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Just talked with Scoble for an hour on the way to SFO. Man I love talking with him. Neither of us like white papers, we like software you can use. I asked if he knows how to get a permalink to a message on FriendFeed. He says you click on the datestamp. Sure enough, it works! He says you can 2click it for a fun trick too. I haven't tried that yet.

July 20 - Comment - Like - Share

Meryn Stol, Mathew A. Koeneker, ishak and 68 other people liked this

Wow I didn't know that trick. Thanks you two. - anna sauce

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Cool trick. I love when Scoble shares these. - Steve Rubel

I think that was covered in a Ffundercast epicsode. Or I'm blitzed... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from fftogo

Scoble is one smart mofo, and a nice guy too. - Dave Winer

I'm always amazed by how much FF has "under the hood". - Bill Kinney

:) - Susan Beebe

Sweet trick, I was just looking for that... - Thom Kennon

Yeah, Alex is a good guy. - Cristo

I would recommend they use the purple hashmark as the permalink symbol. Pretty much the standard in the blogging world (which is where permalinks come from, btw). I use a gif for the permalinks on scripting.com. http://www.scripting.com/images... - Dave Winer

Cristo - I believe Dave was referring to Robert Scoble @Scobleizer, Alex's brother LOL - Susan Beebe

Robert? Haven't heard of him. - Cristo

Really, no way? - Susan Beebe

http://Scobleizer.com - Susan Beebe

who's Cristo? - Thom Kennon

Is he a programmer? (I'm going to get blocked, I can feel it) - Cristo

He *loves* FriendFeed. - Susan Beebe

Susan's right. I do love FriendFeed. - Cristo

hahhaha! (Edit: I was referring to Robert Scoble) - Susan Beebe

Oh behave Chris... Is Alex not online? :p - Brian Daniel Eisenberg from iPhone

2clicking the datestamp pops up the post in it's own window ..pretty sweet. - John Blanton

I must not have my browser set up to recognize the diff. between the one-click and the texas 2 click. - beersage

i like alex too - everytime we talk its great - same experience you mention! - Allen Stern

Timestamp! Brilliant! I never knew until now. - Keith Bourgoin

You should check out http://www.tweets2mail.com if you're interested as well, a service to backup your tweets (as well as friends), replies, direct messages, and mentions to your email/gmail. - NerdyHearn

all that the second click is doing is adding a ?embed=1 to the end of the permalink... and I'm VERY surprised that Dave did not know about this since it was heavily discussed during live chats attached to the Gillmor Gang and TWiT Live streams... - Chris Heath

That's a great tip - James Stratford

You learn something almost every day from Scoble. Today, two things, the timestamp click AND the awesome 2click! Thankyouverymuch! - Mark Edwards

I am sorry, but what's 2click here. I am sure I am missing something obvious? - Anand Sharma

@Anand - single click the date stamp to go to the permalink version of the post. Double click it, to open it in its own window. - Rick Cogley

+1 what Chris Heath said. I thought this was an old thread or something. Leo Laporte has been talking about this clicking the timestamp thing for at least 3 months. - Adam Turetzky

double-clicking the datestamp doesn't do anything for me. Never has. Must be a firefox/ubuntu thing. - Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane

I was looking for this for a long time.. Robert knows everything about FF ;) - Jacque

Me, tool. What's 2click? - Jason Miller

Slippy it works for me in safari. - Rick Cogley from iPhone

What's SFO? ahh the airport, any good trips for you gents planned? - Mark Essel

wow thats cool so now i can embed a conversation Thanks a million! - Robert Higgins

Good Lord! This was news to you folks? FriendFeed much? - Christopher Harley

Yeah. FFundercats talked about this a long time ago. - Rochelle

Dave, and any permalink aficionados out there: individual *comments* are reference-able too, but there's no UI exposed, so I wrote a user script (greasemonkey/greasekit) to make it accessible: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... Cheers! - Micah Wittman

Wait until we talk about double clicking on hide! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Guys 2Click != DoubleClick instead 2Click=Click once + wait + Click the timestamp again, Result = new window with real time chat.... COOOOL - Amit Nangare

What Amit said. And one benefit of either the first or the second click is that it adds a comment window at the bottom. - Laura Norvig

wow i didn't know it was clickable .. - Onur Gündüz

Awesome, I always wondered how to get a permalink! Thanks Dave! - Mark Layton

Wow, I'm surprised people didn't know this. However, I'm kind of a friendfeed addict. It's a bit of a problem that so many awesome features of the UI are subtly "hidden". It keeps the interface clean, but it keeps newbies out of the loop and scratching their heads. - Laura Norvig

Wow. Thanks! How is that possible that so cool features are, not hidden, but, well... not made visible? As a wise guy said once : "a feature that is not accessible could as well not exist".(I know it sucks, but it sounds so much cooler when you say it in french) - Zackatoustra

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Putting knowledge into Twitter makes me sad because it is almost impossible to pull it out again in future.

June 27 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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No kidding :-) - Jason Cronkhite

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But it's real time! Once you've put the knowledge in there, it's already old. - Andy Bakun

It needs to be indexed and achieved - Chris Duffy

Ya, It's like the email of 2009 in that sense. - Malcolm Bastien

Andy: OK, quick, find me all the tweets that replied to my netbook question - Robert Scoble

Robert: that was sarcasm. - Andy Bakun

FriendFeed is infinitely better, and I want to thank you, Scoble, for introducing me to it. Unfortunately, I still find myself opening Facebook from time to time, as I cannot seem to integrate that into FriendFeed properly :( - Carlton Prest

I know that's impossible. Which is why people should use friendfeed instead. Friendfeed: where search actually works. - Andy Bakun

Carlton: that's a problem with facebook's platform. - Andy Bakun

Once FF integrates better with blogging systems - then we'll see a greater adoption. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Jonathan: yes. In FriendFeed knowledge is bundled together and can be found in the future. - Robert Scoble

Does anyone know if all your Tweets are archived forever? Do they ever expire? - Ideas At Random

Under what circumstanced is Twitter a good knowledge-base? - Amit Morson

Twitter archives your tweets: if you delete them, it takes like 3 weeks for them to disappear out of search. - Andy Bakun

but twitter do not need to offer this - thousands of apps already exist to pull out the knowledge you want it. e.g. find what links you posted -> http://tweetmeme.com/user... - Nick Halstead

Ideas: My early Tweets are not indexed. You can't find early Tweets from the Chinese earthquake, for instance. Are they saved? Probably, but since they aren't indexed in Twitter search it doesn't matter. - Robert Scoble

Nick: bullshit. Find everyone who responded to my Netbook question over on Twitter. Some responded without using my name. - Robert Scoble

What's interesting about this challenge is that since twitter's search ability is what's being questioned, there's really no way to verify that _everything_ could be found, because there's no external, non-twitter copy of all of twitter to see if you could find _everything_ about any given topic. You can't be sure that you found everything. - Andy Bakun

They'll be a search or other app capability that will make getting anything you want out easy in future. The whole world will be (increasingly) organized, and not just via Google. - Alex Hammer

Alex: that's not true. Each Tweet does not have enough metadata to make search easy. This is the #1 reason why I have been pushing FriendFeed so hard. - Robert Scoble

Alex: that's the future. What about now? - Andy Bakun

It's almost impossible to find a tweet. It's only 140 characters of info with no metadata. Each tweet is just not individual enough to find again later. Needles and haystacks... - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

Yep, metadata is the key, and 140 characters is not enough to even store unstructured metadata AND the content itself. - Andy Bakun

Take a gander at http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Mark

Once you shout out the window it is gone... unless you live in a canyon. - Art Witczak

http://twickie.pirillo.com/ - not impossible. - l0ckergn0me

Robert (from FF and copying Twitter): I have heard that Google is planning to launch a search engine for twitts. If so, that could be a very good solution to store, index and retrieve all the knowledge in Twitter. By the way, 140 characters are not that heavy! - Eduardo Loyola

@ Robert Scoble ...Have you tried searching your FF account for your early Tweets, like the Chinese earthquake? - Ideas At Random

Ideas: I have and it is better than Twitter but not perfect. - Robert Scoble

You mean "impossible" as in the rich API with which tons of developers have found tons of ways to interact with Twitter? I'm no dev, but it sounds like it's one of the most accessible services yet. - David Chartier

David: twitter's API can't add the metadata that will make search good. - Robert Scoble

Yeah, Robert is right there. The API just doesn't make search any better. Everything is just too much of the same. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

If you send all your tweets to FriendFeed they are much easier to search and find later. Or use LoudTwitter < http://loudtwitter.com > you can backup your tweets to your blog and archive them. - Chris Loft

Good point. That's why I archive my tweets. It ain't pretty, but it works: http://davestweets.tumblr.com/ - DaveDelaney.ME

I still have a lot of followers on twitter that are not on FF. I see that changing fast, but I have no desire to set up a bunch of "fake" accounts. I wish I could just view twitter users in FF. The way that Steve Rubel uses Gmail, is changing my workflow for sure however... - Robert from email

Those fake accounts sure are a pain in the arse to set up. - Mark

I realized the difference when I googled something and found the answer in a friendfeed thread, not going to get that via twitter. - BCK

Agreed, thats all I will say - polou/indigo_bow

Take heart Mr. Scoble, the next big Twitter is looming nearby, the developers are coding it as we speak..This is the most amazing time for technology, as long as the 'bean-counters' don't kill the innovation.. Respectfully, Nicholas Chase - Nicholas Chase

Workaround for archiving my Twitter conversations. I setup a rss feed based on a search results with my username.(ie http://search.twitter.com/search...) and have the feed in Google Reader. Now I can quickly search my old tweets. Yes, I know it doesn't help find other people's tweets or info. But, with using my Twitter username as the search word, I archive @replies, and any mentions. I started this with Google Reader in January and have access to every tweet I sent and received since then. - Brian

That is real time, man. Why we don't understand: it is not there if it is not happening in real time. - Nitin Nanivadekar

As we are moving towards a real time stream of information, we fail to conserve the value. Twitter Search lists the latest messages on your query and therefore any tweet older than a couple minutes is lost. I would love a time line of the election in Iran from the beginning with coverage of the main events within the election, the most important messages and the leading users. Than, add photo and video footage and Twitter would have real time coverage of events. - Thomas R. Stegelmann

Whatever actual knowledge Twitter has to offer is generated via network effects -it is collective, not Scoble- who along with 'us,' contibute time, presence and input which is sometimes smart + insightful, sometimes off-the-cuff, sometimes emotional + sensational, sometimes (yes, even) frivolous... all of which generates a certain kind of intelligence. And yes, given a specific context, this might pass for knowledge. - Brad Kligerman

I have my twitter home feed imported here as an imaginary friend, just to make searching it easier, so I can restrict the search to my home feed instead of the entire twitterverse. - April Russo (app103)

That's why everyone should pipe their tweets into FriendFeed, even Technosailor Aaron Brazell. All of them are retained, and they're easily searchable. - Hutch Carpenter

What should be added in a search engine to make it more viable? - James Stratford

Maybe you need to stop thinking of Twitter as something you 'put things in' that you later need to 'take out'. If Twitter is not a type of container, what else could it be? I think Twitter is a thought process, a community thought process. It helps you think, it helps you generate new ideas from it's own content. You don't need to take things out, you just need to add your thoughts to it. - Joolio

Robert are you aware of Tweetree? It is like Twitter in HD. http://tweetree.com/garinki... It does a much better job tracking Twitter replies and it will insert videos, entire blog posts, and even the entire ff thread in real-time from any tweets that are made via ff. - Garin Kilpatrick

Garin: Thanks for the link. Great site! Hadn't heard of tweetree before. - Mike Bracco

Mike: You're welcome! Glad you like it :) - Garin Kilpatrick

You should try out http://www.tweets2mail.com then you can search directly from within gmail :) - NerdyHearn

This is the reason why I have Louttwitetr blog all my daily tweets in a blog dedicated to this ;) Same for delicvious links to also share the link-love - oliver gassner

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