, and it felt like I was in a really out of control AOL Chat room in the early 90s. - RAD Moose
Mark: it's not incredibly stable yet - so it is very much a dev preview - Nicholas Orr
Google wave is awesome if only I could get it! Even if I sent an invite request few hours after presentation months ago , still no invite received :( - Dema from iPhone
i have an invitation coming, from a friend. however, since it is not here yet, all i can say is their strategy for creating demand and buzz is absolutely stellar. must confess i am not immune, i feel that when my invite "trickles" through, i will indeed be quite fond of it. disclaimer: i have ADD & love noise. a lot. - (dot)lizard kelly
I'm just starting to get it - but am online with it and very motivated to see if it's as awesome as the Googlers and community believe it is. It's fascinating to say the least, from what I've seen so far. I'm open to connect with others on the Preview via - Tony Hollingsworth
Would love to experiment, was too busy when invite op came by, what's the best way to get one now? Robert, how's the baby? Pics were sooo cute. :) Best, Dave - dave_blogworld
Here's some ammunition for you Robert - Mark Krynsky
For such a strong platform, they totally bombed their marketing campaigns. Until you actually play with it, it's nearly impossible to understand what the heck they've created. - Sean Power
I love the ambition and the real time capabilities, but I am cautious in terms of its utility. It will take some getting used to. - Louis Gray
Given the big boom in traffic I got the last two days, Scoble, I assume yours has been immense. Front page of Slashdot, on Der Spiegel, you led TM yesterday. Nice job. - Louis Gray
Google Wave is mediocre, so it can't neither be loved or hated. Being mediocre is the worst thing you can do since it most often leave people indifferent. - rick
I can see ways in which it can be beneficial. I just don't see a public social network expanding from it as a service. It will find it's place and loyal userbase. Just like FriendFeed did. - Mark Krynsky
Though I haven't got invite yet but I still think when it is done and public for all of us there will be a lots of application which will make it more intuitive and useful. well for example twitter is not that much fun without its related apps. is it ? - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I think it is too early for any assumptions - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
The protocol seems cool. - Mason Lee
From the video I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. So far I can't find an invite, so as of right now I have to totally agree with you - RickMeasham from iPhone
I've try it, it seems cool but i need to test more the integration of external contents. - Roberto Scano
Wondering if it will replace Basecamp and Skype. If I could put those together it would be a major step for our company. Outsourcing to India is all of a sudden very easy because of "Rosy" the translation tool That's powerful. Didn't get a first day invite but look forward to testing it for our organization. - Brandon
Wave is baby at the moment and not even in beta version. So too early and useful for anything. While studying the protocol, it is indeed very intuitive - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Brandon, there are a couple tools to allow conferencing from inside Wave, a gadget from Ribbit and I think Twillio has a robot or something. - James Williams
Anybody here written a wave server? - Mason Lee
Mason: I don't think so - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
If Google is the only wave-server game in town, it'll be kinda lame. They already read all my email. - Mason Lee
James: To combine the collaborator and the IM client would be big news for us. The promise is there but I still don't know if it's feasible. We will write all the todos and deadlines in BaseCamp and then move to Skype so it can be discussed. Doesn't seem very efficient and Wave seems to be the missing link. - Brandon
By the way here in Sydney where Google Wave is being developed we've had a couple of user groups at the Googleplex in Pyrmont. See hashtag on Twitter #gwsug - a couple of tweeps worth following are @domesticmouse @pamelafox @purserj @harrisony - they're deep dive and I believe have written a "wave server - Tony Hollingsworth
Robert, write more blog posts. :) - ryanhuff
I think it's our job to celebrate innovation and shots at leaps forward. It shouldn't matter so much that a product doesn't live up to the hype right now. The original web browser sucked, PINE sucked, my Tandy TRS 80 sucked, my first iPhone was a mess. But now, my email is great, my web browser is fast and full-featured, and my laptop is small and more powerful than ever. The iphone is... more... - Morgan
I hate it because... I don't get an invite. - Jackie
++1 Morgan - Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Morgan: Hear, hear. - Mason Lee
Here's a post from Sydney's local newspaper about the Wave team here: - Tony Hollingsworth
I think the product is too young to tell if it will be understood by user; and we as potential user need some time to understand the possibile uses of the product...I have an account, and I was in the dev sandbox, I think it's a briliant object... but still it's too young to tell. - andrea
It is a definitely interesting product. However, I need more than 1 other person to have it to see if I really know how it will function. - beachpig
It's dumb. I had it months ago. totally stupid. Then again, I don't like web based services. I only run desktop apps and despise Google stuff out of totaly control. so wave is dumb. email is better. - Adam Jackson
Andrea: I agree. I think the robots and gadgets people have developped/will develop will help better define the user experience. - James Williams
I haz not had wave yet!!! - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
I will tell you what. This is a lot better than using Google Wave. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
for this purpose yes it is - the only way it would happen in Google Wave is if we were all in a group that you sent it to :) - Nicholas Orr
Google Wave seems too bloated... but we will see - joe
I think GW just takes some gettinmg used to and U need to make sure you kow what U use it for, it is NOT just another new kind of 'multimedia collaborative mail chat'. - oliver gassner
guess one should differntiate between the WAVE technology (protocol) and what everybody now is moarning about - the collaborative mail chat thing they build to demonstrate its capabilities. Looking back it might have been a good idea to take a well known application to get the potential transportet. but now people are rating this application instead of the technology WAVE which has an enourmous potential! Its push´n´pull on steroids - and thats what makes a difference. - psanner
Have not tried it, but real time collaboration looks promising. I wonder if it fits the way people are comfotable working - Michele Costabile
Has potential for closed groups of people that all use wave. Further adoption depends on integration of legacy systems IMO. - bishoph
Slower than email, and just, well slow. I'd imagine it'll speed up a bit when 3rd party federation servers take the load off a bit. Even with the quirks worked out, it'll still just as exiting as email. When blogs start integrating Wave THAT's when things will really get started. If they deliver what they're promising it's going to bring about a new generation of social networking. - Philip from iPhone
I manage the IT for 5 people. Our biggest problem is making sure everyone sees what they are suppose to see. The idea that I can install Google Wave on a local server, and only have those 5 people in that instance is exciting. The Google Wave you are all trying ISN'T Google Wave, it's a free-for-all test of it the protocols. If you expect it to be another social media site, then you... more... - Johnny
I've reproduced this thread in a public wave: - You're live in Google Wave too. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Patrik, agree. It's a very early version of a protocol. I think it's an amazing start and has lots of potential. I'd like to see groups added and some control of what waves you are receiving. But don't forget you can use the protocol and place it in your own site, so we can have a FF that looks like GWave. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
This is the Internet, Patrik. It's not about being right, just first... - Johnny
I mentioned this on today's show. If I can run my own instance, I could almost create my own 'realtime BBS'. If I could create my own network with just a select group of people (say movie buffs or photographers) to exchange files and talk in real time... WOW. We all go one about social networks controlling what we say and owning our content. If I could set up my own sites, free from rules or ToS... WOW x2 - Johnny
No comment!! If anyone is generous to send me a free invite, pls send to victed at Thank you :-) - Vic Ted from iPhone
google wave looks exciting, however the slow release to developers is making other current real-time standards like PSHB and SUP more attractive for immediate building - Mike Chelen
I have an invite and I've used it somewhat and I suppose I'm lucky I'm not a blogger who adds everyone on earth to every tool that I use in the hopes that I can parse all the noise, because I immediately saw the value in Wave. Rule number 1 of Wave: Don't talk about Wave. Seriously. The second you stop involving yourself in 20 concerrent waves about does Wave work? how is this looking?... more... - Chieze Okoye
Robert: "I will tell you what. This is a lot better than using Google Wave." is the epitome of what you're doing wrong. Honestly. Stop trying to use it like you use FriendFeed and start trying to use it like you use Google Docs and BAM, you'll see it. - Chieze Okoye
Chieze: is there anything different or better compared with google docs? - Mike Chelen
well, the thing that I like about it is that it combines the ease of collaboration of GDocs with the basic (sorta) paradigm of email/IM to improve the conversation part of creating a document. In GDocs, the communication with your colleagues/friends part of collaboration always took a back seat to the creation part. In Wave, I think it pretty successfully melds the two. - Chieze Okoye
That said, neither facet in Wave independently (communication or creation) is as good as the two tools that exist now (Gmail and GDocs) but combined, it makes a lot of stuff easier. Specifically the kind of email threads centered around a central idea or final product (group report, list of who's bringing what to which party when, etc). - Chieze Okoye
Love it. Even at this preview stage, I'd hoped for greater control over the Inbox - after all, it's supposed to be "email, invented today" - so, in its current form, it's not ready for mainstream/widestream adoption, but with a bit of polish from the usability experts, it's going to redefine how inter and intra organisation communication and collaboration takes place. - Andrew Terry
And also, there's tremendous ability to keep Waves on topic (specific tools and actions available to remove thread-jackers and/or their non-sequiturs, add people as they become pertinent, remove people as they become unrelated, etc), instantly provides value to me over emails. There are definitely shortcomings and rough edges, no doubt, but the potential is quite clear when you know where to look. - Chieze Okoye
Chieze: might address a few gdocs issues- that tracking revisions becomes difficult with many edits, and the lack of a realtime api. interesting, thanks - Mike Chelen
Yeah, good point Mike, I hadn't even considered the API issue. As far as your first point, the revision part of Wave (playback mode) is already (to me) superior than the one in GDocs in terms of allowing me to follow all the changes that went into a document/Wave. With some more granularity and control (rollbacks, diffs between non-successive states, etc), it will be nigh perfect. - Chieze Okoye
its not what i expected it to be, not from google, i guess they are mortal too. - imran
for me it looks like groupware done right. Because it will really elevate in a corporate envirement when there is a office integration and you can make all you're office stuff in a colaborative way with all office products with all mayor plattforms and with people outside the intranet - mosta from AndFeed
there is a alternative server called pygowave where you can get a test account. It has not as much features bud you can run it yourself - mosta from AndFeed
Does the invite have to go to my gmail address? Or can I get one at ? - Justin Goldberg
haven't tried it yet. - Thomas Hawk
can only tell that once my close friends join in...till now just experimenting. From the discussions that i saw till now, learning curve is pretty slack for G-Wave...all the new terms, bots, not to mention the inconsistent behaviour. But then its only a preview.. :) - Roshan Ramachandran
Still waiting for my invite. It's been two days since someone invited me so they must be really backed up sending them out. - Mike Doeff from iPhone
with my limited use of WAVE...huge potential once more extension are built integrating with other Google services and offerings...using iGoogle page to consume information it would be nice to choose items and insert them into a WAVE for collaborative discussion / work related = GAnalytics extension would make it efficient to discuss metrics - shayne catrett
FriendFeed != Google Wave - I think that's why you're frustrated. You're trying to solve a problem it wasn't meant to solve. - Jesse Stay
In hindsight, I'd say the biggest problem with Wave is the way they decided to roll it out. If they'd simply given invites to groups of people who actually have a reason to try to work together and collaborate on real projects...rather than 100K unrelated developers/early adopters/pundits... I think much of the unwarranted backlash could've been avoided. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, but then Robert would be complaining of why he hasn't gotten a Wave invite yet ;-) - Jesse Stay
Yeah, you just can't win, can you? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Ken: I use more collaboration software than anyone I know, so I'm pretty qualified to try this stuff out. - Robert Scoble
Andrew Terry: the problem is that the email metaphor is very unproductive. THAT is what I hate about Google Wave!!! Thank you for identifying it. There are far better metaphors for collaboration. Oh, and I get a lot more done in Google Docs than I ever will in Google Wave. Why? Because documents are a far more productive collaboration metaphor than email is. - Robert Scoble
Shoot! I wish I had a Google Wave invite so I could try it out for myself! Hope it doesn't take too long to get one. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer: you already have FriendFeed. Wave will make you say "meh." Oh, OK, I can watch you type in real time and see just how bad a typist you really are. - Robert Scoble
If someone can send me an invitation I'll tell you if I hate or love it ;) - Napolux from twhirl
Robert: Yes, having FriendFeed does remove a lot of the wow factor of Wave. The real power is in the apps(gadgets and robots) which besides the featured gadgets is uncharted territory. - James Williams
Robert: But don't we have to find a replacement for FriendFeed? FriendFeed is the best, but how long will it be here? :-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I think Wave has a story for FF's threaded comments(IMHO it has a story for most of FF). What it needs is roles on a Wave so that I can allow ppl to reply to a blip that was created from one of my social media actions yet disallow them from deleting anything but their comments/replies. Also being able to have my "personal social media wave" be updated when I comment on someone else's "social media wave" would be nice so I that all parties can own that interaction. - James Williams
Am I the only one who is SERIOUSLY concerned about the power Google has over our lives and businesses? Do we really want to keep giving them more and more access to what we do? I know they can compile it anyway but we can at least not make it so easy for them. I have had access to dozens of Google Analytics accounts. When Google is responsible for 50-70% of the traffic and 50-70% of the... more... - Gail Gardner
I have not used it, but I have a question - Should Google have waited little longer to polish it? because if people don't like it or they don't get invites they are likely to forget it ? If Google wave was from other company say xyzwave, people would not have created such a hoopla. To Non-geek public :What I am feeling is that majority of people don't have any idea what Google wave is and those people are likely to complain without fully understanding it. - Ashish
I agree completely with Ashish. - Red Label
It's the frame of a house that could be quite something. - Aron Michalski
you're an idiot lol jk ;) however the whole debate has got me thinking about how i use twitter and i have decided to change my approach cheers! twitter(at)locspoc - Loc
I'm certain I'd love Google Wave if: a) Google thought I was cool enough to have it; and b) I had it. - Karoli
I don't know how to feel about Google Wave! - Chris Charabaruk
Can someone send me an invite to wave please americanm at - americanm
i requested them but still didnt have the invite.. please some one invite me : viralavatar at - Daniele - Viralavatar
Feels like IRC/iChat/Friend Feed - Eric_T
Robert: Have you tried wave out with any of the Building43/Rackspace folks on project work? A team of 3 or 4 people or so? Anything work related? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm genuinely curious how it's worked out for you when it's with a group tying to create something collaboratively vs general tire kicking stuff. - Ken Sheppardson
I think Google Wave is going to be one of those Google products that never really takes off. - Steven (optionshiftk)
I think I should at least try it before forming an opinion, and since nobody has saw fit to invite me, I can't do that at this time. I think your request for opinions is a bit to early for most of us. - April Russo (FForever!)
My ocean is flat. No wind, no waves. - MiniMage
I'm still waiting for someone to invite me. But from what I'm seeing wave is more like a framework for people to build upon, not a user application itself. - Sung W. Lim
@Sung - that's basically my conclusion as well ( and a few people seem to agree with me that the beta is really more about figuring out what the UI should actually be for that framework than just polishing the UI they currently have. Most people are too caught up in the hype though and don't know what they're looking at and so get disappointed pretty fast. - Lindsay
Robert, far from idiot, but you really surprised me Thursday (too fast & decisive), digesting the new post. - Majento
I'm bullish. It seems like a lot of noise now, but when I saw the demo I saw how much more useful it could be for certain types of communication. - Adam Loving
Option #3: Did you not get an invite to Google Wave? - Michael Pinto
I would comment Robert but as I didn't get an invite to Google Wave, I can't. - Technogran
Even if you use it for its intended purpose (collaboration among a pre-selected group of people), Google Wave still needs a lot of work. - John E. Bredehoft
You should do a public wave with this question, and add the poll extension so people can vote and comment at the same time - Jesse Stay
Tag me when you do though so I know you did it. :-) - Jesse Stay
like, want to try more usual conversation stuff before being sure, but like the embedding, sharing, etc - immaterial
never got a chance :( - testbeta
Robert, thanks for opening the discussion. I really would like to read about more evidence and facts about the experience, rather than opinions without a foundation or whining about not having it. - Luis Valdes
+1 Sung and Lindsay. Actually, this isn't even a beta, it's an alpha preview. - Chieze Okoye
If you try to use wave as a replacement for facebook, twitter or friendfeed it's not going to work. Lots of people want it to be the revolution in social media when in fact its aimed more at private communication. as a way to communicate between a few friends it's fantastic although it still needs some work. Just remmeber its a replacement for email and im - Jamie Vidamour
It's okay Robert and has potential especially for collabortory working together. However, whether or not the general public is going to drop e-mail and IM and use this instead is a moot point, as its not easy to 'suss out' - Technogran
@Sandra I don't think the basic useage is any more complicated than email, people probably just need to have their hand held through a simple example conversation with one or two others & they'll be able to use it - public waves & advanced features can come later if needed - immaterial
Thomas Hawk
Rio de Janeiro just won the 2016 Olympics.
Congrats to Rio and to South America for landing their first Summer Olympics. - Mike Lewis
good choice - imran
<3 Rio. - Carlos Ayala
Louis Gray
Mobile Phone 101: Class is In Session. Bring your own phone to participate.
Excellent, Andrea. Thank you. Since we aren't going to get a dog for a while, that will help. - Louis Gray
Georgia comes in to our room in the morning, grabs Rachael's iPhone, unlocks it and launches her spelling games. - Johnny
teehee! I hope they're both speaking at BlogWorld! Would love to meet them. :) - Daynah
cute pics!! - Susan Beebe
Great pics Louis. - William Buist
Cute. - Victor Panlilio
I'm guessing the Gray family will be signing up for an AT&T family plan very shortly! - Jeff P. Henderson
You are so technologically p*wned in about 5 to 7 years.......s'okay though adults will be obsolete by 2027 anyway. - suzanne
why kids always like the glowing things? - testbeta
i think it is natural instinct of even an adult human or even animals and insects, do kids find colorful things interesting? we try to paint all their things and surroundings, have seen even kids' schools painted colorfully - testbeta
my sister says wow what a wonderful set of dolls hahahahaha - testbeta
Has anyone considered the fact that this may all be part of some massive cloning conspiracy by the Grays to create the most perfect, gorgeous and smartest (and deadliest) babies on the planet? We could in actual fact be watching some secret technology-weapon training session.. And knowing how smart Louis is, they could be doing it right in public, the last place we'd look. We're through the looking glass here people... Best I say no more unless they send... *thud* - Johnny
hahahaha - testbeta
soooo cute! - KathyThomas
Super cute? There's an app for that. - Fossil Huntress
app for what? - testbeta
Kamilah Gill, who is amazing, has a true artist's rendition: (Great work!) - Louis Gray
only fathers know meaning of these moments - imran
Dallas bomb plot suspect speaks little English, but tells court he understands charges | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News -
Dallas bomb plot suspect speaks little English, but tells court he understands charges | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News
"The FBI sting culminated in Thursday's arrest after Smadi parked a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac, supplied by the FBI, in the garage of the emerald-green glass office tower that is home to many businesses, including a Wells Fargo Home Mortgage office. Inside the SUV was a fake bomb, designed to appear similar to one used by Timothy McVeigh in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Authorities say Smadi thought he could detonate it with a cellphone. After parking the vehicle, he got into another vehicle with one of the agents, and they drove several blocks away. An agent offered Smadi earplugs, but he declined, "indicating that he wanted to hear the blast," authorities said. He then dialed the phone, thinking it would trigger the bomb, authorities said. Instead, the agents took him into custody." - he really got played - bob from Bookmarklet
Nice. - Paul Buchheit
So the FBI gave him an SUV with a fake bomb and a cell phone, told him to park the SUV under an office building, and then told him to dial a number with the cell phone? It seems pretty weak. - Gabe
"Got played"? How is this not entrapment? - Andrew C (✔)
We seem to be inserting our own words here, how do we know that the FBI told him exactly what to do, rather than making the means available? Even if they did tell him exactly what to do, how would this individual fare if "entrapped" by Al Qaeda recruiters at a Mosque? If there are indeed people out there who function as mindless automatons and do exactly what they're told committing high crimes that could kill hundreds of innocents, should we really consider them harmless? - Ray Cromwell
WOW, another FBI success. FBI can do this with thousands of McVeighs in US too, but their target remains same, to convict a targeted group, waist millions of dollars on fake cases, fail to catch real terrorists, similar to Japanese prosecution during and after WWII. US remains hostile place to this targeted group. - imran
So this guy is now the victim? /rollseyes - Spencer
Ray: The FBI is supposed to be catching criminals, not creating them. Imagine if the FBI convinced some loner to try drugs, then arrested him and put out a press release bragging about how they're keeping America safe from dangerous junkies. I would say that's ridiculous; they should be going after the drug pushers and manufacturers. The FBI should be going after guys preaching jihad and making bombs, not the millions of depressed loners who hate America. - Gabe
Gabe: 100% right u r sir - imran
But this guy went further than just hang out on a Jihadi BBS, when given the chance to hook up with an imagined "real" terrorist network, he jumped at the chance to a acquire a bomb. I know there have been instances of the FBI almost bribing or coaxing impressionable teen wannabes into 'joining' al-qaeda and then busting them, but this guy seems from the facts to have to be a slightly... more... - Ray Cromwell
Ray: If the FBI were in fact selling fake bombs and waiting for people to buy them and plant them, that would be a perfectly reasonable use of police resources. If Smadi already had a target and was in the market for a bomb, which the FBI conveniently supplied, then you could make a good argument that the FBI foiled a terrorist plot. However in this case it appears as though they found a guy they could manipulate, then gave him a bomb and told him what to do with it. - Gabe
It stil disturbs me that there are people so easy to manipulate into committing mass murder. This isn't manipulating kids into committing some simple property damage or other form of protest, so I am conflicted as to how much sympathy to give this guy. He was an adult, apparently with full mental capacity and maturity, knowing agreed to commit mass murder when asked or influenced by others, and apparently believed he was carrying it out. It doesn't sound like he needed all that much coaxing or arm twisting. - Ray Cromwell
Ray: The FBI isn't going to put out a press release indicating how much they had to convince somebody to become a criminal, but normal people don't take convincing to torture ( or kill ( people they don't know. And remember, the FBI is saying "Push this button to do your duty to Allah", not "Don't push this button or you'll kill hundreds of innocent people". - Gabe
But Gabe, given the lack facts available, you're speculating in the opposite direction. We don't know that the FBI actually coaxed or commanded him to do anything. I know about those experiments (read _The Social Animal_ a long time ago), but one thing that was made clear was that it was response to authority that was the inducement. It is not clear that the FBI said "We're the FBI, now... more... - Ray Cromwell
Ray: From the arrest warrant ( I can tell that there's very little evidence that Smadi would have done any violent act without the FBI's intervention. Obviously they're going to cherry-pick the most incriminating messages and give them the worst interpretation. Smadi may very well be a dangerous terrorist who needed to be captured, but all I see is an unstable, misguided teenager. The FBI is a bunch of con men, and Smadi was just an easy mark. - Gabe
Robert Scoble
stevecla: the metaphor "sleeps like a baby" is bullshit -
I feel your pain and remember it well. Our first born just didn't sleep. Second one "slept like a baby" and 20 years later, still does. All part of the fun of "being people" I suppose, except when they're wrecking havoc on your sleep cycles. Hang in there... - Gregg Morris
Scoble is human symbol of multi-tasking - imran
Robert Scoble
Welcome Ryan!
Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - Rhys Amos
Congrats. Now the fun begins!!! - Mike Shields
Awesome! - dstamand
Congratulations! - Stephan Planken
Congratulations! Welcome, Ryan! - Lance M. Brown
Awesome - RetiredTeacherD
Yay! Congratulations! - Jesse Stay
YAYAYAYAYAY! Congrats to you and Maryam!@#!@#! - drew olanoff
congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome Ryan. - rick
Welcome to the world. - Dave Mora
Congratulations!!! - Mike Doeff
Born 11:32. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Yay! Congratulations to you and your wife! Now off to buy RSS and iPhone - Lise
Congrats!!!!! - Mark Evans
Congratulations! - Kenneth
I hope you're well rested, Robert ... ;-) - Hieronymus Murphy
Congrats Robert! - Charlie Anzman
Congratulations! - Antoniu
Congratulations! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Congrats to you all - JanLawrence
Congrats Robert and welcome RSS! - Robb Brock
Congratulations! Happy Birthday Ryan! Lots of love to the whole family. - Jodi Church
SUBSCRIBED! - drew olanoff
Hello World! - CannonGod
Congratulations!! Welcome to the world Ryan!! :) - Laura Zickus
<rss> awesome! </rss> - sean percival
welcome to the new world little one! all hail our pink squirming screaming overlord! - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
20.5 inches long. 7 lbs. 13 oz. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
nice alpha version. welcome RSS ! - Kaïs Miled
congrats!! welcome rss! - Barbara R. S.
Congratulations :) - امیرعباس
RSS is finally here! Congrats Robert & Maryam - Dennis Jernberg
Congrats Robert... best wishes to all - joupy
Congratulations! - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Blessings, and the best Robert! - Nakeva Corothers
Cute! - Charlie Anzman
مبارک باشه Congratulations - هامد
Congrats!!! - Jim Williams
Grats! - Denverken
مبارکه رفیق رابرت . خدا حفظش کنه - جـوان ایرانی
If Dave Winer comes on here and claims to have invented RSS I will smack him. - drew olanoff
Congratulations and all the best. - Bryce Roney
Welcome Ryan!!! - Phil
Welcome Ryan :) - giuseppe c. | markgreene
Awesome. Congratulations! - John McCrea
Congratulations! - anna sauce
Congratulations :) Welcome Ryan :) - Mohamed Marwen Meddah
Congrats, Imagine where RSS and the web will be when he turns 30! - James Watters
Congratulations to you both. - Don McAllister
congrats Robert and Maryam :))))) - Conformist
congrats to the family!! - erik yuzwa
Welcome to RSS in Pubsubhub mode :) - Ouriel Ohayon
Congrats to you all!! We had our second child, a boy, on Tuesday. Enjoy!! - Alex Cordiner from iPhone
Yay! Congrats to you, but mostly congrats to your wife for doing all of the hard work. ;-) xo - Jennifer Leggio
Mazel Tov! - Robb Vaules
Congrats Robert....wishing all the best to your family.... - Carlos
Congratulations! Wow! Seems like we were there just the other day! Looking forward to your late-night feeds and tweets and blog posts! - Louis Gray
You rock! Congrats. Thanks for sharing. How's mum doing? - Steve Lacey from iPhone
Congrats Robert - It is a fine family.... - Simarprit Singh
"beautiful new baby" by Robert Scoble, photojournalist. I stepped away for coffee and bang! RSS - Brian Hendrickson
nice! - Josh Haley from iPhone
Thank you so much for sharing - Sherrie Belken
:) congrats - Shandiz
Born on Talk like a Pirate Day, too! Yarrrr! - Josh Haley from iPhone
congrads ms & mr scoble, :) - chaz2b
congrats!! ^_^ - Christine Lu
Steve: mum is sleeping but got to hold Ryan. Instant love! - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Welcome, Guest dear to our world / Now the world is on your own - Conformist
that feels good - Brian Hendrickson
Congratulations! - Parth Awasthi
Congratulations. Hope Maryam iis doing well - Rachel Clarke
Congratulations! Wish him all the best! - philos
Welcome Baby Ryan!!! My baby Ryan (17 years!) and I are honored to welcome another superstar to our planet! Love, hugs, and lots of kisses to Baby Ryan, Mommy Maryam, Dad Robert and big brothers Milan & Patrick and of course Grandma!!! My guess on Ryan's arrival (predication) was only 23 hours off. I thought he would arrive on Friday, Sept. 18th at 11:45 pm. Love to all, Kelly & Ryan Kim - Kelly S. Kim
Congrats, Robert and Maryam. - Derrick
Congratulations Robert, and well done Maryam! You are truly blessed :) - Nicola Quinn
So happy for you Robert and Maryam. Yeay...another FF baby! - Mark Krynsky
Congratulations! - Surachart Opun
What a moment, eh? I remember when my daughter came into this world, it was so exciting there were no words for it. Congrats on your wonderful baby boy! - Michael J. Carrasquillo
Congratulations - testbeta
Congratulations! Welcome to the world, Ryan. :-) - Yvette Ferry
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome Ryan. If I was having a baby today, I'd begin a blog for him/her straight away as an online diary they could look back on when grown up. - Technogran
he's so cute... - Sinem Vural
Robert, Congratulations to you and Maryamie! - Mike Fruchter
Wow, congrats to all of you! - Paul Salzman
Congratulations to you both! - Forrest W. Kobayashi
Great news guys! All the best! - Chris Nixon
الهــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــی چقده ناز نازیه.اینو فارسی نوشتم مریم جان بخونن ....راستی به باباش که نرفته:)) خوشگلتره:)) پس به شما رفته - joupy
congratulations!! - Jeroen De Miranda
Congratulations to you and your wife Robert! - Randy
Congrats Robert! - Terry Jones
congratz and welcome RSS! - Jon Winters
Congrats Maryam :-) - Terry Jones
Felicitations and humble prayers for your new son. - Victor Panlilio
congrats and best wishes! - Mike Chelen
Congratulations Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Jeff P. Henderson
Congrats!! - Tan Kaiquan
congrats and best wishes to all. :) - Naor Mark
I was a c-section six week preemie in an era when that was seriously life-threatening, they didn't know if I would make for the first week. It always gets me a see a c-section / preemie come howling into the world. Welcome, little guy! - Bob Morris (polizeros) from iPhone
Beautiful baby! Congratulations daddy man :) - Gary
:) Congrats Robert... best wishes to your family! Get her name in twitter and ff! - Business Blogger 【ツ】™
Congratulations to you and Maryam! - Elwin Witzke
AmazinG!! congratulations :) - Nakul
Ryan, good to see you. - Burçak Çubukçu
تولدش مبارک ^_^ Congratulations! - ‎‎Emad
Warm wishes and congratulations. Love that you posted him crying. - Irene Koehler
Congratulation to all of you! All the best for baby ryan!!! - Arne Krueger
woooow like :) - کلـیـشه
Congrats M. & R. - GM
Congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome to geekdom Ryan! - Andrew Wardlaw
Contrats!!! I'm so excited!! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congrats.That pic brings back memories of my own baby's birth only ten months ago. C-section baby boys rock! - Georgiana Comsa
Mazel Tov to you and Maryam. - Michael Markman
Congrats... a few more Scobles make the world a better place ;-) - Aad 't Hart
Congrats... and Welcome Ryan. Good to have you among us. - Sativa
Congratulations! I - Michael Fidler
Wonderful news. Congrats. - Keri
Congrats Robert, and the best to you, Maryam, and of course Ryan! - Chris Charabaruk
Congratulations Congratulations !! - Farzad
Congrats - Sandeep Swaminathan
looking to to the same in 3 weeks - ROBIN SMITH
Congrats on the blessed event! :D - Joel Lovato
Congrats Robert and Maryam. Welcome Ryan !!!!!!!!! - Nir Ben Yona
Congratulations, Robert! - Mark Trapp
Congratulations to Robert and Maryam. - George Hall (Australia)
Right ON! I am so happy for you. I have 4 kids of my own and they are my greatest joys. Take care and I hope all goes so smooth for him and mom. - Robert Anderson
Daddy Scobleizer!!!!!!!!!! First things first....when will he be signed up for Twitter and FF? - krystyl
Congrats!!! - eric susch
welcome Ryan, it's a beautiful world - Michele Costabile
Congrats!! - Olivia Lovag
Congrats to the Scoble family from South Africa! Welcome to the world @RSS - Shaun Trennery
Congrats, Robert! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations Robert, and welcome Ryan! - ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
Congratulations Robert and R.S.S.: "Hello World" Cheers! - Louis Trapani
warmest congratulations - Peter Holland
what a beautiful baby=)Congratulations=) - Candan Celik
Such a miracle and a blessing - Congratulations to you and Maryam and "big" brothers! - Marla Schulman
Congrats, Robert. Amazing pictures! - Jordi Soler
Congratulations to all of your family! Enjoy! - Ed Richardson
Congratulations ... enjoy! - Hitesh Parashar
Congratulations!!!! He's beautiful! Welcome little one! I'm proud to share a birthday with you! - Martha
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! Welcome to the world Ryan :-) - Rasmus Lauridsen
happy birthday BABY - ≤ M@RzI
Best congratulations!!!! :) - CantorJF
Congrat Robert. It is wonderful what this new media could do to share your joy! - Gianto Widianto
Congratulations! - Steve Garfield
به به . قدم نو رسیده مبارک مریم جان . خیلی نازه :) - RokhSaare
Congrats on the blessed event! Welcome to the world, Ryan - Jazz Baker
Congratulations! - Jim #teamFFrank
Congrats :) - Maryam Ardakani from FreshFeed
He was delivered by a Blue Man? - paul mooney
Congrats Robert. It's allways a special moment. I still have my child birth in my memory! - Rui
What a happy day! A healthy new Scoble and mom. - Dave Winer
آخي ، بچته ؟؟؟ مبارك باشه تو روز به اين عزيزي به دنيا اومده ، بت نميخوره بچه انقدري داشته باشي شيطون - lenin
My goodness, congratulations! - DGentry
Congrats! - Ivo Mortani
Congratulations!! and best wishes - Johni Fisher
congrats! - Il fu mass
Congratulations! I hope everyone's ok?! - Holger Eilhard
حاجي خانومت ايرانيه جدي ؟؟؟ پس خيلي مباركه ديگه - lenin
Congratulations, Scoble family! - scherbi: bottom dweller
wonderfull - Claudio - braciolanet from BuddyFeed
Congratulations to you and your family Robert! A very handsome baby boy! Cant wait to see more pictures! - TiffanyCarr
Congratulations, Robert. - motownmutt
congrats :) - £lham
مبارکه :) - خیزران
Congrats! - Roozbeh
Congrats to Robert and Maryam! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
WooHoo! My best to the whole family. I hope Maryam is getting some rest after all that hard work! - Robert Couture
Congrats to you and your fam, Robert :) - LANjackal
Ryan was born when the Berlin Marathon was finishing. Perhaps he'll be a long-distance runner. Congrats. - Carl Jacobsen
Congratulations to you and the wife, Robert! Job well done. I see he is gonna take after his Daddy! ;-0 ,hehe:-) - Duliece
One more congrats won't hurt, right? Thanks for sharing the pics. - Kevin Sablan
Congratulations :) - A35G
Congrats - Exciting & now the fun begins :-) - PXLated
Wishing you and yours the best on this wonderful day! Congratulations! - DJ Stevie Steve
Starting today. Sleep will be nothing more than a fond memory. :) Congrats. - Richard
Congrats! - Herb Hernandez from iPhone
Congrats! - Yusuf Ozan Taşdemir
Congrats Robert!! - Taehoon Kim
Congratulations! - Thomas Hawk
Congratulations to all! - malackey
fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - michele ficara 
Awe!! Congrats =) - Brodie Beta
Congratulazioni!! ^______^ - Andrea | amnesiak1978
congrats!! - clarita
Welcome Ryan! Congratulations Robert and family! - Tim Probst from iPhone
Congratulations!!! God bless.... - Bob DeMarco
Congrats! - Jason Williams from iPhone
Congratulations Robert, Maryam and Milan! All the best to the four of you. - Eiso Kant
Congratulations :-) - Jalada
Congrats! Enjoy. - Jim Peake
Congrats - Bee
Congratulations!! - Paolo Leonardi
Congratulations! - John (bird whisperer)
Congratulations. - Ashish
oooww wonderfulll :)) - Ucandepik
Well done, my son's name as well. - Robert Kenney
Congratulations - Caleb Scribner
Congrats - Manuel Mas
Congrats! Best wishes to you, Ryan and all your family! - Lenny Post
congrats ^_^ - Furkan Tunalı
Conga Rats! - Michael R. Bernstein
Wonderful! Enjoy! - Alan Morris
Absolutely wonderful. Welcome to the world Ryan! - Loren Heiny from iPhone
Congrats :) - Hasan Al Shehabi
Congratulations to both of you. - Roberto Bonini
Congratulations to everyone! He looks healthy! I am sure you must all be very happy! ;) - Altan Khendup
Congratulations! May your tribe ever increase in happiness, joy, and fulfilment. - trey pennington
Congrats! - Ben Parr
what would be ryan's reaction when he would read this post someday, so many folks who knew dad congratulating him! - testbeta
Congratulations! - Anne Bouey
hiya RSS! - Laura Norvig
Yah!! Congratulations. - Micah
Congratulations to the whole Scoble family! - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Congratulations to the whole family! Enjoy these most precious times. - Marylene Delbourg-Delphis
best wishes to all - Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
congrats Robert and Maryam - Kevin Tunis
Congratulations, Robert! - Sabri Küstür from FreshFeed
Wonderful. Best wishes to Ryan... - Mitchell Tsai
Congratulations to the whole family :) - Chris Saad
Congratulations - Samaneh
Congratulations. First picture on twitter! - Cindy Makonin
I just came to make sure you were getting a proper congratulations - Sherrie Belken
congrats;) - Elham
Congratulations to the Scobles! - Carlton Prest
congratulations, Robert and Maryam. - Valeria Maltoni
congrats! - Daniel Brusilovsky
WOW - what a miracle - congrats! - Mark Harai
Congratulations Robert & Maryam! - Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Congrats from Italy, Ryan! - Federico Bolsoman from iPhone
Congratulations Robert and sorry for delay, Best wishes - erfan
He is crying: "I want an iPhone". Felicitations! - William Mougayar
May he be blessed throughout his life! God bless you, Robert and Maryam! - Melanie Reed
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! - Greg Ness
congrats :) - erd
Congrats Robert & your family :) - Sampad Swain
what a beautiful little guy! congratulations! rock on! - B.L. Ochman
great day, congrats - imran
Wow congratulations to both you and Maryam you must be so proud :) - David Richardson from Android
Wow, Congratulations, Robert and Maryam!! Ryan looks beautiful.:-) - Cathryn Hrudicka
Congrats man. That's so awesome. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Happy Babbie Day! - Jack&Cleo
Congrats! I wish a long and healthy life. - Muammer Okumuş
Robert, you newest addition is too freaking adorable. I hope you and Maryam are doing well. Congratulations! Here's to a long, prosperous future! - Mike Nayyar
congrats to you and Maryam! And welcome, RSS! - Joshua Allen from fftogo
congrats!!! Welcome to Ryan - Dario Salvelli
Congratulations to you and Maryam! E benvenuto Ryan! - Marco Fabbri
Congrats! :) - Emmanuel Anumonwo
Congratulations! - mlazopoulou
Such auspicious times... Welcome, Ryan! - Red Label
O HAI, Ryan! Congratulations to Daddy and Mommy, too! - Ordinarybug Heather
قدم نو رسیده مبارک!congratulations - uɐſʃɐʌ uɐſ
Congrats Robert! Welcome Ryan! - Garin Kilpatrick
Awesome, Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome to the world Ryan. - Mitch Baldwin
Happy parenting! Congrats! - Natalie
Groovy + one geek on the planet - Yann Ropars
Congrats!!! Robert - Steve Chou
To the proud Papa.....Congratulations!! - Bonnie Foster
Congratulations Team Scoble. Best of good wishes to all of you. - Morrie Johnston
Congrats Robert and family!!! Welcome Ryan :) - buvanesh
congrats Robert! - Joshua Guffey
Congratulations! RS - Sean Kelly
Congrats :D - Emre Misvaklı
Congratulations. he's so cute :) - Armando Grati
Beautiful! - Ryan Sholin
Congratulations - Kreg Steppe
Congratulations! - Gordon Saunders
Congratulations! - Hamid Reza
Congrats Robert....How amny more before you have your baseball team :-) - Alex Marrow
Seriously, Best whishes.............God Bless...... - Alex Marrow
Mazal Tov! - Raanan Avidor
All the best! Fun Times!!!! - Jim Turner
congrads now the fun starts, beautiful baby - Debra Moore
congrads ! - ★ Soner Gönül
Congrats and Best Wishes! - Tracy Benham
Looks like the baby's first trip to the dentist - Steve Borgman
Welcome, Ryan! Congrats, Robert! - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thomas Hawk
My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr -
My 30,000th Photograh on Flickr
My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr The photo above represents my 30,000th photograph published to Flickr. It’s a milestone and part of my continuing goal to publish 1,000,000 photos to Flickr before I die. This photograph is from one of my favorite shoots. A shoot I did with my wife and children a ways back in this storm drain in Big Tujunga Canyon. - Thomas Hawk
@thomasHawk didn't you say you wouldn't use flickr after they were gits once long ago? - Prolific Programmer from IM
Congratulations, Thomas! By the way, that shot would be perfect in my Vanishing Points group... I'll add an invite to it on Flickr. - Kevin Trotman
Hasan, I did stop using Flickr for a while over some some censorship issues a while back. As you know I feel pretty strongly about censorship. I changed my mind though and couldn't really stay away. - Thomas Hawk
"My 30,000th Photograph on Flickr" way to go @thomasHawk. I remember reading yr 10^6 & thinking thats ambitious. Now the Q. In the back of my mind I've been thinking about "how do you a) backup online against flickr takedowns? b) manage & curate the images as times goes on: cost, time etc? - Peter Renshaw
Well mostly I back up my photos by using drobos as primary storage. I also keep another copy of my finished photos on hard drives off location. I upload pretty much the same photos to Flickr and Zooomr. So I've got two copies. Additionally, almost all of my flickr photos are fed into clustershot where they can be marketed for stock photography. I always upload original sized photographs... more... - Thomas Hawk
Veery nice one Thomas. Good job. :) - BraGiu
Congratulations, Thomas! 970K to go! - Alexander Arsky
Cool! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations, nice one! - ilya
Congratulations. Doesn't seem like that long since 20000. - James Myatt
Congrats Thomas! - Simon Wicks
Great shot!!! - Prakash
30,000, wow! Made me look. I'm only just past 20,000. Had no idea where I was. Need to pay attention to those landmarks. This is a wonderful shot, but then so many of yours are. You live to witness and share beauty. - Patricia F. Anderson
Awesome! - David Cook from fftogo
Congratulations, and a beautiful picture. Thanks again for sharing - Rob Kramer
That's a great photo, good work. - Patrick
good stuff - imran
500 a week! I feel slug-like. I'm so glad you do what you do with your talent at photography. Thank you for your inspiration and dedication to your craft, 4 children and spouse and a full time career aside. Very thought provoking and challenging. Congratulations on your milestone. - Matt Penning
Congrats on reaching 30,000! Your artwork is always interesting. - John (bird whisperer)
congrats Thomas! I always look at flickr each day to see what you have uploaded :) - Heather
Congrats!! - Arijit Das
Thomas Hawk
Iraqi shoe thrower released; says he was tortured - Yahoo! News -
Iraqi shoe thrower released; says he was tortured - Yahoo! News
"BAGHDAD – The Iraqi reporter who threw his shoes at former President George W. Bush in protest was freed from prison on Tuesday and, unrepentant, he harshly condemned the U.S. presence in his country and accused authorities of torturing him. Muntadhar al-Zeidi's stunning act of protest in December made him a hero for many in and outside Iraq. It struck a chord with millions in the Arab and Muslim worlds who have been captivated and angered by daily images of destruction and grieving since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. But nine months later, there was little public outpouring of support for him, a sign of how things have changed." - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet
ALAH ALAH الحرية و أخيرا للمنتظر - mustaphasma
Seems harsh to imprison him just for missing. - Patrick
a man in demand - imran
Patrick: *laugh* - Andrew C (✔)
Robert Scoble
Google Chrome has updated: my favorite browser by far.
just downloaded chrome 3 - looks great - hopefully it performs even better - Matt Ellsworth
Mr. Scoble, are you using Chrome on your Mac? - Eugene Teng
Eugene: not yet. Soon, hopefully. Until then Safari will do. - Robert Scoble
I have been using the Developer Release for Mac. I like it a lot. - Eugene Teng
it was sad good bye to firefox a while ago - imran
I've tried to go back to Firefox so I can use userscripts but I just can't stay away from the speed and slimness of Chrome. Everything looks and feels kindof off when I try anything else. - metalerik
I just updated. - Brent - Yes I am
I am currently running v4 dev channel and I can tell you it is even faster again than v3.0. Chrome absolutely rocks the speed! - travispuk
looking forward to when they have it for the Mac. - Thomas Hawk
Still says Chrome 3.0.x is up to date. Hmmmmmm - Roberto Bonini
Otto, v4 gives you add ons and bookmark sync, unfortunately not using Google Bookmarks. - travispuk from iPhone
Agreed with otto. Until there is plugins like Adblock it won't make me change full time. - Wei-Yen Tan from fftogo
Otto, your bookmarks will be stored in Google Docs if you are using version 4 sync. Google docs will become your bookmarks manager. - Eugene Teng
The extensions are coming to Chrome. Sample Extensions - - Eugene Teng
Palm Pre is to Apple iPhone as Goole Chrome is to Mozilla Firefox. Its all about the add-ons/Apps - Paul P Miller
Google Chrome is my favorite browser as well. - Deb Sivard
My default browser just got better. Nice. Keep at it Google-Chrome-folks! - Matt Penning
I switched to Chrome from Firefox full-time not long ago. I also had to switch from the dev channel to the beta one, but otherwise, I haven't looked back. I have to use Firefox for some specific things, like online banking, but Chrome's so much cleaner and faster than anything else. - James Myatt
Waiting for mac support. Comeon guys!! - Drew Lucas from iPhone
Phil Glockner
Rep Joe Wilson Getting the Stink-Eye
She's as cold as ice... - Eric - Final Countdown
If looks could... discredit your party with the populace... - Eric - Final Countdown
Do they have no shame. Oh yea that's right he's a republican. Do we expect anything more or less? - Seth Goldstein
I really loved Joe B. in that moment. He was simply disgusted. - Ayşe E.
It looks like Nancy Pelosi is about to smack someone in the back of the head like what the hell is wrong with you. - Eric - Final Countdown
If looks could kill - Joe Wilson would be a zombie right now. - AJ Kohn
i wonder what Obama is saying behind closed doors.... - ~C4Chaos
I'm surprised he didn't vaporize on the spot. - Karoli
I barely noticed the President's reaction because Nancy Pelosi was shooting arrows, make that stinger missiles over at unruly Joe Wilson. - Robin Bertelsen
Oh, I love that look! I have a friend from Hawaii and that's what she'd call it as well - The Stink Eye.LOL - Jesse P. Luna
Great photo - Chris A. Hanousek
In this picture: Biden: "I'm disgusted." Obama: "How dare you." Pelosi: "Jackals will slake their thirst on your entrails before dawn." - Stephen Mack
*saves image as JoeWilsonIsToast.jpg* - Big Joe Silenced
joe assured his re-election - imran
Stephen, re: Pelosi. Maybe. But she only seems to be tough when it comes to members of her own party. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Why does Pelosi look surprised. O wait. -
You can almost see Pelosi's face turn white... anger, shock, surprise dismay, all in one look. she should have been an actress she can express so much with one look - Tate
haha, Stephen, nice caption. - Chieze Okoye
a collective 'WTF?' moment. The rare and deadly '6 Stink Eye Gaze of Death' makes it's debut. - Morgan, start at 1:12 - Pelosi plots execution under breath at 1:35 - Christopher Galtenberg
Great picture. A lesson in leadership: Joe's constituents deserve representation, not a mimic. - E-Advocate Network
Christopher, great vid, but I noticed that the poster is super right wing and is (somehow) trying to use it as a condemnation of the president and his speech. GUH-WHAT? They (and the commenters in the heavily moderated comments) took the best parts of the speech and are trying to say this is why the President and this plan is wrong?? Reality Distortion Field in full effect. - Chieze Okoye
Yeah, all the other videos had the same lunatics commenting -- same people, too -- I swear there are like 20K-100K people representing the entire nutso right online. Let's hope. - Christopher Galtenberg
April Buchheit
With all the hubbub about Obama's back-to-school speech, I wonder what people would say about JFK's famous line, "Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country" if it were uttered today, by our current president.
You know, it would be cool if some history buff dug up what critics actually did say about that line back then. - Bruce Lewis
I think no matter what Obama says, some people somewhere will find offense. - April Buchheit
The thing that bugs me is that it doesn't take much to infuriate certain groups of people especially during the current administration. I certainly don't recall people getting their panties in a bunch over stuff GWB has said about kids needing to stay in school or OB/Gyn's not being able to give their love to women (or something along those lines). - April Buchheit
Obviously it was different people getting upset about Bush, but anyone that high profile will attract a lot of criticism. - Paul Buchheit
I wrote "If you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country" on my board following the speech. I thought it was the most powerful thing Obama said today to my kids. So many of the inner city children that I teach just give up. It gets too hard. Life is hard! Don't give up. I try to teach that every day - now I have the president's words to guide me. - Marci Golub
Paul: Yeah, I know, but it just didn't seem like it was getting as much of the limelight as now. I guess maybe it wasn't as sensational? Perhaps, now, certain news outlets/interest groups are fanning the flame? - April Buchheit
It depends where you get your news. I haven't heard anything about it except from you :) - Paul Buchheit
Paul: I suppose I should just shut my piehole, then. :P - April Buchheit
Or stop reading reddit for a bit... - Paul Buchheit
you haven't heard about this anywhere else Paul???? surely you jest. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Paul: Touche! - April Buchheit
Well, I was at burning man for 5 days and not exactly reading the news... :) In general though, news is noise. - Paul Buchheit
but friend updates are....? ;) - Marshall Kirkpatrick
I agree that whatever "outrage" is probably silly though, but I expect a lot of silly outrage -- what else can they do? - Paul Buchheit
You guys are so cute. - τorƍue
btw, mentions the speech, but I don't see any mention of controversy (not that I've read any of the articles). - Paul Buchheit was full of discussion of it yesterday and over the days before. school districts all over the country debated showing it, parents kept their kids home from school, etc. It was a pretty big deal. I don't mean to give you a hard time about it Paul, I was just surprised and am a believer in following the news to some degree. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
I thought the speech was pretty pointless. He didn't say anything that we haven't been told by our teachers for the past 8 years. (Stay in school. Work hard. Don't give up.) Hardly worth taking out one of our classes for. That's just my opinion, though. - Alex
You're probably right Marshall. I still have very mixed feelings about the news though -- I think there's a tendency to get caught up in the daily drama and miss the big picture. - Paul Buchheit
I haven't seen it yet but my wife described it to me and it sounded really good. Made me think all the more about how remarkable it is that we have a President who was raised by a single mother. The way my wife described it sounded like it could have really spoken to some of the kids most at risk of not staying in school. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
If it causes more people to watch the speech, then perhaps the outrage will work to Obama's favor. All politics aside, I really like what Obama's background says about our country -- I would much rather have a president who came from "nowhere" than one whose father was also president. - Paul Buchheit
Paul: I agree. That's why I'll be a shoo-in when I run for President. :) Not only did I come from nowhere, I was born in a third world country known for its garbage mountain. -- Ok, I know I don't qualify being that I'm a 'ferner,' but it worked for Obama, right? ;) - April Buchheit
April, I don't think your kind is allowed to be president. - Paul Buchheit
April: just get some dinky Pacific Island state to make up a birth certificate for you, and you can be President. - Gabe
I never like that saying anyway. Nationalism is so evil. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
I think that there is a lot more commentary now than 50 years ago, because there are several 24 hour news tv channels, not to mention their websites, and the bazillions of political bloggers. What is interesting is that so many of them focus on the same inane details, like the use of the word "stupidly", where in theory, we could have a much more diverse amount of information on the news. However, it is much easier to simply comment on something than to actually do research. - Robert Felty
Yesterday morning, I'd say nothing because it's not a good parallel. I'm a bit bummed that schools actually opted out. I'm not an "Obama supporter," but I don't like the anger games. It's unhealthy. - Jason Nunnelley
Thomas Hawk
Israeli Government Ads Warn Against Marrying Non-Jews | World | AlterNet -
Israeli Government Ads Warn Against Marrying Non-Jews | World | AlterNet
"The Israeli government has launched a television and Internet advertising campaign urging Israelis to inform on Jewish friends and relatives abroad who may be in danger of marrying non-Jews. The advertisements, employing what the Israeli media described as "scare tactics," are designed to stop assimilation through intermarriage among young Diaspora Jews by encouraging their move to Israel. The campaign, which cost $800,000, was created in response to reports that half of all Jews outside Israel marry non-Jews. It is just one of several initiatives by the Israeli state and private organizations to try to increase the size of Israel's Jewish population. According to one ad, voiced over by one of the country's leading news anchors, assimilation is "a strategic national threat," warning: "More than 50 percent of Diaspora youth assimilate and are lost to us."" - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet
Sounds like hollywood movie plot - imran
Thomas Hawk
A Big Fake Interview Between Charlie Sheen and President Obama **This is a FAKE Interveiw** It never actually happened. -
A Big Fake Interview Between Charlie Sheen and President Obama **This is a FAKE Interveiw** It never actually happened.
Actor Charlie Sheen gets 20 minutes of President Obama's time and grills him about 9/11 conspiracy theories. Here's the fake interview. - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet
I bet Charlie never gets a second chance for a 20 minute interview with the President. - Thomas Hawk
That's almost embarrassing. - Spencer
LOL... Charlie. Didn't Obama see Malkovich, Malkovich? - Adrian
Oh my. I'll have to read that later but what I did read makes me think that this is 20 of our Presidents time we will never get back. - ChiliMac
Please see CW's comment. This is a fictional transcript. Charlie Sheen has never met with President Obama. When I was reading it, my reaction was that there was zero chance this was an actual transcript of spoken words. - Stephen Mack
NOT REAL! See last line: "didn't actually happen" (EDIT: heh, now I just look shrill -- but two people had comments before this comment, one expressing amazement, the other asking if this was real. Those two comments are now deleted by the commenter.) Thomas, please edit the first comment and/or subject to indicate this is a work of fiction. - Stephen Mack
@Thomas: I'd like to echo what the others have said. Jones posted this as a publicity stunt and didn't even include the "DISCLAIMER: THIS DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN" note until much later today, and even now he buries it in the footer. Frankly it makes me mad that his stunt "worked" .. - Anthony Citrano
I like how there was a graphical ad mid way through that says: "Ammunition supplies are low! Food is next! Click here!" - damn nut jobs.... - Nicķ
this is the site: with such bon mots as: "Three years of a drought in California combined with “tree hugger” politics leave dust fields where crops once grew." - Nicķ
That would have been the last time Charlie Sheen interviews Obama. :) - Louis Gray
FICTION ALERT FICTION ALERT FICTION ALERT! Repeating again, just in case: This is just fiction. Last line of article: "Hasn't happened." Article shows a picture of Charlie Sheen writing (MAKING UP) the transcript. Thomas, please modify subject and first post. (Louis, I'm assuming your use of the subjunctive means you know it's fake.) - Stephen Mack
Fake. Boo. - Matt Cutts
Doh!!!! - ChiliMac
This is a kind of proof that people will readily believe what they WANT to believe. Take what the gov't says with a grain of salt. Take what conspiracy whacko's say with a pound. - John
Reading the comments on that thread -- it may say something about the BS detection skills of some of those who side with the conspiracy theorists, because so many people there seemed to think this was a real transcript. C'mon. Anyone who has ever heard any real interview with a president should be able to detect that the speaking patterns in this "transcript" did not sound natural or real. - Stephen Mack
Stephen - yes, I edited my comment after tweeting and deleting. :) - Louis Gray
hahaha, it's a fake? I had no idea actually. Amazing! - Thomas Hawk
I updated the post above to indicate that it's bogus. - Thomas Hawk
Thanks, Thomas, although I don't know if "apparently" is strong enough since the author has indicated it's 100% fictional. - Stephen Mack
ok, removed the apparently part. :) - Thomas Hawk
Thanks Thomas :) Now, now everyone knows this is fake, we can begin a 1200+ comment discussion about the merits or lack thereof of Charlie's arguments. - Stephen Mack
Perhaps those digging for “truth” about 9-11 could use one more revelation: “with friends like Alex Jones, we don't need enemies.” The assface crashed an event I was at a few years ago - he's a real class act. - Anthony Citrano
[Also Thomas, your initial comment refers to it as a "transcript" - which it is not.] - Anthony Citrano
Ok, fixed that too. ;) - Thomas Hawk
good script for a never happened conversation! i hope someday sheen can ask these questions directly to the president or maybe even a sign from obama that he read the script and he would take it into consideration would be a good start! (it's too obvious that i'm not an american isn't it?) - maliforever
the bigger conspiracy to me is why there is a character called Bud Fox in my father's copy of Wall Street 2, and yet he isn't officially signed yet for the movie. Charlie makes no secret of his politics, but no conservative takes Alex Jones seriously. it is true however that Sheen is a Troofer and would be right at home in a friendfeed nuthouse. - NoahDavidSimon
Thomas, ha ha ha ha! Love the new description updates :) Thanks for making it clear. - Stephen Mack
Saudi driving lic and Passports were also recovered from Pentagon site. - imran
Robert Scoble
I'm showing Rackspace Partners these things: Seesmic Desktop; Dopplr; Upcoming; Feedly; Yelp; FriendFeed. What else should I show?
I will also have FriendFeed on the screen, so your answers will be shown to everyone. - Robert Scoble
LazyFeed? Cotweet? TweetDeck? - Akiva - Melissa / (*cough* self-promotion) - Jalada
Posterous - That's So CAJ!
Posterous. - Inside Alaska
Akiva: Cotweet would be cool. I'm more familiar with TweetRiver. Posterous is a good one! - Robert Scoble
Facebook... he he he... don't be silly! - travispuk
Wow, this teaches me to pay more attention to bios: Jalada, I had no idea you were behind Twitterfall. It was used constantly at Gnomedex by everyone. - Akiva
If you're showing seesmic desktop, you should show them seesmic web, as well - jyamasaki
Robert, Rochelle swears by Cotweet. It has an excellent UI and is quite configurable. Very iPhone-like in style. - Akiva
Akiva: Really? That's awesome :-) yeah, I'm the 'lead' developer, there's just two of us, we're CompSci students together at York in the UK. - Jalada
Posterous. TweetDeck. - Jeff Harbert
Jalada, yep. We had it on the main screen between presentations tracking #gnomedex (of course!). Great work! - Akiva
Akiva: Thank you :-) - Jalada
Robert, maybe highlight the coming social media features of Google Reader? - Akiva
Yeah, I'm showing off Google Reader too. - Robert Scoble
The social aspect of Google Reader, Tweetie (Mac and iPhone, whichever is available), - Sweyn Venderbush
Github - Jesse Stay
Stack Overflow - Jesse Stay
linkedin - imran
What about - Rob Fahrni
I like for hosted subversion - Jesse Stay
Screenjelly, neat stuff - Marco
Robert, what are your current Top 6 social web tools? - Jeff Harbert
I've heard big things about Twitter - Johnny
Jeff: they've all been mentioned in this thread! :-) - Robert Scoble
Johnny: that company might go somewhere someday. :-) - Robert Scoble
Yoono for aggregating more than just Twitter and Facebook, GetSatisfaction for customer support, CoTweet for Twitter CRM. - Todd Pringle
StockTwits Desktop. - Dominic Jones
Hey Robert, I have a $100/mo Rackspace Cloud site, but I'm just a small blog and really can't justify spending that a month, so I'm trying to sell "chunks" of my site starting at $9.95/mo to others who are in similarly in my shoes. I'm doing it as perhaps a business opportunity, but also as a way to stay with the service and not go back to a shared managed host. I wonder how I can market this? - Stephen Pickering - petar vucetin
CloudContacts - esp. considering I use Rackspace! - Allen Stern
Uservoice - Steve Lynch from twhirl
+1 for StackOverflow, as well. Most useful forums ever. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
Picnik. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
foursquare? - ann glenn
smallaa - share different things with different facebook friends based on common interests. - Tim Lai
Brightkite ? - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
he asks the stupidest questions and he gets range of response !! what does that tell us ? - Peter Dawson
Robert :Friends Messenger ,,, looking for a US partner ,as we are working on a SKYPE integration and an OUTLOOK solution as well ,we are at Amazon now and you can bring us home :-)) - Johni Fisher ? - Ted Roden
Peter: the stupid questions always get the best answers! :-) - Robert Scoble
Allen: that reminds me, got a crapload of business cards to send you. I love CloudContacts. - Robert Scoble
its not questions or answers, its influence on people ! - imran
Robert: Alex Gomez contacted me few times but we couldnt close a deal maybe now we can move - Johni Fisher
sure robert - send em over - thanks for the love! - Allen Stern ? I hear it is cool but I don;t know how to use it. - mark taylor
If you're going to show CoTweet and Seesmic, you definitely should show TweetDeck and HootSuite. It might also be a good idea to show some of the URL shorteners like - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Posterous - Alan Morris from iPhone
Wordpress - polou/indigo_bow
Hootsuite. Posterous. - Gus
The mighty mighty she is key for pulling it all together - Robert Higgins
The new lady on the block from Google pubsubhub - Robert Higgins
SocialToo - Jesse Stay
Pixelpipe ist gut - Brett Butterfield
Google Voice or Foursquare - 77Agency
I agree - Posterous and LazyFeed... - Robyn Hawk
Posterous with the caveat that it has potential to become much more than it is now. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
simply tweet and buddyfeed - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
I have to save this entire list. How does anyone keep track of them all? - Kirste Mitchell
social|median - Kirste Mitchell
Then & Now
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Happy Anniversary! - Parth Awasthi
Happy Anniversary! (that white dress is awesome) - RAPatton
All the best to a lovely couple. Happy Anniversary Mrsth and Mrth! - Carlos Ayala
@ Rob- one of his favs james bond dresses-cut well below the end of the frame! Disclaimer- The engagement photo is prior to the 5D days, & the recent shot is iphone. - Mrsth
Happy anniversary! The two of you look even happier in the "Now" photo. :) - Stephen Mack
Happy Anniversary to you both! - Andrew Terry
happy anniversary, :) - chaz2b
Awesome! Happy Anniversary! - Josh Haley
Happy Anniversary guys! :) - Simon Wicks
Happy Anniversary ^__^ - Abhishek
Great looking couple!! :) Cheers!! - Susan Beebe
13 years. :) - Thomas Hawk
Happy Anniversary! - Herb Hernandez
Congrats, you two. - Derrick
Yes Congrats U Lucky LoveBirds!!******** ;)) - Billy Warhol
Congrats you two - Miss you guys, need to come up and give you a ring when I'm in SF. Wishing you two another happy 13 years and then some!! - Look at that baby face in the left shot.. ;-) - Randy Carranza
@Randy- That's what I get for marrying a younger man ;)Our guestroom is always available. - Mrsth
Congratulations to you both! - Kreg Steppe
That's awesome, a real feat these days, and you both look very happy. - Dave Roth
O.k so after we dined at the Ritz on Saturday, we are low keying at home. Since TH is not the champagne type, i only chill a half bottle of what I think is a old bottle guest pawned off on us from one of Christmas party- 1985 Schramsberg Cremant Demi-Sec. We both enjoyed it so much, I decide to google where I can get more. 1st search turns up that the Bush White house served it for the Prime Minister of Hungry in 1990. Good to see they still hold up after all this time. - Mrsth
Happy Anniversary you two! - Shey
Happy Anniversary, Thomas! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Happy Anniversary!!! - Bee
Congratulations, guys - James Myatt
hey thanks all. - Thomas Hawk
Happy anniversary! You all look so happy, Very cool. :D - ChiliMac
Happy anniversary! You guys look fantastic... Thanks for sharing. - Mitchell Tsai
Happy Anniversary :) - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Happy Anniversary to You! - Absentee
Celebration of love, trust, partnership, tolerance and tenacity. The order varies for any given year. - imran
Eric Geller
I have Google Wave now. It's awesome and I love it. But then again, I'm a Google fanboy. Anyone want to share their Google Wave usernames so we can add each other to our contact lists?
Please invite me. gattoo @ gmail dot com - ThinkEzy
can you invite others ? I'd appreciate it if you could invite me too: shayanlinux [-at-] gmail [-d.o.t-] com - Shayanlinux
hey how do i get wave ? am a fanboy too - do i have to get an invite ? - viki saigal
i went to the site and all ti says is Google Wave will be available later this sure you have it or are you yankin our chain? - viki saigal
please invite macmegasite at gmail dot com - Mike Hussein Cohen
Please invite me at damianovukotic at gmail com - Damiano
If you can invite others, I'd love to get an invite at hpathiraja at gmail dot com - Hasitha from iPod
can't agree more with pirillo, but gina had a glimpse - adam garrett
To all asking about invites: I have none. There is currently no way to do that. Also, viki saigal: I have it and can post a screenshot if you'd like. It's the Developer Preview. - Eric Geller
Screenshot of Google Wave - - Eric Geller
Hi Eric, add me to cesarsanchez at wavesandbox dot com - Cesar Sanchez
invite me2 from China, susozhang AT,thx a lot - 阿石
Guys: I will try to invite as many of you as I can once Google turns on that functionality. - Eric Geller
Steve Rubel was looking for others on Tues: - metalerik
Thanks, I just posted over there. - Eric Geller
thats so cool you lucky dude - viki saigal
Wave is a muddle pretending to organize the unorganisable. - tomartomartini
Love an invite to Google Wave. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Kol: You'll definitely be on my list, Mr. FriendFeed. :) - Eric Geller
Hehe, thank you, Eric. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Just have Google Wave access today. You can add me to your conversations... - Guy Vander Heyden
How is everyone getting access? I though initial invites were due out in September? - Kol Tregaskes
I believe that was for the general preview. This is the developer preview. - Eric Geller
Kol, just like in nearly all Google betas, there are invites to be had. I was in on Gmail months before any of my friends were. - Akiva
Ah, I registered on Google Wave the day it was revealed, though I'm pretty doubtful to be one of the first 100k. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I am so jealous. - Lindsay
I doubt I will have enough invites to get you all in, at least not in the first round. But I'll invite people in the order you post here. - Eric Geller
If you can, right here Eric. Thanks! - Andrew Leahey
Andrew: You're on my list. :) - Eric Geller
Many thanks good sir :] - Andrew Leahey
Lucky you! - Peter from iPhone
I can't wait. Seems I'm not alone! - Alfonso Pace from iPhone would love to hook up! - Richard Kastelein
imran3000 at gmail dot com, thanks - imran
Sorry for the late response, but I've added the two of you who posted your Wave IDs here. Hopefully more of you will get your invites soon! - Eric Geller
invite me please.... rail.shiyapov @ gmail dot com , thx - rail
please add me too... rudwolf @ gmail dot com - PMK
Please invite me vinod1980 [AT] - vinod
Do you know how to send invites?, I have my wave account already, but can't find how to send invites. - Jorge Avila
I want also.. can someone invite me? please... - loren more... - Rob Adair
Send me an invite, really want to try it out! - Matt Alexander
Wow! You really have it, that is so cool. I would be really excited if you added me. Have fun waving! - Hubrid Noxx
Robert Scoble
@glfceo I am not on linked in. Will get Apture to add my other stuff. Thanks!
@ Robert, Interesting: Reason for not being on linkedin? - imran
Paul Buchheit
Does the organization accommodate the individual, or does the individual accommodate the organization?
Depends on the value of each -- who needs the other more? - Eric Borisch
Both, if the organization is nice. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Depends on the organization. The company I work for is very accommodating to the individual; other jobs in the past were not. When the organization is not accommodating most individuals either bent to their will or left the organization. - FFing Enigma
If it's a good fit, a little of both, and the resulting organization is more effective. If one or the other is inflexible, it's a bad match and both need to recognize it ASAP. - Ken Sheppardson
Paul - Random thought or FB needs to re-think your workspace ?? - Charlie Anzman
I guess a lot of folks here are concerned about how one organization accommodates another organization. ;) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Both must adapt - if the organization is not enriched, and if the individual is not benefited, the relationship withers - Aaman (Clone of FF)
both ! - Nayan
depends on the role of individual - imran
This is more of a thinking question than an answering question... - Paul Buchheit
Hahaha!! Maybe FF should let posters turn comments "off" :) - Carter ♥ JS
Comments are good Carter -- I just wanted to point out that this is not a question that has a general answer. - Paul Buchheit
I think FB is ok with taking pets to work.... Initially, the individual accommodates the organization; If the individual is influential and supported, the individual can change behaviors of folks, leading to changed attitudes, leading to changed culture, leading to an organization that is accommodating to needs to all individuals. - Dickey Singh
Funny coincidence, talking about organizations. I actually wrote a thesis paper for my MBA program about "Facebook as a Complex Adaptive System". I'll have to post that on the blog at some point. Anyway, it's a really interesting way to think about companies like Google and Facebook. - Carter ♥ JS
Organizations are made of people aren't they? - Todd Hoff
Ideally both, as in any successful relatioship. However, in practice it is usually the individual who is more accomodating, by choice or perhaps based on fear of job loss. - Janice from fftogo
second option - Elmira Gazizova
It depends on whether m1v1 is greater than m2v2. (i.e. the size of the company and its relatively complacency versus the will and energy of the individual). - DGentry
Personally dun think there is a simple answer to this. Depends on the stage of life of the individuals and his/her needs. Single or family, etc. - Lim, Kok Kim
if you own the organisation it is a trivial question. - abdellah
its the organization accomodate the individual. nothing is absolutely 100% of course but it's more this way than other way around. this way you maintain change and adaptability as well.. it's like a key IE philosphy, you design the work for the worker, not the worker for the work. - ugurarcan
Often, it depends on the percentage equity you hold. - Louis Gray
@louis you make me smile :) - abdellah
Customers don't know what they really want. - Amit Morson
Both. There has to be some flexibility for both to make reasonable adjustments. - thegeniusfiles
abdellah: +1 - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Depends on the personality. ;) - Clare Dibble
abdellah, I would argue that it is most, not least, critical to you if you "own" the organization. Although I guess it depends on what you mean by critical. - Clare Dibble
This topic is deeply fascinating to me personally. In my thesis I introduced ENTs (Emergent Node Tree structures) to model groups in noncooperative game theory, as I thought the cooperative game theory model didn't capture the full range of possibilities. I recently started reading _Genetic and Cultural Evolution of Cooperation_ which I'm finding very interesting. - Ruchira S. Datta
Big global organizations and states enable social networks and individual freedom... And, structures of state and big organizations have originated from client relationships.. - Vlad Hrouda
The Organization depend on the Individual to a certain extent. Some individuals can easily be replaced ;) The Individual depends heavily on the Organization if they want to be able to make a contribution toward success. Am i wrong? I guess my point is that Individuals are more vulnerable than the Organization as a whole. I guess for some true innovation to take place you need to connect the two. Isn't that the role of the Manager ;) - Jan Friman
Why are you asking? :) Things work best when an individual and organization are compatible with each other. An organization is going to attract certain types of individuals, and an individual is going to be attracted to certain types of organizations. I've been involved in two situations (so far) in which my company was bought by another company. While I've had to learn new things because of the way the acquiring organization operated, in the end it all worked out for the best. - John E. Bredehoft
The organization changes the individual and vice versa. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
All depends. I unfortunately witnessed a situation where each accommodated the other, and then the organization reneged. When it's both accommodating willingly, anything is possible. - Rob Schieber
In terms of "toeing the line", I think the individual accommodates the business; "you will submit your timesheets by date X", "you will use Microsoft Office", etc. - Andrew Terry
Paul Buchheit
(Not a phone number except possibly by coincidence. Please don't call.) - Bruce Lewis
Its a Wisconsin number - Joe Hall
Heh. That's why you shouldn't put a postbox where a searchbox usually goes. ;) - Chris Messina
totally, call - acedanger
It's not a phone number (or at least it's not a phone number to me). Please don't call. - Paul Buchheit
The actual amount of the fb deal? - Jim Norris
Whose number is it? - Liza + = ?
well, mayb a revised deal of the friendfeed buyout by facebook - Gtp19
I am curious - Liza + = ?
My bad its not a Wisconsin number, infact its not a phone number at all the 420 aea code doesn't exist anymore - Joe Hall
Joe, you called it - Liza + = ?
sure is a hefty number - Gtp19
Since I had the first comment (stays visible), I edited it to tell people not to call. - Bruce Lewis
Paul's password to his bank account :-) - Shakeel Mahate
$4,207,869,677 - Chris Messina
Number of friendfeed users - Shakeel Mahate
Total number of entries in ff database - Shakeel Mahate
When I copy/ paste that number into Garageband, it plays Revolution Number 9 - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
$42,078,696.77 -- how about that? - Jim #teamFFrank
Morton, did not know wolframalpha was still around. - Liza + = ?
I doubt it's money, that's not Paul's style (and surely wouldn't be legal). It'll be fun to watch this comment threat. I'm crap with number games. - Carter ♥ JS
Another puzzle from Paul, this is why friendfeed is fun. - Ashish
A social security number? - Akiva
Social security number has 9 digit limit. - Ashish
Guys, it's not a hard puzzle. I got it. - Bruce Lewis
well, it may not be a $ number... but if it were...! - Jim #teamFFrank
Don't overthink it and you'll get it. - Bruce Lewis
Er, actually it does take a certain amount of geekiness to get it, but it's the kind of geekiness you'd expect. - Bruce Lewis
I think I got it! Addition? - Liza + = ?
gah! Bruce, you're killin' me here! - Jim #teamFFrank
Liza, is Paul mainly known as a math geek, or some other kind of geek? - Bruce Lewis
lol, paul shud be having some fun reading the comments - Gtp19
I have to go take care of some things now, but I know other people will get it. It's cute. - Bruce Lewis
got it - Vishy
So if we get it we're not supposed to tell? - Vlad Bobleanta
Well, it doesn't validate as any government issued ID#... :P - Tanath
The new facebook moto. The number of people you want to connect to deliver on the promise of connecting the planet. - Edwin Khodabakchian
I'm guessing it's something FriendFeed database-related - Eric Florenzano
what is the # of FF users? - I mean posts/entries/items :-) - Chris Heath
FriendFeed is the first social network to reach 4 billion users ;) - Paul Buchheit
Only 4 billion? C'mon... I'm disappointed. Deleting my account now. :D - Vlad Bobleanta
YIKES - anna sauce
Yet only 1K or so "addicts" via Scoble's thread - anna sauce
Vlad, the other 1/3 of the world don't have access to a computer. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
That shouldn't stop them from having an account. Nothing should. - Vlad Bobleanta
Wow Paul. That is amazing. - Yolanda
Yolanda: He was being sarcastic :) - Eric Florenzano
Is he?? How much does facebook have 2billion? - Sherif Mansour
sorry, forgot to add *eyeroll* - Yolanda
Sherif, ~300 million - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Nobody has even a billion. Think about it, there are around 6.5 billion people in the world. - Eric Florenzano
Jimminy, in that case there is no way FF has 4 billion?! - Sherif Mansour
Bruce, come on and spill the beans! - Friar Will
It's hard to verify any of our hypotheses since FriendFeed uses nonsequential identifiers for everything. Can't really deconstruct the uuid to see what number it is. - Eric Florenzano
420 - 786 - ??? - imran
paul, didn't you do this a month or two ago? and it was the number of database entries for items/entries? - Chris Heath
Non-programmers do not need to feel like idiots here. Programmers do. :-) - Bruce Lewis
grrr! I'm not a programmer and I still feel like an idiot. It's some sort of code. Each number means something else. - Jim #teamFFrank
Ah, got it. That's cheeky, Paul. - Carter ♥ JS
@Carter Rabasa care to share?! - Sherif Mansour
Uhh... is that bad etiquette? I'll let Paul do the big "reveal". - Carter ♥ JS
4276989964 - NaHi from
Btw, you don't need to be a programmer. Spend time do graphic design or working with CSS? You could get this! - Carter ♥ JS
Carter: Good hint. Hiroshi: Awesome! - Bruce Lewis
-87097619 - Jim Norris
0xFACEFEED - amirite? :) - Morton Fox
Oh Morton.... - Carter ♥ JS
Hah! - Eric Borisch
oh for pete's sake! - Jim #teamFFrank
*groan* - Michael McKean
pure geek. - Jim #teamFFrank
it really should be called that - MG Siegler
Haha! We'll see. - Anne Bouey
Google can do the conversion. Search for "4207869677 in hex" - Morton Fox
wolframalpha could do it... if you put 'hex' into the query - Chris Heath
4276989964 is interesting too ;) -Hiroshi: +1 - Vlad Bobleanta
hahaha - Friar Will
i think paul got pissed off over something and pressed some numbers to vent...wondering wat pissed him off ;-) - Gtp19
Ok, so you have our attention now... - Glenn Slaven from NoiseRiver
667269656E6466616365 -- heh. Goodnight! - Jim #teamFFrank
275766947196940 - Bruce Lewis
Bruce: Yup. That too. - Vlad Bobleanta
11111010110011101111111011101101 - Chris Messina
4277009102 - Charles Ying
hmmmm, for real or just being funny? - Keith - @tsudo
Number of users who complained that Facebook acquired Friendfeed, added up across all alternate universes. - Philipp Lenssen
70 117 110 110 121 32 58 45 41 - Willem (@wim66) ☠
Bank account you expect to get wire from FB ? - Jacque
FriendFeed 181202413 to Facebook. Some here claim this was a 195944173, but I am not among them. I think it is great, and will help bring this technology to a whole new 1554098974 level. - DGentry
Has anyone asked Jeeves? - Joe Dawson
+2 DGentry! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
number of records contained in FriendFeed database ? (sorry, I need more coffee & math skillz) - Susan Beebe
Paul's Company ID # @ Facebook - AJ Batac
And don't forget your towel. It will be most useful after a proper 4207869677 - Those can be pretty messy at times. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm with jvjannotti. $42,078,696.77 :-). The hex part is purely a coincidence. - Ken Sheppardson
Adapting a quote from Douglas Adams, "I may be a pretty sad person, but I don't make jokes in base 16" - Victor Ganata
Morton wasn't kidding.... In hex it does indeed come out as Facefeed - Roberto Bonini
I for one welcome our new 4207869677 overlords! - travispuk
I love how when you do a GOOG search for it, "4207869677 in hex", this post comes up as the search result, after the answer is given... nice! - travispuk
haha got it in 2 minutes.. nice! - Paul Stamatiou
FACEFEEEEEEEEEEEEED :) Feed my face - sounds like a new restaurant or something! LOL :D - Susan Beebe
I'm a programmer, yet I couldn't figure out the answer on my own. How did you guys think of just converting it to hex? lol - James Rishabh Mishra
here's a session log after reading "you're idiot". just brute-forcing :) : (idiot tried to divide a prime) - NaHi from
Rishabh, looking at your extensive creativity with the "bitter" post, I think your mind probably wandered through too many possibilities. The first things to pop into my mind were simple/obvious codes. - Bruce Lewis
+1 Travis! (SEO method 4532145321) - Charlie Anzman
Bruce: Thanks for the compliment. We all think differently, I guess. :) - James Rishabh Mishra
Robert Scoble
Did FriendFeed sell after seeing Facebook Lite? That's VERY interesting and answers a few of the troubles I am having with Facebook.
Paul said he did not know FB lite before - K.D.
your guess is as good as mine - Lipanantsi
good conjecture... guess we'll find out soon. - Nathan Chase
It's also why I'm taking a wait and see approach and not listening to any of the "jump" posts - Jesse Stay
NO I am sure they are selling because wave is coming, why should they sell to FB if FB is currently working on mini FF clone akka FB lite? - abdellah
I wouldn't be surprised if an 'open-garden' version of Facebook arises from the foundation of FB Lite, and that version will be very similar to Friendfeed. - Mo Kargas
Alex: it's 8:07 a.m. here in San Antonio, Texas. - Robert Scoble
I don't know where I stand on this, because while I don't use FF alot, I appreciate it. But I loathe FB as it slides into MySpace-ity. - Trine Curtis
I agree with Trine there... I stopped using FB a while ago.. It was nothing more than a waste of time. At least with Twitter/FF it's useful interactions, most of the time. FB Lite looks interesting, but Facebook already lost me. - Jared Quinn
just to add to what I said before, I think (mean speculating) the the new Google product that the executive Google told @robert S, may be a new Greader more social oriented, so let suppose that Greader change UI for a better (sharing+like) facility, what would happen? - abdellah
Claude: Facebook is now a search engine. I disagree with you there. Mirco: sorry, $50 million isn't that much, I know Paul was hoping for a lot more when he started the company. In fact, Paul told me several times he wasn't interested in selling and wanted to go all the way and build an engineering-friendly environment. - Robert Scoble
@abdellah Doesn't Google Reader already have a fairly decent like, comment, and sharing facility? It seems fairly complete to me aside from the fact that it does seem to gather social media reactions and display them inline. But neither does Friendfeed. - Jim Reverend from email
So you are saying he sold FF for whatever he could get before getting wiped out by a competing product? Hmm. Kinda makes me wish we could have seen the competing product slug it out instead. - Trine Curtis
@jim, it is all about the perception that the UI may induce, for the moment Greader is just like any FeedReader, with some social feature enhancement, let think about a new design that bring all the social feature in the top of the scene reither then trying to hide them. a better UI should be a Thread based one) like in FF, at Greader it is a feed oriented one.just question (how long is the shared like conversation you have in Greader), at the best I will say a feed commented by ome people that all. - abdellah
@abdellah I see what you're saying. And you're right, Google Reader could do well with a new UI that really highlights the sharing and social aspects that an online Feed Aggregator is really made for. - Jim Reverend
Esp. for emerging markets, where many have no laptops but everyone has a mobile, FB Lite is brilliant move. It also moves Twitter closer to the dumb pipe many of us have been using it as w/FF (soon FB?!) being our primary aggregation of our stream. Twitter becomes a pure channel that lot of people use but noone ever goes to. But re Google, picture this - they (finally, now) pick up... more... - Thom Kennon
Facebook will destroy friendfeed, most likely, :( - imran
Facebook Lite may be just a version of Facebook for bandwidth saving: It's quite possible: not only users with slow internet connections got poor Facebook-browsing experience, but also Facebook itself spends lots of money on abroad traffic and would gladly shrink these expenses. - Pavlo Zahozhenko
FBlite does seem to lend credence that part of the reason FB bought FF was to avoid legal liability, as it brings more outright FF functionality online. - Christopher Galtenberg
What triggered FF sale would be kindoff a mystery for The time beign, given the needs of capital for a steady growing perhaps FF FOUNDERS decide to play it safe, get less but get it now and keep developing under a better capital capture company; as for FB LITE we'll need to see what its focus would be aimed so that in future retrospective confirm or denie that it was the reason of the sale. - Marco ILLESCAS from iPhone
can someone answer me about iGoogle as social hub and answer 2 FB lite perhaps - polou/indigo_bow
Hard to know if the FriendFeed team knew about FB Lite and if it precipitated their decision. Guess they saw they were lagging in terms of network effect and that it was hard to forecast if they would ever gain more momentum that they already had amongst some early adopters. It might have been the best time for them to tie their future up with a bigger player. - Paul Papadimitriou
@robert and all, have any one checked the improvement of GREADER (damn it is worth caps) , in Greader the answer to the question why FF sell to FB. - abdellah
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