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A User-Centric Web needs brand agnostic service providers - http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
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Lucky we have some common sense. If lately we have passed from "our name/identity" to @something, at least we should ask why. As usual, great post!
- Nicolas Caitan
Question: why does Facebook have 300 million users and is never down but Twitter has 45 million and is down many times a day? People at #TC50 are noticing this too. Will Facebook use this to get into the "real time public" game?
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I don't think it the number of people, I think is the number of hits/per time. Then again, it might be the IT people. Unless you are hitting Facebook every minute, you may not notice any downtime.
- W. Kirk Crawford
Something is wrong with Twitter's structure. They need better engineers!
- Eugene Teng
Kirk: I totally disagree. Twitter has always been going down, even in the good old days when no one used it.
- Robert Scoble
also, how many apps/web services are connecting to and slurping data from twitter compared to facebook?
- alphaxion
Facebook may never be "down" per se but it is *frequently* completely unusable. I don't think anyone should be looking to FB as the paragon of reliability.
- Kevin Pedraja
alphaxion: that is a big deal, yes, but I can tell you the usage on Facebook is many times higher than for Twitter. Length on site numbers are higher too. Most Twitter users don't even use Twitter and that's provable.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: I'm using both a LOT and I can tell you that it's a rare day I can't get to Facebook but that happens almost every day on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I have seen facebook down. Not near as much as Twitter.
- Dan Krivolavek
I suspect a lot of it has to do with back end architecture.
- Eoghann Irving
which means they might not have invested as much into the standard web interface servers. How often does access between the off site services and twitter go down?
- alphaxion
I think Facebook was smart and managed it's growth. They're architecture was able to adapt as they grew. I think Twitter would be smart to stop trying to patch the system and build a whole new Twitter 2.0.
- ChiliMac
When Facebook was young and only open to college students, it definitely went down. It's just that no one but college students (who didn't care) noticed. Twitter doesn't have that going for it.
- Jordan Hofker
money
- Richard Hill
Twitter is broken. If they don't build a 2.0 version, sooner or later something better will replace them.
- Eugene Teng
Twitter is dead to me.
- Dan Krivolavek
Jordan, Twitter is not "young" anymore. That excuse flew the coop a while ago. Their infrastructure is broken, plain and simple.
- Chieze Okoye
Richard has a big part of it. Facebook has bought an amazing amount of hardware resources. But they've also hired a lot of quality people and done a lot of quality work to make use of those resources. It all works together.
- Todd Hoff
FB may not be 'down' much, but it's been moving like molasses for the last year for me, lite isn't much better. I don't know much about the api traffic for either, but I'd bet twitter has more from that side, just a guess though.
- John
I do not know about you Robert, but sometimes Facebook is being a 'biotch' to me and times out at various times of day and nite. Twitter, I believe is going through some huge growing pains. I hope they get bigger pants soon.
- Nile Flores
Robert, maybe you get access to the VIP Facebook, but I find that several times a month it will do things like log me out every 2 minutes, won't let me access apps, etc. Sure you can log in and maybe see your feed, but that's about it.
- Kevin Pedraja
actually, oddly enough, my GF's profile on facebook is currently telling everyone "sorry this profile is unavailable right now". Looks like they still have issues ;)
- alphaxion
I am curious what Twitter does with their time and money.
- Kreg Steppe
This might be the result of the launching of the site time... Facebook earlier than Twitter!!
- Arijit Das
'cause Twitter only picked up engineers that knew how to write scalable applications with their Summize acquisition - and they've been playing catch-up ever since.
- Mike Koss
...because only a tiny fraction of FB's "users" actually use it frequently enough to crash it? just a guess...
- .LAG liked that
People have already settled for Facebook's near real-time activity stream. Twitter will always have a place as a comm channel but the majority of those 300 million FB users are fine with checking in once or twice a day to see what their friends are up to. I would like to see stats on how many stale Twitter accounts there are vs. Facebook.
- Dave Evans
It got to do with the frequency of access. People who tweet and are active in tweeting do it all the time. It is not the same with Facebook.
- Gokul
Are those respective numbers for 'active within last 30 days'. Registrations are meaningless. That's why LinkedIn is always up. Everyone has an account but no-one actually uses it.
- Andy C
how many of these 300 million are actually active ?
- Peter Dawson
Don't know about FB but 6 million folk are active daily on Twitter. Source: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Andy C
Facebook is often unusable at certain times of the day. Typically just after everyone gets into the office. It is certainly not a paragon of reliability from the users perspective. And 300 million people don't all access it at once. If they did............no carrier
- Gilbert Harding
twitter search has value. fb search? NONE.
- Phil Calvin
Good point Phil.
- Gilbert Harding
Maybe that IS why facebook should keep out of realtime stuff. It is less hassle to their systems. But I find facebook chat slow and unresponsive :) Neither is perfect... that is good. It means there is much more work to do :)
- DC Crowley
I have also found that the real time chat on Facebook is slow. I think they would have similar problems if there were as many developers creating ways to update on facebook. Cluster f#(K -cs ostini
- Christopher Scott Ostini
Peter: Facebook says that the 300 million number are people who've logged in over the past month. Most of whom are also active daily. I live with a Facebook addict. She's on it multiple times a day and so are all of her friends.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook has smarter engineers at the top that listen to the even smarter engineers at the bottom.
- Jesse Stay
.LAG, your reason doesn't fly - over half of those 300 million users log in at least once a day, and that doesn't even include the near 1 million apps that are also hitting Facebook on a regular basis.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I don't see Twitter openly sharing that type of traffic information - kinda makes me wonder about Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
And Phil, have you tried Facebook search recently? It is becoming more and more valuable every day.
- Jesse Stay
*never* down? http://friendfeed.com/jeffdou...
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
It may also be a matter of function with scale. Facebook has many functions all of which are more than likely different scalable solutions: photo sharing, chat, etc. Twitter has a much smaller set. When taking 300M users in FB how does that break down to function vs. Twitter. It may be that the concentration around function is higher in Twitter's case than FaceBook. So if FB has say 40...
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- Altan Khendup
Robert, I understand the 'addict' state :)- while on the topic, I thought, I'll share this link to the community http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
- Peter Dawson
After this discussion, I have noticed some issues with Facebook. Slow updates. Uploading hiccups. General functionality breaks at times. Of course, I still have access to it.
- Paul Puri
I think that's the biggest difference. It's rare for Facebook to be "down". Individual components yes, but not the entire site. With Twitter it tends to be all or nothing.
- Eoghann Irving
Yeah, Facebook's architecture is much more modularized. If one thing goes down it doesn't take down everything else. They also have many, many more servers managing it all and a much more mature Memcached backend. That, and they have a much smarter engineering staff managing it all. There are definitely slow spots, but they always correct after a short time, and you never see the entire site down. It's probably the reason Facebook is now profitable and Twitter isn't.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also willing to bet Facebook is doing Unit Testing on their launches, where I'm pretty sure Twitter isn't (based on the things that break after launches)
- Jesse Stay
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Thousands call for Turing apology - BBC News - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
7 Laser Vaterpases, merve, Juvenn Woo and 90 other people liked this
I had no idea they forced him to get chemically castrated after he admitted he was gay. Disgusting. I hope the government officially apologizes for killing one of the great minds of that generation.
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
More here. Includes link to the Downing St. petition: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news...
- Richard Chen
how very sad.
- Sheila Taylor
Pretty bad for the "good guys" in WWII, eh? Doubly sad that it (apparently) caused him to commit suicide. So we lost one of the greatest minds in computer science in his early 40s.
- Joel Webber
What a sad story... I hope they do apologize. Here's a link to the petition, but you have to live in the UK to sign: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/turing...
- Shannon Jiménez
If the British government doesn't apologize for murdering Turing, they will be no better than the Nazi enemy that threw homosexuals into the gas chambers alongside the Jews and Gypsies. Wasn't he supposed to be on *our* side? The *Law* didn't think so...
- Dennis Jernberg
We're still not very nice to gays. Apologizing for the past makes a statement. Correcting the present makes a difference in people's lives. I hope we do both.
- Andrew Warner
from iPhone
The man was an absolute genius, its a pity he could not live further to expand our horizons of thinking. His abstract computing device called "Turing Machine" is for computer scientists what speed of light is for physicists, an ultimate limit of computation
- thequark
Andrew agree. This is sad. I hope we can "correct the present."
- Rick Cogley
They should apologize for throwing Oscar Wilde in the clink as well.
- Joel Webber
If we follow the line of reasoning where the current government must apologize for all previous governments then it eventually reaches the point of absurdity. Besides how meaningful is an apology on behalf of someone else?
- Adewale Oshineye
Ok, I was being a bit silly about Wilde (there are plenty of things the Victorians could apologize for). But Turing was abused by what could be argued to be the "current" government (or at least political system), and that we still think of as the "good guys" (for wont of a better term) in WWII. And it was only ~50 years ago.
- Joel Webber
ACM Statement Regarding British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Apology on the Treatment of Alan Turing ACM (09/11/09) Hall, Wendy ACM applauds Prime Minister Brown's statement on the treatment of Alan Turing, writes Dame Professor Wendy Hall, ACM President. ACM has long celebrated the fundamental contributions of Alan M. Turing not only for his instrumental role in British code-breaking...
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Will Dave Winer shed a tear over reported death of his baby? - http://www.inquisitr.com/35753...
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new blog post: Growth and traffic are no guarantee for a profitable online business : http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
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Alexander: great post as usual. I would like to know what do you think about Scoble recent valuation of twitter at http://bit.ly/jUVTF
- Nicolas Caitan
@Nicolas thank you. Regarding @scobleizer's post about Twitter being worth $5-10Bln. Valuation is a very subjective term. If someone steps up and buys Twitter for $10Bln then you can easily argue that is what it is worth (as someone paid for it). Valuation is then based upon the promise of future revenue. Given their current growth rate, and a lack of profitability however, I'd say they...
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- Alexander van Elsas
Vintage Circus Photos From The Wisconsin Historical Society Archives - http://laughingsquid.com/vintage...
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Adding to the noise, blog post: On Facebook, status updates, retweets and the universal law of signal versus noise: http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
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We in Library & Information Science are dealing with relevance issues in information retrieval since de seventies. I guess relevance issues are moving into the real-time web. Great post.
- Nicolas Caitan
@Nicolas, thanks :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
I hope we're passing through a period of site centrism to something that puts more emphasis on tools for the user. That is, right now you have Twitter updates, Facebook updates, FriendFeed items, Disqus comments, blog posts, etc. where each site is still competing for page views. We spam all the channels because we have pockets of the audience we want to speak to on each site. I want to be able to just push "personal" updates or "work" updates and have them go to the appropriate groups, independent of site.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ken, user driven is the magic word, I fully agree. Current business models are stimulating wrong behavior. Every service wants to be a communication hub. Adding noise to the signal so to say. Turn it around and put the user in the center. it would change things radically
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, see my post in spanish disccusing your "Adding to the noiset" at http://bit.ly/NRmrj . I'm starting my blog on social media for Uruguay, South America.
- Nicolas Caitan
Googel translate saved the day (my Spanish is awful). Nice Post Nicolas, well thought through :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Thank you Alexander :-)
- Nicolas Caitan
Good post. I can't quite understand what "putting the user in the center" would entail though. Apparently a lot of these services don't get it either or we wouldn't be having this discussion. Maybe you can elaborate here or in another post? Can a service stimulate better behavior even?
- Matsis
Matsis: Alexander may have a slightly different take on it, but for me "putting the user in the center" is about focusing on the people involved and the messages they're exchanging rather than the UI or system they're using. You don't "Outlook" someone, or connect to your parents "on AT&T", or talk to your friend on "Adium"; we email, phone, and IM each other. There's still competition among the services, but the important part is the message and the protocol, not the service itself.
- Ken Sheppardson
We need to be standardizing communication protocols and supporting competitive services so we're not dependent on any individual organization/site and we have flexibility to pick our own UI and user experience. We also need to break out of the control individual services have over our content. Imagine for a moment if AT&T or GoToMeeting tried to exert the same rights and control over our phone calls and meetings that Facebook et all exert over the contents of our communication via their services.
- Ken Sheppardson
Then perhaps FF was on its way to achieving some of this? It is integrating a lot of different services on the way in and with twitter on the way out.
- Matsis
I think it was, and that seemed to be supported by not only the way FF dealt with the community of users and third-party developers by also everything I'd heard Bret, Paul, et al say about where they wanted to take the service... up until the Facebook acquisition. It remains to be seen whether that philosophy can subvert the site centrism of Facebook.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm currently trying to configure a lifestream on my personal site so there really is a single point that contains everything I post publicly. But even with an open source app it's difficult to achieve because you end up with so much duplication if you include all the sources.
- Eoghann Irving
To me though, being able to host it myself is a crucial element. It's my writing. I don't like being so reliant on Twitter, Facebook, Flickr and FriendFeed.
- Eoghann Irving
@Eoghann, not everyone will be able to or care about hosting it themselves. But I agree it's an important element. I've written tons of posts around the theme of putting the user in the center and turning things inside out. @Matsis, here is my personal manifesto that discusses these topics and my feelings about them: http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
- Alexander van Elsas
@matsis, I'm even surprised you have read any of my posts ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
nice too see my apps here :) RT @TheNextWeb 9 Tools to Improve Your FriendFeed Experience – The Next Web http://thenextweb.com/2009... thanks @fcbosa
Mac Sharp, Giovanni Cappellotto, Oscar Antonio Moralí and 6 other people liked this
Epic Win - http://www.duncanriley.com/2009...
Nicolas Caitan, Steve, Chris Saad and 2 other people liked this
Epic win indeed Duncan. Well done. Have more than a couple of Friday drinks.
- jjprojects
from iPhone
Next stop, top 10? :)
- jjprojects
from iPhone
Almost 3m views a month is no small achievement either!
- Mo Kargas
Congrats Duncan, a well deserved achievement.
- Travis Koger
Congrats dude
- Chris Saad
Oh those wacky Texas librarians - http://www.inquisitr.com/32136...
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I'am Librarian too and I have a bunch of tattoos. But I suspect nobody wants to see my calendar.
- Nicolas Caitan
10 excellent ways to use that lowly USB drive - http://www.inquisitr.com/32161...
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The difficulty I have with privacy controls on Facebook - http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
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I have just clean-up my profile and had the same worries than you. It's very difficult to set your privacy and applications settings on Facebook. Minutes to figure it out how to delete an app. Great post!!!
- Nicolas Caitan
Re: Back to Blogging Week (no FriendFeed/Twitter for a week?) - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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"Interesting"
- Steven Hodson
There's a reason I follow 100,000 on Twitter and 25,000 on friendfeed: I get to see patterns no one else is seeing. Here's some:
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I saw the Chinese earthquake while it was happening. 45 minutes before CNN.
- Robert Scoble
I see that Bing is gaining steam today.
- Robert Scoble
I saw that people were frustrated on Saturday with CNN.
- Robert Scoble
The Matrix?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: in a way, yes.
- Robert Scoble
I see new software, services, ideas before most other people.
- Robert Scoble
How do you deal with the noise?
- Kevin Lim
How do you filter out all the noise? I find myself constantly unfollowing people to make Twitter more relevant.
- Michelle
I've noticed this effect in just following 40 or 50 more people on Twitter.
- Bill Kinney
And I get to see how they react to news, like Opera's new browser this morning.
- Robert Scoble
The Robert Scoble version of "Google Earth"
- Pete Blackshaw
Big Brother style
- Richard Lai
So that's like "Scoble trends" :) Like Twitter trends, but for emerging events.
- Kirill Petrovsky
Jinx.
- Michelle
Michelle: noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers.
- Robert Scoble
So effectively you start a topic on Twitter, and then use friendfeed as a chat room?
- Richard Lai
i follow almost 60,000 on twitter now and love it. totally agree scoble.
- Jason Pollock
Hoping for some improvements to Tweetdeck groups - just not enough yet
- Kirsten Hamstra
yeah but how do you SEE the patterns, you cannot read them all do you?
- Hans Mestrum
You should be talking about all the spammers on Twitter because that is the trend
- paul mooney
Robert is our filter, we follow robert who sees the patterns and reports it back.
- Ray Slakinski
Here's a hint: I don't always follow 125,000 people. In friendfeed I have lists of only 150 people. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE NOISE.
- Robert Scoble
He has a socket in the back of his head ;-)
- Richard H
Also, in friendfeed I can remove noise by displaying only items that have gotten a like. Like this: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Thank goodness we have you, Robert, to do that, so we don't have to.
- Jason Mayoff
make sense following "likes"
- Hans Mestrum
paul: spammers don't bother me. They add about as much value as people who tell me they had a jelly sandwich for lunch.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Pulver Followers every p0rn site and spammer who Follows him, check his Following list
- paul mooney
paul: here's a little trick: I do most of my following in friendfeed. Why? Better friend management.
- Robert Scoble
I also have issues bc what I have to follow for work is very different from what I want to follow, but that is another issue.
- Michelle
Bill: actually you only need to follow a few people to get a pretty good look at the good stuff. Why? If something is good everyone talks about it.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has gone the way of email, that's why Twitter Search doesn't work - the system is overwellemed!
- paul mooney
Michelle - same issue here! work vs. professional following and juggling multiple accts
- Kirsten Hamstra
paul: it still works for me. I just skip over the spam. My mind likes seeing spam and noise. It helps me see the news.
- Robert Scoble
For the rest of us - just friend Scoble -- you might hear about stuff delayed 5 minutes or so.
- Brian Sullivan
Where do I get one of these neat sockets in the back of my head, I get dizzy just trying to follow 2K people.
- dabitch
All the Twitter marketers are auto-Following the spammers, it's a perfect storm
- paul mooney
paul: in email I don't care about the spam either. I can always scan a page of spam and find my boss' emails for some reason.
- Robert Scoble
reminds me of roy - I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tan Hauser Gate.
- mike "glemak" dunn
Brian: that is true. My like feed at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... is pretty good.
- Robert Scoble
That's why people who don't follow others on Twitter are kinda of missing the point, aren't they? I love seeing when people are being followed by 30,000 people but following 2.
- Curt Mercadante
BTW Robert, props on following the Iran elections. Hopefully this will open our eyes to what has been happening in Egypt, Russia, Pakistan and a host of other countries for decades. If Benezir Bhutto were alive and had been elected like she would have been, we'd live in a different world.
- Michelle
so robert - could you be an android ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Robert: so in a way, if you follows all that people, we actually needs to follow only one person, which is you. here's why: it is most likely that you'll post about the major stuff that you read about in your friends stream - which make you a better filter than any other service around :) (I'm following lots of people too because I simply like to find and read about new and exciting things)
- Orli Yakuel
I totally agree with you Robert. It's like holding your hand into a jet of water and drinking from time to time.
- nik
you need to have the spirit of sharing good stuffs to others, or the good only reaches you but does not spread out.
- K.D.
I cannot get people to join FriendFeed. I even did a video showing them how great it is. I cannot seem to follow that many more on Twitter than 200 and keep up with them. I tried Tweetdeck, but it just used too much RAM for me.
- Hummie
The REAL trick here is that you have a natural gift for scanning with your eyes. I would follow many more people if I could scan (and absorb) information as quickly as you do. Since I don't, I follow you. You are among my first line of defense.
- Bettina Tizzy
All these fortune cookie Tweets are the work of spammers, sooner or later comes the link to the get-rich-quick site
- paul mooney
Robert you are awesome! ★
- weirdchina
@scobleizer I want to see the matrix also... still several K from where you are.
- Robert Freeze
Robert, do you read http://friendfeed.com/public also?
- bnoise
i follow more on ff
- junrxu
Sounds a little like Joey Osmond - Robert I see patterns Scoble? Definitely agree though - there is useful information that can be pulled from the right people's twitter/friendfeed that gives trends developing real time, as long as sea changes over longer periods
- Tom Tubbs
Hmmm, why is http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... faster than http://friendfeed.com/public ?
- Greg Byrne
holy shit robert... i just had my mind blown watching your live friendfeed. this whole time i've been trying to control the chaos... keep people organized into neat piles. wow... wowow
- Eric Nakagawa
You are so right!
- Thomas Chai
@Hummie: I had the same problem with TweetDeck. Try SeesmicDesktop, it has similar functionality but less RAM-greedy
- Ashalynd
Robert do you have a link to the video you did showing 'how' you manage all this information flow? I would enjoy watching it again.
- Matt Perry
here's another interesting search which will show all scoble's friends' items that have at least 1 like: http://friendfeed.com/search... only wish this were realtime
- Mike Chelen
Robert - cool post, excellent comments - same exact reason I embraced FF in early days and stayed here!! Love it
- Susan Beebe
Robert since I have been following you I have done a complete 180 on how I felt about social networking before. I mean the media is fast but social networking works at the speed of thought. Now if I could only figure out how to interact behind the Army & Airforce firewall... I felt lost today at work... LOL
- Nathan McClain
Matt, I think that video is this one: HOw I Read Tweets: http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Orli the problem with only following me is that I need to sleep once in a while and I also might not follow people you care about. For instance, if you are into celebrities and not technology I totally wouldn't be good for you to follow.
- Robert Scoble
we know what I care about and I'm glad that I'm following you! but I got the point, and I agree of course. I was just kidding I guess..
- Orli Yakuel
Great video. Watching it again now...
- Matt Perry
Yeah some wild connections are made by watching a lot more than a few friends. Wonder why most people don't "get" that? Researchers should follow a ton of people and sources.
- Jack Humphrey
Jack: actually, people should do BOTH follow a ton of people and sources as well as follow just a very select group of people. I wish I could share my groups (er, lists of friends) with you all. THEY are going to be the secret to filtering in the future.
- Robert Scoble
I'm lazy. I use your feed as my pre-filtered source of good/interesting general information. Thanks for doing a lot of the hard work for us (or at least me).
- John Meagher
Robert I think you are 100% correct, but it touches on what people should have already been doing, and that's getting as much information as they can from as many sources as they can and putting the facts together for themselves. I think traditional media's days of fact-less reporting are thankfully numbered. This is truly Fair and Balanced!!!
- Nathan McClain
Robert: People still won't get it. Seeing patterns is a talent or a skill. You can aid it, however, by showing or demonstrating how you filter for patterns. How do you scan messages and discern a pattern? How do you focus on a few without missing the patterns of the many? Might make a good presentation/blog. You probably already did it, right?
- Alan Eggleston
I don't think it requires following 125,000 people to be aware of the same trends.
- stretta
stretta: it does not, but I get to see small things that many people don't.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - and I appreciate those "small things" :) --- they look like startups! and new bright shiny tech toys!
- Susan Beebe
imagine an AI system that can analyze all that data for you and generate illuminating reports...
- Matt Jaunich
Matt: I can and lots of geeks are working on building just that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the post. I immediately added the "like" search to my saved searches.
- Sean Powell
I follow 60,000 and I see a white light at the end of a tunnel. It's getting closer...
- Rick
You must do this by o s m o s i s....no other way? Intuition and speeed reading.
- Ziona Etzion
Yeah. Robert, I don't read your stuff and I don't know if you're going to read this. But regardless, I know you're well famed and this is the first thing I skimmed across of yours that would indicate that it's deserved. I follow options in the same way., eg almost literally. I have TD StrategyDesk open right now, ThinkOrSwim, Power E*Trade Pro, OptionsXPress, and the regular TD Ameritrade website open as well. Doing this allows me to view and be ware of data and turning points in many views and levels
- Matt Kaufman
Robert: If you could follow all 100,000+ people from Twitter in real time within friendfeed would you?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Twitter is a helpful automatized hammer for the main engine, which is friendfeed ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I don't see why you couldn't just save a search on everybody's posts with likes on FF though and still follow only those you actually read daily + any protected accts? Even build smarter searches than that. You increase the number of people following you by lots more your way of course.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
Sorry. The trend watching and analytical part would be the same, wouldn´t it, except that I now see that the saved searches don´t update in realtime. Yet.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
No doubt...
- Thor
Nice post :-) Two questions though:
- Patrick Mackaaij
1. What sets apart the 100,000 people you "follow" to glance at once in a while from the everyone feed?
- Patrick Mackaaij
2. (a Friendfeed question): Do you still read this since I posted this comment a few hours after the initial conversation.
- Patrick Mackaaij
How did you find so many people to follow? How does an average user find so many to follow?
- Bas
Patrick: I was on stage and couldn't be on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Patrick: the people I follow are usually much more tech interested and demonstrate early adopted behavior than the larger public audience.
- Robert Scoble
Never mind all this. How's Opera? Got a link this morning and thought I might try it (what a surprise, me trying something).
- Francine Hardaway
This is how I tell other people about Robert: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... and it's how I'm slowly patterning web learning (when I have time to interact and learn)
- Mark Essel
Scoble Earth(TM), Pete Blackshaw? ;)
- Tyson Key
Robert: Is this a Mandelbrot pattern? The chaos has a look, a feel and a taste, as in the jet of water analogy. You're the freakin' hydrologist with the dousing rod.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert: I was not expecting a real time response but was wondering how you keep track of all conversations you engaged with on FF. How can you see where comments are added?
- Patrick Mackaaij
I'm with Robert, just not with such a big of a scale. My point: I am noise and you are noise. Let's not forget there's a baby in that bathwater before one takes a blanket anti social network view of social networking!
- Mike Lewis
Robert, you are a living, breathing supernode, and I thank you for it :-) (Supernodes: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-95...)
- Andy Bold
makes sense 2 me
- Ron Hagenhoff
OMG Robert I agree 100% BEFORE Twitter screwed with the @replies censoring us from seeing all that people tweeted... I could scroll through my home page and get the pulse of the world on Twitter! A beautiful site! Comparatively now: Twitter is silent.
- Arleen Anderson
Robert, I'm having a jelly sandwich for lunch tomorrow. ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
All major television networks/news outlets should hire Scoble and heed this advice based on this weekends events in Iran. They need to learn how to listen, filter and understand how social media can deliver real-time information around the world.
- E-Advocate Network
böring
- yazarcizer
What tools are you using to keep track of the all that flows past?
- Inbox2 Team
Yeah, Robert is an Androïd! Each time I'm gotta 'like' 1 of his entries, comment, or visit links, I ask myself if I'm doing this because he is Scoble! Of course not: it's just because he's always pointing on valuable infos. And this is good for IT stuffs, for early adopters, for business.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
So, Scoble proves that the best search & filter engine is Human. (Nah.. I'm not a 'groupie', never will ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Curt, pple who don't follow others and hope to be followed & heard are obviously wrong. Social Media is not "Ego Media" ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Patrick, IMO Robert uses FriendFeed's search to find infos, & FF's email features to keep track of conversations & updates
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
or maybe you also miss some important ones because of the noise: like the patterns known by 99% of the users that have less than 1000 followers? does that make sense?
- Ouriel Ohayon
isn't that a little too much? do you even have time for anything else? Is it worth knowing about an earthquake some 30-40 minutes earlier than most people than spending some time with your real life friends?
- stefan
Stefan, the point is: if you want to spend as much time as possible with your real life friends, you have to be as efficient as possible during the time you spend in front of the computer. The more information you drink in a short time, the faster you can identify patterns.
- Brome
Best answer I've heard for why I'm also ok with following and listening to a ton of people on various platforms: "noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers. - Robert Scoble"
- Leslie Poston
Wow, that's a clever use of the platforms!
- gareth【ツ】
We need information so we can decide while staying in touch with reality. -> Filtering skills, Good Human filter, Good filter tool (FriendFeed).
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
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Thierry: thanks I was looking for that indeed! Have changed my settings to see how e-mail works out there but I thought maybe there would be an easier way...
- Patrick Mackaaij
hey it was great to finally personally meeting you and hung out at the diner ; my weblog about the evening now at http://ff.im/45HR3 plus infos about WE LIVE IN PUBLIC premiering now in L.A. and my new video "PERU" @ http://www.youtube.com/watch... ; all the best for the conference today and building43 ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Another FF question: I was under the assumption FF would merge duplicate imports so that conversations like these would remain in one place. If I do a search on a tending topic of today this does not seem to be the case: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Patrick Mackaaij
Patrick, the imports may be duplicate URLs or pictures or whatever, but the conversation around them could be different. I see this as a good thing, and it show me two things. (1) it is an intersection of the different groups and types of people that I subscribe to. (2) it can be different nationalities in different timezones. Ie, of a more global interest. Bothe are good pieces of data for me.
- Andy Bold
from email
@Brom, yes. but there is only so much information one can absorb at a time. 100.000 twitters and 25 FFs? Even half of it is too much for a normal person to take in that fast. Robert MUST be a robot O_O
- stefan
@Andy: I'd rather not see any duplicate URL's and have the conversation take place in one thread. Google Translate can solve the language problem. But my question at the moment was what the current status is. I see it's already discussed here: http://friendfeed.com/susanbe...
- Patrick Mackaaij
how do I follow thousands of people without clicking follow over and over
- Kyle Weller
Kyle: Use friendfeed and click "subscribe"
- Garin Kilpatrick
Kyle: its still required to click subscribe for each user, but those clicks are well spent, and FF also will show posts from friends-of-friends. another good option is to join some groups for subjects that interest you
- Mike Chelen
Wulffmorgenthaler.com | The Founders of Scandinavia - http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip...
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"I smell bacon this way" (I'm still laughing)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
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Not new at all but hey, I'm just the last person to discover it
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Now we know what the bacon addiction of social media will lead to
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Mmmm, bacon
- j1m
Matthew has a new lady friend, via long-distance relationship. Someday, the pair will meet and fall in love. @akiva @rochelles
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lol!
- Carmen
Matthew won't stop looking at Audrey. http://friendfeed.com/rochell... and http://friendfeed.com/rochell...
- Louis Gray
That is very cute! :D
- Rochelle
Awwwww
- Josh Haley
Totally beautiful! This should make Best of Year!
- jcunwired
Should have known that a Gray kid would pioneer Internet dating for the young. Is Matthew's sister seeing anyone? :)
- John E. Bredehoft
Too cute......
- Roberto Bonini
Come on, poor deprived child, he's using a MacBook Pro older than he is. That just aint right.
- Kevin Murray
"She can relate to me. Not like you big people." :) Adorable 2.0
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Don't tell the wife but your baby pictures sometimes makes me wish I had a little one too. aww.
- Wayne Sutton
That's the cutest one yet.
- Trish R
...why do i feel like these two are having a Stewie from "Family Guy" epiphany, while the adults marvel at this? ;-)
- .LAG liked that
:)
- Micah Wittman
Oh man, I thought the two images were stereoscopy, since they were so similar. They weren't. My brain hurts now =p
- Daniel Bruce
I'm amused that he's looking at the photo of her where she looks very incredulous and uncertain.
- Akiva Moskovitz
He's into younger girls?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: 1) Who isn't? (I'm so dead on this) 2) Sarah has a crush on Milan Scoble, who is a bit older.
- Louis Gray
Akiva, I am sure that she is unsure. She is quite young.
- Louis Gray
This is definitely a new frontier of social networking.
- Akiva Moskovitz
so cute
- mjc
now we need louis to videotape a session and provide commentary
- Allen Stern
JJ is available if Sarah is looking
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, that'd be a good option, but I don't want to have to leave the board of advisors to SocialToo. I recognize the potential for conflicts of interest.
- Louis Gray
How cute is that!!
- Mona Nomura
uber-cuteness :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
So adorable!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
ha ha, too funny!
- Moushumi Kabir
ha - for a minute there I thought they were Skyping each other. And that Matthew got all duded up for his date.
- Laura Norvig
Cutest thing I seen all day!
- Thunderwing
from twhirl
I also have twins (about the same age) and they have not watched TV yet. Yours are Mac'ing already. wow. :-)
- Antonio Altamirano
That is so cute!!! Hahahaaa!!
- Susan Beebe
Laura, Matthew always dresses sharp. You never know when you could meet "the one".
- Louis Gray
wow that is so cute
- Trail
So so cute!
- Mitchell Tsai
Now featured on The Gray Effect: http://www.thegrayeffect.com/2009...
- Louis Gray
Oh how cute is that ^__^!
- Nia
lol!
- BeeLing
baby photos FTW
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
babyfacebook
- johnpiercy
Louis, "the one" ... is that a 30 Rock reference? Just watched that episode last night.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, not a 30 Rock reference. All I know is that Matthew may or may not have exclusive pictures of Audrey posted up in his crib.
- Louis Gray
You laugh, but I met my wife online, on Stumbleupon.
- Thomas
So cute. Looks like it could also be the next installation in the etrade commericals...
- Renée Barrett
Audrey will post pictures of Matthew in her crib once she's big enough to have a crib. :)
- Rochelle
how did I miss this? lol
- Michael W. May
ha!
- sean percival
Just awesome!
- Martha
Matthew mac(k)ing in more ways than one. Totally cute!
- Trish Haley
Well, this is how *my* husband and I met - minus the webcam, plus 29 years ;)
- TheMacMommy
Cute!
- David Cook
More Ways Women Are Better Than Men http://thebeautybrains.com/2009...
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jesus.
- Zee.
Me thinks i need to write a greasemonkey script that doesn't load all the images on friendfeed straight away.
- Stephen Breen
WHAT THE
- nouhad
I posted the pic because I am wondering how that proves the blogger's point.
- Shevonne
You're right, Shevonne. That photo doesn't match the text of the blog. And it's creepy!
- Laura B needin' waders
I do find it interesting that we seem to be programmed to find something like this that occurs naturally to be unpleasent, yet tollerate it in males...
- alphaxion
@alphaxion True, but that is something, like with many other things, we have been raised to think is not attractive
- Shevonne
Then alphaxion, perhaps this means women are better at tolerating the natural form than men. Or on the flip side, women are 'better' at falling prey to conceived notions of what they must look like to be attractive.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
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- BEX
am i missing something? why the childish drama over a photo?
- Anika
Guess cause she has hair. The horror!
- Shevonne
that was feckin scary
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I'm wondering what "birth control interferes with mate selection" has to do with "ways women are better than men".
- Pat Rice
We vacationed in AC when I was little, many vacationing French Canadian women had the natural look. I guess it is something I prefer not for myself but don't find it as horrific due to early conditioning.
- Janet
@tina but surely men have fallen into the same trap, as exemplified by the "eek" kinda responses from the males. As I said, I just find it an interesting example of conditioning, as shevonne mentions.
- alphaxion
Woah... I'm somehow confused. I'm supposed to say "yuck", but I can't O.O
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
aaaaaaaaaaaah! running away :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Bwuh.
- Vince DeGeorge
"After a long day at work I don't need to see that!" - Valerie Cherish
- sean808080
that is just not right .
- johnpiercy
It is conditioning, don't delude yourself. Extremely effective since it has convinced entire generations that the only acceptable way for a women to look is like a pre-nubile child. Anything else is dirty. Goes very well with patriarcat which meant to keep women as minors all their life. And it make money, billions, so it perdures - but watch out, men, the same thing is happening to you...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I would love to be able to grow my hair out like that. I abhor shaving and waxing. Such a waste of time.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
WHOA
- Mike Nayyar
HIDE
- Alfredo
I'm finding this particular thread to be a rather intriguing study, in and of itself. In that the men are almost unequivocally screaming "UGHS" at the picture, while the women's reactions range from "meh" to "so?".
- Helen Sventitsky
HIDE! :P
- AJ Batac
Call me a hippy but i've dated a lot of beautiful women in my life and i cant remember any of them shaving their armpits. Guess i'm from oregon but you all seem insane to me to be bothered by this picture.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
It's not my bag, although it's not making my head explode. Reminds me of when I'd post pics of men in underwear on FF and I practically got death threats, yet a topless women got kudos and the virtual clink of beer bottles.
- Derrick
Agreed, Helen. Personally, I'm a mammal and that means I have hair. Crazy talk!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You do, Tina? Blasphemy!!! :D
- Helen Sventitsky
I do, Helen! And it's not just on my cranium either =O I must barely even qualify as female...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
++ Mammals, Tina!
- LogEx
I am having a related question with a male friend about women who shave their nether regions. He's all for it, and I'm not. When did shaving your ill nana become the thing?
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
Porno, g. warbucks. The odds of finding an unshaven female crotch in porno are extremely low. Finding one that hasn't even been trimmed, edged, and coifed? You'd stand a better chance of hitting the power ball.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@warbucks I do, but if I got to the reason why, it will be NSFW, so I will just say that I do
- Shevonne
G, I think that's more for guys who watch too many adult movies.
- Anika
I just hurled in my mouth a little.
- Lokei Atikus™®
@Tina and @Anika, agreed. I mean, that was almost rhetorical. It's porn chic, I know. It's kind of irritating when dudes think "the hair gets in the way." @Shevonne, oh I can imagine your NSFW reasons, and that's cool. Just not my preference. :)
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
I love how we've gotten to a point in society that we think hair on women is creepy. Now that's creepy.
- Kandeezie
we've gotten to a point in society where women as they naturally are is considered dirty/ugly/creepy. It started with waist size, then legs, then skin, then underarms, now crotch etc. What really creeps me out is that in the end what you're supposed to look like is, for all intents and purposes, a sexually mature, adult size 8 year old. And we wonder why pedophilia is on the rise? (yes, i exagerate a bit in that last sentence but it is almost a logical extreme to the current look expected of women)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I'm not really getting the objections to the photo.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
there shouldn't be any - she's got pretty eyes, and nothing was photoshopped to make it the skin smoother or tighter :D
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
NOTE: When I say I "Like" this, I really mean that it's disgusting.
- Brad Williamson
Gals, I feel sorry for you in the US and UK - if you forget to shave your arms (or cannot, perhaps you broke your arm or you want to go out camping) these men will suddenly find you disgusting. What about your own stinky armpits, males, can we wax them off for you?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hm...ninety years ago (more or less), the razor-blade companies realized that women weren't buying razor blades. Horrors! So they fired up the advertising campaigns: shave your armpits & legs, ladies, because hair is disgusting. It wasn't some evil patriarchal attempt to infantilize &marginalize women, it was crass commercialism. And it worked.
- Pat Rice
Strange also that the current fashion of male beardlessness isn't considered an attempt to infantilize & marginalize men.
- Pat Rice
That's because this has been a fashion for centuries - moustaches, yes, but beards, no... :D But seriously, without wanting to read too much into it, the fact is that we are all conditioned to view certain things as "normal" and others as "deviant" - and the trick is to be conscious of these and be able to shake them off at least a bit (which doesnt mean not shave, just not fall for...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Omg this is so gross. Hide.
- Mona Nomura
um, when those pits are sweaty and next to you in a crowded bus or train, i would have to disagree that women smell better :/
- Maria
Bearded men get the same flack. @Joelle - I sooooo agree. And @Pat, I agree partly. Patriarchy is responsible for so much. Don't dismiss it. And it does try to make women turn into legal little girls with the Brazilian waxes and such. It's a strong part of our culture to dislike aging women and idolize hairless young childlike females.
- Kandeezie
Bottom line is this, women shave their pits where I'm from. I'm not used to seeing a woman with hairy pits. On a logical level, it doesn't bother me. It's natural. This pic, however, throws the hairy pits in my face and makes me gag a little. I don't think many of us are used to seeing hairy pits at all. As far as the shaven ill nana, I don't mind a little netherfro (yes, I stole netherbeard from tinypants and pimped it...lol)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
When people talk about the patriarchy, I wonder what awesome powers I am supposed to have received from my Y chromosome. I can't even persuade my three-year-old to leave the windowshades alone, but I'm regularly accused of dominating & subjugating women I've never even met.
- Pat Rice
@Pat It's hard to apply a concept that speaks about society to the individual. It's not about the individual, but the collective. That's why it's so hard to understand patriarchy if you only look at you and what you do. It's like when people say "why should I vote?"
- Kandeezie
dear. god.
- Forrest Cox
Fascinating thread - read every word. Thanks everyone!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
you know, seeing this i realize it's been a long time since i've seen a woman--pic or irl--with armpit hair. it's really not the norm anymore. all my older sisters sported armpit hair in the 70s.
- edythe
:(
- sean percival
i can't believe there are any men under a certain age that would react well to armpit *or* bikini-area hair.
- edythe
not again [FACEPALM] HIDE HIDE KILL
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I agree totally - nobody disputes the fact that smooth is considered beautiful in our society (and even though it is interesting to question why, most of us do what is needed to fit in, since we have the same conditioning - i do!), but notice that the conditioning is so bad people don't go "oh, that's not pretty" they go "oh that is disgusting" - that shows that it goes beyond esthetics into something deeper and a lot less neutral
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
thing is, that hair is clearly clean and dry. so even though i'm not used to seeing it, it didn't gross me out. an interesting pic would be a woman all glammed up and with makeup with the hair.
- edythe
We are now even. http://friendfeed.com/joshhal...
- Josh Haley
In addition to the fact that her pits are pretty hairy, who equates arm pits with anything positive? They're like, the first place you sniff to see if you stink. I think the hair just happens to draw attention to an area that many people aren't all that interested in anyway...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
yes, the picture is also framed a bit unflatteringly - it might get a very similar reaction if it showed a man - maybe someone can make one to test this? PS: I disagree that women's sweat smells better than men's, some people smell less but on average it's a bit of a flat-yet-heavy smell that we could all do without (especially other people's smell)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, one thing to bear in mind is that women's sweat isn't supposed to smell better to you: it's supposed to smell better to men. Just like men's sweat is supposed to smell better than women. Moreover, that scent is exactly why we all have (or had) hair at the groin and armpit: those hairs trap naturally occuring scents and like it or not scent and pheromones play a role in human mating.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
makes a lot of sense of course - i just happen to have a stupidly oversensitive sense of smell (most perfume smells bad to me and worse on me and I have been known to detect water leaks in the wall by scent) so none of it smells good :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
To each his or her own in terms of preferences, but it would be great if we as a society could get over the overeactions to people who make different choices than we do, particularly when those choices are more natural and require less time, less effort, and less consumption.
- LogEx
1UP Logical. I can't believe the silliness displayed in this thread. Seriously, grow up.
- Derrick
Oh, fresh female sweat, if from the right person, can be quite enticing to a straight guy ;-) (and I'm sure it works for many people in lost of other combinations). Pheromones, you know, nature's way of getting animals to get it on.
- LogEx
I never hide posts but the picture on this one is making it tempting! :)
- Martin Bryant
What the ever loving eff?
- Mattb4rd
Women grow hair outta their armpits!?!?
- Brad Williamson
Liked for the discussion.
- nadim
Look away!
- Head Ov Metal
I'm amazed, though not shocked to see "OMG hide!" from people who probably didn't even bother to read the article. Pathetic.
- Anika
@joelle I'm sorry but bearded men were in for many centuries.. just look at the images we have of court digintaries or scientific minds of note. You'll notice the beard is quite often shown in various stages of kempt. I think it might be a good time to link and episode I wrote for rocketboom - http://www.youtube.com/watch... :)
- alphaxion
:))))))))))Wild Beauty
- zeitoon
*sprays on more cologne and deodorant*
- Ha3rvey (Free hugs!)
so gnarly.
- Drew Lucas
A lot of growth on this thread today, Shevonne. No need to trim though, it's all good.
- LogEx
Brad, I gotta ask: are you being funny, or serious?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
the nice thing about twitter is that posts dissapear. friendfeed resurrects stuff, and this case I'm not enjoying the image.
- Bill Carroll
from twhirl
@Tina I'm being forserious ;-)
- Brad Williamson
Just had to check =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Amazing how completely brainwashed by marketing we've become. Mr. Gillette, you were a cagy bastard.
- Chris Baskind
That picture scares me.
- Zach Flauaus
Nothing wrong with hirsute women, Zach.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This woman DARED to undergo puberty and become an adult! Yes, we should shun her and hide her away!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
The recent pictures of Madonna at age 21 sold at auction had her with the natural look. Seeing this image all day and I am still okay with this. I forget also I am in a backward area and a lot of my older Mennonite and Amish ladies don't shave.
- Janet
I'm terribly sorry for giving my opinion people. It's just kind of weird scrolling down and then seeing that picture. The article just screams ignorance though. And I'm not saying that because I'm a guy. I'm saying that because it's all like "oh, let's one-up them." What about this whole equality thing? Oh that's right. Dead and gone.
- Zach Flauaus
Zach: There never was much of an equality thing to begin with. It's been a game of one-up-man-(or-woman)-ship the whole time.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Why are we still bumping these hairy ass pits?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
It's all for you, Rah. It's all for you. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
would i rather get in bed with a woman with hairy pits or a man with a ponytail...? oh, i think the answer is very clear.
- edythe
Rah ™, hairy ass is an entirely different matter.
- LogEx
1UP hairy ass.
- Derrick
eeeeewwwwwwww!
- Diego Barros
yuck !
- viki saigal
she hasn't shaved yet.
- edythe
این تولدش کی ه؟؟ من براش یه ژیلت ونوس بخرم؟؟؟
- امیـرعلیـــ کنـکـوریـــ
she already did one lap with the lawn mower it looks like. :)
- rob friedman
probably, I had been too much exposed to 70s porn back in my puberty time -- don't see any weird in armpit & pubic hair :)))))
- A.T.
That's way more armpit hair than I have. Just to be clear, I'm an adult male and have never shaved it.
- Karl Knechtel
Thanks - great way to start my morning. lol!
- Beth Blair
Natural beauty right there gentlemen!
- Siddharth Deb
NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hahaha this thread. I'm sorry. I have nothing more to add.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
How WENN uses copyright threats as a sales tool - http://www.inquisitr.com/21969...
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Hahahahahah oops...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Idiot. And this is why I don't like when players fool around on the field. DO YOUR JOB! ugh.
- ♥patricia♥
LOL DOH!
- CW™
that was amazing. and it did autoplay in FF! how hot is that. i hope the coach benched that guy!
- Charles Hudson
Oh dumb people...
- Mike Nayyar
that is awesome, reminds me of the banking industry
- Bryan Thatcher
The wonderful thing about tiggers is tiggers are wonderful things. The tops are made of rubber, the bottoms are ... oh shit!
- Mattb4rd
What a wanker.
- Andrew Trinh
This never gets old. and the fact he didn't learn from this is even better http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- BCK
I think the death penalty is legal in cases like this.
- Dave Winer
Zee your website is throwing HTTP 500 errors doesn't look good. :(
- rob friedman
yeah, sucks eh Rob....bloody site5...should be up in a few more minutes...(hopefully)
- Zee.
+10 dave =D
- Ken Morley
huh, that's nifty that you have the comments fed from here into your blog post. :) which plugin is it?
- rob friedman
yeah, it's awesome - not sure if i'm meant to be talking about it just yet though. They haven't released it but i'm testing it out
- Zee.
pillock!
- Rob Sellen :o)
please share when you can Zee, I'm very interested.
- rob friedman
from twhirl
<hand smacking forehead>
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
LOL!!!!
- Luca Filigheddu
Hilarious !
- Nir Ben Yona
ROTFL
- Robie
can't believe it :D
- antonio pavolini
so close and yet so far from the target =)
- Davide D'Incau
lololol
- Chris Farrugia
AHAHAHAHAHA!
- vijay
lol
- Alp
@Peter - so true.
- Nir Ben Yona
LOL. Oh man, I guess he had a nice conversation with the coach after this :)
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
pmsl show of eh lol
- eric
I think the correct expression would be 'Oops'.
- Erwin Blonk
missed it by that much...
- Gary Fredrick
oops....
- ybs
ahahahahahaha
- Lucio
Cool :-)
- Zee Waqar
wuajajajajajaj great!
- Francisco Kemeny
looks like an Eagles receiver...
- Anthony Farrior
What a muppet! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
BCK is right: he didn't learn. FAIL.
- Bill Sodeman
XD
- Jay
hahahah :)
- Metin Kahraman
Anthony - yeah - and he did it again on Monday Night Football this season - learned nothing from this earlier balls-up ....
- Patrick Jordan
One of the top 10 animated GIFs of all time
- Roger Benningfield
somene did a self-pwnage!
- imabonehead
a) Was he trying to break his longest touchdown dive record? b) Was it something that worked during training sessions? c) Is he excessively stupid? d) All of the above
- Nenad Nikolic
这个绝对有意思
- 佛徒
None other than Philly's own DeSean Jackson. Best part? He didn't even learn from this, as Patrick said. It's all about ME.
- Sean O
just found the video - what a pillock http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Zee.
231! terrific, let's ffholic this, that must be #1. ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
#4 for those interested, great post Zee, the animated gif gave a feeling on that first FF beta day that was inexplicable, modern times type of feeling, that things were changing for the service in interaction gathering. 8}
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
missed it by that much lol
- Zax Stevens
Can hear Homer now.... Doh!
- Michael Karagines
People who don't like my green avatar are not nice. That said I will change it soon.
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SCOBLE. SMASH!
- Jesse Stay
I think it's kind of cool. Green looks great on everyone.
- Chris Baskind
Scoble has become the Hulk | Saw this for the first time :-)
- Palin Ningthoujam
Hey, whatever it took to get your battery fixed :-)
- Todd Hoff
Looking at it all day only then realised its Scoble as the Hulk
- Nick Stone
Nooooo!!!. It just needs some more color.Like red horns or something ;-)
- Tapio Kulmala
I vote it stays for at least a month.
- Thomas Hawk
i don't mind with green, but the face looks scarry :-)
- Eris Ristemena
It's not easy being green.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I just thought that was a photo after all of the tequila!
- Lou Paglia
I say keep it. Most avatars are very drab. Not yours.
- Daniel Buckley
Keep this avatar. It looks cool. It looks like you had one too many glasses of green beer and then got pissed off after being irradiated at the hospital.
- imabonehead
Oh, it's not that hard. Kermit is such a drama queen.
- Chris Baskind
Looks fine to me
- LPH™ and his dog P™
After listening to the Gillmur (sp) Gang, I am shocked he literally didn't turn into the Hulk and smash Mike Arrington. :P
- Mol, Time Warping
Don't make Scoble mad. You wouldn't like him when he's mad.
- Aaron Tinling
@thomashawk WOULD like it because he made it. Personally I love it.
- Robert Scoble
Okay, I'm starting to get it. Real time is FUN!
- Aaron Tinling
Aaron: it is even more fun in bed! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I like it! It's funny!
- anna sauce
Robert: twss
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I love it
- Loic Le Meur
I'm with Loic - think it's perfect.
- alexia tsotsis
Green logo looks scary! Can't show it to my kid :)
- Krishna
liked for the green avatar. ;)
- Thomas Hawk
Yes... please change it... it's ugly
- François Lamontagne
Nice or not, all I know is I liked the smiling and friendly Scoble. Beside, this shade of green hurt my eyes. :)
- Moushumi Kabir
I like it too. (but that's only because my mother always told me to be polite to people you don't really know)
- Ton Zijp
I don't understand why people are having issues with your avatar. I mean, really? Get over it. It's you. It's green. Move on, people!
- Lise
Liked "The Green" Nuclear even ...the rest is skerry...vewwwy skeewwy
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The Green Av Rocks! Incredible Hulk Look!
- JimmyJet
If I had the time I would make a pink one - same pic, just pink.
- WorldofHiglet
There are people who don't like it? They must be very strange people... :)
- Grant Bierman
Please don't change it
- Mo Kargas
Do change it
- John Samuel
I have been struggling with its meaning for days. It gives me agita.
- Martha
Leave it, it has that 70's hulk feel to it...and most of us who geekily remember that 70's version get the meaning anyway.
- George Hall (Australia)
+1 George Hall
- chaz2b
Robert: That avatar image is how I picture you looking, each time someone on Twitter accuses you of making "too much noise." Don't blame Scoble for the noise - blame Twitter's lame interface and lack of filters!! :-)
- Jim Connolly
Why does anyone care about the effing avatar?!? I don't get it, it's the content that's interesting. Avatars are only meaningful to the person behind anyway.
- Johan Mellberg
from twhirl
dont change your avtar. it looks me really good.
- shahid
I think you should stick with it, try a new image and associated color every month
- Patrick Boegel
keep it, you're the hulk of sending web traffic ;)
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
Keep it. It's great and fun!
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I think its cool, maybe people should be able to set avatars for people :o
- Nicholas James
They're green with envy (sorry bad joke I know.)
- Richard A.
Hulky!
- Kelly W.
NO, It's cool green! - A good color to be.
- d. johnson
I can't stand it - where's the smiling guy pointing over my shoulder?
- James Hull
It is not very appealing.
- Walinmichi
Mr. Scoble, how come your "What I hate about real-time web " post in Scobleizer doesn't show up in my Google Reader feed of your FF? http://tinyurl.com/cjacz2
- Da
They're just jealous of your superpowers.
- Kirsti Scott
You should keep it. It is really funny and easy to understand.
- Alp
nothing wrong with that avatar. however, if (avatarColor()==#01C501){ hidePost(); }. j/k
- AJ Batac
Obama attends Basketball game, has beer. Guess what this results in. - http://www.inquisitr.com/19222...
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The guy on his left may have been SS. The boy on his right certainly wasn't, though.
- Gabe
Around the World in 116 Beers - Why wasn't I invited?! - http://www.sloshspot.com/blog...
Sarah Perez, Morton Fox, Michael W. May and 4 other people liked this
5 Misconceptions Bloggers Have About Themselves - http://www.winextra.com/2008...
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Steven Hodson makes me smile.
- Steve Spalding
from Bookmarklet
Those are all true.
- Trish R
now, if all these bloggers would "join up" and blog together... they'd get a lot more traffic/money/ friends/boobs... oh i mean famous.
- Joshua Schnell
wow, if I had those expectations I would quit blogging years ago
- William Harryman
thanks Steve :)
- Steven Hodson
No problem mate, I liked it a lot.
- Steve Spalding
and even your myth busting post exaggerates the importance of tech blogging and tech bloggers.
- Jim Hearts FF
@Jim well if it makes you feel any better I don't think I'm important at in the scheme of things
- Steven Hodson
errr, that's not what I was trying to say. But while we're at it, neither am I.
- Jim Hearts FF
I Hate Blogging - http://howtosplitanatom.com/news...
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but I'll never leave, heh . . .
- Steve Spalding
quite possibly on of the best link-baity type of blog post titles ever. and a good read, too.
- Mark Dykeman
If it got you to read it Mark, definitely worth it. Cheers. :)
- Steve Spalding
As always with this series, feedback is more than appreciated. I say that every time with these posts but it's only because I really mean it.
- Steve Spalding
Fox concludes Larry Flynt's 'Palin porno' is legal - http://rawstory.com/news...
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Publisher Larry Flynt has announced that Hustler is releasing a porn film featuring a Sarah Palin lookalike and a tank full of stranded Russian soldiers. Fox's Megyn Kelly was immediately sure that "your average American -- it's offensive, it's disgusting it's dirty -- they wouldn't want to see it." But her real question was, "Is this whole thing actually legal?"
- Alejandro
I heard this on the radio this morning -- it's going to be called "Nailin' Palin." HAHAHAHA.
- Trish R
I just love Larry Flynt, this is hilarious. Sounds like Larry misses the Supreme Court though and probably has a point to make
- Lindsey is Fierce!
How could this in any way be illegal?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I once picked up a porn movie CD case at a video store and read the blurb (just read the blurb mind you). It mentioned a certain President George Shrub. If that passes, how can this not? Though I don't know if the Shrub character was actually involved in any of the action in the movie.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
transcript of the first scene: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Alejandro
This quote kills me: "there's going to be an undercurrent suggesting somehow that this is the way Sarah Palin lives her life, that there's some deep dark secret she has." Who would think this based on a porn by Larry Flynt? I mean, seriously, are people that dumb?
- Michelle Martinez
It can be illegal because the GOP says it is.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Fox apparently thinks we *are* that dumb.
- Victor Ganata
+1 Lindsey and Lindsay, but parody is protected. God bless Larry Flynt.
- Cyndy
@shelnew19 yea, some people are that dumb. Personally, if the McCain loons keep it up, i'll start claiming Sarah Palin did a porn that was released by Hustler.
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I think this Palin-clone is more sexually philanthropic....
- Terence
Yeah, this porno was so nasty and dirty that Fox just *had* to comment on it. Right after their breathless special on Hooters' waitresses.
- Steven Perez
Huge ufo hovers over Shanghai China stir crowds must see - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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ummmm
- Toby Graham
so many flaws with that..
- alphaxion
Blogging in crisis, job #1 - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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Oh. My. Hell. Robert, every time I start thinking you make sense, you post something like this. Not all of us use Google Reader, and some of us have lives. It doesn't mean that we aren't reading everything under the sun (last cleanout left me at a few over 800 blogs in my reader, I think) and linking to some of those alternate views and sharing them on FF and blogs and emailing them as...
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- Cyndy
well said cyndy. i dont generate a lot of content, mostly listening, learning and understanding, but it's hard to have a "real" life (even if it is digitally integrated as mine is...im what you'd call a "digital native").
- stanleyyork
If I want information about an economic crisis, why do I care what psuedo-technical bloggers are reading?
- Jason Carreira
Cyndy: I'm reacting to a few things. 1. People been quoting me without even looking at the totality of what I'm doing, so that tells me they aren't reading very well. 2. I'm seeing post after post with very few links. 3. I've noticed that there are "blogging families" being built up who won't link to other "blogging families." Plus, lots of opinions out there and not enough sharing. Anyone on FriendFeed is doing more sharing than the average blogger, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
Stanley: if you don't have time to read even TechMeme and link to a few items there that informed your opinions you probably don't have much time to blog, either.
- Robert Scoble
Jason: you should see the stuff coming through my Google Reader. Lots of VCs. Lots of considered opinions. Worth reading, IMO.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoobie, please LISTEN to me you ultra-listening blogger... stop talking about this navel gazing stuff you aren't expert at and go interview ten new tech companies and cheerlead the hell out of them. Stick to your talking points. Sell the future. Promote new investment. I'm 100% of your "followers" agree. Dance with the one who brung ya. You are the dogfood eating tech cheerleader. You aren't madonna, you don't deserve to recreate yourself. Stick to the script.
- Morgan Warstler
And that's the bonus of blogging at a site that's outside the Techmeme echo chamber. I'm more and more convinced that Techmeme and Digg and the like have reinforced the exact notion you are talking about. I link to whoever I find interesting, and I'm lucky enough to work with people who read OTHER things than I do and exchange those sources. I have a category of blogs that almost never gets read in my reader because it's the same regurgitation of the same story. I don't think reading Techmeme will cure it.
- Cyndy
@Robert why do I need you as an intermediary in that? Who the hell cares what Techmeme says? I thought you were trying to escape the echo chamber, not anoint yourself its king? I read plenty of stuff myself, and VC's would not be on the first page of my list of "considered opinions" on the economy. Look at the crap they fund with no revenue model, and you think I care what they think about the economy?
- Jason Carreira
Ok this is interesting. Top bloggers are not evidencing their opinions and that makes their opinions/reporting less convincing. Well, in principle I agree with that because I come from a scientific background and follow the need to cite sources and linking in a blog is such a simple thing to do. But do you really think that they are not reading widely or that they are not showing their working out? Because they are different things entirely.
- WorldofHiglet
Jason: OK, if you are so good at finding cool stories about the economy from real experts, I'd love to see them!!! That's my whole point. Listen before talking. Demonstrate that!
- Robert Scoble
WorldofHiglet: I'm saying exactly that, yes. Lots of people don't like to read opposite points of views to their own. They also don't like to credit sources for a variety of reasons, none of which are reader friendly. Me? I like sharing who is bringing interesting ideas to the world. I regularly link to people who say they've unsubscribed from me. And I regularly get shit because I link to both Mashable and TechCrunch. :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Robert here's a good one: http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008...
- Jason Carreira
Again you use the word 'my audience' which just goes against the grain. Robert, I really enjoy the value you bring to my online experience. I have my own items in google readers and then I use you as a secondary news source. But you are a secondary news source for tech news (I thought your interview with the twitter guys was compelling with an insider edge that mainstream 'journalism'...
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- PaulJohnson
Mitch Joel: "link journalism" http://www.twistimage.com/blog...
- stanleyyork
@ Scoobie: "Jason: OK, if you are so good at finding cool stories about the economy from real experts, I'd love to see them!!!" See there, you KNOW that's what people expect of you, you know it is your talent, so please stop trading on that and making us listen to all the other bullshit - what FF needs is a Scoobie doing his job filter that kills all your other silly lamentations.
- Morgan Warstler
"1. People been quoting me without even looking at the totality of what I'm doing, so that tells me they aren't reading very well. 2. I'm seeing post after post with very few links. 3. I've noticed that there are "blogging families" being built up who won't link to other "blogging families." Plus, lots of opinions out there and not enough sharing. Anyone on FriendFeed is doing more sharing than the average blogger, by the way." - agree re: linking - I absolutely HATE that
- Jesse Stay
So the question is... if there are other examples of people doing what you're doing, why not link to their link blogs or FriendFeed discussion pages? There's probably a good list out there. Want me to go first?
- Louis Gray
I think Scoble's post is important for one core reason: that we ought to learn to be active listeners, even to people whom we disagree with. I think its a core idea that a lot of people would agree with but very few practice, not just in our blogging but also in our daily lives. Steven Covey talks about the practice of active listening. The Bible says we should be quick to listen and slow to speak. Personally, I think it's good advice.
- Justin Long
+10 Louis I've started doing it more (linking out to where I found stuff) as well as moving outside 'the echo chamber'. I can't wait to see what this landscape looks like a year from now!
- Charlie Anzman
The search benefits of blogging lure the same people to blogging that weren't listening before. Why expect them to listen now? Blogging is mainstream!
- Douglas Karr
from twhirl
if not only bloggers but also the politicians and economist just listening, the world will be a better place, just my 2 cents
- Ahmed Ramy Zaky
from twhirl
How are people conflating "listening" with "linking to everything you read"? Isn't it possible to read things without linking to them?
- Jason Carreira
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