SUMMARY: 9 months ago most of us hadn't even heard of the guy. But today he's breaking tech news like the best of them. Active on FriendFeed. And, already the most popular non-employee Newsmaker on socialmedian. http://www.socialmedian.com/users...
- Jason Goldberg
I don't think he is breaking news and I think he would agree. As he said yesterday, he uses and abuses (my word) products and services for a period of time before he comments. Thats not news. I do think Louis is probably one of the best and most INFORMATIVE bloggers in the english world though. PS. I hate TechCrunch news, and prefer substance and information like Mr LG :)
- Roger Kondrat
I think they're quite different. Like 'em both.
- Chris Baskind
He's definitely the best writer, regardless. Informed, humble, unique voice.
- Rick Powell
With Louis Gray and Robert Scobles, it feels more like editorials and opinions compared to the press releases kind of posts that lot of other bloggers write.
- Nishith Shah
boy the tech elitism is incestuous. why would anyone want to be called the Next...
- Noah David Simon
Funny question. Complete Different however. Louis is more analytical, Scoble is more storyteller.
- Jeremiah Owyang
You guys are being too nice, of course. Scoble does a great job being himself, and I'm just happy to participate. I'm not out to be anybody else.
- Louis Gray
Is Louis Gray a Scoble killer? Early adopters are taking to the new platform with gusto, but some analysts believe that an upcoming Scoble upgrade will put the brand firmly back on track...
- Sprague D
Why would he want to be the next Scoble?
- andy brudtkuhl
Let me correct myself. I don't think Louis is going to replace Scoble. But, I do think he is evolving into a worthy counterpart and compliment and fresh face on the scene.
- Jason Goldberg
I'm trying to be the next Louis Gray. I keep coming up short, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: you and Mariam just need to crank out some more babies, then :-p
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
Pirate's got a point. One baby at a time isn't going to cut it in this competitive marketplace.
- Louis Gray
Of course, it only works if your kids can hold a job ;)
- Jason Carreira
@Scoble: And Louis' twins are by far the yongest emplloyees I've ever seen, especially on a tech blog. I think your son lacked some promotin initially :)
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
You gotta put the kids to work early in promoting the family business, at least, if not in helping earn the family's bread directly. It's how pirates turn a profit. :-)
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
This is a funny thread! I love how Robert & Louis both have a terrific and witty sense of humor!! they both are techies, love to blog about it, and are really all-around great guys! I want to meet them both someday!!
- Susan Beebe
You can't really say that Louis Gray is going to be the *next* Robert Scoble. Having a bunch of Scoble-clones would probably make the Web boring. Louis Gray is unique and interesting. :)
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Jesus, does everything these days have to ride on whether or not TechCrunch likes something? I'd focus on making the product successful without needing a thumbs-up from some tech pundit.
- Nathaniel Payne
I say don't let him use it at all... block his email address :-)
- andy brudtkuhl
Oh i don't care about a techcrunch review, i just want mike to try and like the service. I think he'll really like it and appreciate it and frankly i'd enjoy following him on it.
- Jason Goldberg
What interests me about socialmedian is the filtering. In my post about the conversational Web, I disagreed with Jeremiah Owyang, who suggested, information on the social web needs to be sorted around people, not content My thinking: Jeremiah is a smart and interesting guy. I follow him on Twitter and FriendFeed, but I’m not really interested in what he ate for breakfast (not that he...
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- Christian Anderson
Still very beta. When not logged in, most links point to the registration screen (including all external links, as far as I can tell). Can't tell if functionality is any more than a subset of FF.
- Ozan Onay
Social Median doesn't seem too different to me from Twine. Essentially you form conversation networks and clip articles, which based on that data, algorithmically figures out what news you like and don't like. But it's good to see that the next wave of innovation is in personalized social news aggregators... Now we just have to see who emerges from the pack as the frontrunner.
- Jonathan Wong
It looks nice and it's easy to create a profile and join relevant networks, although most of the active ones seem to be social networking-related at the moment. Seems similar to Twine in that it's clustering content around topic-based networks. I'd probably use it to find and share interesting content on Friendfeed and other blogs. But how many niches are available for social news sharing sites like this?
- David Young
from NoiseRiver
Interesting, but when you click on any link it always sends you to the login/registration page; and this can be a turn off….
- Joao
So far socialmedian has proven valuable to me. I've been turned on to stories I would have otherwise missed. Similarly, I seem more valuable on sm than here on ff. My own shares on sm have been clipped more than any of my shares on ff have been liked. A lot more. So that in itself encourages me to use it more. There aren't many conversations on sm that I can see, however, which is why I use ff, as well, despite often feeling like I'm wasting my time.
- Rick Powell
@Rick. I realize I'm digressing from the topic, but I've found that I get more Likes and Comments on FF if I share stuff to rooms, than just to my feed. I guess because rooms are focused around specific topics and they don't have as fast a turnover as individual feeds. Once you're subscribed to 20+ people, especially power users, your Friendfeed has a ridiculously fast turnover, meaning you may not see a share unless you use it constantly.
- David Young
hey all. reading the posts and wanted to reply about the registration requirements. Truth is we wish we were able to enable users to do more without registering but just weren't able to get that done in time for beta and didn't want to hold back public beta because of it. Will improve over time.
- Jason Goldberg
I share racier, queer-er stuff to one of my rooms, and film stuff to my new Cineaste room. But no comments or likes. Passive readers?
- Rick Powell
Yeah, I've been testing Socialmedian for a while now, but I'm not overly impressed. That said, I haven't been finetuning it very much. BTW Robert, how can you be online nearly 24. I'm increasingly convinced that you indeed are a Scoble-mesh :)
- Melle Gloerich
I see you are already trying it out :)
- Nishith Shah
It's a work in progress. So please pass along suggestions.
- Jason Goldberg
Congratulations to the socialmedian team!
- Nishith Shah
Agreed, great work. I signed on in the early Alpha stage and have been quite happy with it. Will be interesting to see what happens now SM's public.
- Mo Kargas
I'm there signing up, I'm wishing them luck and the best for them
- George The Writer
How can I find out if you've subscribed to my FriendFeed?
- Lawrence Liu
from twhirl
According to the little bubble, not me. Even though you said the other day I was being added to the World Wide Talk Show. ;-) Oops, can't press Enter for a newline. What I was going to say, prior to the Post button getting unexpectedly pressed, is that I cannot imagine following 20,000 (or even some fraction of that) on FF. It's gotta be tough as it is on Twitter.
- Joanmarie
Guessing that comments are the way to let you know :)
- Jed White
Holy crap. You've practically got the SNN goin' on - Scoble News Network ?? You will all be featured this week on Fast Company TV - Submit bio to ...
- Charlie Anzman
This is the greatest thing to happen to anyone ever! Cheesecake for everybody.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I let you know via Twitter, perhaps this is more appropriate.
- bill shamam
IF you are able to WITHSTAND fair portion of Russian (sorry, but I try to bring here my community from Russian segment of livejournal.com after buyout disaster) and/or stream of Nokia-tablet/Maemo/etc related-stuff and/or a lot of bitch about this and that... http://friendfeed.com/silpol ;)
- A.T.
Robert, I appreciate your efforts, but I'm afraid that if I follow you (and you follow me in return), I'll have to deal with a lot of noise, and a lot of hype. Once you get worked up about something, you have this need to talk about it all the time, and to impose your point of view (ex: FaceBook). That's why I unsubscribed from your blog a while back. I couldn't deal with it any more. You shot down two of my comments without even bothering to consider them. Take this for what it's worth, no hard feelings.
- Raoul Pop
You're not subscribed to me, here, but anything I have to say that might be interesting to you, I say in a comment anyway... I'm not very talkative, but I enjoy watching your conversation!
- Kenneth LeFebvre
FriendFeed is invincible. It's not a question of if they can, but if they want to.
- Louis Gray
*shock and awe* - the friendfeed community rightly thinks that friendfeed is > greader + comments.
- Charles Hudson
I feel the head-swimming affect going on with all the re-verb re Google Reader adding the new Notes feature... Cool idea way past due. Sooo many voices, so much feeedback... whoa... no more blog posts req'd. Louis you are WISE to question the value of yet another blog post (echo).
- Susan Beebe
I did post a quick note on the customization of the link blog, as that's getting overlooked with the Notes discussion. http://tinyurl.com/6xje72
- Louis Gray
Cool blog post Louis :-) keep sending Google the good ideas and let's hope and pray they implemented them quicker!
- Susan Beebe
I don't feel drawn to adding anything in Google Reader notes to be honest and agree with the general opinion that FriendFeed is better in that aspect. Would be good as mentioned to import the notes as then at least it would make this the location for comments/notes without it being spread (possibly) thinly across both!
- Joe Dawson
For those that want the "feel" of a newspaper but with information from the web. Same idea as Zinio did for real magazines in a way. Good post, but some of the other news readers are grabbing my attention right now
- Chris Miller
Not to be a bastard, but if Dave was on FriendFeed, he would have known this about 5 minutes after it happened. :-) Dave, why aren't you on here?
- David Bisset
I checked blog.twitter.com myself and found no announcement. I'm on MojiPage/FriendFeed at the moment, and apparently @ev and/or @twitter_status made some sort of announcement, but I can't view either Twitter account, and MojiPage's FriendFeed widget doesn't have good navigation. Yet.
- Ontario Emperor
Just successfully viewed @twitter_status. They announced 1/2 hour ago that they lost a database server.
- Ontario Emperor
I can see it via ev's friendfeed but w/o twitter being up a message sent there seems worthless
- Susan Reynolds
from Alert Thingy
Thanks Dave. His status update http://tinyurl.com/5p7dbj reads "We lost a database server, which is causing lots of errors. Reloading the page may work. It's in the process of recovery." as of 10:50 pm ET.
- Mitchell Tsai
Since using Intense Debate, I'm getting more commentary as well. Could just be a coincidence that I'm reaching out more directly to my community as well.
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy
Disqus just makes it easier for people to comment I think. Easier to comment = more likely to comment = more comments
- Benjamin Golub
plus much easier for bloggers to respond to comments (e.g. by email) . that means more conversation which means more comments
- Alex Gawley
Yes, that is my number 1 favorite Disqus feature. Replying via email lets me reply to comments while mobile from my phone. Conversation definitely helps comments.
- Benjamin Golub
Didn't realize Disqus provided e-mail commenting. But TypePad integration still requires advanced templates, right? (if so, FAIL)
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy
I agree with Ben -- the ability to respond to a comment quickly via email is a killer feature
- mathew ingram
What are the stats on the platforms Disqus is being used on? Why is the simple integration to TypePad seemingly impossible for Disqus? (btw - happy to beta-test that integration, if it's an incentive)
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy
One of the major benefits of Disqus not being mentioned here is the nested comments. That enables better conversations without using the @ replies necessary in Blogger, etc.
- Louis Gray
Nested replies is the main benefit of any of these grafted-on solutions. Out of the box commenting on most blog platforms is completely broken. Nightmare to follow once the volume begins to climb. SezWho, Intense Debate, and surely others provide this.
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy
"For one, tumblr doesn't have any commenting system. So something like Disqus is a necessity. And other, it's interesting to see how Disqus' APIs work. Right now it seems I can only import the comments in something like friendfeed, but it doesn't allow to write a comment from outside the Disqus world."
- Nishith Shah
Go sign up for a Disqus account. They walk you through setting up commenting in Tumblr.
- elroy
from Alert Thingy
and yet comments on aggregators create conversations away from blogs
- Adam Kazwell
i agree - its validation - whether they agree or disagree is moot. the fact that someone was compelled to reply is reward enough
- Morgan
from twhirl
i agree - its validation - whether they agree or disagree is moot. the fact that someone was compelled to reply is reward enough - actually those that challenge the assumptions often make the piece many times more valuable than if it had not been commented/challenged/etc.
- Morgan
from twhirl
Here's a crazy something I was thinking last night: what if bloggers wrote an entry, waited for it to show up on Friendfeed, and simply edited their post to point to the Friendfeed conversation? GOOD: centralized comments, more people signing up for Friendfeed (and possibly to that person specifically), much less likelihood of spammy comments, easier to move blog to new system later (don't have to move comments).
- Adam Lasnik
But the downsides: is fully reliant on FF and assumes it will be around forever, requires commenters to have a FF account, gives content to FF so many searchers would go there, not the person's blog.
- Adam Lasnik
If you want centralised comments, surely Disqus is the way to go?
- Ian Betteridge
from twhirl
I played with Disqus for a long time last night, though. Great customer service, really super features, and decent ease-of-use. Major downsides, though: Disqus doesn't yet have a sustained track record so (forgive me) I worry about them not being around in 2 years; even though one could get all comments out, that's still not effective portability IMHO. And two, for some odd reason, most of the Disqus integration options paste in comments via javascript, not php; search engines don't see 'em.
- Adam Lasnik
Disqus also doesn't show trackbacks yet.
- Ranjit Mathoda
I like to think of not showing trackbacks as a feature.
- engtech
It would be nice if Disqus had API to post comments directly from friendfeed etc
- Nishith Shah
Every grafted on approach for commenting seems to have issues - like invisibility for SEM, trackback not integrated, ownership of comments, etc.. That said, I'm using Intense Debate, and aside from some stumbles/bugs that they've quickly fixed, it's all good.
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy
And Fred - definitely agree. Comments are golden. Need more. Will blog for comments! :)
- Dan Keldsen
from Alert Thingy