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A bug in retweeting. If person X retweets a message from Y, but I have Y blocked, I shouldn't see the message.
Bruce Lewis and Roberto Bonini liked this
But that's because retweeting is just a convention. Unless you're talking about the new web-integrated feature they've added (what were they thinking?)?
- Neil Barnwell
Not 100% convinced: they're keeping the 'old' behaviour. Using the 'classic' RT way, you *do see* the message originally written by the person you blocked.
- Opensource Obscure
Do you realize there are now people who call themselves "professional tweeters." I've lived too long. Please shoot me.
'Like' robot (frɐnc), Debi Jones, Erik and 90 other people liked this
sounds like speakers to me
- Logan Lindquist
I'm a professional "liker"
- Ben MacNeill
+1 Ben
- jerobins
I've seen folks add it to their CV as professional skills. Along with "Professional Facebook user". It's beginning of the end!
- Ricardo Vidal
Seems risky to add to CV unless specifically related to the job, no? Like "Hire me and I'll spend most of my time surfing the Web."
- Herb Hernandez
wait, wut?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
and there are people who are called dickheads for decades, the beauty of life is in the mix
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Must be code for "I have no job"
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
They used to be MySpace consultants.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Just shoot me. Financial crisis is one thing, but this...?
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
fortunately for them, ramen noodles are cheap. I can't think there'd be a way to make significant money tweeting today (yet!)
- Stephane Kasriel
gross
- Denise Young
yes, we call them twits.
- Sean
I think Leo Laporte would have a major problem with them being called Twits. :D
- MarkCarras
where does one get paid to tweet? I'd like to apply for that job!!!
- Bastard Operator From FF
I don't think it's that strange, but people hiring might, esp if it's not for a marketing job.
- David Lynch
...that's asking for trouble... the 'shoot me' part. .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Like telemarketers...
- sofarsoShawn
That's hilarious! Reminds me of ppl who put "Java: 5 years of experience" on their CV when Java was only a public language for 3.
- Kevin Elliott
A profession usually nets one some sort of financial compensation. Who's paying these "professional tweeters' for all of their time spent tweeting?
- Jeff P. Henderson
I need some names and output to judge what they're up to. I might be interested in supplementing my income :)
- WorldofHiglet
Whatever happened to all the Professional Friendsters?
- James
@ James, They got real jobs.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'd like to hear their answer to the interview question, "What is your biggest challenge as a professional tweeter?"
- Carolyn Chan
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse... How do they fit any of the dictionary definition criteria?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
And I appreciate that "meeting the dictionary definition" is short-sighted, but the point is, how do they do it as a job? How do they make a living out of it? Assuming they mean that they're "experts", then who defines the criteria of "expert tweeter"? Crazyness.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
with the influx of celebrities into twitter, it was only a matter of time before people started taking advantage of the situation. These celebrities are probably more than willing to shell out a few dollars for individuals who can manage their twitter accounts for them. More importantly, I wonder how much longer before the lawsuits start over misuse of someone's name or persona.
- Bob Blunk
@Bob Blunk: Sure, I hadn't thought of people *employing* people to Twitter on their behalf. Strange world we live in.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Bob Blunk - Ewan Mcgregor is 'threatening action' over a fake Twitter profile - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news...
- James
Never been to SXSW -- my streak remains intact in 2009. Maybe someday they'll ask me to talk about something, but not till then...
How come? Shame so many of these conferences are in the US. I'd like to go to things like alt.net and SXSW but don't get the chance.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
MSNBC-of-the-Future (mockup) - http://www.scripting.com/futureN...
Daniel Rowley, Neil Barnwell, Shinya ICHINOHE and Tim Ostler liked this
In other news, Boris Yeltsin was alive until a little bit ago.
- Matthew DeVries
Even better, mark TV stories you've already watched automatically as "viewed", like an RSS reader. Or include a Like function and FF-type social subscriptions...
- Tim Ostler
Yeltsin will (still) be dead in the future.
- Dave Winer
@Tim Ostler This is a good point you raise. We're getting to the point (as the argument between Scoble and Loic Le Meur the other day showed) where too much information is coming at us too quickly. We need the equivalent of FriendFeeds's "hide" functionality or Gmail's "mute" so that these things feeding us can learn what we are and aren't interested in getting.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
Maybe, just maybe, the concept of feeds of all this information (which includes the media, TV, movies, radio as well as the internet) is the first real consumer-grade aplication for artificial intelligence? The concept of an AI acting as a gateway to our feeds and gradually learning what we do and don't want to see?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
An older greyer Conan O'Brien is the mental image this conjures up for me.
- Brian Sullivan
Bike-shoving, fact-twisting NYPD cop is fired - http://carlosmiller.com/2009...
Mitch, Chris Nixon, Dave Martin and 29 other people liked this
"Patrick Pogan, the New York City Police officer caught on video body slamming a bicyclist for no apparent reason during a Critical Mass ride last year, has been fired."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
troubling video of a cop pushing a critical path bicyclist and making him crash.
- Thomas Hawk
It's cases like this and the Bart cop who shot a subdued suspect in the back that make me so concerned about the new UK police photography laws. Neither of these cases would have had any traction if there hadn't been video evidence of the officer's crime, and knowing that they're not being recorded will only make cops feel more free to overstep their bounds.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, exactly, this is why it's so important to keep our liberties with regards to photographing the police. I'm sure that the vast majority of cops are good cops, but there definitely are bad apples as well and it's important that those bad cops feel the pressure of being photographed in order to regulate their behavior. What the cop did in this video was completely uncalled for and I'm glad he is now off the force and can't abuse his authority in future incidents.
- Thomas Hawk
Kevin. Unlike the USA we only have a few armed units. And the police don't want the law so aren't really going to enforce it anyway IMO
- Phill Price
NYPD response http://theerant.yuku.com/reply...
- Maz
Phill, you don't have to be armed to abuse power. The bike-shoving cop didn't use anything but his hands, yet he's still facing civil and criminal action.
- Kevin Fox
"fact-twisting" aka lying sack of shit. hope that dude ends up cleaning toilets in a federal prison for his next gig. "bad bicyclist?" let's compare that to bad cops and get some perspective here
- Cee Bee
It doesn't make sense? He must've known the guy and been waiting for him or something; there's just no motive.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
*LOL* Maybe NYPD cops should go on a training stage in Amsterdam to learn how to deal with byciclists.
- Rene Wirtz
For anyone who has had to wait 30+ minutes at an intersection less than a mile from their home on a Friday afternoon, the motive to bodyslam someone riding in Critical Mass is completely understandable. This is obviously a separate issue from abuse of power by a police officer which is reprehensible but if that hit had been applied by someone in plain clothes I would have said he fulfilled a long held fantasy of mine.
- Bryan Power
Heh, yeah. I've become quite the hardcore cyclist and I'm always careful to not look too much like a "critical mass" sort of hipster or one of those road cyclist with the spandex outfit that matches the frames that matches the tires that matches the saddle... because either way the drivers are gunning for you. OTOH, the whole point of a trained paid police force is that they will enforce the law, not their personal vendettas and biases, so it's fairly inexcusable on their part.
- Wirehead
I'm very interested to see what occurs, with regard to criminal penalties. Knocking the guy to the ground was bad enough, but the much more serious action, in my opinion, was knowingly bearing false witness as a police officer. The "tackle" *possibly* was performed for a legitimate reason, but the falsifying of reports was done for selfish individual reasons and erodes the legitimacy of the entire system.
- Chester
Cell Phones to Get Universal Charger [Cellphones] - http://lifehacker.com/5154910...
Finally!!
- Neil Barnwell
Checkvist Simplifies Outlines [Outliner] - http://lifehacker.com/5100400...
I think this solves my outliner note-taking needs.
- Neil Barnwell
Personal Favourites - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
These are my personal favourite photos.
- Neil Barnwell
Personal Favourites - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
These are my personal favourite photos.
- Neil Barnwell
McC wants to tax health insurance benefits. The worst kind of tax increase for people w pre-existing conditions. http://bit.ly/VWX3f
cjmart, Alex Scoble, Chris Hollander and 7 other people liked this
This is insane. So he wants to lower taxes for the rich and increase the burden on the middle- and working-class. Screwed up.
- Alexander Carlill
worse than that. if you can't get insurance on your own and you can't afford the care you die
- Dave Winer
I don't get politics much of the time and even I know that this is one of the craziest ideas ever put forward. Especially during election time. I hope he doesn't make it through. "We're going to give you some money to help you in your time of need. But not that bit, we only gave it you so we could display bigger numbers when we publish to the media the expenditure on health insurance benefits to make us look good."
- Neil Barnwell
Also, McSame doesn't have or know how to use an iPhone, including the coffee, beer, and lighter apps.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
My friend once told me that employers have to pay taxes on their employees incomes, as well. Sounds too crazy to be true to me, but I've never run a business. If this bit of ridiculousness is correct, then would that mean employers would have to pay more taxes, too, which would mean they would find disastrous ways to cut costs?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
This would take care of the population issue. Let the old and hurt die off. Just need to shuffle them to approved areas first. So good thing there are public detention centers ready near rail road lines.http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Uncle CW™
The eskimos put old people on ice floes and send them adrift. This is where Palin figures into the new plan... plenty of ice floes in Alaska.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
really have to get people off employer-focused plans: to do this need seem tax costs for both models http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki...
- Bill Seitz
exactly who wins in this scenario? Today, employees enjoy classic economies-of-scale price benefits when their health care is provided en-masse, through their employer. Would forcing citizens to fend for themselves in an open health care market really benefit them? or would health care providers use this as an opportunity to pray on the weakest members of society, price gouge without oversight, and ultimately recollect the 2-5k infusions that are paid out to working families?
- Chris Hollander
I live in France, and I've lived in the UK and the US. Public healthcare is better than private, in my experience.
- Alexander Carlill
Giftag Simplifies Wishlists [Wishlists] - http://lifehacker.com/5049957...
This is an idea a friend of mine had a while back. Looks like someone else had the same idea.
- Neil Barnwell
Where did my old Word command go in new Word? - http://www.sellsbrothers.com/news...
Not useful for me just yet, but it will be...
- Neil Barnwell
New Tools for Framework Designers Published - http://blogs.msdn.com/brada...
Another work item, but potentially *very* useful...
- Neil Barnwell
WPF Namespace XAML Extensions - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us...
Markup Extensions list.
- Neil Barnwell
WPF Namespace XAML Extensions - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us...
Markup Extensions list.
- Neil Barnwell
I still don't have the new privacy features in Gmail. Am I alone?
Luca Filigheddu, Josh Jenkins, Ron Emrick and 3 other people liked this
no i don't see em yet either
- MG Siegler
got them this morning
- sam sethi
not live for me yet (UK).
- Jamie
Doesn't seem to have appeared on mine either
- Nancy Williams
I don't have them yet, is it a labs feature or something?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
Don't have them as well.
- Stelian Iancu
None here!
- Gavin
one of the millions, just like the rest of us
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Not yet!
- Sara Jacobson
Steve - you gotta hit alt + f4 to get the new features
- Allen Stern
@Allen and on a Mac?
- Steve Rubel
lol @ Allen
- Jamie
I got it.
- Zio Bonino
not me, yet.
- felix
I can't see it
- Duncan Riley
I have no idea what u are talking about and I just had to tell you that
- Noah David Simon
Me either :(
- George Smith
Yea I don't have it on gmail or google for domain
- Blake Robinson
from Alert Thingy
Got it.
- Michele Campeotto
Are you sure? It's at the bottom of the page.
- Aaron Myers
nope not in my gmail either ...hmmm
- Susan Beebe
@steve you must not be on Google's top users list yet... maybe FF can help?
- Ron Emrick
They seem to have several tests in process. I'm in the new iGoogle testing which does include the privacy feature. @Steve, are you using iGoogle?
- Dave Martin
I signed in with a different browser and it seems to have activated it.
- Jamie
Log out ...and login... You should see that at the bottom. Its hard to notice as its just a plain link
- Saad Kamal
I didn’t have it yesterday, but I do this morning.
- Evan Brown
Is this the time that 3D sticks? - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Patrick Moorhead, Ben Kessler, Brian Ries and 14 other people liked this
Vivaty is a cool 3D environment that I got a first look at.
- Robert Scoble
You should get Sun's Project Wonderland chief architect in one of your segments. :)
- Rom Feria
Rom: I'd love to do that.
- Robert Scoble
Great! Project Wonderland is open source. Runs on Project Darkstar, another open source project. Have a couple of kids developing virtual classrooms using the technology and hopefully get them to finish a prototype in 3-6 months. :D
- Rom Feria
left a longer comment on your blog (yeah how old school) but now it's awaiting moderation due to one link :)
- Sebastian Küpers
Sebastian: I approved it, sorry about that.
- Robert Scoble
I was sceptical regarding SecondLife from the very beginning despite all the hype and much so due to the very same reasons as you: I think their business model is not really focussed (if there is one at all): For non-business users it is not focussed on those willing to be there on a regular basis and to pay for using it (ie. gamers), for business users it is just not scalable and...
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- Arnd Gronenberg
I just don't think that SecondLife offers any benefit to the person using it. WoW is a game, so the benefit there is implicit to gamers, but what's the point in just going onto Second Life? If, however, it was a bit more "social-networky", and intergrated with things like Facebook so that I could write on someone's wall by visiting a virtual house and leaving a message, or something, then maybe there's something in that. If you could go to a virtual cinema and see movies (or at least trailers)...
- Neil Barnwell
...and maybe go to virtual music gigs to watch new bands play, meet my friends walking through a virtual mall that has an Amazon store, a Play.com store, an Apply shop. All of which I can go in, play with the merchandise, search the store for it without having the walk around and around in circles, then buy it without queuing up. This is starting to sound like fun.
- Neil Barnwell
In fact, you could have "Virtual Microsoft Surface" in a 3D environment, any virtual bar, table, desk could be a surface that you could log into to see your email etc. You could send/recieve SMS, use Twitter... Hang on, we can do all this in real life. Erm. I don't know what my own opinion is any more. Lol.
- Neil Barnwell
Currently, Vivaty only supports Internet Explorer 6 or 7 on Windows XP and Vista.
- Benedikt Koehler
I can't use Second Life as my intel GPU can't hack it yet WOW runs just fine. If they want people in large groups joining they need to code something that runs on machines with on board gpu's!
- Gerard van Schip
There are lots of companies emerging in the 3D space on the web. Take a look at Ogoglio, 3DVIA (my company) and others (not the least of which are Microsoft and Google). Expect there to be a lot of noise in this space in the next 10 years.
- Matt Baron
As a 3D artist I'm impressed by Vastpark and Blink3D (and Ogoglio, but I'm biased since I built the avatars.) Vastpark has a friendfeed room to show off it's lovely capabilities. Blink3D is web-based if you want it to be, and has a really easy workflow for getting assets out of your 3D package and into a scene. Ogoglio is very Webby, and has lots of potential. There is a small but growing community hoping that one of these can be adapted to serve as a 3D client for Metaplace, which is capable of so much.
- sergiooo
Also, whoever nails a great set of content creation tools with an economy in a virtual world will give SL a big run for it's money. People won't mind a client download if the VW gives them awesome social and build tools, plus a robust client that can run on any half-decent computer. Hence Blink3D for me (today at least, let's see what the scene is like tomorrow.)
- sergiooo
Exitreality.com is another good example of a web-based 3D space for socializing and it already integrates with MySpace, AIM, bebo and friendster. Not available on Mac, though and this IS a knock-out problem. Why? Imagine having a home which only friends wearing leather shoes can enter. It's physically impossible to enter wearing any other material. Most of the world uses leather shoes, but you keep the rest from visiting you. Sounds pretty stupid, huh? And not very social :-)
- Gaby K. Slezák
Vivaty seems to be a very different beast than Second Life, since you are not supposed to 1. create 2. own 3. sell/buy original contents inside their platform.
- Opensource Obscure
Also, Linden Lab (that runs Second Life) is developing an open protocol that will lead to interoperability between virtual worlds. They are actively working together with IBM and other independent developers about that. I think this is interesting and I don't see a similar openness in other virtual worlds platforms future strategies - http://blog.secondlife.com/2008...
- Opensource Obscure
3D is the technology of the future... and always will be...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I'm still waiting for a live quick cam of your head put on your avatar. I think that is the killer app for 3d, and for video chat
- David Lynch
David: that was demonstrated yesterday by Mitch Kapor: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008... - I agree that it will be great for "augmentation" (even if not all virtual worlds users share this approach).
- Opensource Obscure
are they using DirectX? What will the technology be on the mac? I wonder how important performance and flexibility is in this space.
- Neha Narula
3D apps are going mainstream, and it's not just virtual worlds. The improvements in hardware are extreme and the minimum common denominator is getting much better and therefore easier for the developer to architect and deliver a good experience. Look at these 8 3D apps that are available TODAY. http://blogs.amd.com/patmoor...
- Patrick Moorhead
Google Talk for the iPhone - http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2008...
Now this is cool.
- Neil Barnwell
Objectively evaluating O/R Mappers (or how to make it easy to dump - http://codebetter.com/blogs...
Hmm, maybe worth having another go at NHibernate...
- Neil Barnwell
C# wrapper for the FogBugz API - http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBugz...
Work thing, but very interesting for automated build processes...
- Neil Barnwell
@pjakobs says FriendFeed is too complex. That's one of the things wrong with it, yes. But, on the other hand that's what's right with it too
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I fail to see how FriendFeed is complex!
- Colby Olson
Compared to Twitter it is very complex.
- Robert Scoble
its complex to simple minds
- Tyler Gillies
I agree with Scoble - FriendFeed is highly complex and contains layers of rich data and information. It's truly becoming a database of my friends' online life all aggregated into 1 app - that's a big *wow* factor for me. Also the reason I love FF so much! :-)
- Susan Beebe
I think that FriendFeed is one of those tools designed for Mavens, Connectors, and Salespeople (i.e. Tipping Point concepts). Gather and discuss info, form opinions and ideas, crystallize thinking. Is it the best tool for broadcasting back out to the world? Don't know, maybe that's where Twitter/Pownce/Jaiku belong.
- Mark Dykeman
I tried to put my FF rss feed into Google Desktop's feed sidebar gadget but it didn't give useful info, just told me someone had posted something, didn't display the data like twitter and facebook's feeds do.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
people just need to learn a few hidden gems and anyone can become a friendfeed master
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Ha, FF is simply a clearing house for information (noise, in Scoble-speak). the more feeds you have the more complex it looks.
- Roberto Bonini
Yes, that's why I don't follow all the people with FF that I follow on Twitter. I'm careful to keep the stream to a manageable level.
- Francine Hardaway
from Alert Thingy
Francine said exactly what I was going to say
- Michael W. May
FriendFeed is exactly what it needs to be right now in order to facilitate the extremely important discussions taking place here
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
It's not as complex as Plurk.
- Morton Fox
I think the complexity issue has a lot to do with the client. I want the volume of data, I just want a way to (selectively) ingest it all. I suspect we'll see such clients soon.
- Harlan Shoop
from twhirl
it's not complex, it's overwhelming: too much data (but Twitter can be too)
- Antoine Choppin
FF is for pro-twitters like U. For other toms, twitter is very good, primarily coz of the community
- Lakshman Prasad
from twhirl
FriendFeed is to me is Open Social Networking. They don't care what you use. They just want to make sure you can keep up with just about everything everyone you want to keep track of is doing. Is it raw, yeah. But I think its worth it.
- Tony
from Alert Thingy
I'd say it is easy to learn, yet hard to master, which usually is something good.
- Thomas Frütel
I can't unsubscribe from anyone. I specifically deleted someone that I was following and it shows I'm still following them. Also, it's VERY HARD to unsubscribe someone if you are following thousands of people.
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Are you using their Facebook app? That could be interfering.
- Steve Rubel
Ahh, yes. I am using the Facebook app. Is that what is subscribing people automatically? I wondered about that, cause people were just showing up that I hadn't manually subscribed to.
- Robert Scoble
facebook + friendfeed = bad
- Tyler Gillies
Is there a way to unsubscribe from my friends' friends?
- Brandon Wood
Automatically? Without clicking? This must be a bug.
- Mohamed J
Cyvros/fyc: But how do I unhide if I change my mind?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Scoble the Facebook app auto adds contacts.
- Steve Rubel
Neil: scroll down to the bottom and click the link that refreshes to show hidden entries. You can then unhide from there.
- jcunwired
"unlike"
- Mitchell Tsai
@Cyvros: thanks that's exactly what I needed! Wish this feature was more visible, and after I'm done hiding, it jumps me back to the first page, argghhh!
- Brandon Wood
Why Failures Can Be Such Success Stories - http://www.businessweek.com/managin...
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Learning from mistakes and leveraging your experiences fortifies you!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I am thankful for many failures I have had.
- directeur
"One should learn from one's mistakes, though one should not rely on mistakes in order to learn"
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
the more I clean crap in my mailbox, the more I get more.
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I stopped cleaning for just this reason.
- Robert Scoble
We're going to have to get self-cleaning mailboxes.
- Morton Fox
Don't miss my response to you a few days back :-) (not crap!)
- Kevin Dixie
I see here a huge opportunity for a new service. Would you use the email platform that serves you the most important messages first according to your preferences? I think of the folders "Urgent replies", "Long readings" and so on. The system would offer you a different views/mode of operation, let's say "Office", "Home" etc. What do you think? Simply an inteligent email :)
- Jan Horna
@jan reminds me of GTD
- Tyler Gillies
@tyler Kind of. GTD is a methodology. What I suggest is a platform or technology, perhaps an email and conversation system is the best description. It could be based on rich data objects (basically XMLs) rather then a over-complicated standalone software solution. So far my idea :)
- Jan Horna
prends 5 minutes pour répondre à mon interview ... please ! :-))
- Damien Van Achter
I had stopped cleaning my mailbox, but I decided I would do it again just to see and after 8 hours in it, I am still in it. Terrible.
- Loic Le Meur
Robert, the problem is that if you do not clean it from now and then you miss important stuff. I had just missed a very important email... But really, what a pain
- Loic Le Meur
What about Google Mail for My Domain? Google Mail is a great way of maintinain mail. Give stuff labels if you need to do something with it, then select all, and click "Archive". You can get it from anywhere, too.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
FriendFeed is NOT taking off ... why? (I gave some reasons over on this blog post but wonder why we aren't seeing a LOT more FF activity?) - http://www.profy.com/2008...
siavash, ※Fu※, edythe and 41 other people liked this
I've been showing FriendFeed to tons of people and most try it out for a few minutes and then leave. It's clear to me it's not really taking off the way, say, Twitter did. I am getting pretty consistent feedback from people who say they don't see the value in it -- I left my ideas of how to get FriendFeed participation to go to a new level on the post I linked to on this cluster here. How about you?
- Robert Scoble
no great desktop client; too complex, particularly compared to twitter; web ui sucks
- wlai
wlai: yeah, the desktop client is tough, because of the two-level commenting system here. But if they implemented XMPP that'd solve that pretty quickly.
- Robert Scoble
@wlai i'm using MySocial 24x7 Sidebar. a pretty good firefox extension, but still not as convenient as Twitter IM bot.
- Jansen Lu
Why hasn't FF added any new feeds in several weeks? There are plenty of sites they could add.
- Elliott Plack
Has Robert found a new toy? Is it Plurk? ZubHub or whatever? lol
- Aviv
I made FF my home page but still struggling with it. I could just about keep up with Twitter but on here I get to see what the friends of my friends say on a tricky to navigate webpage. It's too time consuming for people that have normal jobs (no Robert, you job is not an average normal job).
- Gerard van Schip
No, FF is THE toy for me right now. I just want to get other people in here and I'm getting a LOT of resistance when I sit down with people and watch what they want to do with it.
- Robert Scoble
I think all these social apps need beter interop
- Charles Rice
from twhirl
Cyvros: links work in Google Talk. Just convert them to URLs.
- Robert Scoble
Cyvros: mostly I want XMPP for listening to the system. Not for posting.
- Robert Scoble
The value in FF is the potential of personal relevance and engaging in discussions without feeling overwhelmed or lost. Threads with 30+ comments are becoming more common these days, and so are 50+ likes. The thing is, Robert, I think super-users such as yourself with 2000+ friends expose individual entries to... too many people. Some complain that FF is fragmenting the conversation. Quite the contrary - I think FF will need to find ways to fragment it even more as it grows.
- Aviv
from ffreader
Cyvros That's the part I don't get. FF seems quite intuitive to me -- whereas other tools don't. That's not to say some refinement is not in order, mind you.... I need to give this some more thought (i.e. WHY is FF intuitive to me?).
- Joanmarie
Robert, I actually like how Friend feed is right now and understand people's dislikes about it but I think it still has some potential that we will see in the coming months!!
- Paul
Aviv: if you read my feedback, being able to hide completely some users is very important. The fact that I am able to "leak" into every conversation here is a huge negative for many people.
- Robert Scoble
Aviv: not being able to control the noise (and the noisiest users) is a major reason why people get turned off when they first see FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I think part of the reason is that FF is billed as a lifestream aggregator - for people to combine their blogs, twitter, delicious, shared items, etc into one stream. But the average person doesn't have that many feeds that they need a lifestream aggregator to manage, in my opinion. Also, the desktop client thing that you guys have mentioned is important as well.
- Derrick Kwa
Well the obvious answer is that for people that aren't on Friendfeed the value isn't all that clear. I'm on Friendfeed and for me it's a tool. I don't like the aggregation aspects of it, but enjoy the discussions that float around. But the main issue with ANY aggregation service imo is that it lacks intent. To me it seems that unlike early-early adopters most people don't really have a need for a constant stream of unintentional shared content. Intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them
- Alexander van Elsas
Paul: of course it has potential! Think about everything that's in the FriendFeed database that we can't yet pull out. Can I show you every item that has "n" likes? No. Can I show you every item that has "n" comments? No. Can I show you every item that has those things but with Robert Scoble hidden? No. So, YES there's HUGE potential locked up in the FF database that isn't yet available to us.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, we are very much aware that FF needs a lot more work (it's a young product), and that not everyone "gets" it right away. We are definitely working on making it more intuitive and approachable. That said, the blog post you linked two was written last month, and activity on FF has grown about 3x in that time :)
- Paul Buchheit
FF is very confusing - People who don't use many web2.0-sites can't profit from the unification of your web-presences. Using FF just for the coments is simply not appealing enough for the mainstream user.
- sdfx
Alex: You are right the intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them but that makes it that much harder for the unintentional shared content. it makes FF just that more harder to understand. I know they are working on this little problem of FF, and I'm sure it will get fixed but I also know they will have to wait and see attitude!!
- Paul
Paul: awesome. I think the reason you are getting this feedback is cause you've built something that has huge value already, it's just frustrating for those of us who are being FriendFeed advocates because we don't have the right tools to convert other people into FriendFeed lovers too. For those who don't know who Paul Buchheit is, he's one of the co-founders of FriendFeed. I'm happy it's growing, but it could grow a lot faster if we had a few more tools to show people the value locked up in FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I use them both (Twitter and FriendFeed), and I actually see more and more people (among my friends) that use FF a lot more than before. I posted some little stuff that I wish FF to add (here: http://friendfeed.com/e...) but those are really simple changes compared to what you ask for Robert :-)
- Orli Yakuel
It's two things for me: 1, Twitter gives me all the info I have time to digest and 2, to make full use of FF I'll need to sub to all the people I'm linked to elsewhere. Did I mention time was an issue?
- Rod Nicolson
While the room feature is a step in the right direction, we need to be able to create filters, that are accessible easily and are nondestructive to the main page. Perhaps Like Gmail, we could see all of the stuff at once, or just one filter at a time. In this case I'd have one for tech luminaries that post a lot, and people I really know.
- Elliott Plack
FF is a great way of aggregating al my feeds, and I love it for that. If all my friends were on it rather than just Facebook, then they'd find out more about me, because I don't just post to Facebook. Why should they have to get a signon and subscribe to a dozen different services just because that's how I chose to publish my content?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
What would be great desktop clients for FF? Thoughts?
- Prakash
Robert, I read your comment on the blog. Re #2 and #5 - I agree that tracking topics is especially important on FF. I personally don't want IM notifications and all that - I want a pure FF interface play. I played with some ideas a while ago, see http://ffapps.com/stickys... - it doesn't take into consideration min number of likes or anything like that, but this is how I personally think FF should approach the need for real-time tracking.
- Aviv
from ffreader
Robert, it's all because of the user base and the ease of use, I'm guessing. I use Plaxo more than FF. And really, use Twitter more than 10x more than either of them. Not just for making updates, but to get updates from others, headline relays, etc. I use BrightKite and sometimes Twitterfone or Jott when I'm sending an update on the go, but they have value for me precisely because they all feed Twitter. Pownce arguably outperforms Twitter in terms of flexibility and reliability, but who uses that much?
- mark zero (Jason)
@aviv, is this thing works? http://ffreader.com/ or just for you because you built it?
- Orli Yakuel
The comments by Cyndy Aleo-Carreira are pretty apt actually; it is actually irritating to see information repeated; i don't like the reordering either; and discussions stripped from the blogs onto itself is understandably annoying to several people.
- Parth Awasthi
Since it is a lifestreaming application I believe most people use FriendFeed as a secondary application to Twitter. Also I think it would do alot better if the FriendFeed-is-Clunky-on-Twhirl issue would be fixed. For example, half way through writing those two sentences Twhirl updated the FF stream and everything I typed was lost. I almost said screw it and just didn't comment, but...
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- william douglas watson
from twhirl
FF is my all-in-one Web 2.0 Solution and there are enough excellent desktop clients - FF is my new center to the world! ;-)
- Dieter Schwarz
from Alert Thingy
The complaints that FF is too complicated are perfectly valid for a lot of people. Something like FF is geared towards the early adopter, those already on a mutlitude of other services and are looking to pull it all together in to one melting pot with comments. Joe Public doesn't work, think or behave like this - many just want a simple messaging system which is why Twitter clicks and...
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- Colin Walker
Aviv, will be really glad to test it! Robert, take a look at this: http://ffreader.com/
- Orli Yakuel
Scoble: I've not built this, this is not Paul Bucheit. I just know that some of this is coming it has to because if it didn't this wouldn't grow. I also know that people will have there problems just like DIGG people didn't like Digg because it had it's own little problem and you see how many flock to be over there!!
- Paul
having fun rather than using social networking as a serious discussion tool. We need a change of mindset or to just accept that fact that different services will attract different people and ne'er the twain shall meet. A service has to identify its target audience and then fully understand it, providing those features that audience demands rather than trying to convince those outside of...
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- Colin Walker
Orli: I can't log into ffreader.com. I'm using Firefox 3.0 RC1.
- Robert Scoble
It's like I'm living in a bizarro universe here. FF is dead simple to me - and was right off the bat. You add services, you add friends and then watch and participate. Pretty easy to me. I also don't know why people bring up twitter all the time when talking about FF. I don't see them as remotely similar or in any kind of competition. They're two apps that have a similar "audience" but that's it. Two different purposes and needs fulfilled. I'm baffled by some of the responses here.
- Vince DeGeorge
Cyvros/fyc: I am sure they are going to fix the commenting problem. They probably hear about that everyday they check there emails or watch the FF scroll up and down. I also know that the fixed width is not so bad once you understand that it's to show a comment or a link!! I understand how frustrating it can be and can't wait for the changes that are inevitable because without Change there is no community!!
- Paul
Vince: Twitter and FriendFeed are joined at the hip for me. I see them as different things, too, but I'd like to see FriendFeed adopt a few of the things that Twitter showed the world first. IM integration for one. Track for two. SMS capability for three (er, and a mobile client).
- Robert Scoble
Vince: I say you've hit the nail on it's head with Twitter and FF, You can't possibly do this type of commenting and discussion with Twitter!! Twitter only allows 150 characters!!
- Paul
robert, FF is growing. it's growth in the past couple weeks is outstanding. you aren't going to get everyone to use it though. and you really should stop comparing it to twitter. because it's fundamentally different. twitter is a microblogging service. it's where we go to post things that are quick, easy, and brief. FF is a social media aggregation (and hopefully re-aggregation) service. they are both important tools and their growth should happen together. and that's happening. be patient and positive.
- Fred Wilson
FriendFeed needs a better commenting system ie Disqus. I have to confess I joined and then didn't use it for a while. Now I am totally hooked. I think some people try it and leave before they truly understand it. It's up to us to convince everyone to stay.
- Michael McGimpsey
@vdegeorge I totally agree. I found FF completely simple to set up. I just keep adding my feeds until I run out, and give people my FF URL. They don't even have to actually subscribe if they don't want to. It's perfect. Of course, Twitter updates go into it, so they don't need to go to Twitter to see them, or Facebook, or Flickr, or my blog. In fact, I'm not even that bothered about the conversation functionality, which does mess the homepage up a bit, I just want to publish my content so people can see it.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
This is in fact strange; I am not a twitter user, but I am a FriendFeed user. I really like FriendFeed far better then Twitter. And the community part here in FriendFeed is what makes me coming back and check out what is going on. Twitter has too much noise for me...
- Joao
Fred Wilson: patience? Patience? Heheh. Good point. We all want it and we want it now. I don't see where I'm comparing it to Twitter, although, to tell you the truth, if it added a few things it could get me to switch even more of my usage away from Twitter. Twitter is doing that on its own, though, by going down so often. I know FriendFeed wants to be different than Twitter, but it has enough similarities that it begs for a few more.
- Robert Scoble
Part of the thing with whether FF will take off mainstream or not is based on how people want to use it. I think the discussion thing that we're all into here is a mainly geeky tech-person thing to be into (and proud of it!) but my Mom isn't going to bother. However, if like me you're mainly bothered about your friends seeing your new Flickr photos even though they're not personally on Flickr, then it's got mainstream appeal. I mean, people don't even have to actually subscribe to FF to see my updates.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
Robert - you keep talking about how you need and like the noise. I guess some people prefer the signal...
- jeremy ettinghausen
jeremy: you missunderstand what I'm saying. It's pretty clear you aren't reading what I'm saying. +I+ don't mind the noise. I can deal quite well with FriendFeed how it is. That's not the point. The point is that I'm trying to get other people into FriendFeed. They DO NOT deal with noise as well as I do. They want far better tools to remove noise (remove Scoble is just one of those tools). I want more people here, to get even more noise, but to do that we've gotta have better tools. The tools are for THEM.
- Robert Scoble
Jeremy: That's a good point. The feeds are the signal (Flickr, Twitter etc) and the FF comments are the noise, as far as I'm concerned. However the comments are the feedback, so depending on your point of view, they're arguably more interesting to the originator.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
Fred Wilson: where in this thread did I compare FriendFeed to Twitter. I went back and reread everything I've written about this and I don't get why you are saying I'm doing that? Just because I want IM/XMPP? Is that a Twitter exclusive feature that no other "live web" service should have?
- Robert Scoble
Neil: to me comments (and likes, which are just really a different kind of comment) are the signal that the original post or tweet or photo, etc isn't noise and is worth paying attention to.
- Robert Scoble
robert, i am not talking about this thread, i, like many people, follow what you say and do. it's the entirety of your stance on FF and Twitter that I am talking about. but that's not really the point i am making. FF is an amazing service. so is Twitter. and i believe they are both going to get better and better, and easier and easier to use.
- Fred Wilson
I think a bare-bones FF platform might serve it better in the long-run, since it will undoubtedly result in a bunch of third-party products and add-ons that enhance (or even finally enable) the FF experience for specific audiences or purposes (meme-tracking, desktop photo browsers, etc.). Either way, I think right now we're not seeing much innovation from third-parties beyond basic FF...
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- Aviv
from ffreader
one of the lessons from Twitter and other services we invest in is if you let the activity happen outside of the web service (via the API and other things), you actually get more users back to the web service itself. so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus (when the discussion is about a blog post i wrote). if that happens, then FF becomes even more relevant, more important, more useful, and more used.
- Fred Wilson
Scoble: Which is a perfect illustration of my point - people want different things out of FF, and we all have our own terminology. For you "noise" means something different to me. Of course, comments on my own FF entries isn't noise, it's "feedback", and that's different :). Anyway, when it comes to "FF isn't taking off", I think it could be a target market issue. I'd say FF has more...
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- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
I'm going out on a limb here - the reason people don't understand FF is because no-one has really defined it yet. Egs: If I saw it for the first time and saw a thread with 50 replies, I'd think it was like a forum. If I only saw lists of feeds I could subscribe to, I'd see an aggregator or feedreader. Seeing an item rise to top when comments were left, I'd think it was like digg, etc. I'd want to know the implications and results of using it in order to be more interested.
- Paul Short
>>For you "noise" means something different to me. Here's a definition: NOISE: you talking about lunch. SIGNAL: me talking about lunch. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
>>so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus. Fred: I am totally in agreement here. It's one reason why I put the FriendFeed widget on my own blog (and am evaluating other schemes to integrate comments here and there).
- Robert Scoble
@Paul Short - good point. Is FF trying to be too many things to too many people and is this why it doesn't appeal? The information on the About page is minimal and, whilst it conveys what FF is about at its core level, the way the service moves on is determined by the way it is used. I have no doubt that FF would be a completely different animal if it were populated by a different set of people rather than the usual suspects we find here.
- Colin Walker
Colin: We agree. I still maintain it's a target audience issue. The people using it will make it what it is. This is exactly what happened to Twitter. It started as "answering one simple question: 'what are you doing?'" and turned into a messaging/communication system by virtue of the way people used it. The same will happen to FF over time. I'm using it in a totally different way to...
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- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
dying already? I thought it will get the necessary traction and kill socialthing before it gets launched.
- Palin Ningthoujam
Palin: I'm not using Socialthing, am I? :-)
- Robert Scoble
SocialThing is pretty much dead in the water anyway. Scaling back on services supported, too long in closed beta, not supporting the most popular web browser - all bad decisions which caused it to get left behind.
- Colin Walker
As compared to Twitter, I get to see more meaningful conversations here in FF (no word limit.. yay!). It's more difficult to follow conversations in Twitter too even with those 3rd party tools like: Quotably etc, and I think I get to socialise with more people on FF. But I agree that it's difficult to sell the concept of FF to friends.. It's either you get it, or not.
- Winston Teo
@Winston, there is a word limit it's just significantly higher that's all.
- Colin Walker
@scoble: In http://secondbrain.com we have a different approach to aggregation.We organize all the content into personal content libraries where it can be browsed by tags and remixed into collections among other things.
- Lars Teigen
@Scoble - I *totally* agree with you. FriendFeed adoption rate is impacted by lack of end-user tools to manage the frenzy of information aggregated in FF. For example, when I scrolled down to "catch up" this morning, I was notice this 1 post had over 97 comments! Holy crap that's way too much information. *Sigh*. This application is geared towards users that have a high capacity for information and can navigate a complex weave of conversations, posts, photos, blogs & other social media widget outputs!
- Susan Beebe
I think FF only starts making sense once you get a nice, active network of friends. It's the conversation that makes FF interesting to me. Without it I might not be here.
- Benjamin Golub
Susan: You're totally right, unless it's not the comments you want. If you just want to use FF as a content aggregation tool though, you lose the "noise" that is the comments.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
The Comments is my *favorite* feature! but this is where most users would give me the deer-in-the-headlights look and close the application
- Susan Beebe
Susan: Which goes back to my point (buried in the previous comments :)) that it depends on what people want it for. People who glaze over at the comments might not want it for that.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
In my opinion, FF needs to focus on the Feed. Think of the current web UI as a "default" presentation of the Feed that underlies it. This means, make the API the most capable API possible; even at the expense of the UI. Things like import, integration, automatic creation of Imaginary Friends, etc. *Other* people will innovate on the UI, if the API is at least as capable as friendfeed.com is. When I import a new service, I would like to carry my network of friends from that service into FF, creating...
- Kenneth LeFebvre
...Imaginary Friends as necessary, to keep my network complete. Give me the ability to merge Imaginary Friends, so I can manually make the connections across networks. Give me two-way participation from FF back to all those other networks, and I will use FF as my client for everything. ...just my 2¢... :)
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Neil - true. Need a way to "hide" comments as well perhaps for those users who don't want to see them. I will *not* be in that use case! ;-)
- Susan Beebe
At the risk of repeating: I think that FriendFeed is one of those tools designed for Mavens, Connectors, and Salespeople (i.e. Tipping Point concepts). Gather and discuss info, form opinions and ideas, crystallize thinking. Is it the best tool for broadcasting back out to the world? Don't know, maybe that's where Twitter/Pownce/Jaiku belong.
- Mark Dykeman
@Paul B It was written last month, but the increase in traffic over that month has made the points I made in my post even more obvious. More activity doesn't fix the problems; it only makes them more apparent. It's the main reason why I don't follow Robert, but pick him up on occasion as FOAF. He shares something. Then odds are Louis shares it, or Duncan shares it. Then Corvida shares it and Diggs it. Sarah Perez shares it. Then maybe Steven Hodson shares it.
- Cyndy
taking off with early early adopters or early adopters? This seems a tad premature. Twitter is 2 years old...it didn't take off until..what.. a year into it? year and a half? a month ago?
- Bwana ☠
@Bwana Twitter is 2 years old, uses a much less "early adopter" mentality for its premise (messaging vs. aggregating), and, well, isn't doing so hot at the limited amount of "taking off" that it's doing.
- Cyndy
Is it just me is or are aggregators like FF not going far enough in aggregating? I want to comment to a blog post fed here and have the comment go back on the blog. I want to frigging import my twitter followers/ees into friendfeed without manually creating an imaginary friend for each one that isn't on FF yet. I want to go to one place and not have to worry that i'm missing some part of a conversation. FF is aggregating, it's more of a window on different pieces of different fractured conversations.
- S. Charles Balazs
Being in the minority (e.g. not in the Internet / Web industries or one who's presence is across a multitude of services), I came to FF due to the aggregation aspect. I don't have much to aggregate (I only have three services connected), but I totally grooved on the commenting and interaction aspect of the service. I found FF to be quite intuitive and the sharing of so many "tidbits"...
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- JA Castillo
@Bwana - I was just thinking the same thing. @Robert - Not taking off the way Twitter did? Twitter really just hit its inflection point in March of this year. Let's look at where Twitter was at this time in its life to get an apples-to-apples comparison.
- Hutch Carpenter
Clay Shirky nails it in the WSJ: "It’s almost universally the case with social software that the software that launches with the fewest features is the stuff that takes off...nobody wants a door with 37 handles. Twitter has six features, and it launched with only one. A brutally simple mental model of the software that’s shared by all users turns out to be a better predictor of adoption...than a completely crazy collection of features that ends up being slightly different for every user."
- Michael Nielsen
Michael- but by that logic FriendFeed should be huge and Facebook should've flopped...
- Mike
wow this entry has ganied a lot of comments- 90++ , a harvest of users thoughts for FF :)-
- Peter Dawson
Have to agree with Hutch. It took Twitter a year to get beyond the techies and early adopters. A couple of weeks in the bigger spotlight doesn't determine whether FriendFeed will make it or break it. Give it a chance. I'm placing my chips on it.
- Robert Sanzalone
Reasons -- too much info flowing in; hard to figure out. Twitter is about as basic as it gets. The Ipod of IM.
- Charles Barthold
Mike - Everyone I know described Facebook the same way early on: "It's a way of connecting and keeping up with your friends". I've never heard two people give the same explanation for FF. "It's like Twitter, but with longer tweets". "It's like Twitter, but with other stuff." "No, it's an aggregator for information!" There's no shared mental model, and so the network effects are much weaker than Facebook.
- Michael Nielsen
FF's complexity (which is really elegant simplicity to those who get it) is its greatest asset. FF exposes the Z axis in an otherwise XY web. If that were represented visually on FF (as a toggle?), more noobs would adopt - more topics would appear, more friends, more feeds, more goodness.
- Noah Carter
FF doesn't seem complex to me, but it does take a bit of time at first to see what one can get out of it. FF seems to be different things to different people - but that's one of the things I like about it. It's useful in more than one way. Aside from the echo effect, the posted link doesn't seem to have much in the way of good criticism. People keep complaining about noise; that's what the hide feature is for.
- Tanath
I fully admit that I tried out FriendFeed for a day and quit. It initially wasn't easy for me to pick it up. But, I kept hearing about it on Twitter and gave it another try. I now use FriendFeed much more than Twitter.
- Patrick
The thing with Twitter is that peeps can just post and answer any echoes back, it's low intensity. FF however, requires the user to be a bit more ballsy, if you like. To get the most out of it, you have to be prepared to chime in, post and have a debate or convo with a multitude of people you've almost never met. The two are very different.
- Sally Church
I like Sally's thinking. I've often thought Twitter is for all people comfortable with chatting/instant messaging. Friendfeed seems geared more towards the type of people who'd post in forums or leave comments on blogs (a smaller group). However, I don't really have a sense for what % of FriendFeed users are voyeurs or what its potential is with people who'd like to view it all (even the conversation threads) without participating.
- Robert Seidman
@Parth Thank you, and I agree. Love that it's generated 100 comments, though. ;) @Mark Dykeman I think you have the core demographic nailed there. @Robert I love forums, but forums are WAY more organized and have nowhere near the duplication as FF does.
- Cyndy
Feature request - Place a # next to each comment so I can refer back to # x comment above. This is a standard feature on many blogs' comments. This post with over 100 comments in reply is a perfect use case to justify this feature!!
- Susan Beebe
Susan: that's called anchors :) http://www.w3.org/TR...
- directeur
Main reason I use it: condensing all my feeds into one spot, both those I read and those I produce. Main gripe: no way to quickly highlight what I haven't seen.
- xero
Another feature request - Let me subscript my friend's tweet only(not including flickr etc). This can be done by `Imaginary friend` but it would be more useful with one-click feature.
- satoko
Just Say No to Manual CRUD - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Work stuff, but I agree with it entirely - stored procs are more trouble than their "perceived benefit" is worth.
- Neil Barnwell
Twitter blames me: http://venturebeat.com/2008... Screw you Twitter!
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Bummer. The Twitter guys are just scapegoating you because of their fumbles --- Fundamentally, they just underestimated the problems of "real" scalability, as do 99% of the other tech teams out there. (So many company pitches I've heard claim to "be scalable"...aggh.) Most have never worked on a really big system. We're lucky here at FriendFeed to have former Google guys, who have...
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- Mitchell Tsai
As I've posted elsewhere, they didn't blame Robert, or any user. They simply explained what the problem is.
- Ian Betteridge
Good catch Spraque. My apologies to the Twitter guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
In my opinion, this seems easy to retort - last time I checked, all of the Tweets are posted in FriendFeed, no? Along with all the comments, Flickr updates, RSS feed updates, Pownce, et al. So, if Scoble's number of Tweets blows up Twitter but not FriendFeed, doesn't that make the error easy to identify?From a PR/Marketing perspective, this is a disaster for Twitter - a 'celebrity'...
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- Doug Dockery
from twhirl
Actually Sprague, it looks like MG made the translation that Alex Payne was talking about Scoble. Twitter never actually singled Scoble but I'm sure that Alex didn't mean Scoble was the only source of issues.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@ Mitchell - Twitter arent making scapegoats. They are saying that their architecture isn't good enough to handle dozens of users who have 20,000+ followers. And that's not just Scoble. There are the likes of Barack, Kevin Rose, Leo Laporte, Calacanis etc. And then the bigger problem of those spam accounts who follow thousands of users...
- Jamie
Makes me wonder if the next Valley startup will have to use the ol' good garage just as its datacenter, while the developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers will be inside the house itself, LOL.
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Jamie: see excerpts from "Dev/Twitter" and my "translation" at http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
A cheap shot by Venturebeat's MG Siegler. They wanted traffic, and probably got it. Well done guys
- Alexander van Elsas
It's bullshit. If they're turning on their "customers" now and blaming them for using and promoting their service, then it serves them right if those customers listen, and take themselves elsewhere. I'm struggling to see the point in Twitter these days, simply because I only have a couple of follows. If FriendFeed had the notion of "what are you doing" in addition to lining up all my other activity on the internet, then Twitter would be dead for me. In fact, since Facebook already has that...
- Neil Barnwell
Foundations of Programming - pt 8 - Back to Basics: Exceptions - http://codebetter.com/blogs...
Work-thing.
- Neil Barnwell
.NET Rocks! #345 - Dmitri Ossipov on Enterprise Service Bus - http://www.intellectualhedonism.com/2008...
Totally a work thing, but could be good for adapting middleware...
- Neil Barnwell
DimeCasts.NET - http://codebetter.com/blogs...
This is totally a work thing for me - ignore at will!
- Neil Barnwell
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