I didnt really want to add everyone i know on friendfeed to my facebook, i like to keep them seperate as much as i can. but you know what, fuck it http://www.facebook.com/simon... add a note saying you;re from friendfeed if you add me, then i can group everyone up :)
- Simon Wicks
Thanks, Simon. I've not started going through these yet. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm only going to add the people i actually talk to on here. I have a lot less people on my follow list than you, so its a bit easier for me :)
- Simon Wicks
Remember, guys. According to FB, you're only allowed 5000 friends. Spend them wisely.
- James Myatt
As if we weren't before? Were they really that many people here who didn't also have a FB account, even if they didn't list it in their profile? I've been with FB since 2004
- LANjackal
Well, with this news it is pushing me to start using my real name for web services and to kill (or at least slowly stop using) the tomit persona that I have used for many years. Find me here... http://www.facebook.com/ronaldb...
- tomit
FF better figure out how not to destroy themselves (if possible) with this merger. Friendfeed in the FB interface will not work. I think FF really just f*cked themselves.
- Ethan
I'm on Facebook, but I don't have a name in my profile URL (yet; I'm still new...). But if you want it, it's http://www.facebook.com/profile... -- if you friend me, tell me you're from FF.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't freaking have one because I never wanted to sign up for Facebook. :P Now I find out that through no fault of my own I'm technically a Facebook user? GAH.
- Cheryl Jones
http://facebook.com/alex.covic - I will friend everybody - for those of you concerned with friend/family + privacy = you can create lists (just like ff-groups) to keep FF-users in a different corner;-).
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I do not use it much LOL I just post to it from other sites so to fill up my friends stream, I do get messages and some status in text. Anyone who really wants to add me, use the facebook link on my profile. :o)
- David Gross
www.facebook.com/drodzand you won't see much since I got the privacy settings on max in Facebook. Just another reason why I think Facebook is completely different from friendfeed. I hope they keep friendfeed running because I use both services in diametrically diverse ways.
- David Rodriguez
http://www.facebook.com/kimbers... (I can remember if I commented on this already. I don't see "You" on the list, but I'm tired. So, hopefully, I didn't. If I did, oh well.
- Kimber Scott
Thanks Rob, I had forgotten my username for I always used my email address to login - I found there is a settings > username > change thing that lets you change your username once and then you get a facebook.com/username url!
- TrafficBug
I am thinking about just using my Public Page more. Keep my regular profile for family and coworker data. Follow me here if you want more of the type of posts I do here of Friendfeed. http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- tomit
SCREW YOU HAGGIS... I wax me legs, I spend hours in the hairdressers and weeks doing my makeup for you... YOU BASTARD... I HATE YOU... *runs off sobbing*
- Johnny Worthington
Oh I have you in another list Johnny: Crossdressing Australians of FF.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Aww, I hope I'm not offending anyone by not including them on the list. Many times I just go by the avatar and if it's a cartoon or something it's hard to tell and I won't put on here, and also these are just *my* personal tastes. Everyone has different types!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Any woman with the brass to be on FF is a hottie in my book.
- Chris Baskind
Wow - that'd be a drag to be on a list like that. Still, as I always say, if you want to get a lot of followers get a hot chick avatar. It's sad but it's iJustine. True! I mean true. It's sad but it's true.
- Ciaoenrico
Ciaoenrico I kinda take offense to that. My avatar is me, it's my face and I shared it on FF after a LOT of thought about it (plus some gender confusion, but that's another story). Because a woman might be considered attractive she *shouldn't* user her face as an avatar otherwise she's just trying to get followers? Bull crap, and sexist to boot.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Agreed, Tina. That certainly wasn't the point of this list - it was merely a way to point out all of my FF crushes at once. I hope no one takes offense to it. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I'm offended....I wasn't on this effing list!!
- jamar78
Sean, I'm not offended, personally. I find it rather amusing. The title of this post, to me, however, seemed rather "definitive". YMMV. :D
- Helen Sventitsky
I think I'm due for a new picture. I've used the same one since joining.
- Rochelle
Rochelle, you had that other one, the B&W one of you smiling. That was great, too
- Josh Haley
Quite a collection. There should be a male list too but then that could lead to a match-making game and apps being developed and other memes ... and ... oh dear ...
- Amani
Dammit.. I'm about to delete this post. It was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. :(
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I don't think it's a problem pointing out your crushes, hun. I think it's the fact that it's titled "The Hotties of FriendFeed" that can make people kind of uncomfy. That comes across as a direct judgment of peoples' looks, even though we know you didn't mean it that way.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
@Sean don't ever apologize for your actions.
- Shevonne
Okay, I think I understand.. Thanks Amanda.. I just updated the title, hopefully it will let everyone know that this is my own personal list, and by no means a judgement of anyone.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
It's not my scene, but hey...whatevs. It just feels a little meat market-ish to me. People aren't avatars, and I know a couple on the list who wouldn't be proud of being reduced to a FF hottie on someone's list.
- Derrick
Derrick - But a lot of the stuff you post to the really gay room is pretty meat market-ish. Just because they're professional models it's okay to objectify them? We naturally objectify each other because we naturally are sexual creatures. I'm not offended by being on this list, but I don't like being objectified and I think what Haggis has done is a sweet gesture, not a gesture of blind testosterone rubbing one out.
- Mattie Kenny
Didn't anyone see me grab the popcorn earlier? That's your 1st clue.
- Josh Haley
Sean you created a monster didn't you....hehe
- jamar78
Ugh.. no kidding.. I guarantee this list will never be mentioned again outside of these posts. I think i'm gonna unplug for a while and let this all die down.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
ok i just now read the whole thread damnit i always miss everything lol joel... ::shakes head:: u kno to some i'm not a lil sister lol ur so funny i luv u!
- Cardeen Martinez
don't let it get to you Sean....all that matters is that you had no malicious intent which you didn't
- jamar78
**blushes** - gee thanks. :) And go hide for a while, Sean... it'll all blow over.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
nice list, i have about half of these in a group called "sexy people"
- sean percival
Mattie, any pics I post in the Really Gay Room are A) *in* the Really Gay Room, and B) pictures culled from sites that are meat-marketish to begin with. I would never post pics of Scoble or Louis Gray and say, "oh these are guys I'd like to see naked". And I'm not knocking Sean. I freakin' love Sean. But I also know that there are women on the list who've worked hard at getting to where they are in life and in their careers and to be thought of as a pin-up on FF isn't their bag.
- Derrick
It's about time you chimed in Leather...LMAO...love it...haha
- jamar78
I don't see how posting this in a room would make it any different a situation, Derrick. I don't think that Sean ever said he wanted to see any of the women on the list naked. Is that something I skipped over while scanning the comments? If he said that, then yes. This list is pretty lame. But being admired for your beauty isn't bad. Especially since (for me at least) being a hottie entails being incredibly intelligent and engaging.
- Mattie Kenny
Mattie, that's exactly what I consider a hottie. Attractiveness is only part of the factor. Intelligence, a sense of humor, and many other things go into that equation.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Mattie, I'm not going to fight with you over this. If you want to split ends, say I'm a hypocrite, or engage in double standards, feel free. I don't care. Very simply, I know people who don't want to be referred to as hotties. By anyone. I see them on the list. I speak up. That's it. There are 50 people in the RGR, maybe 20 people see it regularly. That's a HUGE difference than the numbers of people who sub to the home feed. But you know what? Forget I even opened my mouth. Apparently I've become a prude...
- Derrick
That's not what I'm saying, Derrick. Now I understand what you meant by putting the photos up in the RGR versus what Haggis did. Did these women speak up for themselves and say they don't appreciate being called attractive?
- Mattie Kenny
<3 Derrick.. I appreciate what you are saying, and think it's very commendable that you are seeing this from an angle I didn't really see. I know you only have the best intentions with what you are saying. Please no more fighting over this..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I just happen to know them, Mattie. And I didn't say they didn't appreciate being called attractive. I said they, knowing them as I do, woudn't appreciate being culled up on a list and pointed out for the world to ogle.
- Derrick
Sean, you know how I feel about you bud, and I'm not putting you on blast. Consider my hands washed of it.
- Derrick
Mattie, how about you look at it from the flip side...those women who DIDN'T make the list and don't have the benefit of feeling all bubbly inside because they've been deemed "attractive"? It's all well and good when you're on the winning team, apparently.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
yeah Sean you are a good person....don't beat yourself up about it
- jamar78
Although you better take my sis' out this damn list!! hehe
- jamar78
Amanda - I don't think not being on the list deems you unattractive and I don't think Haggis is the be all end all of who is or is not attractive. Wow. I'm on the list. BFD. I don't feel or bubbly inside, nor did I take it very seriously. It didn't blip in my radar until I saw people taking major offense to Haggis having posted the list, in which case I looked at it & was surprised to see myself there. I'm not on any "team".
- Mattie Kenny
Haggis, I love the conversations you spawn... feel free to include me in future provocative topics. ~xxxooo~
- Far
I would like to state for the record, should there be a men's list...I would like to opt out. That is all, thank you.
- Christian (Simply X)
Ok gents, let's show the ladies how we roll. (and can someone email me that info ahead of time, so I look like I know what I'm doing?)
- Morgan Haley
Oh too funny. Thanks for including me, Sean. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
And the winner for best line from this entire thread..."The picture is too small to see. Am I on it?"...@Martha. thank YOU! I am now cleaning cola off of my keyboard.
- .LAG liked that
How did you manage to limit yourself to only 53?
- j1m
Ok my cat is really pist off...didn't make the cut...gees! LOL
- Susan Beebe
This list is approved, mainly because one certain hottie is the better half :) Sean, not only do you represent a great product, but also exceptional taste. Sir, I owe you a drink! ;)
- Matt Harwood
I'm amazed that neither Lisa Bettany nor Sarah Lacy are showing up in any of these clique building seminar visual aides.
- Matthew DeVries
Ok I am not the brightest crayon in the box so I want to know how the hell do you see a list of people like that. I have different lists but where do I go to see all in just that one list?
- Brandy Lea
Brandy, you see this view when you go into one of your lists then select to Add/Remove friends.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think what Brandy is asking is if she can see someone else's list, which we can't. Haggis might have made a list that is friendfeed.com/list/hotties and he'll see it when he's logged in, but no one else would see it if they went to that same URL. He wouldn't even see it if he logged out and went to that URL.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't think I was subscribed to you when I made this list, Jeunelle. This is almost a year old! :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Don't misunderstand what I mean. I mean I am thankful I didn't make the list period. PRAISE THE LORD :)
- Jeunelle Foster
We should have an Academy Award of FriendFeed or something. That I would have a long ass speech prepared telling everybody how I'd like to thank all the little people who were responsible for me winning that award and it should be sponsored by Mashable and FFundercats :)
- Jeunelle Foster
How the FF did I miss this thread? Jan 27th??? Thank you! That's a huge compliment. And since it's so old, it's a fun time capsule too.
- Ginger Makela Riker
My 'State of the Tina' address - I am still sick: exploding sneezes are rare but there's still sinus congestion and lots of rumbly coughs, plus a bit of a fever. As a result I haven't been to derby practice in a week and miss all my gals =( Alls quiet on the job-search front, though I hope to hear re: the training job later this week.
Hmmm, keep and eye on that cough, young lady. Coughs and fevers lasting this long need to be watched. Lots of rest and don't worry about the job too much until you're better. Now - getting recuperating!
- WorldofHiglet
The fever is a rarity, just an hour here and there over the past week so not enough to really concern me. The cough is better than it was (around Wednesday it was the 'cough so much it hurt to breathe' kind of cough) and is productive, so hopefully just a few more days and I'll be better. Will be buying an expectorant tonight to try and clear the last of it out.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
keep away from the Pneumonia Triangle. the hotels are expensive there and the service stinks.
- Joe Silence disconnected
Get better! Good luck with everything.
- Nation Hahn
Good luck Tina, I'm surprised a web company hasn't headhunted you for a community liaison job, you've certainly got the skills.
- Steven Cains
I appreciate that, Steven. While I think I'd probably be good at a community liaison position I don't really expect to get head-hunted for one. But hey, if someone has an in with a company that's looking for one... </self-serving hint>
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"Thousands of right-wing protesters are in DC for the 9/12 Project march today, inspired by Glenn Beck and organized by Republican lobbyists. One rally attendee caught a particularly tasteless sign being distributed to protesters:"
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Has anyone determined who/what the logo on the bottom of this sign is?
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm not sure why, but this song popped into my head when I saw this: "And you will know they are Christians by their love, by their love... you will know they are Christians by their love." Not that all right-wingers are Christian, by any measure (or all Christians right-wingers--I'm proof of that!) but the right would have us believe that they have God in their corner. Hard to reconcile when one sees stuff like this.
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
p.s. I realize that the song is actually "They will know WE are Christian by our love..." but I guess my subconscious brain automatically edited for context. (It does that a lot. Go figure.)
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
These are the same Confederate Christians who used the Bible (mainly the Old Testament) to justify slavery and war. Kevin Phillips is excellent on this stuff -- see his book "American Theocracy." Also note the Confederate flag in one of the photos above.
- Sean McBride
John: Indeed it is. I kept thinking that there was a letter (D?) in front of it, but checking out logos, that is the ALL logo. Thanks!
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
The thing in front isn't a letter, it's a fetus. A "pro-life" organization celebrating someone's death.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
People like these make me wish there was a census for those who oppose the health care bill. Once determined they would never be able to apply for the public option would they find themselves without health care, automatically be dropped to the bottom of the transplant list if they are in need of one, etc. Oxygen stealers.
- Rene Wirtz
They can always opt out. Good luck to them if they meet with a catastrophic illness.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Good luck to them if more emergency rooms throughout the US are closed, forcing already crowded ERs to take up an even heavier workload. Good luck understanding why having private insurance doesn't mean they don't have to wait for docs to treat the life-threatening cases before theirs.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
@MiniMage: I don't think you quite understand my comment. I am making it personal to those who oppose health care reform, because they don't want to change anything because right now right here they don't need anything. They forget that everyone may have the need for a safety net somewhere down the line and the plan that Obama is promoting makes sure that everyone has a safety net, not just the ones who can afford outrageously high health care.
- Rene Wirtz
Perhaps, but maybe you didn't understand mine? I think having to wait hours in an overcrowded, overworked and understaffed ER will deny them what they need. People who can't afford preventive care wait until their situations become urgent, and emergency departments can't turn them away. That can easily affect Biff jr when he falls off his skateboard and gets a messy, but minor head wound, even if daddy can pay cash right now.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
But that is how health care now works for those who can't even afford the most basic of health insurances.
- Rene Wirtz
Rene, do you not understand that I'm saying "good luck" to the same people m9m is (or, at least the ones who are saying, "I've got mine; we don't need to worry how you get yours")? I'm saying that denying others health insurance can interfere with the care of those who have the means to pay, because it can continue to reduce the number of available emergency rooms and increase the wait time for emergency care. Or is it me? I AM trying a new bottle of sake, so I could be confused.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Your explanation helped, thanks :-) I am a little tired, so I may have missed something as well.
- Rene Wirtz
I'm having this problem a lot this year. Since I'm the common denominator, it must be me.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
We have Healthcare for sale in France HxNy vaccines included, special offer with Roselyne Kit
- Dominique Rabeuf
Looking sharp! Good luck! So, you have a video phone?
- Nik
No, today's just a phone interview Nik, but I'm hoping to get called in for a face-to-face. I've had the thing since college, hence the question on whether it would fit or not. Probably needs to go to the cleaners if today goes well...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I've realized a small problem: I don't think I own any run-free pantyhose. As we're also now out of orange juice, I guess I'll muster enough energy to go to the store for both a little later on.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina! Pantyhose? Skirt? WTF??!! Thankfully those days are gone. I'm tellin' ya.
- anna sauce
Luckily I don't think it's a pantyhose job, more a 'business casual'. But, interview in clothes a notch above the company's daily norm is what I've always heard...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I stopped wearing my skirt suit because (as this thread shows) it just sends the girlie message a bit too hard. Now I do slacks, suit jacket, and nice top underneath. Glasses not contacts. If your'e curvy (like I am, and it looks like you are) you don't have to sex up the office clothes at all.
- anna sauce
It's a really nice suit and you look great- a women's tech group I am in talk about this *all the time* and in the early 90s there was a definite shift out of the skirt for reasons above. I mean, it's all in the impression. Since I'm going for tech roles, it's a tad different. If I was going for marketing, I'd vamp up a bit more. I'm more "trying to be taken seriously," though now that I'm older that's a little less of a worry than I was in my 20s trying to get a programming job!
- anna sauce
The best advice I got was- "dress for the pay you want". You may not want to out-dress your workplace, as that may send triggers of "she doesn't fit in." It's an interesting line. For corporate environments, definitely wear a suit (dress/skirt or slacks) for small companies, I'd go more for fitting in, but definitely show that you care and put effort into it (and dress for the pay you want).
- anna sauce
Well, it is a corporate job so a suit is appropriate if I get a face to face interview. An unfortunately, the skirt suit is the only one I have. Without my income and without even having my first unemployment check, I'm not in a position to buy a new one right now.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I sometimes do office visit interviews for my large IT company and I see skirts and pants. If it was my interview, I'd wear a knee length skirt.
- Sarah Miller
from iPhone
@anna "dress for the pay you want". I have to remember that.
- Nik
Wear your suit during the phone interview. You will magically come across as a true professional.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Coming late to the party - but it's gorgeous, and so are you. You'll knock 'em dead.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Very nice! Academia must be ultra-conservative this way b/c we are told to avoid showing our knees in our interview wear. Partly because of the pantyhose/shiny knee conundrum, but also because of how it might look when you sit down. Most initial interviews are done at our big conference, either at the conference job center or in hotel suites/rooms. You never know where you might be...
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- Katy S
"In this new kind of murder, the Internet was front and center at every turn. It enabled the crime, and it was the principal tool used to establish the identity of the prime suspect. When Simons, who lives on the West Coast, did not receive her usual text from Brisman signaling that the transaction had been completed, she texted her at 11 p.m., at midnight, and again at 5:30 a.m., asking her to let her know that everything was O.K. At 7:10 a.m., still having heard nothing, she called security at the Marriott Copley Place and was immediately transferred to the Boston police, who had been combing the crime scene to gather forensic evidence such as hair and blood. She told the officers that she had helped set up the massage appointment through Craigslist, and that she could provide them with the e-mail name and address of Andy. In addition, Simons gave the police the password to the Yahoo massage account. Then Simons called Mark Rasch, the former head of the computer-crime unit of the...
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- RAPatton
"Few Americans, even those from the younger, Internet generation, seem to understand how easily their clicks and text messages can be detected, and how little privacy any of us have anymore. Every search, every posting, every text message or Twitter, leaves a cyber footprint. The content of every e-mail sent by any one of us is kept by the Internet service provider and stored for a...
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- RAPatton
"“If the Internet is Walmart, every aisle is filled with every sex fetish you can think of,” says former Washington Post tech reporter Jose Antonio Vargas. “Ten percent of all searches on Google and Yahoo are areas which are porn-related,” says Jules Polonetsky, co-chair of the Future of Privacy Forum, a think tank and advocacy group in Washington, D.C., that is supported by major...
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- RAPatton
I just wish people were as concerned about the many, many, many (MANY) murders that have absolutely nothing to do with the internet. Those don't seem to get as much press.
- Noah Belson
The Internet enabled the crime just like that evil Telephone Book.
- Christopher Harley
We also better ban cars. Someone could drive one to a murder.
- Noah Belson
wow, what a crazy story. Good in depth reporting.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't know that the stories about internet privacy and trust can be repeated too often, actually. For those of us who knew Craig's List back when it really was just a mailing list in the SF Bay Area, it was fairly easy to trust and it was a really great experience (not that I'm saying that everyone on that list even then was above reproach). The internet is a tool, like the phone...
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- Spidra Webster
The angle of the story is a bit sensationalistic, but I like the emphasis on the forensics of cracking the case. People forget that they're not anonymous on the internet unless they go to very great lengths - and even then, time and patience can often unravel the most complicated of knots.
- Jennifer Dittrich
"Hotel security services routinely monitor Craigslist to see how much of the erotic trade they are attracting."
- Mitchell Tsai
Ugh... we've made two trips from the house-and-back to move the last odds and ends over. I think there will be two more today. The house is still ours until 1pm tomorrow.
I'm in surprisingly good spirits, considering that I'm about to surrender the house at the bankruptcy hearing in 27 hours. But this apartment is really nice and really comfortable, and we've made it our home now. I don't have all those garbage-baggage feelings of failure that I had when we made the bankruptcy decision. The only funny part today is that Scott's running out of energy before I do! :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Keep up the good spirits if you can. Wherever you all are is your home - cliched but true.
- Nation Hahn
And we're done... finished about 12:15, so that was 4.5 hours of work, and the only stuff we unpacked was what went into the fridge. Then it was a blissful shower, lunch, to the hardware store to make duplicate keys, and to the ladybuglets at their dad's house to give them their keys for tomorrow. We're very tired, and I'm quite sore, but in a good way. I'm steadfastly refusing to look at all the STUFF we need to put away now.
- Ladybug Heather
جووووووووووووووووووونم! چيليك چيليك! تولدت مبارك مهدي جون! چيليك چيليك! نه واژه نه عكس و نه هيچ چيز ديگه! چيليك چيليك! همين كه هر روز صبح با طلوع، تولدت رو توي چشمات جشن مي گيري، شايد بهترين هديه به خودت باشه! چيليك چيليك! تنت به ناز طبيبان نيازمند مباد! چيليك چيليك! باز هم تولدت مبارك! چيليك چيليك!
- Moghamer
A very happy birthday to you Mahdi! :)
- JA Castillo
Alright, here's what I've thrown together so far. It's draft one and I'm all kinds of tired/stressed/jetlagged so there are probably tons of places to improve. Please feel free to take a look and leave your feedback here, and thanks! Oh, and I left the email address on there b/c that's what I'm using for the job search, feel free to send leads...
I have some feedback: go outside, get some fresh air perhaps take a walk and chill out. You will probably have a new job before you know it. Relax.
- Joe
LOL! Thanks, Joe =) The resume is always the hardest part for me so I'm trying to get it squared away so I can focus on finding my next great job. I've always got derby practice for stress relief!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
and if you and Dave are ever interested in running pool hall cons, let me know.
- Joe
"Major: Psychology | Minor: Violence Studies" = scary. Soft Skills is a totally new term to me.
- Toby Graham
How many pages? Looks like it's just one.
- Shevonne
When I was in college I had plans to go into criminal psychology, Toby. Even looked at joint programs for a law degree and doctorate in psychology for a while... I'm trying to remember where I picked up the term "soft skills"; I think it may have been at MCI. Basically, those are the skills that aren't exactly quantifiable by certifications, testing, etc. And Shevonne, right now it's...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I studied a bit of criminal psych and forensic stuff while in school, too. Wanted material for writing, made it clear to the prof. what I was there for, and he was very cool with it, gave me all sorts of extra stuff on psychopathology, serial killers, stuff like that, just made me promise to portray cops realistically. I had to tell him that unfortunately, most cops are good cops and...
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- Neal Jansons
Yeah, my bookshelves are still sporting some books that would make other people cringe on serial killers etc. I did some research with the graduate department on adult abnormal psychology which was interesting, but made it pretty clear to me that I wasn't cut out for a research path.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah, people are weird about that stuff. I have gotten weird reactions from some people, though; even professionals, cops and CSI people, ask "why do you want to write about stuff like that?" and I just don't know how to answer. I just usually say something like, "Not a horror fan, huh?" and make it into a joke (mostly because I don't really know "why" I want to write anything, I just...
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- Neal Jansons
Thanks, Nation. I'm getting ready to put it up on sites now and I'm bad about second guessing myself (and third, and fourth...).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think it's great. You have a lot of experience, so if it went to two, then it would be fine. The only recommendation I have is that instead of using "Profile," I would change it to "Summary of Qualifications"
- Shevonne
Well, I always try to word the blurb up top so it could be a profile, objective, summary, etc. I don't know about calling it a summary of qualifications though, because it doesn't specifically address my qualifications. Maybe that's just my inner pedant...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck. I've been jobless since July 7. Waiting on hearing from 4-5 interviews right now.
- Jeff Quinton
Good luck to you too, Jeff. There are actually a couple of trainer positions open locally that I'm hoping will at least land me some interviews.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You use "ranging from Fortune 500 to local non-profits" twice...i'd look for a different way to phrase that. Also, "local" doesn't really mean much to me. Does "local" mean "small", "geographically close", etc? I'd leave it out. Question I would ask if I were interviewing you (you may want to speak to this on your resume), "How does your psychology background inform your work as a project manager and trainer?"
- Ryan Kaisoglus
Re: 'local', I'm trying to keep the phraseology a bit vague because I'm not sure I want to name clients on the resume (don't know if I can, actually). But fwiw when it comes to clients local means geographically close and may or may not imply small (variety of local clients). I'm rewording the profile though to remove the redundancy.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Scott, I appreciate the kudos. My biggest problem is the fact that my job history is pretty varied and I feel I have to struggle to tie everything together for an employer. Hence the difficulty I'm having with the cover letters right now =/
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It looks great and personalized - you might want to include durations for these skills and assignments, and what you've learned from them
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Actually, there are dates for the jobs. Is that what you're referencing?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hey Tina - this is from a UK perspective so you might want to disregard but here goes: one of the best bits of advice I ever got for my CV is to try to get in there not just a description of duties (have those as well). Under every job title also try to include one of your successes e.g. Secured funding for x project by presenting to x board. seems to work well for me so far... oh - these also act as good reminders of examples for your interview as well - it means that the good examples stick in your head.
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
What I've found in the tech arena is that it's helpful for me to keep a summary table of skills near the top. I have broken down mine before into operating systems, development environments, development methodologies, configuration management, and standards. One could easily add "soft skills" as the top or bottom line. What this does is get my resume through the Recruiter/HR door, where...
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- Ladybug Heather
I've done resumes like that in the past as well, Heather,but I'm hoping to not go back into tech this go round. There are a few training positions open in the area right now and I'm applying for them first. So while I have my most recent job listed first I have more detail listed for my training experience (including awards, accomplishments, etc). I expand on these in my cover letter...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Best wishes and positive new fabulous job energy to you. I quite like soft skills. You don't hear that mentioned much.
- Michelle
Short of setting fire to the Hill, most people don't know where to actually begin - since many don't know what their rights are in this capacity.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Because it doesn't seem to matter much who sits there, the system is broken and the real issues don't get addressed.
- LogEx
@Denise: how about voting? That'd be a neat start - and it's almost 100% effective. I just find it stupefying that 57% of Americans say they want to replace their representatives yet - they don't. Maybe if they could do it via text message, like American Idol?
- Anthony Citrano
In a two-party system, the alternatives aren't necessarily better, and could be a good bit worse.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Changing reps for the better starts with primary challenges, IMO.
- Andrew C
What Andrew said - and John, it's only a “two-party system” because everyone votes for one of the two party candidates.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony - I think it's a two-party system because (1) the votes are first-past-the-post and (2) it's not parliamentary and (3) the parties have historically been big-tent coalitions between several major constituencies rather than small parties making explicit coalitions.
- Andrew C
@Andrew: i know this, but what I'm saying is that it's that way because the voters want it that way.
- Anthony Citrano
Primary challenges are a strong beginning.
- Nation Hahn
Why don't they? Some of the most vocal whiners I know who say Congress sucks and how "they're all the same", NEVER vote. They're too busy trying to get home to catch some reality show.
- Admiral Anika
Agreed, Anthony, regarding the voting. The problem (as I see it) is complacency. People figure that "oh, I will just have to wait til next session" - but the problem compounds upon itself. What people don't seem to realize is that just as they have the right to vote people IN, they also have the right to vote people back OUT. The secondary problem (as I see it) is a brand of laziness regarding the bureaucratic red tape.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I vote every chance I get, the choices are rarely good.
- LogEx
I have a suggested experiment for anyone. Ask people with whom you work...your neighbors...random people in the grocery store in your district...ask them if they know who your/their (assuming same district) representative is. Some people don't know who their city mayor is, who their district representatives are, and even who their senators are. Think about the answers you receive. If a...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Denise, I am often appalled by people not knowing who their reps are. One factor in purchasing my house was who my representative was. I don't know how people move some place and not look up that information. But it doesn't matter that people have no idea who their reps. are. They still rant and rave and form opinions based on headlines. Ask them not who their rep. is, but if they've...
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- Admiral Anika
I've also found that voters I know in abstract dislike "congress" and "taxes" and especially "pork barrell spending" but they are usually happy with the paticular politician who lives in their town and got federal money for their library, fire hall, highway or whatever pork they wanted for their own town. Like much of life sadly selfish narrow self interest is a big part of behavior
- WarLord
Case in point, there is a MN Rep Kline (R) who to great applause took the no earmarks pledge and vowed not to place personal appropriations in any spending bill. Last I heard several county boards had sent him letters chastising him for failing to bring road transit and other federal funding to the dstrict. While I think such pledges are grandstanding and dumb, the whole incident illustrates the disconnect in peoples thinking that drives that poll and much of rhetoric
- WarLord
Anika, indeed. I came across this in myself for more than a decade married to the military. Because my family moved around once every 2-3 years, I saw no point in knowing anything at the local, county/district, or state level. I knew who my hometown reps were, but I was so far removed from it that I didn't pay attention - I only followed the national stuff. When I moved here after the...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
So I've started a blog, The Shibboleth, that's meant to discuss topics of faith, philosophy of religion, and theology from the perspective of a once-atheist, now rediscovering Christian (i.e., me). I'm having a bit of a writer's block tonight, so FriendFeed, I'm asking for your help. Any ideas?
My brain's drained working on my own new blog but I'm 100% on board with you via RSS.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sounds like an interesting concept if nothing else!
- Nation Hahn
Thanks, guys. It's been something I've been meaning to do for a while. Hopefully it'll be interesting!
- Mark Trapp
Mark, thanks for sharing your journey. I read your most recent entries today and watched this TED talk. http://www.ted.com/talks... There are some really good questions in the comments section. Questions that you have touched on and I reflected on after consideration of your posts. Edit: Doug Walton's Q in particular.
- Eric Logan
Eric: I don't know if I want to touch on evolution so soon after the last post on it (http://theshibboleth.com/2009...), but I think the comment still makes the same fallacy Hunter outlines. Having studied artificial intelligence, Walton misunderstands or underestimates the state of strong AI. most strong AI work is exactly what he seems to believe can't...
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- Mark Trapp
1UP Mark. I'm in this area of limbo where I'm trying to figure out my own matters of faith. I look forward to the site.
- Derrick
Cool, Derrick: hopefully this is right up your alley. I think tonight I'm going to go with the trilemma (Jesus must be a liar, a lunatic, or Lord).
- Mark Trapp
do you have to believe in God in order to... call yourself an observant religious person?
- edythe
Discuss the book "the life of pi". Thought provoking.
- Rick Cogley
I like the "Ask a Catholic" idea, and will look for that!
- Kathy Fitch
when I first talked to the rabbi about converting, I asked him if I had to believe in G-d, and I was prepared to say that it was something I couldn't do if my conversion would make me a hypocrite. But he said that if I came to him and said I *knew* G-d existed, he would no more advice me to convert than he would if I came to him and said I knew G-d *didn't* exist. [felt the need to omit the "o" in this comment, out of respect for my rabbi, and Jews, and my conversion.]
- edythe
Mark, do you listen to the Catholic Insider or Daily Breakfast podcasts?
- joey
edythe: that's interesting, and different from the starting position one's supposed to have before formally converting to Christianity. joey: I don't have the patience to listen to podcasts.
- Mark Trapp
Whoa Mark, that's interesting, indeed! Good luck in your spiritual journeys. They will be interesting, I can vouch for that. And for your blog, maybe you could touch on "intelligent design" principles. And a good site is 'Reasons to Believe'. I think it's http://www.reasons.org (forgive me if that URL is wrong. In which case, you can simply Google for it)
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
from fftogo
Yay, I learned something new about a cool friendfeeder. Tis nice when to jump back and feel the same stuff.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I learned early on in my days of FriendFeed to not mess with Mark on issues of Christianity and Catholicism. I've learned a lot from him and his blog on the subject continues to illuminate. It's good stuff.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I did an upgrade but then again mine was only two weeks old.
- Nation Hahn
I'll wipe and install over my main boot drive, though I have separate Time Machine and clone disks (I'll keep the Leopard clone around for awhile, just in case). I'm going to try to minimize the number of apps I install initially, then only install others as I need them.
- LogEx
Interesting to note that adjusting my Flash settings made it into the top three list of non-app customizations.
- LogEx
No AIR. Silverlight only if I come to realize it's absolutely necessary for some essential site or service.
- LogEx
Avoiding apps that can't be installed with a simple drag to the Applications folder. I don't tend to like apps that embed themselves into system folders, or that create daemons that I can't easily see and control.
- LogEx
Trader Joe's sells a candy bar that is a layer of peanut butter, a layer of jelly, and a layer of potato chips. Then the whole thing is dunked in chocolate.
- Rochelle
That is why other people are rich. They come up with these ideas.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Yay! Do you know @unstableisotope? She's a scientist (also her husband @FreeRadical). Both of them also attend and have been my go to people for what goes on in the science panels. Mainly because they can explain stuff to me in layman's terms.
- Admiral Anika
I think my picture should be the logo since my name is Nation.
- Nation Hahn
Are you going to go Nation? There is always a nice meet-and-greet with that year's candidates and they have a pretty cool Camp Wellstone panel too.
- Admiral Anika
@Tutivillus Yup She sure does!!! holy hanna! to a T wouldn't you think?
- The Catz Meow
this feed is going to be everlasting:) there is different answer any time:)
- Mycaptain
Mycaptain, back in the day I thought this would be a cute meme, and nobody ran with it, and so I'm running with it and just enjoying it as a "my-meme" lol
- anna sauce
Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon. mmmmmm Deep, rich, yet soft flavours bursting with fruits with just a taste berry and a subtle touch of gentle oak.
- Kevin J Hatton
Yeah, pretty out of the blue. Taking the contract would put me about $400 a month ahead of unemployment (both before taxes) and in theory I could work elsewhere while doing it. It's the finding work that's the question: unemployment is high around here.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Looking at my calendar, I realize I started with this company 3 years ago almost to the day. Don't know what that matters, but it just struck me.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
When i got let go from last design job, I pleaded! I said cut my pay etc. I even made less than the other designer(s) and said cut one of them not me. Still didn't work. Desperate times!
- orionstarr
Yolanda, I thought about that too (the whole going out on my own thing), but I don't know about it yet. I don't want to to websites or design or coding, I'm not good enough at it to be competitive. Ditto photography...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That sucks! In regards to the 3 years thing, is it possible some benefits change then and they are being cheap about it?
- Justin Korn
That sucks Tina. :-( Hope you find something quick.
- Jordan Hofker
I too am sorry to hear this Tina. Its one thing if you can see it coming...quite another when you don't. Good luck Tina, I hope this gets resolved for you quickly. Start making moves girl.
- Carlos Ayala
You said it from the start. Fuck. Sorry you are going through this. I hope things get better for you starting right....NOW.
- Morgan Haley
Not really, Justin. I took a bit of a benefits cut by staying with the company once Boss bought it from the previous owner: I liked the working environment enough that it was worth it. Luckily my health insurance is through Dave's job (but unluckily he works in the newspaper industry).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brush up the resume and start looking before it all comes crashing in. Easier to make a lateral move... Good luck! xo
- Fossil Huntress
Oh, no. So sorry to hear this, Tina. Hope you find something wonderful soon.
- LB - all new for '10!
That sux, Tina. Maybe you can find someone with complementary skills to partner with on your own thing.
- Kevin Pedraja
I'll be honest, I'm not all that interested in a lateral move or staying in this industry if I have the option, but the question then becomes where to go if I don't stay where I am. I'd love to get back into training again but I don't know that I can after being out of it for 3 years...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sorry to hear this news. Rooting for you in Vegas, though. :) And it's a cliche, but sometimes these things happen for a reason. You know, when one door closes, another opens. Will be keeping good thoughts for you.
- Joe Bonner
Sorry *HUGS* my advice (if it matters) take the contract while you look for both contract and F/T work and let the universe help you figure it out
- Bastard Operator From FF
Sorry to hear that Tina - it really sucks (like this year hasn't been trying enough!). After the news settles in your brain will start doing it's thinky-thing and things will get moving. There are so many people here that you can bounce ideas off...((hugs))
- WorldofHiglet
Getting laid off is the new black! Not really, but someone said that when it happened to me and it's kind of true. All the coffee shops during the day are filled with us. Come make friends...and learn about all the unemployment tricks. If it helps, everyone I've met in the past 5 months has found new opportunities and are happy.
- Jess
What sort of work do you do? What sort of work are you looking for in the future?
- Scott Magdalein
My current job is (was?) a mismash created as the result of me filling in where it was needed over the years. I do Linux server admin, Oracle admin, Lotus Domino admin, and Lotus Notes development; I don't do any of it exceptionally well, just good enough. If I leave here I don't intend to stay in the same technologies (or even in tech at all), but other than that I have no clue.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sounds like you're not really digging what you're doing anyways. Look at this as an opportunity for change. Change is usually good. :)
- Mr Saturday Morning NFG
I'm ambivalent about what I do but enjoy who I do it for. Perhaps to be more specific: I don't like what I do enough to be willing to do it for another company (and honestly, I don't have the credentials necessary for another company to hire me to do what I do now).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That bites! Can anyone help Tina find a new gig?
- Shane
here's a secret: you don't have to be *GREAT* to make money. "good enough" is oftentimes good enough to make a living. not saying you should stick with tech if that's not where your heart is. but don't let "i'm not great" keep you from doing something.
- tiffany
I agree, I'm terrible at everything. Oh, but I don't make any money. I guess that is not helpful. Good luck.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Tiffany, it's not even a matter of being good enough: I'd have to go get several certifications to get hired doing what I do now with another company just to meet the minimum qualifications. I don't enjoy it enough to do that.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I am so sorry to hear this news, Tina. I wish you the best in deciding what to do and then pursuing it.
- Anne Bouey
Thanks for the kind wishes all, and I'm sorry for the language. Sometimes, though, foul words are really the words I'm looking for. This is one of those times...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I totally fucking know what you are fucking talking about. Fuck yeah. Sometimes the fucking fucks is all the fucking fuck that fucking allows the fucks to fuck the fuck fuck. Right? Fuck Yeah! So you go girl. Cut loose!
- Morgan Haley
Crap. What kind of work do you do / want to do? I know you were dealing with a couple of servers before (and DNS setup stuff) and that it was somewhat technical. Depending on what you're looking for I could check my network.
- mikepk
I appreciate it Mike, but I'm going hold off for just a little bit. I'm not really certain what I want to do or even if 'want' can come into the picture in this economy. I'm more than willing to telecommute if need be, but moving isn't an option.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
So sorry, Tina! :( Hope this means an even better opportunity for you around the corner.
- Ayşe E.
I'm really sorry to hear that, Tina. I hope you get a brainstorm as to which way seems the best way forward. And I hope something really cool you'd very much like to do drops in your lap.
- Spidra Webster
Sorry to hear that and hoping something even better comes along for you.
- adf
Take the cut and start looking...big breaks always start this way.
- claudio alegre
from iPhone
Fuck fuck fuck. Here's looking at you. FF has got your back. Looking for a job as an oil tycoon maybe?
- Mike Nayyar
Tina, you're smart and and you have a good network, one way or the other you'll land on your feet. The short-term uncertainty is teh suck though :(
- LogEx
I took a full time job and lost 40% in pay for the same company; sad thing is that I do a LOT more work now...
- acedanger
Sorry to hear Tina......that really does suck!
- Bonnie Foster
Sorry to hear that Tina. Hope the rest of your time gets filled quickly with rewarding freelance projects or similar.
- Patrick Jordan
Tina: I noticed you said you don't have the credentials to perform your current job for another company ... are you sure about that? Nearly all employers value experience doing something over raw qualifications. You might want to test the waters first before making that assumption
- LANjackal
from IM
Because my current job duties were so varied and scattered about, LANjackal, I never became proficient enough at any one thing to warrant a position in another company without credentials. And to tell the truth, I'm ok with that; the biggest reason I enjoyed my job was because of where I worked, not because of what I was doing. I don't enjoy Notes/Domino/Oracle enough to want to do them at another company. I've got 10 long days to mull everything over in Vegas, so hopefully I'll come up with something =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina: OK, I hear you. I was just asking.
- LANjackal
from IM
Aww, thanks, Tina. And again, I'm sorry. Here's hoping that something better's on the way for you.
- James (!?)
Bummer. Good luck. Do you have any other companies/people in mind that you'd like to work with? If you connect with me on LinkedIn, you can look through my LinkedIn contacts to see if there's anyone where you might like to work... (or I can e-mail you some PDFs). I can also look through my 2nd & 3rd level contacts to see if anyone's interesting.
- Mitchell Tsai
Wow, that's terrible! G-d willing, something better will come from this.
- David C. Cooper
Oh, damn...so sorry to hear that, Ms. Tina. :(
- JA Castillo
Very sorry for you, Tina. Hope this becomes a new beginning for some better opportunities in the future. All the best.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Sorry, Tina. I agree with claudio...I would take the PT contract, spend free time looking for a new job (I have faith you'll find something you like!), and give them 2 weeks notice when the next gig is rdy2go.
- Hao Chen
Sorry Tina :( Are you sure that your company can do that? Are you the only one with this problem or are involved also some collegues?
- Roberto
from fftogo
:-( I'm sorry, Tina. That really is the massive fucking suck. Hmm... hey, Morgan! Do you know whether women get severance whores, too? http://ff.im/3tgPa
- Ladybug Heather
Roberto, there are currently only 2 people at my company: Boss and myself. All of my main job duties revolve around handling our biggest client, so the offer to got part-time contract is so I could take care of their issues when they arise. Boss handles most of the remaining clients But they are all smaller contracts.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Solidarity: I had to go on furlough two days a week starting several weeks ago. Effectively a 40% pay cut.
- DGentry
Boooooooooooooo! Ssssssssss! That sucks, I'm sorry Tina. Chin up, you'll get through it.
- You.
from iPhone
So sorry to hear about that Tina. :( So not cool
- Alex Scoble
Full sympathy Tina -- go pro skating?
- Stephen Mack
LOL! Stephen, I'd have to be able to skate well for that to be an option. I'm good at hitting and controlled falling, but skating isn't my strong point just yet.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"Pro" just means they pay you, not that you're good at it though!
- Stephen Mack
Well, then that takes roller derby out of the question, no one gets paid in flat track derby. Actually, we all pay dues to be on the team...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And the roller derby t-shirt sale profits go to?
- Stephen Mack
They go into the team fund, which pays for renting out the place we have our bouts. It's a new team, no cash right now. Our league is setup as a non-profit, though, so once they have enough capital to cover expenses then profits from our bouts and merch sales will be donated to a local charity (we're actually in the process of picking one). EDIT - I just realized, that might mean that my monthly dues are tax deductible. Dunno...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I see. Ah well. There may be more to explore with the pro skater angle that. Warped Enigma World Skating Tour?
- Stephen Mack
layoff, you will have more time for tweeting, like me. Come to kosovo, like me. Life is cheap here. 50Cents for a Cappuchino.
- James Michael Mike DuPont
Don't give up, Tina. The trick is to turn the set-back into an opportunity. I know for a fact that if I hadn't been laid off at a point in time, I would be still stuck in a crappy cable-tv company instead of where I am now.
- Adrian Scicluna
James, that is very tempting, I'll have to add it to my list of inexpensive places to live =) Actually, if I were willing to move I'm actually now capable of moving to Argentina: even this li'l bit of contract cash would be enough to set Dave and me up comfortably in Cordoba. Hrm....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Sorry about the surprise/shock. After the initial shock wears off, do your best to look at the opportunity that has presented itself to you. Namely is there any way you can leverage your time to discover greater value/pay for your efforts?
- Mark Essel
:-( I missed this post. Sorry to hear it Tina. Maybe now is the perfect time to become an entrepreneur? :-)
- Jason Huebel
Doh! That's what "entrepreneur" means! Recently laid off! Thanks, Jason! Much catchier than "consultant" :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Tina - Would you be interested in applying for this Continental Airlines position? http://ff.im/6S4bZ Continental is my favorite airline & has been making good efforts to relate to their customers. Their rep "CO Insider" has been very active on the FlyerTalk forums, and it feels to me like they "get" internet communication better than any other US airline. "CO Looking to Hire Facebooke'r/Tweeter/Social Media Guru" [Weatherboy, FlyerTalk Forums - 8/15/09]
- Mitchell Tsai
I just read this post - you say "My current job is (was?) a mismash created as the result of me filling in where it was needed over the years." - I'm in the same kind of position and also in layoff jeopardy. No one appreciates the glue until it's gone. I'm sorry.
- Amy℠
{selects "don't like" and clicks mouse}
- Bryan R. Adams
In an effort to test various energy saving and waste-reducing methods, McDonald’s is evaluating 10 prototype “green” restaurant locations. The restaurant is treating the 10 locations as “learning laboratories,” said McDonald’s Vice President of Corporate Social Responsibility Bob Langert, in a Q&A with DailyFinance. Energy savings and waste reduction are central to McDonald’s corporate social responsibility strategy, [...]
- Chris Baskind
"We come to this same log every time, each time it's something different. A boat. A spaceship. A car. A horse. A road. An eagle. They say we adults need to teach kids how to grow up, but really I think it should be the other way around."
- Anna Haro
from Bookmarklet
"How many special edition Bugatti Veyrons are there? There's the Pur Sang, the Bleu Centenaire, the Sang Noir and Fbg by Hermes, not to mention the countless examples that have either been painted gold or chrome by bored sheiks who've spent too much time in the sun. The targa-fied Veyron, otherwise known as the Grand Sport, has been around a lot less time than its closed roof counterpart, but it's about time the open roof Bug got a special edition of its own. Enter the Grand Sport "Sang Bleu" that's being unveiled by Bugatti this weekend in Monterey."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
Many promoters of health-care reform believe that people have an intrinsic ethical right to health care—to equal access to doctors, medicines and hospitals. While all of us empathize with those who are sick, how can we say that all people have more of an intrinsic right to health care than they have to food or shelter? Health care is a service that we all need, but just like food and shelter it is best provided through voluntary and mutually beneficial market exchanges.
- Meryn Stol
+1 Mel - I am gutted and don't know what to do if the main FF site closes
- Matt Hooper
Why would I leave friendfeed? This place works well enough for me.
- Talon Lardner
Manuel: back to my blog and Twitter, probably. I'm playing around with Facebook but it doesn't quite do it for me.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sticking around unless there's some sort of mass exodus which I don't see an immediate reason for.
- Mike Elliott
Not leaving 'til it closes, and I'm certainly not going to facebook or twitter even then.
- Jim in Real Time
I'm sad, but I'm sticking around. I'm hoping others do to. At some point, the fuss will die down.
- Helen Sventitsky
Mike: because I expect it will get shut down eventually if it doesn't get invested in, and if it gets no new features it will fall behind Google Wave and other projects.
- Robert Scoble
This feels like that HBO Documentary about Brooklyn Dodgers going to LA haha.
- Manuel Mas
And, actually, Google Wave seems to be the most obvious thing for me to try out from now on.
- Robert Scoble
Isn't it a bit early to make decisions? Has there been an announcement that I missed that FF is going away? Even if it isn't where else is better at this point?
- Tad
I will stick around until they move the features I like from friendfeed onto facebook.
- Bryan Lee
I'm not going anywhere Helen...When it goes it goes...I'm sitting tight on the ship
- Bill Heslin
there used to be a kind of message board system ages back with FB. disppeared one day never to return, lets hope this will bring something of that back, who knows..
- Terry O'Fee
Waiting and watching. Robert, I know you have a discussion tab on FB but its not the same. ;)
- Melanie Reed
How soon before google wave becomes available to the early adopters/public?
- Bryan Lee
Mashable just published a How To Take Advantage of FriendFeed's Unique Features. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A little late for that, no?
- Stephen Pickering
didn't you just just say "FriendFeed is dead. I will keep using it until Paul unplugs the last server, which could be years" ? or i'm missing something
- Liviu Barbat
I'll stick around to the bitter end.
- Dave Metzener
Robert: Earlier in the day you were excited for both FriendFeed & Facebook. It didn't sound like you were leaving FriendFeed. What changed? Why not stick around to see what happens?
- Jill Elswick
Bryan: I heard they weren't handing out beta access to non-developers until September. Cold be wrong but that's what I heard
- Mike Elliott
I'm in wait and see mode. It would have to be absolutely sucked in by FB for me to leave it completely.
- pea
Robert, if you believe this is a good deal for both FF and FB - why are you leaving?
- George F. Snell III
When should we cue in Titanic's last song by the band as FF sinks below leaving us all behind?
- Manuel Mas
Why leave now? Until it is changed or killed, it still works just the same.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Same assessment as you, I'll stick around but I need to find an option B now. I guess I'll go wherever Louis Gray recommends
- Alberto Saavedra
I plan on sticking around for a little while longer. Not ready to jump ship yet.
- David Finch
Melanie: yeah, real time really has me going. I will wait until I get a better sense from the FriendFeed team about what will be done here. I just am not getting the right signals from the team that there will be any investment in this. If that's the case, I'd rather invest my time somewhere else. Google Wave. Ning. Vanilla on Building43. Twitter, now that I got rid of the spammers. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
I'll watch and see what happens. IF I feel that it would be useless to stay, I'll leave the site.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
I think the features of FF will be incorporated into FB (guilt free) and FB profiles will be more tied into FF. That's about all we'll see...
- Gus
Manuel: hey, Pirillo is over there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm staying here until something else catches up.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, I can definitely see the value of your invested time on any service, but for the average user, what is the downside of sticking around here as long as the site still exists?
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Scobleizer: The big crowd is not even at Friendfeed yet and you are already leaving? Someone will be by in a few minutes with a drink. Please help yourself and stick around for the conversation. You will be greatly missed should you choose to leave so soon.
- David Damore
Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing. FF probablywon't function as my Social Media hub much longer.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I like it here, so I'll hang out as long as possible.
- sean percival
Not making any set plans yet, but keeping my eyes and ears open.
- Martha
And when Google buys Twitter, won't that be interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: have you played with Wave yet? I'm wondering how good that is? I gotta get an invite. Off to beg someone cooler than me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I will continue to use it until it closes down in its current form.
- ashish
I'm a little pissed that we haven't heard much from our other "rock stars". Where the hell are they? This concerns them, yet I can hear a pin drop. I think there secretly plotting. Roflmao
- Jeunelle Foster
I don't want to but if it eventually goes down the way everybody's predicting it will then i'll have to look for alternatives :( .......by the way where do i beg for Wave invites :)
- Bhowmik Shah
I'd bet Microsoft buys Twitter before Google does.
- Gus
I haven't played with wave yet, but from what I've seen it's got potential. FriendFeed's got polish.
- Bruce Lewis
I wasn't planning on going anywhere, but I guess I'll be spending more time on Social Median. Perhaps someone should start putting together a decent buddypress site?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I might leave only because I quit facebook - I hate the mindset, the shallowness, and am afraid (make that certain) those people will come here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Gus: Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I think I'll be heading back to Twitter until Google Wave is publicly available
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Robert: Since at the end of the day all these platforms are businesses and have to eventually make money does it make sense to keep investing time and effort into building communities on them when they can sell/merge at any time and dismantle the tools that keep the community in place? it seems like the portable community concept of something like Google FriendConnect now makes more...
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- Mike Elliott
The other rock stars are drinking. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If Facebook had an easier way of connecting with people but not showing them all the personal stuff I'm willing to show to my close friends (and the stuff my friends post about me), I don't think I'd need anything like FriendFeed or Twitter.
- Edward Coffey
Robert: I've played with Wave and I wouldn't really put it in the same category as FriendFeed at the moment. It's not really about sharing and conversing in mass form IMO. Its really conversation with maybe 20 people or so but its much more difficult to focus conversations about shared content. Let everybody know when you get an invite and your address so we can add you! :)
- Brandon Titus
It kinda proves a theory I have about us all being reduced (if I can use that word) to channels. I don't think social networking will go away, but as the internet and deals increase, so does the noise. Don't worry Scobe, you still show up in our Google reader every morning!!
- professor daddyo
Man, what are we going to do without these discussions like this?
- Stephen Pickering
Mike: No community is permanent. It's worthwhile to participate even if it's temporary.
- Bruce Lewis
@Gus, Well MS has large stake in FB so I'm not sure about that. I'll stick around here till it peters out. The tech news rooms here are top notch.
- Adi
I don't use FF much other than for private rooms, so I'll stay for those. Whatever other activity I have (which is sporadic and generally not personal) will also remain.
- Cheryl
I'll stick around until they pull the plug.
- Morton Fox
Leave friendfeed? what's the alternative I'd really like to know. Is it facebook?
- Tate DA FF MVP
I'll stick with it as long as it's here and people are still active. FF4L!!
- Cassidy
What is the next thing? Where do we go now? Not FB! But where?
- Michael Liss
I won't be deleting my account, but signing in and commenting? No. No real point to continue putting data into a service that is gonna get unplugged anyway. Guess we just have to return to blogs and twitter.
- BCK
what? leave and create a better version of Twitter? or start FriendsterFeed?
- Andy Sternberg
The downside for me? I invest time in things that WILL BE not that are. That's always been what keeps my interest and now that I know that FriendFeed probably will not be, even if it takes five years to totally die, I've lost a great deal of interest in it.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: I don't think anyone knows today where to go next, because there's no good substitute out there. We can only hope that the next destination will be obvious before they pull the plug.
- Bruce Lewis
With the price of bandwith/computing halving every year, there will be a new one of these popping up pretty quick
- Stephen Pickering
I'll just go to twitter. I have a facebook account but I hate it. Facebook is the walmart of the web.
- Darrel Davis
yeah~ definitly! @Jeunelle foster please come down,
- harri78son
I see now...This whole thing was a ploy to get everyone visiting Robert's blog! I am outraged! :P
- Brandon Titus
Brandon: OK, we can go over to YOUR blog. Got Echo? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: Very true. I've tried to get into FaceBook but it's hard to get the clean conversation feed along with lifestreaming content. It just seems to be full of distracting noise even with the ability to filter with lists.
- Mike Elliott
Robert, the same could be said about Flickr, they haven't had much inovation since Yahoo bought them, but people still use the service in droves.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Don't worry Kelly, a new one of these will pop quickly, if they kill this
- Stephen Pickering
Kelly: we don't need to leave tonight. Let's trash the house first! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Brandon, that's funny. At the Boston FriendFeed meetup, everybody else had learned about FriendFeed through Scobleizer. I was the only one who found him through FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm leaving my account here for now but I'll be removing all my feeds.
- Got80s
Anyway, for the rest of today at-least I reckon I'll be off FriendFeed - real conversation is being drowned out by the echoes of this deal.
- Edward Coffey
I'm staying here until there is a reason to leave. Though I don't hold out hope they'll keep the service alive forever... obviously, I'm always enjoysthin.gs too, but it's not quite the same. I REALLY can't see myself using facebook as much as FF though.
- Ted Roden
I need an adult beverage. then I'll trash the place...
- Kelly Mitchell
I despise FB. Please let them not just trash FF.
- Adam Webb
Considering the free Google Wave protocol implementation and ejabbered work together, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly build a FF type service that's scalable. Combine that with EC2 and S3 and you could probably get a lot of runway before funding is needed. Robert, I think the next service you switch to should be part owned by you, considering I bet a lot of the traffic here was originated from you evangelizing.
- Chip Ramsey
Bryan: it's worse than that. I'm hearing that Facebook bought FriendFeed for its team. Google Superstars. Makes Zuckerberg get out his wallet.
- Robert Scoble
Where will be the next pasture Mr. Scoble?
- Rami Taibah
Stephen: lol. Yes, the 50 million dollar man. But seriously, there's no doubt what they really want is the tallent.
- Brandon Titus
I'm gutted about this, but I knew that Virb account would come in handy eventually... sorta... maybe...
- Linda Mills
Holden, yeah, but it doesn't make sense to invest energy here when its eventually going to die anyway
- Stephen Pickering
I'm new on FF so I wonder, are people leaving FF because you'll have to use FB to participate?
- Christopher Doiron
Stephen: not only for Paul. The guy who started Google Talk is at FriendFeed. So is the guy who started Google Maps.
- Robert Scoble
Robert your not processing anything from what I see..Your just gonna dump it...thanks...makes us All feel so much better....Salt in a wound?
- Bill Heslin
Christopher, it's that the FriendFeed team's new bosses will turn priorities away from the site we love.
- Bruce Lewis
They'll probably cannibalize FriendFeed... nom nom
- Kelly Mitchell
funny how many people are joining friend feed on the news of this acquisition. i'm seeing lots of my twitter followers starting to join.
- mark silva
I say its WAAAYYY too early to speculate what will happen to friendfeed next. Let the drama of today die down.
- Bryan Lee
Yeah lets all get drunk and start a fight. This whole thing is hilarious to me. Funny how media can start a panic. I ain't goin no where, I like to coloring.
- Jeunelle Foster
Bill: I said I won't leave until I hear more from the team. Why must you always be a drama queen?
- Robert Scoble
Kelly, I wish they would absorb FriendFeed, but despite the talk I don't think openness and Facebook are compatible.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, Ex-Google Superstars is how I see it too. I don't see big plans for FF the sense was we were the last thing on their minds.
- Melanie Reed
Can't help being an attention whore, its what I'm good at :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Okay so we sit tight and wait and drink. lol
- Kelly Mitchell
but there is no time to wait a special direction on internet, It's too fast!!
- harri78son
Kelly: My analogy for this is like the female praying mantis luring the male for sex, then it bites its head off. You can see the pic in my story http://bryansays.com
- Bryan Lee
I'm in the eyewear business and so I always know how to make a spectacle of myself :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Bruce: I agree. Wouldn't it be feasible for them to simply keep the two properties separate then? FriendFeed would be the open/public portion of Facebook and Facebook could stay closed and keep its current private user base.
- Brandon Titus
Bryan, pretty graphic and right on the money.
- Kelly Mitchell
Why shouldn't he pull out his wallet. FB needs to monetize. The ex Google Rockstars know just how to do that
- Stephen Pickering
I'll stick around and see what happens, but might not bother so much with another 'social' web site again.
- Grant Bierman
:) I am what I am Robert...I'm A DRAMA QUEEN? LOL that's funny....even though I'm a much better queen than you I still wuvs ya...Still processing all this as everyone else is...Sorry...might be shooting from the hip and I shouldn't
- Bill Heslin
Am I the only one excited to see how Facebook integrates FF? I have hundreds of FB friends that I know personally, yet know nobody that I am "friends" with on FF or Twitter. FB has my friends but I'd love FF's functionality.
- Chris Nunz
There's this optimistic talk about keeping FriendFeed around as R&D. I'm skeptical about it.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll leave FriendFeed as soon as there's somewhere to go to; currently, I'm not convinced there is.
- Tristan Seligmann
Also when you are hanging with the Master of the Universe for four hours, its sort of like Bill Clinton going to Korea. Kind of influences you.
- Stephen Pickering
Rami: I don't know. That's why I'm talking with you. I just know I won't continue to invest my time in something that will soon get no more investment. That's not who I am. I will hang out with Louis Gray until he finds something cool. By the way, someone gave me Google Wave already, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
This should be a reality television show. This is where the real drama queens will come out to play.
- Jeunelle Foster
Robert, I look forward to your review of Wave.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I disagree with you about Facebook and openness. They are a lot more open than they used to be and are MUCH more professional and friendly than, say, Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
Openness and Facebook are not one and the same.... polar opposites. Bah humbug.
- Kelly Mitchell
Yup the big dogs are sitting back laughing at this whole thing
- Jeunelle Foster
It doesn't necessarily have to be "R&D" but really a completely separate product. Something like YouTube is to Google. Although that's a terrible analogy...I guess the products are too similar to keep separate.
- Brandon Titus
I'd pay-per-view to see Scoble and Sebastian Bach fight
- Mattb4rd
The Chinese government is much more open than it used to be. It still doesn't meet my standards.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: also, Zuckerberg is seeing the real money is in search. So he HAS to be open to really do great there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Any chance you could share your Wave address?
- Brandon Titus
Did anyone get a chance to see Youtube HTML 5 Demo?
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon: I don't have my own address. Someone gave me theirs so can't share.
- Robert Scoble
Zuckerberg doesn't make money from other companies' search engines, so he's still limiting what data can go out. I see FB getting more open about what data they take in.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: Wave is very geeky. I think the UI has a lot of FriendFeed's problems x10. We'll see how that first impression sticks.
- Robert Scoble
And Wave will only be as good as how many users it has
- Stephen Pickering
I guess what I'm trying to say is even if you don't think your time here is an not an investment ;anymore in anything Robert...We still, or at least I do, consider your input valuable. And if you were to jump ship too soon, I think we would all lose something. So, even if things don't look good...please hang around..That's what I meant to say...
- Bill Heslin
Where will I go? Probably no where. Friendfeed was the first time I really got to feel like I found a home. Other places don't interact and blend multiple social services like Friendfeed does/did. Just as plenty of other people have said, I'm waiting for Google Wave at this point. I'm already a Google whore, might as well wait for the Wave to come through.
- Matthew Horton
Bruce: data that goes out can be embedded on blogs and websites and interact with things. Also, if you get into Google's search engine you can get a LOT of traffic, which then you can monetize on your own service.
- Robert Scoble
Not necessarily nailing the coffin shut yet here. Going to hang around and see what develops....what seems likely at the moment may be a totally different thing tommorow :O)
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
I am leaving at midnight. 2 accounts will be deleted, mine and one I manage for another site.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: Hope you enjoy Wave! The UI is definitely way off for content sharing (at least in my first impression) and more suited for group communication for the very scenarios they threw out in the demos. Get much beyond that, or have too many people and the system starts to break down. Obviously, the underlying Wave infrastructure could be used to create something similar to and better than Friendfeed.
- Brandon Titus
Yeah, the cool thing about Wave is the problem they solved with the protocol. Not really their UI implementation. I think there are huge opportunities with both Open Social and the Wave protocol.
- Chip Ramsey
OK, I have been out of touch and I guess I missed something. I see nothing wrong with staying with all the feeds I am tied to!
- Dave Sickmeier
April, please don't delete your account. We lose interesting history when people do that.
- Bruce Lewis
There is no Facebook and no FriendFeed, it is now called TwoFacedFriend...
- Kelly Mitchell
Bill: I'll be around but probably a lot less. Actually I was thinking that this was good timing. We have a new baby due in September and my other son is just starting to learn to talk, so want to spend more time hanging around with the family.
- Robert Scoble
I am gonna wait it out. If the community as a whole migrates I will go with them, but I don't want to overreact.
- Neal Jansons
it's time to have another serious look at Plaxo. There are some very clever people there too, I believe?!
- Matt Hooper
Truth is, being addicted to FriendFeed isn't a good lifestyle.
- Robert Scoble
April: why so sudden and why delete accounts? I don't get that.
- Robert Scoble
As you should. Family is much more important than any of this. And now I have to go fix my wig! LOL
- Bill Heslin
depends what they do with the service - I like friendfeed and facebook so I think it will probably work okay for me
- Nick Stone
Brandon: oh, oh. You said it "Wave doesn't scale." Not good.
- Robert Scoble
FF also has good tools for using it in moderation -- best of day, week, which you can get by email. Lists help.
- Bruce Lewis
I have been spending most of my time on Brightkite. It's a smaller community and more fun. A better alternative than twitter or facebook.
- John C Ferron
Robert, and yes when he does that (Money in Search), it will change the playing field in lateral ways across the Internet, especially in ePortfolios and other like applications that don't need to be walled gardens
- Melanie Reed
Your right, Robert, but you would eventually learn to moderate your use, and a service like this is going to be needed
- Stephen Pickering
And Leo and Dick Debartolo are on the wine train, missing all this...I envy them...lol
- Bill Heslin
Will there ever be an app that just leaves facebook out of the equation - we could only dream
- Ryan Gerritsen
i'm leaving, watching from twitter would be a better option for me.
- rama mamuaya
I am not likely to invest time in another community that I don't have a stake in. If I contribute it will be because I have a personal interest and am part of the team that runs the show. That is the only way I will feel comfortable investing my time & energy into it.
- April Russo (app103)
If we could get the other "Rock Stars" who are obviously having a "virtual prayer meeting" somewhere to get together and talk about what changes they wish to see and what they would like to see develop for social media, Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed and now this Google Wave, we would probably all feel a little better as we might be able to see down the dark cold tunnel but they're out...
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- Jeunelle Foster
i think that I'll keep posting to friendfeed until it fully integrates with facebook
- Carlos Leiva Burotto
Man, I can understand Louis' feelings. Look how much he and Scoble have put into this
- Stephen Pickering
I'll continue to use FF until there's reason not to. I'm patient enough to see what happens to it. What's the hurry?
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I just started on Friendfeed. It can't go away!
- Paul McElligott
Lets start FeedFriend - the Bizaro friendfeed minus Facebook integration
- Ryan Gerritsen
Well, I was rather hoping for some sort of joint deal between Twitter & FF... I'm not sure if I'll stick around in FF or not. I'm definitely not a fan of Facebook
- Tim Bergman
Paul, that's what so frustrating. Just given time, we know it would have caught on
- Stephen Pickering
This really SUCKS because when you don't have great "developers" to put something together like FriendFeed, you're really just gonna have to either take it up the ass or commit suicide. I'll hang myself 1st with all my clothes on :)
- Jeunelle Foster
I'm wherever good, smart peeps are ('cuz I'm not smart enough). I don't invest much in tools - it's the people I care for. I'm not gonna abandon FF now but I understand that we'll need a way to foster the kind of community that got fostered here. Nothing lasts forever - and that's mostly a good thing in the long run.
- phil baumann
from Android
i'll be here until either the bitter end or something else comes along ... i'm really hoping that the ff-team will turn facebook into more of what it was before the apps came along... i think that's when FB really took a downward turn for me
- Chris Heath
Venues like this will come and go, the whole social media landscape is in a constant state of flux I don't see why so many are up in arms. The life cycle of all the current venues are short and most of the leaders are nearing the end of their lives as we know it. But fear not, many new shiny toys will be bestowed upon us to play with. Now let's be social again! (ps. I'm sure we've seen NOTHING yet!)
- Paul Monaco
Tweet: the cheese is in Zuckerberg's office! :-)
- Robert Scoble
And for anyone that wants to know why I am deleting my account and not just moving away and leaving it to rot like i would normally do...just read the policies of facebook. Anywhere I have an account with data I don't want to be exploited commercially, in a way that exploits me personally, I'd delete it just as fast if the service were bought by facebook.
- April Russo (app103)
Zuckerberg is Master of the Universe. He spent 4 hours with Paul Friday. That would have an effect on anyone
- Stephen Pickering
I know I am able to post status updates in Facebook to "Everyone" now, but when will we be able to search these open status updates?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
I can't wait till my mom gets one of my "Queenie" updates....that's gonna b fun...lol..
- Bill Heslin
Kevin, when God, ie Mark Zuckerberg, says you can
- Stephen Pickering
I love FF but I think this is a great move. If FB takes the best ideas from FF and they open it up theres is so much potential for a great community.
- Gary Gannon
Definitely see what happens... Not looking forward to Facebook turning this into a free-for-all like Facebook :-)
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Gary a potential for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- Stephen Pickering
Not going anywhere for the time being. I'm not a big Twitter fan, and unless FB makes some big time changes, it just doesn't do it for me. Will be listening for any other social media that might come round the bend.
- Bonnie Foster
We are getting tired of all those constant platform changes, aren't we?
- Harald Felgner
Herald and Stephen, Yes! More and different is not always better, just more and different.
- Melanie Reed
I can't leave Facebook. I have too much built up there. And that won't do anything anways. It will just be a small blip to them.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
so what content aggregator in the absence of FF?
- WarLord
My apologies if this has already been asked, but Robert you are very close the FF team. You had no idea this was coming?
- Ben Hanten
I'm not leaving. I like FriendFeed and Facebook.
- Kimber Scott
Ben: not one iota. I did sense that they were struggling to figure out how to compete, but didn't think they would sell. Paul always told me he didn't want to sell.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I'm confused - on the one hand you've said this is such a great thing for FF as well as FB - but on the other hand you also say you're leaving FF because of of it. Why - if this is such a great thing for FF?
- Matthew Blaisdell
WarLord: there isn't a good aggregator. That's why it's stupid to delete your feeds.
- Robert Scoble
OK, a friend talked me down. He told me I'd be saying sorry for starting this post by the 400th comment. He's usually right. So, instead of saying sorry, I'm going drinking. See ya in the lobby in 10 minutes!
- Robert Scoble
I may be dense about this, but why would you leave until you saw which way it was going?
- Jerry Kidd
Good question, Jerry. I wanna know this, too.
- Brad Williamson
Robert, I think he struggled with it, but 4 Hours with Mark is a big persuasion
- Stephen Pickering
Matthew: I expect that the engineers will get put onto Facebook. So, if the smartest people are working on Facebook and not on FriendFeed, why would I stay here? Why wouldn't I start moving my work and social graph and all that over to Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
LOL...there ya go Robert...I knew you would come around...Drink Drink!!! have a really nice cocktail...
- Bill Heslin
The people I've come to know on FriendFeed are what I'd miss though, so I'd like to take my social graph with me wherever I might end up next. There's a business opportunity right there.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
When I think about it - I found your post as well as the TechCrunch article via Google Friend Connect. So maybe it is time to join that Wave!?
- Harald Felgner
Jerry: I said I was going to wait until I talk with the team more, but the things I'm hearing tell me they've already been bought to work on Facebook proper. So, unless someone tells me that's wrong, that tells me I should spend more and more of my time over on Facebook and not here. But my friend convinced me I'm being hasty and emotional. :-O
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Scoble said early on in this thread that he invests his time into emerging networks, not things that "are already here" I think thats why he will be moving on to the next big thing, like google wave or watchever new social network emerges out of this. I suspect that another startup will emerge to try and fill the shoes left behind by friendfeed. This is always the case. When napster left, you had morpheus and kazaa, then bit torrents.
- Bryan Lee
Robert - Makes sense - except that it still doesn't seem like a great day for Friendfeed - if it just gets abandoned (by FB as well as by leaders like you...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Matthew: FriendFeed=Facebook. It's a great day for both. Cause I'll end up at Facebook either way! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, these are just the emotional ramblings of someone trying to figure out how the world shifted today. Have fun!
- Robert Scoble
clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm just curious what new startup will roll into the limelight because of this announcement?
- Bryan Lee
Robert, FriendFeed != Facebook - look at the quality of commentary/people here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
FriendFeed can stop improving right now, and I'll still stick around until something else catches up. Maybe that something else will be Facebook. I'll wait and see.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm probably out. Back to open source for me at this point. Time to take another look and see how things have progressed with Laconica, JaikuEngine, NoseRub, and some of the other secondary options. I may also go crawling back to Twitter. Given a choice between Twitter and Facebook... sigh...
- Ken Sheppardson
Monique: It's not about rapid change, it's about where to invest effort. I don't really have any interest in investing my time and energy on Facebook... so why wait?
- Ken Sheppardson
Steve: Yeah, you're probably right. I appreciate the work Bret, Paul, Benjamin, et al have done, and I was really looking forward to where they were taking things... before they were taking it to Facebook.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think I will just stay on twitter, because I can't stand facebook.
- Tomy Thomson
Stephen: FF has died? Well, then, how am I typing to you?
- Robert Scoble
Tomy, why change? You can listen to the Beatles and the Stones!
- Stephen Pickering
Ken: it's all good. they're moving to a radically larger playground, and they can't afford to abandon those who appreciate them
- Steve Gillmor
They will keep FF just will make it better
- Johni Fisher
I'll wait to learn more before making any decisions
- Herb Hernandez
Robert, well, metaphorically. Whether its a few months or a year
- Stephen Pickering
Tomy: Twitter is like Facebook but without likes and comments. Oh, wait, Facebook is a lot like FriendFeed already. I just commented on Louis Gray's item there. Oh, and there's applications. We can play games! :-) Herb: I'll try to go see the team next week. I'm also interviewing Yelp.
- Robert Scoble
But Steve, what if the larger "playground" turns out to be very different from the one pitched to them? What if the FF team finds that their vision isn't shared after all?
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, ok maybe you are right. Maybe it will be like the R&D. That would be great!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: are you trying to get on the Gillmor Gang? We seem to kill things before they are really dead there too.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert , you make friendfeed slower ! I guess you should leave here really x)
- Melissa Taylor
Anyway, I'm going drinking. For real this time.
- Robert Scoble
I'm planning on easing out of Friendfeed in the next couple of days, so I can get the contacts of people I know on here and who's opinions I value.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Steve, oh yes, If I were him, I would pull out all stops to get this team. I totally understand from a business perspective, all perspectives
- Stephen Pickering
@Steve @Bruce, here's the post http://jungleg.com/2009... -- it's a crazy idea but GR could make an extra effort and put up a better web experience
- Jorge Escobar
I like FriendFeed, a lot, but too few of my friends use the service to make it really useful. So I guess I'll leave.
- Adam Washington
Adam, stay, if even only for the aggregating features
- Stephen Pickering
YES he's sitting in the back laughing while drinking Peppermint Schnaps
- Jeunelle Foster
Scobles outta here. He went to get a life! hehehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
totally staying....this really is just the beginning....and, i just built FF into all of my Intro to Soc sections!!!!
- Chad Gesser
I thought you said you'd hand in there until they turn the last server off. What changed your mind?
- Paul Chaney
Speaking of Google. What was the point of them buying Jaiku and doing nothing with it?
- Bryan Lee
I'll at least stay for aggregation and extending 140 character tweets, and pray maybe it will become Facebooks R&D, but I know that's a longshot
- Stephen Pickering
I should get a life too but alas the temptation is too great for "attention whoring"
- Jeunelle Foster
Regarding the "team's plans", I really don't expect to hear anything from Bret, Paul, et al. At this point I'm happy to let the Facebook (i.e. the non-FriendFeed) folks try to convince me that they're ready to do things differently. That involves more than just hiring a team.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, maybe Paul can influence Mark not "to be evil"
- Stephen Pickering
those who think FB has any choice but to go down the FF road are not thinking this through
- Steve Gillmor
@Stephen, I was alternating between friendfeed and twitter (stones and beatles, respectively :P) but I don't see the point in staying with a dying technology, which unfortunately is where friendfeed is headed. The tech of friendfeed itself will hopefully live on in facebook. I really think facebook has become a slightly less obnoxious version of myspace, and that's being nice.
- Tomy Thomson
Steve, Oh, I totally understand. It was genius of them. Proves how Mark is indeed Master of the Universe
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, self-interest does not guarantee anything. People and companies can act irrationally.
- Bruce Lewis
So Steve, do you see two separate properties indefinitely? Or does Facebook just slowly start too look more FF-like, then one day they redirect friendfeed.com to facebook.com?
- Ken Sheppardson
*eye roll* thread is getting to the point where it's too long and people are now asking questions that have been answered thrice.....Lock down time.
- Matthew DeVries
ff was the important value, not twitter
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, why didn't Ff take over FB? Yeah Facebook has the money, but it's the inferior product.
- Matthew DeVries
Oh sure, who do you want in your office, Ev or Paul Bucheit? Paulllllll!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen, didn't the TechCrunch article say that the FF team would be split between two bosses, neither of which was Mark?
- Bruce Lewis
That's right. Paul may end up running that thing, or at least be No.2
- Stephen Pickering
@ Robert: The majority of apps on FB are useless imo. Every time I log on I get bombarded by 'add your relative' and 'blackjack' app requests. And don't get my started on the quizzes and other BS. Ah well, I will join your fan page on facebook!
- Tomy Thomson
Wow - isn't this jumping to conclusions? No one has said anything's going away, nor do we know what they're doing to do with it. Stick around, wait to see what happens, then jump. Nothing's happened yet - I think it will all be for the better in the end and you'll know where to go when the FF Team says Jump.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt, he's gonna sit on it for a while, see what shakes out
- Stephen Pickering
jesse skip to the bottom for the apology
- Steve Gillmor
The FF Team hasn't let us down yet, have they? I still trust them - only when they break that trust do we jump.
- Jesse Stay
@Scobleizer I've been on Google Wave for about a week working on an interesting idea I have for it. It's very promising but its very alpha right now. You won't find it worth your time just yet.
- Noah White
Ah - sorry Robert - didn't see the clarification towards the bottom. Thanks Steve.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you still in the Boston area?
- Bruce Lewis
Why rush to judgment? Even if the "team's plans" are off-base, what's the base? And what's off? Experience, resourcefulness, respect for users and smarts under fire all matter more than "plans." Wait & keep seeing.
- Doc
What the hell? Just because someone buys FriendFeed everyone has to ditch it? ABORT SHIP, ABORT SHIP! Doesn't really make sense so soon. Has anything changed yet? Is it the end of the world? Don't just leave because everyone says they will either. Stick around, the ship is still afloat.
- Nick Humphries
But, if they did pull the plug, with bandwidth and computing halving every year, there would be another one of these pop up in no time
- Stephen Pickering
I don't see a point in leaving Friendfeed until the doors close on us... if and when that happens.
- Alex Knight
Actually facebook is the most popular rss reader of all time :)
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Bruce, we just left today. I'm actually in Niagara Falls, NY right now. Just finished watching a beautiful view of the Falls at night.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, if anybody can persuade me (us?) that Facebook is going to be good for the FF team it's you. Maybe write a blog post or something.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm in it to win it. FF isn't shutting down tomorrow or next week. But it's funny to me that so many dicuss the content... It's the connections made with others that are in jeopardy, not the LOLCat photos...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Because of Quantum Wave effects there are an infinite number of Universes, some of which The Gillmor Gang is still broadcasting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce, I'll be working on a post really soon. Also, Louis Gray and I are going to record a phone call about it tomorrow, which I think should prove useful. I've got a lot of knowledge about Facebook, and he does about FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt, oh yeah, I totally get that and so does Scoble, but you've got to understand his short term hurt. Look at how much energy he put into this thing, and what did he get? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
You mean McLuhan is in Scoble's body? He's in the movie Being Robert Scoble?
- Doc
Nonsense Stephen he gets paid in attention every single time
- Steve Gillmor
I was wondering how long this would take to happen. Soon as I saw FF being purchased by Facebook I knew you would bolt. Not 100% surprising.
- Christopher Mercer
Part of beauty of FF: all their shows are taped. And yet open ended.
- Nick in Manila
It depends how much FF changes. No reason to leave until and unless it gets annoying.
- Igor Goldkind
It's "I'll respect you in the morning."
- Sean Gallagher
Oh, I'm not leaving. Hell, I even still have a myspace account. It's just a question of engagement
- Stephen Pickering
Good night all. Tip for Jeunelle: You get more attention if you make your feed public. Make a group for your private stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
they'll have to scrub this one pretty good before they shut it down
- Steve Gillmor
@scobleizer that means half of the total activity on friendfeed will be reduced
- Sidharth Dassani
Maybe if Facebook hadn't stolen all Scoble's data, he'd stop worrying and learn to love them.
- Sean Gallagher
Actually even os Brasileiros are coming over to FB
- Stephen Pickering
My mother is on Facebook. The end is nigh.
- Sean Gallagher
"Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention" - says who? I only stepped away to pour me a nice glass of Sauvengion Blanc", and thank you Bruce for the advice I'll look into that tomorrow. After all tomorrow is another day. Twiddly Dee
- Jeunelle Foster
there is no reason to leave. I seriously doubt facebook will kill it.
- Logan Lindquist
Maybe if I blog my twitter of Scoble's FriendFeed and then link it from Facebook via a Digg of a del.icio.us bookmark, it will create a singularity and this thread will have never happened.
- Sean Gallagher
Can someone comment on what April Russo said about Facebook content policy? Seems like a very important piece of the puzzle.
- metalerik
I wouldn't worry about it. The markets will take care of it. If Facebook becomes evil, the masses will fork somewhere else. We're in the age of Openness
- Stephen Pickering
I will only leave friend feed if it becomes a facebook clone. I can't stand facebook but I still use it cause my friends and family use it, but if friendfeed becomes annoying like face book then I see no point in staying here.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
You know Sean maybe smarter than he looks....hmmmmm :) and what's with that bird head?
- Jeunelle Foster
Quote of the Day: "Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)" - Robert Scoble
- Diego Barros
It's a starling fledgeling. The perfect symbol for social networking-- it eats whatever you give it, then poops on you.
- Sean Gallagher
That's what I want to reincarnate as....an angry poopin bird
- Jeunelle Foster
Just reading all the news about FF and FB. Disapoints me personally, biz wise nice job. Um not a huge FB user so I don't know what my plans are yet. Like you wait a bit and see....
- Bryan Thatcher
from iPhone
I hope FF doesn't go away and fold in to FB. I don't need FB. It's like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight.
- Diego Barros
I won't leave FF until they make me or there's no community left. Whichever comes first.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Well, it's made me think twice about vesting too much into any one service (so has the demise of tr.im). I use Facebook, Twitter, Livejournal, and FF all pretty equally, so I guess I'm not feeling this as much as some.
- Bill Kinney
Jannifer, Yes we will on his JS-Kit Echo commenting system he will put on his blog. It's real time like this
- Stephen Pickering
I'm leaving. Google Wave, Twitter, Reader will plenty suffice now. Farewell, former friend.
- Californian
Oh Stephen - I'm not sure what that is... but it won't be like Friendfeed. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
At some point I imagine I will. I have no interest in joining facebook. When I do depends on what facebook does with ff.
- Quasar
I'm sticking around till FB screws it up. But I was keeping FF separate from FB because most of my FB friends are my born-again Christian relatives who won't like the controversial stuff of mine that makes it onto FF's news feed. Still, I'm going to look for other similar sites. Posterous is one.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm not leaving but I'm not moving to Facebook. The main thing for me is to keep the contacts I've gained from FriendFeed and hope we all can meet on another similar service somewhere somehow.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe. But i really want Google Wave invite.
- ★ Soner Gönül
It's hard to say at this point. The only thing that's changed is who pays the server bill. Ask me in a week. And yes, a Google Wave invite would sure go a long way to make this better for me.
- Dale
Leaving a favorite site isn't always a conscious decision for me. The cool site loses its cool and you just kind of drift off.
- Dale
from email
Oh yeah, and I added my Posterous blog to my FriendFeed feed, so you'll be seeing whatever I post there in your home feed here. That is, if you subscribe to me here, or if one of your subscribers likes or comments. Me, leave? Not yet! ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm loyal until they make it worth me leaving.
- Jesse Stay
I'm here until they slam the gates shut. But I am hiding all your BS posts about it being a good thing :)
- jcunwired
If you want to be sure that I quit Friendfeed you have to see my burial. I will never quit while being alive! :-)
- Kolja
I'm staying but it's like when you know that the company you work for has been bought by someone else and might close it, you lose motivation and start looking for another job, it's hard to invest time and energy if there might be no future. Not that the future of FF was guaranteed before but now it does not look good at all.
- M F
I'm heading to Plurk! who's with me? *tumbleweed*
- Iain Baker
Friendfeed is two totally different things: the original RSS aggregation service, and a social network service/community. Lifestream.fm is a reasonable replacement for the former. As to the latter, it's the people, not the tech they're using, that makes FF special. I've benefited greatly as a 'consumer' here, reading posts - if that continues on Facebook, it will probably get me to...
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- SteamCentral
i'll be around until it becomes unbearable, probly until it's been damaged badly by FB style feature creep and riddled with ads and spammers. oh, and absolutely stupid censorship policies. that'll be a real killer.
- Joe Silence disconnected
The CloneFeed group has given me some interest. It gives some hope in case FF really goes away or merges badly with FB. I like FB but just don't want to fully mix the two activities/audiences.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'd rather keep my Friendfeed as my "professional aggregation" and Facebook as personal stuff. I blog, tweet, etc. stuff that a lot of my friends could care less about. And I post stuff to Facebook that isn't interesting or relevant to clients / followers.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Google Wave is what I am looking for. The problem with moving to Facebook is that I use it for close friends and family so things like comments and pics etc that I post to it I would not want to have available to all of the contacts I have on FF at the moment. Mainly because I like to separate those I know from those that I converse with if that makes sense. I loved that on FF I could...
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- Travis Koger
Whilst I am not 'leaving' FF, I will not be investing anywhere near the type of interaction I have done previous to yesterday's announcement as I just see it as wasted time.
- Travis Koger
I have to wait & see what, I don't want to lose the community; where do I go? This feels like Pownce all over!
- clarke thomas
Nope, not yet. I still dream about FF and FB to coexist. I think Facebook is even more boring now, after this announcement. Anyone else feels this way?
- Patrik Johansson
Not me. I will be glad when all the people who say they are leaving do so my feed won't be full of people saying they are leaving.
- Alan Simpson
FF is my first big social networking investment (or time) - I'll stay and then move, if forced. I'll certainly investigate other tools in an effort to fill any gap left by FaceFeed.
- Jason Miller
I just saw that a woman's twittering her childbirth made the front page of BBC's world news webpage. I don't know to make of it, but I don't want to hang out at Twitter much anymore.
- Mitch
Mitch: we Twittered our childbirth in 2007 and we will again in September, but probably not on our main account.
- Robert Scoble
won´t leave!!! i LOVE friendfeed. @Mitch i know what you mean. So many stories and this is the one they picked?
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
i think i'm stayin, and wait what's goin on facebook. i will feel upset if they dont allow the users to make their choice of using one or other site, but looks like they gonna force to use FB instead of FF :(
- Dani Martínez
Not sure how on board with FriendFeed I ever was to begin with to be honest...
- Gurpreet
FriendFeed will be fine - FaceBook is fine - and so is Twitter - I might check out AmpliFeeder, I suspect quite a few FriendFeeders will migrate there as the days go by.
- Chris Loft
Not leaving FF but I can't wait till it's properly integrated with Facebook. Interesting thing: Wave's API is open so there's nothing to stop Facebook creating an app to make Facebook & Wave work great together. Not so much either/or as and... and..!
- Matt Moran
Has anyone tried amplifeeder? edit: so far don't see any friending abilities though
- metalerik
Why leave? But will be open to see other options - facebook doesn't (currently) provide to me what I get here.
- amygeek
OH NO, I just finish moving all my stuff HERE!
- Terence
Robert: I closed down my embeds today. Sad for my blog.
- Mark Essel
I stay on FriendFeed, on Twitter, on Facebook, etc.
- Emmanuel Gadenne
I won't delete my account, but as FF morphs into the ball of confusion that is Facebook, I won't be very active.
- Jeremy Brooks
I will. No point sticking around when you know it is going to die sooner or later. With twitter you still have the hope....
- Davide D'Incau
I'll leave Facebook if FF gets harmed. And go back to Identi.ca... ;-)
- Torrid Luna
Yeah, I'll probably leave Facebook too. If they're going to "steal" the FriendFeed functions and just let FF die, I will not have any sympathies left for Facebook. I'll go "all Google" or something.
- Patrik Johansson
I'll stay on FF, FB and T, and BK, and other, BrightKite is not well utilised, is good even on beta.
- Andy Ghozali
I joined posterous for blogging/lifestreaming and will continue to use twitter. I might go on facebook once in a while, which is what I was doing anyway.
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: If you're looking for an awesome real-time discussion platform, you should migrate to Fluther. http://www.fluther.com
- Ben
I'm staying put and watching the ship sink. I'd really like to believe that FriendFeed will have some longevity, but I won't hedge my bets.
- Tyson Key
Steve Gillmor said "clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here." so for now, FF looks like the space.
- Barbara K. Iverson
I intend to stick around to see what Facebook have planned. I think the takeover has everything to do with the direction FB's been heading in lately, what with their open challenge to Twitter
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't see it as leaving, but rather seeing the possibility that it might leave us. FF was and still is just about my favorite site and uberaggregatorthing that I ever saw....
- Rob Schieber
Nope... I'll stay, even if I ride it to a bitter end.
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
depends. if they stay seperate services, i wont like the acquisition,but i'll stay. if they become 1 service, i'm out. and where is every1 going from friend feed anyhow. what else is there?
- echostreamer
Will wait and see what happens with FB
- Ted Kinzer
fb ruins everything. Have the Privacy policy "not "changed since fb came into the pic? Can they not build their own ideas instead of buying everyone else's? leave us geeks to play in our playground and stay in yours. greedy buggers. The second they pull a skanky fb move i'm out. bitches.
- seastarerrin
Leaving no. Checking out other venues yes.
- Martha
Just maybe Facebook will listen to the Friendfeed engineers in charge of user interface/usability starting with the type size and fonts. Not all marriages are made in heaven. Culture clashes are sure to pop up.
- Alan Morris
I was about to focus a little more on FF but since I heard about the purchase and read rumors about FF being integrated in FB and being shutdown and all this, I'm getting a little ... well.. undecided.. Just checked Streamy, didn't like it. If a.tinythread.com get's more development, this might be the next thing to migrate to. I'm sure not moving to FaceBook. I have my account, I have...
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- Dan van Moll
Not interested in being part of Facebook. Goodbye, FriendFeed. :-(
- TranceMist
I wish more folks would see the big picture. We need to focus on independent projects that are NOT part of the Google-Yahoo-Microsoft borg. As soon as a site gets absorbed it is time to find another independent site. Yes, I do realize that some may have actually been part all along and only pretending they were independent in the first place - especially if they were founded by...
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- Internet Strategist
I say it's time to get some talented developers together to create our own site. People have been complaining about UI issues with FriendFeed for a long time. Now we can address them on our own.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It will. Buy-outs like these don't happen and then everything stays status quo. Basically what I expect to happen is this: Facebook will absorb all of the best FriendFeed features which will make FriendFeed 'obsolete'. They'll expect us to join into FriendBook or FaceFeed or whatever you want to call it when FriendFeed will inevitably get shut down.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If everyone was so good at reinventing the wheel, we'd have flying cars in our garages by now.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I am totally disappointed myself. I can't stand Facebook... the only reason I have an account is for less-tech-savvy old friends and acquaintances to find me on the web.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
As a consumer of a service when changes are made you have the right to feel any way you want about it, including anger. You can even choose to stop using the service as I imagine some of the FriendFeed population will do.
- matthew john ernisse
I'm reserving judgement until we see what happens. Right now it's just an announcement. I hope they keep the platforms separate, but have some kind of integration. What I don't want it having all my subscribers become FaceBook friends. I like the platforms separate.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I'd reserve judgment. Beyond that congrats to the team which I'm sure made some good money off of this.
- Nation Hahn
It's like we've all been told we have a terminal disease. They're not sure when we're going to all die but that we should continue to enjoy our lives before the time runs out.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I don't know about you guys, but the vast majority of my friends on Facebook don't give a crap what I do online. The ones that do are over here already anyway. This is good for the team, but bad for the audience here.
- Jordan Hofker
They never gave a damn about their users. As evidenced by completely ignoring all input about changes. I guess the real question, is what did they do first, blow off expensive hooker's asses or buy Bentleys with spinners?
- Matthew DeVries
Maybe Paul, Bret, and co. will take the money, leave the company, and start a new one. That will eventually be sold for the sweet tech to Facebook. Then rinse, repeat. (!)
- Jordan Hofker
My boyfriend (who is in a state of protest and is now refusing to use FF) wants to know, does anyone know what computer language(s) have been used to create FF? He's guessing C# is involved.
- Kamilah Gill
As far as I know, it's C++ on the back-end and Javascript up front.
- Akiva Moskovitz
This is the most technical detail I remember seeing from Friendfeed staff: http://bret.appspot.com/entry... They make heavy use of Python, but I imagine there is also a fair amount of C/C++ in there. (I would assume more C than C++).
- Jason Wehmhoener
Their use of MySQL is quirky, nonstandard, innovative, and obviously works. Facebook also has quite a history of bending MySQL and PHP into new, interesting and generally unrecognizable shapes. It's the wild and crazy world of distributed data + HTTP + pushbutton web.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Regarding the languages FriendFeed's written in: "[...]pretty much all Python except for our search engine, which is Java." - Bret Taylor (c.f. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) Not sure where people got C/C++/C#.
- Mark Trapp
Speaking of pushbutton, this is definitely a good time to go reread Anil Dash's post about it: http://dashes.com/anil... You and I may not have a pile of ex-google cash lying around for a server farm, but it may not be necessary if we get pushbutton right.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Thanks Mark. I should have guessed that since Google is pretty much a Python/Java shop.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yeah, Jason, I was thinking Google reader would be the next home.
- Matthew DeVries
I was sort of expecting something with Reader too, but oh well. Reader has certainly been looking more Friendfeed-like recently anyway.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Akiva is right. Anyone who has even a cursory knowledge of corporate takeovers knows the pattern that follows when a smaller company is bought out by a larger one. The same principle is at work here.
- Steven Perez
GDGT? We all like gadgets. Like to a man, we all like some kind of Gadget. If we can just get them to change out that infuriating tiered threading system.....
- Matthew DeVries
:( I just found out about this news a little while ago. It's like Jaiku all over again for me. I thought it was good news that Google bought Jaiku because I thought it meant Jaiku would get better and finally gain popularity. Unfortunately it ended up being the exact opposite. **sigh** Now I feel like this situation is worse because Facebook has a bad rep for messing with personal copyright and such. This doesn't sound good...
- Cheryl Jones
from iPhone
Interesting thought, Joe, after all, Reader has (like facebook) borrowed more and more features from friendfeed over the last year or so. Still, I'd rather have a friendfeed. I personally think we shouldn't write friendfeed off just yet....but if it disappears, maybe someone else will step in and fill the void.
- Slappy Line
http://drop.io/ maybe already have the needed real-time core. in the moment it's a bunch of drops, so with a small application to keep track of the created drops (by user, room etc.) it will be pretty close to FriendFeed.
- Stoyan Zhekov
Thought of this again this morning. I first posted this in response to the new FriendFeed experience, but now it's just as apropos after FriendFeed's acquisition.
- Mark Trapp
That last C&H comic always chokes me a up a bit. Bill Watterson's philosophy was always great.
- Matt Mastracci
good call Mark... i've seen enough acquisitions to know how this party is going to end... but there is always something new to be found rising on the horizon... very bittersweet
- Jeffrey Marsh
that would be quite silly. (to leave in a rush)
- Nathan Chase
Exactly Nathan. We're an organized people. I'm sure we can form a single file line and the last one out can shut the door behind them.
- James Ferguson
I'm not out the door until I'm pushed out. If the service continues to show the same level of excellence it has to date, I'll be here, no matter who owns it. If Facebook doesn't maintain this place and its promise, I (and others) will eventually drift away. (Of course, given the "press release," it feels like the death watch has begun. Part of that is just transition stuff, but I got a definite feeling of a rudderless ship from some of the press release.)
- Scott of Two Countries
I guess I'll wait it out. I don't know of any other services like this. And I am addicted to this. So until the massive influx of facebook kids occurs I'm toughing it.
- Kevin Winn
i'm sitting tight. but as soon as it goes south i am in the wind. won't be the first time.
- Joe Silence disconnected
oh, and you'd better delete any content (photos for instance) you posted in your feed that you don't want FB to own when they get their claws in.
- Joe Silence disconnected
I'm just going to lay low like I have recently... and wait for the final verdict.
- Brandon
I'm not planning on fleeing but I am going to safety-check my parachute and ready a backpack full of MREs.
- Spidra Webster
I plan on backing up or deleting things I don't want to lose or have available to Facebook to use as they see fit. I'd like to maintain the connections here from my sub list, too, somehow. And I'll be exploring other non-Facebook service options (Posterous seems a frontrunner as replacements go). Once that's done, it won't matter when the plug here gets pulled, and I can shut down the last of my account and walk away.
- abacab