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Getty Images Launches “Call for Artists” on Flickr - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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A few weeks ago I wrote a post about my first six months experience selling images through Getty’s Flickr Collection. While overall I’ve been pleased with my experience with Getty, one of the things that I always felt was a limitation was the fact that the Getty/Flickr program was invite only. And while literally thousands of Flickr photographers have been invited thus far (the Flickr/Getty private member only contributor group on Flickr counts over 12,000 members and Getty says that the collection now includes over 60,000 photographs) there wasn’t really a way for a photographer to try and be included in the program if they didn’t get a Flickr invite. Until today.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm not the target audience for this (my stuff is too "all over the place" and not high enough quality) but I'm encouraged that this seems to be opening up for the little guy and not some Flickr Clique like it originally seemed. The whole point of Flickr should be inclusiveness and community and strapping the Getty wall into the middle of it really pissed me off. I don't think any...
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- Sam Posten
Cooliris Just Became The Coolest New Way to Browse Flickr - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Lucio, John, Anthony Citrano and 62 other people liked this
Nice!
- l0ckergn0me
been waiting for this for a long time. Now you can seamlessly browse Cooliris in a browser tab enabling you to cmd-click / ctl-click images and have them load in background tabs to fave/comment/etc later. This new release is really great news.
- Thomas Hawk
About time!
- Simon Wicks
LOL, they don't have a version that works with 3.5 currently that I can find. So you have to wait a little longer on that. I love the app though, and was so excited to see this.
- Jimminy Fuller
Humm. Seems that its only works in browser view, if you hit the fullscreen view and do the command click it closes out and goes back to normal. Still opens the tab behind though. So, almost there for me :)
- Simon Wicks
and i just realised you said browse in a browser tab... Silly me :(
- Simon Wicks
I am using it in 3.5.
- Kreg Steppe
BTW, Thomas...have you used the Slideshow on Flickr to browse contacts? I would do that and fav from it.
- Kreg Steppe
I have Kreg, this is far better than Slideshow. The ability to increase both size and speed with the mouse is massive. I've seen nothing on the web more visually enticing for photos than Cooliris.
- Thomas Hawk
Kreg, I'll have to see if I can get it to update then.
- Jimminy Fuller
I agree Thomas. I have used Coloris in the past. I love it...and it is more useful now.
- Kreg Steppe
from email
Thanks for the info. I had it once but didn't find it useful, the new version looks much more useful. About the hyperlink: if it takes you to a page that tries to get you to use cooliris than it best be used in moderation. When photoplow started up and encouraged chatters to post comments to photos with the line "seen in a discussion on photoplow" there were spam complaints in the help...
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- Theresa
Yeah, I hear you Theresa, but browsing a pool/set/etc using it is just so damn beautiful and now that they've got the cmd/click piece down it makes it fully operable as a way to both browse photos and interact. It might be hard for me to resist posting links to great sets/pools/etc. with it. Here's another GREAT view, the DMU saved photos pool: http://www.cooliris.com/tab...
- Thomas Hawk
I tried it once before and found its operation kind of clunky, even though it is very visually appealing. I'll have to give the new version another try.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
John the new version feels smooth as a silk.
- Thomas Hawk
This is a step in the right direction. It's still a bit clunky on my iMac Core 2 Duo 2.8Ghz.
- Chris Luckhardt
Now if I could just get it to default back to fullscreen instead of a tab, I'd be real happy. Been using Cooliris for a long time. Changed the way I browse the web.
- mike fabio
Thx for this, cooliris is a wonderful tool!
- timepilot
i used cooliris back in the day, but i think ill need to install this again...
- Cassidy
Thanks for posting, Thomas! Good to have you back on Cooliris - we hope we can keep rolling out releases that you and everyone else will love :) And for those of you who may have been experience FF3.5 compatibility problems with Cooliris, please go back to our site and download Cooliris again. That should take care of any problems.
- Cooliris
For pages that have 2 Media RSS feeds, Cooliris 1.9 would find the one with id="gallery". That feature was handy because you could have one blog-style feed with media and another slideshow-optimized feed. The feature is missing in 1.10 and 1.11. Will it return in a future release?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I must be missing something... how do i integrate flickr into cooliris? as in, how do i view a photostream or set?
- thekillingjoke
Bruce, not sure at the moment, but we'll be keeping that in mind. I'll submit it as a feature request!
- Cooliris
nevermind... i see how to do it now.
- thekillingjoke
I absolutely LOVE Cool Iris -- secret: make your PowerPoint slides image files and zip thru your preso with Cool Iris and watch your audience's jaws drop on the conf. rm table :)
- Susan Beebe
Impressive. Great way to view photos on Facebook too.
- Mike Doeff
They still haven't implemented the one or two features which I consider most important. 1. The ability to Fav (on Flickr) a photo without leaving the Cooliris interface. 2. The ability to comment on a photo (on Flickr) without having to leave the Cooliris interface. Having to bounce in and out of Cooliris, even if just between browser tabs is very disruptive.
- TranceMist
TranceMist, hear you loud and clear - will also add to feature request. We love your feedback/ideas about Cooliris so keep it coming! :)
- Cooliris
Is there a way to make Cooliris open a picture in a new tab just by control clicking the main picture? The only way I can get the new tab feature to work is to control click on the tiny arrow at lower right...
- Sam Posten
Sam - yes, clicking the arrow icon is still the way to launch Cooliris. We'll look into the ctrl click you suggested!
- Cooliris
Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 5.4 Release Candidate Now Available - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
Daniel Rowley, Kol Tregaskes, Mrsth and Robert Scoble liked this
No Lightroom counterpart?
- Sam Posten
Microsoft Future Pro Photograher Contest - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Nicholas James, Christopher Brocious, James Myatt and 17 other people liked this
The Microsoft Future Pro Photographer contest is a great contest put on for student photographers. If you are presently a student at a two or four year advanced degree institution and are over 18 years of age you are eligible to submit photos. If you are a college student this is an excellent contest to participate in and possibly win up to $20,000. Submissions are being accepted from March 1, 2009 to April 30, 2009 and the winner will be announced at the Microsoft Pro Photo Summit this July. The Grand Prize winner will receive $20,000 in addition to three of First Place winners in categories of Nature and Landscape; People and Portraits; and Sports and Photojournalism who also receive a cash prize of $3,000; all winners will receive a digital workflow prize package as well.
- Thomas Hawk
Do you have to promise to be a pro in the future?
- Stephen Mack
I don't think so Stephen :)
- Thomas Hawk
I just saw this on the blog, I'm somewhat bewildered, this doesn't seem like a TH Post to me. There's not a single 'I' anywhere in the post, it seems like pure advertorial pimping than anything I've ever seen you do. I don't mind ya making a buck Thom but hell any time you've given good rep to a product it's been something you use and you can say good things about from a personal perspective... Something just doesn't seem right here. Thumbs down.
- Sam Posten
"Future Pro" is just such a weird name for a contest, has a very '50s hovercar-with-tailfins kinda feel to it.
- Stephen Mack
Sam, I didn't receive any money or compensation for this post. In fact I've never received money or compensation for any post period. The post was based on a press release on the contest that came from Edelman. I think more than most PR agencies they do a pretty good job at sending me targeted stuff. For what it's worth I do think it's great seeing Microsoft making a contribution to photography this way and did attend and enjoy (on my own nickel) their Pro photography summit last year.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't know, I kind of like "Future Pro." The only thing is I think the future of photography is going to make it very very difficult for anyone to make a living at it. But I do think having a contest to encourage college students is a pretty positive thing overall. I'm going out shooting with some high school students tomorrow afternoon who are super passionate about photography. I love seeing that.
- Thomas Hawk
@Thomas: The way certain groups of people see it: if one makes the mistake of writing something positive about the Microsoft he must be a paid shill or at least a worshipper of the Devil. :) For me this was interesting news to know, even though I'm not so much into photography (though I enjoy the results)
- Jemm
I wonder if Thomas Hawk will enter... :o)
- sofarsoShawn
you've got to be a college student sofarsoshawn. If I were a college student though I would though. :)
- Thomas Hawk
This is such a neat contest.
- Mona Nomura
You mean you're not??? :) You look so young and devilishly handsome...& yeah cool to be seeing MS getting into this realm.
- sofarsoShawn
Oh, interesting...
- Adriana E. Reyes
30 Days of Night - http://www.netflix.com/Movie...
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This was a LOT better than I thought it would be.
- Sam Posten
The Day My RSS Reader Died, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the FriendFeed RSS Bomb! - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Iván Abrego, Shaun Bruce, Mike Roberts and 127 other people liked this
My biggest problem with RSS can be summed up in four words: “too much crap content.” That’s right. As much as I would find the occasional great story and nugget of news, the vast majority of items were simply of no interest to me. News sites and bloggers (myself included) just publish too much crap. So about six months ago I did something that seemed revolutionary to me (and felt totally liberating) I walked away from my RSS Reader. I said goodbye. I took my Google Reader icon off of my bookmark tool bar and I haven’t logged in or looked back since.
- Thomas Hawk
i've been thinking of quitting my feedreaders as well, but just rely on Google Reader's "Shared by Friends" feature, which is just as good a filter for my purposes.
- esther
FF is the superior reader. FF just needs an import OPML tool that matches up existing FF feeds with your Google Reader feeds and creates imaginaries for the rest. It's nice never having to leave FF to get your RSS. FF just needs to make the transition a bit easier than the manual way I've done it so far.
- Thomas Hawk
There is a lot of junk, but in my case I am purposely trudging through all the crap to find helpful tech posts, support articles and software for my readers that I might miss or may get overlooked otherwise. The good news is my workflow and speed reading ability has developed well enough so that I can power through a great many articles in a short amount of time sift out the good stuff.
- Tom Harrison
Thomas, the same happened to me. I find myself looking at less and less items in RSS reader. I only open it casually to go through photoblogs as well as some Flickr streams (including yours). I probably could go ahead and create a virtual friend on FF with these few feeds. Who knows, maybe I will...
- Holger Eilhard
You do have a point though - there are only a few certain types of content I read through Google Reader. I've noticed that I've unsubscribed from most of the sources which I read solely for personal consumption, and also let that stuff bubble to the top through aggregators and sites like FriendFeed.
- Tom Harrison
True, but there's some content that you'd like to read every single post on. For me, it's Strobist.com. Google Reader's perfect for that - and it keeps track of what I've read and not.
- Blake Caldwell
Blake, that's easy, you can just set up an imaginary friend for strobist.com. Although strobist really should be on FriendFeed.
- Thomas Hawk
I have to disagree - I like Friendfeed for its relatively decent conversations, but it's no substitute for Google Reader. FF doesn't do the read/unread thing as GReader does. FF doesn't show the whole post. Case in point, I got to *this* post through GReader. While I'm sure it was on my FF front page briefly, I obviously missed it.
- Eric P
And as for the "Too much crap content" line - what's the difference between FF and RSS there? It all depends who and what you subscribe to, and if you're getting crap content you need to unsubscribe from the sources of that content.
- Eric P
Eric, if you learn to use hide aggressively it can replace the read/unread thing google reader does, but with FF you get more. You get better commentary on the posts which is what bumps it. Would you be seeing what I'm writing right now here in Google Reader?
- Thomas Hawk
In terms of missing specific content this is where you just create a super high value list in FF. I call mine superfaves. I'm happy to miss a lot of content. But stuff I really want to see I just organize in that list and check it at least once a day.
- Thomas Hawk
Come on you guys are smart -- it's like saying "Every time I pick up my phone all I hear is nonsense. Phones are obsolete. Every time I want to hear something I'm going down to the barber shop. I'm done hearing things on the phone."
- Dave Winer
I rather like to think of it more like "home phones are obsolete." My iPhone can do everything my old home phone could do but better, plus I can watch FriendFeed on it while I'm sitting in the chair at the barber shop and listening to FFundercats.
- Thomas Hawk
This is why we need RRSS Really REALLY Simple Sharing! I smell a revolution brewing.
- Mike Lewis
I don't see them as mutually exclusive. There are a lot of things on my RSS reader that never show up on FF, and vice versa. I'm still not convinced that FF can replace my feed reader for keeping up with the Flickr/Zooomr photo feeds that I watch either.
- Jeremy Brooks
No, Dave, your analogy makes sense. Every time my phone rings, I have to worry about whether it's someone trying to sell me something or it's grandma wanting to tell me about cousin whatshername having it off with whatshisface. If I want to talk photography, the chances one of my friends calling me through the day verse the other people is low. If I wanna just talk about issues I want with people I trust, I'll go down to the barber shop cause I'll get great conversation from a wide range of opinions.
- Johnny Worthington
Thomas - I couldn't find David Hobby (strobist) in FriendFeed - no worries, I know I can create an imaginary friend outta him. However, I'm real lazy, I might only read those few sites that I really like once a month or so. I also hook them up to FriendFeed so I can see the new stuff now, but it's nice having Google Reader as backup. I'll never get rid of Google Reader :)
- Blake Caldwell
I don't know Jeremy. I've set up a button in my tool bar to only show Flickr and Zooomr items on my Flickr and Zooomr A lists. Works pretty much just as good as RSS to me. You can pretty easily filter FF by just Zooomr or just Flickr items. Put the can't miss photographers in a list and filter it by service and you've got pretty close to the same thing. That's what I do.
- Thomas Hawk
I think FF and RSS-feeds complement each other. I can't live without both of them.
- Håkan Dahlström
Håkan, assuming you could import your reader's OPML file into FF into a Håkan RSS list with the exact same content (plus maybe a bit more because some feeds initially would also include their flickr/twitter accounts etc.) would that work? Or what does your reader give you that you can't get from FF?
- Thomas Hawk
The only problem with this is *someone* has to get/post/create the content. Many people hide all Twitter messages unless they have a comment. Well if everyone does this then no one sees the content. Someone has to sift through the crap.
- Andrew Smith
Well, on FF I let my friends do the filtering and in Google Reader I do my own filtering. That's how they complement each other. I want to see the junk by myself to decide what's good and what's not. And I think I do that better in Google Reader. :-)
- Håkan Dahlström
True Andrew, but you only need a very small group doing this to provide statistically relevant results. Personally the only service I'm hiding all of right now is brightkite which are among the least interesting items on FF to me. Everything else I hide on a user by user service by service basis one at a time.
- Thomas Hawk
One of the things I think that is an added bonus in using FF for RSS is that oftentimes you get autosubscribed (sorta) to things that you didn't think about. If I like someone's photography blog, there's probably a pretty good chance I might also be interested in their Twitter stream or Flickr account. If not I can easily hide them, but I might not have thought to subscribe to multiple services by the same person in my old RSS reader.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't *want* to have to aggressively use hide. GReader marks it read as I scroll by or hit j. FF requires me to use the mouse to click "hide" and refresh the page. And quite frankly, there's never a lolcat in my GReader, and that alone makes GReader better for news.
- Eric P
Friendfeed it good at some things. It's great for getting Flickr contact updates, for example. But it's basically the latest evolution of a discussion forum. I subscribe to the best sources I can find in GReader. When a good article turns up, I might then in turn share it on FF (and elsewhere) to discuss. Friendfeed as a primary source of information is lacking - there's simply too much that never turns up here, and so much noise it quickly gets drowned out.
- Eric P
good point Eric. I wonder if FF could build an RSS list sort of channel that had a mark as read option. It would seem that they are very close to being able to provide straight RSS reading services here in addition to FF and that capturing their user's traditional RSS reading would be an easy add on sell and make their site stickier than it already is. It would need some thought and hashing out but I think it could be possible to offer both social RSS and replicate traditional RSS here.
- Thomas Hawk
One other issue (at least for me) is that the flickr/zoomr images are shown as small thumbnails, but in my reader they are shown in a larger size. I really prefer the reader for viewing photo feeds.
- Jeremy Brooks
that's a good point Jeremy. I really like the way that blog posts and smugmug photos show up larger on FF than Flickr or Zooomr. I wish Flickr and Zooomr photos showed up larger like that as well. Or at least an optional setting or greasemonkey script for larger sized images would be interesting.
- Thomas Hawk
Here's something I don't understand about imaginary friends. Say I add an imaginary friend from a blog I follow. Only I can see it here in FF, right? But if I like or comment on it, are others subscribed to my feed then able to see the post and like or comment on it too?
- Tom Landini
Too much crap content? Alt Search Engines, CNET News, Daily Dish, Engadget, Gizmodo, Hacker News, KurzweilAI.net, Lifehacker, New Scientist, New York Times - Books, New York Times - Science, New York Times - Technology, O'Reilly Radar, Short Sharp Science, Silicon Alley Insider, Slashdot, Talking Points Memo, Technology Review, Wired News (and many, many more). Competitive with many Friendfeed posts, from my standpoint. Superior signal to noise, in fact.
- Sean McBride
Did you website die too? It's hanging on loading.
- Tamar Weinberg
Took me three years but this post finally got me to fix my Blogger Atom syndication, get it hooked up via Feedburner and now my site is fully RSS compliant AND I'm on Friend Feed as of tonight. Pretty cool post.
- Sam Posten
I've just re-installed Feedly. wasn't impressed first time, but now I am finding it much better, and easier to find stuff to read, than in plain old GR.
- Ian May
@thomas. you should try the latest version of feedly. you might like it.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ironically, I read Thomas Hawk via my RSS Reader
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
It's funny, I"m the opposite. My Reader is my lifeline and I come to FriendFeed for the obscure / culture news. I don't need to see "How to Market Yourself on Twitter" come through my stream 50 billion times. ;)
- Mona Nomura
The Feedly mashup helps me moderate BOTH the RSS stream delugr and Friendfeed's lack of hierarchy. It's interface is less agressive with more filtering then Greader and it shows FF conversations related to each article (thus avoids duplicity and noise on the FF stream).
- Brad Kligerman
What Mona and Brad said.
- Sean McBride
Definitely on board with the OPML thing. If they did that I would probably drop Reader too.
- Paul Greer
Problem is: using your system, you get to read only what the community chooses to. Personally, I prefer having my own list, which is composed of rather obscure blogs that are probably visited by only 10 or 12 people. Yeah, I know, I could send them to FF too, but I like the way my GReader structures them, plus, if these blogs become too well-known they won't be obscure anymore, and probably I won't like them as much! ;)
- Jordi Soler
Great Post Thomas! I do like your idea of merging your Friendfeed with Greader. But I guess it sounds too risky/crazy for me. I live in my greader, and like that I can put whatever blogs together and not get all the clutter from whomever Scoble or Kol liked... For me Greader seemed cleaner and simpler, so I don't get that point.... But like your point on FF being more interactive.... but wasnt there some Greasemonkey script importing FF comments into Greader posts?
- Peter Efland
Peter -- I manage all my Friendfeed feeds through Google Reader (and now through Feedly as well).
- Sean McBride
Friendfeed is rss driven so you're just fooling yourself into believing you no longer use rss when in fact you use it more.
- Richard A.
Richard, did you actually read the post or did you stop at the title and form an opinion from there? You might not have embarrassed yourself had you taken a bit more time.
- Gregory Pittman
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@Greg++ I wondered if Richard and I read the same article; like Hawk I've barely glanced at my OPML lately too
- sofarsoShawn
Richard, exactly. I am using RSS more than ever actually, but I'm using it smarter I think. I think socially filtered RSS is superior to regular old traditionally served RSS. Sounds like a lot of people still like the old flavor as much if not more than the new one still. Still wondering if with user options though FF couldn't become your social and traditional RSS reader in one. But then again, making FF even more complicated might not be the best thing for n00bs either.
- Thomas Hawk
Wading through a chronological torrent of often irrelevant and trivial material, which is impossible to compress with list view, is not smarter and more efficient from my perspective. High-quality publications and blogs do a much better job of filtering and prioritizing news than free-form social chat sites.
- Sean McBride
Someone is going to figure out the best way to combine and improve on the best features from Friendfeed, Google Reader and Feedly. Bank on it.
- Sean McBride
FriendFeed is the new king!
- Dimitar Vesselinov
I'd like to know how you import images into FF from your blog entries? I tried all last night but didn't work. I've been told it's something to do with settings in FeedBurner? I have MediaRSS and WP SUP installed on my WordpRess blog. I'm also struggling to get the FriendFeed Comments plugin to work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I know its an old post and have already been here. BUT once again I fell over it and got intrigued by Thomas Hawk's opening statement. He wrote: "My biggest problem with RSS can be summed up in four words: “too much crap content.”". Now... I just heard more or less the same argument from Scoble, regarding ditching Greader for Friendfeed. I don't get it... I might not have seen the light...
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- Peter Efland
Ok, just read your post again Thomas Hawk - I might be starting to see your point... maybe... good post :)
- Peter Efland
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